This has been so much fun so far. But as Tim Walz says, hope alone will not win this. Neither will joy. But they will surely keep us motivated to get over the finish line.
I believe this is a pre-taped convo and they are premiering the video at 2 pm. Fingers crossed no hitches as I have to run out shortly. I’m here for the recipes, LOL.
 Aug 15, 2024 ⹠#KamalaHarris #Harris2024Vice President Kamala Harris and her running mate, Minnesota Governor Tim Walz, sit down for a conversation about their historic campaign. They talk taco recipes, hot peppers, their childhoods, careers, and the rights and freedoms they want to protect.
Here’s the video:
My current swag (all on the way)
ETA: Here is the Live rally with Biden and Harris (h/t SiubhanDuinne):
Enjoy the show! Open thread
sdhays
That looks sweet. Timâs caller id issue is super relatable, and I actually would like to see some politicians try take on the scam epidemic with spoof calls.
Old School
I had to enlarge the picture to see it says “LOTUS FOR POTUS”. Nice, but they should have made it more legible.
SiubhanDuinne
Watching the rally with Biden and Harris. I teared up, a lot, when the crowd started chanting âThank you, Joe! Thank you, Joe!â Â (I think maybe he did, too.)
sixthdoctor
My wife is a CMS employee and she got an invite to the Biden/Harris drug pricing event with a guest, so that was exciting! We went to Upper Marlboro this morning and waited in line for a couple of hours, moving to a different line for CMS employees who were going to sit in the risers behind the speakers. I got up to about second in line from the security check…
…and they closed the line because the event was at capacity.
Bummed. It went from “Wow, I’m going to see the president,” to “Wow, am I going to MEET the president?” to “Welp, back to work.”
My wife did joke to her co-workers “That’s it, I’m voting for Trump,” which, to be clear, she is not doing. My response was “Eh, I still like them.”
And I’m pretty sure we saw the helicopter carrying one or both of them as we were walking back to our car.
TaMara
@SiubhanDuinne: I added that to the post! Thanks
Manyakitty
@SiubhanDuinne: I’m currently sobbing uncontrollably.
KatKapCC
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âI served in the Senate for 270 yearsâ ROFL!!!
Love when Joe makes jokes.
SiubhanDuinne
@Manyakitty:
Yeah.
RedDirtGirl
Lotus for Potus! I love that!
Mousebumples
@Manyakitty: same. It’s so great to see them together, and to see how much love Democrats have for Biden.
Elizabelle
Did he just say Donald Dump? Â Lol.
Leto
They canât stop opening their mouths:
CNN: In secretly recorded video, Project 2025 co-author says heâs drafted hundreds of executive orders for Trump
Lots, lots more at the article. Applaud the nonprofit for doing this. What actual journalism looks like.
HumboldtBlue
Gotta love Joe simply dismissing Trump like the non-entity he is. Ya love to see it.
Manyakitty
@Mousebumples: and the “Thank you, Joe!” chants made me cry even harder. This man…
Baud
@Leto:
HumboldtBlue
@Manyakitty:Â â
You prolly should have a small boat prepared ahead of the convention, because the love Joe is going to get there is going to be enormous, and I bet the tears (good tears) will be flowing.
KatKapCC
@Baud: “Nation-ism is very close to nationalism. I learned that in law school.”
Manyakitty
@HumboldtBlue: good idea. Lol. Best start hydrating now.
Leto
@Baud: I watched this, via Amazon Prime, the other day: God and Country.
Had historians, preachers, and other academics talking about the current rise of this particular strain of authoritarianism. Looked back at how the Naziâs used it, how itâs been used by conservatives, and how itâs a threat to democracy. Itâs available via a few other services, but I recommend it. Iâm sure youâll recognize more than a few speakers.
Manyakitty
@Leto: have you seen Shiny Happy People? Also along that line.
JoyceH
@HumboldtBlue: Heck, Iâm assuming that the first night of the convention, Biden will be hailed as Osiris Risen and be sent off in his golden barque to intercede for us with the gods.
David đKHiveđ Koch
@Elizabelle: He must be reading this site
Manyakitty
@JoyceH: bring it.
Leto
@Manyakitty: Iâve seen it on the homepage, just slowly making my to it.
HumboldtBlue
@JoyceH:Â â
Let’s get the French gang who designed the opening ceremonies on it stat!
Baud
@JoyceH:
I’m a little worried the delegates will gilt him right there on stage.
hueyplong
Got kind emotional watching the Kamala and Tim thing because I’m so tired of growling, bared fangs politics and the total assholes to which we are subjected on a daily basis.
Leto
No apologies for posting the whole thing.
Daily Beast: Former Student: Tim Walz Doesn’t Know He Saved My Life
âItâs pretty amazing what one person can do,â Patti Miller, a former student at Mankato West High School, told The Daily Beast.
Manyakitty
@Leto: it’s A. Lot. Woof.
Starts with the Duggars and ends with Cawthorn and Hawley.
Baud
@hueyplong:
You can take a break from Balloon Juice.
KatKapCC
I love this song but it always makes me picture the pink slime in Ghostbusters II.
Belafon
@Leto: I just realized the way to push back against the “Of course I’m a nationalist, I love my country” line. Nationalism is about putting the state over people. Rather than seeing the existence of the country as a place where people can pursue life, liberty, and happiness, it places people in the context of serving those who control the government.
Jeffro
WaPo up with 1) “trump can’t shut up, even though GOP and Fox are begging him to” and 2) “Harris now has a 2nd path to EC victory” stories.
it’s such a gooood feeling, a very fine feeling… =)
owlbrick
Those patches are awesome, but what I really want to see is a Harris-Walz letterman jacket.
trollhattan
Trump Latino voter outreach reaches a sort of zenith.
https://x.com/PapiTrumpo/status/1823847882681933932
SiubhanDuinne
@HumboldtBlue:
You remind me that I have a mega-pack of Kleenex boxes in the back of my car (they were on special a couple of weeks ago). Guess Iâd better fetch them between now and Monday.
hueyplong
@Baud: Yikes, didn’t mean to set that particular spike.
Was actually thinking of Comer and Jordan while typing it.
(If I had taken a break I wouldn’t have seen the video.)
Manyakitty
@Jeffro: shocking. Seriously.
Mousebumples
@Leto: thanks for sharing that. What a great thing about amazing teachers.
Leto
@Belafon: you got it.
@Manyakitty: Iâve seen some of the discussions here about it, and yeah, itâs gonna be a heavy one.
TaMara
Seems this is real.
Josie
Listening to the conversation between Harris and Walz, I teared up just thinking about the real goodness of the two people. They seem to be in sync with each other, and they project a caring attitude about other people. We are lucky to have them at this point in our lives. We need this.
Dave
@KatKapCC: Not many people know that; even the better educated of these creeps sound like utter loons now. They used to do a better job of wrapping their ideas in a smoke screen of verbiage and anodyne phrases.
I suppose they just may be tired of having to code switch for their normie inferiors. Plus I could totally, well someone who is a decent writer could, write a story where Trump is actually some sort of memetic psychic virus that infects those that are exposed to him for too long.
Steve
Such a pleasure to listen to: they didn’t spend a moment talking about who they hated!
Baud
@TaMara:
Also more accurate than how the press will report it.
Leto
@Mousebumples: I saw it first on Imgur, and the top comment was so spot on:
rikyrah
@Leto:
Always phucking grifting with these people.
zhena gogolia
@HumboldtBlue: That will be great.
...now I try to be amused
@Leto:
Also intelligence collection.
SiubhanDuinne
@TaMara:
They had me at âFor Planning Purposes Reluctantlyâ â guffawing here!
hueyplong
@Steve: Several minutes in a happy world devoid of Donald Trump.
Leto
@TaMara: LuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuulâŠ
Last night on Chris Hayes, he had Harrisâ first social media outreach person on. She worked on Harrisâ 2020 campaign in 2019. She was 19 at the time. But her mastery of the subject, and how the current campaign is operating, simply left me and Avalune a bit wowed. They definitely understand how to use all forms of social media, as well as not forcing things, so damn well. Letting things grow organically, knowing how to talk on each platform, doing things like that press release⊠itâs a good feeling.
Btw the first half of Hayes program dealt with the shifting landscape of media/journalism, and how both campaigns are trying to reach voters in this digital landscape. Thought it was an informative 25 mins.
rikyrah
@Leto:
sitting here crying after reading that.
Leto
@rikyrah: *passes a tissue
I gotta tell Avalune to stop cutting so many onionsâŠ
Larch
Another great element of their campaign is the zoom calls with different groups, a la the space cadet zoom from this morningâs post and so many others. I love how that flips the âidentity politics=badâ script by making it a form of inclusion to do a special zoom call with any and every group. Itâs like an Oprah show â âyou get a zoom call, and you get a zoom, and you get a zoom, everyone gets a zoom!â
...now I try to be amused
@Leto:
I attended a talk given by a former UK Labour MP. He said that working in politics can be frustrating in many ways. One of them is seldom knowing for sure if you are making a difference. Even if you get your desired outcome, did you make it happen, or did others? It can be hard to tell. But those who stick with politics have faith that they have made a difference, or will in the future.
HumboldtBlue
Questions for the ages.
Jeffro
also, trumpov is once again asking that his sentencing in NY be delayed until after the election.
hard NO there, jerk!
David đKHiveđ Koch
Kamala and Coach could star in a great buddy cop movie
hueyplong
@David đKHiveđ Koch: No doubt titled “Kamala the Cop”
Leto
@…now I try to be amused: Politics, like teaching, is an investment in the future. Youâre doing all this work now for a potential future payoff. You can never be sure if itâll work out, but that doesnât mean that you donât do it. You do the hard work regardless, because you know itâs the right thing to do. So many jobs are like that. Which leads me to something that was brought up this morning:
Trump Campaign Says Military Service Is Not A âReal Jobâ â VoteVets Responds
I donât even see how the hell this line of attack works. This is beyond dumb. Basically itâs falling back to: if you did any public sector job, you never had a real job. Like⊠wut? Please proceed, Mr Ketchup.
normal liberal
Tamara-Could you post the source of your soon-to-arrive campaign swag? Thanks so much.
HumboldtBlue
@Jeffro:
Check out the headlines on memeorandum
JML
I don’t think it’s a coincidence that the people trying to scuzz up Harris & Walz’s records, and claiming to “know” them are all angry people who all come off as someone with an axe to grind or personal resentment at the fore. there’s always something underlying it, it’s always someone who doesn’t actually know them on any kind of personal level, but can claim to have crossed paths. they never have much in the way of details or contemporaneous recollections that are corroborated by anyone. It’s just more manufactured grist from the GOP slime machine.
It’s notable that so far it ain’t stickin’.
BR
The Harris Walz video is up — it was nice. I’m cynical about things sometimes, so I was waiting to cringe as I watched the 9 minute video and each time I was about to cringe my cynicism melted away.
Leto
@David đKHiveđ Koch: Follows in the great Obama and Biden detective series. We need a good transition with Biden and Kamala to get us to Kamala and the Coach buddy cop series.
p.a.
In time of war, what is the ratio of support to combat troops? Â 10 to 1 stuck in my head, but my head isn’t a great source. Â Anyway, good on tRump etc for insulting everyone supporting the point of the spear. Â Stable genius!
JoyceH
@Leto: Ha. There was a great video clip of Kamala that spawned a million memes. She leaves the plane and strides over to the press, takes off her sunglasses and says, âWhatcha got?â My fave was âwhy does she look like a homicide detective approaching the third body found today?â
...now I try to be amused
@p.a.:
I think 10:1 is in the ballpark at least. But Walz was an artilleryman; that’s combat arms, just not the rifle-toting kind.
Dave
@p.a.: It varies from force to force the more force projection you are engaged in usually more support troops are involved. 10-1 is a reasonable ball park though.
It gets a little trickier in lower or medium intensity conflicts like Iraq and Afghanistan were for the most part. What qualifies as support versus “front-line” particular because the concept of front-line is a bit of a misnomer in that sort of conflict.
rikyrah
@Dave:
Frank Luntz misses his grift. He’s the one who came up with their dogwhistle language.
Dave
@rikyrah: That’s certainly true; I suppose that once they got a taste of the freedom of unfettered whatever the hell it is they do that the thought of going back is too painful to contemplate.
SatanicPanic
This campaign is doing great and I really like this way of communicating
trollhattan
@rikyrah: Things like renaming the inheritance tax as the “death tax.”
“Oh, now I’m against that!”
Dave
@trollhattan: Very true but the more intellectual and esoteric oriented of them have tasted the possibility of bringing about their neo-reactionary utopia death-tax versus inheritance tax just isn’t going to do it for them anymore.
TaMara
@normal liberal: Etsy for the shirt, Amazon for the flag and KamalaHarris.com for the patches.
WereBear
@David đKHiveđ Koch: The Joy Squad.
She’s tough. He’s tender.
Going after a threat to the whole world.
Rachel Bakes
2.5 weeks too early, Governor Walz was at Salve Regina in Newport, RI today. Early because my daughter moves in on 8/31! Still, an old friend donated his office for the coachâs green room.
Omnes Omnibus
Ben Jacobs fact checked Harrisâs statement about being the first VP to grow chilis. He said it was false. Â Thomas Jefferson had. Â He completely ignored the fact that she said she believed that she was the first. Â And, anyway, wtf? Â They really are grasping at straws.
Anonymous At Work
I am scared. A middle-aged white guy born in Nebraska and living in Minnesota is everything that my originally-from-Texas self has been taught to fear when it comes to Tex-Mex and chili. I imagine such persons wanting a more plain version of mayo than the plain version.
O. Felix Culpa
@Omnes Omnibus:
Remind me, who exactly was doing the farming on Jefferson’s plantation? And, seriously, that’s what they consider worth fact- checking? C’mon, man. (Homage to Joe.)
RevRick
@Josie: Iâm with you 100%. The simpatico between Kamala and Tim just radiates. She absolutely picked the right guy to aid in the decision making.
They strike me as both being self-aware with their heads screwed on straight. Unlike that carking mass of fragility and rage that is DJT.
sdhays
@Omnes Omnibus: Wow.
Betty
@O. Felix Culpa: Malarkey?
rikyrah
@Omnes Omnibus:
He is getting filleted in the comments with people noting that Jefferson didn’t do shyt.
His SLAVES did.
Kathleen
@Manyakitty: That documentary was terrifying.
Citizen Alan
@Leto: Christian nationalism is a heretical, if not actually satanic, cult that rejects nearly everything Jesus actually said about how he wants his followers to live their lives.
sab
@rikyrah: As Ta-nehisi Coates once said “Thomas Jefferson died broke although his plantation had zero labor costs.” The slaves grew their own food, and were not paid wages.
Ruckus
@…now I try to be amused:
I think the point of politics in this country is to get the citizens engaged, because it is a country that belongs to all of us, the past, the present, the future. The premise of a democracy is that it has leaders because that is always necessary but WE are the owners of this country and we should leave it actually better than when we got here. My 75 yrs has shown me that the reason this country works most of the time is that we do the governing for the betterment of the population. And that population is a diverse group. But we can’t forget that this is our country, ALL of OURS. Not mine, not yours, not shitforbrains, not just the rich, it belongs to ALL of US. Those we ask to do the day to day work, those that build and repair it, those who protect it, those who aren’t old enough to do more than learn, those who have been here for decades, those who can’t catch a break, those who need a break, ALL of US. It isn’t a monarchy, or a dictatorship, it is a democracy – for ALL of US. I paid taxes for over 60 yrs working, serving, being a citizen, voting, serving in the USN. And I hope to be here for at least another 20-25 yrs. I’ve seen the world from the northern tip of Norway to the southern tip of New Zealand. From Hawaii to the Berlin Wall. 48 states I’ve seen and traveled to and lived in 3 diverse ones. I’ve visited Cuba 3 times. Visited Europe 3 times. Crossed the Atlantic 6 times. I’ve seen many beautiful countries and still feel this one is the best. But like all human endeavors it has it’s faults, it’s high points and it’s low ones.
Ruckus
@Leto:
This is similar to many protests decades ago from the wealthy about our politics and government. That the only people that should be respected are the wealthy, and to me that was because they seem to think money is the only concept of power. Or really anything.
That people that serve in the military are ignorant losers, that people who get dirty hands working are ignorant losers, that people that drink beer are losers, that people that drive a reasonable, not overly expensive car are losers, and on and on, under the concept that money is the one thing of power that is what makes human beings. Not physical or mental work, not being a sailor or soldier, not a cab driver, a nurse or garbage truck driver, a school teacher, and on and on, but being wealthy. That people that stutter, or punch a time clock, or get dirty doing their jobs.
This country is not about money, it is about freedom, it is about actually earning for doing something for others, a nurse, school teacher, truck driver, grocery store cashier, machinist, farmer, a part of something bigger, a part of a country, a population, not a pompous, arrogant, rich person, who demands anything they want because they deserve everything because they have money.
Money does absolutely not make people better, although it can make them far worse. Yes we need money to live in a modern country. But it’s what we do to get the money, what we do to help the country, what we do to help each other that is important, that we actually work for that money. Sure some make more than others, but it’s not having money, it is EARNING that money, doing something that helps the country, helps others, makes the whole better, not JUST their own bank accounts.
It is being part of the whole, not separate from it, not thinking you are above the rest of us.
I’m listening to a PBS program about Joe Biden.
Joe Biden is a US citizen and president. Has served this country for most of his life. Joe Biden is a part of the whole, a big part because of who he is and who he has been for decades. He didn’t do this for the money, he didn’t do this for the power, he’s done this for decades because of the country, to help make it better. Joe Biden is being part of the whole, not separate from it, not thinking he is above the rest of us. This is who he is, and who he has been for decades.
emmyelle
Honestly as a sorority women myself Iâd love to see a little leaning into that-maybe a pink hat with green lettering saying something like âA sorority womanâs place is in the White Houseâ or something