Come for the politics, stay for the snark.

Republicans: The threats are dire, but my tickets are non-refundable!

Come on, man.

the 10% who apparently lack object permanence

Mediocre white men think RFK Jr’s pathetic midlife crisis is inspirational. The bar is set so low for them, it’s subterranean.

We’re watching the self-immolation of the leading world power on a level unprecedented in human history.

They were going to turn on one another at some point. It was inevitable.

A thin legal pretext to veneer over their personal religious and political desires.

Today’s gop: why go just far enough when too far is right there?

An almost top 10,000 blog!

Also, are you sure you want people to rate your comments?

Is it irresponsible to speculate? It is irresponsible not to.

Prediction: the gop will rethink its strategy of boycotting future committees.

How stupid are these people?

The unpunished coup was a training exercise.

It is not hopeless, and we are not helpless.

JFC, are there no editors left at that goddamn rag?

The arc of history bends toward the same old fuckery.

Stamping your little feets and demanding that they see how important you are? Not working anymore.

White supremacy is terrorism.

Today in our ongoing national embarrassment…

So many bastards, so little time.

Bad people in a position to do bad things will do bad things because they are bad people. End of story.

🎶 Those boots were made for mockin’ 🎵

I’d hate to be the candidate who lost to this guy.

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Thursday Morning Open Thread 21

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Just in case anyone missed it:

What time is the debate?
The debate will start at 9 p.m. ET Thursday. It’s being moderated by CNN’s Jake Tapper and Dana Bash.

What channel is the debate on?
CNN is carrying the debate live on its broadcast network, as well as on CNN International, CNN en Español and CNN Max. Viewers can also stream it without a log in on CNN’s website. Several networks have also agreed to carry the event live.

Where is the debate?
The setting for the first general election debate is CNN’s studios in Atlanta. Unlike the Republican primary debates, no audience will be present…

No big, just reporting on what advisers say the expectations for each candidate should be, which of course we will take as gospel and repeat.

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— The Fig Economy (@figgityfigs.bsky.social) Jun 24, 2024 at 2:55 PM


I’d bet some of Trump’s younger, ‘daring’ handlers (Charlie Kirk, for instance) could’ve suggested this, but I don’t think the Sundowning Felon is capable of putting any new ‘zingers’ together…


Ligma / BOFA jokes

‘Hawk tuah’

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128Comments

  1. 1.

    Baud

    whom he refers to as a “sick fuck” in private and believes is a stain on the White House

    This yellow dog would love to hear that said publicly tonight, but I can’t in good conscience recommend it.

    Also, too, don’t listen to Twitter.

    (And especially not to X.)

  5. 5.

    comrade scotts agenda of rage

    @WereBear:

    I’m sure if we searched hard enough, we’d see those exact same words said by somebody here over the years.

  6. 6.

    different-church-lady

    Another way of putting that double-standard in the WaPo tweet: Biden has to (yet again) prove who he is, while Trump has to disguise who he is.

  8. 8.

    Bruce K in ATH-GR

    @Baud: And the audience. Biden’s got the tougher task tonight, given that he’s trying to reach a lot of people, although I’m hopeful that he can, in passing, cause his opponent to go into catastrophic cerebral meltdown.

  9. 9.

    TBone

    One of my favorite replies is “nunya.” Shorthand for “none of yer gatdamn business.”

    Can be used with regard to all Hunter Biden jabs.

  10. 10.

    comrade scotts agenda of rage

    @Bruce K in ATH-GR:

    …cause his opponent to go into catastrophic cerebral meltdown.

    How would we know?  That’s a permanent state of being for him.

  13. 13.

    TBone

    @Suzanne: there are explanatory links provided in the post. At the end.

    If you are squeamish, proceed with caution for the hawk lady.

    ETA her partner is doing it wrong 😆

  14. 14.

    O. Felix Culpa

    @comrade scotts agenda of rage:

    Beg to differ, slightly. He can “behave” when he thinks it’s to his advantage. Narcissists can act normal for a time, but they can’t sustain it. Where we agree is that faking good behavior is getter harder for him as his mental competence deteriorates. The guardrails are crumbling/have crumbled.

  16. 16.

    Butch

    I could have gone my whole life not knowing or caring about ligma and hawk tua.  P.S. I have no intention whatsoever of watching the debate.

    To T Bone- I’ve been using nunya for years, especially when I get hostile questions about my tattoos.

  17. 17.

    Fester Addams

    @Suzanne:

    Ligma, BOFA, and hawk thua

    I read the explanation.  Not so much a TIL as TIWIHL–today I wish i hadn’t learned.

  19. 19.

    NotMax

    FYI.

    Record snowfall in recent years has not been enough to offset long-term drying conditions and increasing groundwater demands in the U.S. Southwest, according to a new analysis of NASA satellite data.

    Declining water levels in the Great Salt Lake and Lake Mead have been testaments to a megadrought afflicting western North America since 2000. But surface water only accounts for a fraction of the Great Basin watershed, which covers most of Nevada and large portions of California, Utah, and Oregon. Far more of the region’s water is underground. That has historically made it difficult to track the impact of droughts on the overall water content of the Great Basin.

    A new look at 20 years of data from the GRACE (Gravity Recovery and Climate Experiment) and GRACE-FO satellites shows that the decline in groundwater in the Great Basin far exceeds stark surface water losses.… Source

  21. 21.

    Princess

    CBC (Canada) did an interview last night with a Hillary operative about the debate. The interviewer asked: But what is a Biden going to do if Trump comes out there and stays on message, hits inflation and the border, all his most popular issues? The interviewee laughed at her and said: you mean if Trump behaves in a way he has never ever behaved before? She granted him the point.

    But it does make me think about what I said in the last AL post about dementia and repetition. If we repeat ourselves, we’re getting a bit flakey and time to take the keys away. When politicians repeat themselves, they’re “staying on message” and “hammering their point home”.

  22. 22.

    TBone

    @Princess: I am doubtful about his ability to stay “on message” under duress.  His rage will derail him, unless he’s sedated.

  23. 23.

    O. Felix Culpa

    FYI, Wonkette will be live-blogging the debate. Many other sites will be too, of course.

  26. 26.

    comrade scotts agenda of rage

    @O. Felix Culpa:

    That’ll be the only way I might even marginally follow it, purely from a live-blog.  Otherwise, it’ll be recounts tomorrow morning.

    I just hope that Bash & Tapper don’t screw up their part in some way.  I also believe in unicorns.

  31. 31.

    narya

    Given that the mics will be muted, I’d just ignore TCFG and focus on answering the moderators’ questions. TCFG became a problem because he kept interrupting and distracting; this is an opportunity for Joe to make his case to the voting public without that.

  34. 34.

    JWR

    Unless my time zones are as bonkers as they usually are, we’ve got 45 minutes until a few more supremely unjust opinions come out. Gee, I can’t wait. :(

  35. 35.

    Geminid

    The Republican National Congressional Committee has announced advertising purchases for this election spread across 22 districts and 27 media markets. From Politico Playbook:

       More than a quarter of the spending will be marshalled against the five Democrats in districts that then-President Trump won in 2020: Reps. Jared Golden in Maine, Marie Gluesenkamp Perez in Washington state, Mary Peltola in Alaska, Marcy Kaptur in Ohio, and Matt Cartwright in Pennsylvania.

    The NRCC is also reserving ad time aimed at Reps. Emilia Sykes (OH). Dan Davis (NC), Yadina Caravel (CO), and Susan Wild (PA). Targets also include open seats currently held by two Michigan Democrats. That would be Elissa Slotkin, who is running for Senate, and Dan Kikdee who is retiring.

    There is $6 million worth of advertising time reserved in the Portland, Oregon market that can be used either to defend freshman  Oregon Representative Lori Chavez-DeRemer or attack Rep. Gluesenkamp Perez, whose Washington district lies across the Columbia River from Portland.

    Freshman Gabe Vasquez (NM) is a target, as is Jahanna Hayes (CT), who is seeking a 4th term. And the NRCC is gonna try to save Don Bacon (NE). His Omaha-based district voted for Biden in 2020.

  37. 37.

    Kay

    “When he was in the White House, he so regularly gamed media outlets into lauding his temporarily subdued ‘tone’ or fleeting ‘presidential’ behavior here and there, that he would literally laugh about it with aides.”

    Ooof. So much for our “tough” reporters.

    Trump’s superpower is managing media. This relationship is reciprocal – they stroke him, he makes them money, on both a corporate (company) basis and an individual basis. Trump has made certain media people multimillionaires. It’s no more complicated than that and it’s been going on for 50 years. They’re the only people who have benefited from this.

  38. 38.

    Kay

    @Geminid:

    They may as well burn the money they spend against Kaptur. She’s going to win. She’s an outlier in Ohio, like Sherrod Brown. They’re their own brand. I think she wants to retire but won’t because she’s the only person who can hold that seat.

  40. 40.

    JWR

    @narya:

    Given that the mics will be muted,

    Once Trump’s 2 minutes are up and his mic cut, will his continued blood spattered ravings bleed through on Biden’s side? (Directional mics can only do so much.) Maybe Biden’s people should’ve pushed for isolation booths instead?

  41. 41.

    Kosh III

    We may watch the debate.  Or The Bear.

    I want Biden just once to not be polite and to call the Pussy-grabber a lying asshole who should STFU.  He’ll have plenty of opportunities since everything the Felon says are lies.
    But I’ll settle for the Rapist melting down in a hate-filled rant.

  42. 42.

    comrade scotts agenda of rage

    @Kay:

    They’re their own brand.

    I’m wondering, okay really hoping, that that applies to Peltola in AK.

  43. 43.

    Kay

    @Geminid:

    She should win too. She’s smart as hell, hard working, and absolutely clean. Never a whiff of scandal. Our district will never do better – she’s top ten per cent. She has a huge extended family though (she herself is single with no children) and I bet she would like to retire. She’s sticking it out for us :)

  45. 45.

    smith

    @JWR: will his continued blood spattered ravings bleed through on Biden’s side?

    I saw today that the podia will be only 8 feet apart, so absolutely they will bleed through.

  46. 46.

    Kay

    @comrade scotts agenda of rage:

    She could be – I think it takes winning over some years to develop that though. You see people fail at it too – Sinema and Manchin I think tried that and failed. It has to be an appealing brand and it;s based on merit – Kaptur and Brown deliver for the state.  Manchin and Sinema were missing the “appealing” and “hard working” parts. The only people that liked them were political media.

  47. 47.

    schrodingers_cat

    @Kay: They are not tough reporters. Tough reporters are the ones like my Twitter mutual Mayank Saxena who died doing grassroots journalism giving up a cushy media gig.

    He is not alone. Nikhil Wagle, Ravish Kumar and others  left cushy well paid media jobs but did not give up speaking truth to power. Modi government has put people in jail without trial for years. So speaking up carries a significant risk.

  48. 48.

    TBone

    @narya: depending on the questions.  Also, I never underestimate Dotard’s ability to distract.

    I wonder whether he’ll be performing for the cult or whether he’ll try to “behave” for a larger audience.  I have my doubts about his ability to behave.

  50. 50.

    MattF

    I’m wary of giving Trump a stage, given that he’s such a sick fuck. A meltdown would be nice, though. But we shall see…

  53. 53.

    comrade scotts agenda of rage

    @OzarkHillbilly:

    If you’re gonna believe in unicorns you might as well go all the way and believe in rainbow farting, gold shitting unicorns.

    My rigid belief system once saw this random photo on the internet which proved to me the origin of rainbows and it’s not unicorns:
    https://flic.kr/p/2pZPFpd
    Now, I’m willing to entertain a discussion about gold shitting unicorns because why not?

  59. 59.

    Geminid

    @Kay: Michigan Democrats are a little concerned that Dan Kildee’s 8th CD could be like Rep. Kaptur’s Ohio district. Kildee has represented the Saginaw-based 8th CD for 10 terms. He won reelection by 10 points in 2022, but it’s not nearly a D+10 district. Cook’s Political Report ranks the Michigan 8th as the nation’s median Congressional district, with 217 others more Republican, and 217 more Democratic. Democrats will have to fight hard to win it with a newcomer.

  60. 60.

    Kay

    @schrodingers_cat:

    I so admire that journalism. But this junk? the stuff that we get? It seems a waste of the 1st amendment.

    I (actually) love newspapers. I read mostly non fiction and I prefer reading to any other method of information gathering. But I feel ripped off when I pay for them. I don’t think they add enough value to justify payment at this point.

    The horrible reporter who “covered” Hillary Clinton in 2016 has an HBO comedy series on political reporting- that’s all you need to know about incentives in that industry. She was rewarded for that garbage work. She’s a multi millionaire now. Oh, well. I’m glad someone made out on that shitshow. Her readers sure didn’t.

  62. 62.

    Baud

    @Kay:

    I used to love reading the paper too, but I’ve been at this point

    I don’t think they add enough value to justify payment at this point.

     
    for a long while now.

  64. 64.

    narya

    @JWR: @smith: Given that we, on this almost-top-10,000 blog, have been able to come up with this scenario, I’d be shocked if Joe’s team hasn’t gamed this out and practiced it. I still think that ignoring that distraction is the way to go–the noise will hurt TCFG more, if Joe can ignore it.

  65. 65.

    TBone

    David Corn

    Like most bullies, Trump cannot bear humiliation. His whole act is an act. He pretends to be strong and the best in everything—with the “best words” that come from a “very, very large brain.” But his malignant narcissism is clearly interlaced with deep insecurity. Real stable geniuses don’t have to brag about being stable geniuses. Trump might best be attacked not with frontal assaults about his lies, shortcomings, and misdeeds but with mockery. One goal Biden ought to have during the debate and afterward is to provoke Trump into the most erratic Trumpish behavior so voters are reminded of the perils of placing this guy in charge again. Ridicule can be quite useful in this regard.

    The point of a presidential debate is not to score debate points but to bolster a narrative and message.

    How did Reagan respond to Carter’s jab? He cocked his head and said, “There you go again.” He was implying that Carter was lying. And the media and the political world gobbled this up, thinking it was just the best damn retort ever uttered. It was of no concern that Reagan lied when he said that he hadn’t opposed the principle behind Medicare. His reply was viewed and portrayed as a slam-dunk put-down of Carter. The Democratic incumbent had Reagan dead to rights. That didn’t matter.

    https://link.motherjones.com/public/35799406

  66. 66.

    Baud

    @schrodingers_cat:

    I haven’t paid attention to primaries much. There was a flurry of news around Bowman, so I learned some things.  The Dem voters in those districts can make their own decisions, and I’ll respect it.

  67. 67.

    DFH

    Every morning I click the stories (not just here) and I am so sick of that fucker. May he have a diaper incident tonight.

  70. 70.

    Kay

    @Geminid:

    Michigan Democrats did a smart thing with their majority though- they made voting easier. They had the highest youth turnout in the country in ’22. Now, some of that is because they collect more info than other states – MSU has a special role in tracking youth voting in the state so they have real numbers, but still.

    I think they had a majority of one (1) :)

  71. 71.

    schrodingers_cat

    @Kay: Thanks. The last report Mayank did was with the help of cell phone flashlight in Modi’s constituency of Varanasi bringing the plight of the forgotten people of Varanasi who lost their livelihoods because of “beautification” and “development” to light.

  76. 76.

    catclub

    @TBone: whether he’ll try to “behave” for a larger audience. I have my doubts about his ability to behave.

    This has got to be what his advisers want. Subdued to the point of boring. We shall see.

  81. 81.

    Kay

    @OzarkHillbilly:

    The eagle (adorable baby chick) has landed. The Denmark crowd just arrived at O’Hare.

    My daughter is law is a tightwad, like all the women in the family, and she handles the money. So my son found out they were on a flight to the US with A CONNECTION, which he hates very much. I completely understand – she said “it was half the cost of direct!” So he was moping around Philadelphia for two hours. It won’t kill him. Big baby.

  85. 85.

    UncleEbeneezer

    @zhena gogolia: I saw a tweet yesterday that showed Bowman down 17 points back in March, well before AIPAC got involved.  But I’m not sure where or if it was legit (only saw it one place which makes me a bit skeptical).  Also: the consensus seems to be that there were several other factors that turned voters against Bowman, but his extremism and bone-headed statements about Israel probably didn’t help.  Plus, Lattimer is a solid and well-liked, Dem politician.

  88. 88.

    Kirk

    @Kay: There are trips for which I actually seek connections. The chance to stretch my legs and use a bathroom that don’t require acrobatics and tightrope walking due to tight seating, narrow aisles and the tiny cubicles found on an airplane? After 3-4 hours that’s a pure win.

  89. 89.

    UncleEbeneezer

    I don’t plan to watch but I think all Biden really has to do is list all his achievements and paint Trump as a loser/criminal.  Branding him a loser always gets him off script and into obviously unhinged/incoherent territory.

  90. 90.

    OzarkHillbilly

    A Neanderthal child with Down’s syndrome survived until at least the age of six, according to a new study whose findings hint at compassionate caregiving among the extinct, archaic human species.

    Recent examination of a human fossil unearthed at the Cova Negra archaeological site in the Spanish province of Valencia found traits in the inner-ear anatomy which indicated Down syndrome, in the earliest-known evidence of the genetic condition.

    The fossil, which preserves the complete inner-ear anatomy, was excavated in 1989 but its significance was not recognised until recently. It is a fragment of one of the two temporal bones – the right one – that help form the sides and base of the skull, protecting the brain and surrounding the ear canal.
    ……………………………
    “The pathology which this individual suffered resulted in highly disabling symptoms, including, at the very least, complete deafness, severe vertigo attacks and an inability to maintain balance,” said Mercedes Conde-Valverde, a palaeoanthropologist at the University of Alcalá in Spain, lead author of the study, published in the journal Science Advances.

    “Given these symptoms, it is highly unlikely that the mother alone could have provided all the necessary care while also attending to her own needs. Therefore, for Tina to have survived for at least six years, the group must have continuously assisted the mother, either by relieving her in the care of the child, helping with her daily tasks, or both,” Conde-Valverde added.

    Huh. Whod’a thunk it? Neanderthals were DEMs.

  91. 91.

    strange visitor (from another planet)

    @zhena gogolia: pretty sure cacti doesn’t live here in nyc, nor does he know what he’s TALKING about. bowman is a shitty pol who was bombing before AIPAC got involved.

     

    eta-i KEEP tryin to tell you guys that nyc is not REMOTELY the way you THINK it is, keeps falling on DEAF ears.

  94. 94.

    Juju.

    @Princess: My mother has advanced dementia. Trust me when I tell you that there is a huge difference between repeating yourself to stay on message, and repeating yourself because you don’t remember what you just said in the first place. I actually had a bit of difficulty admitting that my mother had dementia because I couldn’t bring myself to believe she actually did not remember what she had just said or asked.  Also, dementia sucks.

  95. 95.

    kindness

    I don’t think I’ll watch the debate in real time.  I will see the Cliff Notes replays afterwards though.  Watching Trump lie and be his usual asshole self for an hour isn’t good for my blood pressure.

  98. 98.

    strange visitor (from another planet)

    @UncleEbeneezer: good point.

    just wanted to thank you for fighting the good fight and trying to keep the crowd here from forgetting that an entity called “hamas” exists.

  100. 100.

    UncleEbeneezer

    @kindness: I’ve studiously avoided hearing/watching Trump from the beginning.  Probably have only absorbed 30 minutes of him since he began his run for office.  I can read about the shitty stuff he says and it’s much better for my sanity.  Hell, I even tapped out of the Sarah Cooper videos after about two minutes (also, they just weren’t that funny to me).  As I told my wife last night: I can always go back and listen to/laugh at this asshole after he’s dead.  Until then, no thanks.

  102. 102.

    Trivia Man

    To repeat my earlier comment: I like the idea of taking advantage of his possible hyper vigilance which is often a side effect of stimulants. Loud enough for him to hear, someone backstage whispering “trump is a loser “ over and over or some other very short phrase that will trigger him. “Small hands” or “his dad hated him”.

    Maybe a sound – keep opening a bottle of pop so he pavlovs a craving for diet coke. Or handcuffs clicking shut. Any other sounds to trigger him?

  103. 103.

    rikyrah

    @Kay:

     

    They like being stenographers. You don’t have to do your job. And, then, you don’t do your job – in real time- but save all this information that could have been useful for the American public – as it happened- so that you can put it in a muthaphuckin’ book.

     

    Will say it again – that’s why the resent the competence of the Biden Administration . They actually have to work. and, you can’t save anything for books.

  104. 104.

    rikyrah

    @schrodingers_cat:

    When 20% of your district is Jewish….and, you do what he did…

    He lost the endorsement of J Street.

     

    He was also going up against a known entity who is fabulous at retail politics.

    You can yell AIPAC until the cows come home.

    But, when you love by the margins he did…..that ain’t AIPAC.

  106. 106.

    rikyrah

    @schrodingers_cat:

     

    Candidly Tiff (@tify330) posted at 5:51 AM on Wed, Jun 26, 2024:
    One thing Leftists will always do is repeat their BS. In 2021 they ran the same tired ass playbook on Shontel Brown as they did on Latimer. Didn’t work!

    -Labeled both as “centrist”
    -Focused on $ from a few GOP Donors
    -Smeared both
    -“Evil Money” “Dark Money” is why they lost https://t.co/IEG0WCYTJT
    (https://x.com/tify330/status/1805916701432721717?t=HI3fdWBgAkAYGn5Sjja0ug&s=03)

  107. 107.

    rikyrah

    @schrodingers_cat:

     

    The Biden Accomplishments Guy (@What46HasDone) posted at 2:55 AM on Wed, Jun 26, 2024:
    Since I’m giving out a lot of free advice tonight, here’s another: Voters don’t take over the top proclamations seriously. Latimer has been an elected Dem for 35 years, and essentially served as 90% of the district’s mayor for the last 5. Trying to paint him as a Republican plant
    (https://x.com/What46HasDone/status/1805872468491469275?t=FIYZ5C24FzizZPvkTP4RzA&s=03)

  109. 109.

    rikyrah

    @schrodingers_cat:

     

    Booker G. Washington (@BookerGWash) posted at 8:39 AM on Wed, Jun 26, 2024:
    Why are y’all coddling so-called “progressives” about that Bowman loss?

    They’ve been “uncommitted,” threatening “to teach Democrats a lesson,” insulting literally everyone who isn’t in lockstep with them ideologically, and now saying they won’t vote.

    Fuck them.
    (https://x.com/BookerGWash/status/1805958986623050021?t=46i9KSAPnJJHGNsixkXTHg&s=03)

  110. 110.

    rikyrah

    @schrodingers_cat:

     

    Ragnarok Lobster  (@eclecticbrotha) posted at 2:09 AM on Wed, Jun 26, 2024:
    I like how Cosplay Socialists are blaming Jamaal Bowman’s loss on AIPAC: it means they won’t do the work of examining how terrible a candidate Bowman actually was (his toxic concession speech is a huge tell) so they’ll probably keep fielding equally bad candidates in the future.
    (https://x.com/eclecticbrotha/status/1805861021157929268?t=QWYWszG4UxoFLeGuPOMITw&s=03)

  112. 112.

    UncleEbeneezer

    @strange visitor (from another planet): You’re welcome.  They are one of two major players in the conflict.  Pretending like they are somehow irrelevant is dishonest, unhelpful and extremely bad-faith.  It’s every bit as bullshit as trying to erase the horrible acts by Netanyahu.

  113. 113.

    Ceci n est pas mon nym

    Thanks for the explanatory links at the bottom. I would not have guessed any of those. The last one was kind of an obvious onomatopoeia, but I would not have guessed the circumstances, and now that I know it, all three of them sound like the kind of stuff that was funny in middle school.

    (In my actual middle school 55ish years ago, a similar joke going around involved the phrase “rubber balls and liquor”)

    /curmudgeon

  114. 114.

    Ceci n est pas mon nym

    We have several offers for debate chat parties via newsletters / substacks my wife subscribes to. One is the Borowitz Report, another is Robert Hubbell. I recommend regular consumption of both for maintaining more or less sanity.

    Don’t remember the third, have to check the links she sent me.

    Edit: The other one is The Big Picture substack, which I think is George Takei.

    I’m tempted, but I don’t want to have to listen to that voice for 90 minutes. Not even for 90 seconds. So I’m kind of torn.

  115. 115.

    strange visitor (from another planet)

    @rikyrah: yah. so where’s the ad pointing out that re-electing clownigula will get us the fascist gop’s boot on our face for the duration of their reich?

  116. 116.

    Juju.

    @Geminid: Actually it’s Don Davis and he is my representative. He’s took over for G. K. Butterfield and he is a good  successor to Butterfield.  He votes with the republicans more than I would like, but I understand why he does. The district has been redrawn, and the race might be closer, but the woman he’s running against, Laurie Buckhout looks better on paper than she is in person. She’s one of those border freaks and there are a lot of undocumented and documented workers that even this redrawn district can’t function well without.  In person she comes off as an angry anti immigrant crackpot, and those people scare her.  I don’t think it will help that she wants to ban all abortions.  According to what I’ve read, the redrawn district has moved from +17 D to + 3D.

  117. 117.

    NotMax

    @Kosh III

    Or The Bear

    Like kitchencentric dramas? Got Netflix? The BBC’s Boiling Point ticks off all the boxes with flair. Two thumbs way up.

    (Not to be in any way confused with the similarly titled Gordon Ramsay vehicle.)

  118. 118.

    Soprano2

    @Juju.:  Trust me when I tell you that there is a huge difference between repeating yourself to stay on message, and repeating yourself because you don’t remember what you just said in the first place.

    QFT. I posted about this in the overnight thread, that there is no way there are drugs that help cognition because if there were the drug companies would be minting money selling them, and they wouldn’t be a secret. There are drugs that can slow it down for people who have certain types of dementia, but they don’t restore what’s already been lost, and they don’t prevent future losses or hype people up to have more cognitive powers.

  119. 119.

    comrade scotts agenda of rage

    @strange visitor (from another planet):

    bowman is a shitty pol who was bombing before AIPAC got involved.

    Yup.  He was down 17% before AIPAC got involved and lost by 17%.  And had no union support which is amazingly competent for a NY Dem. /s

    And as mentioned elsewhere, the “concession” speech was a piece of work, right out of Katie Porter’s playbook.

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    Juju.

    @Soprano2:  My brother who is a physician, and I had a discussion during his most recent visit, about the drugs used for dementia. He said the older drugs had a 0-2% chance of helping, and the newer drugs probably have a 5-10% chance of helping. By helping, he meant keeping the person with dementia at the cognitive functioning level where they are when the person starts taking the drug. One thing he mentioned that really surprised me is that the so called breakthrough drugs that are supposed to diminish or remove the amyloid plaques of Alzheimer’s don’t seem to help because removing the amyloid plaques doesn’t seem to improve cognition.
    I wish more people would realize that Alzheimer’s is a form of dementia, but not all dementias are Alzheimer’s.

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    MinuteMan

    @Baud:  (your yellow dog democrat link)

    Looks like the term applied to Southern Democrats; most of those are now yellow dog GOPers (Magats, probably).

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    strange visitor (from another planet)

    @Soprano2:  yah, israel has gone overboard. hamas has not budged from their “kill all the jews” posture.

    as hamas is an irregular, non-uniformed, guerilla force that can only  function with cooperation from the populace in which they hide, how exactly do you know which palestinians are hamas?

    hamas doesn’t work without the tacit support from the people of gaza. pretty sure most of the citizens of gaza know where the tunnels and bunkers are because those tunnels and bunkers are built under their HOMES.

    but that’s NOT the point- the IDF isn’t engaging in a counter-insurgency conflict, they’re just levelling the place, lashing out like a wounded animal bc the leadership at the head is ABSENT and they’ve lost control of the units on the ground.

    netanyahu is swinging blindly and promoting group punishment to save what little face he could due to his unmitigated failure and put off his prosecution.

    a COMPETENT leader would’ve taken biden’s suggestion and handled the oct 7 hostage situation with RESTRAINT, treating it like a criminal matter and making the RESCUE of the HOSTAGES the PRIORITY.

    smashing hamas could’ve come later, with targeted assassinations instead of 2000lb pound bombs.

    the HOSTAGES are what’s important. netanyahu can’t even be bothered to make a pretense that he cares one whit about their welfare.

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    Princess

    @Juju.: Oh, believe me, I know. And dementia sucks, yes. But what you say here — “I actually had a bit of difficulty admitting that my mother had dementia because I couldn’t bring myself to believe she actually did not remember what she had just said or asked. ” — is what his supporters will say if he does repeat himself because of dementia. Personally, despite the confidence of many here I’m on the fence about that. With your experience, what do you think?

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    artem1s

    @catclub: ​

    Subdued to the point of boring. We shall see.

    This is his chance to ‘testify’ that he never got at the trial. No way in hell will he be able to resist the temptation. All Biden needs to do is open the door by mentioning the convictions.

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