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You are here: Home / Elections 2024 / Jimmy Carter Is Nearing His 100th Birthday, and All He Wants Is To Defeat (I won’t say his name in the same sentence as Jimmy Carter)

Jimmy Carter Is Nearing His 100th Birthday, and All He Wants Is To Defeat (I won’t say his name in the same sentence as Jimmy Carter)

by WaterGirl|  August 3, 20249:26 pm| 145 Comments

This post is in: Elections 2024, Open Threads, Politics

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Jimmy Carter’s next goal is voting for Kamala Harris for president. (AJC)

The former president is ‘more alert and interested in politics’ in recent days, his family says.

by Greg Bluestein

As former President Jimmy Carter nears his 100th birthday, his milestone celebration isn’t on his mind.

Defeating Donald Trump is.

May you live to see that day, Jimmy.  You are one tough cookie, so my money is on you.

.

Only slightly related, I am enjoying the Mocking of Trump.

I HAVE AGREED TO A SWIM MEET WITH KATIE LEDECKY SO LONG AS SHE WEARS A FULL SUIT OF ARMOR AND HOLDS HER BREATH THE WHOLE TIME ALSO I GET A JET SKI.

— David Litt (@davidlitt) August 3, 2024

Sounds fair to me.

Open thread.

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145Comments

  1. 1.

    Adam L Silverman

    August 3, 2024 at 9:27 pm

    My former boss!

  2. 2.

    zhena gogolia

    August 3, 2024 at 9:30 pm

    @Adam L Silverman: Jimmy Carter?

  3. 3.

    Adam L Silverman

    August 3, 2024 at 9:33 pm

    @zhena gogolia: Yep. Worked at the Carter Center, in the Middle East program, when I was an undergrad at Emory. Carter’s always been a class act and we should never forget he had an election stolen from him because Reagan and his campaign betrayed the country to the Iranians, cutting a deal so that the Iranians would not agree to release the hostages until after the election. Reagan and his people actually ensured that Americans would continue to suffer so that Reagan could get elected. Everyone involved, everyone who then took a political appointment in either Reagan administration, everyone who helped them, should have been dealt with appropriately.

    That’s it for me. I only commented because I worked at the Carter Center over 30 years ago. I’ll go back to my own post and stay there. You can find me there if you want me.

  4. 4.

    Jackie

    August 3, 2024 at 9:34 pm

    I’m not a praying person, but I’m praying Jimmy’s wish is granted.♥️

  5. 5.

    M31

    August 3, 2024 at 9:35 pm

    I want Jimmy to see the demise of Donald Trump and the guinea worm, two horrifying parasites

    hang in there, sir!

  6. 6.

    p.a.

    August 3, 2024 at 9:40 pm

    Nixon, Paris Peace Talks

    Reagan, Iran, Hostage Crisis

    Trump, Putin, Egypt (?!?!), 2016, Putin, Helsinki, 1/6/21

     

    The Party of Treason

  7. 7.

    Jackie

    August 3, 2024 at 9:40 pm

    @Adam L Silverman:

    Carter’s always been a class act and we should never forget he had an election stolen from him because Reagan and his campaign betrayed the country to the Iranians, cutting a deal so that the Iranians would not agree to release the hostages until after the election.

    I have never forgotten. Nixon’s traitorous negotiations was the beginning and continuation of today’s GQP.😡

  8. 8.

    bbleh

    August 3, 2024 at 9:43 pm

    As to the Mocking of Trump, I was really surprised at the MATERIAL changes in the headlines at WaPo, CNN and even the Vichy Times concerning the debate thing.

    Why did it happen this time, when it hasn’t happened so many times before?  And why everywhere, and so noticeably?

    Is there some Revolt of the Front-Line Journos?  Or did someone on Team Kamala call them in and tell them if they thought they weren’t given respect under Obama or Biden just damn well wait and see what’s gonna happen unless they change course and fast?  Or or or … ?

    Seems like there’s A Story there.  Hmmm, who goes looking for stories, sort of as a profession?

  9. 9.

    Joe Falco

    August 3, 2024 at 9:44 pm

    Having led the campaign to eradicate the Guinea worm disease, Jimmy Carter now turns his gaze towards eliminating another worm for the benefit of all humanity.

  10. 10.

    206inKY

    August 3, 2024 at 9:45 pm

    Ledecky would still win.

  11. 11.

    HumboldtBlue

    August 3, 2024 at 9:52 pm

    I’ll never forgive the motherfuckers that elevated, voted for and support the stupidest motherfucking clown this nation has ever seen.

  12. 12.

    HumboldtBlue

    August 3, 2024 at 9:54 pm

    @Joe Falco: ​ 

    Indeed.

  13. 13.

    M31

    August 3, 2024 at 9:55 pm

    by the way, under no circumstances look up what guinea worms are and how to get rid of them

  14. 14.

    SatanicPanic

    August 3, 2024 at 9:57 pm

    I’m glad Jimmy made it to 99 but I would never wish that on myself.

  15. 15.

    KatKapCC

    August 3, 2024 at 9:59 pm

    Oh, I hope he does make it. Such a truly good man.

  16. 16.

    dm

    August 3, 2024 at 9:59 pm

    @HumboldtBlue: The initial moments of that video shows empty seats on the main floor.

    That’s the venue that Harris filled to the rafters earlier this week.

  17. 17.

    Jeffro

    August 3, 2024 at 10:00 pm

    When he does make it to the polling place, to cast his ballot, I hope to heck there is a HUUUUUGE crowd of patriotic Americans waiting outside to greet him, cheer him, and send the same message VP Harris is sending: WE. WON’T. GO. BACK.

    Send that message, Dems.  SEND IT.

  18. 18.

    dm

    August 3, 2024 at 10:03 pm

    @bbleh: I think our side has finally figured out how to work the refs.

    Makes me wonder how many subscribers they lost during the post debate “one-sides-ism” about the candidates’ mental acuity.

  19. 19.

    Ken

    August 3, 2024 at 10:03 pm

    Photos are showing up, and it’s possible Team Trump made a tactical error in holding his rally at the same GSU arena where Harris held hers just four days ago. Those empty blue seats sure show up well.

    And hers was on a weeknight.

  20. 20.

    Chet Murthy

    August 3, 2024 at 10:03 pm

    @bbleh:

    Why did it happen this time, when it hasn’t happened so many times before?  And why everywhere, and so noticeably?

    It’s interesting, isn’t it?  Someday somebody will write a history of these times, and we’ll learn that the hell was happening.  Maybe a kind of _The Best And the Brightest_ for our times.

  21. 21.

    Nancy

    August 3, 2024 at 10:03 pm

    I remember that disgrace. I also recall hearing that R’s campaign got a hold of President Carter’s debate notes so R anticipated his points and looked clever.  “There you go again” was just so cute.

    Adam L Silverman:

    Why is Adam’s name at the end of my comment?

  22. 22.

    danielx

    August 3, 2024 at 10:07 pm

    Also, PAB will only debate Harris if she is bound and gagged before the debate begins.

    Truth be told, I suspect no debate will ever happen. There’s no way Trump’s handlers want to let him get on stage in opposition to a highly experienced trial lawyer, whether in front of a Fox News audience or anywhere else.

  23. 23.

    Jay

    August 3, 2024 at 10:07 pm

    @bbleh:

    They all got massively ratio’d and mocked on social media.

  24. 24.

    laura

    August 3, 2024 at 10:08 pm

    A couple few years ago, I reached out to the Carter Center to offer a heartfelt measure of gratitude for both President Jimmy and First Lady Rosalynn Carter in their roles as President and First Lady and their final act as humble servants for the sole benefit of others.  It wasn’t 24 hours later that I received the kindest, warmest response. I’ll cherish that till the end of my lucky days.

    I sure hope President Carter is able to hold on and cast that historic ballot.

  25. 25.

    Mike in NC

    August 3, 2024 at 10:09 pm

    Hoping that Jimmy Carter outlives Fat Bastard.

  26. 26.

    Chet Murthy

    August 3, 2024 at 10:09 pm

    @Jay: Obviously I’m glad this happened, but …. I might respond: but they’ve gotten massively ratioed before, and it’s never affected them so ….. rapidly.  What’s changed?

    I have my own theories (OK, OK, that I’ve “borrowed” from others who know more than me) but it’s still puzzling that -this- time they relented.

  27. 27.

    eclare

    August 3, 2024 at 10:12 pm

    I worked on his tax return at Arthur Andersen in ATL.  Unfortunately I was the green bean on the team so I didn’t get to go to Plains to deliver it.  The guy who did was 6’5″ and got a photo with Jimmy and Rosalynn Carter.  Next to Mike, they looked like munchkins.

    I hope Jimmy gets his wish.

  28. 28.

    Jay

    August 3, 2024 at 10:16 pm

    It wasn’t just the ratio’d aspect, or the mockery, they got accused bluntly of being liars, gaslighting, manipulation and doing so willfully.

  29. 29.

    Suzanne

    August 3, 2024 at 10:19 pm

    @Mike in NC:

    Hoping that Jimmy Carter outlives Fat Bastard. 

    Oh man. Absolutely. I’ve told SuzMom that she has to do the same, and that I will take her to his gravesite if she wants to desecrate it.

    We drove out to Cape Hatteras today. Long drive. Hopped off the highway in Norfolk for a coffee stop. Accidentally took a wrong turn and had to go through a neighborhood with a staggering quantity of Trump flags. #weird

  30. 30.

    ssdd

    August 3, 2024 at 10:25 pm

    I didn’t like Carter when he was elected but I was 10 and didn’t like girls (cooties!!!) either. I got over both. Jimmy is the best of us.

  31. 31.

    Mike E

    August 3, 2024 at 10:25 pm

    @206inKY: listening to the coverage of her historic win and the incessant concern trolling of how “she better make a move here or Titmus will catch her!” Hohum, Katie just goes about her business and dominates the sport and meanwhile Paige Madden swims the race of her life and nearly takes silver.

    NBC: making shitty olympics broadcasting the gold standard.

  32. 32.

    Steve LaBonne

    August 3, 2024 at 10:26 pm

    @Jay: Democrats are in array AND have finally learned how to work the refs. Truly, we live in an age of miracles.

  33. 33.

    KatKapCC

    August 3, 2024 at 10:27 pm

    @Nancy: You must have clicked on “reply” to his comment, and then typed your comment above the link.

  34. 34.

    Jay

    August 3, 2024 at 10:28 pm

    So, some things are settling out with T.

    She has figured out that her relationship with her parents, has to be rules based and completely on her terms.

    With work, Occupational Health, basically ripped her Manager a new one, but kindly and gently, like they were explaining something complex to a petulant toddler.

  35. 35.

    Martin

    August 3, 2024 at 10:29 pm

    @bbleh: Because Democrats are playing the game of politics more competently now than before. Starting with the decision to detach from protecting the legacy of Biden to assess whether winning would be more likely with a different candidate, to the campaign connecting better with culture, the way Harris fights back, and so on. The border ad could have been cut months ago under Biden, but wasn’t until 2 days after he was out. It’s a good ad – it puts Trump on the defensive. It’s playing politics competently instead of ceding the issue to him to talk about constantly.

    Democrats keep demanding the media do the job of attacking Trump for them. When Democrats do it themselves, the media responds to that. It’s not hard to understand.

  36. 36.

    Ramona

    August 3, 2024 at 10:29 pm

    @bbleh: Is it possible that a fair number of finally enlightened liberals cancelling their FTNYT subscriptions and being clear that they are cancelling because of the decades long rightwing bias of the FTNYT is having an effect?

  37. 37.

    M31

    August 3, 2024 at 10:30 pm

    @Nancy: R’s campaign got a hold of President Carter’s debate notes so R anticipated his points and looked clever.

    yup, and it came out later that that fucker George Will was behind it, as I recall

  38. 38.

    Renie

    August 3, 2024 at 10:30 pm

    Thursday, Women Lawyers for Harris, Jasmine Crockett attending

    https://x.com/LeahLitman/status/1819778911351251014

    Register at http://womenlawyersforharris24.com

  39. 39.

    Villago Delenda Est

    August 3, 2024 at 10:30 pm

    @M31: Let’s just say that the Weyland-Yutani Corporation is looking for a substitute for guinea worms.

  40. 40.

    opiejeanne

    August 3, 2024 at 10:32 pm

    @Mike E: The idiot Is Rowdy. He has been very negative about every event with an American, pointing out errors and talking nonsense about whether Ledecky understands the history of her 4th gold.

  41. 41.

    Mousebumples

    August 3, 2024 at 10:34 pm

    @Jay: I’m guessing Oc Health has been down this path with others. Good luck to both of you.

  42. 42.

    dmsilev

    August 3, 2024 at 10:37 pm

    Carter outlived Kissinger. Who is still dead, just like Generalissimo Franco.

  43. 43.

    Ramona

    August 3, 2024 at 10:39 pm

    @M31: I need to google for details. Do you have book titles and/or news item links easily accessible to share with me. I find George Will insufferable but I had no idea he plays dirty tricks too.

  44. 44.

    opiejeanne

    August 3, 2024 at 10:39 pm

    @Jay: I want to send words of encouragement, but the need to do these things she has had to do is, well…

    Courage and luck to both of you, and virtual hugs.

  45. 45.

    opiejeanne

    August 3, 2024 at 10:40 pm

    @Ramona: I may be misremembering but I think George Will crowed about it later.

  46. 46.

    Villago Delenda Est

    August 3, 2024 at 10:41 pm

    @Martin: This is because the vermin of the Village would much rather be eating tiger shrimp at Sally’s than actually working.

  47. 47.

    Martin

    August 3, 2024 at 10:42 pm

    Harris has over 200 field offices open in WI, MI, PA, NC, GA, NV, and AZ. None in FL, OH, IA. Also none in VA and MN which some polls in early July had Biden losing.

    These were probably lined up prior to Biden stepping down, so they may not yet reflect where the campaign feels Harris needs help or can expand the map. They have 360,000 people signed up to volunteer with the campaign. It sounds as though many of those offices hadn’t opened earlier due to a lack of volunteers. Trump is closing field offices the rumor being because he lacks volunteers, not because he lacks cash.

  48. 48.

    Mike E

    August 3, 2024 at 10:43 pm

    @opiejeanne: Idiot with a microphone. Then the US mixed medley relay just goes out and crushes a world record, Torri Huske winning yet another gold medal with her best 100m time swimming the anchor leg and she’s asked what it was like holding off the Chinese team. Fucking malpractice.

  49. 49.

    Chet Murthy

    August 3, 2024 at 10:43 pm

    @Ramona: I had the same memory (of Will helping to ratfuck Carter in the debates).  I googled “george will carter debate” and the first link was a FTFNYT article (which I did not click thru, b/c FTFNYT): https://www.nytimes.com/1983/07/09/us/columnist-helped-reagan-on-debate.html

  50. 50.

    Adam L Silverman

    August 3, 2024 at 10:43 pm

    @Ramona:

    https://www.thecrimson.com/article/1995/4/19/the-ethics-of-george-will-pbhbarvards/

    https://newrepublic.com/article/89585/debategate-carter-reagan-debate-scandal

  51. 51.

    Jay

    August 3, 2024 at 10:44 pm

    @Mousebumples:

    The stupid thing is her MGR is pregnant, and there are two others in the group on “medical accommodation”, this BS push came down from higher up. The Uni also just did a horribly managed layoff pissing off all the unions and even the Faculty,

    Then announcing a 2 year, $1.5 billion dollar creation of a Medical School, and a $450K spend on “employee appreciation Day”.

    General sentiment at the Uni, was if you really appreciated the staff you would have spent that $450k on keeping them.

  52. 52.

    dmsilev

    August 3, 2024 at 10:47 pm

    @Martin: The Post had an article this morning about how the Trump campaign is basically outsourcing most of their GOTV to external organizations like Turning Point. Seems like a recipe for grift, inefficiency, and so on, so ‘please proceed’.

    Link.

  53. 53.

    Chet Murthy

    August 3, 2024 at 10:52 pm

    @dmsilev: Where’s Brad Parscale when you really need him, eh?

  54. 54.

    Villago Delenda Est

    August 3, 2024 at 10:53 pm

    @dmsilev: If one does not believe that Nazi twit Charlie Kirk isn’t skimming with a backhoe on all that sweet sweet cash, I have a bridge in Brooklyn to show one.

  55. 55.

    Martin

    August 3, 2024 at 10:53 pm

    @Villago Delenda Est: No, it’s because it’s Democrats job to beat Trump, not theirs. They’re not supposed to be invested in the outcome, so what does that leave them with? If you are a political journalist, this is a sport. Who is better at playing the game?

    Trump attacks, do Democrats respond? Democrats attack, does Trump respond? Why won’t someone stop these constant swift boat attacks against John Kerry? Because it’s John Kerry’s motherfucking job to say something, which the press are happy to report. If you don’t say anything, they can’t report anything.

    This doesn’t excuse some of the terrible headline writing, the passive voice shit, and so on. But Democrats have to learn that politics is a contact sport and play it as such.

  56. 56.

    mali muso

    August 3, 2024 at 10:55 pm

    Working as a peace corps volunteer in Mali in the early aughts, I was lucky enough to see Jimmy and Rosalyn twice as they made annual visits to check in on the Guinea worm eradication project. The Carters made a point of having the US ambassador throw a little reception for any peace corps folks in the area to come, and gave us a talk about how proud they were of us. Just lovely people, made us proud to be representing America during a dark time (bush years, Iraq war). I hope he can hang on to vote for Kamala!!

  57. 57.

    Craig

    August 3, 2024 at 10:55 pm

    Class act that Mr. Carter. As a 12 year old in 1980 I couldn’t fathom how the American people could possibly prefer obviously fake, insincere buffoon Ronald Reagan to such a thoughtful, decent man. Clearly I didn’t yet know of H.L. Mencken. I hadn’t really experienced my fellow Americans at that point either.

  58. 58.

    Chet Murthy

    August 3, 2024 at 10:55 pm

    @Martin:

    No, it’s because it’s Democrats job to beat Trump, not theirs. They’re not supposed to be invested in the outcome

    Then we should repeal their goddamn First Amendment prrotections.  Why should they have any Constitutional protections that we lack, when they do nothing more than we do?

  59. 59.

    Martin

    August 3, 2024 at 10:57 pm

    @dmsilev: Yeah, that makes sense. Why work when you can buy. I hope they bleed them dry.

    I haven’t heard anything out of RNC coordination with down ballot races. That was the disaster looming on the horizon when Trump took over and I kind of assumed we’d start hearing about it by now.

  60. 60.

    Sister Golden Bear

    August 3, 2024 at 10:58 pm

    @danielx:

    Also, PAB will only debate Harris if she is bound and gagged before the debate begins.

    And wheeled in a la Hannibal Lecter. Because scary N-clang person.

  61. 61.

    KatKapCC

    August 3, 2024 at 10:59 pm

    @Chet Murthy: Especially considering many of them are just glorified stenographers who can’t hear any criticism over the thundering sound of their own pompous thoughts of self-deification.

  62. 62.

    M31

    August 3, 2024 at 10:59 pm

    @Ramona: there is some here:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debategate

    “In a 2005 syndicated column, Will called his role in Reagan’s debate preparation “inappropriate”, given his position as a columnist, but denied any role in stealing the briefing book.”

    I just remember it as common knowledge from back then, not sure how I learned it. And of course, Will as a GOP hack’s hack, it’s in character.

  63. 63.

    KatKapCC

    August 3, 2024 at 11:01 pm

    @Sister Golden Bear: She should walk out carrying a tray with a dish of fava beans, a bottle of ketchup, and a bottle of Chianti and hand it to him saying, “I assume this must be your favorite meal”.

  64. 64.

    dmsilev

    August 3, 2024 at 11:02 pm

    @Villago Delenda Est: Oh it gets better. I posted an excerpt in an earlier thread, but here it is again, just because it needs to be repeated:

    Bowyer instructed the organizers not to come on too strong by showing up with MAGA hats and fliers. Instead, they should research their marks and start reaching out through Facebook groups, community events, or neighborly gestures such as recommending plumbers or harp teachers. They could even arrange seemingly chance encounters on coffee runs or dog walks.

    “Some of these things sound like stalking,” one staffer whispered.

    “Professional stalkers,” his colleague joked back.

    As one slide from the training implored: “BE NORMAL. BE NORMAL. BE NORMAL.”

    Harp teachers? ‘Research their marks’? BE NORMAL.

  65. 65.

    Martin

    August 3, 2024 at 11:05 pm

    @Chet Murthy: I don’t think we’d be better off if they were invested in the outcome. I mean, some are – Fox clearly is. But we would not be better off without an independent press. They would not pick our side.

  66. 66.

    Jackie

    August 3, 2024 at 11:06 pm

    @Suzanne: My dad despised TCFG. He was 98 when TCFG was elected. We had a ritual every time I took him to the cemetery to take flowers to mom’s niche; he’d be walking with his walker, then pause to look around. I’d ask him what he was looking for, and he’d always reply “I’m looking for Trump’s grave so I can piss on it!” Sadly, Dad passed before TCFG, but I still giggle thinking of it. When TCFG is finally dead and buried, every time it rains on his grave, I’ll imagine it’s Dad peeing on TCFG’s grave.

  67. 67.

    Scout211

    August 3, 2024 at 11:07 pm

    Ugh.  The Republicans are trying their dirty tricks.  I’m livid and disgusted. The Daily Mail (I won’t link) has a story up about the affair that ended Doug Emhoff’s first marriage.  He has released good statement and I will link to that.

    (CNN)“During my first marriage, Kerstin and I went through some tough times on account of my actions. I took responsibility, and in the years since, we worked through things as a family and have come out stronger on the other side,” Emhoff said in a statement provided exclusively to CNN.

    The statement comes after the Daily Mail reported that Emhoff had a relationship with one of his then-young daughter’s teachers, which resulted in the end of his first marriage.

    I shouldn’t be surprised but I am disgusted.  I guess to the tabloid press, the second husband’s former marital problems are more scandalous to them than Trump’s  well documented scandalous sexual history and multiple marriages for the past 50 years.  WTF!

    Edited for clarity

  68. 68.

    Sister Golden Bear

    August 3, 2024 at 11:07 pm

    @Jay:

    $450K spend on “employee appreciation Day”.

    How many pizzas are they buying? /s

  69. 69.

    Chet Murthy

    August 3, 2024 at 11:07 pm

    @Martin: I understand what you’re saying: the press isn’t independent, they’re biased towards the owners, and the goddamn Mobile Bandits at that.  My response would be that *their Constitutionally-mandated role* is to be biased towards the preservation of our Republic.  And so I stand pat that we need to remove their protections.  Let them be subject to the same rules about libel, false statements, as all the rest of us.

  70. 70.

    comrade scotts agenda of rage

    August 3, 2024 at 11:07 pm

    @dmsilev:

    The Post had an article this morning about how the Trump campaign is basically outsourcing most of their GOTV to external organizations like Turning Point.

    It’s not even “basically”.  I dropped a number of links a couple of weeks back about how basically the Orange Fart Cloud’s campaign is outsourcing all of it’s GOTV efforts to what is, to anybody else’s estimation, a grifting outfit.

    Dems got this down in terms of process and organization, although that clearly varies *greatly* state-by-state.  Plus all that non-Soros-everyday-people-monies that’s rolling in.

    I know at least Felonious D’s bottom is 40% of the vote.  Keeping it at 40-47% in the swing states (my vote is pointless but I don’t care) with our own processes in place gives one hope.

  71. 71.

    narya

    August 3, 2024 at 11:08 pm

    My first vote ever was for Carter. I remember listening to a radio broadcast of him and Roslyn walking to the WH. After Nixon, it was cleansing.

  72. 72.

    BR

    August 3, 2024 at 11:09 pm

    @Jackie:

    I have a similar story — my grandfather in law before he passed away last year at ~101 years old was as active as anyone. Lived many lives over his life, including being a WW2 vet. In the 2020 primary, I remember him being asked by my mother in law who he was supporting, and without hesitation he said “I like that Kamala Harris”. I have to admit I was pleasantly surprised.

  73. 73.

    Sister Golden Bear

    August 3, 2024 at 11:13 pm

    @KatKapCC: And a piece of liver, burnt to a crisp.

  74. 74.

    comrade scotts agenda of rage

    August 3, 2024 at 11:13 pm

    @narya:

    Same here.  I worked in the dishroom in the dorm cafeteria at CU-Boulder during the 1980 campaign and wore a waterproof apron (or wtf it was called) that I’d drawn a mushroom cloud (that upon memory, was pretty phalic) on with some anti-Reagan quip, oh yeah, “Ronald Raygun, Fascist Gun in the West”

    We had a pretty great dorm cafeteria manager at the time (little did I know that he would turn out to be one of my best bosses ever over the next 40+ years of work) who indulged us screaming libruls our free speech.

  75. 75.

    Jay

    August 3, 2024 at 11:15 pm

    @Sister Golden Bear:

    Silly Rabbit, Faculty and Management don’t get pizza’s.

    At the Orange, “Appreciation Day” was pizza and pop, with no accommodations for vegans, vegetarians, Muslims which was about 1/4 of our staff.

  76. 76.

    Sister Golden Bear

    August 3, 2024 at 11:15 pm

    @Villago Delenda Est: @comrade scotts agenda of rage:

    And you can be absolutely sure Trump is making sure Kirk etc. are skimming a (majority) percentage for him as well.

  77. 77.

    BR

    August 3, 2024 at 11:16 pm

    @Martin:

    This doesn’t excuse some of the terrible headline writing, the passive voice shit, and so on. But Democrats have to learn that politics is a contact sport and play it as such.

    I think you’re mostly right about why they’re changing headlines now — because Harris’s campaign is doing a great job of punching back — but it’s also pretty clear the NYT political staff and for sure Sulzberger are in the tank for Trump. They have multiple Trump whisperers on staff who soften up anything he says, and they will print anything he says as if it’s true and only clean it up afterwards. There’s a willful gullibility that press isn’t supposed to have, unless the goal is a race to the bottom where the only thing is who can get away with the most blatant lies.

  78. 78.

    BR

    August 3, 2024 at 11:18 pm

    I’m curious if Florida folks think there’s a chance to eke out a win for Harris and the senate seat given the abortion referendum on the ballot.

  79. 79.

    wjca

    August 3, 2024 at 11:20 pm

    @Martin: I haven’t heard anything out of RNC coordination with down ballot races. That was the disaster looming on the horizon when Trump took over and I kind of assumed we’d start hearing about it by now.

    Ah, but is it news?  I mean, if the Democrats win an unexpectedly large number of those races, it will doubtless be highlighted in the after-the-fact analysis.  But right now, the Presidential race is where all the drama is.  And, except for the occasional “feel good” story, if it ain’t dramatic, it ain’t news.

  80. 80.

    Sister Golden Bear

    August 3, 2024 at 11:20 pm

    And now for lighter news — since it’s Balloon Juice After Dark — Olympic Pole Vaulter Undone By His Bulge (video at the link)

    Poor guy is never gonna live it down—or have a great story for potential hook-ups during the rest of the games.

  81. 81.

    Jay

    August 3, 2024 at 11:22 pm

    @Sister Golden Bear:

    Or the rest of his life.

  82. 82.

    different-church-lady

    August 3, 2024 at 11:23 pm

    @Sister Golden Bear: At long last we have a new “…and the agony of defeat!”

  83. 83.

    rikyrah

    August 3, 2024 at 11:24 pm

    @bbleh:

    They were being  called on their shyt. 😠

  84. 84.

    Villago Delenda Est

    August 3, 2024 at 11:25 pm

    @Scout211: The Murdoch media empire is scandal sheet tabloid based.  And utterly ethics free.

  85. 85.

    Villago Delenda Est

    August 3, 2024 at 11:27 pm

    @wjca: if it ain’t dramatic, it ain’t news.

    It’s all about generating clicks and ratings.  Nothing more.  As far as the MSM is concerned, thoughtful actual journalism is dead.

  86. 86.

    rikyrah

    August 3, 2024 at 11:28 pm

     

    DrJackBrown 🌊 (@DrGJackBrown) posted at 9:46 PM on Sat, Aug 03, 2024:
    “If he [Trump] will talk about the most power black woman in the world this way, just imagine what he says behind closed doors about the rest of us.”

    Rep. Jasmine Crockett
    (https://x.com/DrGJackBrown/status/1819927774565654814?s=02)

  87. 87.

    Timill

    August 3, 2024 at 11:33 pm

    @comrade scotts agenda of rage: The  Alferd Packer?

  88. 88.

    narya

    August 3, 2024 at 11:34 pm

    @comrade scotts agenda of rage: I still have horrible memories of the 1980 election. I was in college (Oberlin…).

  89. 89.

    HumboldtBlue

    August 3, 2024 at 11:34 pm

    Just over a year ago, we lost Sinéad O’Connor, there will never be a better version of The Foggy Dew.

    Never.

  90. 90.

    BR

    August 3, 2024 at 11:42 pm

    @Scout211:

    It tells me even more about Harris herself because Doug’s ex praised her not in generic ways but very specifically as a co-parent (while notably not saying anything about Doug). That’s a tough endorsement to get, all the more so given the circumstances.

  91. 91.

    Chet Murthy

    August 3, 2024 at 11:43 pm

    @BR: There’s a story that when Doug started dating Kamala, his ex told him “don’t fuck this up, she’s the one”.   Or something like that.

  92. 92.

    KatKapCC

    August 3, 2024 at 11:46 pm

    @rikyrah: THIS PART.

  93. 93.

    Martin

    August 3, 2024 at 11:49 pm

    @wjca: Well, it’ll be news if downticket campaigns start talking about it. There’s not really any way for the media to know about that otherwise until we get end of quarter reports.

  94. 94.

    KatKapCC

    August 3, 2024 at 11:51 pm

    @HumboldtBlue: I rewatched this on the one-year anniversary: 1,000 Dubliners sing “Nothing Compares 2 U”. Still makes me tear up.

  95. 95.

    eclare

    August 3, 2024 at 11:52 pm

    @BR:

    Legal pot is also on the ballot.

  96. 96.

    Martin

    August 3, 2024 at 11:54 pm

    @BR: Polls so far show it Trump +7 or thereabouts. Polls don’t seem to be particularly high quality. You can’t really judge the race until you work out the effect of the ballot initiatives (there’s one on weed as well, I think) on turnout

    I’ll add that Scott is only +4. That’s pretty shit for an incumbent.

  97. 97.

    eclare

    August 3, 2024 at 11:55 pm

    @rikyrah:

    So true.

  98. 98.

    BR

    August 3, 2024 at 11:57 pm

    @eclare: ​

    Oh wow, with those two referendums on the ballot, Florida is an opportunity this year if there ever was one. Especially if Harris has someone on her ticket who has championed cannabis legalization because they’ll be a more compelling messenger than she will be (given her prosecutor background).

    I’ve said for a long time the way to get young men to vote Dem is to champion cannabis legalization. I thought I was in my own bubble on this, but the other day I accidentally followed a link to a youtube video from some 20-something Bernie bro horseshoe lefty dudes talking about the election — a very obscure youtube channel — and one of the things they complained about was that nobody except Bernie (in their view) was talking about cannabis legalization among national Dems. (The video wasn’t about that specifically.)

  99. 99.

    eclare

    August 4, 2024 at 12:00 am

    @BR:

    Walz pushed legal weed through in MN.

    https://mn.gov/governor/newsroom/press-releases/?id=1055-579413#:~:text=View%20entire%20list-,PHOTOS%3A%20Governor%20Walz%20Signs%20Bill%20Legalizing%20Adult%2DUse%20Cannabis%20in,Minnesota%20Starting%20August%201%2C%202023&text=%5BST.,or%20resentencing%20of%20cannabis%20convictions.

  100. 100.

    Chet Murthy

    August 4, 2024 at 12:00 am

    @BR: Sigh.  yeah, nobody talks about the stuff the Biden admin is doing about this: https://apnews.com/article/marijuana-biden-dea-criminal-justice-pot-f833a8dae6ceb31a8658a5d65832a3b8

    Maybe these young men could do so, get the word out.  Sigh.

  101. 101.

    BR

    August 4, 2024 at 12:03 am

    @Chet Murthy:

    Yeah, but they won’t. They were the “Bernie is god, AOC sold us out” types. Facts aren’t their jam. (They are sadly too common.)

  102. 102.

    David 🐝KHive🐝 Koch

    August 4, 2024 at 12:05 am

    I have agreed to date Charlize Theron

  103. 103.

    HumboldtBlue

    August 4, 2024 at 12:06 am

    @Sister Golden Bear:

    I saw that last night, the comments across social media were fucking gold.

  104. 104.

    Jay

    August 4, 2024 at 12:11 am

    @David 🐝KHive🐝 Koch:

    Nice NYM change,……

  105. 105.

    Omnes Omnibus

    August 4, 2024 at 12:17 am

    This gentleman politely explains why it would be improper for Donald to change the terms of the debate.

  106. 106.

    eclare

    August 4, 2024 at 12:20 am

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    Glad I caught you, happy birthday!

  107. 107.

    Omnes Omnibus

    August 4, 2024 at 12:20 am

    @eclare: Thank you.

  108. 108.

    Jackie

    August 4, 2024 at 12:30 am

    @BR: My dad was a Clinton man; and as such, he was rooting for Hillary in 2008. BUT  once it was clear she wasn’t going to win the Democratic nomination, he put his heart and soul into embracing Obama. He was thrilled to help elect the first Black president into office – never expecting it would happen in his lifetime. He was devastated when TCFG beat Hillary – as he – as most of us did – expected to see the first woman – A CLINTON to boot! become elected. I was so worried about him. I don’t think outside of mom dying, I’d ever seen him so depressed. I know he’s “out there somewhere” doing everything he can to get Kamala elected as the first woman elected president – and her skin tone is just an added bonus in defeating TCFG.

  109. 109.

    Leto

    August 4, 2024 at 12:56 am

    @Sister Golden Bear: there’s a French swimmer who’s also gone viral for similar reasons. Looks like he’s packing an orca’s dorsal fin in his swim trunks.

  110. 110.

    eclare

    August 4, 2024 at 1:00 am

    @Leto:

    I saw that, some underwear company offered him free underwear for life.

  111. 111.

    BethanyAnne

    August 4, 2024 at 1:18 am

    @Martin: “It’s a game, and games have winners and losers. I prefer the former. How about you?”

  112. 112.

    mrmoshpotato

    August 4, 2024 at 1:19 am

    @Sister Golden Bear: Excellent!

  113. 113.

    TS

    August 4, 2024 at 1:19 am

    @wjca:

    I mean, if the Democrats win an unexpectedly large number of those races, it will doubtless be highlighted in the after-the-fact analysis.  as investigations needed into the integrity of the vote.

  114. 114.

    SFAW

    August 4, 2024 at 1:34 am

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    I had forgotten that you and SubaruDianne share a birthday (more or less).

    Happy Birthday!

  115. 115.

    SFAW

    August 4, 2024 at 1:37 am

    @Sister Golden Bear: ​
     
    Maybe I’m not looking at the video correctly, but it sure looks like it was his knee(s) that hit the bar. I mean, your version is more interesting, but …

  116. 116.

    Martin

    August 4, 2024 at 1:46 am

    @SFAW: I call it the love knee.

  117. 117.

    wjca

    August 4, 2024 at 1:51 am

    @Leto: Looks like he’s packing an orca’s dorsal fin in his swim trunks.

    Presumable repurposed as a ventral fin….

  118. 118.

    SFAW

    August 4, 2024 at 1:52 am

    @Martin: ​ Call it whatever you want, I still say it’s the first joint above the ankle, not the second. Waiting to see a vid that disproves my supposition.​ ​ ETA: OK, saw a still from another angle, and maybe I was wrong.​

  119. 119.

    KatKapCC

    August 4, 2024 at 1:57 am

    @SFAW: Um, watch this. That ain’t his knee.

  120. 120.

    KatKapCC

    August 4, 2024 at 1:57 am

    @Omnes Omnibus: Happy you-day!

  121. 121.

    SFAW

    August 4, 2024 at 2:04 am

    @KatKapCC:

    Despite my ETA in my previous comment: the vid you link to sure looks like his knee(s) hit the bar on the way up/over, and body part in question hit it on the way down. Would the bar have fallen off, just from the knee contact? No idea, but seems reasonable that it could/would. [Disclaimer: never did pole vaulting, nor any other track & field, so take my supposition with a grain of salt.] Yes, it’s more amusing if the knees didn’t hit the bar.

  122. 122.

    Martin

    August 4, 2024 at 2:14 am

    @KatKapCC: Yeah, hoggin’ the bar for sure from that angle.

  123. 123.

    HumboldtBlue

    August 4, 2024 at 2:20 am

    @KatKapCC:

    Hahahaha. no it ain’t

  124. 124.

    Jay

    August 4, 2024 at 2:22 am

    The bar says it was non-consensual, thus the disqual.

  125. 125.

    Chet Murthy

    August 4, 2024 at 2:23 am

    @HumboldtBlue: even if, especially if it was his knee, the story he’ll be tellin’ is not that.

  126. 126.

    opiejeanne

    August 4, 2024 at 2:27 am

    @Omnes Omnibus: Happy birthday!

  127. 127.

    eclare

    August 4, 2024 at 2:30 am

    @Jay:

    Hahaha…

  128. 128.

    karen marie

    August 4, 2024 at 2:32 am

    @Craig: 1976 was my first election. I voted for Carter. I was horrified by what Reagan did, and I spit in his general direction. This country makes a lot of stupid choices.

  129. 129.

    karen marie

    August 4, 2024 at 3:23 am

    @BR: The circumstances? He didn’t have the affair with Harris.

  130. 130.

    Villago Delenda Est

    August 4, 2024 at 3:32 am

    Happy birthday to the Redleg.

  131. 131.

    frosty

    August 4, 2024 at 4:13 am

    @Jay: Brilliant!

  132. 132.

    rikyrah

    August 4, 2024 at 4:45 am

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    Happy Birthday🎂🍧🌺💐🌞

  133. 133.

    JCNZ

    August 4, 2024 at 5:00 am

    @dm: Imagine everyone in that auditorium singing “Sweet Ka-ma-la! Ba! ba! ba! Good times never seemed so good!”

    (Assuming Neil Diamond was on board, that is…)

    https://www.tiktok.com/@dreamforamerica/video/7393405356308729130

  134. 134.

    JCNZ

    August 4, 2024 at 5:12 am

    @HumboldtBlue: This Is A Rebel Song is damn fine, too.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbre5Fs9m8I

    She was briefly in a psychiatric hospital in Dublin – the nuthouse, she called it. She later said that “there were more Class A drugs in that place than in Shane McGowan’ s dressing-room.”

  135. 135.

    WereBear

    August 4, 2024 at 5:20 am

    Considering all that economic anxiety, one thing I haven’t seen covered about Project 2025 is the devastating economic impact this would have.

    Imagine the worst manager you had in your life. And now clones of that manager are running the whole place.

    How long before they collapse it?

  136. 136.

    Chris Johnson

    August 4, 2024 at 6:11 am

    @different-church-lady: Ain’t de feet I saw ;)

  137. 137.

    MomSense

    August 4, 2024 at 6:41 am

    @Adam L Silverman:

    Thank you for the reminder!  One of the things my dad did that still makes me so proud was to help bring attention to what we were doing in Nicaragua that eventually exposed Iran Contra.  It wasn’t much fun having a listed number and getting all the resulting calls but we were used to it by then!

  138. 138.

    Ken

    August 4, 2024 at 6:49 am

    @WereBear: A similar line of attack: Project 2025 is what your homeowner’s association would do if they had real political power.

  139. 139.

    MomSense

    August 4, 2024 at 6:56 am

    @Martin:

    I feel much better about the campaign now that Harris brought in some Obama veterans.  They are data driven and absolutely will make decisions based on WIFT whatever it fucking takes which was our unofficial campaign motto. Also Heaven help you if you are on the nightly call and you haven’t hit your targets.

  140. 140.

    Chief Oshkosh

    August 4, 2024 at 7:12 am

    @laura: My wife and I met President and First Lady Carter some years ago at the Carter Center. Both of them were very gracious, and though getting up there in years, still super-sharp. The First Lady and my wife spent some time discussing mental health issues and justice reform. I remember my wife being impressed that the First Lady was really on top of the latest on the issues, even though she’d been “retired” from daily activities for some time.

  141. 141.

    Chief Oshkosh

    August 4, 2024 at 7:24 am

    @Martin:

    Democrats keep demanding the media do the job of attacking Trump for them. When Democrats do it themselves, the media responds to that. It’s not hard to understand.

    DougJ is on line 1 for you, Martin.

  142. 142.

    Uncle Cosmo

    August 4, 2024 at 8:01 am

    @Jay: General sentiment at the Uni, was if you really appreciated the staff you would have spent that $450k on keeping them.

    And how many of them would have been kept for another year? Even lower level staff? With salary plus benefits? Maybe 6. IOW not enough to make a goddamn difference. Perspective is important!

  143. 143.

    Sallycat

    August 4, 2024 at 12:41 pm

    @BR: I’m volunteering with the local Democratic office in Florida.  Many, many people are volunteering for the party now.  I believe there is the same excitement for Kamala Harris here as in the rest of the country.  Also we have a pro-choice measure and  a marijuana legalization measure that are both polling high.  And a good candidate against Rick Scott-Debbie Muscarsel Powell.  So we have a chance to flip the state.

  144. 144.

    Sallycat

    August 4, 2024 at 12:49 pm

    @Sallycat: I am concerned about the effects of the republican legislature’s new voter suppression laws.

  145. 145.

    dnfree

    August 4, 2024 at 1:57 pm

    @Adam L Silverman: The Carter Center is one of our donations.  We greatly respect the work done there.  Great to hear you have a connection to it.  (Also I read your daily Ukraine posts and am grateful to you for them.)

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