How will the FBI can explain this photograph of Walz beaming next to a CCP operative https://t.co/0htUIqdvVA pic.twitter.com/jTGXPTDJxe
— tyson brody (@tysonbrody) August 16, 2024
.@Tim_Walz has had a decades-long history with China — promoting exchanges between Chinese and American citizens, but criticizing its government and the Chinese Communist Party for human rights abuses and bad governance. By @amyyqin @KeithBradsher: https://t.co/2B621qz1Nz
— Edward Wong (@ewong) August 11, 2024
In case y’all didn’t have a high enough opinion of Coach Walz already… “Tim Walz’s Long Relationship With China Defies Easy Stereotypes”: [gift link]
In the summer of 1989, Tim Walz faced a difficult choice.
A newly minted college graduate from small-town Nebraska, he had just turned down a stable, 9-to-5 job offer and moved across the world to teach at a local high school in China. He had made it as far as Hong Kong, just across the Chinese border, when People’s Liberation Army tanks rolled into Tiananmen Square to crush pro-democracy protests.
Rumors were flying about a possible civil war in China. Many foreigners, including most American teachers, had fled the country. Should he go back home or continue his journey into China?
He decided to go in.
“It was my belief at that time that the diplomacy was going to happen on many levels, certainly people to people,” Mr. Walz recalled in 2014 during a congressional hearing marking the 25th anniversary of the Tiananmen Square crackdown. “The opportunity to be in a Chinese high school at that critical time seemed to me to be really important.”
The one year that Mr. Walz spent teaching English in southern China was the start of what would become a decades-long relationship with the country. As high school teachers in Nebraska and Minnesota, Mr. Walz and his wife, Gwen, regularly led trips to China in the 1990s and early 2000s to introduce students to China’s history and culture. Mr. Walz has said that he has traveled to China some 30 times, including for his honeymoon.
That deep history of engagement with China reflects a lesser-known international dimension of the Democratic vice-presidential candidate. If elected vice president, Mr. Walz would bring to the White House unusually extensive personal experience in China — a history that supporters say could be an asset at a time of volatile relations between Washington and Beijing…
Republicans, by contrast, have already begun to seize on the governor’s personal experience in China to accuse him of being soft on a country that is now seen as America’s greatest military and economic rival.
Richard Grenell, who served as ambassador to Germany and acting director of national intelligence in the Trump administration, said on X that “Communist China” was “very happy” with Ms. Harris’s choice of Mr. Walz as her running mate. Senator Tom Cotton of Arkansas said that Mr. Walz owed “the American people an explanation about his unusual, 35-year relationship with Communist China.”…
Mr. Walz was determined to share with his students the marvel of discovering the wider world beyond small-town America, according to interviews with four former students and a professor who went on the yearly trips that the Walzes had organized in the 1990s.
The students, most of whom had never traveled abroad, barely spent any time in the classroom. In addition to sightseeing, they met with tai chi masters, practiced their chopstick skills at family-style meals and tried Chinese calligraphy…
As a congressman, Mr. Walz did not shy away from talking about his experience in China.
But he was also critical of the Chinese government from the start. And over his 12-year tenure in the House, Mr. Walz’s criticisms of China’s human rights record became even sharper, especially as the Chinese government took a more authoritarian turn under Xi Jinping.
Mr. Walz served on the Congressional-Executive Commission on China, a bipartisan group of lawmakers focused on monitoring and reporting on human rights and the rule of law in China. Transcripts show that other commission members often praised Mr. Walz for his expertise…
1. They're scared. Really scared.
2. With Comer in charge, this can only be good for Walz :)
3. This is "weaponizing the government" and it's what authoritarians do.House GOP sets its sights on Walz https://t.co/kKj6uP7War via @politico
— Tom Nichols (@RadioFreeTom) August 16, 2024
Expertise?!? Experience?!? Is that really what you want in a legislator? Per Politico, “House GOP sets its sights on Walz”:
House Republicans are setting their sights on Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz, Democrats’ vice presidential candidate — the latest indication that they are using their slim majority to go after former President Donald Trump’s political opponents.
Oversight Chair James Comer (R-Ky.) on Friday announced that he is opening an investigation into Walz’s work related to China, including coordinating student trips, and sent a letter to FBI Director Christopher Wray requesting a swath of documents and any correspondence with Walz related to China.
“Americans should be deeply concerned that Governor Walz, Kamala Harris’s vice-presidential running mate, has a longstanding and cozy relationship with China. …The American people deserve to fully understand how deep Governor Walz’s relationship with China goes,” Comer said in a statement…
Comer has launched sweeping investigations into Chinese entities as part of his work as chair of the House Oversight Committee, which has a broad jurisdictional lane. But he’s also used the panel to delve into the party’s political opponents. While he told POLITICO that he wouldn’t be calling Harris in, he recently requested documents related to her work on the U.S.-Mexico border.
His most high-profile investigation — co-leading an impeachment inquiry into President Joe Biden that largely focused on the business deals of his family members — has quietly wrapped after months. Republicans, however, don’t have the votes to impeach Biden, after investigators failed to convince dozens of their colleagues that Biden had committed a crime or an impeachable offense.
Walz should be commended for spending time in China, not criticized. We need way, way more people going to China to study, to research, to do business, and just to slack around. You want to understand a place, especially one that is a serious rival, you have to see it firsthand. https://t.co/NvXwjs060a
— Ian Johnson (@iandenisjohnson) August 13, 2024
Frankensteinbeck
Walz only has to tell one public story about food he ate in China and this will explode in the GOP’s faces.
Baud
What a lame headline. The
piratedan
they got nothing… he went there to teach, not close out business deals or become a sleeper agent. According to the GOP the only acceptable foreign influence is taking bribes…. surprised that they didn’t approach Melendez.
frosty
I am so, so tired of all these bozos. “Weaponizing the government” . Once again every accusation is a confession.
Go away. Just go crawl back under your rocks.
Captain C
@piratedan: Didn’t Ivanka get awarded a bunch of suspiciously timed trademarks in China when her daddy was President? I seem to remember that happening, speaking of doing business with/in China.
Marleedog
Who tf is Tyson Brody and can anyone really be that stupid? Well there is always dopey James Comer, I suppose. Asshole Greg Abbot just got back from China, also too, just saying.
Yeeesh these people…
Gin & Tonic
@Baud: But we *want* easy stereotypes.
KatKapCC
Yeah, how dare Tim go to a horrible enemy land like China!!!! He should have been working in friendly beautiful moral places…
…like Russia.
lowtechcyclist
Man, this is so laughably stupid. Time to point and laugh at the Rethugs’ desperation.
brantl
The guy with Walz looks like the Dalai Lama?
Tony Jay
@Captain C:
That was tribute to her two wonderful attributes – by which I mean stellar business acumen and the kind of entrepreneurial va-va-voom those inscrutable types traditionally admire. If her father’s position played any role in their decision it was purely a background one, with his awesome presence in global affairs weighing on their thoughts in the same way a gas giant’s enormous gravity affects the perambulations of passing comets.
Plus, y’know, the bribery.
Baud
@lowtechcyclist:
As long as we keep pointing and laughing when the NYT assigns 25 reporters to dig into Walz’s Chinese takeout habits.
Marleedog
@brantl: yes
Anne Laurie
Please readjust your Snark Meter. In these chaotic days, it can be… complicated… telling the difference between sarcasm and stupidity!
SpaceUnit
No, I heard a report that Walz pulled up to a Chinese restaurant, entered, and then came out a minute later carrying a suspicious brown paper bag that was stapled together at the top. Witnesses say he placed the bag on the passenger seat and then sped off into the night.
I want to think there’s an innocent explanation, but I think an investigation is warranted.
Lyrebird
In my line of work, I sometimes have to remind people (but stay with me ok?) not to diagnose strangers, etc., etc….
I am so tired of their accusations and actions making your summary SO TRUE over and over and over.
Anne Laurie
Bingo. Thus, the snark.
KatKapCC
@Marleedog: I’m pretty sure that tweet was sarcasm.
@brantl: It is the Dalai Lama.
Trivia Man
What a coincidence, I was also in China* in 1989 and saw up close the tension. I like him even more now.
*There is only One China according to official policy, he was in Hong Kong China (still British then btw), I was in Taiwan China.
wjca
It’s not so much that they want them. It’s that they’re incapable of wrapping their tiny minds around anything else.
Another Scott
@Baud: +1
volatile – liable to change rapidly and unpredictably, especially for the worse.
Poor word choice there, also too.
Volatile has the connotation of dangerous, extremely flammable, and maybe even explosive.
We’ve got lots of disagreements with the CCP in China, but IIRC, the last time the relations were something that I think could be called “volatile” was in W’s time in the Hainan Island incident.
Even during the worst to the COVID-19 days, we weren’t having US and Chinese planes bang into each other.
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Cheers,
Scott.
brendancalling
it just gets more and more pathetic. You can smell the flop sweat.
i sure hope we win in November.
What Have The Romans Ever Done for Us?
@Captain C: China paid Trump himself several tens of millions of dollars while he was President for… something. We have no idea what.
But yes Ivanka also got a bunch of trademarks right after Trump was elected.
Falling Diphthong
Walz is in Omaha trash talking JD Vance’s presumed lack of knowledge about the pastries of the plain states.
Baud
@Falling Diphthong:
Why is he in Nebraska?
NotMax
@Baud
Yeah. What in the name of FSM might be a hard stereotype?
Geminid
Comer can bring it on so far as I am concerned. Every time Comer holds a hearing Jame Raskin and the other Democrats run rings around him and his henchmen. It’s like taking candy from a baby.
Marleedog
@Anne Laurie:
There ought to be a law…
What Have The Romans Ever Done for Us?
@Baud: Going after that one EV? Nebraska splits them.
Baud
@What Have The Romans Ever Done for Us?:
Thanks. Forgot about that.
scav
@SpaceUnit: I mean, the man has a known history of exposing children, innocent children! to information. Geographic information. In this day and age. And ahem, Social Studies? Isn’t that just a cute word for socialism!!!
Geminid
@Baud: The goal is to lock down an Electoral vote, and also help Don Bacon’s Democratic challenger.
Fake Irishman
@Baud:
Omaha. That might be a really important electoral vote.
SatanicPanic
Dalai Lama creeps me out but I don’t think normies feel that way.
SpaceUnit
@scav:
It’s well known that Chinese Intelligence uses fortune cookies to send coded messages to US double agents.
Another Scott
@What Have The Romans Ever Done for Us?: +1
@Baud:
APNews.com:
Good, good.
Cheers,
Scott.
matt
Why is there a convention in the press to pretend not to notice that investigations by Congressional Republicans are blatantly political?
Baud
@matt:
They hope the Republicans succeed.
matt
Does anyone remember when Chinese and other foreign intelligence agents were busted because they had set up shop in Mar-a-Lago for years?
Steve LaBonne
How has this guy not been noticed nationally before now? There’s so much depth to him under the placid Midwestern exterior. He will be an enormous asset to the Harris Administration and undoubtedly she sees that too.
comrade scotts agenda of rage
@Geminid:
Who is Tony Vargas:
https://nebraskaexaminer.com/2024/05/21/bruising-bacon-frei-gop-primary-bleeds-into-bacon-vargas-rematch-this-fall/
I love the fact that according to that piece, “Democratic-aligned groups” have been running negative ads against Bacon for over a year now in order to raise his negatives.
I don’t think his batshit, wingnut challenger ever endorsed him but not totally sure on that point.
Baud
@Steve LaBonne:
No one pays attention to the Dem bench.
comrade scotts agenda of rage
@Steve LaBonne:
Harris hit a home run with the pick.
As mentioned before, being somewhat unknown nationally means the GQP machine has little time to pick on him like an itchy scab.
SatanicPanic
@Steve LaBonne: Right? This man is great. We need to know more of what’s up with Democratic governors. Usually we only hear about governors from CA and CO or WA (for good reasons) and whatever idiot is in charge in NY. Whitmer is also constantly in the news, cause she’s great. But the other ones we barely hear about.
Steve LaBonne
@comrade scotts agenda of rage: The Walz pick speaks very, very highly of her judgment. And as a seriously underrated politician herself, she knows one when she sees one.
Geminid
@comrade scotts agenda of rage: Trump endorsed Bacon’s Republican opponent in 2022, because Bacon voted for the Infrastructure bill.
Bscon had a long Air Force career and had retired as a general before he ran for Congress. He’s barely held on to his seat over the last two cycles.
Steve LaBonne
@matt: Pepperidge Farm remembers!
KatKapCC
@Steve LaBonne: He’s terrific. I love what great Grandpa energy he brings. I wonder if, in addition to Harris just looking young for her age, that’s why people think he’s so much older. On her birthday, they should post a photo together saying something like “Just two 60-year-olds hanging out” or whatever. I think a lot of people still don’t realize they’re basically the same age.
Baud
@Another Scott:
Jeez, more communism???!!!
dmsilev
At least some in the press seem to be getting bored with Trump’s routine, which is just deadly for him. Here’s the Post’s recap of his rally today:
Baud
@dmsilev:
I have to admit, that is a little weird.
David 🐝KHive🐝 Koch
@dmsilev: “I can handle things I don’t ramble — not like everyone says — not ramble, I’m smart and I want respect!”
chemiclord
@piratedan: But skoolz r how dem communists endocument… endoctorate… uh… brainwash ya!
dmsilev
@Baud: Maybe Trump can do a mime routine next. At least then we wouldn’t have to listen to him.
hells littlest angel
OMG, it’s a thing, and people are paying attention to it!
Jay
@Baud:
funny thing is, it wasn’t Macron’s accent, it was Pepe le Pew’s,
just like his Apartheid Clyde interview he mimicked all the way through it, Sylvester the Cat.
Soon to come up, Speedy Gonzalez.
HumboldtBlue
Some excellent news.
Marc Elias has joined the Harris election team.
Not linking to the NYT, here’s a quote.
Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)
@dmsilev:
2 hours!? Jesus Christ, Harris and Walz know to keep their speeches down to 30 minutes or so. You shouldn’t need to 2 hours to make a stump speech. 30-45 minutes is more than enough. At least, as long as you’re not in cognitive decline like Trump evidently is
rk
Donald Trump said he’s better looking than Kamala Harris.
sdhays
@Another Scott: China’s increasingly aggressive posture towards Taiwan makes me worried that might no longer be true. Xi is dangerous in a way some of predecessors were not.
Suzanne
@rk: Donald Trump looks like Pizza the Hutt in human form.
Steve LaBonne
@sdhays: Xi is the Chinese Trump. By many accounts he is not well-read and knows dangerously little of the world beyond China.
KatKapCC
@Baud: I’m sure he nailed it. Parisians were watching thinking “Sacrebleu! Il est français?”
Another Scott
@Jay: … and the Frito Bandito.
:-/
Cheers,
Scott.
JaySinWA
@dmsilev: Change Ramble to Meander to keep Trump from getting upset with your coverage? Bold plan.
Jackie
@Baud: Walz is from Nebraska, and he’s campaigning in Omaha for the one EC vote Dems can get. Omaha is the blue oasis in Nebraska.
EarthWindFire
@rk: Did anyone break it to him that Kamala Harris doesn’t need bronzer?
Gloria DryGarden
@rk: see prev thread for many amusing comments on this.
David 🐝KHive🐝 Koch
@Suzanne:
Fun fact: underneath all that cheese, sauce and pepperoni, Pizza the Hut was portrayed by Mel Brooks’ close friend Dom DeLuise.
BR
A short TikTok of Harris speaking to kids after a rally from a few years ago, well worth watching/sharing:
https://www.tiktok.com/@nowthisimpact/video/7403852715144613163
BR
@Suzanne:
Lol. Pizza the Hutt.
Steve LaBonne
@rk: We need to ask Paul Campos whether Trump has mouth Parkinson’s.
rk
@Suzanne:
Nothing this man says should surprise me, but my God! He literally said that he’s much better looking than harris (because Peggy Noonan apparently said that Kamala has an advantage in that she’s a beautiful woman).
Tony G
The right wing’s current obsession with China is so idiotic on so many levels. Yes, the Chinese government has a terrible human rights record. That is the case with many countries with which the United States does business. But Mao has been dead for almost a half-century now and China has long been a capitalist country with a repressive. government. The U.S. now imports more than a half-trillion dollars worth of products from China every year. Is the right wing calling for a U.S. boycott of China? If so, then they’re calling for massive shortages and price increases. If not, then what the hell are they calling for?
Gloria DryGarden
@Jackie: does Nebraska do apportionment, not sure what it’s called, where some electoral votes can go for each candidate? I think Colorado is on the all one way plan, for electoral delegates; whoever wins majority gets all the EC votes. Not so in NE?
wasn’t there a pact between a few states, to start splitting the electoral votes by proportion, once enough of the states had agreed to it? I’m not up to speed on it. How will that work out, once it does go through?
BR
@Gloria DryGarden:
Nebraska does EVs by congressional district, so Dems can again win the Omaha EV.
Scout211
click over to see the pic of the original sign she is referring to.
I guess Twitter peeps are adding to the list.
Suzanne
@David 🐝KHive🐝 Koch: Dom DeLuise was also better looking than Trump, with or without being covered in pizza sauce.
HumboldtBlue
This motherfucker is completely out of his mind. How the fuck the media ignores this is fucking criminal.
Poe Larity
Donald can always move to Cuba, where they were used to multi-hour rantings.
KatKapCC
@Tony G: I’d ask them to check the labels on every single item in their home and tally up how many were made in China.
Poe Larity
Will JD do his part?
https://cosmosmagazine.com/health/medicine/uterus-transplant-trial-dallas/
HumboldtBlue
If this had been Biden, it would have driven the news for the next week.
3Sice
He tots hotter than Kamala.
Wait… why the fuck did he say that?
Weird.
3Sice
@HumboldtBlue:
🤪
Baud
@HumboldtBlue:
That part isn’t crazy if Knight endorsed him before he died.
Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)
@HumboldtBlue:
He’s so pissed Biden dropped out because he believed he was on track to beat him and now that’s in doubt. “I spent $100 million dollars fighting Biden!”
Go jump off a bridge, prick
Jackie
@hells littlest angel: Only MAGA republicans. “Normal republicans” know Comer and company are full of BS.
Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)
@Baud:
Was curious, so I looked him up on Wiki. Interestingly, doesn’t say if he supported or endorsed Trump for 2020 or 2024:
Jackie
@HumboldtBlue: How many hats can Elias wear successfully?! Seems he’s needed everywhere to protect Democratic voting rights!
SatanicPanic
@HumboldtBlue: Trump has the imagination of a stupid person because he’s a stupid person
Raoul Paste
@HumboldtBlue: Yep, you have to wonder what it’s going to take before somebody throws a net over him.
The only good part is that he’s becoming noticeably worse. We will have to wait for the tipping point
Jackie
@Gloria DryGarden: Nebraska and Maine split their EC votes. There’s been discussion about this practice changing in the future.
geg6
@Steve LaBonne:
I saw what you did. 🤣🤣🤣
Chet Murthy
@BR: I’ve seen lots of vids of her with kids, esp. young girls: they’re always ecstatic to meet her, and she does not disappoint.
3Sice
Nothing but the best:
BR
@BR:
I was curious and looked at the comments on this TikTok video. Vast majority were positive as they should be — it’s a great video. The few that were negative were grossly sexist. That’s a sign of what we’re up against.
Joe Falco
What part of “Only Nixon can go to China” do you shitlibs not understand? – Republicans
BR
@Chet Murthy:
I remember someone sharing this other similar video of Harris from the other day:
https://nitter.poast.org/NashIsHere4It/status/1822106211296133528?t=X0ui-RqMfL8T0fFXPEDZSA&s=03
Jackie
@HumboldtBlue: Even his MAGA faithful knows that’s BS. TCFG is fooling no one but himself, but who’s gonna tell him he’s batshit crazy to his face?
We can’t count on the media to call him out – they just shrug and laugh it off as TCFG just being TCFG.
Leto
@3Sice: Boeing almost got it right…
JanieM
@Gloria DryGarden:
Haven’t heard of that, but there’s the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact:
Right now Maine and Nebraska apportion EC votes as follows: 2 (i.e. the # of senators) to the candidate who wins the overall state vote, and the rest according to who wins each Congressional district.
Jeffro
@SpaceUnit: well done! =)
Jeffro
@dmsilev: the mainstream snooze media coverage does seem to be getting a little bored with the whole routine
GOOD
now if they could just be bothered to liven things up by, oh, asking trump a real question once in a while, that would be totes awesome
M31
lol Trump spent 100 million to fight Biden (he didn’t)
we spend $0 to completely bury Vance, all it took was one shitposting twitter rando, who did it for free out of the goodness of his heart
hahahahaha
Another Scott
@Baud: 2016.
It’s always 2016 for Donold.
Cheers,
Scott.
Jeffro
@M31: trump is just mad that the $100M got spent on campaigning, PERIOD.
”IT SHOULD HAVE GONE STRAIGHT TO MY POCKET! I NEED THAT MONEY!!”
too bad, so sad
scav
Can MAGA branded strait jackets and butterfly nets be in the pipeline already? The “I’m with drooling candidates 2024” tee-shirts to pair with the gold sneakers, diapers and ear-bandages? Because those rats are clinging like barnacles to the leaky vessel.
Gvg
@Tony G: Simple minds HAVE to have a great rival. They don’t want it to be Russia, because too many of them are being bribed, some really admire Russia or think their voters do and another set have noticed how pathetic Russia has become. Remember Romney was kind of laughed at for saying Russia was our great enemy.
So China by default has to be the enemy. For awhile it was Muslim terrorists, but they aren’t a nation and it’s too complicated to fight them.
catclub
@HumboldtBlue: The Daily Show did a compilation of all the insults he has thrown at Kamala and they are identical to the insults of Biden. 1. great depression
2. stupid, 3.Failed administration 4. Cannot speak.
5. worst ever.
Why hasn’t any media outlet done that?
Citizen Alan
@3Sice: If that had happened to Kamala Harris prior to Biden dropping out, every media outlet would have been insinuating that someone was trying to assassinate her so that she could be replaced on the ticket. Meanwhile, Trump visibly hates Vance and is, as many legal scholars have noted, “a Soviet shitpile mobster.” So are we allowed to speculate on who in the GOP or the KGB was trying to whack Couch Fucker? Would it be irresponsible not to?
Citizen Alan
@Gvg:
In Romney’s defense, he probably knew better than Obama just how many pro-Russian traitors there were in the GOP by that point.
Villago Delenda Est
The stupid. It burns!
Villago Delenda Est
@catclub: They’re paid handsomely not to.
cmorenc
…but Trump’s extensive experience with Russia and the Russian Oligarchy is no problem at all.
Villago Delenda Est
Yes. Known Chinese Communist Party agent and provocateur.
This is why the stupid burns so hot.
sab
My sister has spent her whole long professional life trying to build a bridge between US and China. She loves both cultures. Politically disagrees with both but she isn’t political. Just an art historian.
Finally we have a guy who knows about China. Social studies teacher. Been there done that. And from what I have seen, his students remember and love him
RaflW
Ric Grenell is such an absolute POS. Aggressively ignorant. Rude. A perfect fit for the Trump crowd, but so embarrassing for normal Americans.
Dan B
@SpaceUnit: LOL!! SNL material fir sure. And with an actor who looks so ordinary* like Walz.
*In addition to looking ordinary he is very capable of turning on the fire. I heard an excerpt of his talk in Nebraska and the MAGATS should be praying for a fire breathing dragon. He knows how to be breathing fire against the weird creeps and then remind them, in no uncertain terms of what they could be and ought to be. Makes me want to cry tears of joy every time!
Dan B
@scav: Yet another addition to the SNL sketch. Complete with “SOCIAL Studies!!!” Lightning flashes, terrified eyes,etc.
Dan B
@Steve LaBonne: Natinally he was the president of the Democratic Governors Association. This man is solid and his wife seems to be also
Plus Kamala and her team probably noticed how many incredible stories can be spun about his life, genuine stories. I hope there are a batch of his former students and National Guardsmen speaking about him at the DNC.
Tony G
@Gvg: That’s right. Plus: The Chinese are not “white”. That makes them much easier to hate than the “white” “Christian” Russians.