Come for the politics, stay for the snark.

The willow is too close to the house.

This country desperately needs a functioning fourth estate.

New McCarthy, same old McCarthyism.

Let’s delete this post and never speak of this again.

People really shouldn’t expect the government to help after they watched the GOP drown it in a bathtub.

Wow, you are pre-disappointed. How surprising.

Anyone who bans teaching American history has no right to shape America’s future.

Dear Washington Post, you are the darkness now.

“Perhaps I should have considered other options.” (head-desk)

Since when do we limit our critiques to things we could do better ourselves?

The republican ‘Pastor’ of the House is an odious authoritarian little creep.

Wake up. Grow up. Get in the fight.

Innocent people do not delay justice.

“I was told there would be no fact checking.”

Sitting here in limbo waiting for the dice to roll

If you are still in the gop, you are either an extremist yourself, or in bed with those who are.

Yeah, with this crowd one never knows.

There are more Russians standing up to Putin than Republicans.

If rights aren’t universal, they are privilege, not rights.

It’s all just conspiracy shit beamed down from the mothership.

Historically it was a little unusual for the president to be an incoherent babbling moron.

There are a lot more evil idiots than evil geniuses.

It’s a good piece. click on over. but then come back!!

When you’re a Republican, they let you do it.

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This Is How It's Done – Daniel Dale Summarizes & Fact Checks the Speech in Just 2 Minutes

This is how it’s done!

Missed the speech last night?  That’s okay, because Daniel Dale lists the lies and fact checks the speech at the same time.  All in just 2 minutes and 15 seconds!

My favorite part was when Dale listed off yet one more thing lie Trump told – and his response to that one, in total, was “That is imaginary.”

Boy, would I love to see the transcript of that 2:15 minutes!

But since that’s not available, maybe everyone who clicks to watch the video can add one lie, and its fact check, in a comment.  Shouldn’t take long to crowd source this, so even people who can’t / won’t click on a video in twitter can witness this thing of beauty!

Start the video at 15 seconds mark to skip the 15 seconds of Trump and go immediately to Daniel Dale and his combination summary and fact checking rebuttals.

This is how it’s done!

(Mostly) Open thread.  Plenty of other threads where you can talk about will he or won’t he, should he or shouldn’t he.  Just not this one.

Oh, and this was fun!

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  1. 1.

    WaterGirl

    It seems to me that the Daniel Dale fact-checking video tweet would be a great one to share on social media, or send to friends and family.

  2. 2.

    WereBear

    I’m glad I work for myself because it’s tough getting anything else done. I guess I could yell at me, but then I’d dislike me.

  3. 3.

    Archon

    This might FINALLY be the straw that broke the camels back for the media to the idea that Trump could change into a unity candidate.

    If a guy won’t change from a bullet missing him by half an inch, nothing will.

  5. 5.

    trollhattan

    BBC has been over the top fawning over Trump since Eargate, so it’s nice to see them performing a fact check re. his Castro-length nighttime rant.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cglk87d817zo

    TBF UK, EU and NATO are all scrambling to position themselves in case of a Trump win. They take November more seriously than these Ohio diner customers.

  6. 6.

    mr perfect

    Shakey Jake doesn’t look pleased how Daniel Dale is pointing out what a pathological liar the Orange One is.

  7. 7.

    RevRick

    Went for my annual blood work this morning, and as I arrived at the lab, a woman exiting informed me I needed a paper copy of my script as the computer system was down and, in fact, affected airlines and banks too. Turned around, called my doctor’s office, got a copy of the bloodwork needed, and headed back to the lab. The women drawing blood all agreed that this was going to be a massive headache for the lab analysts.
    Glad I’m not flying today.

  9. 9.

    NotMax

    Played phone tag with my new cigar supplier. Cutting it close as on Fridays they’re open only from 9 to noon Eastern time. However they did call back to assure me the reorder would ship out today.

  10. 10.

    Omnes Omnibus

    I just called Pocan’s office again.  This time I was registering my “disappointment, bordering on disgust” that he would join in trying to kneecap our best chance of winning in November.

  14. 14.

    Ruckus

    @WereBear:

    You know, some days I almost wish that I still worked. But then I wake up and realize that while I liked my job, being retired is nicer. Very, very rarely do I need an alarm in the am, or pm, very rarely do I have to be any where at a certain time, etc. It does have a calming effect on life. Sure on occasion it can be slightly boring but being a geezer even helps with that. I never would have imagined that concept 2 or 3 yrs ago.

  15. 15.

    Captain C

    @WereBear:

    Trump is going to keep making it obvious until everyone gets it.

    I do not share your pessimism that he will outlive Pinch the Lesser, as Nepo Newsie will never, ever get it in his lifetime (otherwise he’d sell the FTFNYT, give away the proceeds to charity, and become a self-abasing hermit far away from any decent people).

  16. 16.

    M31

    @Steve LaBonne: ​
     

    that is very good

    I wish it would be pointed out that any time Trump says anything resembling a policy or a plan that it’s complete nonsense

  17. 17.

    WereBear

    @Ruckus: I am retired early by Pandemic, but I still have a full time job running my cat/book business.

    But this year, it’s fallen off. People are nervous and not spending money.

  18. 18.

    Tony G

    @RevRick: My analysis as a (former) operating system support specialist: Goddamn Microsoft outsourced their change control procedure to an incompetent goddamn subcontractor, who did not bother to put into place an automated procedure to back out a bad upgrade that they goddamn had not bothered to test adequately.  If the Invisible Hand actually existed, then Microsoft would go bankrupt soon.  Instead …

  19. 19.

    Tony G

    @Tony G: My understanding is that Microsoft is now blaming Crowdstrike for the debacle.  Wrong.  The executives at Microsoft made a decision to outsource a critical procedure to this dumb-ass subcontractor. It’s the fault of those executives.

  20. 20.

    wjca

    Someone should point out to TCFG that, when it comes to long speeches, he’s still a piker.  Refer him to Senator Strom Thurmond’s filibuster in the early 60s.  Close to 24 hours on his feet and talking, as I recall.  There’s a record for him to shoot for — become the greatest ever!

  21. 21.

    Ruckus

    @mr perfect:

    I know for sfb lying is like breathing, constant, unending, idiotic, but at least he’s consistent….

    Give him a break, would you be able or unable to understand the difference between any kind of truth or pure bullshit with his brain? I don’t think so. This poor excuse for a whatever the hell he is, because while sure it’s human, it really is a rather poor excuse for one. Maybe he’s always thinking about money because he thinks with enough money he can BUY a functional brain. Doesn’t seem to have worked out so far….

  22. 22.

    The Kropenhagen Interpretation

    @Tony G: Subcontracting is an excuse to offload expenses and pass money around between executives. I recently got delayed starting a job for a month because of just this type of BS.

  23. 23.

    Jeffro

    Just checking in to remind everyone that Lou Dobbs is hanging out with Rush Limbaugh for their first full day of eternity together.  =)

  25. 25.

    Ruckus

    @WereBear:

    This is a country of well over 300 million people. Some of them are never going to get it, never, never, ever going to understand. It could be explained in the plainest language possible, using charts and possibly swear words and they wouldn’t get it. They do not want to get IT. They won’t allow the obvious into their tiny minds.

  29. 29.

    Ken

    @trollhattan: The three of them might be in different circles of Hell, though you could make a strong case for the Eighth Circle, either as fraudulent counselors or sowers of discord.

  30. 30.

    wjca

    @Tony G: did not bother to put into place an automated procedure to back out a bad upgrade that they goddamn had not bothered to test adequately.

    I don’t know what the bug was.  So I can’t say how culpable the failure of testing to find it was.  Users can do some screwball stuff that simply wouldn’t occur to a developer.  (I know from being the one in charge of QA.  I’m careful to avoid learning too much about a new product, so as not to limit my creativity.  And I still don’t catch everything.)

    But failure to have a backout procedure set up, and on an instant tripwire?  That’s just . . . “incompetent” doesn’t begin to describe it.  Massive dereliction/negligence and failure to follow even the most basic of long established (like half a century, in my personal experience) standards is more like it.

    After something like this, nobody should buy anything from that contractor ever again.  Nor hire someone who worked there without extremely careful vetting, to make sure they were nowhere near the development and testing.  (And, obviously, never, ever hire someone who was a manager there.)  It’s just too basic negligence.

  32. 32.

    Jeffro

    George Conway is tweeting out an old RS article about trumpov’s obvious NPD.

    (obvious, that is, once you realize that trumpov’s wealth and subsequent fame have shielded him from the consequences of his NPD, which is a requirement for a formal diagnosis)

    Why trump is Mentally Unfit to Lead

    “…specifically, Miller believes that Trump’s wealth could have shielded him from impairment that would otherwise be more pronounced. “He gets to present himself as an incredible businessman despite multiple bankruptcies, despite lots of signs that he is not as astute or as successful as he might be otherwise,” Miller says. “We might know more about his relational functioning if his ex-wives didn’t sign the sort of thing where getting a nice sum of money from a divorce is contingent upon not discussing the person’s behavior. He’s able to keep sycophants around him because of his money. If he was your average politician, it might be that the impairment would be much, much more apparent.”

    Shorter (stop me if you’re heard this before): if he wasn’t rich and famous, no one would let this clown manage a McDonald’s.  With apologies to McDs managers.

  35. 35.

    GregMulka

    The crowdstrike Falcon agent, a third party app installed on a virtual or physical machine, is causing Microsoft OSes to bluescreen. This isn’t something MS installed. It’s something companies using Azure to host virtual servers installed. Microsoft isn’t responsible, just like Amazon isn’t responsible, for maintaining your environment that’s hosted in their cloud. They give you a sandbox. What you do in that sandbox is up to you.

    I don’t want to defend Microsoft, but in this instance, they didn’t fuck up. If you have a virtual MS box hosted on AWS, and installed crowdstrike falcon, and it updated to the new agent, It would also crash.

    This is the very large, very reputable, cybersecurity company’s fault. They wrote a bad patch and didn’t adequately test it. After that, rolling back the patch is Crowdstrike’s and their customers responsibility. If those companies don’t have adequate means to roll it back, that’s on them. Not MS.

  36. 36.

    Chris Johnson

    @Ruckus: The neat thing is, even with those people it’s possible for Trump and his team to fuck it up.

    I’m not sure we’ve fully registered the consequences of one thing that seemed to drop out of sight awful quick: the day of the Trump shooting, part of the narrative was that the Republicans checked a list they kept of gun owners to try and find information on the shooter.

    It’s always projection, but this one’s a doozy.

    THEY keep a list of gun owners and where they live.

    That is flat out the gun nut’s worst nightmare, and looky here, that’s who actually keeps the list that can be used to go door to door and seize everything! Turns out it ain’t us Dems after all! They just up and said it.

    I really wonder if that admission can prove useful. I’m not even sure I disagree with such a list, in the abstract. I am sure, however, that if the Russian controlled Trump campaign kept such a list it would be to go seize the weapons from the ‘RINOs’ and anyone who had ever challenged them.

    And looky there, apparently the campaign HAS a list. Curious. Maybe they’ll let us have it! :D

  38. 38.

    Eyeroller

    @Tony G: This is totally on CloudStrike.  CloudStrike is not integral to Windows.  I have two Windows systems that are working fine because I don’t run the CloudStrike client on them.  But a lot of corporate systems use it.

    What seems to have happened is that CloudStrike pushed out an update to their server process, which runs on Azure, that can’t properly communicate with its Windows client.  Mac and Linux clients are unaffected.  So the instant a user does anything that might initiate a security scan (CloudStrike is security software) it will freeze or crash the user’s computer.

  39. 39.

    Tony G

    @wjca: Absolutely.  An old anecdote from an old geezer: On my first day in operating system (mainframe CICS) support in 1986 (after my nine years as an application developer) my manager (a very tough woman) pulled me into her office and explained how things were going to be — in a short, profanity-laden lecture.  The gist of the lesson was that she didn’t care how often I f***ed up in a production implementation AS LONG AS I HAD A TESTED FALLBACK PROCEDURE THAT I COULD QUICKLY USE TO BACK OUT ANY BAD CHANGES.  If, on the other hand, an error occurred without a fallback procedure, I would be bounced out the door immediately.  A smart lesson from a smart woman.

  40. 40.

    Mr. Bemused Senior

    @wjca: But failure to have a backout procedure set up, and on an instant tripwire?  That’s just . . . “incompetent” doesn’t begin to describe it.

    @Tony G: The gist of the lesson was that she didn’t care how often I f***ed up in a production implementation AS LONG AS I HAD A TESTED FALLBACK PROCEDURE THAT I COULD QUICKLY USE TO BACK OUT ANY BAD CHANGES.

    Amazing, isn’t it, that in the year 2024 people still don’t know how to run a production system?

    And we’re heading backwards. Remember when telephones were reliable?

  41. 41.

    Tony G

    @Eyeroller: Interesting details — thank you.   Yes, Cloudstrike screwed up royally.  But — from my geezer perspective — Microsoft was also to blame — especially given Microsoft’s enormous resources.  When a company chooses to outsource a critical I.T. function it is the responsibility of that company to make sure ahead of time that the procedures work.  With enough money (which Microsoft has) it can be done.  Those (very-highly-paid) kids better get off my lawn!

     

    @Eyeroller:

  43. 43.

    Bill Arnold

    @Eyeroller:
    Some years ago (2018/2019) I was working in the CTO’s team for a large very old multinational computer/services company. At one point I was tasked with arranging for the automated install of Crowdstrike’s Falcon (from memory at least) on new (Linux) VMs deployed by a cloud service. After much frustration about Falcon appearing to me to to do nothing, we learned that the sensor lagged the kernel by up to weeks; it had tendrils that needed to be customized for each new kernel. I.e. kernel security patches broke Falcon. Made some waves. That was years ago, though. I have not trusted them since.

  44. 44.

    greenergood

    Was listening to Trump’s rant early Friday morning (4 am, BBC time) – the coverage cut out around 4.30 am and then came back for @ 5.00 am for the last 10 or so minutes until the end of the rant – but I was most struck by a phrase that he used ‘that we must be united under a single faith’ – I looked at the NYT transcipt, wasn’t there – I watched the last 10 minutes of the rant, and the phrase wasn’t there – but when I mentioned it to my friend tonight, she too heard it distinctly and was alarmed when she heard it on Thursday morning @ 5 am Scotland time. Does anyone else have evidence of this phrase? I find it very alarming, and a dog whistle to the people who would happily destroy a multi-cultural society to acheive Christo-nationalism.

  45. 45.

    Eyeroller

    @Bill Arnold: Was that a server daemon?  I was assuming CrowdStrike (got the correction this time) was running on Windows Server OS, but could be they’re still using Linux VMs.  But it’s pretty obviously some kind of client-server problem since they say MacOS and Linux clients are unaffected.

    If they’re using a VM system a huge number of things could go wrong, including bad kernel patches. Just recently an Australian pension fund nearly lost all its data due to a VM farm being accidentally nuked (and its backup as well–the only reason they survived was they had a backup on a completely different service). That was on Google Cloud, not Azure.

  46. 46.

    SteverinoCT

    @Tony G: Curiously enough, I just had a couple of interesting MS Update issues. I have multiple PCs (I tend to keep the old after I upgrade, and I’m not fond of VMs) and one of six (incl. 2 laptops) on the monthly big update hung: it was “reloading” on and on. In my youth I was impatient, but since this wasn’t actually in use, I just let it go all day. Finally I did a power-off-reset, and it STILL hung. Fine. I eventually shut it down using the power. Next cycle, ANOTHER PC, also light-use, did the same. I let it run for days, with an occasional POR. Then it suddenly said the update was interrupted and it would reverse the install. And hung. This time, the cursor was visible, and every now and then would show an hourglass. Finally after a few days another POR, and this time it came up. I reinstalled the OS from the cloud, and it is humming along: it even took the update. So I fired up the first machine, and after some kvetching, it came up as well. So, bad that it was such a hassle; good that it fixed itself: I was ready to boot from my recovery thumbdrive and start over.

  48. 48.

    George

    @Jeffro:

     It seems like the belief/meme that Trump is a savvy business man has stopped getting any traction at all in the common consciousness. That claim was part of the mythology that I recall his supporters chirping about.

    After he managed to secure the loyalty of his cult, there no longer was a need for the “Trump the awesome businessman” meme.

  49. 49.

    Urza

    @SteverinoCT: I know its a dead thread but just in case.  Your PC problems have nothing to do with the CrowdStrike issue unless you run it yourself.  Nothing that isn’t corporate should be affected.
    And since no ones likely to read this, mea culpa MS had major issues at the same time but the CrowdStrike problem took the news so yay.  Just a cloud region down but I know one big name restaurant that was down for that and not CrowdStrike.

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