Come for the politics, stay for the snark.

Everything is totally normal and fine!!!

Republicans do not trust women.

Tide comes in. Tide goes out. You can’t explain that.

The “burn-it-down” people are good with that until they become part of the kindling.

One lie, alone, tears the fabric of reality.

Dumb motherfuckers cannot understand a consequence that most 4 year olds have fully sorted out.

“In this country American means white. everybody else has to hyphenate.”

People really shouldn’t expect the government to help after they watched the GOP drown it in a bathtub.

Historically it was a little unusual for the president to be an incoherent babbling moron.

“Just close your eyes and kiss the girl and go where the tilt-a-whirl takes you.” ~OzarkHillbilly

If you thought you’d already seen people saying the stupidest things possible on the internet, prepare yourselves.

With all due respect and assumptions of good faith, please fuck off into the sun.

People identifying as christian while ignoring christ and his teachings is a strange thing indeed.

Whoever he was, that guy was nuts.

When you’re a Republican, they let you do it.

If you’re gonna whine, it’s time to resign!

If you don’t believe freedom is for everybody, then the thing you love isn’t freedom, it is privilege.

They were going to turn on one another at some point. It was inevitable.

Since we are repeating ourselves, let me just say fuck that.

I would try pessimism, but it probably wouldn’t work.

If you voted for Trump, you don’t get to speak about ethics, morals, or rule of law.

Republicans firmly believe having an abortion is a very personal, very private decision between a woman and J.D. Vance.

When I decide to be condescending, you won’t have to dream up a fantasy about it.

These are not very smart people, and things got out of hand.

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A professional political team would’ve kept Project 2025 under wraps, but the Heritage Foundation just could not wait…

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  1. 1.

    Jay

    The New Republic
    @newrepublic
    Jul 7
    We chose the cover image, based on a well-known 1932 Hitler campaign poster, for a precise reason: that anyone transported back to 1932 Germany could very, very easily have explained away Herr Hitler’s excesses and been persuaded that his critics were going overboard. After all, he spent 1932 campaigning, negotiating, doing interviews—being a mostly normal politician. But he and his people vowed all along that they would use the tools of democracy to destroy it, and it was only after he was given power that Germany saw his movement’s full face.

    Today, we at The New Republic think we can spend this election year in one of two ways. We can spend it debating whether Trump meets the nine or 17 points that define fascism. Or we can spend it saying, “He’s damn close enough, and we’d better fight.”

    We unreservedly choose the latter course. And so we have assembled herein some of our leading intellectual historians of fascism; a member of the fourth estate who learned firsthand what the Trump lash feels like; a leading expert on civil-military relations; a great Guatemalan American novelist with a deep understanding of immigrants’ lives; one of our most incisive cultural critics; and a man with all-too-real experience in living under a notorious authoritarian regime. The scenarios they describe are certainly grim. We dare you to say, after reading these pieces, that they are impossible.

    nitter.poast.org/newrepublic/status/1810009748697448541#m

  3. 3.

    SiubhanDuinne

    I’m so glad Project 2025 and Agenda 47 are getting oxygen. One of the best things we can do every day for the next four months is to shout this to the sky. Let everyone with ears and eyes know what TCFFG and his minions handlers have planned for us. And lose no opportunity to showcase TCFFG’s outright blatant lies about “knowing nothing about it.”

    Poor little ignorant fucker.

  8. 8.

    Mike in NC

    Fat Bastard sez he never met neo-Nazi Steve Bannon or this asshole Kevin Roberts (“we’re taking our country back” — where did we hear that before?), but maybe one of them brought him coffee that one time.

  9. 9.

    YY_Sima Qian

    Yes! Make the election about Trump’s incompetence & corruption, the retrograde values/worldview of those in his orbit (or set to maneuver into his Administration & will manipulate him to advance their own aims), & the malevolence of both. Not about Biden’s age, & only secondarily about Biden’s record (at least outside of the core Dem constituencies). Anti-Trump & anti-Fascism is the largest coalition today in the US, & perhaps the cause w/ the most committed adherents. Get people out to vote against Trump & the Rs.

  10. 10.

    SiubhanDuinne

    @Jackie:

    These people are scary af. I mean, there’s “saying the quiet parts out loud,” and then there’s “shouting it to the rooftops.”

    I dunno, are we better off hearing them put it all out there? It’s horrifying, but probably it’s healthier to expose the hatefulness for what it is.

    EDIT: The ad itself is great.

  11. 11.

    Scout211

    I posted this in an earlier thread about Project 2025.

    When Trump denies he knows anything about Project 2025, it’s ridiculous. But when Stephen Miller denies he is involved in 2025, it means that Project 2025 is hurting the Trump campaign.

    So let’s keep spreading the word!

    Former Trump advisor Stephen Miller claimed he has “never been involved with Project 2025” in a post on X on Saturday, however, a video on the Project 2025 YouTube channel says otherwise. Following in former President Donald Trump’s footsteps, Miller tried to deny he has had any involvement with the plan, that has been described as, “ridiculous and abysmal,” by his former boss. Unfortunately for Miller, he appears in a video on the Project 2025 website entitled “Project 2025 Presidential Administration Academy.” Miller addressed the Biden-Harris campaign X account which shared a screengrab of Miller in the video, telling followers on X “I know you’re upset because your candidate has soft pudding for brains, but that’s not a recruitment ad. A while back I made a video for students on how to build skills. I have never been involved with Project 2025, not one word. But keep hoaxing, losers. Hoaxes are all you have.” Miller isn’t the only Trump administration official linked to Project 2025. Former Trump assistant Spencer Chretien, former Trump Office of Personnel Management Chief of Staff Paul Dans and Trump advisor Troup Hemenway appear in the video and are listed on the Project 2025 website as creators of the plan. Trump campaign press secretary Karoline Leavitt also appears in the video right after Miller.

    And when his response to questions includes a Biden insult worthy of a 10 year old bully, you know he is worried.

  16. 16.

    BR

    @dm: ​
    Yeah, I saw that the other day on Mastodon. It’s a chilling way of putting it, and totally true.

  17. 17.

    BlueGuitarist

    I am not a savvy consumer
    Last week I mentioned having bought some discount postcard stamps (barns) online from

    foreverstampsshop.com

    some folks warned this might be a scam.
    i used one on a postcard I sent myself, which arrived today.
    Not sure if that’s enough evidence

  18. 18.

    CarolPW

    @OzarkHillbilly: ​
     Thank you. I love trains, and I love the music, and I cried. A children’s and a maternity hospital got blown up today, and that emotion needed someplace to go.

  20. 20.

    Princess

    If we had genuine news media in this country — rather than just a few propaganda organizayfor billionaires— they would have done a deep dive into this, explaining it to people and analyzing how it would affect us and who is behind it.

  21. 21.

    TBone

    A Thread About How To Fight Him (them):

    Anat Shenker-Osorio is a political communications expert and she has some excellent advice for America’s center-left:

    The French left just demonstrated precisely how to confront fascism: on offense. Le Pen tried to distance herself from…her own platform – sound familiar? – and the left gave her zero room. /1

    To be sure, the french enjoy the dubious advantage of direct lived experience of confronting fascism. But, nevertheless, stories do not tell themselves:

    digbysblog.net/2024/07/08/a-thread-about-how-to-fight-him/

    We have a lot more time than they did. And we’re confronting a crisis within the coalition that may or may not be resolved quickly. But this offensive is happening here and needs to ramp up considerably. Trump and the Republicans are furiously trying to disavow Project 2025 and the job of all of us to make sure they cannot.

    Inspiration – more at link!

  22. 22.

    Jackie

    @SiubhanDuinne:

    I dunno, are we better off hearing them put it all out there? It’s horrifying, but probably it’s healthier to expose the hatefulness for what it is.

    We’re (political junkies) aware. It’s the normies who need to be made aware. Once Project 2025 becomes familiar to ALL, voters will be voting with eyes wide open.

  24. 24.

    Scout211

    It’s  local news from El Paso Texas KFOX but it’s news that can be shared. The article was posted today.

    Trump’s campaign still owes El Paso over $500K for 2019 rally, other cities also unpaid

    Donald Trump still owes several cities money from past campaign rallies, including El Paso.

    Information compiled in 2019 from the Centers for Public Integrityshows that at least 12 cities were owed money, showing El Paso was owed the most.

    Laura Cruz-Acosta, communications director for the City of El Paso confirmed Trump has an outstanding balance of $569,204.63 which includes a one-time late fee of $98,787.58 for his February 2019 visit.

    It was primarily for law enforcement purposes and safety and security the health and wellness of the community as much as the health and wellness of those who were visiting us,” Cruz-Acosta said.

    . . .

    We also reached out to the other 11 cities on the CPI named as still being owed money, these cities are:

    Tucson, Arizona
    Mesa, Arizona
    Albuquerque, New Mexico
    Spokane, Washington
    Eau Claire, Wisconsin
    Billings, Montana
    Erie, Pennsylvania
    Lebanon, Ohio
    Green Bay, Wisconsin
    Burlington, Vermont
    Minneapolis, Minnesota

    Two responded. The police chief in Billings told KFOX14 Trump owes the city $45,900 for his 2018 visit.

    City officials in Green Bay sent an invoice showing he owes $9,380 for his 2016 rally but was in the city just this year in March and the city is still waiting for the more than $33,000 payment for that visit.

    #deadbeatDonnie

  25. 25.

    SomeRandomGuy

    A professional political team would’ve kept Project 2025 under wraps, but the Heritage Foundation just could not wait…

    They rolled them out in time with the felonies, friend. They didn’t know they were about to get handed the perfect “debate,” or they would have held back for *another* time when Trump needed a boost.

    They were going to roll it out at a time when they wanted to energize the fascists and remind them “the odds of winning are low, but just *look* at the prize those evil Democrat politicians want to steal from us!”

    My humble opinion only, of course, but remember, the news media wouldn’t consider P2025 important enough, unless it had gone viral at the right-as-in-correct moment. They’d say it was far out in the weeds, only of interest to wonks like, remember fat fat fatty AlGore, etc.. And did you forget that Biden is OLD, making Trump the masterdebater, blah blah, etc..

  27. 27.

    Another Scott

    @BlueGuitarist: I’d avoid them.

    Reddit – Unofficial guide to buying Forever stamps:

    Why it Matters: Note that this new initiative allows the USPS to identify and destroy packages and mail with counterfeit postage. Your happy mail will simply never arrive, and you may also receive a written warning from the Inspector General.(updated 09/05/23)

    “Postal Service interdictions of packages with counterfeit labels affixed. The Postal Service will fully exercise new authority to take possession and dispose of packages identified with counterfeit postage.”

    Does this mean letters? The updated answer, as of September 2023 is: definitely yes. This new law has teeth, and they’re using it.

    Caveat emptor!

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  29. 29.

    Jackie

    @Princess: For what it’s worth, MSNBC has been covering P’25 all day today. As a lot of the agenda is being adopted by the GQP Convention, it’s sure to get more mainstream coverage.

  30. 30.

    hrprogressive

    No Kings. 🚫 Trump
    No Masters. 🚫 Fascist Justices on SCOTUS
    No Fascism 🚫 GOP Elephant
    No Project 2025.
    Vote Democrat, 2024.

    Simple enough I think even normies would get it.

  33. 33.

    Ksmiami

    I’d vote Biden on a Gurney over the Heritage Nazis any day of the week and twice on Sundays…

  34. 34.

    TBone

    @zhena gogolia: beware – I unsubscribed two days ago because of misleading, click-baity, bothsides type articles.  The one linked to is excellent, however.

  36. 36.

    Elizabelle

    Gosh.  Maybe this will give the FTF Quisling NYTimes some news to pivot to.  Ya think?

  40. 40.

    cain

    @Elizabelle: Nope – they are stubborn motherfuckers.

    Those of you who want to fight the power – get rid of your NYT subscriptions. The crossword and the other stuff is not worth it – and you ain’t going to enjoy them when Project 2025 comes into fruition.

    You can always re-subscribe later.

  42. 42.

    topclimber

    @cain: I think we need to be nice to the Fascist Paper of Record, for these are rough times for them.

    They seem to have a demented publisher who is hell bent on destroying a once storied newspaper. He must be taking lessons in brand building from TCFG.

    Flash mob armed with tiny violins should gather outside FTFNYT’s HQ, 620 Avenue of the Americas. They need our support!

  43. 43.

    TBone

    Joyce Vance rounded up her Project 2025 Columns:

    The list below isn’t complete, but I’ve compiled most of the posts, starting with the first one back in November of 2023. And I’ll do my best to add to this as we move forward. If anyone catches one that I’ve missed, please let me know!

    joycevance.substack.com/p/project-2025-columns-index

    Everyone is getting on this! 😊

  44. 44.

    O. Felix Culpa

    @BlueGuitarist:

    I went to the USPS with postcard stamps from the same source. They said they’re counterfeit. Good counterfeits, but still counterfeit. I don’t want to risk using them and having the postcards land in the dead letter office.

    I immediately wrote to the vendor and asked for a refund, given what the post office clerk told me. Just got a message that a refund is on its way via PayPal. I think they don’t want the legal hassle or attention from lots of complaints about false advertising and selling counterfeit goods.

    My bad not to be more suspicious. Best to buy directly from the USPS. They have their own online store, if you don’t want to go to the post office.

  45. 45.

    Poe Larity

    I would have guessed Heritage was too normie Reagan-era conservative, did not know they went Magatilt.

  50. 50.

    Leto

    Joy Reid does a full blown, “This is why we’re supporting Biden; POC have always been the canaries in the coal mine telling everyone else wtf is coming down the pike; POC have been lock step in supporting Biden”, and has Jasmine Crockett on who as always bring the truth. Followed that by Jen Psaki who’s “Just asking questions” on why Biden needs to be replaced. Didn’t bother to watch her, and frankly I think she’s shit. She was fine as a White House Press Secretary, but as a pundit she’s just a Broderist. I swapped back over at the end of the program, because I was waiting on Maddow, and she had on OBros dipshit John Favreau who was saying the same thing: “I know we don’t have much time, but it’d be oh so courageous for him to do it.”

    I wanted to reach through the computer screen and fucking choke both of them out.

  51. 51.

    comrade scotts agenda of rage

    Good on TNR, wouldn’t have expected that out of them.

    In sharp contrast to the Washington Monthly which had one of their longtime writers come out as a Tonya Harding Dem.

    To be fair, not sure how many people actually see/read either of them but if it sways at least one Bedwetter Dem to a) vote for the ticket, and b) stop being a vocal Loyal-Dem-Buts person, it’s good.

  52. 52.

    Leto

    @SiubhanDuinne: I also wanted to ask you, what’s Agenda47? I figure it has to do with Trumpov, but I just heard about this today and I don’t know what this is. You, or anyone else, provide a credible link for it? Thank you!

  53. 53.

    comrade scotts agenda of rage

    @Leto:

    Jen Psaki who’s “Just asking questions” on why Biden needs to be replaced. Didn’t bother to watch her, and frankly I think she’s shit. She was fine as a White House Press Secretary, but as a pundit she’s just a Broderist. I swapped back over at the end of the program, because I was waiting on Maddow, and she had on OBros dipshit John Favreau who was saying the same thing: “I know we don’t have much time, but it’d be oh so courageous for him to do it.”

    “Oh so courageous?” JFC, that’s gotta be the worst and lord knows we’ve had a veritable hit parade of “worsts” in the last week.

  55. 55.

    zhena gogolia

    @Leto: I gave up on Psaki about 10 minutes after she left the White House. She’s still good friends with all those Obama bros.

  56. 56.

    Leto

    @comrade scotts agenda of rage: he needs to have that Dana Houle thread that AL posted this morning, concerning the sheer lunancy of it from a logistics standpoint, nailed to his forehead ala Martin Luther.

    Maxine Waters on Maddow (Ari Melber guest hosting), just spitting fire and truth.

  57. 57.

    UncleEbeneezer

    @Leto: Sigh…And before anyone makes the bullshit claim, No, Psaki and Favreau are not fucking CENTRISTS!  They both fancy themselves being very much in the Progressive wing of the Dem Party and hold fairly standard-Progressive stances on most issues.

    I listened to Favreau for several years on PSA and he was always a Bernie/Warren/AOC-stan who felt Obama wasn’t Progressive enough and even made fun of Biden, with the other PSA hosts, early on in the 2020 Primary.

  58. 58.

    MagdaInBlack

    @Leto: I just watched Stu, on “The Blaze” ( Glen Becks podcast) tell his audience that a vote for Biden is a vote for Kamala. So there ya go

    Eta: now I’m listening to Biden on MJ, as a palate cleanser.

  60. 60.

    moonbat

    I know politics in this country relies on people’s short memories but it boggles my mind that the Heritage Foundation still exists after The Bell Curve ‘research’ they funded back in the early 90s.

    Back then too many people who were math illiterate thought it must be science because there were numbers involved. When in fact it was just a statistically inept, thinly veiled call to put minorities in concentration camps lest their less intelligent genes taint the broader (read whiter) population.

    This is who they are. Project 2025 is who they have always been: Nazis.

    We need to pound Trump and the GOP on this every day til these Nazis crawl back under the rocks where they came from.

  62. 62.

    chemiclord

    This is what the mainstream media is trying to deflect attention from as they breathlessly discuss how Democrats are in disarray and that Biden’s brain is mush.

  63. 63.

    Jeffro

    @Ksmiami:I’d vote Biden on a Gurney over the Heritage Nazis any day of the week and twice on Sundays…

    I know this is goofy, but…wouldn’t that be a stunning campaign ad?

    It would open with Dark Brandon lying there on a gurney for a half sec and then sitting up and going, “Folks, get a grip.  I’m old but nothing is going to keep me from shoving this orange-pasted fascist down the rathole of history ONE MORE TIME, and then continuing to work every day to support America’s families and working class”

    (and then he kicks over an IV stand, or something)

    (or whatever)

    LOL

  65. 65.

    Tony G

    I have actually started to read this (900 page!!!) version of Mein Kampf.  (What the hell can be buried in those 900 pages?)

  66. 66.

    Tony G

    @Tony G: I already have two questions about Project 2025 …  1) What the hell is wrong with those dweebs at the Heritage Foundation?  Don’t they know that the way you play the game is to HIDE the ugly plans until AFTER Trump is elected?  They really don’t make fascists the way they used to.

  68. 68.

    moonbat

    @Tony G: I think it is an artifact of their right wing nutjob news bubble. They have so convinced themselves that their ideas are popular that they have no filter anymore.

    I say ‘Good!” Use their stupid complacency against them.

    Most folks actually don’t like Nazis, turns out.

  69. 69.

    Tony G

    @Tony G: 2) … and this is a rhetorical question … WHERE THE HELL IS THE SO-CALLED LIBERAL MEDIA???  THE NEW YORK TIMES, WASHINGTON POST, MSNBC, ETC.   There are about 120 days between now and Election Day.  Why is there not a team of journalists analyzing and reporting on this pile of garbage page by page every day between now and Election Day?  Why are ordinary citizens being forced to do it all themselves?

  72. 72.

    Tony G

    @thruppence: Yup.  Hitler’s incompetence saved the world 80 years ago.  Maybe the current crop of idiots will have the same outcome.

  75. 75.

    Jackie

    This is kinda hilarious in a heh heh way. Evangelists are pissed:

    “They rolled us. That’s what they did. I’ve never seen this happen before. I don’t understand why they did it, and I’m extremely disappointed that we do not have any pro-life language.”

    — RNC platform committee member Gail Ruzicka, speaking to reporters after today’s vote in Milwaukee.

    What she and others don’t get, but WE DO! – is TCFG is trying desperately to appeal to White Suburban Women voters, who he desperately needs to win. WE KNOW, should TCFG win in Nov, he will sign a national anti-abortion law seconds after being sworn in.

  76. 76.

    Geminid

    @Tony G: The Heritage people were probably overconfident. There’s been lot of that going on in right-wing circles for over a year now. They think Trump can’t lose.

    Trump’s campaign team may understand that he can lose; hence the disavowal of this toxic plan.

  77. 77.

    SomeRandomGuy

    @O. Felix Culpa: It is *your* fault that the animated “use the zip code (even if “just going across town”)” PSA from the USPS is playing in my head. YOURS AND YOURS ALONE!

    (That, or my medication.)

  78. 78.

    Tony G

    @moonbat: Yes, I think that that’s it.  They associate — both online and in Meatspace — only with fellow fascists — and they’re dumb enough to think that that’s how the rest of the country and the rest of the world thinks.  There are no adults in their room who will tell them that saboteurs have to CONCEAL THEMSELVES in order to successfully complete their mission.  The inevitable Hitler comparison: Nobody wanted to tell him that launching an invasion of the Soviet Union in June — only four months before the onset of freezing weather — was a plan that was likely to fail.

  79. 79.

    Tony G

    @zhena gogolia: Yes, I know.  We have cosplay liberal media — they pretend to care about gays and transgender people and even those uppity blacks — but they are owned by and represent corporate interests who would be happy to have President Trump in January.

  82. 82.

    JaySinWA

    @moonbat: They have so convinced themselves that their ideas are popular that they have no filter anymore.

    I’d modify that, they think their plans are popular with more people than they are, and they assume that there would be no significant resistance from the people that didn’t agree. They counted on “rational ignorance” to politics to keep any resistance from being a problem with the normies.

  83. 83.

    Tony G

    @Geminid: Yeah — but then Lara Trump endorsed Project 2025 the other day.  They are certainly evil but … wait for it … they are a bunch of incompetent idiots who don’t know how to agree upon and then repeat a standard set of lies.  That is corporate/political behavior 101 — the equivalent of tee-ball — and they CAN’T DO IT.   If we’re lucky, their stupidity will save us.

  84. 84.

    Tony G

    @Jay: Yeah.  I still listen to NPR and read the New York Times (taking both with a large grain of salt) — but I haven’t sat down and watched TV news since the Glorious Invasion of Iraq 21 years ago.  I’d rather stare at a blank wall that watch those idiots.

  86. 86.

    hrprogressive

    @Jeffro: ​
     

    Thanks! If there was a good way to have someone design this, and get it out to the masses, like that Stop Project 2025 sign…I think people might be keen to getting it out there

  87. 87.

    Tony G

    @Tony G: Remembering my old-school dad when I was a kid … When he decided that we had watched enough TV, he’d march into the living room, turn the TV off and announce: “Just look at the empty screen, kids!  You can use your brains to imagine anything you want!”.

  88. 88.

    BellyCat

    @Leto: Sadly, Psaki and the O’Bros (good under Obama) peaked too early and will remain ever-resentful for this.

  90. 90.

    moonbat

    @BellyCat: I wonder about them. They read like people who believe that they were once-in-a-lifetime strategists instead of strategists who were working for a once-in-a-lifetime candidate.

    Life is hard and reality is harder. Bound to lead to some bitterness, I guess.

  91. 91.

    Mike E

    @Tony G: umm tens of millions of people died due to that incompetent motherfucker, including people I’m related to.

  92. 92.

    moonbat

    @Tony G: That and I think our current social media environment plays into it also.

    They JUST CAN’T RESIST dunking on the ‘libtards’!

    It’s like a crack hit to them or something. Not even to achieve their own ends can they keep their stupid mouths shut.

  94. 94.

    BellyCat

    @moonbat:  Right?!?!  One has to hold back a chortle when Favreau wistfully comments on how hard they have fallen when “reading (actually, “mocking” would be more acurate) ads from their sponsors” .

    Dan Pfeiffer usually has some good insights, while Lovett can be viciously funny on-the-spot. But overall it all too often feels like a cheap booze hangover will commence the next day. And it can be so “insidery” that a shower seems advised after some episodes.

    ETA: The Crooked Media empire, with a number of other podcasts of interest, may be the bigger contribution.

  95. 95.

    Odie Hugh Manatee

    @Jackie:

    Spokane was never blue. I spent over 30 years there and the town sucks ass. One scandal after another; police, sheriff and city/county governments. I’m glad to have got out of there half a lifetime ago.

    The cops put the pig in pig.

  96. 96.

    tailfedders

    @The Red Pen:  I was wondering if there might be a bumper sticker out there somewhere and went to Etsy.  There is a TON of anti-Project 2025 merch–signs, bumper stickers, t shirts.  Very heartening to see plenty of people are sounding the alarm.  I also got a very cool sticker that is a QR code people can use to register to vote, right from the comfort of your bumper.  https://www.etsy.com/listing/1482955073/love-qr-register-to-vote-code-3×45?ref=cart

  98. 98.

    Geminid

    @Tony G: Laura Trump is not running that campaign, Susan Wiles is and and she is an experienced and capable operative. Wiles has a very problematic candidate to wrangle but so far she’s keeping him on track. I expect she was one of the people who persuaded Trump to distance himself from Project 2025.

    Wiles got her start working for Ronald Reagan’s 1980 presidential campaign, on his advance team. She quickly developed a reputation as a hard worker who could “make the trains run on time.” She’s stayed in politics since. When Trump hired Wiles 3 years ago, he hired a pro

    Fun Susan Wiles fact: after she graduated from the University of Maryland, her father helped her get a job in Rep. Jack Kemp’s office. Her father was sportscaster Pat Sumerall; he’d been a teamate of Kemp’s when he played in the NFL.

  99. 99.

    Captain C

    @Tony G:

    We have cosplay liberal media — they pretend to care about…transgender people

    Offer not valid for FTFNYT subscribers.

  101. 101.

    RaflW

    Late arriving, but I’ll adjust Ms. M’s tweet in the OP:
    Trump & Heritage didn’t think the press would read Project 2025. It’s policy. Booooring.

  102. 102.

    Sister Golden Bear

    @hrprogressive:

    Excellent! Might I suggest a couple tweaks:

    No Kings. 🚫 Trump
    No Masters. 🚫 Fascist Justices on SCOTUS
    No Fascism 🚫 GOP White Supremacists
    No Project 2025 🚫 Christian Nationalist theocracy
    Vote Democrat, 2024

  104. 104.

    Sister Golden Bear

    @Tony G: Except they don’t care about trans people, they’re just asking questions they want us to exist.

    Which Project 2025 would conveniently do. They plan to legally decree anything having with trans people to be pornographic—including our very existence—and then outlaw all “pornography.”

  105. 105.

    wjca

    @JaySinWA: they assume that there would be no significant resistance from the people that didn’t agree.

    See their comment that “the revolution will be bloodless, if the left** allows it to be.”  I.e. if those who disagree just rolled over and let it happen.  In their (fever) dreams.

    ** Bad news for them.  It ain’t just “the left” who don’t like their plan.  It’s also the center and the non-reactionary, non-fascist conservatives who hate it.

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    Chris Johnson

    @Tony G: It’s intrinsic to fascists. Once you decide that there are worst people and best people, that hierarchy governs all, and that your shit don’t stink, you stop being even able to listen or learn.

    The way around that is multicultural melting-pot democracy, which is stressful and grating and produces awesome results because it confronts everyone with challenges and perspectives not their own. If you’re good you can pick up on that and make amazing syntheses, come up with new stuff.

    Fascists are not interested in hearing from their lessers, so their results end up sucking even if you ignore their evilness. Project 2025 is epically stupid and catastrophic on so many levels: it would be a foot-shooting of epic, historic proportions.

    Might be why Russia wants us doing it so bad. It’s hard to tell, because they’re fascist too, so maybe they like some of those points, but if they knew it was catastrophic they’d want us doing it all the more.

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