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Mindlessly reprinting a Trump Turd (“Truth”) as if it meant something is the latest offense against journalism from the Times.  In fairness, a bunch of other media outlets fell for it, too. Anyway, here’s the KamalaHQ response:

I Agree to Accept $100 From Every Citizen of the US

As usual, really good.  Then this:

I Agree to Accept $100 From Every Citizen of the US 1

The Harris campaign is the first one that I’ve seen that knows how to really use social media.

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  1. 1.

    hrprogressive

    I know a candidate’s social media team/game is only going to account for so much of “do they earn enough votes to win”, but the KamalaHQ team’s game seems like a solid A, or even A+ with that meme, so.

    To the extent our entire societal discourse has been distilled down to meme-level understandings of everything, they seem to be firing on all cylinders right now.

    Makes me feel, what’s the word again?

    Hopeful?

  2. 2.

    NorthLeft

    I understand that the NYT has changed their headline after withering criticism. Not sure who does their headlines, but maybe that person needs to be replaced with someone who actually reads the story they are writing the headline for.

  3. 3.

    MattF

    Both NYT and WaPo reversed the sense of their headlines on the story. Don’t know if the texts of the articles changed.

  4. 4.

    Mr. Bemused Senior

    From downstairs…

    @MattF: Is Hulk Hogan going to be there?

    He will be introducing the contestants combatants er … debaters?

  6. 6.

    JiveTurkin

    I’m going to sign a four-year contract with the New York Knick for $158 million.  I hear they are looking for 65 year-old point guards.  Who do I call at the NYT so they can post the headline?

  7. 7.

    Another Scott

    Speaking of horrid headlines, the Boston Globe actually gets the prize today.  :-/  It’s easy enough to find, but let me know if you want a link.

    Meanwhile, …

    Nitter

    Twitter version

    Kyle Griffin
    @kylegriffin1
    10m

    A national Muslim organization that had declared itself “uncommitted” on President Biden’s re-election bid is now endorsing Vice President Harris.

    The Black Muslim Leadership Council Fund is believed to be the first Muslim group in the uncommitted camp to now back Harris.
    nbcnews.com/politics/2024-el…

    Aug 3, 2024 · 7:00 PM UTC

    Good, good. Sensible people are coming home to help us do the work.

    (via MuellerSheWrote)

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  9. 9.

    KatKapCC

    @NorthLeft: Yeah, first they replaced “agrees to” with “proposes”. Now, on the homepage, it says “Trump backs out of ABC debate and proposes one with Harris on Fox” and on the article itself, it says “Trump Cancels a Debate With Harris on ABC News and Pitches One With Fox News Instead”.

    Slimy little jerks.

  10. 10.

    oldster

    Dems, and Harris in particular, need to get better at hitting him on his cowardice.

    After his meltdown at the NABJ session, Harris criticized him for “disrespect” and “divisiveness.”
    I think that’s the wrong tack. He and his worshippers thrive on being disrespectful to their opponents. Tell them that Trump is divisive and they only love him more.

    Instead, she should hit him for being a sensitive snowflake who couldn’t handle the pressure. Point out that he melted down when he was faced with direct questioning. Call him what he is: a weakling and a coward.

    I guarantee his followers will be more affected by that than by calling him “disrespectful”.

  11. 11.

    dm

    With the Times and the Post backpedaling, have we finally started to crack the “worth the refs” code?

  12. 12.

    different-church-lady

    They JUST FUCKING RAN HIS LIE WITHOUT CHECKING.

    They exposed themselves. Do not let this get swept under the rug.

  13. 13.

    Enhanced Voting Techniques

    I predict by the end of this Trump will have claimed he already debated Pelosi June 27.

  15. 15.

    Jeffro

    Here’s hoping the Harris/TBD 2024 campaign has a fun counter-event in the works for Sept 4th!

    (Maybe just Kamala calling people up and making fun of little whiny baby trumpov?  And in between the jokes, they can throw some actual trumpov horror show stats out there?)

  16. 16.

    MattF

    @dm: I think both papers have to take a hard look at how those Trumpian headlines got written. And not just written, but written, edited, approved, and published.

  18. 18.

    Another Scott

    Tim Walz sends me e-mail, as one does:

    You’ve probably been wondering about my plans for the weekend.

    Well, here it goes… I’m taking this time to ask you to join me in supporting my friend Bob Casey in Pennsylvania.

    […]

    Heh.

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  19. 19.

    eclare

    @hrprogressive:

    John Fetterman’s social media presence was also en fuego, and he won.  Remember Dr. Oz and the crudites?  Fetterman jumped all over that.

  20. 20.

    Sean

    @oldster: they’ve been doing that pretty aggressively. The social media strategy in this post highlights it, along with the campaign statement. Kamala went out and said “come say it to my face” in a direct challenge to him. All the campaign statements in the last 12 hrs have referenced him as a coward who needs a safety blanket, or a similar theme.

  23. 23.

    Enhanced Voting Techniques

    Hold on, does this mean Trump is going to ramble for 90 minutes by himself on national TV the 4th like he did at RNC??? Hot damn, this the best news I’ve heard yet.

  24. 24.

    Chief Oshkosh

    @oldster: I agree. Reacting by calling Trump an asshole is mother’s milk to all the assholes who support him. Calling him what he is, a Loser Whiny-Assed Titty Baby would be much for effective and accurate.

  26. 26.

    Captain C

    @dm:

    With the Times and the Post backpedaling, have we finally started to crack the “worth the refs” code?

    I suspect that part of our working the refs is unsubscribing.  They can’t make ad money if there are no eyeballs to sell.

  28. 28.

    Tony G

    @NorthLeft: To state the obvious, a media organization that actually gives a fuck about journalism (i.e., empirically not the New York Times) will, whenever it changes even ONE WORD of the text or headline of an article, also provide to its readers a detailed description of EXACTLY WHAT WAS CHANGED AND WHY IT WAS CHANGED.  The failure to do that indicates that they do not give a fuck about journalism.

  31. 31.

    Steve LaBonne

    I have agreed to be the next concertmaster of the Cleveland Orchestra. What’s that you say? Audition? What are you talking about?

  32. 32.

    dmsilev

    The Post has a story about how the Trump campaign is outsourcing basically all of their GOTV operations to third party grifts, I mean organizations. I just want to highlight one small part:

    Bowyer instructed the organizers not to come on too strong by showing up with MAGA hats and fliers. Instead, they should research their marks and start reaching out through Facebook groups, community events, or neighborly gestures such as recommending plumbers or harp teachers. They could even arrange seemingly chance encounters on coffee runs or dog walks.

    “Some of these things sound like stalking,” one staffer whispered.

    “Professional stalkers,” his colleague joked back.

    As one slide from the training implored: “BE NORMAL. BE NORMAL. BE NORMAL.”

    Yeah, I think that ship has sailed.

  33. 33.

    Sure Lurkalot

    @MattF:

    I think both papers have to take a hard look at how those Trumpian headlines got written. And not just written, but written, edited, approved, and published.

    Is this satire?

    Here’s Froomkin’s wise take on the FTFNYT’s editor

    Shorter: It’s a feature, not a bug.

    Meanwhile, fucking Drudge Report’s headline is “Rattled Trump Only Wants Safe Fox Debate.”

    It’s upside down world in media land.

  35. 35.

    Sean

    @Sean:

    It’s interesting how ‘any time, any place’ becomes ‘one specific time, one specific safe space,'” Harris wrote on social media platform X. “I’ll be there on Sept. 10, like he agreed to. I hope to see him there.

    David Plouffe, an adviser to former President Barack Obama who recently joined the Harris campaign, posted on social media: “Now, he seems only comfortable in a cocoon, asking his happy place Fox to host a Trump rally and call it a debate. Maybe he can only handle debating someone his own age.”

  44. 44.

    Captain C

    I’ve agreed to accept a billion-dollar-per-year contract from the New York Mets to play centerfield for them for the next ten years.  Also, I’ve agreed to a deal in which Zuck, Elon, and Bezos all liquidate all of their assets and give it all the proceeds to me.  I can haz front page FTFNYT coverage now?

    ed. for grammar

  47. 47.

    oldgold

    You would think that even the clueless NYT might be able to discern that having a debate at what would be essentially a MAGA rally moderated by Fox propagandists is an absurd proposal.

  48. 48.

    different-church-lady

    @different-church-lady: I just remembered that I saw a physical copy of The Boston Globe this morning and the whole front of the sports section was effectively “No, she’s not a man.” I wonder if it was about making up for that blunder.

  49. 49.

    Geminid

    @oldster: Harris’s remarks after Trump’s NABJ appearance were not aimed at Trump’s partisans, but at the broader electorate instead.

    I heard the passage about disrespect and division that night on the radio, and I thought it was very strong. I noticed that Harris did not refer to Trump by name but rather as. “A person who would….A person who wants to….” The reporter commented on this too. I thought it nicely conveyed a thinly veiled contempt for the “person.”

  50. 50.

    KatKapCC

    @Enhanced Voting Techniques: “I wasn’t afraid to debate Abraham Lincoln on the deck of the Titanic, and I wasn’t afraid to debate the Stay-Puft Marshmallow Man on the rings of Saturn, and I wasn’t afraid to debate Socrates on Snapchat, so I am definitely not afraid to debate Kamala Harris on any single network that has the letters F-O-X in its name and in front of a room that is almost empty except for us, the moderators, and 5,000 people who would buy vials of my urine for $800.”

  51. 51.

    Geoduck

    @Another Scott: I’m sorry to be a mooch, but if -I- ever try to visit a nitter link, I get hit with “YOU CAN’T GO THERE DANGER” security message. Could you or someone post the Boston Globe headline?

  63. 63.

    Captain C

    @oldgold:

    You would think that even the clueless NYT might be able to discern that having a debate at what would be essentially a MAGA rally moderated by Fox propagandists is an absurd proposal.

    And yet…

  64. 64.

    JoyceH

    I’ve agreed to accept a seat on the Supreme Court, replacing retiring Samuel Alito. Meanwhile, Anita Hill has agreed to take the Thomas seat.

  66. 66.

    Captain C

    At this point the FTFNYT is not only bothsidesing whether it’s raining (“Harris claims it’s sunny, TCFG forcefully announces it’s raining”) without sticking their collective head outside to see, but not mentioning that TCFG’s umbrella company is one of their advertisers.

  68. 68.

    KatKapCC

    @Another Scott: WOW. And now the headline on another article on their site starts with “Amid furor over gender…” and mentions that she has “faced questions about her gender identity”. Yet they also quote the IOC president saying this is not about trans people because she is not trans. I don’t see any corrections or apologies.

  70. 70.

    Sure Lurkalot

    @oldgold:

    You would think that even the clueless NYT…

    They are not clueless.

    Googling, they have about 10.5 million subscribers. Unless and until a more critical mass of people drop their support, they have no reason to change. Their owners and editors think their job is to throw a bunch of “people are saying” quotes into an article and let the readers sort them out. Without acknowledging that they have influence over what “people are saying”.

    They have been upstaged by the Pitchbot every damn day for years now, have media critics like Rosen and Froomkin pointing out their behavior and they’ve only doubled down and gotten worse.

  71. 71.

    Martin

    @hrprogressive: It’s a bit cringe. The meme is pretty stale. ‘Blankie’ is really cringe. And it doesn’t hit. What does a blankie have to do with Trump? If you’re going to take the effort, hit him where it hurts.

    This was sort of my concern here. You can’t force something to be viral. You can’t force memes. It needs to be authentic and spontaneous. The campaign can’t be making memes, they need to elevate ones created organically by supporters. Not only will that get better memes, but it also shows that the campaign is following the interests of the community – it shows the campaign is paying attention and listening. It’ll also require the campaign to be edgy – good memes aren’t safe.

    But campaigns are too invested in control to do this. My hope was that the young people in the campaign could get this point across, but perhaps not.

  73. 73.

    Captain C

    @Sure Lurkalot:

    Their owners and editors think their job is to throw a bunch of “people are saying” quotes into an article and let the readers sort them out. Without acknowledging that they have influence over what “people are saying”.

    Or admitting that they decide which quotes to use, and of those, which ones to attribute to an actual name.

  75. 75.

    Sister Golden Bear

    @Another Scott: Sadly not surprised. The media routinely has lied about trans people, especially when it comes to trans athletes.

    Transphobes soooo wanted a trans woman competing at the Olympics that they could hate that they invented one.

  76. 76.

    wjca

    @dmsilev: they should research their marks [Emphasis added]

    Just in case anyone reading their material had somehow failed to grasp that this is a con.

  77. 77.

    KatKapCC

    @Sister Golden Bear: And it can end up being a trap for people who support trans folks, too, because the response to a wrong claim of someone being trans sometimes blends into “OMG what a horrible thing to say about someone!!!” rather than a more nuanced takedown of gender essentialism and trans panic. Like…it’s important for us cis folks to be sure we’re not coming across as though calling someone trans is itself the insult. I don’t know, I’m not explaining it well. I guess…remember when some lady at a McCain event said Obama was “an Arab” and McCain told her “No he isn’t, he’s a decent family man” as though that could not coincide with “Arab”. And I’m sure that wasn’t what McCain actually meant, but that’s how it came across.

    I think I’ll stop my rambling now because I’m not making much sense, probably.

  81. 81.

    Sure Lurkalot

    @Baud: Don’t I know it? I have a monthly discussion with my sister about her expensive, dead tree NYT subscription.

    I feel the same about twitter. I’m sad there aren’t better or equivalent alternatives and people have built strong community and allyship there but it’s owned by a truly evil fucker and I hope it crashes and burns spectacularly.

  82. 82.

    Dorothy A. Winsor

    msnbc

    Former President Jimmy Carter, 99, told family that he’s “only trying to make it to vote for Kamala Harris,” the Atlanta Journal-Constitution reported. Carter has been in hospice care since February 2023.

  84. 84.

    oldster

    @LAC:

    Some of them are persuadable. Some of them are getting tired of the schtick. Some of them are starting to see that he is boring, old, and not funny any more.

    There will be voters who voted for Trump in 2016 or 2020 who will vote for Harris this time. It’s worth the effort to increase their number.

  85. 85.

    pajaro

    @$8 blue check mistermix:

    The Post did change the headline several times.  They also actually decided to fact check Trump’s claims, both of whether there was an actual agreement, and whether his reasons for abandoning the ABC debate were accurate/consistent with his prior acceptance.  They had trouble figuring out what was the most important part of the story, that Trump had lied, or that the lie was crafted to coveri up his chickening out of the ABC debate.

  86. 86.

    lowtechcyclist

    @eclare: ​

    @Baud:
    Italian good for you?

    @Baud: ​
     

    @eclare:

    Olive Garden it is!

    You blew your line – that’s where you’re supposed to suggest tire rims and anthrax!

    Kids these days, just no respect for tradition. ;-)

  87. 87.

    Geminid

    @oldster: I think the 2020 Trump voters who will vote for Harris this year have already made up their minds. Harris would do better to direct her messaging towards more normal voters and let the Trumpers stew in their own juices, in my opinion.

  88. 88.

    Jeffro

    @Baud:I’ve agreed to go on a date with Olivia Rodrigo.

    LOL

    mighty big of you!

    “You’re welcome, Olivia” =)

  89. 89.

    Jeffro

    @oldster: Some [trump voters] are getting tired of the schtick. Some of them are starting to see that he is boring, old, and not funny any more.

    This is an accurate assessment, not arguing with you…

    …but the thought that in this year our our FSM 2024, with nuclear weapons, a plan for climate change/mitigation, and women’s basic rights at stake, that our collective selection of a leader has anything at all to do with people being tired of a particular rapist lifelong con man convicted felon WWE wrestling heel‘s “schtick”…

    …let’s just say it is not doing a whole lot for the background sense of anxiety I’ve had since, oh, November 2016.  Or for my general sense of the future of humanity.

    However, I’ve read my Neil Postman, so I have understood this on some level for a while.  Ugh.

    Anyway…let’s GO BLUE!!! 

  92. 92.

    Uncle Cosmo

    @MattF: I think both papers have to take a hard look at how those Trumpian headlines got written. And not just written, but written, edited, approved, and published.​

    “Have to”, my royal Italian arse. It’s intentional.

    Those papers know full well that only a minuscule fraction of their viewers read beyond the headlines. The evil brilliance of the Far Wrong is to place their tools in a position to slant the headlines however they want them, even (especially!) to the point of completely contradicting the underlying story.

    I’ve been pointing this out at the top of my electronic lungs since Dubya’s first term, much good has it done me…though it sounds like light is finally starting to dawn over progressive Marble Heads…

  93. 93.

    jimmiraybob

    After holding out for 91ish comments I agree to a romantic weekend retreat with Gina Rodriguez.  Marriage could be on the table.

  94. 94.

    Bupalos

    @dmsilev:

    “or harp teachers.”

    ???!!!! I’m envisioning a Harris venn diagram with circles for “Students of harp” and “Potential Magats” that are on opposite sides a tabloid size sheet and in opposite corners.

  95. 95.

    Uncle Cosmo

    @Tony G: To state the obvious, … they do not give a fuck about journalism.

    Because they don’t do journalism, they practice urinalism: They whip out their cranks, wave them about as if they were Long Dong Silver instead of willie-wankers, then piss whatever foul-smelling urine against the wall in hopes it’ll stick.

    Bastards should be frogmarched of to spend a few years digging wild onions out of a cow pasture in the back acres of a farm in southwestern PA. (Which prompted Dad’s older brother to leave for the big city ca. 1927. Worked out OK for him, no reason those worthless mortar-forkers couldn’t manage the same.)

  102. 102.

    kalakal

    I can’t help but wishing that when TFG doesn’t show on September 10th they substitute the Have I Got News For You Tub of Lard

    Tub of Lard HIGNFY

    *Roy Hattersley was the Labour Party deputy leader and hence a big deal at the time

  103. 103.

    wjca

    I’m thinking I’ll agree to play first base for the A’s.  Not a lot of running involved, and I’m tall enough to stretch for a throw that’s off-line.  No way I’ll hit a major league pitch, except by accident.  But the way they keep trading away their best players, there could be an opportunity there.  And I’ll be a lock for the record books the first time I step onto the field.

    As soon as I figure out my salary demands, I’ll accept.

  104. 104.

    Uncle Cosmo

    @K-Mo: Happy to. At his salary of course. And my left thumb would be pressed down so hard on the scales ​they could get my fingerprint off the metal.

  105. 105.

    suzanne

    @dmsilev: Mr. Suzanne and I have been making harp teacher jokes all day.

    I wonder if any MAGAts play the harp. Seems like a coastal elitist thing.

  106. 106.

    les

    I think it’s time to consider whether FTFNYT has hired dougjballoon to do it’s headlines.

  107. 107.

    Another Scott

    Kamala HQ
    @KamalaHQ
    49m

    Trump blames “the school administration” for hundreds of empty seats at his rally

    (Vice President Harris filled every seat in this same arena four days ago)

    Aug 3, 2024 · 10:20 PM UTC

    Weird.

    Sad.

    Low energy.

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  108. 108.

    JCNZ

    Any chance someone could reach out to Neil Diamond and get his permission for the Kamala campaign to use “Sweet Caroline” for the duration?

  109. 109.

    Chris Johnson

    @Sure Lurkalot: No, not even that. It’s too late for them.

    The NYT already lost too many subscribers, like so many smaller newspapers before them, that they cannot continue. There is no threshold to force them to reevaluate because that threshold is long past, and that is what drove them into the arms of the Russian oligarchs that run Donald Trump.

    You cannot make the NYT turn around by taking away more subscribers, you’re only driving them deeper into the arms of the Kremlin. There’s no turning back. Villago delenda est.

    They work for Trump. That can’t change unless Trump’s real bosses, are also delenda. Which we can work on, too. But Trump doing badly cannot change this because it isn’t sales or clicks the NYT needs. They need victory over American democracy. Good fuckin’ luck with that.

    Also, like rikyrah likes to say…

    JUDGES JUDGES JUDGES

    Very likely some of the high muckity mucks at the Times have committed crimes of some sort. How do you think the Kremlin blackmails them so well? Justice can clean up some of the mess.

  110. 110.

    wjca

    @Another Scott: Trump blames “the school administration” for hundreds of empty seats at his rally

    Naturally.  Because the liburals have taken control of the schools.  (To subvert our children, don’t cha know.)

  111. 111.

    Geoduck

    The thread is probably dead, but thanks everyone for the headline. I finally did get on another system and see it for myself.

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