Same as it ever was:
Rep. Maxwell Frost (D-Fla.) on Tuesday lambasted GOP claims that Vice President Harris is in her role because she’s a “DEI hire,” saying that is a cover-up for a racial slur and among “racist dog whistles” being used against her.
“Whenever you hear DEI, I want you to think about the N-word. I want you to think about racial slurs. That’s what they actually mean,” Frost said during a CNN interview Tuesday.
CNN anchor Jim Acosta then asked Frost if Rep. Tim Burchett (R-Tenn.) — who called Harris a “DEI hire” a day earlier, referring to diversity, equity and inclusion — was being racist when he made that remark.
“I have a good relationship with the congressman. I think sometimes, though, he does use rhetoric that is racist. And whether people know it’s racist or not, I’m here to tell them that is racist. And I hope they won’t use that rhetoric anymore,” Frost responded.
It’s who they are.
BretH
Just imagine having to explicitly tell your caucus “please, no blatantly racist stuff!”
The mind reels.
UncleEbeneezer
Kilmead also called Harris’ sorority a “colored” sorority. JFC, what is this, 1963? My racist Grandfather used to say “colored” in the 80’s and even then it was wildly out of date.
WereBear
Next year, they will drop the dog whistles and just call it the Village Nutter Convention. Q’Ville.
Because that is what their legislators are boiling down to.
RepubAnon
The phrase “DEI Hire” means that only white males are fully qualified. How is that not racist/sexist?
WereBear
@UncleEbeneezer: I believe that was “polite” usage in the 1920’s.
Splitting Image
The thing is that “DEI hire” is quite a bit less abstract than even “forced busing”. They are straight out saying that every black person and every woman in public office is unqualified and ought to be replaced by a white man. They are implementing this wherever they have the power to do it.
That isn’t abstract at all.
OId Man Shadow
I mean, yeah. That’s it. Same with referring to someone as an “affirmative action hire.”
And “woke” and “politically correct” are generally euphemisms they use for “N-word lover”.
“Real American” means rural, white, straight, cis Christian man.
dmsilev
@BretH: And what’s worse is that the caucus, by and large, is like “nah, we’re good with the racist talk”.
lamh47
Kamala Harris has released the first video of her presidential campaign, featuring Beyoncé’s song, “Freedom”!
Pretty good ad. And ya know if the campaign is using Beyonce’ song in an ad, Beyonce’ granted permission!!!
Maybe the rumors of Beyonce performing at the DNC could be true.
Welcome to #Kamalot! #IYKYK
https://youtu.be/sHky_Xopyrw?si=IRWNIKtuUeYYUeHU
Wapiti
@UncleEbeneezer: I had an aunt with dementia who said “ghetto people”, after struggling to find a word for Black people (that is, she couldn’t find “Black” in her jumbled mind). I think even in her demented state she wasn’t going to use the word her father used.
Barbara
@Splitting Image: Yeah, when Tommy Turberville asserts that someone is a DEI hire you have to gaze in awe at the depth of the presumption that every white male, however stupid, is more competent than any woman however well-educated or experienced, but especially a “minority.”
Almost Retired
As an employment lawyer I can confidently say that referring to your colleagues as DEI hires and lonely cat ladies would earn you a one way ticket to HR.
WereBear
I have a video response from this Childless Cat Lady.
Am I insulted?
Suzanne
@RepubAnon: I noted in a previous thread: JD Vance is a DEI hire for downwardly mobile white guys.
The McSweeney’s line about “back when America was a great place for men with weak chins” applies here.
waspuppet
@Barbara: Let’s not forget that this is the party that literally worships a broke, senile game show host and a—man, I don’t even know what JD Vance claims to have accomplished in his life.
Barbara
@waspuppet: He has a carefully curated resume.
WereBear
I have an addendum to the Peter Principle, the Peter Jr Corollary, wherein people who never had a competency level still get promoted.
coin operated
Posted to my social media:
At the company I work for, if you were to call a co-worker a “DEI Hire”, your final hour that day will be spent with HR going over termination paperwork
If you have to ask why, you’re too stupid to work here in the first place.
SatanicPanic
@coin operated: You’re right, but that’s also why they’re mad.
lamh47
Aye…not ya girl first viral tweet thread! All I did was state some facts.
And all I did was state the 3 facts I know about how history will write about Joe Biden!
Thank you Joe Biden
https://x.com/psddluva4evah/status/1816261301511020614
Barbara
@coin operated: Among other things it tells your employer that you think it is discriminating on the basis of a protected status.
Jeffg166
Being raised a good little catholic boy in the 1950s DEI means god to me. DEI is latin for god. I had to look up the current meaning. I was wondering why the GQP suddenly hated god.
Mr. Bemused Senior
Others have observed and I will just repeat, the mask has been ripped off. Any pretence of “the importance of character” is long gone.
This is what we can expect from now on.
lamh47
@lamh47:
Oh and another tweet from last night hit pretty big.
Thanking Symone D. Sanders Townsend for what she said after Joe’s speed to all them backstabbers on the MSNBC panel (especially Jen Psaki!)
Here is the full clip of the segment with Symone Sanders. at about the 1:46 mark “he deserved the dignity that the people within his party did not give him”!
https://x.com/SymoneDSanders/status/1816315773872140798
comrade scotts agenda of rage
“DEI Hire” is the 2024 rephrasing of “Affirmative Action”.
But framing it as a dog whistle for the N-word is far more potent, and effective messaging.
One would assume it’ll be one of our standard talking points, particularly when talking to media clowns like Tapper: make them uncomfortable by saying “the N-word” constantly in any interview.
BR
You love to see it — big name tech VCs turning on each other publicly:
https://mstdn.social/@Jonathanglick/112847495834996158
randy khan
Calling Harris a DEI hire is about as transparently racist as you can get without using an actual racial slur. She was a two-term Attorney General of the biggest state in the country, a Senator, and now VP for 3 years. She has more qualifications to be President than the two Republican candidates combined (and that counts Trump’s 4 years in the White House).
3Sice
Villago Delenda Est
“DEI hire” is the new ni*CLANG*.
Kyle Rayner
@lamh47: That vid is all I can think about since I saw it. She’s got SUCH a good, young, meme-aware creative team working for her, and they’re moving FAST. We love to see it.
kindness
Before Trump I thought only 27% of Americans were crazy racists. Then Trump gets elected and the next thing you know all these other racists come crawling out from under the rocks they’d been hiding under. That surprised me. Now I figure roughly 40% of Americans are racists. Worst part about it, Trump made it OK to be out and proud about it. And damn they’re stupid when they speak up.
BR
@Kyle Rayner:
I’m glad that video worked for you all. It didn’t grab me, but I’m definitely not the target swing voter demographic.
BR
@kindness:
Yeah, this has been the worst part about it. Even in the depths of the Bush administration open racism wasn’t this bad.
Villago Delenda Est
@SatanicPanic: White “Christian” cishet males hate being called out for mediocrity. So of course they’re angry.
Hoodie
I’d say the whole “DEI hire” thing shows how bush league they’ve become. It’s a tired retread of “affirmative action hire.” It’s too obviously racist. The ranks of GOP pols are now filled with dopes who couldn’t even be as clever as Atwood. A few of their leaders get that, but the ranks of GOP pols and media personalities are just too stupid to get the message. Perhaps a realization coming out of this is that Dems should be less worried that these kind of attacks will work in the future. I suspect the GOP will resort to more mysogynist and anti-LGBT rhetoric, as that stuff can cross racial lines.
oldgold
This DEI gambit is outrageous. Unfortunately, I am not sure it won’t work to some degree.
What I am sure is not going to work is the childless cat ladies’ line of attack. They are going to pay a significant price for that.
Super Dave
So now they’re admitting they’re too ignorant to know they’re racist.
Mr. Bemused Senior
Some people [e.g., Kamala Harris] learn from experience and some don’t.
Villago Delenda Est
@Kyle Rayner: “We’re Not Going Back” is electrifying the base, and expanding it.
Steve LaBonne
I love how the very dudes who exemplify the unearned success of less than mediocre white dudes are the ones who use this insult.
Villago Delenda Est
@Wapiti: The CFFG/PAB suggested the other day in NC that the military should be run by football coaches. Tuberville is probably at the top of his list.
If you REALLY want to piss off the military, particularly the officer corps, keep it up convicted felon.
WaterGirl
@Almost Retired: Oh my gosh, did Vance or another R talk about Harris supporters or Dems as lonely cat ladies?
hueyplong
@BR: The pacing and editing cuts are consistent with a target audience younger than me, which I think is smart.
Seems kind of obvious, but with hard core partisans locked in and GOPer hopes for Dem partisan demoralization blown up for now, grabbing younger people currently categorized as something less than “likely voters” is a winning move. I’d Dobbs/Roe them to death, seeing as how the only proven successful “poll unwind” topic is that one.
bbleh
@dmsilev: They’re more than just okay with it; they actively LIKE it because they know their base likes it. The base WANTS to say “n***er n***er n***er,” they DON’T want to be criticized for saying it, and they get MAD when somebody does.
This is how the Republican Party has devolved since they embraced a politics of pure anger and bigotry. They have nothing else left now.
cmorenc
My dear late grandmother, b. circa 1900 in eastern NC. in the heart of the Jim Crow era in small-town “polite” society, would use the word “nigrah”, emphasis on the ‘h’, because the full-on N-word was considered the usage of cruder lower strata of white society. She always treated the black folk around her with polite consideration, um… within the framework of small-town racist sicity. She never really changed up to her death in 1982 – but the payoff punch line is that though her fellow white townfolk learned to submerge the overt racism in public, the underlying attitudes did not evolve nearly so much as the superficial surface. And it still bubbles to the surface with some elected officials in red rural/small-town districts 40+ years later.
WaterGirl
@lamh47: Oh my gosh, Twitter hid the ThreadReader version of your post under the heading
RedDirtGirl
@WaterGirl: Vance said a few years ago that the country was being run by childless cat-ladies like Harris and AOC that therefore have no stake in things.
M31
@WaterGirl: it was Vance, in 2021
https://www.msn.com/en-us/tv/news/jennifer-aniston-condemns-jd-vances-cat-ladies-comment-prays-his-daughter-can-have-kids-without-needing-ivf/ar-BB1qCbdx
lol I’ve been posting this picture in response
lowtechcyclist
@Suzanne:
That line’s a keeper!
And back when small furry creatures from Alpha Centauri were real small furry creatures from Alpha Centauri. ;-)
Chris
“Woke” and “politically correct,” also. Both of them are blatantly post-1960s ways of saying what used to be called “[deleted]-lover.”
Elizabelle
@Villago Delenda Est: What is PAB?
Assume the first means Convicted Felon Former Guy.
rikyrah
@Splitting Image:
Not abstract in the least.
WereBear
@M31: Pete scares them. Give him 20 more points in the Veepstakes.
BR
@WaterGirl:
I keep hoping folks leave Twitter for Mastodon and BlueSky before it’s too late. Musk is going to put the full weight of the company and its algorithms against Dems for the election.
Percysowner
With the general consensus being that Harris needs to pick a white male doesn’t that mean her VP will be a DEI pick?
JML
They really think the “DEI hire” framing will be an effective and “acceptable” code-word for the n-word. Sadly, they might be right, because the media sucks and is deeply afraid to call Republicans racist, and the GOP has been demonizing the concept of DEI for years to the point that way too many people think it’s a way to screw over white people. Hopefully, enough democratic electeds won’t be afraid to call it out for being racist AF. (be nice to have a strong cadre of white dude dems calling this shit out as racist too)
Vance is trying his hand at this with his “government paycheck” crack; that’s just a variation on the Atwater playbook: “government paycheck” = “welfare queen”. The facts don’t matter, just the racist dog whistle.
These are really terrible people. Interesting that the House GOP had to send a memo to their members/staff telling everyone to knock it off on the “DEI hire” bit; clearly, they’re afraid it’ll backfire.
rikyrah
@lamh47:
I love the Vice President and the Democrats reclaiming
FREEDOM
ABSOLUTELY
FREEDOM
M31
@Elizabelle: PAB is “Pussy Ass Bitch”(= Trump) which model Chrissy Teigen used in a tweet which Trump asked to get deleted, which was then read in a Congressional Hearing hahahahaha
https://www.rawstory.com/chrissy-teigen-trump-tweet-insult/
WereBear
@Percysowner: Well argued and there’s a Latin term for it.
rikyrah
@lamh47:
LOVED that thread, lamh,
Absolutely on point.
indycat32
@M31: Has it not occurred to anyone that it’s not us childless cat ladies running the country, but the cats themselves? They’ve been plotting this for years!
M31
@BR:
Mastodon is still a bit niche, from what I can tell, but Bluesky is getting more and more content, probably because it is most similar to the old twitter.
The best couch content is on Bluesky, which means something, probably
Yutsano
Wow. I had no idea he was THAT much of a misogynistic and homophobic asshole. Then again he is a Republican so…
M31
@indycat32: SHHHHHH
BR
@M31:
In my experience, for US political memes, BlueSky is better. For everything else Twitter used to provide (truly new and random content from all over the place), Mastodon is better.
Kyle Rayner
@Percysowner: That’s a genuinely hilarious line of thinking. I can picture a whole standup bit.
WereBear
@indycat32: It’s time for Vice President Whiskers!
With a dog VP.
Chris
@cmorenc:
Something I’ve definitely learned as a white guy is that many, possibly most, of my fellow white people, even if they’ve submerged the racism in public, remain convinced that “everybody knows” it’s true, and that everyone around them is only saying differently for social acceptability reasons. Thus, once other people are gone and it’s just between us white people, they suddenly start saying all kinds of hair-raisingly racist shit and are genuinely surprised if you don’t nod along.
AM in NC
@RepubAnon: To her credit, GOP Senator Murkowski smacked that down HARD using that exact idea – “so are we saying everyone who isn’t a white man is automatically a DIE hire? No. That’s wrong” or words very close to that.
Keep driving the wedges.
M31
@indycat32: lol yeah, it wasn’t Commander biting all those SS agents, it was Willow and the dog got blamed, classic cat deviousness
KatKapCC
@lamh47: Amen!
prostratedragon
@WaterGirl: Yesss!💥
Etsy’s already on it.
Steve LaBonne
@indycat32: I for one welcome our new cat overlords. (Our 20 lb emperor of the household is sitting next to me and made me type that.)
rikyrah
Did the FrontPagers find that excellent commentary from Maya Wiley yesterday on Nicole Wallace’s show? She was absolutely on fire. I’m going to try and find it.
WereBear
@Chris: That has a definite chilling vibe, like a co-worker I once liked, going all Resident Evil.
lamh47
@BR: The video is young, energetic and includes a song by one of the biggest if not THE biggest cross generational pop artist currently.
It’s a good video for the audience she’s targeting and using Beyonce’s covers at least 3 or more generations attention.
There’s a good reason why she’s using that particular Beyonce’s song as well.
Omnes Omnibus
@Chris: It’s actually horrifying. The first few times it happened to me, I mentally went through every word I had ever said to that person to figure out what I had said that would make them think I would welcome that kind of shit. I later realized that they just believed that all white people thought that way.
indycat32
@M31: Oh no! I’ve let the cat out of the bag!
rikyrah
In addition to FREEDOM,
I completely believe that the Vice President needs to turn
” Kamala is a Cop” on its ear. Lean into it.
Yes. I’m for justice. I’m for right. I was a Prosecutor. And I went after FELONS…like the one in the other party.
Do a complete Uno Reverse on Law and Order with these clowns.
hueyplong
@M31: I’ve yet to meet a childless cat (or small dog) lady that wasn’t nice or at least well-intentioned. Only assholes find Vance’s argument compelling or funny, but he exists as a current thing purely because he acts like a conscienceless SS climber and therefore Thiel’s dream cat’s paw.
lamh47
@WaterGirl: Ooh…Elon be playing games sometimes.
I never know how any of that stuff works anymore.
KatKapCC
@Super Dave: I think you’re misreading this a bit. Frost is a young Black man talking about another Congressman. I think he’s trying to be a bit civil and not outright say “Dude’s a massive racist” and getting in a dig by noting that people often play innocent and insist they didn’t know something was racist.
EarthWindFire
@M31: Pretty bold of JD to suggest he and his fellow Republican men are better company than cats.
WereBear
@EarthWindFire: And they are mistaken.
oldgold
The Swift fans and Jennifer Anniston are not happy with the Childless Cat Ladies’ gambit.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/entertainment/celebrities/2024/07/24/taylor-swift-jd-vance-childless-cat-ladies/74525531007/
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/jennifer-aniston-slams-jd-vance-childless-cat-ladies-comment-resurface-rcna163633
hueyplong
@KatKapCC: Even reading Frost’s comments in hindsight, I wouldn’t change a word.
M31
@EarthWindFire: they’ve already failed the bear test, might as well move on to something smaller
BR
@lamh47:
I believe you. I grew up in such a different cultural bubble that musically I don’t listen to almost anything anyone else does, so this stuff just doesn’t resonate with me. But I’m not the intended audience, so I trust your analysis.
schrodingers_cat
@Chris: The same in India with respect to Muslims and Dalits. RWNJs of the RSS kind say the nastiest shit because they think you will agree with them.
Mr. Bemused Senior
@indycat32: Fluffy’ s Master Plan for World Domination
🎶
rikyrah
@rikyrah:
The Leadership Conference
@civilrightsorg
We’re not going to the back of the bus.![]()
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https://x.com/civilrightsorg/status/1816233052810485769
@mayawiley
encourages voters to make sure their voices are heard because our democracy is for everyone – not a select few.
rikyrah
Little Italy Fotografia![]()
@LittleItalyPics
This was a powerful moment today. Thank you Maya Wiley!
@mayawiley
#DeadlineWhiteHouse
https://x.com/LittleItalyPics/status/1816210641486512633
rikyrah
Lyndon Baines Johnson
@lyndonbajohnson
Beshear is a golf-shirt wearing, mini-van driving dad, who’d love his kid if they came out as gay or trans, and wouldn’t mind his son or daughter bringing a Black date home for dinner. The sonofabitch is a walking swing state.
https://x.com/lyndonbajohnson/status/1815922134742442227
Duke of Clay
When I worked at an Ivy League school, I was counted as a diversity hire. Solid blue collar background, first in my family to graduate college. And I was a white boy from Mississippi. DEI isn’t a method for promoting unqualified black and brown people. It is a way to find talented people of whatever race that are overlooked by the traditional means of college admission and hiring. And Frost is dead on about DEI being the new substitute for the n-word. Having been raised in segregated Mississippi in the ’50s and ’60s, I recognized what it was the first time I heard it from a Republican’s lips.
zhena gogolia
@lamh47: Love it!
Suzanne
@Chris:
This is true. And it’s not just race.
I remember this incident when I worked in a retail store. I was assisting a woman at the cash register, and another woman walked in. The woman who I was ringing up looked over at this woman, who wasn’t interacting with her in any way, and then turned back to me and started talking about this woman’s weight and her clothes. And she just assumed that I would want to join in fat-shaming a stranger. I was so shocked that I could not respond.
schrodingers_cat
Vance VP to the tune of Dancing Queen is pretty pointed and funny.
prostratedragon
@Mr. Bemused Senior: That is hilarious, how am I just now hearing it?
Peke Daddy
Make it a twofer. Make DEI stand for sexist and misogynistic, too.
rikyrah
Sam Cornale
@samcornale
Joe Biden is a fundamentally good and decent man. He’s been an even more incredible president. Today, all across Wilmington and Scranton, two of the places that made him the man we are so proud of, these billboards are up.
Thank you,
@JoeBiden
. We’ll bring this one home for you
https://x.com/samcornale/status/1816267115059634443
Chris
@Omnes Omnibus:
Oh, I went straight to your last sentence as my first assumption. Which probably doesn’t say the best things about my self-awareness. But I still think it’s true.
And it’s getting truer as entire generations of conservatives grow up who’ve existed in a Fox News bubble (or, God forbid, QAnon or whatever the fuck the online version is these days) to the point that they don’t even realize a world exists outside of it. I see this with my Republican boomer relatives versus my Republican cousins. Don’t get me wrong, there’s a lot that’s fucked up about the boomers, but they’re better than the young ones. They’re at least old enough to remember a time when shared reality was defined by a “mainstream” news that nobody quite liked, but that forced you to deal with the fact that there are a lot of people out there who don’t think like you, and you can’t simply avoid them by retreating into a bubble that tells you only what you want to hear. The younger ones have no concept of that.
Mr. Bemused Senior
@prostratedragon: artists: the Bobs. SF acapella group.
rikyrah
BWA HA HA HA HA HA HW HA HA
Sibylle
@AHaschi
So
All those “Pass the torch” dudes didn’t have a plan
But Joe Biden loves to make plans
And he made a plan
And his plan worked
Bless 💞
https://x.com/AHaschi/status/1816057612300964294
KatKapCC
@Mr. Bemused Senior: Whenever I see a reference to a cat named Fluffy, this immediately comes to mind. Probably from a couple decades ago but still one of my fave cat memes.
Mr. Bemused Senior
@KatKapCC: LOL [cats 😁]
Chris
@rikyrah:
The reason so many liberals dislike and distrust cops is that, as an institution, they have a chronic problem with abusing the innocent and giving the guilty a free pass, so long as the innocent fit certain categories and the guilty fit certain categories.
If Harris actually went after guilty parties like white collar criminals in the oil or mortgage servicing sectors, the kind of guilty people you’re not “supposed” to prosecute, that’s great. That’s what liberals actually want cops to be.
To go back a hundred years, very few liberals have a problem with Elliot Ness. The problem with 1920s/1930s law enforcement was that the Elliot Ness types were the exception, not the rule. Most lawmen cheerfully took the mob’s coin. (Or depending on where in the country you were, much worse than the mob’s coin).
zhena gogolia
@rikyrah: In tears again!
No One of Consequence
The Kids are Allright.
Frost gives me some hope for the future. I do hope he continues to have one and that it is bright and impactful.
-NOoC
Ken
Do we have the budget to pay every general seven million dollars a year? Also, can we make sure every military operation is completed within an hour — or three hours, with commercial breaks and halftime show?
I very briefly considered whether a second Trump term would be worth it to get Tuberville out of the Senate, but decided (1) hell no, (2) hell no, and (3) hell no.
Besides, the minds behind Project 2025 would probably be all in for having the members of the Senate also serve as military dictator of the southeast central province. Worked for the Romans, didn’t it?
Juju
@Almost Retired: For example. I am not a cat lady. I am a dog lady. The assumption that women can only have cats is so biased. What is wrong with those people?
Mr. Longform
@Jeffg166:
Hence the meme of Alito and Barrett as “OPUS DEI” hires
EarthWindFire
@Peke Daddy: It even has the added benefit of accuracy.
No One of Consequence
@lamh47: Thanks for this. I’m off MSNBC since the vulture gathering. I do like Lawrence though, he was vacationing for this last bit I think.
-NOoC
gvg
@WereBear: Also, many childless people did not really want to be and that can hurt. There can be fertility failures, adoptions that fell through and things like surviving cancer. Not to mention the financial situation. Or thinking of other people I have known sometimes cheating spouses, health issues among not just themselves and spouse but other family members that ended up taking time away from self and partner seeking and just bad luck.
Making IVF harder and not helping with childcare costs or doing more for early education are really going to anger a lot of want to be mothers (and fathers).
Stupid, ignorant and insensitive.
Eolirin
@AM in NC: Murkowski may hold common cause with Republicans on policy, but she exhibits a real sense of contempt for the rest of the party, and doesn’t buy into a lot of the culture war bullshit.
When she retires, I wouldn’t be surprised to see her endorse Peltola for her seat.
rikyrah
@No One of Consequence:
LarryO came back from his vacation to work this week after the news broke on Sunday.
No One of Consequence
@rikyrah:
Thanks for posting that. I have always loved Maya’s integrity. It shines man. Makes me listen very intently to what she has to say.
-NOoC
BigJimSlade
I’m a bit late to this thread, but I think whoever uses the DEI line should immediately be called a KKK hire.
Ken
What policy do they have, other than culture war bullshit? Tax cuts, I suppose.
SFAW
@schrodingers_cat:
That was awesome.
Chris
@Eolirin:
She can afford to.
Murkowski is a relic of the age when it was more important for a senator to have a strong base among her actual constituents than to have a good relationship with her party as a national institution. Since the total nationalization of the Republican Party and the relentless purging of idiosyncratic locals (often even at the cost of winning elections), these people have almost completely ceased to exist. Just for some reason, not in Alaska. Murkowski’s brand was strong enough that a teabagger challenge that would’ve been a death sentence for almost anyone else was instead a reason to leave the party, run as an independent, win anyway, and plop her ass right back down into her Senate seat with both middle fingers in the air.
SFAW
@Suzanne:
See? His neck beard is good for something!
ArchTeryx
@Chris: I used to have a friend in Ohio that was pretty much like that. He was originally a redneck from Coshocton, OH, one of those one-factory towns on the edge of total ruin. He moved to the city to get AWAY from the rednecks but while you can take a redneck out of the country…
… every time he suffered a job setback of some kind (which was often because, Ohio), the racist stuff would come right out when he thought it was just me. And the irony? He was gay. Didn’t stop him from being one jot less racist.
He kept me sane during my 10 years in Columbus as a grad student, but after Trump was elected I dropped him like a hot potato. No room for bigots in my life any more.
Omnes Omnibus
@SFAW: That’s like saying a combover works.
comrade scotts agenda of rage
@Ken:
Deregulation.
Gutting public education.
Russia Appeasement.
I’m sure there are more.
But yeah, while Murkowski’s not as outwardly eyerolling as Susie Furrowbrows when it comes to claiming about not being “that kind of Republican”, her voting record’s what you would expect. Okay, she did vote to impeach Felonious D. But she’s simply like all the GQP now, they don’t mind the policies, they just don’t want the inside words becoming outside words.
In some ways she’s an old school pol in terms of bringing home the salty federal bacon for Alaska.
rikyrah
@WereBear:
I always said that I would have to be married in order to have kids. I wasn’t going into it trying to be a single mother.
All of my women friends who eventually had kids, struggled with infertility. Without IVF, only one would have become a mother.
One gave up, and adopted a daughter, and as the tale goes, of course, less than 2 years later, she had twin girls.
So, when Vance insults childless women, and attacks IVF and wants to ban IVF, and insults adoptive parents..
Yeah, folks take that shyt personally.
I don’t have any animals, but, being childless doesn’t make me any less of a participant in this society,
rikyrah
@Chris:
they literally had to spell MURKOWSKI on a write-in line, to get her elected.
classic
scav
After we’re through peeling off all the “innocent” childless people from those “others”, the ones that are exactly and entirely childless by choice, can we still acknowledge that even they still can have more of positive, not only investment but also impact, on the future of this nation that those self-congratulatory parents with quivers of kids they’ll gleefully underbus to capture the next tax rebate, abandon if they don’t feel like child-support, and leave to whatever heated future ensues from rolling coal as a political statement in their emotional support SUVs.
Suzanne
@rikyrah: Probably one-third of my friend group (that I know of) has been affected by infertility and miscarriage, or they’re LGBT and need to use fertility care. Some of them have turned to adoption, all but one through foster care. It’s just mindblowing to me that he would say something like this.
Tommy Vietor, one of the O-Bros, tweeted this morning:
Chris
@Suzanne:
Oh, it’s even worse than that: under Republican administrations, people who have miscarriages will be investigated for suspected abortions, and anyone who has too many of them (which is, for many unfortunate people, a reality) and isn’t part of the popular clique will end up being found guilty by principle of “where there’s smoke there’s fire.”
lowtechcyclist
@M31:
The whole couch thing is sofa king hilarious.
Geminid
@Eolirin: Senator Murkowski caucuses with the Republicans and self-describes as a Republican, but I don think her allegiance to the party is very deep. I know she and Democratic Rep. Mary Peltola campaigned together in the final weeks of their 2022 campaigns. I wouldn’t be surprised if Murkowski retired in 2028 and endorsed Peltola for that Senate seat.
Omnes Omnibus
Speaking of couch jokes….
Gretchen
Betsy McCaughey, (she of the death panels in Obamacare) was on tv with a black woman talking about affirmative action. When told that white women were the biggest beneficiaries of affirmative action, she hotly said she didn’t believe it. Answer: doesn’t matter if you believe it. Facts are facts.
Gretchen
@rikyrah: I know 35 year olds who were IVF babies in the late 80s who are having children of their own now. I don’t think these folks have any idea how many families have joyfully been able to have kids because of IVF>
Geminid
@Chris: I read that Alaska’s Native Corporations and labor unions played a big role in Murkowski’s 2010(?) write-in victory.
Alaska seems to be a very singular state politically. The federal government plays a much bigger role in the state than it does in the Lower 48, so its representation in Washington can have a very tangible impact upon Alaskans and they vote accordingly.
Alaska’s new electoral system is also unique, at least for now. They hold a single “jungle” primary with the top 4 finishers advancing to a ranked-choice runoff in November.
Citizen Alan
@Super Dave: There is indeed a class of white Americans who have no problem expressing vile beliefs about African-Americans a a class of people but who deny being “racists,” presumably out of the belief that “it’s not racism if it’s actually true that blacks are dumber and more violent than whites.”
Soprano2
@M31: I hate hate hate the assumption that people who have children are by default happier than those who don’t. I remember when Ann Landers asked her readers to write in about whether or not they regretted having children, and got an avalanche of mail from people who answered that question “yes”.
Soprano2
@Chris: I’m no longer surprised when people say “well if it’s true then it’s not racist” about things like crime and poverty.
Soprano2
@Omnes Omnibus: Well, here at work they know not to say stuff like that around me anymore, because they know I’ll push back against it.
Citizen Alan
@Geminid: It’s also arguably our most “socialist” country in that citizens get checks from the government trust fund paid from oil profits. And I bet every Republican in Alaska is disgusted at the very concept of UBI.
Citizen Alan
@Soprano2: I’m convinced that a lot of anti-choice attitudes among GOP women comes from thinking either (a) “I could have had an abortion but I didn’t, and now I have children that I love” or (b) “I wanted an abortion, couldn’t get one, and had a child that ruined my life, so why shouldn’t every one else suffer the same way.”
Villago Delenda Est
@Elizabelle: Chrissy Teigen got herself in the Congressional Record with that: “Pussy Ass Bitch”. Yes, the convicted felon former guy.
Villago Delenda Est
@Suzanne: Cruelty is the point.
Geminid
@Citizen Alan: What do you think of Alaska’s new electoral system? I think it might spread. I’ve got my problems with jungle primaries and I’m not a big fan of ranked-choice voting either, but I think these systems are the coming thing and Alaska’s is the best one I’ve seen so far.
Harrison Wesley
Will the uninformed voter know the difference between DEI and Opus Dei?
twbrandt
@JML:
Some news org, AP I think, ran a headline which said that “Harris is facing criticism based on race”.
They are making racist attacks! Just say it!
moonbat
@lamh47:
Thank you for posting that. Someone on Spoutible posted it last night but I could not get it to play. She’s absolutely right too.
pluky
@Suzanne: Your non-reaction was appropriate. You were there to process transactions, not to engage, positively or negatively, with a customer’s extraneous comments. On the other hand, if it had been me, and rather than behind the counter I had been say next in line, time to check some “stuff”.