Trump just gave a trainwreck of a news conference where he was unhinged, meandering, and he looked like shit. Key points:
- Bullshitted about mifepristone because he clearly didn’t know what it was.
- Said he could have done “terrible things” to Hillary Clinton but didn’t want to see the wife of a president go to jail.
- Said he had a “positive” inflation, a perfect number.
- Got all wrapped up in crowd size and said his crowd at the Washington Monument was bigger than MLK’s. Said in history nobody’s had crowds like him. 88K in S Carolina, for example.
- Doubled down on the Is Kamala Black? thing. “”I think it’s very disrespectful to both” (Indian or Black).
- Said Walz is “heavy into the transgender world.”
There’s a lot more but I can’t stand looking at him anymore. The one possible piece of news is that he agreed to the already agreed-upon debate on 9/10 on ABC but who knows if he’ll show for that.
Van Buren
Will the media notice?
H.E.Wolf
Let’s work as if he’s functional, and give the Democrats a blowout landslide victory, up and down the ballot, in November.
HumboldtBlue
“What a stupid question.”
That was… that… was something.
comrade scotts agenda of rage
…and FTFNYT will now begin it’s 190+ series of reports on the Orange Fart Cloud’s age and obvious mental decline…
In a sci-fi novel waiting to be written.
Chris
More to the point, it’s the kind of performance that, if the mainstream media wasn’t a bought-and-paid for Republican project, would lead to a month of wall-to-wall front-page-above-the-fold articles screaming hysterically that Trump has to step down, breathlessly repeating every expression of concern from every deputy junior office aide, and making them up if there aren’t enough of them.
But of course they can’t do that. That’d be biased.
Omnes Omnibus
@H.E.Wolf: This!
Villago Delenda Est
He.Is.Not.Sane
Baud
“Why Trump withdrawing after Biden withdrew would set a bad precedent.” /NYT
Leto
@Villago Delenda Est: Just like JV, he’s so damned weird.
suzanne
He also apparently thinks that asylum seekers….. are being let out of insane asylums….. and coming across the border.
dmsilev
Very stable. Very genius.
sixthdoctor
Christ, I just wish he’d go away, but if he’s going to hang around, the least he can do is disintegrate in front of our eyes before getting his ass thrown in jail.
NaijaGal
He can’t handle the reduced attention but doesn’t realize that truly undecided voters are repulsed by whatever that was.
dmsilev
@suzanne: Maybe he confused Batman Begins with actual reality?
suzanne
@dmsilev: He’s an idiot and he doesn’t know what words mean.
KatKapCC
I hate him so much.
NotMax
The longer the tie, the smaller the brain.
;)
BR
I still think it’s a gift to our side that he did this press conference today. People don’t like him the more they see of him. The press was clearly ready to turn on Harris, and Trump gave them something new to focus on — him — and while the media will dutifully report on his nonsense, the public is tired of Trump’s nonsense so it will just eat up a news cycle that otherwise would have been attacks on Walz.
What Have The Romans Ever Done for Us?
@Van Buren: I did see a Chyron on MSNBC that said something to the effect that “Harris accepts UAW endorsement. Trump gives rambling press conference.” So the media is noticing a little.
Eduardo
Because open thread: Dow Jones down 1.57% and SP 500 down 1.07% in the last 5 days as a consequence of Kamala’s economic meltdown of 2024.
Terrible.
Omnes Omnibus
@NotMax: Explain George Will’s bow ties.
laura
Was today the day he pivoted to “presidential?”
Leto
Wonder if our stenographers will ask him where his ear diaper is? Just all healed up now, are we? Ok…
3Sice
That was weird.
Trivia Man
Serbia is hanging tough, still a few minutes left for a miracle upset in basketball.
Juju
@Omnes Omnibus: Flashbacks to being mommy’s cutest little gentleman?
NaijaGal
On vacation starting today. Will be hanging out for a few days with friends who are focused on our mutual friend’s birthday shenanigans, not politics, so I’m getting my balloon juice fix now.
Steve in the ATL
@Omnes Omnibus: beat me to it, you bastard!
hrprogressive
Between the Project 2025 Road to Fascism, and things like ALEC or whatever other bullshit Fascist circlejerks put together for “model legislation”, the reason nobody cares about how demented he sounds is because Trump, the person, is simply a means to an end.
He’s a figurehead. They could have the robotic body of Spiro Agnew as POTUS and as long as the entity at the White House rubber stamps whatever they put in front of them.
The corprofascists have bought and sold enough Congresspeople to get what they want too, mostly, so again, for them, whether it’s Trump, the Fauxbilly Fascist, or a dried up pile of leaves, the entity doesn’t matter to them.
The end goal does.
raven
@Trivia Man: xin loi
NaijaGal
@hrprogressive: Wonder what they’ll do after he loses. None of the current crop of MAGAticians has his hold on the base. I’m sure they’ll figure out something. Unfortunately.
PaulWartenberg
How many times does it have to get pointed out that the DEMOCRATIC PARTY is the one that’s actually responsible and answering to the voters while the REPUBLICAN PARTY is a chaotic mess that shouldn’t even be taken seriously as a party anymore?
Just stop fcking voting for Republicans, everybody. They’re broken, corrupt to the core, and eager to destroy everything if it means only they get to rule over the ashes.
Another Scott
I think he, and the rest of the planet, would be happier if he were sent to his own IMAX theatre every day where he could watch AI generated movies of “hundreds of thousands” in his cult singing his praises while he rambles on for a couple of hours on how great he is and how everyone else treats him so unfairly.
He’s such a baby.
A dangerous baby, but a baby nonetheless.
Grr…,
Scott.
Trollhattan
@NaijaGal:
Sounds great!
Exchanging weekend plans with the gal at the allergy clinic today she said, “Saturday is my daughter’s third birthday so I’ll be surrounded by screaming toddlers for a few hours, then drunk adults the rest of the day.”
Relatable.
catclub
@Villago Delenda Est: George Conway’s anti-Psychopath website/PAC is fun.
p.a.
A functioning press would not just say he is demented, they’d harangue Republicans nation wide to the tune of “what are you going to do about this!?!?” But (h/t) Sadly, No.
Matt McIrvin
@laura: where’s Megan Amram when we need her?
HumboldtBlue
@Trivia Man:
WHAT A GAME!!!
NotMax
@Omnes Omnibus
From State and Main:
zhena gogolia
@Baud: Take that to the bank!
NaijaGal
@Trollhattan: I’d take the screaming toddlers over the drunk adults but I’m weird that way :).
Mike E
@Trivia Man: fuck Serbia.
comrade scotts agenda of rage
@PaulWartenberg:
But they hate the people we (‘we’ meaning the political right, not “we people ostensibly on the left”) hate. Nothing else matters.
Baud
Holy cow.
Matt McIrvin
@What Have The Romans Ever Done for Us?: The Washington Post was live blogging fact checks, making it clear that basically nothing he said was true and much of it was insane. It was pretty good actually.
zhena gogolia
@Baud: What’s that reacting to?
Baud
@Matt McIrvin:
“That was bullshit.”
Ctrl + C
Ctrl + V
Ctrl + V
Ctrl + V
Ctrl + V
…..
NotMax
@Another Scott
All together now: “No, Trelane.”
:)
Baud
@zhena gogolia:
Olympics basketball
Sid_Viscous
This “news conference” wasn’t so much of a train wreck as a ship wreck. Train wrecks happen much more quickly and that’s not what occurs when Grampy speaks.
I think what we just endured was identical to what people sitting at his table hear when’s bloviating over dinner at Mar-a-Lago.
zhena gogolia
@Baud: Oh. I was hoping Trump had exploded.
Omnes Omnibus
@Steve in the ATL: It is worrisome.
p.a.
Can you imagine if he drank?🤔😳😂
KatKapCC
@zhena gogolia: ROFL!!
Baud
@p.a.:
It’d probably be an improvement.
catclub
@BR: …well, the headline at CNN was “Trump criticizes Harris, Biden and Walz” which is very much not “Old man yells at clouds” but the subhead was ‘In a speech filled with falsehoods, Trump calls his 2024 rival ‘incompetent’ and says economy is so bad ‘people are voting with their stomachs’
NutmegAgain
@H.E.Wolf: Agreed. But I think the Dems response to ths kind of garbage flow needs to address the fact that he evidently has mushrooms with his breakfast hamberder. If the press won’t highlight it, we need to.
Omnes Omnibus
@zhena gogolia: Like Mr Creosote?
KatKapCC
@p.a.: You know, Trump himself said that once, and it was the one and only time he ever said anything that was 1) actually a bit humorous, and 2) self-deprecating. It was at least a few years ago, I think, he was doing some rally speech or whatever, and I don’t know how he got onto the topic, but he kind of stopped himself and said something like “Jeez, could you imagine what I’d be like if I drank?” I was amazed that he was actually very slightly poking fun at himself and that it was mildly amusing.
Captain C
@hrprogressive:
I read that as coprofascists, as in coprophages.
NaijaGal
@KatKapCC: Link because I find that impossible to believe…
comrade scotts agenda of rage
@NutmegAgain:
Shrooms might actually help him.
‘Help’ being a relative term.
Trivia Man
@raven: that’s why I hate US basketball in the Olympics. Poor sportsmanship.
Side note: LeBron still GOAT
Bill Arnold
In case this hasn’t yet been linked,
Street food: Robert F Kennedy Jr boasts of ‘a freezer full of roadkill’ (Martin Pengelly, The Guardian, 8 Aug 2024)
There is some nuance:
catclub
I would say he did it in response to that HarrisHQ post of 6 or 7 Harris events in swing states this week and his one event in Montana. Is DonOLD too tired?
rikyrah
DFW Sports 4Life (@Kennymack1971) posted at 3:35 PM on Thu, Aug 08, 2024:
I’ve already seen some grumping about this but I think what’s really bothering the Beltway Media is that the Harris Walz campaign comms has zero fucks to give about showing Dolt 45 an ounce of respect or treating him like a normal candidate. It’s up.
(https://x.com/Kennymack1971/status/1821646440436760636?s=03)
Captain C
@Bill Arnold: Yeah, I’m sure it’s only for his birds.
Wave Function Collapse
So should we call his demonstration of astonishing rhetorical skills a “detour de force?”
Jackie
Anybody have any insight of how Faux and Newsmax are spinning the shitshow called a press conference?
NaijaGal
@Bill Arnold: The non-Democratic presidential candidates are trying to “out weird” each other aren’t they? I see him eating into Trump’s vote share for sure.
brendancalling
I hope he does a
pressgrievance conference everyday! Maybe even few twice a day!Because that was nucking futs!
rikyrah
uh huh
uh huh
Lawrence O’Donnell (@Lawrence) posted at 1:58 PM on Thu, Aug 08, 2024:
Compare the tame (fearful?) behavior of reporters in Trump “press conference” to reporters behavior in Biden White House press briefings.
Trump has been given special treatment by media from day one and still gets it.
(https://x.com/Lawrence/status/1821622095396176286?t=YGL3vmNQtctyUJS4P5jFtQ&s=03)
Deputinize Eurasia from the Kuriles to St Petersburg
“Ahh, but the rallies! That’s – that’s where I had them. They laughed at me and made jokes, but I proved beyond the shadow of a doubt and with – geometric logic – that my rallies had more people! And I’d have PRODUCED those numbers if the terrible reporters didn’t lie! I, I, I know now they were only trying to keep me from winning -…”
Citizen Alan
@NotMax: Matt Smith’s Doctor rescued the bow tie for me. Before him, I thought anyone who wore a bow tie was presumptively evil.
HumboldtBlue
Exclusive | Videos Show Police at Trump Rally Airing Frustration With Secret Service
So it really was staged, wasn’t it?
KatKapCC
@NaijaGal: I don’t even remember when or where it was, so no idea how to find a link. All I can tell you is I remember him saying it. I’m not gonna sit here making things up to make him look better, LOL.
rikyrah
Skeptical Brotha (@skepticalbrotha) posted at 2:49 PM on Thu, Aug 08, 2024:
Every network not doing live fact checking of Trump is complicit with his lies. It’s been nine years of this. It’s not like they don’t know. No person of color would be taken seriously as a candidate with this level of lying and criminality.
(https://x.com/skepticalbrotha/status/1821634932646801859?t=pgQg4bnrSh4jpAQBC83p2g&s=03)
cain
@comrade scotts agenda of rage:
Oh it gets better, here is what NYT took out of that insane press release:
https://twitter.com/JimTragos/status/1821627894806016050
They are actively covering from him. They went after Biden like a devilish asshole for anything.
Gonna keep saying it – unsubscribe NOW.
Splitting Image
@Citizen Alan:
Surely not Opus!
rikyrah
@hrprogressive:
Keep telling that truth
UncleEbeneezer
@KatKapCC: This is the one thing we can all, truly agree on. And this is why it needs to be front and center in Dem campaigns.
NotMax
@Bill Arnold
“Anything to check in before your flight, Mr. K?”
“No, I just have this carrion bag.”
UncleEbeneezer
@Splitting Image: Or Pee Wee Herman!
Mike in Pasadena
@Leto: that’s Shady Vance, not JD
NaijaGal
@NotMax: I LOL’d.
Citizen Alan
@Splitting Image: Opus came long before Tucker Carlson (and before I became aware of George Will). Though I might have had grudging respect for a conservative who, like Opus, wore a bow tie and nothing else.
NotMax
@Citizen Alan
Bill Nye being an exception to the rule.
;)
Steve LaBonne
@BR: Josh Marshall suggested on Xitter that the Harris campaign should pay him to do one of these things every day.
Captain C
@cain: As I said in a previous thread, the FTFNYT has become the Angel Hernandez of the journalism industry.
Citizen Alan
@NotMax: Perhaps that’s the distinction I was looking for!
Bowties on scientists, Time Lords, and penguins = Good!
Bowties on fascist swine = Bad!
EDITED TO ADD: Many years ago, after I graduated law school, I came back to judge an appellate advocacy competition at Ole Miss, and I sort of ripped apart a poor 2L who had the bad luck to be forced to argue the horrible amoral side of a fictitious appeal. I apologized to him afterwards and said I was probably triggered by his bow tie because he reminded me of Tucker Carlson. He said “yeah, that’s fair.”
Trivia Man
@rikyrah: ALEC was incredibly successful and is to blame for nearly al of the state level fuckery of the last 25 years. Can’t recall which states but in more than one the legislature introduced bills with the ALEC LOGO STILL ATTACHED. “Yeah, I wrote this bill”
NotMax
@Citizen Alan
On the fence when it comes to Prof. Kingsfield.
;)
Matt McIrvin
If we could rely on an insane meltdown to sink Trump he never would have won in 2016, so obviously the effect of this depends on how it’s used and reported. Hit hard.
RandomMonster
Dahmer started with roadkill, too.
bbleh
@H.E.Wolf: yes yes yes this! NO complacency! They’re busily sabotaging the electoral system as we sit. We need to SWAMP them.
Citizen Alan
@NotMax: My current employer wears a bow tie but only when he’s on the bench. Otherwise, he doesn’t wear a tie at all when he’s in the office. No idea what he wears when he’s teleworking–currently, I am dressed like Baud in my apartment office resolutely not working on the tedious matter that’s set for next Wednesday.
Baud
Dorothy A. Winsor
@Baud: I’m not sure he knows what mifepristone is.
comrade scotts agenda of rage
@Captain C:
A literal ‘inside baseball’ reference!
And so true.
AM in NC
@Trivia Man: I wasn’t able to watch. Can you say what the poor sportsmanship was?
NotMax
@Citizen Alan
From “Bye Bye Baudie.”
Goin’
steadypantsless, goin’ pantsless, goin’ pantslessPantsless for good
;.
H.E.Wolf
Yes, let’s swamp them – it’ll feel great.
It’s going to come down to turnout, as always. And we have lots of partners in GOTV! NC Black Alliance (thermometer in sidebar) is doing phenomenal outreach to students. Imagine if we help North Carolina to go blue….
KatKapCC
The Harris/Walz campaign should do an ad that’s just a series of clips from that presser interspersed with the two of them sitting at a table, staring into the camera, and then at the end, they both just sigh and say “Visit kamalaharris.com to sign up and ensure we never have to listen to anything like this again”.
sdhays
So, Kamala Harris forced Trump to come crawling back to the agreed upon debate on ABC? How’s that for a dominance move?
Trivia Man
Saw a fantastic quote from the presser today:
Q: How are you going to vote on the Florida abortion referendum?
A: “I’m going to announce that. I’m actually going to have a press conference on that at some point in the near future so I don’t want to tell you now.”
There are a ton of great snips in the Whitepeopletwitter subreddit. I don’t do twit these days so i get it places like that.
HumboldtBlue
@Dorothy A. Winsor:
He has no clue what FDA is.
sdhays
@Dorothy A. Winsor: Even now, he doesn’t know what “asylum” is. I think he must have stopped actually absorbing facts maybe 40 years ago and has just been bullshitting for the rest of his life.
Trivia Man
@AM in NC: The commenter responded to me with a two (foreign) word answer. I had to look it up and learned it is slang US soldiers used in the Vietnam War. It means “tough shit” when used by vets of that era. No content, no congratulations to a worthy opponent, no praise of specific great pays (Both Sides!) just a Boomer equivalent of today’s “Cry More” taunt.
Eric
@Baud: “Why Trump withdrawing after Biden withdrew would be bad for Democrats.” /NYT
rikyrah
The Volatile Mermaid
@OhNoSheTwitnt
Walz is the guy I would ask to walk me home after a night class in college and Vance is the guy who’s the reason I would want an escort.
1:15 PM · Aug 8, 2024
https://x.com/OhNoSheTwitnt/status/1821611244337688628
Trollhattan
@Citizen Alan: Bill Nye slander!
Judges would also accept Peewee.
New Deal democrat
Don’t know if anyone above has mentioned it already, but Trump’s offer, given his history, is clearly a bait and switch:
”The GOP presidential nominee said during a press conference at Mar-a-Lago that he’s agreed to a Sept. 4 debate on Fox News, a Sept. 10 one on NBC and a Sept. 25 debate on ABC.”
Notice that the *first* debate would be on Fox News, his preferred outlet. Once that is done, he will likely renege on doing the other two. Once he gets what he wants, he *always* stiffs the counterparty.
w_seattle
@sdhays: Like ChatGPT trained in 1980.
NotMax
@Trivia Man
Raven’s been inerting that here for years and years.
NotMax
#113: inerting = inserting
Lily
The beginning of his talk (most dangerous time ever, street violence, gangs, world war coming) isn’t only ‘vote for me to fix it.’ It’s the fake reasoning underlying what he said he wanted to do last time. Use military against citizens, outlaw protests, press freedom, rights of accused and normal elections. Deport or jail freely. Any meaning of ‘martial law’ and ‘wartime’ that furthers him and Project 2025.
Baud
Paging BC
zhena gogolia
@Omnes Omnibus: Yes!
zhena gogolia
@Wave Function Collapse: That’s good.
gene108
@hrprogressive:
Trump’s driving the car. He’s not a figurehead.
The family separation catastrophe, and the “Muslim ban” are purely Trump.
The willingness to work with Russia to win an election is purely Trump. Turning the Republican party into pro-Russia hacks is from Trump’s embrace of Putin.
Holding diplomatic relations with North Korea for photo-ops, while asking nothing in return for this gift to Kim Jung-Un, is purely Trump.
Getting Republicans to support tariffs and trade wars is Trump.
Trump controls the Republican party, and their corporate backers know this. Project 2025 was created by people Trump hired into his administration. It’s an extension of Trump’s vision for America.
Harrison Wesley
@Bill Arnold: Isn’t that the stuff he sells as ‘Camelot Carrion’?
zhena gogolia
@rikyrah: Right on.
cain
@Trivia Man: Loves how he kicks it down the road when he doesn’t know how to answer something. The media just nods along.
Baud
Just a reminder, Trump isn’t the only monster out there.
Tim C.
@Citizen Alan: What about Geography teachers named Tim? Asking for a friend.
NotMax
@zhena gogolia
With apologies to the Stones, “Here comes his 19 thousandth breakdown.”
Scuffletuffle
@Trivia Man: Lol, Raven’s like that to everyone…
Baud
raven
@Trivia Man: It means “sorry about that”. Fuck Serbia, buncha whiney bitches. “Bro, this ain’t soccer”.
Capri
The clip that I hope will go viral, but doesn’t seem to have any traction, is when Laura Ingraham asked what his pronouns were. He answered that he didn’t have any.
eclare
@NotMax:
He once said he wore a bow tie because a regular tie might dip into a beaker or the flame of a bunsen burner.
Makes sense. Decades ago a coworker slammed his tie shut in a file cabinet drawer.
catclub
So imagine Harris saying: “So, If you asked me about the peaceful transition of power, and I started telling you I had the greatest crowds ever, and nobody has recognized that, how crazy would you think I am?”
Matt McIrvin
@Capri: Bob Dole appreciates a man with no pronouns! Bob Dole thinks Bob Dole should always be Bob Dole!
raven
Talk about bad sportsmanship!!
catclub
@Matt McIrvin: I will have you know that BobDole is one word.
brendancalling
@raven: was just about to post that. The Harris campaign knows how to throw a punch!
Geminid
Trump takes his act on the road tomorrow. He’ll appear with Senate hopeful Tim Sheehy at the Bozeman, Montana Whine Festival.
catclub
@brendancalling: “We congratulate Trump for resisting the urge to mention Hannibal Lector or sharks in his recent press conference. It was still incoherent, but better than usual.”
Baud
@Geminid:
catclub
Another one: If Harris said “When you ask about gun control and I tell you about a nation that has reduced crime by 29% after improving gun control, would you ask me what nation it was?”
strange visitor (from another planet)
@Citizen Alan: came to say the exact same thing. the eleventh was cool. bowties are cool. fezzes, i dunno
@NotMax: heh. “carrion bag”. funny. if you wanna expand the range of the nyc meetup, i know a bunch of nice places in brooklyn.
Quadrillipede
The emperor isn’t wearing any clothes.
MomSense
@NotMax:
I totally thought you were going in a different direction with that. Both true and funny!!
patrick II
@suzanne:
He’s projecting.
Subsole
@Leto:
Yeah. You’d think the tech publications and medical journals would be more interested in all that cartilage spontaneously regenerating.
M31
@catclub:
“BobDole would like you know that BobDole is one word,” said BobDole.
Geminid
@Baud: The Sheehy campaign might be picking up the tab for this one. Sheehy likely has more money to spend than Trump has at this point.
I’ve been seeing Sheehy ads showing a smiling Tim Sheehy standing next to a smiling Tulsi Gabbard. Weird.
TBone
The Campaign response statement 🔥
https://x.com/TocRadio/status/1821635743393157456
Yeah, baby! 😁
White & Gold Purgatorian
@Dorothy A. Winsor: Well, no one else would get a pass for ignorance. Even if he doesn’t know what mifepristone is, someone seeking that job darned well ought to know. He bungled the answer, just about any way it could be read, and he needs to own that. The media won’t make that happen, but social media has to try.
NotMax
@eclare
Ah, reminded of a suitable clip (36:22 – 37:28).
:)
TBone
@What Have The Romans Ever Done for Us?:
Shawn Fain was excellent on with Nicole Wallace.
So was Judge Luttig.
Baud
@Geminid:
I don’t know why anyone in Montana would care about Tulsi. As you said, weird.
SatanicPanic
Whenever Trump says something like “they’re coming from countries no one ever heard of” I really want to ask -where? What countries? Can you name a few?
Darkrose
@Captain C: Oh that’s mean. But true, and very, very funny.
SiubhanDuinne
@KatKapCC:
Found it. Hope the link works.
LINK
different-church-lady
Kelly
@eclare: I have a cousin that’s a retired police detective. Always wore clip on neckties. Didn’t want to have a handle around his neck if things got sporty.
The Kropenhagen Interpretation
Countries YOU never heard of, Mr. Trump. Your ignorance is exceptional.
NotMax
@strange visitor (from another planet)
Appreciate it but (at least for me) a little cumbersome to get to, coming from Nassau county via mass transit.
JAFD is in NJ and I know another jackal is from way up in the Bronx, so Manhattan a more central compromise.
pluky
@Trivia Man: Xin loi, perhaps?
SatanicPanic
@The Kropenhagen Interpretation: he’d absolutely mention somewhere widely known.
Baud
@SatanicPanic:
The shithole countries.
topclimber
@Capri: His pronouns are I and me, repeated in an endless loop.
LesGS
@eclare: My dad was an FSO, and as a junior officer in Adana, Türkiye, one of his tasks at the end of the day was destroying sensitive, but unnecessary documents by feeding into a shredder which fed into a furnace. One evening, his tie got into shredder. He managed to stop the machine before he got hurt, and he pulled the tie, now severely mangled, out of the shredder. His secretary, seeing the results, said, “Just be happy your fly wasn’t open.”
Raven
@Trivia Man: So, you hate it but you were watching it?? Classic. Aren’t you the one bitching about Steph stealing the ball and shooting at the buzzer because, it too, was bad sportsmanship?
BR
I love that “we’re not going back” has caught on so well. At the UAW event it started spontaneously.
NotMax
@topclimber
“Only the best pronouns.”
//
The Kropenhagen Interpretation
@SatanicPanic: Countries no one ever heard of like ::checks sloppily scribbled notes:: Boliv-ee-a, Equator, Hawn-dur-ass, and Ni…the liberal media will attack me for saying this last country but I’m saying it anyway…NI(clang).
Lehrjet
@Captain C: With that crew is there a difference?
Comrade Bukharin
@Geminid: I believe Sheehy is from Minnesota and was a Navy Seal. Expect them to take the swiftboating of Walz to the next level.
Citizen Alan
@Matt McIrvin:
The Meep: “My pronouns are the definite article. I am always The Meep.”
The Doctor: “Yeah, I do that sometimes.”
Citizen Alan
@Quadrillipede: Well thanks for making me throw up in my mouth at that mental image!
Omnes Omnibus
@H.E.Wolf: I’ve been talking about trying for a landslide in earlier threads. Confidence is contagious. So is joy. Let’s use it.*
*This apparently makes me an unusual Democrat. But winning is fun. Let’s try to enjoy the ride.
cmorenc
@Matt McIrvin: …and should you happen to stop off 1-70 through Kansas at the town of Russell eg for the mcdonald’s or gas station off the exit, it is impossible to get out of there without being reminded Bigly that Russell is Bob Dole’s hometown, just as Bob Dole would tell you if Bob Dole was still alive to tell you.
schrodingers_cat
@Baud: So Trump and his minions plan to make this country subservient to Russia so no one will want to come here. Immigration problem solved. Just like that.
NotMax
@The Kropenhagen Interpretation
“L Salvador. No many people know that’s right next to K Salvador.”
//
The Kropenhagen Interpretation
@Citizen Alan: Literally the most obvious cultural touch point to understand Trump and the courtier press. No one said you have to imagine in any particular detail.
Baud
@Omnes Omnibus:
Freak.
jimmiraybob
@SatanicPanic:
Didn’t he mention the Congo the other day?
The Kropenhagen Interpretation
@Omnes Omnibus: I’ve been predicting a landslide all year through all the ups and downs. This feels like the year we can make some real progress.
strange visitor (from another planet)
@NotMax: i mean, i was thinking about places off of the (extraordinarily accessible and usually reliable) Q line, either in my neighborhood or 7th ave in the slope, near the park. there are a ton of very interesting places there, and it’s not too far off the beaten path.
BUT i can understand wanting to do midtown, so i’m flexible in that regard.
the only thing i would insist on is that we don’t do it on a sunday. sunday, the MTA is the ABSOLUTE worst.
The Kropenhagen Interpretation
@NotMax: Not to be confused with Jay Salvador who gets me the mushrooms they don’t sell at the market.
Steve LaBonne
@LesGS: I was the safety officer for years in the crime lab I worked in. Nobody should be wearing a tie in any laboratory environment or near any machinery in which it could possibly get caught. The whole idea gives me the heebie jeebies.
realbtl
I’m wondering why Bozeman one of the 2 major college towns in the state. Billings would seem a better match but I guess Bozeman is closer to Sheehy’s ranch.
Another Scott
@NotMax: :-)
Cheers,
Scott.
Hungry Joe
One demographic we shouldn’t waste time going after is the Horseshoe Left. My H.L. in-laws announced yesterday that they would never vote for Harris because “The Biden-Harris administration has been colluding with Nazis to start WWIII.” Furthermore, Biden has been “hands-down worse than Trump” when it come to the environment and austerity. So they’re ridin’ all the way with Jill Stein, a la Major Kong in “Dr. Strangelove.”
In short: hopeless.
comrade scotts agenda of rage
@cmorenc:
I seem to have spent much of the last 50 years driving by, thru and staying overnight in Russell KS.
In more recent times, they’ve put up signs that state it’s both BobDole and Arlen Specter’s home town.
https://www.csmonitor.com/1995/0516/16101.html
I didn’t realize that another scumbag billionaire, Phillip Anschutz (who’s big here because of the monies he’s dumped into CU’s medical campus among other things), is from Russell.
There is absolutely no reason to go out of one’s way to go there or stay there. OTOH, Wilson Lake State Park isn’t too far away and it’s nice.
Quinerly
@Omnes Omnibus:
I’m with you.
I actually think we have a shot at a landslide. This short campaign period will work to Harris/Walz advantage. I was saying that when I reached the conclusion 10 days after the debate that Biden had to step aside for Harris to step in.
cmorenc
@TBone: Among the shameful decisions Bush Jr inflicted upon the country is that Alito and Luttig were the two finalists he was considering for replacing retiring justice Sandra O’Connor, and he chose Alito. Luttig would of course been far more conservative than we would have liked, but he has honest integrity, unlike the arrogant hard-core partisan shitweasel Alito.
jimmiraybob
@cmorenc: “…the town of Russell (Kansas) …”
Been there. Done that. Downtown was not bad.
Baud
@Hungry Joe:
I don’t get why they have to make stuff up like MAGA. There’s plenty of real reasons you can cite to justify throwing the country under the bus.
Bill Arnold
@Harrison Wesley:
:-)
BR
Harris’s UAW speech is maybe even better than her stump speech:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVjraH4Ydxw
strange visitor (from another planet)
@Hungry Joe: i mean, WWIII started quite some time ago and there were a fuckton of hot wars (including ukraine) under fibberache’s reign…
but austerity? WTF are they even TALKING about?!?
comrade scotts agenda of rage
@Hungry Joe:
One demographic we shouldn’t waste time going after is the Horseshoe Left.
I’m still amazed at the Horseshoe Left circles I know on twitter actually have people who are claiming that they’ll vote for Harris. That being said, most are reacting as you’ve described.
Just today, one indicated that Stein should have not run for the Green Party nomination, instead letting West have it. They’re all koookoooforcocoapuffs.
Any vote we get from that quarter is nice but yeah, shouldn’t be courted. As we were taught at the USMC Command & Staff College “Never Reinforce Failure”.
Yutsano
@sdhays: “You don’t know anybody as stupid as Donald Trump*. You just don’t.”
*I now need to take a shower after typing that name.
MomSense
@Quinerly:
I do have to say that I find it delicious to think about all the time, mone, favors, and blackmail (1st impeachment) that trump and his henchmen invested in smearing Biden and his family only to have it worth nothing for the election. No wonder he is fantasizing about Biden reclaiming the nomination at the convention.
Jay
Kamala Walz,
2 steps forward,
We’re not going back.
Ishiyama
Episode 1 of Noir: Yumira Kirika breaks a goon’s neck after grabbing his necktie (Mireille’s comment: what an ungraceful way to kill).
HeleninEire
@KatKapCC: This. I (remarkably) got through 20 minutes.
Also…I was watching the PBS live blog and we could not hear the questions. So it was difficult to determine if he was actually answering the questions or just riffing.
Dumb question…of course he was just riffing.
schrodingers_cat
@Hungry Joe: We had a baby Chomsky to give us a talk at our DTC. And he was practically salivating at the thought of Trump second term. Even quoted from that awful American Carnage speech the Orange One gave at his first swearing in, approvingly.
strange visitor (from another planet)
@MomSense: “holy captain ahab, batman! they chased the wrong whale!”
comer (r-ky) and empty gee (r-oids) must be soooo pissed.
though i imagine marge kept some of her favorite hunter images as a consolation prize.
Omnes Omnibus
@Ishiyama: Villanelle uses a necktie and an elevator in Killing Eve.
KatKapCC
@SiubhanDuinne: Yes! That was it. See? Like…if you didn’t hate him, it’s almost funny, because it’s so accurate. And he never ever makes self-deprecating comments.
The Kropenhagen Interpretation
@comrade scotts agenda of rage: The “horseshoe left” is an online phantom that too many people spend too much brain power on.
Another Scott
@NaijaGal: @KatKapCC:
CNN.com (October 2018).
HTH!
Cheers,
Scott.
zhena gogolia
@schrodingers_cat: What is DTC?
Mapanghimagsik
@rikyrah: i love it
Another Scott
@Captain C: “Independent Journalism, with Judgment!!”
[ groucho-roll-eyes.gif ]
Grr…,
Scott.
strange visitor (from another planet)
@Ishiyama:
@Omnes Omnibus:
and in who am i, jackie chan takes the first guy to school using his necktie. note the second fighter’s reaction.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67LLYBhG-Og
prostratedragon
At least the albatross is impressive in flight.
The Kropenhagen Interpretation
@prostratedragon: I expected more flight in that video.
ETA: Granted that your comment absolutely provides a valid insight on the content
Citizen Alan
@SatanicPanic: Of course, he can’t! He just said no one’s ever heard of them! Probably third world shitholes like Latveria, Freedonia, and the Land of Honalee.
Bill Arnold
@Capri:
Well, that’s interesting. (video, tiktok, 0:22) In the context of that video the elderly Trump Thing’s neutral pronouns would be Ze/hir/hirs , or similar.
MomSense
@strange visitor (from another planet):
Laughing about Marge and her careful study of the dick pics. It reminded me of one time when my youngest was about six. He came home from school so excited to tell me that his friend Isak got in trouble for saying shit. Mom, Isak said shit at school and got in trouble. I didn’t want to say shit but Isak said shit. I can’t believe Isak said shit. I would never say shit at school and so on. He probably said it a dozen times telling me the story. It was so funny.
I do hope that Hunter gets a pardon out of this. The way the GOP treated him is terrible.
Hungry Joe
@The Kropenhagen Interpretation: Two of them are in my family. Nothing phantom-like about them.
MisterForkbeard
Apparently Kamala took some press questions today (FOR THE FIRST TIME, the chyron says). Did anyone get a chance to watch it?
All I saw was a clip where she says “I’m glad Donald Trump finally agreed to debate. I’m looking forward to it. I hope he shows up.” Which – yeah, good on her. That was excellent.
Captain C
@The Kropenhagen Interpretation:
@Hungry Joe:
HungryJoe, it sounds like your HL relatives have been hitting up Kropenhagen’s friend Jay Salvador way too much.
Harrison Wesley
@prostratedragon: “Al Batross? Great guy, fabulous guy. And he’s getting more and more known every day.”
The Kropenhagen Interpretation
Has anyone else experienced where when one backspaces into another line the cursor loses its position?
MisterForkbeard
Whoah. As per Kyle Griffin:
Marquette U. Law School national poll:
TWO-WAY
Kamala Harris 53%
Donald Trump 47%
MOE = 4.7, which is pretty damn high. But hot damn, a 6 point spread.
Mike E
@Citizen Alan: Hail, hail, Robonia. A land I didn’t make up 🎶
schrodingers_cat
@zhena gogolia: Democratic Town Committee
Trollhattan
@Hungry Joe: Some parallel universe in which they find themselves dwelling.
Evidently it’s International Cat Day and today’s Letters of Note is a trove of cat content. I share just one.
Frederick Law Olmsted
Letter to this son
13th May 1875
K-Mo
The ninth level of hell has TFG giving a course on economics.
The Kropenhagen Interpretation
@Hungry Joe: I have a working theory where some people hear “horseshoe left” adjacent commentary and feel compelled to assert they prefer the Republican, regardless of still fully intending to support.Democrats.
I don’t suppose you’ll need to ask how I first conceived this theory?
Geoduck
@Leto: They evidently did ask about his ear, and he babbled something about being a quick healer.
trnc
@Baud:
Regardless of how much your politics align, I don’t think I’d be driving over a legal cliff with this guy in the lead.
Bill Arnold
@topclimber:
“He” also uses “we”, e.g. before flying off to Floridan Jan 20 2021:
‘Goodbye, we love you, we’ll be back in some form,’ (20 Jan 2021, The Guardian)
HeleninEire
Has anyone posted the Harris rapid response? She wrote about how Donald finally “put on his pants” cuz he had to go before the press.
My first thought…wait is she speaking about Baud?
It’s a great response. Sorry, I’m in the subway with not great internet connection so I can’t find it.
Johnnybuck
@MisterForkbeard: Ipsos had her up by 4
Captain C
@Another Scott:
In the case of the FTFNYT it’s really, really poor judgment, and it goes back a long time (like at least a century), and getting worse on an unbroken line pretty much since, oh, the early ’90s.
Kind of like the “I’m better because I stick by my principles!” argument when those principles suck ass.
MisterForkbeard
@MisterForkbeard: Harris took questions from the press today. You can see them summarized here, and it sounds like she did very well:
https://x.com/EliStokols/status/1821664420293918917
MomSense
Since all threads are open, I ordered and assembled some rocking chairs for the front porch. Tonight I’m sitting out here watching the world go by.
Happy to report that kids ride bikes in this town. A bunch of kids just rode past with fishing rods over their shoulders. Probably coming back from the river.
In more happy news, I missed Tickles the Clown’s appearance at the library today. My mom said it was well attended.
The librarians provide free breakfast and lunch to children and teens Mon- Sat and open reading Mon- Fri 8-5. I see their cars parked at the library at 6 every morning. Librarians are the best of us.
Next Wednesday night the Elvis Impersonator will be the musical act at the river park. That I have to see.
Also, too people wave when they drive by.
Harrison Wesley
@Geoduck: I thought he was waiting for Mike Lindell’s personalized MyEarpad.
Jeffro
@Omnes Omnibus:
@Quinerly:
303 EVs (Biden 2020 + North Carolina) would be incredible!
After that, we’d need to tip Florida or Texas, so you tell me.
Trivia Man
@raven: you and i agree on many things
zhena gogolia
@schrodingers_cat: Ugh.
schrodingers_cat
@zhena gogolia: Yeah and I was one of the organizers. Double Ugh. But I did tell our chair what I thought of the speaker.
BR
The Onion:
https://www.theonion.com/screaming-trump-takes-out-frustrations-on-person-he-ass-1851617123
Baud
@schrodingers_cat:
Any follow up?
zhena gogolia
@MisterForkbeard: Good.
Jeffro
@MisterForkbeard:
amazing, right??!?
And it’s becoming clearer and clearer that even in a 3-candidate race, RFK Jr is hurting DJT
TOO BAD, SO SAD!
JoyceH
Have I mentioned lately how much I love Coach Walz? At the UAW event: “I know I’m preaching to the choir, but the choir’s gotta sing!” He gave the example that of course the UAW knows that the unions built the middle class, but they need to make sure the rest of the country knows it.
The Golux
@Citizen Alan:
My father wore bow ties, and when I had an office job in the early ’80s (shortly after he died), I screwed up my courage and started wearing them. I discovered that I liked them, and found pleasure in tying them. Now, on the (extremely) rare occasion that a tie is called for, I always wear a bow tie. Plus, David Ortiz really rocks a bow tie, though I doubt he ever ties one.
Trivia Man
@SatanicPanic: translation: anytime he says “no one ever…” it means he personally just learned about it.
I still chuckle to remember the time he told a 2016 rally crowd, in Nevada, how to pronounce Nevada. He pronounced it wrong. “Not many people know the correct way to pronounce it”
KrackenJack
@The Kropenhagen Interpretation: I chose to interpret it as a clever remark on Opus in a bowtie.
Trivia Man
@pluky: yes
BR
@JoyceH:
Some actual coach skills coming through — giving the team a pep talk to keep their energy up for the rest of the game, leave it all on the field.
Trivia Man
@Raven: yes, that was me. You also had an unhelpful one word response to my comment then. I watched hoping to see them lose. I was disappointed today but there is always the next game. Im an eternal optimist in some things.
Omnes Omnibus
@Jeffro: I want down ticket wins as well.
Central Planning
From The Tick vs Chairface Chippendale:
(A giant alligator lunges up at Arthur. It bites his tie off)
Arthur: Didn’t expect a clip-on did ya?
If you haven’t seen the animated Tick series, you’re missing out.
TBone
@HumboldtBlue: I said it was hinky right from the start, and I stand by that remark.
Quinerly
@Jeffro:
I am predicting we take NC (my home state! Go Pirates! East Carolina University, class of 1982!!) I may have spent 40 years in St. Louis. And, I may now live in New Mexico, but I was “born and breaded” in Pitt County, NC deep in tobacco, hog, and sweet potato country. My roots.)
Obama carried NC in 2008. We can do it again with Harris.
Let’s be happy and optimistic.
SiubhanDuinne
@RandomMonster:
Christ, and there’s anybody who’s surprised that a worm invaded his brain? Guessing he’s a total ambulatory meat sack of parasites. Ugh ugh ugh.
NutmegAgain
@Hungry Joe: I used to live right near Jill Stein. A few neighborhood observations:
She had an intact (not neutered) big dog–a Dane maybe (sorry to TaMara). It was aggressive, and got into tangles with other dogs being walked in the public land. It was always the other people’s (dog’s) fault.
She first ran for Governor of MA, with zero prior governance or electoral experience. Zero. After she lost that bid, she managed to get herself elected as one of 9 Selectpersons from that precinct.
And, the very worst in my eyes: she really hassled the adolescent daughter of a friend. Nasty.Kid had a small local business of dog walking. Stein was an unmitigated bitch to her. (see first item.) My friend got in touch with Stein, and you can probably predict the usefulness of that. “That didn’t happen. And if it did, it wasn’t that bad. And if it was, that’s not a big deal. And if it is, that’s not my fault.”
Stein is truly a narcissistic monster, and an asshole to boot.
Trivia Man
@The Kropenhagen Interpretation: Homer: Ha Ha! This country is called You Are Gay!
also homer: “it’s easy to miss Canada, all tucked away and hidden like that”
Quinerly
@Jeffro:
Flip Florida.
Trivia Man
@MomSense: somebody should leak teasers, public or simply private assurances to the campaign, that joe is totally considering it but just needs encouragement
Harrison Wesley
@TBone: Are you unanimous in that?
Ishiyama
@Omnes Omnibus: Noir 2001, Killing Eve 2018. You be the judge.
Doc Sardonic
@Citizen Alan: The Land of Honalee was nice, until Puff the Magic Dragon got old and failed to take in to consideration the fine print in the agreement with little Jackie Paper. That allowed Jack Paper the adult to ruin the place with tacky condominiums, low overhead outlet malls a couple crappy casinos with Jack in garish gold letters on the facade
Lyrebird
YES YES YES! Ever since I heard* @Omnes Omnibus: say “let’s run up the score” iirc, I have had that pop into my mind now and again. If you have heard the cadence for a marching band supporting a home b-ball team, (“warm up the bus!”) you know what my positive ear worm sounds like. Run up the score! Run up the score!
*”heard” = read really, ok, whatever
The message is a good one! And I got caught up enough on another writing project (for having a jerb) so I can request more postcard addressess tomorrow.
NutmegAgain
(comment #259 !!)
The Independent news outlet (in the UK) has a piece about the Dumpapalooza, the headline reads: “Trump holds seemingly pointless press conference filled with false claims.”
Would love to see US press do similar.
Kay
I’m listening to Pelosi interviewed in The New Yorker and it’s marvelous.
”You make a DECISION to win an election”
lol. She’s terrific
Ishiyama
@Jay:
2 steps forward, 1 to the left!
schrodingers_cat
@Baud: We had a meeting over a dinner to discuss the fallout.
The chair conceded that speaker was the wrong choice for our DTC. And there were other members who agreed with me
FWIW I was not even the biggest critic. Another member, called him a pompous ass.
TBone
@Harrison Wesley: both sides agree, I checked my flip side!
MomSense
@Kay:
She is the GOAT!
Omnes Omnibus
@Ishiyama: Dude, it’s not a competition.
Citizen Alan
@The Golux: My problem with the bow tie is that I just can’t tie them. I’m pretty sure it requires 11 fingers and I only have 10.
Omnes Omnibus
@Citizen Alan: Can you tie your shoes? It’s the same knot.
Harrison Wesley
@TBone: I apologize – I watched too many British comedies while I was under the influence. Somehow got shades of Mrs Slocombe in my head.
Trivia man
@MomSense: young elvis or jumpsuit elvis? Report back!
Kay
“The thing is, we had to win”
Her motto :)
schrodingers_cat
@The Golux: Most bow tie wearers IRL that I know are Republican douchebags. Good to know that there are exceptions.
Hungry Joe
@The Kropenhagen Interpretation: Sure — what the hell.
Here goes: How did you first conceive this theory?
Lyrebird
@rikyrah: As I’ve said, the double standard the press has been using even between the two older white men is at a level you could see from space. ETA: even the Chris Hayes bit seems so carefullllly measured, it galls me that he even suggested this is similar to the choices around Biden’s candidacy – not same ballpark.
My head is breaking trying to think of the scale that would be big enough to show the difference between the treatment of Mr. Convicted of 34 Felonies that Harmed Others and any candidate of color. Maybe one of our resident physicists has a handy notion.
Here’s hoping the media keep clowning themselves into more of a landslide of REASONABLE ADULTS voting for other reasonable adults great gad a mighty.
MomSense
@Trivia man:
Ooh I hadn’t considered the Elvis options!
Kay
@MomSense:
She said “I’m a San Francisco liberal so I’m allowed to criticize the family” (meaning Democrats)
David Remnick is such a good interviewer.
MisterForkbeard
Ha, Rasmussen in with a poll that says Trump is actually 5 points ahead, so there!
NaijaGal
@SiubhanDuinne: Wow. It does exist. I assume this was in defense of Kavanaugh. Figures.
FelonyGovt
@Jackie: Don’t know, but I saw a WSJ (of course) write up that made it sound completely normal. He called for 3 debates, wants more influence over the Fed, complained that Harris “hasn’t done an interview”, and although he may not be doing as well with Black women voters, he IS doing well with Black men, Hispanics and Jews…
Ishiyama
@Omnes Omnibus: Sorry. Bad manners. I will watch it.
But Noir is underappreciated for sheer elegance of plot and characterization. In 26 epic episodes.
MomSense
@Kay:
I need to find that interview and listen. I freaking love her.
NotMax
@Citizen Alan
Not to mention Lower Slobovia.
;)
BretH
FTFNBC Nightly News tonight – pulled only the coherent parts of the press conference. No viewer would ever get the idea it was anything but normal.
MisterForkbeard
@FelonyGovt: The media in general is doing a LOT of interpretation and selective editing to try and make him sound sane.
Some other outlets (Rolling Stone) are calling a spade a spade and noting that it was batshit crazy, full of lies, and that he didn’t really answer any questions.
WaterGirl
@MomSense: That all sounds lovely.
MomSense
Secretary Pete was in Maine today to tour construction of two new bridges. He received a warm welcome. Lots of great photos of his visit.
Baud
@BretH:
This is my shocked face.
japa21
@Omnes Omnibus: Which is why I am expecting a gain of 2-3 Senate seats, up to 30 seat gain in the House, several Republican super-majority states to still maybe have a GOP majority but not as large, and maybe a couple will actually switch.
And a reminder that confidence does not equal complacency.
MomSense
@WaterGirl:
All good except for the clown (shudder).
Baud
@japa21:
Where do you see Senate pickups? Our best states would be Florida and Texas. What’s the third?
Jay
Turning Point USA’s voter outreach program is going well,
very short vid,
https://nitter.poast.org/adammocklerr/status/1821187424300757138#m
KatKapCC
@NaijaGal: Glad to know you’ve accepted that I wasn’t hallucinating.
KatKapCC
@Baud:
A sentence that has never been uttered before in liberal circles.
MomSense
In fiber/campaign news. A knitter frogged a Bills and a Chiefs hat to make a Kamala beanie which she presented to Second Gentleman Doug Emhoff. He posted the video and it has caused a lot of excitement. If there is one group you need to keep on your team, it’s the knitters. I saw the video on Instagram. Not sure if it is posted anywhere else.
BR
I requested 1000 postcards to send to Arizona today. I think if me and my wife do a dozen a day, we should be set.
Baud
@KatKapCC:
It’s a bad map this year.
Jeffro
and you’ll we’ll get ’em!
YOU get a down-ticket win!
and YOU over there get a down-ticket win!!
EVERYBODY (blue) gets a down. ticket. WINNNNNNN!!!
BR
@Jay:
My mouth is agape at that video.
NotMax
Charter member of Hatred R Us.
japa21
@Baud: Just hunch. Yes the map is against us, but I wouldn’t be surprised if there are a couple special treats out there. Missouri is not outside the realm of possibility. At present, probably a 40-45% chance.
MagdaInBlack
@Jay: Time to call store security.
Jeffro
@Quinerly: if we flip Florida…hoo boy…the RWNJs will absolutely lose their shit.
Would be a true “scales falling from their eyes” moment for millions of them
NaijaGal
@Another Scott: Thank you for finding this as well.
@KatKapCC: It really seemed unbelievable to me but I stand corrected!
bbleh
@Omnes Omnibus: [Ruby Rhod voice] I want ALL the wins!
eclare
@BR:
Wow! Good for you and your wife.
I have 200 to send to NC, we can do this!
BR
@Jeffro:
Florida is expensive to run ads in, but I bet the campaign could get a lot of mileage from free media using Walz in the panhandle talking cannabis and abortion and other surrogates elsewhere. Add in that Trump has been praising Venezuelan dictators in the Orlando events, and Harris’s recent polling numbers in Miami-Dade, and there’s a chance.
eclare
@Jeffro:
Hahaha….
Baud
@japa21:
Lots of good MO jackals deserve a Senator better than Hawley.
Citizen Alan
@BR:
Why? It’s perfectly what I would expect from a MAGAt. Scum, all of them.
BR
@Citizen Alan:
Not because I expect any better than that from them, but just at the ugliness and absurdity of it all.
Soprano2
@Baud: How did I know our worthless AG Bailey was involved in this? I’m sure he’ll run on it, hating on immigrants if an issue they think is a winner for them.
Baud
@Soprano2:
It’s probably their best issue.
Omnes Omnibus
@japa21: Yep!
bbleh
@MisterForkbeard: Oh, well if Rasmussen says the Republican is ahead by 5, then it’s OVER. For the Republican, I mean.
NotMax
@Jay
Creepy Don is well-known for his outreach to women.
//
Johnnybuck
@Baud: As was 2020, 2022.. but yet, here we are.
Baud
Women’s volleyball was a hell of a match.
Baud
@Johnnybuck:
I think this is the worst of the three in the cycle. But haven’t checked recently.
Kay
Joe Rogan endorsed RFK Jr for President
Now all we need is Glenn Greenwald
Baud
@Kay:
Oh, that’s good. That has to take more from Trump than us.
I wonder if Rogan is into falconry.
Kay
Nancy Pelosi would tell young women going into politics “you need to take a punch and throw a punch, for the children”
japa21
@Baud: There have so many absolutely amazing events this year. Hell, I expect the marathon to be decided by .1 second.
Mrs Japa and I were talking about the 21 games in Tokyo and how the absence of a crowd not only hurt the athletes but also watching it from afar.
japa21
@Baud: Definitely. But lots of advantages, special amendments, not only abortion rights, are up for voting, and they are almost all things that would drive up liberal voting.
BR
@Kay:
Awesome. And John Oliver’s piece on RFK Jr will probably keep some young voters from throwing a protest vote in his direction, especially since Oliver covered RFK Jr’s stance on Gaza (which is as bad as Trump).
Baud
@japa21:
Seems like a lot of good sportsmanship all around.
Baud
@japa21:
True, the abortion amendments may be a game changer.
BR
@japa21:
With Plouffe on the campaign now, I have confidence that if the numbers in Florida show that they have a chance, he will have a game plan for exactly where they’d need to campaign to maximize the chances there.
Like I’ve said elsewhere, after the DNC, the campaign really has to use Walz to campaign to young men about cannabis — he’s the most credible messenger, and it’s a big winner of an issue.
Ken
@NotMax: So now threatening a judge on social media is bad?
Kay
@BR:
He’s so gross. All I heard when I listened to his recitation of his (lying) bear cub story is “spoiled, coddled rich boy”.
He was 60 years old when he hit the bear. These people just never grow up.
twbrandt
@Baud: he’s into bear
MomSense
@Baud:
Oh god I tried to watch Rogan’s stand up special on Netflix out of curiousity. WTAF He isn’t funny because he isn’t smart. Good comics are intelligent and keen observers. He is just below average in every way.
Uncle Cosmo
Just FTR, during the year I spent as a grad student in astrophysics, there was a research associate in the department who was known regularly to use a metal lathe in the machine shop wearing a shirt and a tie that dangled unrestrained. He stood about 6’6″ and as he carved the metal blank would bend over the spinning lathe – without ever suffering so much as a hangnail.
Johnnybuck
@Baud: We had 6 toss ups in ’22 and won 5. The math seems the same again. Obviously, Montana and Ohio seem more challenging, but I feel good about NV, AZ, MD, and MI and PA. WV is gone forever.
The Lodger
@RandomMonster: Makes me wonder if Trump’s frequent Hannibal Lecter references aren’t an attempt to normalize cannibalism? Somehow it’s less -unthinkable – than it used to be.
strange visitor (from another planet)
@MomSense: yeah, but what kind of tie was he wearing?
Uncle Cosmo
Classic Rasmussen – definitely unethical, borderline criminal. Fucks around with sample selection, question phrasing and order, turnout model and anything else he can diddle to get a result his customers want. His results get closer to realism the closer the election gets, only because he needs to look like he knows what he’s doing to ensure those same customers will hire him in off years for market research.
jonas
*headdesk
jonas
@MomSense: He’s gotten kicked in the head one too many times.
jonas
@Kay: We need the kind of leadership that places dead bear cubs in public parks. And has brain worms.
Unfortunately, this is not a Futurama episode.
jonas
@The Kropenhagen Interpretation: Don’t forget U-R-gay.
Omnes Omnibus
Isn’t it?
Omnes Omnibus
@jonas: I am pretty sure Krope doesn’t.
CaseyL
I don’t trust any individual poll, and national polls are useless. Worse than useless, since we don’t elect Presidents by popular vote and running up the score in, say, California, doesn’t count for anything elsewhere.
An Ipsos poll has gotten some attention, showing Harris taking more of a lead over Trump – again, though, just nationally.
I did find an article on the Ipsos poll on the Ipsos site, which goes into detail as to methodology. It’s a useful article to read, and you can find it here.
Their samples are all registered voters, no breakdown by likely voters. Also, Ipsos says that when uncommitteds are pressed to chose, the race ties up again – meaning, more people who are uncommitted go with Trump.
None of this makes me less nervous. In fact, it makes me more nervous. What we see is not what most Americans see, and we need to remember that.
Mr. Bemused Senior
@Citizen Alan: like the Leewit ?
wjca
Well, Alabama, do you think you can still boast “At least we’re not Mississippi “? Because Mississippi at least had the wit (so far) not to embrace this piece of stupidity.
Dan B
@Steve LaBonne: A young guy got his unbuttoned sleeve caught in a Banbury Mill in my father’s lab. Anything loose in a lab is extremely risky. My father was completely shaken.
A Banbury Mill is two steam heated rollers you feed heavy rubber slabs into.
Ken
@Mr. Bemused Senior: I just re-read the novel recently, and thought it didn’t hold up well. Too much plot-convenient “a new witch power perfect for this situation”, coupled with “and then the semi-omnipotent supernatural creature decides to rearrange everything”.
Soprano2
@Baud: Yes, we do.
Paul in KY
@SatanicPanic: Wakanda, Mordor, East Asia…
Paul in KY
@Hungry Joe: Sorry your in-laws are so stupid.