Come for the politics, stay for the snark.

Within six months Twitter will be fully self-driving.

“Loving your country does not mean lying about its history.”

Sitting here in limbo waiting for the dice to roll

Some judge needs to shut this circus down soon.

Nothing worth doing is easy.

Thanks to your bullshit, we are now under siege.

Sadly, media malpractice has become standard practice.

Of course you can have champagne before noon. That’s why orange juice was invented.

Nancy smash is sick of your bullshit.

“The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits.”

Following reporting rules is only for the little people, apparently.

I see no possible difficulties whatsoever with this fool-proof plan.

Something needs to be done about our bogus SCOTUS.

This has so much WTF written all over it that it is hard to comprehend.

Too often we confuse noise with substance. too often we confuse setbacks with defeat.

Books are my comfort food!

Fight them, without becoming them!

Shut up, hissy kitty!

I’ve spoken to my cat about this, but it doesn’t seem to do any good.

Since we are repeating ourselves, let me just say fuck that.

The next time the wall street journal editorial board speaks the truth will be the first.

Michigan is a great lesson for Dems everywhere: when you have power…use it!

Their boy Ron is an empty plastic cup that will never know pudding.

Mediocre white men think RFK Jr’s pathetic midlife crisis is inspirational. The bar is set so low for them, it’s subterranean.

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I May Quit My Day Job and Just Watch This All Day (oh and Loose Cannon Given Notice of the Jack Smith Appeal)

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I may just quit my day job and watch this over and over and over.

Happy to see this.

Can we maybe not talk about you know what in this thread?

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  2. 2.

    Trollhattan

    Spouse lurves the State Fair petting zoo and one year the best part were a pair of teeny goats too wild to put in a pen, so they just frolicked around the attendants’ area.

    Where you could play with teeny frolicking goats! Suckers can jump, too. Better than cats

    We also have this in the metroplex, and they are not kidding (heh) about there being goats.

    https://www.goathousebrewing.com/

  8. 8.

    Scout211

    Sweet! My neighbors have goats and I love, love, love watching the babies. Just like the two in the video, they do that hyperactive jump, jump, jump and it is everything.  

    And also sweet is all the legal experts who are predicting that not only will the dismissal be overturned but Cannon might just get removed.

  10. 10.

    CaseyL

    If you like seeing baby goats cavorting, you must must MUST check out Sunflower Farm Creamery.]

    They’re a goat farm –  dairy, not meat. They have a whole herd of baby goats every year, most of whom go to new homes.  And they have a policy that people who adopt their baby goats have to take at least two, so no goat gets lonely.

    They became Internet Famous back during lockdown when they posted videos of dozens of baby goats running out of the barn in the morning, and videos of baby goats in pajamas.

    It’s wholesome, loving, gentle, and a real tonic in these parlous times.

  12. 12.

    WereBear

    @Scout211: And also sweet is all the legal experts who are predicting that not only will the dismissal be overturned but she might just get removed.

     
    Jack Smith arranged this outcome with the filings, I understand. She would take the bait.

  14. 14.

    Trollhattan

    We just endured the biggest, yugest, bestest heat wave and the California grid did just fine, thank you. Evidently they’ve been adding a metric butt-tonne of batteries. Yes, batteries.

    California’s power grid emerged from a nearly three weeklong record-setting heat wave relatively unscathed, and officials are crediting years of investment in renewable energy — particularly giant batteries that store solar power for use when the sun stops shining.

    “This was a good early test that we passed in very good shape,” said Elliot Mainzer, president and CEO of California Independent System Operator (CAISO), on Monday. “Investments in new clean energy and in dispatchable battery storage played a major role.”

    CAISO last issued calls for voluntary conservation two years ago, during a 2022 bout of extreme heat. Since then, roughly 11,600 megawatts of new renewable energy sources have come onto California’s electricity grid. That includes 10,000 megawatts of battery power, enough to power 10 million homes for a few hours.

    California is now home to the most grid batteries in the world outside of China, Mainzer said. “Batteries performed very well in this event, they were charged and ready at the right times for optimization on the grid,” he added. “That made a big, big difference.”

    Many Californians remember a suffocating heat wave in August 2020 that prompted rolling blackouts for several hundred thousand Californians, and some will remember another two years ago that prompted a series of voluntary Flex Alerts. Those periods were likely on their mind over the last few weeks, when sweltering heat enveloped California.

    This prolonged heat wave was the hottest 20-day period on record in Sacramento and set an all-time temperature record of 124 degrees in Palm Springs. But emergency alerts or calls for voluntary conservation were ultimately avoided this time around. Apart from battery storage, Mainzer also credited that success to less extreme temperatures in Southern California as well as noticeable slightly lower electricity consumption in the peak demand hours, from 4 p.m. to 9 p.m.

    https://www.sacbee.com/news/politics-government/capitol-alert/article290009339.html#storylink=cpy

    The future isn’t in the future.

  16. 16.

    Josie

    My oldest son kept Boer goats for many years. At one point he brought me twin babies whose mother had died. We had to bottle feed them and take care of them until they were big enough to rejoin the herd. I have kept many different animals during my life, but I have to say the baby goats are among the cuddliest and cutest of all.

  17. 17.

    cain

    @Scout211: Color me cynical – but hopefully the 11th circuit will do the right thing.

    I’d love to see Cannon tossed out and her career in tatters since she decided to go full federalist society.

  19. 19.

    WereBear

    The only thing wrong with goats is that they can’t be housetrained.

    But take your two goats hiking. They will wear saddlebags and won’t stray from the group.

  21. 21.

    MisterForkbeard

    @Trollhattan: As always, living in California means you get a lot of nonsense but you ALSO get a lot of good stuff a couple decades before the rest of the country.

  22. 22.

    Scout211

    @WaterGirl: Any thoughts on how soon we might see some movement from the 11th Circuit in response to this from Jack Smith?

    Some snippets from a USA Today article.

    Smith’s expected appeal could drag on for months or more than a year, particularly if the Supreme Court decides to weigh in.

    Smith will need to first appeal to the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 11th Circuit within 30 days. It will likely take at least months for that court to get briefs from both Smith and Trump, potentially hold oral arguments, and then issue a decision. If the Supreme Court takes the issue up, at a minimum the appeal would probably drag on for months.

    That drawn-out timeline may only be relevant if Trump doesn’t become president. The Justice Department concluded in a 2000 memo that sitting presidents may not be indicted or criminally prosecuted while in office.

    If Trump becomes president in January, questions about the fate of his classified documents case could become moot for years at least. Trump could − in a move that his opponents would likely call an assault on the rule of law − order the Justice Department to drop the charges and fire any attorney general who refuses to do so.

    Several attorneys quoted in the article, including a f*cking Heritage Foundation attorney.  (*spit!*)

    ETA: typos

  23. 23.

    guachi

    The NASDAQ was down 2.77% today entirely because of Trump’s mouth. Semiconductor stocks took a beating entirely because of Trump’s mouth. Lower corporate taxes don’t mean much when you have no profit to be taxed. Maybe these tech bros should reconsider backing Trump.

  24. 24.

    Chet Murthy

    @Trollhattan:

    The future isn’t in the future.

    over a decade ago Brad Delong wrote that if you wanted to see the future, you should look at California.  It breaks my heart that we’re doing it, and yet it might all get destroyed by the bastards in the Red States.

  25. 25.

    Sister Golden Bear

    @Trollhattan: Yep, there’s a huge battery storage facility in Moss Landing, near Monterey. I believe there’s others.

    CA currently has a problem where we’re occasionally generating more solar power than can be used or sold, which is why they cut subsidies for home solar panels. Hope the start offering incentives for home battery storage, but you know PG&E and SCE will fight tooth and nail against.

  26. 26.

    Omnes Omnibus

    Goats and positive thinking?

    “Where a goat can go, a man can go.  And where a man can go, he can drag a gun.”   Attributed to MG William Phillips after he was told that it was impossible to put artillery on top of Mt. Defiance overlooking Ft. Ticonderoga.

  27. 27.

    Starfish

    @Chet Murthy: Not even just in red states. Kathy Hochul did not cover herself in glory when she decided that she wanted to replace the congestion tolls for New York City with a city tax.

    New York and California have been leading the way on climate change efforts, and here is their stupid governor attempting to roll back the efforts.

  29. 29.

    MinuteMan

    @Scout211: And also sweet is all the legal experts who are predicting that not only will the dismissal be overturned but Cannon might just get removed.

     

    Pity that the 11th can also dismiss her for incompetence and obvious malfeasance.

  30. 30.

    NotMax

    Repeating for the afternoon crowd, FYI.

    In case any have been on the fence about getting a Roku device, very good sale prices across the board for Prime Days (last day of which is today; ends midnight Pacific time).

    Hint: if you have no inclination for listening via earphones, go for a model without a headphone jack on the remote and save more shekels that way.

  31. 31.

    Martin

    @Trollhattan: Most of the reason why we didn’t suffer the same fate as 2020 is because the reservoirs are full. In 2020, we’d lost a fuckton of hydro generation that even the (very impressive quantity of) batteries haven’t fully covered, but this year we have the benefit of both.

    The state needs to add so much battery capacity and generation to cover EV load, though. We spent decades getting by on conservation and limiting electricity use, but now that the state is looking to replace gas appliances with electric and EVs, there’s no ducking having to build out generation/storage. Costs for PG&E customers is going to be astronomical. We should have let them fail rather than let them gouge ratepayers to cover their lawsuits.

  34. 34.

    indycat32

    At the beginning of the pandemic I was binge watching “Too Cute”.  One episode had puppies and a baby pygmy goat.  He was soooo cute.  Would jump straight up into the air as if he was on a pogo stick, or a trampoline.

  35. 35.

    JAFD

    If you have to be in Wisconsin this week, the Int’l Plastic Modelers’ Society annual convention is in Madison.  Should be more interesting that the gathering in Milwaukee

  36. 36.

    RaflW

    @Trollhattan: Meanwhile Texas’s grid, which was announced as “Fixt!” by Greg Abbott not long after the clod-snap crisis a couple years back, can’t handle jack shit.

    No wonder people in Texas hate California. Envy is an ugly feeling.

  37. 37.

    Omnes Omnibus

    @japa21: A commenter a couple of weeks ago said the we should approach things like the military and challenge people by saying something was impossible and having people try to prove them wrong.  That doesn’t fit with my experience.  What happens in the military is you are told that something needs do be done and that you need to do it.  A little bit of that attitude would go well right now.  We need to defeat Trump.  We need to “take that hill.”

  39. 39.

    Geminid

    @MisterForkbeard: I see California as setting the standard for firearms regulation. I’m hoping Virginia can get there by the end of this decade.

    I’m curious though: what do you think of California’s jungle primary system?

  41. 41.

    Fake Irishman

    @Trollhattan:

    You know, climate change is moving quickly, but so is humanity. We’ve actually made a ton of progress in setting up deep emission cuts and strengthening power grids.

    Hang in there everyone.

    Also, I approve of the goat post!

  43. 43.

    Burnspbesq

    @WaterGirl:

    it’ll happen when it happens. But they dealt with the last appeal of a ridiculous Cannon order pretty expeditiously, so there is hope.

  45. 45.

    Ceci n est pas mon nym

    Goats are really cute. Unfortunately (for goats) they are also really tasty. So far they’re still on my “will eat” list, but the older I get, the smaller that list gets. I love octopus for instance but I don’t think I’m going to eat any more.

  46. 46.

    MisterForkbeard

    @Geminid: The jungle primary is weird and I’m not super into it. I generally like it, but the capability for parties that can’t get their shit together and unite behind a candidate or two means it has the potential for some seriously fucked up problems.

    Jungle primary with ranked-choice seems like a better bet there, and a way to avoid the big pitfalls.

  47. 47.

    Ceci n est pas mon nym

    @Burnspbesq: I’m more concerned with whether Cannon can at long last be forcibly recused. So long as that happens, I’ll live with whatever timeline happens on the trial.

    So I guess I’m implicitly assuming there will be a trial, that this ludicrous order will be reversed.

  48. 48.

    Burnspbesq

    The best thing about baby goats is that they are often found in the company of Great Pyrenees puppies.

  51. 51.

    kindness

    @Geminid: I voted against Open primaries and the jungle primary.  Out here in CA, it’s super easy to change political parties.  If you wanted to vote in a different party’s primary, just switch parties.  Seems to me actual Democrats should be the ones deciding which Democrat should run in the general.  Same for the other parties

    I lost.  Such is life I guess.

  54. 54.

    Old Man Shadow

    I am not going to complain. I am going to say how cute my 15 year-old rescue dachshund is in that she left the comfort of her pillow and blankie, came over, put her front paws on my leg as I sit at my work station and demanded that I take a break and give her pets.

  55. 55.

    KayInMD (formerly Kay (not the front-pager))

    @WereBear:The only thing wrong with goats is that they can’t be housetrained.

    My ex brother-in-law and his wife do a lot of animal rescue. One of their animals is a disabled goat who has to be kept in the house overnight (I’ve forgotten the reason, but he isn’t/wasn’t safe in the barn overnight). Their solution to the not-housebroken problem was a tee-shirt with a diaper pinned to it. He showed us pictures, and it turns out even old billy goats are cute when dressed in tee-shirts and diapers.

  57. 57.

    SiubhanDuinne

    I love goats. Big goats, little goats, bouncy goats, not-quite-as-bouncy-goats, baby goats, grownup goats, mountain goats, valley goats, goats wearing pajamas, goats wearing other things, goats wearing nothing at all. They are all quite adorable.

  58. 58.

    Chris Johnson

    @WaterGirl: I would be surprised if they moved real quick, but I do remember some interesting points Harry Littman brought up. Harry’s been great when on his own, but has a nasty tendency to have podcasts where MSM types repeat their narratives to minor polite pushback from Harry.

    When Trump was convicted of multiple felonies, Harry was very interesting about that. He says that Trump likely has no idea what he’s in for, in that he must meet with his probation officer and comply with the requirements of the court or be imprisoned. This other court may well be able to require things of him as well.

    The problem there is that he and the RNC have clearly gone all in on criming and insurrection, so it becomes one of those things we’ve seen all along: people seem to behave like it’s the court’s job, or Garland’s job, to run in and shoot the miscreant in the leg, and that’s not how any of that works.

    Instead it’s more about Trump digging deeper and deeper holes for himself, and further incriminating himself, while the millstones of the law grind deep.

    I don’t think conspiracy by Supreme Court Justices to immunize him from crime is really a way to lastingly do an end run around The Law, or to just flip it off like a switch. I think these people are counting on being able to suddenly establish an insane, horrifying theocratic dictatorship in which all the tyrants mistrust and fight each other, and use THAT to get around the law, and then they expect it to actually STICK. It’s underpants gnome revolution.

    That’s my thoughts on seeing the case stripped from Cannon. Bear in mind also that this one is the very case in which I think it might seriously reveal that Trump’s been working for Putin the whole time, and is wildly traitorous, stealing shit for his master like some evil golden retriever. (if there could be such a thing: nah, catastrophic metaphor fail).

    And it has not been killed. Double jeopardy did not attach, and I’m given to understand Cannon’s circuit wanted very badly for her to step down due to her obvious, debilitating, humiliating bias that had already seen her reversed.

    If it IS possible for the court to act rapidly, we’ll probably see that. I think it’ll move with deliberate speed and care.

  59. 59.

    Weapon X

    @guachi: ​
     

    I thought that his decades-long lousy record as a businessman, his reputation as a two bit con artist, and a penchant for screwing over everyone who does business with him would’ve done that a long time ago. It’s like they want to let the guy with the long history of accidents, speeding tickets, etc. be the designated driver because they’re just so anxious to get rip-roaring drunk. I don’t get it.

  61. 61.

    Captain C

    @cain: Since she has a lifetime appointment, barring a successful impeachment, I’d like to see her transferred to the Federal Court of Traffic Tickets in northern Alaska.  Or Northern Idaho.  I’m not picky.

  62. 62.

    sab

    @SiubhanDuinne: My sister tells me that the whole point of fainting goats is that when they climb onto your mercedes in the exurban driveway you can clap your hands and they will fall off.

    I think that is an unusually cynical take.

  63. 63.

    Jay

    Elon Musk
    Peter Thiel
    Rupert Murdoch
     
    The immigrants ruining America. – Mark Elliot

  64. 64.

    Trollhattan

    @Martin:

    Drought sure doesn’t help in total generation or flexibility.

    This is well beyond what I had imagined. Example: last Friday  the 12th, gruesomely hot and during peak demand @ about 20:00, renewables have dropped as usual and batteries were supplying 5,300 MW, large hydro 4,100 MW. In a wet year that’s amazing.

  66. 66.

    Captain C

    @Ceci n est pas mon nym:

    I love octopus for instance but I don’t think I’m going to eat any more.

    I read Soul of an Octopus while traveling in Japan.  Made it morally more difficult to eat the takoyaki.  I have since decided I will only eat octopus in Japan (assuming I go back one day).

  67. 67.

    KayInMD (formerly Kay (not the front-pager))

    @Ceci n est pas mon nym: I love octopus for instance but I don’t think I’m going to eat any more.

    Yup. I’m not eating anything that just might be smarter than me, at least in some ways.

  68. 68.

    Maxim

    @Martin:

    We should have let them fail rather than let them gouge ratepayers to cover their lawsuits.

    Hear, hear.

    I also approve of bouncing baby goats.

  70. 70.

    Trollhattan

    @RaflW: Texas gets more perfecter every day. Elmo’s newest moves there will help bigly, also too.

    They’re also energy gluttons. ERCOT demand ATM is 72 GW. CAISO is 30 GW.

  71. 71.

    Dorothy A. Winsor

    I just talked to my sister, who lives in Rome, NY where the tornado struck yesterday. Her house is ok, though they’ve been without power for almost 24 hours. But my nephew had the roof blown off his house. Nobody hurt. Just a lot of frightening moments and a hard slot ahead.

  72. 72.

    Craig

    I was gone for all of April and came home to a full jungle in my yard, lots of rain and sunshine. The guy that runs the community garden by my house keeps a couple small groups of goats in a few blank lots in West Oakland. He brought some over to murder the weeds. The two babies were bouncing off a table and hopping all over the bench. Free awesome entertainment for a few days.

  73. 73.

    Jeffro

    @TBone: so Leonard Leo owns J.D. Vance in addition to SCOTUS?

    Couldn’t he just collect comic books or baseball cards??!?

  74. 74.

    Ceci n est pas mon nym

    @SiubhanDuinne: Big goats, little goats, bouncy goats, not-quite-as-bouncy-goats, baby goats, grownup goats, mountain goats, valley goats, goats wearing pajamas, goats wearing other things, goats wearing nothing at all.

    If that wasn’t a Dr. Seuss book, it should have been.

  75. 75.

    Trollhattan

    @Dorothy A. Winsor: I don’t think of NY as tornado alley, more tornado’s outbuilding over by the property line where farmer Bill sometimes stores alfalfa.

    Glad she’s okay but a roof? Oof.

  76. 76.

    MomSense

    This whole situation is so incredibly infuriating.  This should be a slam dunk case except for a corrupt and/or halfwit judge who is making a mockery of it to protect the worst person in the world. To think we spent soooo much fucking time over the butteremails only to have this actual disastrous threat to our national security ignored. It’s a travesty of Justice.

  77. 77.

    Jay

    Do not get lost in a sea of despair. Do not become bitter or hostile. Be hopeful, be optimistic. Never, ever be afraid to make some noise and get in good trouble, necessary trouble. We will find a way to make a way out of no way. – posted on July 16, 2019 by Rep. John Lewis (1940-2020)

  78. 78.

    sab

    @sab: My husband thinks octopuses are space aliens or something. Kind aliens who set themselves up for horror (that being human treatment.)  I can’t argue.

  79. 79.

    Urza

    @guachi: Not to entirely contradict you but it was actually a policy Biden is putting in place.  So obviously its Obama’s fault.

  80. 80.

    raven

    @Jeffro:

     

    Remember how Republicans denigrated Al Gore’s Vietnam Service because he was just an Army journalist??

    “After graduating from Middletown High School in 2003, JD Vance enlisted in the U.S. Marine Corps. He was deployed to Iraq as a combat correspondent for six months in late 2005.There, he was assigned to the Public Affairs section of the 2nd Marine Aircraft Wing.This period of service has been described as “the defining chapter of his life”, where he first developed a sense of purpose.

  81. 81.

    Jay

    @Trollhattan:

    AGW has made “Tornado Alley” obsolete.

    Destructive tornado’s have struck in lots of places where tornado’s have never happened before.

  82. 82.

    KayInMD (formerly Kay (not the front-pager))

    A bad series of thunderstorms that went through Monday evening knocked out power for several hours. Then power went down off and on all night, for periods anywhere from momentary to an hour. It really put the battery backup to our solar system to the test. There was one power blip where the battery just did not come on. Fortunately power was only out for about 10 minutes that time. But that was the only failure. Every other time, our emergency panel, with refrigerators, freezer, computers/internet, TVs, kitchen/bedroom/bathroom circuits were all on. No AC, alas, but we did have ceiling fans.

    No lights in the kitchen though. That’s something we’ll need to remedy.

  83. 83.

    frog

    @Scout211:

     

    The Justice Department concluded in a 2000 memo that sitting presidents may not be indicted or criminally prosecuted while in office.

    Then what are Vice Presidents for?

  84. 84.

    Jeffro

    @raven: the double standards are, as always, infuriating.

    Combat correspondent, eh?  Thank you for your service, J.D.  Just be sure to be honest when talking about it, both to your voters and to the media alike.

  85. 85.

    Marc

    @Sister Golden Bear:  Yep, there’s a huge battery storage facility in Moss Landing, near Monterey. I believe there’s others.

    There is a huger pumped hydro storage facility (and it’s not even the largest in the state) visible on either side of I5 on the LA side of The Grapevine.  However, building pumped hydro doesn’t make Elon rich, nor does it encourage associated massive donations to the right candidates.

  86. 86.

    CaseyL

    @sab: Your husband isn’t alone.

    People who believe in Panspermia – much less racy than it sounds; it just means that (some) life originated on Earth via genetic material coming here from elsewhere, whether it was microbial or viral  – do make a case that octopuses are aliens, or at least have alien genetic stuff.

    But the truth is, our last common ancestor was a VERY LONG TIME AGO.  Like, before there were even vertebrates.

    The fact that octopuses seem so alien, and their intelligence seems so alien, is what I absolutely love about them.

  87. 87.

    Ruckus

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    As someone who spent nearly 4 lifetimes in the USN, (OK it was supposed to be 4 YRS it just felt like a lifetime. I got discharged 6 months early – Vietnam was over) and I agree with you 1000%. Sure one was told what to do but one was also told exactly who, what, when, where and how as well. And even if the person telling had absolutely ZERO concept of anything but what, it was always who, what, when, where and how. Command discipline you know….

  88. 88.

    UncleEbeneezer

    Just found out my local UDH has postcard writing parties every M/W/F 10:30-12:30.  So I think after my Summer camps are done in two weeks, I’ll start going to those.  It would be a nice option for me to do something constructive and not have to order postcards and pay for them myself.

    Also it will help keep me away from the endless doom/gloom and panic-mongering here.

  90. 90.

    sab

    @CaseyL: Also their intelligence seems so intelligent. Not your average friendly cow. Something on our level at least.

    ( Apologies. My grandfather was a dairy farmer who loved his cows. He thought they were kind and loyal. )

  91. 91.

    schrodingers_cat

    What do you guys think of this theory.

    Someone said the white media and the white pundits don’t like Biden because he is too comfortable around black people

  94. 94.

    TBone

    @Jeffro: yes, Leonard Leo owns J.D. Vance as well as the Supremacists Court and gawd knows what-all else. The Teneo Network is frightening.

    Leonard Leo, a key architect of the Supreme Court’s conservative supermajority, is now the chairman of Teneo Network, a group that aims to influence all aspects of American politics and culture.

    https://www.propublica.org/article/leonard-leo-teneo-videos-documents

    Sitting tucked into a couch, with wire-rimmed glasses and hair gone to gray, Leo conveyed his inspiration and intentions: “I just said to myself, ‘Well, if this can work for law, why can’t it work for lots of other areas of American culture and American life where things are really messed up right now?’”

    And

    https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/a43336330/teneo-leonard-leo/

    Hillary warned us.  It is vast.

  95. 95.

    Sister Machine Gun of Quiet Harmony

    @schrodingers_cat: Its possible. I think its more likely that they don’t like him because of ageism, which is what they’ve been consistently saying.

  96. 96.

    CaseyL

    @schrodingers_cat:

    I think it’s mostly about the money.  Joe and Kamala, with a Democratic majority in both houses, would continue dismantling the Supply Side Economics that gave us our oligarchic overlords.

    Then again, Bill Clinton was unusually comfortable around people of color also, and the MSM attacked him unrelentingly for 8 years.

    Por que no los dos?  As they say.

  98. 98.

    Lapassionara

    About the documents case, I am not sure whether all the documents have been returned to the government. I’ve been wondering about that issue for a while, as if Trump still has documents, and especially if the docs are considered secret, there might be a basis for an expedited appeal.

  99. 99.

    Geminid

    @MisterForkbeard: Alaska intoduced a hybrid system in 2022. There is a jungle primary with the top 4 finishers advancing to a ranked-choice runoff in November.

    Both Rep. Mary Peltola and Senator Lisa Murkowski win reelection under the new rules. They campaigned together during the last few weeks.

  102. 102.

    gene108

    @MinuteMan:

    She’ll just go onto the right wingnut welfare rolls somewhere or another.

    Cannon only does this, if she no longer wants to be a judge.

    She’s not getting fired for anything she did on the documents case. She has this job for the rest of her life.

  103. 103.

    Sister Machine Gun of Quiet Harmony

    @TBone: Its interesting that when political violence breaks out, the would be assassins always target the public facing person, like Trump, instead of the puppet masters like Leo or the foot soldiers creating and carrying out the agenda. The anti-abortion radicals were an exception. They targeted the actual doctors performing the procedures.

  105. 105.

    Trollhattan

    Bwa-ha-ha, “Dr.” Ronny to the rescue.

    Ronny Jackson Examined Trump’s Ear
    July 17, 2024 at 5:48 pm EDT By Taegan Goddard

    Rep. Ronny Jackson (R-TX) was on Donald Trump’s plane on Sunday afternoon, the day after the former president survived an assassination attempt, when he quickly reverted to his role of doctor, the New York Times reports.

    Said Jackson: “The bullet took a little bit off the top of his ear in an area that, just by nature, bleeds like crazy. The dressing’s bulked up a bit because you need a bit of absorbent. You don’t want to be walking around with bloody gauze on his ear.”

    Committed to the bit, he is. Surprised we did not get a “The best, most perfect ear of any ear I have examined in the history of ears. An ear apart.”

  112. 112.

    TBone

    @Sister Machine Gun of Quiet Harmony: nobody (normies) really knows about Leonard Leo, or what he looks like.

    It’s the vast rightwing conspiracy (Teneo Network plus Xtian Nat’ls. networks, plus..) uncovered by Propublica that’s truly terrifying IMO.  Moreso than assassination attempts.  They’re out to kill our very way of life and are very serious about it.

    Thiel is there, and whoever called out the Apartheid sleazebags today is onto something.

    Rotten in Denmark.

  113. 113.

    Ruckus

    @SiubhanDuinne:

    At least we have drugs and procedures that work on Covid now. We have a concept of how to treat it.

    And – SHIT! I have no other word.

  114. 114.

    caphilldcne

     

    @SiubhanDuinne: hopefully he’ll have a mild version. I’m currently in Day 4. Honestly it hasn’t been terrible. Sore throat, cough, occasional slight fever. Get well soon, Mr President!

  115. 115.

    Trollhattan

    Seems like the bastard is back. Nearly a year since I caught it–do not want again.

    Coronavirus levels have jumped significantly in wastewater across the nation, an indication that the summer bump is continuing to grow. National virus measurements in sewage reached “high” levels for the first time this summer, according to estimates released Friday by the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

    COVID-19 is growing or probably growing in 44 states and in the nation’s capital, the agency reported. And for the first time since the winter, California has “very high” coronavirus levels in its wastewater, according to CDC data for the week ending July 6.

    California was one of seven states in this category; the others are Arkansas, Florida, Maryland, Nevada, Oregon and Texas. Nineteen other states, covering every region in the country, have high coronavirus levels in sewage. Coronavirus levels in California’s wastewater are now estimated to be significantly higher than last summer.

    And in Northern California two of the largest sewersheds, covering San Jose and Palo Alto in Santa Clara County (the region’s most populous county), reported high levels of the virus in wastewater. Also, the rate at which COVID tests are coming back with positive results in California has almost reached last summer’s peak. For the week that ended July 8, 13% of reported tests came back positive; the rate for the comparable week a month earlier was 4.8%. The latest positive test rate almost exceeds the peak from last summer, which was 13.1% in late August and early September. In Los Angeles County, the nation’s most populous, coronavirus levels in wastewater have jumped significantly.

    https://www.sacbee.com/news/nation-world/national/article290077819.html#storylink=cpy 

    “Sewershed.” Hmm

  116. 116.

    bbleh

    What was NOT made public because it was filed under seal was the Klingon Formal Notice of qaD (challenge), because did you REALLY think Jack “You Can’t Pronounce The Original Klingon” Smith was gonna let Cannon just walk away?

    Not sure what the protocols are for humans without combat training …

  117. 117.

    Chris Johnson

    @Trollhattan: That’s bad. At least ‘flying glass’ has a shred of plausibility to cover a self-imposed ‘blading’ wound.

    High velocity rounds vaporize shit. It’s not like some little knife that comes around and ‘snip’. If the round grazes you, your blood and flesh ricochet off the speeding projectile like shooting a watermelon.

    Apologies for knowing about this sort of thing, I’m not even that much of an authority, but even I know that. Mythbusters etc. and the attempts of ‘Slo Mo Guys’ to do bullet-related slo-mo shots.

    What this man is claiming happened is impossible and an obvious lie. If he’d claimed a glass shard did it, that would at least be possible even if it was a lie. But this is 100% not a possible thing. Not even a graze. It wouldn’t work like that.

  118. 118.

    Ruckus

    @TBone:

    Now I believe their goal is to enrich themselves and they likely feel like subservience to their wealth and standing is how they do that.

    Money is a hell of a drug and having a lot of it brings ideas that it can’t pay for. And shouldn’t be able to obtain.

  120. 120.

    Yutsano

    @Sister Machine Gun of Quiet Harmony: They’re cowards then. They didn’t say boo until Biden had one bad public performance. Then it’s a thousand knives for his back all of a sudden. It’s too convenient that they all decided to strike just because the king looked vulnerable. There was a chance to replace Biden, and that was in the primary. Nobody important* ran against him and so the voters made an overwhelming choice. So they waited. I don’t have patience for these fools especially now when we need to show some damn unity.

    *Gelato Millionaire and the Crystal Lady were never serious candidates at any point in their campaigns. Actually: did Phillips ever suspend his campaign?

  121. 121.

    CaseyL

    @TBone:

    Yes, it is.  Particularly if you’re older, and have had it before.

    Joe’s had it at least once before

  122. 122.

    TBone

    @Ruckus: 👍 so many billionaires are just bugfuck insane.  I wish we could put shock collars on them to use when they’re hurting us, and also use electric cattle prods to corral them onto a one-way space flight.

  124. 124.

    Mike in NC

    @JAFD: I went to the IPMS Nationals some years back when it was held in Columbia, SC. Very disappointed in not spending a dime.

  126. 126.

    karen marie

    @Scout211:   I think “all the legal experts” is a bit of a stretch.

    The kids over at Lawfare have a more nuanced and, I dare say, a more realistic take.

  127. 127.

    BR

    Biden getting COVID again tips the scales for me and I think maybe it’s time for Harris. I’m fine if Biden stays on, but I’ve been ultra serious about COVID (and understanding it deeply) since January 2020 (and SARS before that), and we all know this is not something to take lightly. Even with Paxlovid, it’s not a good idea / very difficult to go back to full strength in less than a month. And age and stress doesn’t help matters.

  129. 129.

    schrodingers_cat

    @zhena gogolia: It rings true to me. The racism/white privilege or whatever you want to call it, among the press and some Ds is of the nice polite kind. IMHO its more insidious than the blatant MAGA version. Its paternal. Joe Biden sees minorities as equals something his detractors can’t stomach

  130. 130.

    Dan B

    @Trollhattan: Thanks for the data reminder.  Everything is bigger, even the gluttony and wastefulness.

    Washington state is facing a shortage of hydro power by 2030 (don’t quote me, re. date)  Because of cheap rates there are lots of Dara centers moving in.  There’s lots of potential for solar PV but winter days are very short.  Fortunately for eastern WA, where the data centers are being built, winters are cold which means less need for expensive cooling.  Batteries or power storage that lasts six months would be ideal.

  131. 131.

    Jay

    @TBone:

    Between the Billionaires, PAC’s and Citizen’s United,  The Extremes, some parts of the US Government are for sale.

  132. 132.

    stinger

    OP: “Can we maybe not talk about you know what in this thread?”

    Surprised how many BJers apparently can’t read. Or is it Nobody tells me what to do/WaterGirl isn’t the boss of me?

  133. 133.

    prostratedragon

    My memory could be faulty, but I don’t recall any incumbent President running for re-election being expected to dig the Erie Canal on top of presidential duties this early in the campaign.

  134. 134.

    Jackie

    @CaseyL: I believe he had “rebound Covid” following that, but not since then?

    I was thinking just a few days ago that Biden and Harris should be masking up at events. THEN I realized they can’t without looking weak, and in Biden’s case “fragile” to all who think he should step down. 😡

    NOT to mention what hay TCFG and the GQP would be saying and insinuating should Biden mask up. 😡😡

  135. 135.

    Chris Johnson

    @Jay: Shockingly, Loony Jackson MD seems to have lied.

    I guess my question then is, what is he hiding with such a flagrantly obvious lie?

    Oh, wait. Baby goats! That’s right. In fairness they are more sensible than THIS other crap that won’t leave us alone.

  137. 137.

    Jay

    @TBone:

    With early detection, being fully vaxxed and Platinum medical care,……………..

    What makes it really a BFD is all the Biden trolls will be back in every thread and media.

  138. 138.

    Ruckus

    @Chris Johnson:

    According to the reports I’ve seen it was a glancing blow to the inside tip of his ear. Bleeds a lot there and it may have taken some skin from the inside of the ear so there will be bleeding. He did get shot at not a too distant range, it could have been a lot more serious wound and will likely bleed for a bit of time. And of course bleeding time is also based upon the patient’s health at the time of the incident and the patient’s particular bleed rate, BP and how much actual damage was done. Without seeing the wound and knowing the patient’s history and health none of us know all that much more than we see in the press, other than some areas of the human body bleed a lot more than others. I’ve been stabbed in the forearm with a fork, over 1/2 inch deep and I didn’t bleed at all noticeably or internally and I had/have zero scar and the pain was mostly anger at the person with the fork. But no vessels were breached, no muscle or nerves hit. I also worked for many decades in machine shops, where cuts/wounds were regular occurrences. If you can cut metal, you can cut humans. Never had a major wound, can’t recall seeing one but they do happen. Also worked part time as a hobby 30 yrs in motorcycle racing and full time for a decade. I’ve seen a lot of blood leaking out of bodies and what and how the wounds were caused.

  141. 141.

    prostratedragon

    I sense a need for alternative entertainment again this evening. I’ll be checking out TCM’s Corman tribute entries, featuring rising directors: Boxcar Bertha (Scorcese), Targets (Bogdanovich), and Dementia 13 (Coppola), starting at 8 Eastern.

  142. 142.

    BR

    @Jay: ​
    I’ve been 100% supporting Biden but as someone who is half Biden’s age and knowing how hard I (and others my age) have been hit by COVID, I just don’t know that it’s compatible with running the kind of election campaign he needs to run at this point. Even if he pushed himself back out there after a week, there is no way he (or anyone, really) would be in the kind of shape needed to campaign.

  143. 143.

    Jackie

    @Jay: Yah… 🙄😞 I haven’t updated my newly used pie filter. So there’s that 🤷🏼‍♀️

  144. 144.

    Geminid

    @kindness: Virginia does not register by party so all our primaries are totally open. You just pick the ballot for the primary you want to vote in.

    I think Republicans and Democrats stick to their own primaries by and large. Independents* can influence either party’s primary result, and can be tie-breakers when the regular party members are split.

    I don’t think that has created practical problems for Democrats here. We tend to unify around consensus candidates, and don’t put much energy into intra-party fights. We’re like, what does Tim Kaine think?

    * The Wason Center regularly polls Virginia registered voters and among other questions they ask people to self-identify as to party affiliation. The results are fairly stable over time, with Democrats around 35% and Independents around 32%.

    Republicans come in around 30 or 31%. This is a comeback from the February, 2021 poll showing them down to 26%. That poll was taken 5 weeks after the January 6th attack right across the Potomac.

    Foungkin’ Youngkin helped the comeback, I think. His win was a big morale booster for Republicans here.

    Fun Wason Center fact: Rachel Bitecofer had a big role in their poll design when she was on the Christopher Newport University faculty. She left CNU in the Spring of 2020.

  145. 145.

    kindness

    Come on!  Covid isn’t going to kill Joe.  It’ll keep him inside for a week.

    Some people seem to like pissing their pants.

  146. 146.

    SiubhanDuinne

    We know Biden phoned TCFFG shortly after the shooting, to say how sorry he was and wish him a full recovery. Wonder if TCFFG will return the courtesy.

  147. 147.

    bbleh

    @Chris Johnson: concur. It would have been different in nature and worse in degree

    I think the “teleprompter shrapnel” hypothesis at least is plausible.

  150. 150.

    BR

    @kindness: ​
    Just speaking from personal experience, I don’t buy the idea he or anyone will be at 100% in a week. I know many people in their 30s and 40s who were flat on their back from COVID (even with Paxlovid in many cases) for a month or more. Some were back to 50% after a week, but it still took a month to really recover, and many ended up with long COVID.

  151. 151.

    Ruckus

    @TBone:

    I like your style!

    I worked in motorsports for as I say above 40 yrs, 30 part time while I worked and full time for the other 10 yrs. I’ve seen pretty much all kinds of wounds, blood, guts and the insides of hospitals. And memorial services. We often would visit participants in the hospital to see how they were doing and how the injuries were caused to see if we could lessen the human damage. I also owned a machine shop or worked in one for quite a few decades where injuries were common, mostly minor but not always. Minor being clean, disinfect, bandage, major in either being an ambulance ride and hospital stay or a memorial service. Fortunately that last step was rarer than one might think. But not never, especially in the motorsports side.

  155. 155.

    bbleh

    @kindness: even willing to say that if it HAD to happen, it couldn’t happen at a better time, when the media are agog over the RNC and Schiff and whatever else.  And he’ll be REQUIRED to relax.

    Can’t people just go do some volunteer work or write some postcards or something … ?

    (Also, we’re not supposed to be talking about this.  But I do hope someone tears Schiff a couple very painful new orifices.  More than one someone, in fact.)

  156. 156.

    Princess

    Ugh, Covid. Could be worse though – at least it’s happening during the RNC convention. And once he has it, he won’t have it again before the election. My 90 year old in laws had it recently and with paxlovid, they were only symptomatic for a few days.

  160. 160.

    Ironcity

    @Captain C: There is a federal court in San Antonio, or at least was, that did all the traffic tickets on military bases.  She could that.

  161. 161.

    M31

    lol the online speculation is so funny “No one gets tested any more so Biden must have had really severe symptoms”

    Also, can’t wait for breathless insistence on access to detailed medical records on Biden, meanwhile Trump is allowed to issue press releases from a pilldispensing weirdo that are dutifully reprinted.

    Biden will go home and rest and be fine. He can prepare some fireside chat ads reading from Project 2025.

  162. 162.

    Ruckus

    @Scout211:

    And also sweet is all the legal experts who are predicting that not only will the dismissal be overturned but Cannon might just get removed.

    Awww, what a shame….. Not. Seems to me she played it out for as long as she could and then there were only 2 ways left to go, trial or dismissal. I’m seriously doubting that had the trial happened she would have called it effectively any different and this way she might be kicked off the bench. I’m going with not bloody likely though. But. Stranger things have happened. May this be a strange time.

  163. 163.

    Hilbertsubspace

    @BR: I had Covid twice* and was asymptomatic both times.  I’m not 81, but I am old.

    *March 2020, December 2021

  164. 164.

    tam1MI

    @SiubhanDuinne:Oh crap. President Biden has just tested positive for Covid.

    The sound you just heard was the Coup D’Etat Caucus jizzing themselves with glee.

  165. 165.

    caphilldcne

    @Ruckus: I think that’s removed from the case, not the bench although if we had any kind of ethical congress she’d  be impeached along with the Trump v US majority on the Supreme Court, half the 5th circuit and that judge in Amarillo. It pains me that she’s a Michigan law grad. (I went as an undergrad but still).

  166. 166.

    Jackie

    @Jackie: Great. The GQP is already doubting Biden has Covid. Calling it a conspiracy to replace Joe on the ticket.

    Meanwhile, the Dems are ready to make the GQP sound correct.

    As President Joe Biden tries to convince Americans he’s strong enough to run for a second term, news that the Democrat caught COVID-19 drew swift reaction from supporters worried he looked “fragile” even before the diagnosis, and from those on the right theorizing this could be a ploy to swap him for someone with better odds in the presidential race.

    https://www.rawstory.com/biden-2668764817/

  167. 167.

    Ruckus

    @Ceci n est pas mon nym:

    Wait til you get OLD and parts decide that working is beyond the needs of a human being. An example would be my sense of smell. Or rather complete lack of a working one. I breathe just fine, my sense of smell OTOH has gone way past dysfunctional to don’t even bother, the results are always nothing. Now there are times when that isn’t as bad as it sounds……. Use your imagination.

  171. 171.

    trnc

    @kindness: ​
     

    Come on! Covid isn’t going to kill Joe. It’ll keep him inside for a week.

    We’ll see, but for context, the Biden campaign claimed that the poor debate performance was due to jet lag for travel that took place almost 2 weeks prior.

  172. 172.

    BR

    @Omnes Omnibus: ​
    Yes, actually Long COVID is more likely for younger folks. Folks over 65 are less likely to get Long COVID but more likely to have problems from the acute phase of COVID. For younger folks the acute phase is less harmful but there are greater chances of lingering problems.

  173. 173.

    Ruckus

    @caphilldcne:

    She’s done just about zero on the case to this point, I’m actually amazed that she didn’t do this earlier.

    Now I believe that as she just ended the case that involved the person that put her on the bench she should be discharged/fired. She should have recused long ago, because of that. But then she wouldn’t be her would she?

  174. 174.

    MisterForkbeard

    @Omnes Omnibus: It is what it is. He’ll either recover quickly from it (like he has in the past) or he won’t. He’ll definitely have the best care.

    I do think that if he comes out of Covid and isn’t feeling well, he’ll bow out. But as always, that’ll be up to Biden and I trust him to make that decision overall.

  175. 175.

    TooManyJens

    @Jackie: Great. The GQP is already doubting Biden has Covid. Calling it a conspiracy to replace Joe on the ticket.

    Well, of course they are. Fuck ’em.

  177. 177.

    tam1MI

    @BR: I just don’t know that it’s compatible with running the kind of election campaign he needs to run at this point.

    Which he wouldn’t have had to do if it weren’t for the Coup D’Etat Caucus.

  178. 178.

    BR

    @MisterForkbeard:

    @Omnes Omnibus: It is what it is. He’ll either recover quickly from it (like he has in the past) or he won’t. He’ll definitely have the best care.

    I do think that if he comes out of Covid and isn’t feeling well, he’ll bow out. But as always, that’ll be up to Biden and I trust him to make that decision overall.

    I agree. This is the right take. I take it seriously, but hope that he is as well and self evaluates in a week.

  179. 179.

    trnc

    @Jackie: ​
     

    The GQP is already doubting Biden has Covid. Calling it a conspiracy to replace Joe on the ticket.

    Not sure what the conspiracy would be, so just stirring the pot, I guess. It’s not like Biden can’t just decide to drop out any time before the nomination and cite recent health concerns.

  180. 180.

    rikyrah

     

    Monique Pressley (@MoniquePressley) posted at 4:52 PM on Wed, Jul 17, 2024:

    Finally, it is not lost on the many Black voters with whom I’ve spoken directly that we would have NOTHING, not a right to vote, or to own property, or to get an education, or to sit at the same counter with other races for a meal—not one civil right whatsoever—if those who fought before us and FOR us had walked away from the fight because they didn’t like our odds, if they had resigned themselves to defeat because we were outnumbered, if they refused to put full weight and energy behind a candidate because they were flawed or weren’t aligned on every issue or would have to be carried across the finish line. WE, who only breathe a modicum of free air today because of the grit and determination and resilience and never-give-up overcoming spirit of our ancestors, are made in THAT mold. As our @VP often says—it has ALWAYS been a fight. The time is now to take the stance of those who are on the right side of history and know it. Those who want to leave the earth better for our children—in country where they are both safe and free.

    (https://x.com/MoniquePressley/status/1813693328094789700?s=02)

  181. 181.

    Enhanced Voting Techniques

    Apparent people don’t understand how diseases work. The COVID is a lot more mild than the COVID in 2020.

  182. 182.

    Martin

    Just getting off of my first round with Covid, having it stacked on top of a sinus infection. Ms Martin recovering from her 2nd round.

  184. 184.

    Jackie

    Has this been posted? MENENDEZ IS RESIGNING!

    Sen. Bob Menendez (D-NJ) has told allies that he will resign from Congress after being convicted on federal corruption charges, NBC News reports.

    “Menendez, who had been defiant for months in the face of calls from dozens of Senate Democrats to resign, appears to have finally relented after the guilty verdict and growing threats to expel him if he refused.”

  185. 185.

    tam1MI

    @trnc:Not sure what the conspiracy would be

    They don’t have to make up a conspiracy, there already is one!  The Coup D’Etat Caucus has made it easy to claim that Joe Biden will be lying when he steps aside and is only doing so to placate them.  Which will have the added benefit of probably being true.

  186. 186.

    BR

    @Enhanced Voting Techniques: ​
    It really isn’t. The current COVID does benefit from immunity, but immunity is quite poor these days because the virus evolves fast. The only thing we have going for us is that we have treatments. That prevents severe illness but nothing beyond that.

  187. 187.

    japa21

    @Omnes Omnibus: Hell, I had COVID at age 75, with a history of smoking for 52 years and 2 recent bouts of pneumonia.  I was fine after a week.  In fact, I was doing pretty well after 3 days on Paxlovid.  My point being, there is no way to predict how one’s body is going to handle it.

  188. 188.

    trnc

    @tam1MI: ​
     

    Which he wouldn’t have had to do if it weren’t for the coup D’Etat Caucus.

    In every single case, he has been urged to drop out. That is the opposite of a coup.

    I’ve bounced back and forth a bit on what would be our best bet for the election. This morning, I wrote that based on strong interviews, press conference, etc, he looks fine and the replacement discussion should be dropped barring another significant event. Maybe he gets through this without a problem, but it’s not a given.

    This is the time to have this discussion – before the nomination. I strongly believe that zero voters will change their vote based on having this discussion. The only thing that will matter in November is the voters’ perception of the candidate, whomever it is.

  190. 190.

    Belafon

    We should all declare Biden as God’s  most favorite of the candidates for surviving it twice.

  191. 191.

    M31

    normies: “Well, Biden is off self isolating, might as well see what’s up with Trump and his buddies, OH MY LAWD”

  194. 194.

    Another Scott

    WhiteHouse.gov:

    JULY 17, 2024
    Statement from Press Secretary Karine Jean-Pierre

    Earlier today following his first event in Las Vegas, President Biden tested positive for COVID-19. He is vaccinated and boosted and he is experiencing mild symptoms. He will be returning to Delaware where he will self-isolate and will continue to carry out all of his duties fully during that time. The White House will provide regular updates on the President’s status as he continues to carry out the full duties of the office while in isolation.

    Note from the President’s Doctor:

    The President presented this afternoon with upper respiratory symptoms, to include rhinorhea (runny nose) and non-productive cough, with general mailaise. He felt okay for his first event of the day, but given that he was not feeling better, point of care testing for COVID-19 was conducted, and the results were positive for the COVID-19 virus. Given this, the President will be self-isolating in accordance with CDC guidance for symptomatic individuals. PCR confirmation testing will be pending. His symptoms remain mild, his respiratory rate is normal at 16, his temperature is normal at 97.8 and his pulse oximetry is normal at 97%. The President has received his first dose of Paxlovid. He will be self-isolating at his home in Rehoboth.

    ###

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  196. 196.

    Fair Economist

    @Trollhattan: I love checking out the California energy outlook page. I swear, they’re adding batteries so fast you can see it change month to month. And the boom in battery placements is going to support a boom in solar, which supports a boom in batteries which..

    I love virtuous cycles.

  204. 204.

    trnc

    Question – how many people have to use the Text option when posting? For the last few months, I have to use the text option about 90% of the time.

  205. 205.

    BR

    Oy, Schumer is apparently pushing Biden to drop out. Not public but if all the outlets have the story at the same time then it was a purposeful leak.

  211. 211.

    NotMax

    @trnc

    100% of the time. But then, because of the way I usually have my browser configured there is no other option open to me here.

  212. 212.

    Another Scott

    @trnc: I use it 99% of the time, but I write my own HTML tags.

    The times I don’t are when I get distracted and don’t click the “Text” tab first…

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  214. 214.

    Jackie

    This bullshit pisses me off:

    MILWAUKEE — The Trump campaign on Wednesday said it would not commit to a date for a vice presidential debate, suggesting it was still uncertain who would be on the Democratic ticket.

    “We don’t know who the Democrat nominee for Vice President is going to be, so we can’t lock in a date before their convention,” senior Trump campaign adviser Brian Hughes said in a statement. “To do so would be unfair to Gavin Newsom, JB Pritzker, Gretchen Whitmer, or whoever Kamala Harris picks as her running mate.”

    https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4778323-trump-campaign-vice-presidential-debate/

  215. 215.

    Jay

    @trnc:

    I only use the text option when quoting or citing, just because it is easier and less “buggy” when doing so.

  217. 217.

    Scout211

    @Jackie: Ha Ha, this is like their third fake reason to delay the debate.

    Kamala is ready but apparently Vance needs more time to be coached. Or maybe he’s running out the clock.

    Or maybe Vance is just a scaredy cat.  LOL

  218. 218.

    Scout211

    @trnc: how many people have to use the Text option when posting?

    I use the text option 0% of the time.  I’m on iOS or Mac using Chrome.

  219. 219.

    The Kropenhagen Interpretation

    @Jackie: “We don’t know who the Democrat nominee for Vice President is going to be, so we can’t lock in a date before their convention,” senior Trump campaign adviser Brian Hughes said in a statement

    If there was ever any doubt who all this fruitless speculation about a primary facie terrible idea benefits…

  221. 221.

    The Kropenhagen Interpretation

    @trnc: I use the text option when I want to be particular how a link appears in my comment.

  222. 222.

    topclimber

    I say Biden steps down temporarily under terms of 25th amendment, like Poppy Bush did.

    If he’s healthy, he reclaims the job after the two weeks or so a complete recovery might take. Then he hits the campaign trail rested and with maximum goodwill from a  public happy he has recovered. Unlike Dump, most folks like Biden personally.

    Harris gets to be acting president for that time, boosting her profile with the American public. And all the dump Biden movement gets stuck on hold.

    Sure the dump Biden movement may get louder at first (old guy with Covid Cooties!) but it just might also f—k up the pre-scripted narrative because our dimwitted mass media is just not fast on its feet.

  223. 223.

    Ruckus

    @rikyrah:

    10000000% this.

    I was not drafted, I enlisted. Did I really want to? I’d have to say no, not really.

    But. The cards that we are dealt are often not the cards we want.

    But. The cards we have are what we have to play.

    People of color often get, even still, the shitty end of the stick. It is better today than when I was born, which really was not much different for hundreds of years prior to that. We hired a man to be president who was part black. We hired a VP who is black. Now both of them have other bits of background but then so do many of us. Reportedly my grandfather was a mafia enforcer in Sicily who was asked to leave because he was too good at his job. Now he died of a heart attack well before I was born so there is zero possibility to check the truth to this but it, like everything else that has already happened, is at least possible history.

    OTOH, history is NOT the future. We can make it better, we have to make it better. We have made it better. My sister was gay and one of her partners was a black woman. She was a very good friend of mine as well and I knew her long after she and my sister split up. She died of Sickle Cell. Because I believe that the doctor that supposedly treated her did jack and shit for her. The white doctor. Now I’m not sure she could have been saved and I’ve studied medicine a fair bit, but still – he did jack and shit.

    My entire point is that we are ALL humans. We are not all good, decent humans. But the only thing we can do is make this a better place. And that is by doing what the founders of this country wanted. Do Better, Be Better, Be An Actual Human Being, because everyone who is an actual human deserves to be treated the same, like a human, like you want to be treated, no matter skin color, no matter the genitalia, no matter the genitalia you like, no matter the century.

    It has gotten better in my lifetime, it still has a ways to go. Let’s not support assholes like shitforbrains who want to set time backwards centuries. We’ve come too far to fall or run backwards.

    End of rant.

  227. 227.

    SiubhanDuinne

    @Jackie:

    “To do so would be unfair to Gavin Newsom, JB Pritzker, Gretchen Whitmer, or whoever Kamala Harris picks as her running mate.”

    They’re all heart, these guys. God forbid the TCFFG campaign should be unfair to anyone, let alone a Democrat.

  229. 229.

    Captain C

    @BR: I just called Schumer’s office.  Actually two different offices.  The NYC office’s voice mail is full, so I called the Peekskill one which is (I think) the second nearest one to me.  I told them I was disappointed with Schumer’s telling Biden to drop out (if true), that Democrats need to stand together against the horror on the R side of the ballot, and that I thought we were done with this whole Democratic defensive crouch bullshit.

  231. 231.

    WaterGirl

    @topclimber:

    I say Biden steps down temporarily under terms of 25th amendment, like Poppy Bush did.

    I say that’s bullshit.  He has mild symptoms and can completely do the job.

    Geez, you guys are stabbing yourselves and the Dems in the back.

  239. 239.

    WaterGirl

    God himself appeared to Biden in a dream and begged him not to step aside.

    Someone told me that someone else to them that, so it must be true.

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