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NOT breaking news: Terry Gene Bollea is an asshole (open thread)

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The washed-up 71-year-old former WWE performer who calls himself “Hulk Hogan” got drunk and made a fool of himself Monday (PennLive):

In a video obtained by TMZ, the retired wrestler at one point asked a cheering crowd, “Do you want me to body slam Kamala Harris?”

“Want me to drop the leg on Kamala?” he added, referring to one of his iconic wrestling moves.

The dramatically mustachioed quarter-wit also made dumb and offensive comments about Harris’s heritage, invoking ignorant stereotypes about Native Americans because he’s more clueless than Columbus. Later, he blamed beer:

Hogan later walked back his comments and suggested that the remarks he made was not a true representation of himself. He also blamed the comments on the alcoholic drinks he drank at the bar.

“I am going to get heat for that one, brother. That was not me. That was the beers talking,” he added before the video stopped.

No, Bollea — that was your racist, misogynist, drunk ass talking. We see you.

Bollea and his idiot, criminal kids and related hangers-on live in my media market. They all go by Hogan for some reason and are frequently covered by the local news when they maim people in car crashes, etc. Just garbage people who should fuck off into the sun.

Open thread.

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  1. 1.

    TBone

    He got news coverage during our convention.  I don’t think it was his beer muscles.  Fuck that guy, again, with someone’s rusty farm implement.  What a dick.

  3. 3.

    clay

    Lest anyone think this was a one-off:

    You know how Republicans think that you can’t be racist unless you use the “n-word”?  Well, Hogan Bollea has used the “n-word”.  Repeatedly. On tape.

    So yeah, even by the very lax Republican definition, this bozo is a racist.  And of course he spoke at Trump’s convention!

  4. 4.

    cain

    Hulk Hogan has always been a dick. I think that’s also true for “The Rock”. What is with all these damn wrestlers?

  6. 6.

    dmsilev

    In vino veritas.

    The booze doesn’t make you someone else, it removes the filters that you have that keep your true (ugly) self under wraps.

  9. 9.

    Mike E

    @cain: Hulk Hogan has always been a dick. I think that’s also true for “The Rock”. What is with all these damn wrestlers

    anabolic steroids toxic masculinity fragile male ego?

  10. 10.

    Trollhattan

    John Cena wannabe says what?

    Learning Trump has declared war on Google and lemme opine this is the payoff to Vance’s money dudes, who are all het on breaking up Google and whatever they’re calling Facebook now, Meta? Thiel et al are specifically looking to access the WH via Vance to advance their businesses and mow down their larger, more influential competition. And now, Trump is asking if what Google is doing in their election coverage and Trump coverage, “legal?”

    He’s not scratching an itch, he’s cashing techbro checks and doesn’t give a fvck about how the googles work. That’s Barron’s jerb IIRC.

  13. 13.

    BR

    That’s a mistake for MAGA. You’re never supposed to apologize or back down. I bet they excommunicate him.

  16. 16.

    Scout211

    @BR:You’re never supposed to apologize or back down.

    It wasn’t an apology.  It was moving the blame to the wicked alcohol.

    That was not me. That was the beers talking

    I guess it was backing down but was it sincere?  I think not.  He is a has-been celebrity who still needs fans, so I see it more as a PR attempt.  But YMMV.

  17. 17.

    CaseyL

    @Trollhattan: Breaking up Google wouldn’t be a bad idea: it was recently found guilty of monopolistic behavior, and it’s searches are now garbage (between the ads and the AI “assist”).

    I realize Trump/Thiel/et al want to break it up to enhance their own business, but the truth is Google hasn’t been the “good guy” for a while now.

  18. 18.

    hrprogressive

    Not many men have completely shit on, buried, dug up, shit on again, lit on fire, and re-buried their legacy like Hulk Hogan.

    Much prefer today’s modern wrasslers who aren’t racist Fascist raging bigots.

  19. 19.

    Jackie

    @dmsilev:

    The booze doesn’t make you someone else, it removes the filters that you have that keep your true (ugly) self under wraps.

    100% THIS!

  22. 22.

    jonas

    Is there anyone in Trumpworld who *can’t* be described with the words “a washed-up….” ?

  24. 24.

    cain

    Hey Betty, congrats to Florida for beating back pudding boot’s proxies in the school wars! Watching that asshole lose even more makes me happy.

  26. 26.

    Ceci n est pas mon nym

    @matt: Check out the screen shot at the link posted by TBone at #2.

    I watched it live, and he also glanced down at his hands after making the gesture and pretended to be surprised at what his hands appeared to be doing “unintentionally”. The gesture plus the look are just perfection.

  29. 29.

    Hungry Joe

    POSTCARD UPDATE

    Still waiting for my next batch of 200 from Postcards to Swing States. Meantime I’m helping out Ms. Joe with her Postcards for Sherrod Brown.

    Yesterday — 4

    Running total — I dunno. Not keeping track. I mean, it’s HER batch, right?

  32. 32.

    Trollhattan

    @CaseyL: Oh yeah, the “Don’t be evil” dudes have gone well past that prosaic goal and at least the EU seems properly focused on reeling them in.

    Nevertheless, fuck Peter Thiel and his tech bros.

  33. 33.

    TBone

    Dropkick Murphy FTW! 💙

    New Jersey will use federal dollars to purchase and forgive $100 million in medical debt held by more than 46,000 residents, Gov. Phil Murphy announced Tuesday.

    The state will use roughly $550,000 in federal American Rescue Plan funds to purchase the debt through a partnership with Undue Medical Debt, a Long Island-based nonprofit that purchases patients’ debts but does not move to collect them.

    That’s how you continue to do pandemic relief! 😍

    https://newjerseymonitor.com/2024/08/20/federal-funds-to-clear-100-million-in-medical-debt-owed-by-new-jerseyans/

  34. 34.

    chris green

    @Jackie: “You know the bottle ain’t to blame and I ain’t trying to / It don’t make you do a thing it just lets you”.

  37. 37.

    Trollhattan

    Ye gods Boeing.

    Boeing (BA) paused test flights of its 777X fleet, its new flagship aircraft, after a routine inspection uncovered damage to a part that connects the engine to the plane’s body, the company said Monday. Several planes in the fleet showed similar cracks in the structure.

    “During scheduled maintenance, we identified a component that did not perform as designed,” a Boeing (BA) spokesperson said. “Our team is replacing the part and capturing any learnings from the component and will resume flight testing when ready.”

    There are currently 481 orders for the 777X, whose commercial rollout — originally slated for 2020 — has been pushed back until 2025, according to One Mile at a Time. Almost half of those orders are from Emirates, which placed a $52 billion order for the wide-body planes last year to replace its retiring Airbus (EADSY) A380s.

    Also on Monday, the Federal Aviation Administration ordered inspections into Boeing’s 787 Dreamliners, related to a March incident that injured 50 when a pilot unexpectedly slammed forward into the controls while piloting a LATAM Airlines flight.

    The airworthiness directive will require airlines to inspect the captains’ and first officers’ seats for missing or cracked rocker switch caps or for cracked switch cover assemblies on 787-7, 787-9, and 787-10 planes within 30 days. The inspection will affect 158 U.S.-registered aircraft and 737 planes worldwide.

    “We fully support the FAA’s Airworthiness Directive which makes mandatory a supplier’s guidance to 787 operators,” Boeing said in a statement.

    TBF connecting engines to the plane doesn’t really affect legroom, so YOLO.

  39. 39.

    Hungry Joe

    @Trollhattan: The chance that one of those engines will fall off inflight is probably still pretty low — and if it does, well, why do you think they have TWO engines? Fail-safe!

  40. 40.

    Hoppie

    @CaseyL: There’s a Google-web-only search option that avoids most of the annoyances.  I’m hardly tech-savvy these days, but I expect you could Google it.

  41. 41.

    CaseyL

    @Trollhattan:

    Boeing’s descent since they broke the company and moved the corporate offices to Chicago has been just flabbergasting.  They’re not even a faint shadow of what they used to be.  More like its complete antithesis.

  43. 43.

    Jacel

    Glad to see wrestler (and former Minnesota Governor) Jesse Ventura has backed Harris and Walz after having earlier in the year expressed support for RFKJr. Ventura has long supported Walz in Minnesota.

  46. 46.

    JoyceH

    @opiejeanne: I hope not – he comes across as a nice guy. Love him in the Jumanji reboots. Of course, Bill Cosby taught me that coming across as a nice guy is no guarantee…

  47. 47.

    JML

    I loved Hulk Hogan as a pro wrestler. Great ring presence, so fun to watch, and his ridiculous over-caffeinated spots were awesome to young me. Sucks that he’s such a terrible, terrible person. he should have stuck with being the Hulkster all the time instead of letting his MAGA-fied racist sexist asshole true self out to play.

    Yo, jackass: beer doesn’t turn you into a racist. It’s never turned anyone into a racist. It just lowered your inhibitions enough for you to let your inner racist fly. Congrats on revealing yourself. Half-assed non-apology apology NOT accepted.

  48. 48.

    The Kropenhagen Interpretation

    @KatKapCC: Ah yes, right wing masculinity: Let’s beat up women for fun, har har har!!!

    Violence against a smaller person not prone to violence always has been and always will be funny.  Just like an Andrew Dice Clay joke.

  50. 50.

    The Kropenhagen Interpretation

    @JML: I loved Hulk Hogan as a pro wrestler. Great ring presence, so fun to watch, and his ridiculous over-caffeinated spots were awesome to young me.

    I mean I don’t know, but I suspect…that wasn’t caffeine.

  51. 51.

    Kay

    The saddest thing is that rural young white men have modeled themselves on the worst Right wing men.
    It’s tragic. There are a lot of good men, but boy does the Right promote and reward the worst of the worst.
    He’s  a sloppy, insulting drunk. Another pillar of Right wing manhood.

  52. 52.

    danielx

    @TBone: ​
     I know it was mentioned in at least one previous thread but I gotta admit, I’m still overwhelmed by this display of logic cited in Tiedrich’s article:

    By Amy Gardner
    National reporter

    “Donald Trump says he will refuse to accept the election result if he loses again,” Biden said. But that’s not true. Trump just hasn’t said that he would accept. And he has previously said the only way he loses is if the Democrats cheat.

    Well, okay then. Glad Ms. Gardner was able to clear that up for us.

    She’s being paid six figures a year for this shit? Sign me up for that job.

  53. 53.

    The Kropenhagen Interpretation

    @danielx: “Donald Trump says he will refuse to accept the election result if he loses again,” Biden said. But that’s not true. Trump just hasn’t said that he would accept. And he has previously said the only way he loses is if the Democrats cheat.

    Trump didn’t say 4, he said 2 then told us all to add 2 more. Clearly no connection to 4.

  54. 54.

    Chris Johnson

    @cain: Well, that one got some bad press from the Gawker turned off by Peter Thiel, so he’s an owned man… they’re just actors slash stuntmen after all. You can’t expect too much.

  61. 61.

    SatanicPanic

    @JoyceH: I haven’t heard anything about him being that bad, but he’s got a reputation as being a self centered jerk in private.

    His return to WWE was pretty rough-he showed up and immediately tried to move Cody Rhodes out of the way, after WWE had spent like two years building up a match between him and Roman Reigns. Rock wanted to fight Roman for the title and he almost jawboned WWE into giving it to him.

    Or that’s what WWE wanted us all to think and it was a work from the beginning, who knows

  63. 63.

    Czar Chasm

    I cannot begin to count the number of wrestling fans that were low-key crushed when Roman Reigns lost the title at Wrestlemania; not because they didn’t like Cody Rhodes (who solved racism, dontcha know), but because if Roman had retained there, he would have been almost guaranteed to beat The Yellow Racist’s title reign length.  *sigh

  68. 68.

    NickM

    “The washed-up 71-year-old former WWE performer who calls himself “Hulk Hogan” got drunk and made a fool of himself Monday.”

    In other breaking news, water still wet…

  71. 71.

    jonas

    @CaseyL: I think they moved HQ a while ago to outside DC — you know where they could lobby and gladhand politicians more effectively to score contracts and overlook their shitty safety record.

    All this goes back to the Jack Welch-mentored management team that started taking over Boeing in the late 90s and prioritizing “shareholder value” (and their own bonuses) over making good airplanes.

  74. 74.

    jonas

    @The Kropenhagen Interpretation: Glenn Kessler is such a fucking tool. Maybe the past couple of days recovering in the burn ward has given him time to reflect on said toolness, but I sort of doubt it. These people are like the MAGAts they claim to cover — incapable of shame or introspection.

  76. 76.

    Burnspbesq

    Oh, boy, this is exciting: my new car has been loaded on a ship and is currently transiting the English Channel en route to Baltimore. The estimated delivery date of 9/20 is starting to get real.

  78. 78.

    Kay

    So Trump sounds really weird – sedated.
    I wonder what’s going on? Could this be his lame attempt to seem more normal?
    If so expect the NYTimes to run 11 Trump Reconsidered stories by Friday.

  81. 81.

    SiubhanDuinne

    @Trollhattan:

    “Our team is replacing the part and capturing any learnings from the component and will resume flight testing when ready.”

    Jesus reading an annual report word for word on Power Point Christ, but I loathe this kind of corporate-speak crap.

  82. 82.

    BR

    I’m finding myself most moved by Doug Emhoff’s speech after watching again. The Obamas were good but I’ve watched probably thousands of hours of them over the years. Doug saying “I trusted Kamala with my family’s future and it was the best decision I ever made” is meaningful.

  83. 83.

    lowtechcyclist

    @jonas:

    Is there anyone in Trumpworld who *can’t* be described with the words “a washed-up….” ?

    Well, JV Dance isn’t ‘washed up’ yet, but he’ll join that club on the morning of November 6.

  84. 84.

    jonas

    @Trollhattan:  Nevertheless, fuck Peter Thiel and his tech bros.

    I think it was Mark Cuban in an interview a few weeks ago who pointed out something the MSM has really missed (from what I can tell) wrt these tech billionaires all coming around to Trump: it’s not tech culture or Silicon Valley as such that they’re representing, it’s crypto. “This is a big crypto play,” as he put it. They basically want Trump to scotch any regulation or oversight of crypto so they can cash in on speculation and other related grifts over the next four years.

  88. 88.

    The Kropenhagen Interpretation

    @jonas: Nothing to be ashamed of. Splitting hairs and putting lipstick on pigs are challenging and highly specialized skills that he brings to his job every day.

  91. 91.

    jonas

    @SiubhanDuinne: “The engine experienced an unscheduled discontinuation of attachment to the plane body, resulting in a de-elevation of aircraft performance and imperitavizing a review of future engine-wing adherance issues”

  92. 92.

    lowtechcyclist

    @Trollhattan:

    TBF connecting engines to the plane doesn’t really affect legroom, so YOLO.

    I’m sure the bean-counters will find a way to fix this problem.  ;-)

  96. 96.

    The Kropenhagen Interpretation

    @SiubhanDuinne: I loathe this kind of corporate-speak crap.

    Yeah, mostly it’s there to obscure the truth with jargon. Sometimes they come up with real gems, though.

    Like I love “synergy.” Very useful in discussing game strategies.

  97. 97.

    Geminid

    @Baud: Rep. Pascrell was Chair of the Energy and Commerce Committee; a powerful post. He likely played an important role in drafting the IRA.

  98. 98.

    TBone

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/ukraine/2024/08/21/ukraine-moscow-drone-attack-updates/74886216007/

    Russian defenses shot down dozens of armed drones, including several in the Moscow region, in one of the biggest assaults on Russian territory since the war began, Russian authorities said Wednesday.
    Some of the drones were shot down over Podolsk, a city of more than 300,000 people about 20 miles south of the Kremlin, Moscow Mayor Sergei Sobyanin said.
    “This is one of the largest attempts to attack Moscow using drones ever,” Sobyanin said in a social media post Wednesday. “The layered defense of Moscow that was created made it possible to successfully repel all the attacks.”

  100. 100.

    scav

    @SiubhanDuinne: Well, perhaps cracked rocker switch caps are still theoretically capable of learning, while all the cracked components of the broken Boeing corporate infrastructure are demonstrably not. Something like that?

  102. 102.

    Burnspbesq

    Turns out that Angela Alsobrooks, the Dem candidate for Senate in Maryland, is a Duke alum.

    Wonder if there will be rioting on Route 1 if she wins.

  105. 105.

    Soprano2

    @Kay: This is true, no matter how many times he shows them who he is the press still holds out hope that one day he’ll turn more normal, so they can quit having to sift through the crap that spews from his mouth to find a few nuggets they can try to represent as typical of him so they can pretend he’s normal.

  106. 106.

    SiubhanDuinne

    @Baud:

    I’m sorry to hear this. I don’t know much about Pascrell, but I’ve known his name and been aware of him for what seems like decades. Condolences to his family, friends, and constituents. May he RIP.

  107. 107.

    Scout211

    I am eagerly awaiting Beyoncé’s response to Steven Cheung “brazenly stealing” her song Freedom that she so generously gave the Harris campaign to use. Was he taunting the Harris campaign or Beyoncé?

    Steven Cheung’s Twitter.

  109. 109.

    Jackie

    @Renie: It WAS a joke; MJ played it this morning and poor Mika fell for it with dismay, and the gang had to reassure her. It was funny to watch.😁

  110. 110.

    KatKapCC

    @BR: It’s always so nice to hear a man talk in such glowing terms about the woman he loves. Not just about her beauty or whatever, but her as a person — her accomplishments and her strengths and her intellect and such. So many men seem to get into the “ball and chain” mindset the moment they get married. Nice to see some guys are not shy about telling the world how amazing their wives are.

  111. 111.

    BR

    The most wrong person in the world made a good point — Bill Kristol said what makes the Democratic party healthy is that it has a “past, present, and future” and many different aligned but not identical versions of each of those.

    And that is striking and made me think — Trump like 1984 has erased all of that — “Who controls the past controls the future: who controls the present controls the past.”

  117. 117.

    BR

    @Kay:

    I’m not sure which event you’re referring to, but I watched part of Trump’s Michigan event and he didn’t seem normal, just very tired and old.

  126. 126.

    Jackie

    @KatKapCC: I especially loved his emphasizing how much he loves Kamala’s laugh! And warned about “getting the look” from her… the camera panned their children showing them nodding in knowing agreement lol! Nobody wants to be on the receiving end of “the look!”

  131. 131.

    Leto

    @Omnes Omnibus: I know most artists agents/lawyers will just send a cease and desist, but I really would like them to take him to court and secure more victories. Even if it’s just a $1 pay out. Simply to continue to hammer home that he’s a loser, and that Republicans need to stop trying to get on the happy train. You have Lee Greenwood and Turd Nugget. That’s all you get, live with it!

  141. 141.

    Ella in New Mexico

    A wife beating drunker ex-fake wrestler is a racist jackass to boot?

    No, say it ain’t so!

  142. 142.

    eclare

    @BR:

    I would not have enjoyed James Taylor.  Lil Jon hit the spot perfectly.

    Different moods, different nights, I know, but I’m glad he was bumped.

  145. 145.

    JML

    @KatKapCC: Doug quite obviously adores Kamala. He was a pretty serious lawyer in LA too, so it’s a big thing that he gave up his practice to teach at Georgetown in order to ensure that he didn’t create a conflict of interest for her. I think it’s great how he’s supportive of her not because he has to but because he wants to. He truly seems to admire her success, without envy.

    seems like a pretty great role model.

  150. 150.

    Scout211

    Preliminary viewer numbers   are in:

    According to analyst Michael Mulvihill, the overnight ratings for night two, from seven combined networks, indicate the DNC had 11.9 million viewers for the 10 p.m. – 11:45 p.m. ET timeline. This compared to the RNC’s second night — which had 7.7 million for the 10 p.m. – 11:15 p.m. ET timeslot — is a 55% increase.

    This is an even more drastic difference than night one, which featured a 21% increase of DNC watchers over the RNC’s viewership.

    This post will be updated when the final numbers for viewership are revealed.

  152. 152.

    Kay

    I found out today pediatricians have an actual “catch up schedule” for the kids of anti vaxxers who leave the anti vaxx cult and bring their kids in for shots. It’s different for different ages. There are a lot of these people, apparently .

  154. 154.

    Omnes Omnibus

    @JML: Like Travis Kielce, he is successful in his own sphere and is not at all threatened by a partner who is “at least” as successful.

  156. 156.

    Kay

    @BR:

    That’s what I mean. The sing songey “reasonable” voice. New.
    It’s almost comically fake. His cult members must notice it though.

  157. 157.

    KatKapCC

    @JML: Ah, but see, I’ve been informed by many people that because Doug had one instance of infidelity in his first marriage, it means he is the worst possible husband anyone could have, and thus Kamala should not be president because mumblemumblereasonsmumble.

  159. 159.

    Kay

    @Soprano2:

    I wondered if it were him insulting Medal of Honor recipients I know he doubled down on it but even some Trumpsters here thought that went too far.
    But he could be taking different drugs, I guess. I always believed he takes some kind of stimulant.

  161. 161.

    The Kropenhagen Interpretation

    @Ella in New Mexico: A wife beating drunker ex-fake wrestler is a racist jackass to boot?

    Man, it’s almost like you can’t look up to wife beating drunken ex-fake wrestlers anymore without finding out there’s something wrong with them.

    I blame cancel culture.

  162. 162.

    SiubhanDuinne

    @eclare:

    Gerunds are my favorite thing to hate in CNN reporting style (which has migrated to other news platforms, I think).

  163. 163.

    eclare

    @Leto:

    Taylor sued a DJ for $1 and won, to prove a point.  He said he was fired because she said he groped her.  He claimed that was a lie.  The jury agreed with Taylor.

  164. 164.

    3Sice

    Slurry brain and couchy-coo are at some third tier air historics museum. The P-51s behind the stage are mockups. Burnishing foreign policy credentials? He already has four years of failure on the books.. it’s kind of his thing.

  165. 165.

    Ken

    @lowtechcyclist: I’m sure the bean-counters will find a way to fix this problem.

    Based on past behavior, they’ll fire the people who reported the problem, order the rest to never report it again, then tell the FAA they’ve had no more reports of problems.

  166. 166.

    comrade scotts agenda of rage

    @Burnspbesq:

    I have a lot of friends still back there who are MD grads.  Extremely liberal.

    But they’ll hold their nose and vote for her all the while muttering “fucking doook grad.”

  169. 169.

    Trollhattan

    @Kay: After California banned the religious exemption for vaccinating schoolkids (shoutout to my former state senator Dr. Richard Pan–hero) we had boatloads, or vanloads, or thousands upon thousands of kids who needed to do just that.

    There are still weasel parents and doctors who will sign off blanket exemptions “because reasons” but the sheer numbers of unvaccinated kids has dropped.

  170. 170.

    Leto

    @Scout211: I understand why WV played what they did, but it was so out-of-sync with the overall theme of the playlist… but WV seems to be out-of-sync with everything so it kinda tracks.

    Lol JV Couch is trying to peddle a “Trumpov is hope” line on the campaign trail. Floundering and gaslighting.

  171. 171.

    SiubhanDuinne

    @HumboldtBlue:

    I love that compare-and-contrast! They’re not only evil fascists, they’re also tedious as all fuck. And what we used to call “up tight” back in the ‘60s.

  174. 174.

    Leto

    @eclare: Sounds like Taylor has a solid case against the adjudicated rapist. And I do remember that case where Taylor sued the DJ.

  179. 179.

    Lily

    Threatening the VP — I don’t think there’s a drunk exception.  Now that he’s said, as himself, that it was his drunk real self who said that, he can’t even try to pretend there’s a show biz exception.

  182. 182.

    Belafon

    @BR: Kristol’s proof of what happens when you step outside and disengage from the Republican propaganda feed.

  183. 183.

    Ceci n est pas mon nym

    @JML: This is part of a general undertext of the Harris / Walz team, that they’re showing us positive masculinity, how you can be supportive of and be second banana to a strong woman without diminishing your own masculinity. Indeed, it makes you stronger as a man, demonstrates your confidence in your masculinity.

    I know that’s probably not news to most of the readers of this blog, but it will be to the males on the other side of the aisle and probably to a lot of teenage males trying to figure out who they want to be. It’s going to have a positive effect on our culture that will be hard to measure.

  184. 184.

    Belafon

    @Manyakitty: According to an article I read, since it happened before the deadline to file, the Democratic party in the state can pick a new person to run in his place.

  186. 186.

    artem1s

    @jonas: 

    “This is a big crypto play,” as he put it. They basically want Trump to scotch any regulation or oversight of crypto so they can cash in on speculation and other related grifts over the next four years.

    no coincidence I’m sure that right before the JOEMUSTGO screams heard round the world started Biden had announced plans to implement taxes on server farms’ energy usage.

  188. 188.

    eclare

    @Leto:

    Assuming the roll call songs become a yearly thing, and how could they not, I hope Memphis has some influence next year, and TN picks something by Al Green.

    Please, no Elvis, although I’m sure it’s inevitable.

  194. 194.

    Eric S.

    @cain: FWIW, a friend of mine worked in the movie industry and worked on one of Johnson’s  (The Rock) movies. He said Johnson is considered a pro-crew actor. He does the extra things to make their lives better on set.

  196. 196.

    Omnes Omnibus

    @Scout211:

    @Leto: BY ALL MEANS underestimate the political power of Alpha Kappa Alpha

    Then there is screen shot that I can’t cut and paste.  I summarized the damned post.  I can just go back to not linking to anything if it’s such a bother.

  198. 198.

    JoyceH

    @eclare: this roll call was fun! I watched the whole thing, which I hadn’t expected to do. And it’s hokey, but I love that the Wisconsin delegates wear those goofy cheese hats.

  200. 200.

    Ken

    @3Sice: Slurry brain and couchy-coo are at some third tier air historics museum.

    If I understand correctly, this week’s appearances are all in towns with great historical significance to the Klan. So you have to kind of expect they’ll fall short on other amenities.

  201. 201.

    jonas

    @Baud: Thanks for the link. Interesting to see how this is playing out in the Montana race in particular — Tester’s apparently on their shit list for calling crypto a “scam”. I hope this gets more coverage as election day approaches. People saw what went down with SBF and his crypto scamming. Plus, the idea of crypto-mining farms springing up everywhere driving up energy costs and contributing to climate change is not going to be too popular, either. That’s what Thiel and these guys are pushing for.

  202. 202.

    Jay C

    @Belafon:

    Was Pascrell’s passing sudden/unexpected? I read that he had been sick for a while: presumably his running again (if he was) was an instance of optimism?

  203. 203.

    Leto

    @Omnes Omnibus: remember how we had the discussion a couple of days ago about not everyone being able to view shit that people post due to not having accounts with various sites? If you want to stomp your feet, and talk about taking your ball and going home, you’re more than welcome to do that. Or you can not be an asshole when someone asks you wtf did you post. Entirely your call.

     

    @eclare: If they do keep this up, each state has a pretty good catalogue of artists to choose from. SC needs to do some Hootie though :)

    Elvis has some good stuff, and I can totally see Nevada going that route.

  204. 204.

    Scout211

    CNN posted some Trump quotes from his interview with Hugh Hewitt.

    “I was mentioned at the Democrats’ little party that they have going on in Chicago, and it’s pretty sad,” he said on the “The Hugh Hewitt Show.”

    Trump said that Democrats didn’t talk about violent crime in the city, “but I was mentioned, I think, almost 200 times. And they mentioned the economy about five times. They mentioned the border maybe none. They mentioned crime almost none. So, I mean, they’re out of control.”

    Trump also mentioned the scheduled upcoming debate with Harris on September 10 and how he would counter her line of attack that she’s a prosecutor and he is a convicted felon.

    “Actually, actually, it’s pretty simple. I’m going to say they’re the ones that started it. They did this against their political opponent. I’m their political opponent, and they started all of this, and it’s never been done in this country before. And I’m a totally innocent person. And the people know that,” Trump said. 

    The former president also said he thought Democrats are “making it very hard for Israel to win” and that Harris was “giving the other side tremendous hope” when he was asked about Israel’s war against Hamas in Gaza.

    Democrats are just so mean to him and they started it!  Waaaaah!

  210. 210.

    Belafon

    @Jay C:

     

    The 14-term congressman was hospitalized for nearly a month this summer after experiencing a fever related to a respiratory illness. He was discharged to a rehabilitation center on Aug. 7 but was readmitted to Cooperman Barnabas Medical Center in Livingston, N.J., just four days later.
    The feisty octogenarian was the second-oldest House member, behind only retiring Rep. Grace Napolitano, D-Calif. The oldest member of Congress is Sen. Chuck Grassley, R-Iowa, who turns 91 on Sept. 17.
    Pascrell was the second New Jersey congressman to die this year. Fellow Democrat Donald Payne Jr. died on April 24 at the age of 65 after suffering a heart attack related to diabetes complications.
    Pascrell had been running for re-election to his 9th District seat in November.
    Because the vacancy has occurred before an Aug. 27 deadline — 70 days before the general election — Democratic county committee members will be able to handpick a new nominee by Aug. 29, according to state election law.
    Pascrell had been seeking a 15th term and was the favorite against Republican Billy Prempeh, his opponent during his last two elections. In 2022, Pascrell defeated Prempeh by more than double digits, 55% to 43% in the deep-blue 9th Congressional District; Joe Biden trounced Trump there in 2020 by 19 percentage points.

     

    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/bill-pascrell-democrat-new-jersey-congressman-dead-rcna166227

  213. 213.

    Ken

    @Scout211: It will be interesting to see how this “here’s what I’m going to say at the debate” strategy works out for Trump. Probably about as well as Sam Bankman-Fried’s “go on social media before the trial” strategy did for him.

  214. 214.

    Omnes Omnibus

    @Leto: I summarized the thing in my first post.  You can see that what was able to copy and paste wasn’t any more informative than my summary.

  220. 220.

    Bill Arnold

    @SiubhanDuinne:
    “learnings” could be an import from Indian English.
    (Similar: “the needful” and “informations”.)
    Can any Indian-English speakers confirm?

  221. 221.

    KatKapCC

    @Omnes Omnibus: I think what people are saying is that “Trump took a shot at AKA” is kind of vague. That could mean a million things. Certainly you didn’t have to retype the whole screenshot, but it would have been enough to say he called an AKA event “very unimportant”.

  223. 223.

    Scout211

    Whoa! P!nk!! I’m thrilled! I love P!nk!

    Pink has been tappedfor a closing night performance by the Democratic National Convention, a source familiar with the plans told CNN.

    The award-winning singer-songwriter and global pop icon will perform on Thursday evening, the source said, ahead of Vice President Kamala Harris taking the stage for the most significant speech of her political career.

    John Legend tonight.

  226. 226.

    Leto

    @catclub: no, this is why NDI is done for some of those components.  Otherwise you get what happened to the F-15 fleet back in 2007.

    For those that don’t want to click the link: The nose section of an F-15 fell off in mid flight. Pilot ejected safely. The after accident investigation determined that the two main support braces that connected the nose to the main body had hair line cracks in them due to 1) exceeding the flight hours on the frame and 2) there was no inspection performed on those parts. The AF subsequently grounded the entire F-15 fleet, performed Non-Destructive Inspections (NDI) on the entire fleets connectors, and found that almost 50% of them had hairline cracks. It was cost prohibitive to replace them, so instead they retired 50% of the fleet because we were supposed to have an equal number of F-22s coming to us. And ofc that didn’t happen. Whomp whomp.

  227. 227.

    Leto

    @eclare: I know people have their favorite phase of Elvis, but I am partial to casino Elvis. The outfits, performances, and so many good renditions of songs were done during that time.

  229. 229.

    piratedan

    @Leto: per the powers that be, these were all artists that had to issue cease and desist to GOP candidates using their music without authorization.

    So they’ve stolen from everyone, John Denver to Lynard Skynard to Beyonce… it’s kind of breathtaking to understand that they’ll steal from anyone.

  233. 233.

    karen marie

    Bollea can get stuffed.

    This morning I watched the first two hours of last night’s DNC convention because I love the roll call!

    I’m always surprised that there are a number of “present” votes.  Hearing them made me curious whether there were any such votes at the GOP convention.  I found an AP article (I believe) that indicated some number of “will vote according to convention rules” or some such.  Anyone know what that means?

  235. 235.

    dmsilev

    In utterly unsurprising news, RFK Jr. is planning on dropping out of the race and “thinking about” endorsing Trump:

    Robert F. Kennedy Jr. will make a speech in Phoenix on Friday, his campaign announced, as the independent presidential candidate considers whether to drop out of the race and endorse former President Donald Trump.
    The campaign said Kennedy will “address the nation” Friday morning, without sharing details of what he will be speaking about. CNN has asked the campaign for additional information.
    Kennedy’s speech will come days after his running mate, Nicole Shanahan, said in a podcast interview on Tuesday that the campaign is considering whether to “join forces” with Trump to prevent the “risk” of Vice President Kamala Harris winning the election.

  237. 237.

    karen marie

    @KatKapCC:   When I was looking for info on the GOP roll call to see if there were any “present” votes (couldn’t find anything – all the results were for the DNC – pffft), I saw a WSJ article (didn’t click and read – no subscription but also fuck them) that had a headline to the effect of “DNC roll call, style over substance.”  I was like what the fuck did they watch?

  239. 239.

    The Kropenhagen Interpretation

    @dmsilev: Robert F. Kennedy Jr. will make a speech in Phoenix on Friday, his campaign announced, as the independent presidential candidate considers whether to drop out of the race and endorse former President Donald Trump.

    Would be the perfect capstone for his legacy of environmental activism. No one will promote a healthy environment and population the way Trump will…

  240. 240.

    The Kropenhagen Interpretation

    @karen marie: I saw a WSJ article (didn’t click and read – no subscription but also fuck them) that had a headline to the effect of “DNC roll call, style over substance.”

    The numbers for the vote totals were provided alongside a speech about the priorities of each delegation.  What more substance could there even be?

  241. 241.

    Leto

    @Geminid: yeah, I remember that. Slight difference in this instance though. If you look at an F-15, from just behind the glass to the tip of the nose cone, that’s the forward fuselage. That’s the part that fell off.

    There’s also the case of the F-15 that had the controls connected backwards, and the pilot died right at take off.

    Edit: there’s also A-10s that were absolutely shot beyond hell in Iraq that landed safely.

    “I was impressed,” said Lt. Col. Mike Millen, chief of the 355th Fighter Wing Commander’s Action Group and an A-10 pilot. “Kim landed that jet with no hydraulics better than I land the A-10 every day with all systems operational.”

  242. 242.

    dmsilev

    @The Kropenhagen Interpretation: The Post had this hilarious bit:

    The latest moves follow a clear shift in the public posture of the Kennedy campaign following a last-ditch attempt, through intermediaries, to reach out to the Democratic campaign of Vice President Kamala Harris in early August. The Kennedy campaign commissioned polling to show how Harris could improve her standing in the race if she announced that Kennedy would have a cabinet level position, and then attempted to share those results with the Harris team, according to campaign officials and a copy of the polling results obtained by The Washington Post.

    Harris allies have rebuffed requests for meeting, and dismissed Kennedy as a “MAGA-funded fringe candidate.” Following that statement, Kennedy and his allies have grown increasingly fierce in their denunciations of the Democratic Party.

    Shorter Harris campaign: “Fuck off, asshole”.

  243. 243.

    dmsilev

    @karen marie: What sort of “substance” should we be expecting in a roll call? States, number of votes, that’s about it. We got that. And we got style.

  244. 244.

    Old School

    @dmsilev:

    Maybe RFK Jr. wants to be single again.

    Robert F Kennedy Jr has said that he doesn’t want to be former President Donald Trump’s running mate because he doesn’t “think that my marriage would survive it”.

    The ex-Democratic, now independent candidate for president spoke to Variety at the Los Angeles premiere of Curb Your Enthusiasm, which stars his wife, actress Cheryl Hines.

    “I think he’s right,” Ms Hines added to the magazine regarding her husband joining the Trump campaign.

  248. 248.

    Geminid

    @Leto: The aircraft site that reported the F-15 story said the plane’s fuselage provided some lift. That must have been some tense flying for the pilot.

  250. 250.

    Scout211

    More lies and fantasies from the Trump rally today:  NBC

    During his campaign event in Asheboro, North Carolina, Trump claimed that, if he’s re-elected to the White House, he would solve global conflicts between Russia and Ukraine, and Israel and Hamas, before he’s inaugurated.
    “If we win, I’ll get that thing settled before I take the office. I’ll get it settled, as president-elect, I’ll get that war to stop,” he said.

    and

    “Did you see Barack Hussein Obama last night take those shots? He was taking shots at your president, and so was Michelle,” Trump said. “You know, they always say, ‘Sir, please stick to policy. Don’t get personal.’ And yet they’re getting personal. All night long, these people. Do I still have to stick to policy?”

    Ha ha ha. Trump is mad that his campaign team is trying to control him.  LOL

    What an idiot.

  252. 252.

    Scout211

    @Phylllis:What planet does this guy live on?

    Hard to know. The judge ruled that his home address was fraudulent.  Could be anywhere, any planet, but one with worms of course.

  253. 253.

    The Kropenhagen Interpretation

    @Dorothy A. Winsor: Also, the Ds cleverly matched the party-atmosphere of the roll call with the policy speeches Harris and Walz were giving in Milwaukee. Granted, the party got more air time

    If a tree falls in the forest and the vaunted MSM doesn’t cover it, did Kamala talk about policy?

    @Phylllis: What planet does this guy [Kennedy] live on?

    This one, regrettably.

  255. 255.

    OGLiberal

    Fuck that balding douchebag.  (Full disclosure – I am bald and have been sine laye 20s).  I just re-watched M. Obama’s speech.  Wow.  One of the best political speeches I’ve seen in my lifetime.  Her only competitiors are her husband…and I think she wins.  Nobody cares but homers’ opinions but, wow.

  256. 256.

    rikyrah

    David Roberts
    @drvolts
    “If you say you’re a campaign of joy, you can’t criticize Donald Trump” is a new standard that the media has just invented for Dems. That’s their job: to make up new things that Dems are supposed to be doing, or aren’t doing, and scold them. It’s work, I guess.
    12:21 PM · Aug 21, 2024
    https://x.com/drvolts/status/1826308724052680948

  258. 258.

    Leto

    @raven: I believe it. I knew plenty of F-16 pilots, some F-15 pilots, but surprisingly no A-10 pilots. Mainly due to station assignments.

     

    @Geminid: yeah the F-15 is a better glider, with 1 wing, than the F-16 is with no engine. One of the other nicknames for the F-16 is Lawn Dart. And ofc the F-4 proved that if you strapped a large enough engine to it, anything could fly!

  259. 259.

    JCJ

    @Leto: Whaddaya mean that is all they have?  They have Kid Rock!  They had the singer from Smash Mouth until his liver checked out

  260. 260.

    rikyrah

    It’s a beautiful clip

     

    AusPolMate – Time for a break
    @AusPolMate
    OMG: Jonathan Capehart (WaPo &
    @CapehartJ
    ) nails it & can’t hold back his relief & joy as he tries in vain to not shed a tear.

    Jonathan was last in the review of the speeches, his comment on Michelle Obama’s speech was “I feel like I have been seen”. This is so perfect!
    https://x.com/AusPolMate/status/1826110846193606749

  261. 261.

    The Kropenhagen Interpretation

    @rikyrah:“If you say you’re a campaign of joy, you can’t criticize Donald Trump” is a new standard that the media has just invented for Dems.

    Clearly the media doesn’t know how it feels to really criticize Trump.  They should try it some time.

  264. 264.

    cain

    @Eric S.: See, I heard that he was a very pro people person. Which is why I was surprised that he has some MAGA or anti-Democrat leanings.

  266. 266.

    Ceci n est pas mon nym

    @Scout211: And the Dems know it. This is part of the campaign strategy. Hillary warned us years ago that he’s way too easy to manipulate, making him vulnerable to our enemies. Nice that it makes him vulnerable to Dems as well.

    It’s an added bonus that it’s also funny.

  270. 270.

    Ken

    @karen marie: I didn’t watch the GOP convention at all, so I don’t know what the delegations said at their roll call but I can imagine.

    Something along the lines of “The great state of ___ casts all its votes for Trump. Hail Trump, our eternal leader!”

  273. 273.

    karen marie

    @The Kropenhagen Interpretation:   So the press complaints that they didn’t get enough space at the DNC …

    According to a news article I read (maybe AP?) the GOP used the press to make it look like they had a full house by giving journalists a huge amount of floor space and then additional space up in the bleachers.

    Meanwhile, Dems filled TWO ARENAS ON ONE NIGHT and didn’t have to pad it out with media.

    So sad!

  279. 279.

    Jackie

    A new University of New Hampshire poll in Maine finds Kamala Harris has increased her lead over Donald Trump to 55% to 38%.

    Perhaps more important, Harris leads in Maine’s second congressional district — which awards an electoral vote — by 49% to 44%.

    Excellent!

  281. 281.

    BR

    @Jackie: ​
    Whoa — that’s a bigger lead than I thought she has in some “solid” blue states.​ Edit: I thought this was New Hampshire, not Maine as a whole.

  282. 282.

    Baud

    @dmsilev:

    The campaign said Kennedy will “address the nation” Friday morning

     
    Does the nation have time to take out a restraining order?

  283. 283.

    The Kropenhagen Interpretation

    @karen marie: The RNC made them VIPs out of necessity.  Given their inability to match facts with context to determine reason, it doesn’t surprise me that this led them to focus more on their inferior personal experience at the DNC.
    No one cares you were made to wait in line twice, Dana Bash.

  284. 284.

    The Kropenhagen Interpretation

    @KatKapCC: NO FUN ALLOWED, NO FUN AT ALL, FUN IS BAD.

    Or something.

    The media is tiresome.

    If the whole thing were policy-driven and deathly serious, we’d be hearing complaints today about how the Democrats can’t loosen up.

  285. 285.

    AWOL

    @Phylllis: One that’s been fellating this family for almost nine decades. I’m glad he broke the spell. They’re mostly horrid humans. As for Hines, I have no idea what her sanity level is, but I’ve lost any respect I had for her as a human.

  287. 287.

    KatKapCC

    @AWOL: Considering basically every other living Kennedy has been fully and loudly supporting Biden/Harris and have all but told RFKJr to go eff himself, I don’t know why you’re lumping them all in with him.

  290. 290.

    scav

    @Baud: Maybe we’ll get really lucky and he’ll forget to affix the stamp to whatever the hell it is he’s scribbling the address on? Or, could the USPS just discreetly lose it?

  292. 292.

    OGLiberal

    @rikyrah: I love Capehart.  Was born and grew up near my hometown in NJ – few years older than me.  Went to a mostly minority prep school in Newark.  He’s working class background, black and gay.  I get his emotions.

  293. 293.

    Dan B

    @HumboldtBlue: I want to remind all delegates to check, and firmly fasten, the stick up their butts.

    DNC Party, jump about, fist bump, go over the top everybody!!

  295. 295.

    Old School

    John Legend and Sheila E. were spotted in rehearsals at the United Center, in advance of the third night of the Democratic National Convention.

    They will lead a tribute to Prince in advance of a speech by vice presidential nominee Tim Walz, the governor of Minnesota.

    Stevie Wonder is also performing tonight.

  296. 296.

    The Kropenhagen Interpretation

    @Ken: Media’s privileged access to political figures is far more important to protect than silly little things like the smallfolk voting.

  300. 300.

    danielx

    @Leto: ​
     Tell me if I’m wrong, but I seem to remember some guy dead stick landing an F-16 somewhere in the Chicago area some years back. It was supposedly impossible in a fly-by-wire airframe but the pilot managed it anyway.

  301. 301.

    Leto

    @Geminid: South Korea retired their last ones this past June. We also still use a few as ariel targeting drones out of Florida and New Mexico.

  302. 302.

    dnfree

    @rikyrah: We watch PBS Newshour every night.  When Jonathan Capehart is on with David Brooks, I love to watch Capehart’s face while Brooks is talking.  He’s trying not to react too obviously while he’s figuring out what to say.

  304. 304.

    KatKapCC

    @Old School:

    They will lead a tribute to Prince

    Can I pick the setlist?

    • Erotic City
    • Cream
    • Gett Off
    • Soft and Wet
    • Darling Nikki
    • Darling Nikki a second time just in case Tipper Gore is watching
  307. 307.

    Leto

    @danielx: Not sure about Chicago, but here’s one from Elizabeth City, NC. I don’t know the electricals on the F-16, but this video shows they can do something!

     

    @raven: have you heard of Jonny Kim?

    Jonathan Yong Kim (born 5 February 1984) is an American U.S. Navy lieutenant commander, former SEAL, Naval flight surgeon, Naval aviator, physician, and NASA astronaut.

    I watched a video on YouTube where he talks about his upbringing, and what led him to the SEALS, as well and continuing on… good lord, this guy. I think about the meme’s with Asian moms comparing children, and I think this guy basically set the bar so far beyond reach that that meme should be permanently retired.

  308. 308.

    jonas

    @Scout211: They did this against their political opponent. I’m their political opponent, and they started all of this, and it’s never been done in this country before.

    “Why should you go to jail for a crime someone else noticed?”

  310. 310.

    Leto

    @raven: Awesome! I’ve very familiar with that mission as that is the primary mission of the Shaw AFB (20th Fighter Wing) pilots. SEAD – Suppression of Enemy Air Defense, aka Wild Weasels. Crazy dudes.

  316. 316.

    karen marie

    @KatKapCC:   Yeah, I don’t click through on “gift links” to Wapo or FYTFNYT at this point.  I’m just one person but I’m one person who isn’t going to effectively endorse their bad behavior by going to their fucking websites.

  319. 319.

    Betty Cracker

    Re: the roll call, I was pleased that Florida went with our scruffy and beloved Tom Petty.

  321. 321.

    Wyatt Salamanca

    @dmsilev:

    This guy is such a fucking disgrace to the Kennedy family.

    Hopefully, Harris wins in November and we’ll never hear another word from this narcissistic asshole.

  326. 326.

    TBone

    Comment 🏆of the Day:

    “NYT:

    The Democrats Use the Convention to Try to Define Trump as a Self-Interested Fraud

    That’s odd. I remember that a civil trial in NY did that earlier this year, with a $450 million penalty. Must be my imagination.”

  328. 328.

    Scout211

    Update to the CNN story announcing P!nk for Thursday night I posted up thread.

    After this story published, country music star Maren Morris was spotted by CNN’s team on-the-ground in Chicago doing a sound check.

    Morris will also perform Wednesday night, according to a convention official.

    Sweet!

  329. 329.

    BR

    @TBone:

    In NYT language, Dems at best can only “try” to do things. Trump does things. If it were flipped it’d be “Trump defines Harris as XYZ.”

  330. 330.

    Trollhattan

    @BR: Right? Yoda suddenly appeared in my head saying “There is no ‘try’.”

    Trump does what Trump does. And he’s been doing it fifty years down the fucking street from you, NYT. Sack the fuck up and do your jobs.

  332. 332.

    Scout211

    Update to the viewer numbers from last night.

    The second night of the Democratic National Convention saw just a slight lift in viewership as 20.6M people tuned in across 12 networks, according to Nielsen.

    That’s about half a million more than the first night, once again besting the audience for the Republican National Convention, which suffered from a steep decline to just 14.8M viewers in its second night.

  333. 333.

    Tony G

    Well, he’s the perfect poster-boy for the contemporary Republican Party.  An asshole who pretends to be a tough guy in a fake sport.

  334. 334.

    Ceci n est pas mon nym

    Has anyone seen the detailed schedule for tonight? I haven’t been able to find it in the same places they posted the schedules of nights 1 and 2. No detailed schedule for tomorrow either. Just “5:30-10:00 Main Programming” for both nights.

  336. 336.

    Trollhattan

    @Scout211: But…the utter drama of the RNC’s outcome must have had everybody on the edges of their seats!

    “Oh, him? Again?”

    …doing the same thing over and over, expecting a different result.

  340. 340.

    HumboldtBlue

    @TBone: ​ 

    It would be an insult and a slap in the face to the party. Cheney did ONE right thing, and that was stand up to Trump. She is fully on board with every vicious, odious and nasty platform plank the GOP has, from forced birth to violence against immigrants… all of it.

    She’s no different from her GOP colleagues, she’s a hateful, nasty asshole and the idea she is or is willing to be a decent human being is fantasy at this point.

  341. 341.

    MisterForkbeard

    @dmsilev: what was nuts about Shanahan’s interview is that she was talking about Harris as this huge threat to the nation, but thought that Trump was great. Even more weirdly, she was saying Trump could help them do some really great things like protect the environment and help with people’s health. Just completely upside-down viewpoint.

  342. 342.

    Ken

    @Ceci n est pas mon nym: Has anyone seen the detailed schedule for tonight?

    I assume similar to last night — two of the front-pagers will post convention threads shortly after it starts, one will then post a second thread which Cole will bigfoot, and then one more late in the evening.

  343. 343.

    Baud

    @Scout211:

    Nielsen’s reported networks include ABC, CBS, NBC, Scripps News, CNN, CNNe, FOX Business, FOX News Channel, MSNBC, Newsmax, NewsNation, PBS. That’s minus Univision, which was included in the Night 1 tally.

     
    And looks like YouTube was excluded. (I assume that’s consistent with how the Republican numbers were calculated )

  345. 345.

    Scout211

    Amanda Gorman  made history as the youngest-ever inaugural poet at President Joe Biden’s festivities in 2021, where the then-22-year-old performed “The Hill We Climb.” She’ll return to the national political stage Wednesday evening at the Democratic National Convention, when she performs a brand new poem in support of Biden’s vice president, Democratic nominee Kamala Harris.

    Speaking to Vanity Fair exclusively as she arrived at the United Center in Chicago to rehearse, Gorman shared her nerves ahead of debuting the poem, “This Sacred Scene.”

  348. 348.

    Ruckus

    @dmsilev:

    Can you imagine the Kennedy clan seeing this?

    He’s always been at least a little weird but a Kennedy voting for shitforbrains? Has the world crashed into Mars and we just don’t know it yet?

  349. 349.

    Betty Cracker

    @KatKapCC: Tom never forgot, dog bless him! At UF home football games, the whole stadium sings Won’t Back Down between the 3rd and 4th quarters. It’s really something.

  355. 355.

    Leto

    @raven: the answer, before him, was zero. Then him, so 1. He was slated to be part of the 2024 Moon landing team, but… dude also holds the extremely rare rating of Flight Surgeon and Naval Aviator.

    Seriously, dude just absolutely broke the mold. Glad we have people like that.

  358. 358.

    Ruckus

    @The Kropenhagen Interpretation:

    Truth seems to have eluded the WSJ.

    Their goal has always been monetary so anything that they think might get the very wealthy not to be quite so wealthy will be negative for them. (I used to have a subscription because I was a business owner and did work for mostly nation/world wide businesses. Having a concept of what the monied might be thinking was important.

  362. 362.

    Trollhattan

    Waiting for a new thread but here goes: we may have had a Moti hit squad in our metroplex.

    A prominent Sacramento-area Sikh leader’s pickup truck was fired upon on a highway near Winters in what his organization and an international expert believe was an assassination attempt.

    Satinder Pal Singh Raju, a Woodland resident and a leader in the Khalistan movement to establish a homeland for Sikhs, as well as two other Sikh activists were unharmed in the shooting, which happened about 11:30 p.m. on Aug. 11 along Interstate 505. Officer Rodney Fitzhugh, a spokesperson for the California Highway Patrol’s Woodland office, said gunfire was reported on I-505 near County Road 27 in rural Yolo County, about 11 miles southwest of Woodland.

    According to a CHP log of the incident, Raju’s Dodge Ram 1500 was impounded as part of the investigation. The FBI would not comment on whether it was investigating the incident, or if it believes the shooting was part of a growing domestic and international threat it has been tracking. The threats involve foreign governments and are known as “transnational repression,” in which overseas states target perceived enemies living abroad.

    But an intelligence expert and the group Sikhs for Justice believe that the shooting was unlikely to have been random. They allege that India, which has been behind several plots against Sikh leaders in the U.S. and elsewhere, could be behind the troubling Northern California attack.
    https://www.sacbee.com/news/local/crime/article291234875.html#storylink=cpy

  364. 364.

    gwangung

    @Leto:

    I watched a video on YouTube where he talks about his upbringing, and what led him to the SEALS, as well and continuing on… good lord, this guy. I think about the meme’s with Asian moms comparing children, and I think this guy basically set the bar so far beyond reach that that meme should be permanently retired.

    Uh…you don’t know Asian moms…

    EVERY Asian kid knows about this guy…

  365. 365.

    Trollhattan

    @Ruckus: The WSJ OpEd page was always trash but they committed news coverage very well and often deeply.

    Then the Murdoch sale and so….

  366. 366.

    Baud

    Unfortunately, it looks like the NYT broke this story.

    U.S. Investigating Americans Who Worked With Russian State Television

     

    The F.B.I. raided the homes of two prominent commentators on Russian state television channels as part of an effort to blunt attempts to influence November’s election.

  367. 367.

    Leto

    @gwangung: You let me know the other Seal Team member, doctor, pilot, and astronaut that is out there, or what’s the equivalent of that. Oh, you play an instrument? That’s cute. Johnny is prep’ing to go to the moon. Oh, you got into this college? That’s cute. Johnny is a doctor AND a pilot.

    I think the next step above that is President. Person who does that has the next set of bragging rights.

    Edit: per your edit: WELL THEN YOU ALL KNOW THE BAR! :P

  370. 370.

    cain

    @Trollhattan:

    Modi needs to stop doing this – it just gets that movement riled up and you’re just giving it more attention. Isn’t there something more positive they can do?

    Hell, you could even give Punjab some perks. Maybe listen to their concerns?

  371. 371.

    cain

    @Baud:

    The GOP is going to collapse. She’s biding her time. She’s going to take over the party from the MAGA ashes and probably doesn’t want to be seen recommending a Dem president.

  373. 373.

    Misterpuff

    @The Kropenhagen Interpretation: It’s a “Campaign of Joy” because the Dems are fighting.

    The scales have fallen from our eyes, we have identified the enemy and we can see The Promised Land just beyond.

    Its time to take out the Big Boss and Level UP!

  374. 374.

    Geminid

    @Baud: The Northern Virginia news site FauquierToday broke the story on the Simes search. Nothing much happens in Rappahannock County so it was big news.

    The Ritter raid got a lot of publicity at the time; I think the NYT is basically putting 2 and 2 together.

    Also, there is reporting that former Rep. Tulsi Gabbard is now subject to Homeland Security’s “Safe Skies” program. Gabbard can still fly, but she’s subject to extra monitoring.

  377. 377.

    frosty

    @Burnspbesq: College Park is in PG County where they elected her County Exec so they’re probably resigned to it.

    They sure as hell aren’t going to vote for someone from (shudder) Baltimore!! Hogan was BaCo Exec before Governor.

  380. 380.

    frosty

    @Leto: I love the A-10. Redundant engines, tailplane, wing (half), bathtub armor for the pilot. Wonder how it would hold up in Ukraine against drones and MANPADs.

  381. 381.

    Geminid

    @Quinerly: I don’t think Cheney could say anything Kinzinger won’t say tomorrow night.

    But Cheney is better off laying low. There is a lot of talk about death threats to Republican apostates. I tend to discount this factor; after all, Reps. Dan Newhouse and David Valadeo voted to impeach Trump and they still walk the halls of Congress. But Cheney has a higher profile plus she’s a woman, so I expect she draws extra attention from vindictive nuts

    Ed. I think Liz Cheney’s career in elective office is over and she knows it. Someone will pick up the pieces if Trump wipes out, but it won’t  be Cheney.

  385. 385.

    SiubhanDuinne

    @Ceci n est pas mon nym:

    I just heard on MSNBC that Stevie Wonder is going to perform (unless, y’know, they James Taylor him). That’s pretty exciting.

    Looking forward to hearing what Secretary Pete has to say. Bill Clinton, in what feels like the flash of an eye, has transformed from gifted young politician-horndog into an éminence grise, and he’s usually pretty entertaining. I think we’re also getting Nancy and Hakeem tonight. But of course Tim Walz is tonight’s main draw, and from what I’ve seen of him in the last three weeks he will light that place up!

    Got back from grocery shopping a little while ago and was wearing one of my new Harris-Walz t-shirts. One guy, a 60-ish white guy, tracked me all over the Publix parking lot before pulling up to tell me “I love your shirt!” I did my standard response (“Are you registered to vote?”)  Then he told me that he and his wife met at Howard University, where they were both students; he and Kamala were on campus at the same time, although different years and different academic/social circles, so he didn’t know her. But he’s enormously proud of the Howard connection, and it’s a pleasure for me to know that there are 60-ish white guys in Atlanta’s northern suburbs who are happy warrior Democrats.

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