Man oh man oh man oh man!! The kickoff Navy Pier fireworks show for the Democratic National Convention was amazing! One of the craziest finales I’ve ever seen! #dnc #chicago #summer #fireworks #HarrisWalz pic.twitter.com/Hql3Clf8cT
— Human? (@rmuench22) August 19, 2024
Presenting your official celebrity hosts for the @DemConvention!#HarrisWalz2024 pic.twitter.com/gJs54SwoYf
— KAMALA NATION (@KamalaNation) August 19, 2024
Democratic National Convention reveals theme for each night of Chicago event https://t.co/WiXmsP9b86
— Joey Garrison (@joeygarrison) August 18, 2024
… The title of the four-day convention is “For the People, For Our Future,” with Democrats hoping to use the festivities to introduce Harris and running-mate Gov. Tim Walz to the nation after Harris quickly secured the nomination following President Joe Biden’s exit from the race last month.
“The story here is simple and it’s one that will resonate with Americans across the country: Kamala Harris and Tim Walz are fighting for the American people and America’s future. Donald Trump is only fighting for himself,” said Minyon Moore, the convention’s chair…
Monday, Aug. 19
The convention kicks off Monday with the theme “For the People.” Biden will be the keynote speaker on a night that will pay tribute to the outgoing president, who dropped out of the race amid pressure from fellow Democrats worried about his chances to beat Republican nominee Donald Trump.First Lady Jill Biden will address the convention as well Monday night. Harris, who is taking part in a campaign bus tour through western Pennsylvania on Sunday, is expected to arrive at the United Center on Monday to watch the Bidens’ addresses…
Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, who lost to Trump in the 2016 election, will also address the convention Monday. Chicago Mayor Brandon Johnson, host of the convention, will speak Monday night as well.
Tuesday, Aug. 20
Tuesday’s theme is “A Bold Vision for America’s Future,” with former President Barack Obama set to address the convention…Illinois Gov. J.B. Pritzker will also speak Tuesday night…
Wednesday, Aug. 21
Wednesday’s convention theme is “A Fight for our Freedoms,” with Walz and former President Bill Clinton both giving addresses.Among those freedoms: reproductive rights…
Look for Democrats to remind Americans repeatedly that Trump’s three Supreme Court justice appointments were instrumental in turning the court to a 6-3 conservative majority that overturned a constitutional right to an abortion.
Thursday, Aug. 22
The convention will conclude Thursday night with the theme “For our Future.” Harris, who was already nominated by the party through a virtual roll-call, will formally accept the nomination and deliver her address.Democrats will argue that a second Trump presidency would be “even more dangerous than the first one” and cast the election as a “fight for the future.”
The DNC confirmed other convention speakers include Second Gentleman Doug Emhoff and Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer and House Democratic Leader Hakeem Jeffries, both of New York. The party did not say on which night each will speak.
How to watch
The DNC will air the convention live on its website, from the United Center in Chicago between 6:15 p.m. and 11 p.m. Eastern (5:15 p.m. to 10 p.m Central) on Monday, and 7 p.m to 11 p.m. Eastern (6 p.m. to 10 p.m. Central) the other days.C-SPAN, PBS and other news stations will livestream the convention and most will broadcast the major speeches live.
Still can’t believe I’ll be speaking at this years DNC— but I have to say this wouldn’t be possible without these women. These TX trailblazers who paved the way for young women like me.
Barbara Jordan
Ann Richards
Sheila Jackson Lee pic.twitter.com/4POQNqMQQD— Olivia Julianna ????????? (@0liviajulianna) August 19, 2024
I’m 22 years old and I’m voting for Kamala Harris in November. Super excited to be in Chicago for the Democratic National Convention! pic.twitter.com/aoqBVCfg9b
— Chris Mowrey (@chrisdmowrey) August 19, 2024
Her grandfather, Cesar Chavez, taught her about activism. Now she's running Harris' campaign https://t.co/gpXSH7rRtF
— Natalie Louise Shorter (Lucas)?? (@NatalieLShorter) August 18, 2024
Live from Chicago with @mintimm & @LaphonzaB!
We’re putting reproductive freedom front and center at the DNC! ???? pic.twitter.com/exB7tGzxVE
— Reproductive Freedom for All (@reproforall) August 18, 2024
We have arrived for all 4 days of the @DemConvention.
The excitement is palpable as #HarrisWalz is more than merely a campaign, it is a genuine movement to save our Democracy! I spoke briefly to the delegates & guess what? They are FIRED UP & ready to go, Go, GO!!!!#LetsDoThis pic.twitter.com/F8NsqaNm2T— Mark Hamill (@MarkHamill) August 19, 2024
On Monday, for the first time in its history, the Democratic National Convention will hold a panel on Palestinian human rights. We thank the DNC for recognizing this pivotal issue and remain dedicated to pushing VP Harris to stop providing weapons for Israel's assault on Gaza. pic.twitter.com/4rgvlPMG9w
— Uncommitted National Movement 🌺 (@uncommittedmvmt) August 18, 2024
Whoever is projecting "Project 2025 HQ" on the Trump building in Chicago right now deserves all the beers ??????????pic.twitter.com/cdt8O4WJQJ
— Wu Tang is for the Children (@WUTangKids) August 19, 2024
We *could* have done it without you, but now you’re the olive in our martini…
On The Road – Albatrossity – Herons and Egrets of the World – 1
Baud
I’m sure this week will be busy for you, AL. I appreciate your time and effort.
rikyrah
Good Morning, Everyone 😊 😊 😊
hrprogressive
The fact that this DNC is about to be the exact opposite of what all the techbro weasels wanted is one of the most pleasantly shocking developments in the last 20 years, IMO.
Again, I’ll keep saying it;
I’ve never been happier to be wrong about Joe Biden needing to stick it out / step aside.
Can’t wait to welcome our first Madame President.
rikyrah
Thank you, AL🤗
Baud
@rikyrah:
Good morning.
Burnspbesq
The entertainment is shaping up to be as good as the political stuff. No official word yet on a much-speculated-about Beyonce appearance, but last night during a CNN interview from the United Center you could hear Jason Isbell in the background doing a sound check.
comrade scotts agenda of rage
@hrprogressive:
Glibertarian, techbro weasels will be the death of all of us.
OzarkHillbilly
@Baud: All the news worth sharing, none of the BS, which is how I am going to learn of it.
Except for the musk melon, I want to watch his melt down.
Baud
I’m sure Danziger had good intentions, but the toast to Trump does not land well with me.
Loquacious Scribble
Great, now I am craving toast.
Ben Cisco
Good morning!
Worked a voter registration/reclamation event yesterday that culminated in a concert featuring Raheem DeVaughn – over 2000 in attendance!
Loving the energy from this campaign!
Baud
https://democrats.org/where-we-stand/party-platform/
Jeffro
@Burnspbesq: that’s just awesome re: Isbell!
He did that Georgia Blue album of covers after GA came through in 2020. Maybe he’ll do some Chicago blues (or Minnesota & California artist?) covers after we win big this year. =)
Ken
Not all of us. Their elaborate plans for their underground citadels, ocean-floor habitats, orbiting colonies, and/or Mars bases require a certain number of minions. So get busy sucking up on Twitter, so you’ll be one of the of the lucky few!
Mousebumples
@Ben Cisco: Great news! Thanks for your efforts!
Good morning, everyone. I’m proud to be a Democrat.
Betty
@Burnspbesq: Republicans are so jealous that all the good musicians are on the Democratic side. Sad.
Jeffro
As a side note; since he knows he’s losing and can’t cope with an opponent not named ‘Biden’, trumpov is already throwing up chaff about “it was a coup” and “the election is rigged” to his supporters (per WaPo headline today).
I hope President Biden takes a second to address it directly tonight.
”No, Donald, it wasn’t a coup – that was what you attempted back on January 6th. I stepped aside because I love my country and party more than I love myself.”
Ken
@Baud: “To Mr. Scrooge, the founder of the feast!”
Belafon
@Ken: Don’t forget the nuclear war to start anew.
Bupalos
Love the theme. I’m hoping for minimal Clinton action and I’d go fairly easy on Obama too. I’d like to see Biden Harris framed as a successful break from that ambiguous political past, and I want to see a heavy emphasis on the broader D team now. For every minute of an Obama or a Clinton I want 3 minutes of a Whitmer or Buttigiege.
suzanne
I’m hoping that the Beyoncé performance is scheduled but just secret. Maybe a T. Swift performance, too?
Baud
@Bupalos:
Not sure if Pete can speak as a cabinet secretary. I don’t know all the rules about that.
lowtechcyclist
@hrprogressive:
I’ve never been happier to have been wrong about Joe Biden in the first place. I never dreamed he’d be as amazingly good a President as he’s turned out to be. Best President of my lifetime.
And I join you in being happy to be wrong about his needing to step aside rather than continue running for re-election. It’s been a total sea change in the momentum of this campaign. And the Rethugs don’t know what to do about it even now, as evidenced by Pumpkin Spice Pol Pot’s almost demanding that Biden swoop in and reclaim the nomination. Sucks to be you, TFG!
Geminid
@Bupalos: I hope Arizona Rep. Ruben Gallego gets some speaking time.
Baud
@lowtechcyclist:
100%.
BlueGuitarist
Fired up! Ready to go!
Baud
From the lineup, I think Hillary will introduce Biden tonight and Bill will introduce Walz on Wednesday.
AM in NC
@Jeffro: Oh how awesome would that be? Hella awesome. ALL the awesome.
Burnspbesq
@suzanne:
Swift is performing in London tonight and tomorrow. A convention appearance in person seems unlikely, but some sort of video presentation might be possible.
Baud
@Burnspbesq:
She rushed back from Japan to attend the Superbowl!!!!
Bupalos
@lowtechcyclist: I was both wrong to underestimate Biden’s all-star parliamentary skills in 20/20, and wrong about the degree to which Biden stepping aside in 2024 would reverse our electoral disadvantage. I thought switching to Harris would mostly just stop the bleeding. It has actually brought back hope in a much deeper way that I think extends beyond Democrats to the electorate as a whole. Sea-change is exactly the right term.
O. Felix Culpa
The line-up looks fantastic. I’m glad that our Democratic leadership forebears are getting a platform. They all served honorably, even if we might not agree with every policy they enacted or didn’t enact. They operated in a historical context that framed what was possible in their respective eras, plus they’re human and therefore with the usual set of fallibilities. Unlike the Republicans, who excel in having more than the usual set of fallibilities.
Shorter: I’m proud that we don’t need or choose to memory-hole our previous Democratic presidents and candidates, unlike what the R’s did with W.
Omnes Omnibus
@Bupalos: Bill Clinton and Barack Obama are a part of the process of moving away from Reaganism. Biden built on what they did and Harris will build on top of Biden’s work. HRC is still an inspirational figure to many. Concentrating on the future is a good idea and it is the theme of the Convention, but pretending that this is some Year Zero and we are tossing out the past is a mistake.
sdhays
@Baud: Same.
O. Felix Culpa
Trump is weirdly obsessed with Swift. He’s been posting AI-generated images of alleged Swifties for Himself, plus an Uncle Sam-type poster with her image saying she wants YOU to vote for him. I would imagine she’ll have her lawyers swoop in with a cease-and-desist right quick.
ETA: BJ lawyers, can a public person like Swift stop the use of her image in cases like this?
Omnes Omnibus
@suzanne: Do we want to upstage the politicians with performers?
OzarkHillbilly
@Baud: Is her boyfriend gonna speak at the DNC?
Another Scott
@Omnes Omnibus: +1
Yet another thing that is not normal about TCFFG is that people he appointed to office, and people who knew him best in office, refuse to support him. We need to stress to the normies that sensible parties with sensible policies have continuity and aren’t a cult of personality.
Having unified previous leadership is a strength.
Cheers,
Scott.
CaseyL
Damn. Phil Donohue has died.
He was a talk show host who made talk shows a helluva lot more interesting, timely, and relevant than they’d been before.
He did special projects, like the talk show/diplomacy bridge with USSR media figure Vladimir Posner in the 1980s, which had American and Soviet civilians speaking directly to one another, in the heady days of glasnost.
He was a feminist, a gentleman and a scholar.
He was also an early casualty of the Iraqi War of Lies. He opposed the war, questioned its premise, and called the campaign to start the war a pack of lies. For this he and his show were unceremoniously dumped from MSNBC.
RIP, Phil. You were one of the greats.
Ken
We’ve got to do something to match the charisma of 71-year-old Terry “Hulk Hogan” Bollea ripping his shirt.
Shalimar
Just read that Trump will finally be on the campaign trail again this week. Monday in Pennsylvania, Tuesday in Michigan, Wednesday in North Carolina, Thursday in Arizona, Friday in Arizona and Nevada. Having Trump trying to counter-program with “policy” speeches seems to me like excellent news for Democrats. He and his crowds will look pathetic compared to the convention, and he won’t say anything other than meanderingly list grievances because he never does.
Soprano2
@Baud: I hope Bill has learned to keep it short! LOL
MazeDancer
Figuring out when the opening gavel happens isn’t easy. Time zones. And each site wants you to start when they do.
The DNC says it will begin at 630 EDT.
C-Span says they will offer a “preview” starting at 5:30 EDT. Coverage to begin at 6:15.
WaPo is unclear, but I have found their YouTube stream to be excellent quality. And they won’t offer a link now. You can search at YouTube around 6 ish.
Local TV in Chicago offering streams, too. Too many link. Google and YouTube search are your friends.
MSNBC will start something at 6 EDT. But that will be anchored by the loathsome Ari Melber. Rachel starts at 8.
Hoodie
@Omnes Omnibus: There’s a fine line to walk there. Dems have nothing to apologize for those earlier administrations – in their respective eras they were each about turning the page and were generally successful. The theme should be remembering them positively but making clear it’s not nostalgia for some lost paradise and more that Democrats have always looked forward and Republicans are bitter and unable to deal with change. Hence they subject all of us to Trump and his locked in the 70’s negativity.
Soprano2
OT – the kitty I’m babysitting is doing well. She’s getting braver and coming out more and more to be petted. So far she and the dog have an understanding, and seem to be getting along, although she still runs from him a little when he startles her. He doesn’t chase her, though. He just wants to be her friend because he’s lonely. I think he’s depressed, although that might be me projecting what I think onto him. He just seems mopey.
Baud
@Hoodie:
I wish. Too many Dems have suffered from fake nostalgia for LBJ or FDR.
Hoodie
@O. Felix Culpa: Depends on where they’re posted, but generally, yes. California, for example, has pretty strong right of publicity laws.
HeleninEire
@CaseyL: I loved his show when I was a teenager.
Belafon
@MazeDancer: The convention is going to be streamed on YouTube, so the WaPo link really isn’t needed.
SatanicPanic
@Hoodie: maybe not nothing- Clinton’s personal behavior while in office was not great. He’s the one guy I wouldn’t mind seeing left off the list.
Hoodie
@Hoodie: That’s why it’s a fine line. Not saying it is completely true, but that sort of message would be preferable. I was listening to an interview with Plouffe this morning and he seemed to be working along those lines.
Omnes Omnibus
@Hoodie: Given that “For Our Future” is part of the theme of the convention, I don’t think that we will be wallowing in nostalgia. It looks like Obama only one of the past presidents/candidates who will give a keynote speech on any night. You don’t kick his oratorical skills in teeth. He is a generational talent, and he will understand the assignment.
Ceci n est pas mon nym
@Baud: Probably not. When I was a federal employee, the Hatch Act governed what I could do and say on the job or acting as a fed. Off the job there were very few restrictions. But there’s a more restricted category which Pete certainly belongs to.
p.a.
She’s young, blonde, attractive, rich. He’s a pig, and he can’t have her. It’s a weird unobtanium/dominance thing. In public.🤮
UncleEbeneezer
@Omnes Omnibus: Isn’t the point to use celebrities to attract people who might not otherwise be watching? To me it’s a no-brainer if you can get Beyonce, Swift, or whoever you absolutely do it knowing that it will result in tons of videos, tweets, attention, $ and hopefully votes. It’s also just fun and excitement. And the choice of artist also says something about our values and direction as a party. It will likely be artists that have strong appeal to young voters and PoC. And also artists who are outspoken about politics and freedom. The party that gets Megan Thee Stallion, Cardi B, whoever is infinitely better/cooler than the one that has to settle for Kid Rock (and other weirdos). It’s all about reinforcing the notion that the party is really happening over here on our side, so come join us.
Anne Laurie
Rescues can be like little kids — convinced the ‘new guy’ was brought in specifically to replace them. Some rescues get hella defensive; others (like maybe your guy?) quietly resign themselves to being ‘discarded’ yet again.
As long as your (newish, IIRC?) dog isn’t chasing or harassing the new cat, I’d say just go out of your way to reassure him that you STILL LOVE HIM and aren’t planning on dumping him. At least not for having lost that fresh-pet aura!
Hoodie
@SatanicPanic: Their are still folks who view his presidency favorably. The issue is one of relative emphasis, I wouldn’t give him too much time. I think they’re intending to use him as an explainer, where he has been effective. I just don’t know how much he has left in the tank these days and whether he’s all that relevant anymore. After all, Obama can do some of that, and he’s more recent.
O. Felix Culpa
@Hoodie: Thanks!
Geminid
@OzarkHillbilly: Travis Kelce is too busy with his day job right now. He and Patrick Mahomes have big plans this season, and Kelce won’t have much time off between now and Valentine’s Day.
Jackie
@Baud:
He just confirmed he’s speaking on MJ. Pete, being Pete will be careful and mind whatever rules that are applicable.
O. Felix Culpa
@p.a.:
IOW, she is everything that he is not.
TS
@MazeDancer:
From Wapo
https://www.washingtonpost.com/elections/2024/08/18/dnc-speakers-list-schedule-how-to-watch/
The Washington Post will have coverage of the convention beginning at 7 p.m. Eastern time Monday through Thursday. Programming will be anchored by Libby Casey, Rhonda Colvin and James Hohmann live from Chicago.
I think it will be on the front page (from their link) but also youtube
https://www.youtube.com/washingtonpost
zhena gogolia
@Baud: He is, however, going to be on Colbert. I think Tuesday? Not sure.
Omnes Omnibus
@SatanicPanic: If you are around Harris’s and Walz’s age, Bill Clinton was the first time that our side won since we were old enough to vote. He put healthcare and LGBT+ rights on his agenda. He didn’t get it done, but the progress made later wouldn’t have happened if he hadn’t tried.
p.a.
J Marshall has great things to say about the DKos poll/election tracker site, which is spinning off as:
https://www.the-downballot.com/
Just adding: I can no longer cut/paste urls when it’s the default “Visual” tab. Have to go to the “Text” tab, paste, and the url is there. Tap back to the “Visual” tab and the url is there too.
OzarkHillbilly
@Baud: Fuck LBJ. Obligatory
Baud
@Jackie:
Thanks. Good to know he can. He’s always good.
Baud
@O. Felix Culpa:
I’m sure Trump will say he’s more attractive that Swift.
O. Felix Culpa
@Omnes Omnibus:
Agreed. Bill was a breath of fresh air after Reagan. We don’t need to and shouldn’t memory-hole him.
Soprano2
@Anne Laurie: Actually, I think he’s depressed because of the changes that have happened this year. First we lost our other dog in February, then my cat Gary died a few weeks ago, so now he’s the only animal. I actually think he’s been mopey since Nitro, our other dog, died. He goes out on the porch multiple times every day and looks out the back door like he’s looking for Nitro, even though he was there when Nitro died. That’s one reason I tried to get another dog, because I felt like he needed that companionship. I’m hoping this cat will help perk him up some.
twbrandt
There was a lot of unhappiness here and in other spaces about Gov. Hochul possibly speaking, but I don’t see her in the above list.
O. Felix Culpa
@Baud: Trump says many things. None of which are true.
SatanicPanic
@Omnes Omnibus: yeah I don’t disagree, it’s the Lewinsky thing that isn’t great. Maybe we’ve all accepted that was bad and we can move on, I dunno.
mvr
@Burnspbesq: That’s cool! Really like Isbell’s music and at least in his public persona he seems like a nice guy.
Jeffg166
Glitz, glamour and action every night. Don Old is going to have a major sadz.
OzarkHillbilly
And today’s winner in the Octopus slapping contest is….
Omnes Omnibus
@twbrandt: That list is just the prime time, big names. There will be speeches and panels going on from open to close every day.
SatanicPanic
I’m actually excited to watch this convention, it’s been a while since I said that. Sixteen years to be precise.
mvr
@Baud: I don’t think there is a legal limit on his speaking but I think he can’t spend federal money on it (or at least has to reimburse the fair market value of his flights, etc. But he flies commercial anyway. There may also be rules about how he can represent his opinions either in regulation or in the guidelines the admin wants secretaries to follow.
TBone
@Baud: thank you for sharing!
TBone
@Belafon: the tankies are all over that today 🙄 where I check in to see what Pooty wants them to say and focus upon.
Other MJS
@Jeffro:
“Rigged” is when a convicted felon is the inevitable candidate. #projection
Ken
Having Clinton and Obama speak at the DNC also contrasts with the absence of GW Bush from the RNC. I wouldn’t think any of the DNC speakers would mention that during their speeches, but I hope they have some people to draw attention to it in other ways.
PST
I am sometimes guilty of the vice of name dropping, and even though I usually try to stop myself, here I go again. About a dozen years ago, I was newly separated and had moved into a rented condo in a large building. I needed furniture, so I responded to a notice tacked to the bulletin board in the mail room with tear-off phone number tabs (remember those?) by a resident who was moving out of state and wanted to sell some stuff. To my great surprise, the seller was Jeff Danziger, which I knew because he had the most fantastic computer lash-up I had ever seen until then, with multiple large-screen flat monitors attached to articulated arms all connected to a computer with a drawing pad and covered with artwork in the distinctive Danziger style. I suppose now every day trader and dedicated game player can boast something like that, but I was sick with jealousy then. That, alas, was not for sale, not that I could have afforded it.
TBone
@CaseyL: 😞
All of what you said: 🎯
Gin & Tonic
@Ken: I read somewhere that no former Republican President or VP or Pres or VP candidate (except the thrilla from Wasilla) is endorsing/supporting TFG. Pretty significant contrast.
twbrandt
@Omnes Omnibus: I guess if she’s relegated to the B- list, who cares?
comrade scotts agenda of rage
@Bupalos:
I’ve often posted what has been characterized here as my “stupid” take on Clinton and Obama which is a more snarky and blunt assessment of their policy legacy (outside of the ACA) than yours but basically ideologically in line with it.
But, this week is essentially political theater and both Clinton and Obama are supremely gifted political people, thus, having them up there doing what they do best ain’t a bad thing.
gvg
@Omnes Omnibus: He also BLOCKED much worse things. The trends were against us, and I include too many democrats. Bill gets blamed for things Congress did AND the public wanted.
Black citizens were asking for tougher drug laws and more policing because crime had risen before then and they were the victims more than others. They were overwhelmed and tired of it. At that time we didn’t know that crime rates were going to go down soon both in places that gave heavy sentences and light. After the fact we have guessed it might be removing lead from the environment, but then we didn’t know. We also didn’t know how much the heavier sentences would be slanted against black men.
Clinton tried to bring more equality for minorities. He protected women’s rights, even while being a hound dog himself (yes I know that doesn’t make much sense) and he was pro environment. He also was less extreme in dismantling capitalist regulations than most others at that time. It seemed like most people thought we didn’t need the FDR protections anymore or even anti monopoly rules.
TBone
@p.a.: you nailed it, plus he knows she’s sooo much more influential than he could ever be.
Sure Lurkalot
@Omnes Omnibus:
The Never Trumpers make believe that everything was sweetness and light in the Republican Party before Trump came along when clearly, its trajectory to authoritarianism and minority rule was well established way before the voters they created started worshipping Trump. The past cannot be erased. H/T Driftglass and Blue Gal
SiubhanDuinne
@CaseyL:
I am surprisingly sad to see this news. A true pioneer, and by all accounts one helluva great guy. RIP, Phil.
TBone
@UncleEbeneezer: exactly AND it’s part of celebrating! What’s a party without music?
mvr
@Omnes Omnibus: On past prez’s and pols. I’ve always been ambivalent about Clinton, but Obama shouldn’t be easily cast aside. If we were ever going to have a first black president he was going to be cautious by nature. This, IMHO, was part of his success but also why he deferred too much to more “experienced” advisors on things like the economy. That led to the too slow recovery from the Great Recession, but it also enabled him to be a calming figure early on while things were unstable and very scary. He is also just a great speaker and campaigner. I love the image of him in the rain at the end of the 2nd campaign (iirc) with Stevie Wonder playing in the background as he ended his talk.
Clinton had a lot of political talent, got more liberal after his term of office as the party did, and got himself elected. All good things. But he fucked up to allow scandal near him as president, thereby risking things that matter to many besides himself, and probably was an ass (at best) to more than one woman. Hence my ambivalence. Not that I’d deny him a speaking role.
TBone
@Omnes Omnibus: 👍
Omnes Omnibus
@TBone:
Who argued against music?
catclub
CNN article on travel talks about concerns that travel is slowing, but then buries the
Other MJS
@OzarkHillbilly: So a seal one-ups the Python Fish-Slapping Dance.
comrade scotts agenda of rage
@Sure Lurkalot:
Driftglass has been pounding this more recently but his ‘Republican Detachment Disorder’ has been a constant refrain going back almost 10 years. An example:
TBone
@OzarkHillbilly: 😆
TBone
@Omnes Omnibus: someone said something to the effect of rock stars/musicians shouldn’t eclipse our politicians. I think they perfectly complement each other in this instance.
catclub
@Omnes Omnibus: The Taliban
Omnes Omnibus
@TBone: I questioned whether a performance by Beyonce or TS might not up stage the politicians. That is different from opposing an appearance or the use of their music. Not too many politicians would want to go on stage following either of those performers. For good reason.
Kayla Rudbek
@O. Felix Culpa: most likely yes, she can stop it, although it’s a matter of state law instead of federal law in the US (right of publicity). The European Union also has some applicable laws with some teeth to them if I recall correctly, and she can sue there too because he’s publishing on the internet. Not sure about the UK because Brexit messed everything up
TBone
@Omnes Omnibus: 👍 I wasn’t reading carefully enough
Nelle
@Gin & Tonic: What is astounding is that a party nominates the same guy three times in a row, a guy who never won the popular vote. No wonder we are bored by him.
PST
@O. Felix Culpa:
The answer would be a definite yes if the use were commercial. I believe that is true in every state. No question Ms. Swift could stop the use of her image to sell Trump steaks. I am not sure if the law is that clear with political use. It ought to be, but a very quick search for case law was unavailing.
Citizen Dave
@CaseyL: Feel like acknowledging this, since no one else has. In Indiana we knew Phil early on, from the Dayton days (if I recall correctly). The WLW sister stations, regional shows (Bob Braun) etc. I recently saw some Phil show clips in the Bob Newhart/Don Rickles 20 minute doc on YouTube. Took me back to his show, and letting the audience ask questions! Again if I recall correctly he “did it live”. The precursor and model for Oprah’s show. An influential American broadcaster. RIP.
tam1MI
@Soprano2: You are probably way ahead of me on this, but if the “mopey” behavior continues, you might want to take the dog to the vet. There might be a physical ailment triggering the behavior.
Citizen Dave
@PST: Tom Waits famously won a few million in a lawsuit against Frito-Lay. They had asked him to do a commercial. He declined. Their commercial had a Waits-soundalike, and he won on that basis.
hrprogressive
@lowtechcyclist:
100%. He wasn’t the guy I wanted back in 2020.
He turned out to be pretty amazing.
Glad to be wrong on both accounts!
satby
Hate to bust the first tweeters bubble, but that looked like the normal fireworks show put on during the summer on Sunday night at Navy Pier. Might have been a couple of extra booms, but it’s always spectacular.
Phil Donahue was a good guy. He and Marlo Thomas had been married 44 years?! I remember people wondering about that marriage lasting. Well lived lives, both of them.
Bex
@suzanne: Could happen since Trump posted fake pictures of her telling people to vote for him. If nothing else, her lawyers are probably very busy this morning.
Baud
@satby:
Agreed regarding the fireworks. We live in a age of hyperbole.
Omnes Omnibus
Aren’t you overstating it just a bit?
Ceci n est pas mon nym
@Citizen Dave: Definitely live. We were in the audience for one of those live shows, when for some reason he did it on the road in Syracuse. All I remember was that Charles Grodin was one of the guests.
No wait, I just remembered something else. One of the things one of his guests said must have been something about how “certified aerobics instructor” was meaningless, because I remember being very amused that the first audience question was “I am a certified aerobics instructor and…”
SatanicPanic
@mvr: Obama should always be front and center. People are going to ding him on various policy positions but I think the average normie Democrat loves the guy and doesn’t care too much about the details.
Soprano2
@tam1MI: He had his semi-annual visit in May, and the vet said he was healthy. He even had the extended bloodwork because he’s an old dog, but it didn’t detect anything unusual. I didn’t mention that I think he’s depressed, though. If it continues for much longer I’m going to contact the vet about it. Could be he’s just an old dog who isn’t that energetic anymore. I try not to anthropomorphize too much.
Chief Oshkosh
@Betty: Would be nice if more CW artists showed up. Who knows, maybe Garth will fly in on a zip line and Willie will pull up in the bus. The Chicks, Reba, LeAnn, EmmyLou, or Kacey are all long-time progressive advocates. There’s a lot to draw from.
Of course, if Beyonce, Taylor, and Dolly were to sing just one song together, well, the imagination just staggers.
:)
Chief Oshkosh
@O. Felix Culpa:
This is an excellent point. Even if they dug up a former Republican president, which rotting corpse wouldn’t still be marinating in the blood of innocents? Lincoln?
Chief Oshkosh
@Soprano2: Yep. He was a surprise speaker at an even I attended several years ago. Fantastic stuff, but man, he did go on.
Peggy
I downloaded the pdf of the 2024 party platform from the site @Baud: linked (democrats.org) and it’s titled ‘2020 Democratic Party Platform’ (bolding is mine). If it’s a typo I hope it’s corrected soon. Either way, the opposition party will no doubt make hay about it.
geg6
@Burnspbesq:
Since I don’t listen to country, I have no idea who this guy is. Is he really a country artist that’s a known liberal? I thought Tim McGraw and Faith Hill were the only ones.
stinger
@Ken:
Maybe W will be a surprise speaker this week! It appears he doesn’t support TCFG and has always surrounded himself with strong Black women.
wjca
IANAL, and the lawyers have weighed in on her case regarding use of her image, etc. But it seems like merely associating her with TCFG would violate the libel and slander laws. Even if she is a public figure.