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Just caught the tail-end of the Harris – Walz rally, and wow, Walz hit it out of the park! He talked about freedom and the common good and hit themes that will likely appeal to normies, e.g., that people should mind their own damn business. He even worked in a reference to the sofa-shagger’s online notoriety, saying he was looking forward to debating JD Vance — that is if Vance “gets off the couch and shows up.”

I wish I’d heard more of Harris’s speech; I tuned in just when she was handing it off to Waltz, who thanked her for bringing back the joy. Anyhoo, I thought he was terrific, and I look forward to acquiring a fresh set of bumper stickers. Check out the rally vid if you missed it!

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  8. 8.

    MagdaInBlack

    I listened on my commute home. I think I had at least 3 ‘Oh Wow” moments, the couch being one of them.

    He’s the real deal, ain’t he ? 😊

  9. 9.

    Leto

    Bringing up from below:

    Amy Klobuchar: Tim works really well with strong women. His wife is a strong woman, his Lt Gov is a strong woman, and when we’ve worked together he’s been very good.

    Maybe another factor in why MVP chose him.

  10. 10.

    Mr. Bemused Senior

    @Betty Cracker: you can almost see it says “chaos”. 😁 They really are having trouble figuring out to say.

    [ETA I’m surprised they didn’t spell it KAOS /s]

  11. 11.

    SiubhanDuinne

    They were both pitch-perfect — as, by the way, was Josh Shapiro, who did 10-15 minutes before introducing the candidates. Talk about class! Talk about graciousness! He must be very disappointed at some level that he didn’t get the VP nod, but he couldn’t have given Harris and Walz a warmer welcome. I loved every minute. So fucken proud to be a Democrat.

  12. 12.

    twbrandt

    What was so striking about that rally was just how happy everyone was. It was such a contrast to the dour resentment-filled complaint festivals that are the Trump rallies.

    I am so pumped.

  15. 15.

    lamh47

    Bayby…Tim Walz KILLT it!

    Tim Walz on Republican attacks on reproductive rights: “Even if you wouldn’t make the same choice for yourselves, there’s a golden rule: mind your own damn business!”

    That a MIC drop for me…MIND YA DAMN BIDNESS!

  17. 17.

    randy khan

    @HumboldtBlue:

    That’s a hoot.  And I see they’re trying to promote a dumb nickname, which is very on brand for Team Trump, since it’s really all they have.

     

    On another, also fun, note, I know someone who went to high school in Mankato and had classes with both Walz and his wife.  She is extremely excited about him joining the ticket.  (I have been to Mankato, by the way, and it’s a university town that even had a mall back in the day.)

  19. 19.

    japa21

    This may be something that is a little bit out there, but people were worrying about PA. Watching Shapiro, I don’t think we have to worry. He will pick up PA and carry it on his shoulder across the finish line if need be.

    Okay, that wasn’t the little bit out there thing I was talking about.

    I think Walz will not only cement the upper Midwest, MN, WI and MI. I would like to see the team make a push for TX with him as the main spokesperson. HS football is holy in TX. I really think he could elevate the turnout and votes. Also, team up with Allred as 2 football buddies. The latest reputable polls I can find have Cruz and Allred in a statistical dead heat.

    I know it’s a long shot, but a small investment of time and money could have big returns.

  20. 20.

    Jeffro

    Let’s go win this thing, peeps!  GOOOOO BLUE!!!

    (I know, I know…I need a new thing…but right now I’m just kinda in a happy daze about how things are going!! =)

    Stock market bounced right back: trump sad

    trump posts weird fantasies of Joe Biden somehow reclaiming the nomination and single-handedly solving this problem for him overthrowing the entire Democratic Party: trump crazy

    90+ days out and he’s going to spiral downward so rapidly from here and man, MAN, I am ready for it.  I think a good-sized majority of the country is, too.

  23. 23.

    teakay

    Governor Walz is such a good and decent man. He has done great things in Minnesota with a very slim majority. As a Minnesotan, I am really sorry to lose him as our governor but I think he’ll be fantastic in his new role. And I am excited to have Peggy Flanagan become our first Ojibwe governor.

  24. 24.

    Elizabelle

    We have the winning team.  Makes GOTV even more important and fun.  Be like Kamala.  Be like Tim.

  25. 25.

    hrprogressive

    “Mind your own damn business. We’re not going back”

    Where has this level of enthusiasm and messaging been from Democrats my entire life????

    This is a grand slam.

  26. 26.

    Bill Arnold

    @Mr. Bemused Senior:

    you can almost see it says “chaos”.

    Yeah, clearly, but it doesn’t even make sense.
    Some googling suggests that it may be a new [felonious] Trump nickname, but that one literally styles himself as a chaos [wizard]. (He’s just a beginner at it, but he thinks he is a master.)
    Weirdly incompetent.

  27. 27.

    Elizabelle

    @teakay: Peggy Flanagan is ready for her closeup.  So excited for young women and men who get to see her and Kamala as the new normal.

  28. 28.

    lamh47

    Chile..Alyssa Farah Fowler Karen…whatever on CNN doing the usual GOP talking points and heffa can’t even say the correct name. His name is TIM Walz gurl…not MIKE!

    I turned of CNN soon as I saw Scott Jennings face on the panel.  Jennings is a P.O.S. so if/when he’s on a panel…CLICK!

  31. 31.

    The Kropenhagen Interpretation

    @lamh47: I finally pulled the trigger on getting CNN off my YouTube recommendations because their channel kept wanting to promote Jake Tapper to me.

  32. 32.

    SiubhanDuinne

    @HumboldtBlue:

    Take a close look at those faces. There are two guys kind of smiling, and they look to me as though they’re making plans to meet later for a beer. Every other person in that photo — including the candidate — looks like grim death.

    And yes, blocking the second word on the sign in a posed photo op, FFS, is simple malpractice on the Trump  campaign’s part.

  33. 33.

    dmsilev

    that is if Vance “gets off the couch and shows up.”

    It really is the joke that keeps on giving, isn’t it.

  34. 34.

    Almost Retired

    @japa21: I like this.  Think big.  Walz may help us where we least expect it.  yeah, I know the conventional pundit wisdom is that VPs don’t matter, but the conventional wisdom is overdue for a reset.  Not from the “carry the VPs own state” standpoint, but from possibly expanding the electoral map outside the VPs native state.

    I like to couch this in terms of noting that a good VP pick could provide an electoral cushion.

  35. 35.

    HumboldtBlue

    @japa21:

    Charlie Pierce just said “Coach Walz” should tour the swing states and host a Friday night football and sports talk with the locals. It would be brilliant let’s hope they start with the Kelce Brothers and their hugely popular podcast.

    I think Coach Walz should book himself onto sports-talk shows every Friday night in Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Arizona, and, what the hell, Texas. Every Friday night, from September 1 until November 6.

  36. 36.

    lamh47

    Even before this rally, I was happy by the Walz pick, glad the choice seems like a good one.

    I have never heard Shapiro until today.  He really does sound a lot like Obama.

  38. 38.

    lamh47

    CNN reports that Tim Walz disclosed to Kamala Harris’ team during the vetting process that he’s never read from a teleprompter before…once he was picked, he practiced and  practiced backstage.

  41. 41.

    Eduardo

    The corporal expression when he said: “Did you see what I did there?” is the most dad thing I ever seen ♥

    I was team Shapiro, but this is totally fine.

  44. 44.

    Almost Retired by

    @Baud:  I dare Vance to make a campaign appearance in Davenport, Iowa.  Anyone of a certain age who ever lived in the Upper Midwest will show up for the easy furniture jokes.  With a “pop” in one hand and a “maid rite” in the other.

  45. 45.

    Rabble Arouser

    @japa21: Oh, I rather like the notion of pairing him up with Allred if the numbers look right and he has the time to spare. That could get some solid traction there, I think.

  46. 46.

    suzanne

    Man, the whole couch thing has really proven to endure.

    Fun fact: when interior designers select upholstery fabrics, their durability is rated on “double rubs”, and I bet you can guess what that means. I wonder how many double rubs Vance’s couch has taken. Must be nearing end of useful life.

  50. 50.

    dmsilev

    @suzanne: It really captured an essential truth about Vance, that he’s just plain weird. Is it strictly speaking true? No. But in a deeper sense that doesn’t matter.

  54. 54.

    pacem appellant

    @hrprogressive: That’s exactly what my wife just said!

    I think it’s because Harris came of political age in CA when the Republicans locally and nationally no longer pretended to operate in good faith. There’s no Tipper Gore memories of comity. The GOP is just nasty, and when they go low, the correct response is to make couch-fucking jokes about them.

  55. 55.

    Maxim

    @japa21: I like this idea. It can’t hurt (apart from time Walz spends there that he can’t spend elsewhere), and it might help. I can see Walz coming across really well to all the sane Texans.

  57. 57.

    dhd

    @teakay: I am excited to have Peggy Flanagan become our first Ojibwe governor.

    Oh wow!  I didn’t realize this.  Between her and Wab Kinew getting elected up in Manitoba last year… it’s about time.

  58. 58.

    SuzieC

    I understand that some members of the media were pro-Shapiro.  Don’t know why, but they would have immediately turned on the Harris/Shapiro ticket and shit all over them about the youth vote and Gaza.  And to Rikryah’s excellent point from last thread, the media would have treated Shapiro as the alpha male.  The NYT was probably already teeing up posts with headlines:  Who is calling the shots, Harris or Shapiro?

  60. 60.

    HumboldtBlue

    We’ve discussed this before, but for the third consecutive week Kamala’s campaign has sucked all the oxygen from the room. No one is talking about Trump or Vance except as the jokes they are (at least on social media) and all the lights and cameras are on the Democrats as they show the country fresh new faces that elicit excitement and energy.

    Dems have caught Trump and the GOP wrong-footed AGAIN, and the excitement and the interest will remain on Harris/Walz as we head into the convention, in which the Dems will hold all the attention for another 10 days or so.

    Then, Trump gets sentenced.

  64. 64.

    geg6

    @SiubhanDuinne:

    Nah, those two guys are like”Look at us!  Pwoning the Libs!”  Fucking hysterical.  My sides hurt from laughing at them.  Sad trombones all over the place.

  66. 66.

    eclare

    @japa21:

    For those who have watched Friday Night Lights, he reminded me some of Coach Taylor.  And his wife worked at the same school, just like Tami.

    The show was very good and not just about football.  And I would bet my entire 401(k) that Walz and his wife have seen and loved it.

  67. 67.

    dm

    boosted from last thread: I bet that person who invented that couch story is kind of dazed at the way they may have influenced history.

  68. 68.

    lamh47

    @samstein

    NEW — Trump World quietly fueled last week’s anti-Shapiro whisper campaign another
    @MarcACaputo scoop.“So the Trump campaign and its allies moved to quietly kneecap Shapiro. It did so by forging a de facto alliance with the enemy of its enemy, the progressive left, which opposed Shapiro—the only Jewish candidate on Harris’s shortlist—largely because of his pro-Israel stances. The result was a swelling of progressive opposition (some of it organic, some artificially fed) that, among other things, saw Shapiro’s online critics dub him “Genocide Josh.”

    “Where we could, we amplified the leftists on Twitter. We fed Shapiro oppo [opposition research] to the media. We did what we could to create more noise and discontent,” a Trump adviser, speaking on condition of anonymity to describe internal campaign workings, told The Bulwark prior to Harris making her pick on Tuesday.”

     

    Not surprising.

    And guess what…Trump world ALSO was going to use the same “alliance” if Harris has chosen Shapiro.

    This is Chump co trying to sew discord and save face…and try to sew discord between Jewish voters and Dems…wont’ work though…with Chump at the top of the ticket

  70. 70.

    hrprogressive

    @pacem appellant: ​
     

    1000%.

    “They go low, we go high” was an awful slogan, and an awful idea.

    Much as Obama or any other politician might like to think they are “above the fray”, politics is a bare-knuckled brawl of ideas, it always has been.

    The idea that Democrats spent decades unilaterally disarming themselves has probably cost way, way more races than they dare admit to.

    Walz and Harris can throw verbal haymakers in a way that is both honest, vicious, without stooping to the types of disgusting, phony lows the fascist right engages in.

    It’s more than about time!!!

    Hit them! Hit them back! Tell everyone how fucking weird and creepy and gross they are, and how amazing reproductive freedom, school lunches, and the rule of law are all, you know, good!

  83. 83.

    Jackie

    @teakay:

    And I am excited to have Peggy Flanagan become our first Ojibwe governor.

    That’s so awesome. I posted an article on the dead thread that stated she would become the first Native American governor in the NATION!

    How proud and excited you and your fellow Minnesotans are/will be!

  87. 87.

    BR

    @hrprogressive: ​

    “Mind your own damn business. We’re not going back”

    This does it for me. And what is also great about it is those lines feel in a very real way coming from each of Walz and Harris’ respective personal perspectives and experiences. They aren’t bland poll tested slogans even though they are slogans.

  88. 88.

    The Kropenhagen Interpretation

    @dmsilev: It isn’t about whether he fucked couches, which would be totally OK, it’s just fun to call him a couch fucker.

  92. 92.

    Sure Lurkalot

    @BR:

    And he’s just echoing freedom as a theme that Biden and Harris have been using quite a while — I think Dems in general have reclaimed it.

    Yes! I understand this election is a fight for democracy but like the birth of this nation, freedom comes first (the Declaration of Independence), so democracy has a chance to blossom.

  93. 93.

    The Kropenhagen Interpretation

    @BR: @hrprogressive: “Mind your own damn business. We’re not going back”

    I love the defiance in the face of some weird-ass cruelty. And it speaks to so many issues.

  94. 94.

    BellaPea

    Well, my husband has voted for Republicans all of his adult life. He despises Trump and has never voted for him. He was already leaning towards Kamala and then he watched Walz’s speech tonight and was blown away. He is all in for Dems. I know that just a personal thing, but I hope there are many like him out there who get caught up in the energy and enthusiasm we are seeing right now.

  95. 95.

    eclare

    @dm:

    It’s not invented.  The couch story was in the original hardback version of Vance’s book.  It was removed from later editions, presumably because he also called his friends couch fuckers.  I bet more than one threatened to sue.

  97. 97.

    sdhays

    So, where Trump in all this? On the shitter at Mar-a-Lago, napping in between unhinged Xitts?

  99. 99.

    hueyplong

    I think he fucked a couch and know that a lot of other people think so too.

    Sincerely,

    Low info voters.

  100. 100.

    Drunkenhausfrau

    We REALLY need merch that says “MIND YOUR OWN DAMN BUSINESS” Harris Walz 2024.

  102. 102.

    BR

    @BellaPea:

    That’s great. I’m curious to know more about his gut reaction to Walz (and Harris), because I can’t get myself into the mindset of a never Trumper Republican as someone who doesn’t know any in real life.

  103. 103.

    Steve LaBonne

    @lamh47: They were unprepared for Harris, and then they were unprepared for Walz. Their incompetence is a gift to us all.

  108. 108.

    Almost Retired

    @eclare: I wish it were true but the couch story does seem to be invented out of full fuckable cloth.  I abandoned the stupid book midstream when he complained about people on public assistance buying TBones, but it initially seemed credible to me.  No meme like that goes viral without some inherent credibility.

    ETA. I think the original couch poster admitted it was satire.  But wow.

  110. 110.

    danielx

    The FNYT editorial staff must be going apeshit about now. They want SO BADLY to write about “Dems In Disarray!” and it ain’t happening. And the contrast between Cranky Nutcase Old Sonofabitch and Harris/Walz is cosmic.

  113. 113.

    Sister Golden Bear

    What people may not know about Walz is that he was one of the most protective governors towards trans people, even protecting those coming from across state lines.

    Also too, next Tuesday there’s going to be a Trans Folks for Harris Zoom call. I don’t expect it to raise the sort of cash we’ve seen from similar calls — because we’re much smaller in numbers, and the vast majority of trans people make far fewer than cis people thanks to job discrimination. But we’ll be there to support.

  115. 115.

    Phein64

    @Captain C: I think Chelsea Handler’s response is still the best:

    “And before you tell me he didn’t really fuck a couch, spare me. I grew up in New Jersey in the ’80s where everyone had a couch in their basement and I know a couch fucker when I see one.”

  116. 116.

    dm

    @eclare: if so, those are first editions that will sell at a premium.

    Humphrey Bogart, pushes glasses up nose, speaks nasally, “I’m looking for a first edition Hillbilly Elegy — the one with the couch on page 182”

    Book store clerk, dubiously, checks reference, “There is no such edition….”

  119. 119.

    BR

    @Almost Retired:
    @Captain C:
    Exactly. That’s what the creator of the couch meme said:

    Rick cites a few “highbrow” influences on the substance and phrasing of the X post, saying that he listed page numbers from “Hillbilly Elegy” that purportedly described the tryst as authors Jorge Luis Borges and John Fowles did to lend authenticity to their own fiction.

    “It’s something I’ve found funny my entire life,” he said.

    He also said the fictitious notion of Vance having sex with a couch cushions reveals what legendary German filmmaker Werner Herzog calls an “ecstatic truth,” which the legendary filmmaker describes as “a kind of truth that is the enemy of the merely factual,” encompassing falsehoods that “make some essence of the man visible.”

    https://www.rawstory.com/news/source-of-viral-rumor-about-jd-vance-and-couches-explains-himself/

  121. 121.

    counterfactual

    @lamh47: Somewhere in Moscow, an FSB analyst is making sure his windows are locked…

    Putin must be as baffled as Trump is, nothing in the agitprop book is working.

  122. 122.

    SiubhanDuinne

    @dhd:

    Wab Kinew is the cousin of one of my closest friends. I can’t wait to watch Wab and Peggy work together on trans-border initiatives. Makes me sad that I’m not still employed by the Canadian government.

  123. 123.

    hueyplong

    @dm: And then we go see young Dorothy Malone at the Acme Book Store

    Yikes.  Didn’t think I’d be second on that one.

  125. 125.

    Betty

    @lamh47: One of the things about him that bothers me. He is clearly imitating the Obama speech patterns. Seems inauthentic.

  128. 128.

    Leto

    @Almost Retired: like all good tall tales, it has a kernel of truth. And as Suzanne said, it feels true because he is a deeply weird dude. And it’ll continue to have legs because one of the best things we can do to these fascist pricks is laugh at them, continuously.

    Mel Brooks was once asked how he, as a Jewish man, was able to make so many silly jokes about Nazis. He said that evil people enjoy being portrayed as villains, but they detest being made out to look like fools.

  132. 132.

    Leto

    @Omnes Omnibus: it really, really is.

    Edit: goes back to joy. Having a leader who can just laugh at the little silly things, who can show genuine joy and humor. It’s infectious.

  133. 133.

    Uncle Cosmo

    @japa21: ​I know it’s a long shot, but a small investment of time and money could have big returns.

    Concur. Make the mortarforkers defend the state and soak up gobs of $$$ that won’t be available to use elsewhere, e.g., for Larry Hogan’s Senatorial campaign in MD. (I still worry that we’ll lose the Senate when hordes of DINOs come crawling out from under their rocks to vote against Alsobrooks.)

  140. 140.

    karen marie

    @WaterGirl: Indeed he did!

    “I gotta tell you. I can’t wait to debate the guy,” Walz said, as the audience burst into cheers. “That is, if he’s willing to get off the couch and show up.”

    Walz immediately acknowledged the “couch” dig — a reference to an internet hoax — was intentional.

    “You see what I did there?” Walz asked, touching his hand to his ear as he laughed.

     

     

    And everyone laughed and laughed!

  142. 142.

    Geoduck

    @danielx: The NYT is doing fine.

    “By choosing Tim Walz, Kamala Harris passed on an opportunity to redefine herself”

    “Walz’s Decades-Old Drunken Driving Arrest Draws New Attention”

  143. 143.

    Jackie

    @BellaPea:

    He was already leaning towards Kamala and then he watched Walz’s speech tonight and was blown away.

    I think we’re going to be AMAZED by how many NON-MAGA Midwest republicans can see themselves voting for Kamala because of Walz being a part of the Ticket. He, even as a Democrat, relates to them as a Midwestern First – sharing the same background and upbringing.

    He’s going to be one of the rare VP candidates who pull in votes.

  147. 147.

    eclare

    @dm:

    I just responded to another commenter, I was wrong.  It was all a spoof.  But wow, it is so believable!

  151. 151.

    dm

    @eclare: As Zhena Gogolia and hueyplong caught on: the Humphrey Bogart scene involves another fictitious first edition (it’s from The Big Sleep). But I was too lazy to chase down the real story.

  153. 153.

    Ishiyama

    I want to see some interviews with the members of the State Champion football team.

  154. 154.

    Ceci n est pas mon nym

    I turned to my wife and said, “I think weirdo is going to be this year’s BFD”.

    I also love that the couch jokes are clearly not going to go away. For once, joke-writers’ laziness (telling a “Biden is old” or an “Al Gore is wooden” “joke” every five seconds) is going to work in our favor.

  157. 157.

    Bill Arnold

    @BR:
    Wow! Inspired by Jorge Luis Borges, John Fowles, Werner Herzo, and Lyndon Johnson as described by Hunter S. Thompson.

  159. 159.

    Anoniminous

    Wife thinks Vance looks like the kind of guy who would have his date going to the bartender and ask for Angela.

  160. 160.

    karen marie

    @Geoduck:  Oh, come on – everyone KNOWS that Harris and Walz are the most radical far left candidates the Democrat party has ever put up.

    (You’d think people would have caught on by now that that’s the rightwing go-to accusation against Democrats.  How they’re not embarrassed to drag that canard back out every four years is beyond me.)

  161. 161.

    4D*hiker

    My courageous and brilliant 92 yo mother lived her last years in fear and anxiety because of the sewage spewed daily from Fox News. At the end of her life, we had to bury her hastily with few mourners in near-zero temps and heavy sleet during the height of Covid.  I will never forget……and never forgive……what damage Trump and his media enablers have wrought on my personal history and the history of this country.

    So, yes, I really like the Walz pick. Like others have noted, many of us recognize in him the brother, father, grandfather, or other relative which we lost to Fox News and other right-wing propaganda. The bitterness goes bone-deep.

    With Harris and Walz—and their unabashed warmth and authenticity,—we may have a chance to break this national sickness of cynicism, hate, and fear. Sweep the whole damn country on election day! Get ‘er done…

  163. 163.

    Steve LaBonne

    @Geoduck: I made the mistake of reading that Nate Cohn “redefine herself” idiocy. Jeez. I’ll never get those murdered neurons back.

  164. 164.

    Ceci n est pas mon nym

    @BR: Back in the long ago before “Jurassic Park”, Michael Crichton wrote a book called “The Andromeda Strain” about an alien virus, a potential pandemic. He included a bibliography of journal references by the fictitious scientists from the book. Teenage me was very confused about what was real and what was fake.

    It’s an effective technique is what I’m saying.

  170. 170.

    Dan B

    @japa21: I love your football strategy for Texas.

    Walz would very likely irritate Elon.  I dint believe Elon is well loved in Texas.  He’s run roughshod over some communities.

  172. 172.

    Dan B

    @HumboldtBlue: 0-27 to State Champions in one year.  Walz has got some hard work, dreaming big, enthusiasm, and believing you CAN DO IT magic up his sleeve.  Just taking those kids in Nebraska, teaching them GIS, and getting them to predict the Rwanda genocide, probably more accurately than the adult experts was another “miracle”.  I believe he’s going to do miracles to the Democratic Party, and there are lots of great people in place who are ready.

  173. 173.

    Dan B

    @Sister Golden Bear: His statement that he knew it had to be the football coach and the military guy to be the Faculty Advisor to the Gay Straight Alliance.  He has wisdom and empathy.

  174. 174.

    Manyakitty

    @lamh47: I turn off MSNBC every time that sour Susan Glasser shows up. She can keep her Biden bashing to her own miserable self.

  176. 176.

    Ruckus

    @SiubhanDuinne:

    Some really are about the entire country.

    I’d bet that he fully understands that his career is not over, and by being positive – even as he didn’t get what he wants – he will likely either have a significant appointment or will be more than well enough appreciated by everyone involved because he looked beyond his own self interest that his career will have strength and position. It is after all about the country – NOT the individual. Sure we have to like the person enough to vote for them but this is a great ticket for President and Vice President and if Josh Shapiro is the person he seems to be, he will be rewarded in some way. He is 51 yrs old, he has time on his side.

  177. 177.

    Ruckus

    @Bill Arnold:

    Shitforbrains has always been weirdly incompetent. He got a good education – and wasted it. He inherited a lot of money – and wasted most of it. He ran and won the presidency – and did worse than doing absolutely nothing. I believe that Websters will add to the meaning of worse than useless, the name – Shitforbrains

    Also, completely opposite, there is a picture on a YouTube of Harris and Walz on stage and he really reminds me of Joe Biden. Maybe a younger Joe. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8dyF0NwZrU

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    Betsy

    Thanks for the recommendation, Betty.  I enjoyed the heck out of the rally video.

    And all day I’ve been cackling with glee as I learn more and more about Walz, delighting in how he will confound and annoy the Republican campaigns.

    All this and he’s a butter-carver, too!

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