Find you someone who gets excited about you as Kamala Harris gets excited about cake. pic.twitter.com/j5GecSYjge
— Greg Sarafan™ (@GSarafan) August 30, 2024
Coach Walz serving ice cream and malts at the Minnesota state fair today with his wife Gwen. Good people ????. pic.twitter.com/oLRV34aLKm
— ?? Madam Auntie VP Kamala Harris for PRESIDENT! (@flywithkamala) September 1, 2024
Labor Day weekend and every day of the year, @HouseDemocrats are fighting for America's Workers.
We are committed to raising the minimum wage, strengthening protections to make workplaces safe, and protecting every worker’s right to organize. pic.twitter.com/naqL2HamBq
— Rep. Shontel Brown (@RepShontelBrown) September 2, 2024
Join us LIVE for the official virtual kickoff of @VietsForHarris on Thurs, Sept 5 @ 9pm ET/6pm PT! Hear from our Vietnamese American electeds & the VAfH team about why we’re excited to support @KamalaHarris for President, & find out how YOU can get involved today. #VietsforHarris pic.twitter.com/y4AvlcY7eO
— Vietnamese Americans for Harris (@VietsForHarris) September 1, 2024
Walz being a normal, likable human—in addition to his success as governor—is why GOPers keep trying to gin up weird controversies about him. Meanwhile, the entire Republican cinematic universe is deeply racist, misogynistic and offensive. Not great when you’re running for office. https://t.co/4QW61Qc5fv
— Jason Karsh (@jkarsh) August 30, 2024
— Republicans against Trump (@RpsAgainstTrump) September 1, 2024
Brutal, epic battles erupting on the Harris-Walz campaign about how to decimate Trump with the half-billion dollars they’ve raised in a matter of weeks, over betting pools on how big their convention bump will be, and about just how weird Trump is. Really hard to watch. https://t.co/9DdSbpS3wc
— George Conway (@gtconway3d) August 27, 2024
On The Road – Albatrossity – The past is not dead, it’s not even past.
lowtechcyclist
Good morning and happy Labor Day, y’all!
ETA:
Mmmm…malts! :-)
RandomMonster
Happy Labor Day! Workers of the World, Unite!
TBone
Happy Labor Day everybody!
🎶😍
https://youtu.be/VOS7OiLE11c
satby
Solidarity forever for the union makes us strong.
satby
Thanks for highlighting that VoteVets ad AL! That should be shared far and wide.
p.a.
Happy Labor Day!
Gas, charcoal, or wood?
Gas-infrared. What? No.
lowtechcyclist
Rep. Shontel Brown:
Damned straight!!
Layer8Problem
@lowtechcyclist: He likes mint chocolate chip ice cream and malts, showing us he is a man of culture as well.
Steve LaBonne
Richard Grenell does too have a Democrat friend. You wouldn’t know him, he lives in Canada.
Andrew Abshier
Man, the ol’ “Dems in disarray” is a drug the R’s can’t quit, is it? (Re: Richard Grenell Xeet) I can imagine there is a debate on how best to spend the pile of money raised, but I believe everyone knows the assignment, and the R’s can’t deal with that.
lowtechcyclist
@RandomMonster:
There used to be a big sign on U.S. 29 as you headed south towards Charlottesville that read “WOODMEN OF THE WORLD” in big letters. My mind always filled it in to read “Woodmen of the world, unite!”
Took a couple of years before my mind finished it up with, “You have nothing to lose but your chainsaws!”
Dorothy A. Winsor
@satby: I grew up in Detroit hearing that song. You have to stamp your feet in time to “the union makes us strong.”
sdhays
@Steve LaBonne: The Trump campaign is confident that creating suspicion around Harris’s critical McDonald’s experience is going to be their ticket to victory.
Working for The Onion must really suck these days since reality is already so absurd.
rikyrah
Good Morning, Everyone 😊 😊 😊
Layer8Problem
@rikyrah: Good morning!
lowtechcyclist
@sdhays:
And it must take all of DougJ’s energy to stay one step ahead of the FTFNYT.
suzanne
@Andrew Abshier: I can’t help but think that array is greatly overrated as a virtue. After all, when I see historical photos of Nazis in the public square, they seems very well arrayed.
Jeffg166
I wonder if Don Old will post videos of grown men walking up to him in tears telling him how special and wonderful he is.
suzanne
@sdhays:
This absolutely cracks me up. I worked at McDonald’s for a year when I was in high school. It, uhhhh, hasn’t been on my resume for a while.
sdhays
@lowtechcyclist: Some days they get past him. Nothing he can do.
rikyrah
Taylor Popielarz (@TaylorPopielarz) posted at 6:36 AM on Mon, Sep 02, 2024:
The presidential campaign schedule on this Labor Day:
• @KamalaHarris will visit MI and PA
• @JoeBiden will join Harris in PA
• @Tim_Walz and @GwenWalz will visit MN and WI
• @DouglasEmhoff will visit VA
• @realDonaldTrump and @JDVance don’t have any public events scheduled
(https://x.com/TaylorPopielarz/status/1830570422225576234?t=tAdOXVYgN7juXV5jLg_TVg&s=03)
Parfigliano
Yesterday was my first day in Florida AKA The Devils Steam Room. 3 more to go then never coming back.
sdhays
@suzanne: For me it was Papa John’s, and yeah – it’s pretty much never been on my professional resume.
satby
@Dorothy A. Winsor: I know, same in Chicago 😉
narya
Okay, I have finally found something about Tim Walz with which I disagree: Mint chocolate chip ice cream. (I can take fresh mint, in small doses, but mint flavoring is just vile to me–that includes York Peppermint Patties, mint chocolate chip ice cream, those pinwheel mint candies, all of it.)
I’ve finally seen some campaign ads, as I spent the weekend in Wisconsin (IndyCar returned to the Milwaukee Mile, which is an awesome place to see them run). I was pleased to see plenty of Harris commercials, and some Harris and Baldwin yard signs (in Waukesha), but also saw some TCFG shirts and hats at the races. Not as many as I expected, though. Also: I love how Harris can go into a store and oooh and aaah over the products, and select one (and I agree with her selection). Perhaps JD can watch it for some cues.
sdhays
@rikyrah: It sure is kind of the Donvict and the Couch Fucker to leave everyone alone on this holiday.
dmsilev
The Post this morning: Trump aims to drag down Harris as he scrambles to keep up in tight race
I mean, it’s their only real strategy, but they’ve been trying exactly that for a month and a half now, and it’s not worked. As noted, Harris has actually just gotten steadily more popular since she became the effective (and now actual) nominee.
Well, I’m sure those attacks will be scripted and coordinated by experienced campaign professionals….
Never mind.
dmsilev
@narya: If you can find it or make it yourself, mint chocolate chip ice cream using Creme de Menthe as the flavoring is very very good.
Citizen Scientist
Good morning y’all and happy Labor Day to you!
Some good news on the family politics front: my narcissistic SIL (committed Trumper) actually agreed after a discussion with my wife to Google all the insane shite she’s been spouting about Harris drafting my 19yo nephew, how Trump passed the Pact Act, and “the border”. I think my nephew, who’s very impressionable and will often just believe whatever SIL tells him started researching all the stuff they were talking about. So, that’s good. Also, I suspect my brother, who has been largely apolitical most of his life (and who became a trump fan once he moved to the tiny town in rural NY state our mom grew up in) isn’t going to vote this year. Hopefully one less vote for SFB in PA this fall.
MagdaInBlack
I was undecided til she picked the caramel chocolate cake. Now I’m all in on Harris.
Liminal Owl
From Heather Cox Richardson’s post on Substack today:
That was in 1867. The NYT (contrary to what I was told, growing up, and am still being told by normie Democrat family members) has never been a liberal medium.
Chief Oshkosh
@narya: OMG, mint chocolate chip? I think he’s dug one too many neighbor’s car out of the snow.
C’mon, man! Strawberry all the way!
zhena gogolia
@Citizen Scientist: This idea that Biden is about to draft their “boys” to fight in Ukraine is something I’ve also heard as one of their conspiracy theories. A friend heard two guys talking about it — “They passed it at 2:00 this morning!” “My boy is not going to war for them!”
The other one is that Trump is going to eliminate the income tax, which was supposed to be an emergency measure after WWII but the Dems kept it going.
sdhays
@dmsilev: Wait, he’s shitting on the lady who he said is more special than the “suckers and losers” who receive the Medal of Honor?
Hahahahaha!!!!
narya
@dmsilev: Add Creme de Menthe to my Do Not Like list . . . I know I am in the minority on this, but something about mint just does not work for me!
@Chief Oshkosh: I realize, on matters of (food) taste, mileage varies all over the place, so I’ll cut Walz some slack on this. And, yes, strawberry is good, but I still have a 50-year-old memory of homemade ice cream made with fresh peaches.
dmsilev
@sdhays: Trump is, without fail, the scorpion in that old fable. Every time, he stings the frog. It’s his nature.
dmsilev
@narya: Fair enough. As long as there are plenty of flavors for everyone to choose from, we’re good.
jonas
Can these people not even use Google? *rolls eyes
artem1s
@zhena gogolia:
good lord. that’s a well worn anti-government screed since the 80’s at least. Probably older. He’s just repeating John Birch Society’s greatest hits for the deplorables to cheer for. Not going to help them much when it comes to all the added fees that have been tacked on to everything since the Bush family kept cutting federal support to the states
TS
@rikyrah:
And the Post has 6 lines on this (missing out Doug Emhoff) with the following in the campaign “live updates”
Trump renews warning of ‘enemy from within’ the country
Trump says his assassination attempt could have become a mass shooting
Trump aims to drag down Harris as he scrambles to keep up in tight race
It is a small miracle that anyone finds out about Harris/Walz – the MSM is surely working to hide their campaign. I have yet to see a report from a campaign event on the front page of WaPo since the end of the convention.
sdhays
@narya: One of the very very few times I’ve been to a really fancy restaurant, the desert course had garam masala ice cream. It was amazing (everything else was kind of meh and left me hungry). I’ve never seen it again.
Black sesame ice cream is another really special flavor. You can’t really get it here, at least not the good stuff. I’ve tried it at the local Asian grocery stores and it’s been disappointing, but what I had when I was in Asia was delicious.
jonas
Well, projection is a powerful drug…
Geminid
@rikyrah: Doug Emhoff will attend Rep. Bobby Scott’s annual barbecue in Newport News. Scott has represented Virginia’s 3rd Congressional District since 1993, when he became Virginia’s first African American Representative since Reconstruction.
I’m hoping Senator L. Louise Lucas comes over from Portsmouth. She’d liven up the party. Lucas and Scott could have a laugh over her latest plans to torment Governor Youngkin.
TBone
@narya: when my grandparents (both teachers) tutored at Camp Susquehannock every summer, we’d go visit for several weeks and have the run of the camp. One of the caretakers was Old Man Winklebleck, who had a farm thereabouts. He had lost an arm in WWII but had a prosthetic exactly like that of the soldier in The Best Years of Our Lives movie. When we’d visit him on his farm (a privilege not extended to official campers but because my grandparents were his friends) he had made a motorized rig that turned the hand crank on his old school ice cream maker. He told us littles that he put Tiger Lillies (they grew profusely around his back porch and yard) in the ice cream, but it was really made with fresh peaches. What a wonderful 50+ y.o. memory, thanks for reminding me!
oldgold
Yesterday afternoon, sitting drowsily on my dock, in tribute to PETA, no longer drowning worms, but fishing without a hook and fervently following Tim Walz’s wise words, “Minding my own damn business,” I was assailed by an armada of floating fools.
It was a MAGA boat parade. As this honking, flag flying, foul fleet of water MAGATs floated by, I eyeballed each Rear Admiral. Unfortunately, I knew most of these naval nimrods – all white and not too bright sons of the soil mixed with a few insurance salesmen – in short, the usual sorry assed suspects.
The good news is that Trumplethinskin’s nincompoop navy was much smaller than in ‘20.
Salty Sam
O god yes! Eight years old, at my granddad’s farm, peaches picked that morning, my grandma made the custard, and we cranked that old ice-cream maker in a bucket of salted down ice for hours… 62 years ago, and I remember it like it was yesterday!
narya
@sdhays: Now I’m imagining that ice cream with peaches on top of it!
@dmsilev: Honestly, that is one of the things that I love about much-reviled-by-the-right diversity. So many flavors, literally and metaphorically!
Gvg
@suzanne: Yeah, like do they know what résumé’s are for? You edit for each job, and show you are paying attention to what that company is looking for, for that position. Keep to the point, because they are reading many to weed out.
Often there are rules about how long the resume can be. 1 page, 2, no more.
When you rise in skill level, those early jobs just aren’t relevant. And in my case some of them closed and couldn’t give references or proof. Those early jobs were verified by the next employer, and then that one by the next and so on. 20 or 30 years later, they aren’t on your resume.
These people don’t read what they write, or think about it. What kind of world do they live in? How do they get jobs? How come they don’t know so many ordinary things? Is this AI or homeschooling?
narya
@Salty Sam: @TBone: I’m glad others have that same memory! And I have fresh peaches on the counter–no ice cream maker, but peaches are gonna be on today’s menu somehow, maybe in more than one place.
TBone
@oldgold: oh man, I would have loved to toss some anvil-shaped anchors at them! Great storytelling flourishes 😆 with an almost happy ending!
frosty
@rikyrah: (and anyone else) How do you find out where and when the campaign events are? I’d hate to miss one that’s a only day trip away.
BC in Illinois
A Labor Day song from Missouri State Rep, Peter Meredith of St Louis. (And his family.)
If you watch to the very end, you can see one of his daughters say, “That wasn’t very good.”
Edited to add the lyrics: (Brian McNeill of Scotland)
TBone
@narya: I made a peach upside down cake a few weeks ago that was a big hit with hubby. Easy to cheat too if you’re short on time – box of Butter Golden Cake mix, a frying pan filled with melted butter mixed with brown sugar, lay the peach slices in a starburst pattern (cram in as many as possible), pour the cake batter over, and bake till done (till a long toothpick comes out clean).
We had to diet for a week afterwards, but it was worth it 😊
Princess
So 33% of voters approve of Trump. That’s his hard floor. Roughly 46% seem to vote for him — he got that in 16, 20, and in current polls. So that 13% is the key group; the people we want to persuade to stay home. Just a percent would make a huge difference. The Haley voters are in that crowd. Registering new voters and working on our turnout is probably easier though.
TBone
@frosty:
https://events.democrats.org/
The map button is easy or use your zip code
Dorothy A. Winsor
@Chief Oshkosh: I don’t understand the point of fruity desert flavors. Like chocolate-covered strawberries. The chocolate is ruined.
narya
@TBone: Here’s a version that has a sponge cake instead–takes a little more effort, but I was pretty happy w/ the results. (The caramel was a pain, for me, but, much as I love it, caramel is ALWAYS a pain for me. In pastry school some of the chefs said there’s a Thing for every pastry chef with which they struggle, and caramel is definitely a Thing for me.)
Baud
@rikyrah:
Good morning.
Gvg
@narya: I love mint and hate strawberry and what I think is adults know their own taste. It is very tiresome when others try to tell you you’ll change your mind if you just try my favorite fill in the blank. I am 60. I have tried. If I am in the mood, I may try something new again. But I don’t like being told my tastes or stomach are not telling me what they are. Like what you like.
As I get older, it is not just taste. Some things I liked the taste of start upsetting my system. I can’t eat as much sugar. Makes me ill later which starts to affect how I think super sweet tastes. Then there are allergies. My cousin gets migraines from pineapple so she learned not to like the taste.
FastEdD
Happy Labor Day to my union brothers and sisters. My “Trump is a SCAB Vote Harris” shirt arrives next week. I had a great time sitting in with a band at a Labor Day party yesterday. Friendly strippers throwing jello shots at everybody. The FSM approves.
Baud
@dmsilev:
Interesting. They didn’t go with “tries to.” I guess that particular phrase is reserved for Dems.
TBone
@Dorothy A. Winsor: I tend to agree but then some days I just absolutely crave fruit desserts. I made two fruit tarts just yesterday, one peach and one strawberry. Like a gallette, but using frozen puff pastry for convenience. Fruit preserves from local farms. Mmmmm. Breakfast is calling!
TBone
@FastEdD: 😍
satby
And from the BBC, a report today about an obscure bit of history between Ireland and the Choctaw nation that was memorialized in a statue unveiled at the Choctaw Capital Grounds, a companion piece to the Kindred Spirits memorial sculpture in Ireland. Solidarity forever, again.
edited to correct timeline
Baud
On this labor day, I hope labor doesn’t blow it in November.
Cheryl from Maryland
@narya: oh yes!!! One of my great-grandfathers made the wooden buckets for post Civil War era hand cranked ice cream makers at the Richmond Cedarworks (a decently paid adult job, thank you unions). My dad inherited one, and I have found memories of ice cream made with the peaches from the tree in my back yard.
TBone
@narya: that is the exact recipe that inspired me to cheat! 😁 I was gonna do from scratch, but the day got away from me so box mix had to suffice. Also, caramel is indeed a pain the ass, hence the butter brown sugar.
Also: tangy peach glazed pork chops are a good thing!
FastEdD
There is also the controversy about homemade ice cream. It certainly tastes the best, but is using an electric motor to turn the paddle cheating, or does it taste better when it is cranked by hand?
Ramalama
@suzanne: Hey I worked at McDonald’s too – very long ago. Do you have any sense-memories of how to do shizz? I think if I were plopped behind a counter I’d know exactly to handle the fries, how to place orders in the correct (numbered) bags. They had training videos for how to clean a counter. How to tamp down garbage in the ‘dining’ area. How to salt fries. How to pull shakes. I bet Kamala has that sense-memory too.
M31
@Ramalama: the important thing to ask her is if they were still using beef tallow to fry the french fries or if they’d switched to veg oil and ‘beef flavoring’ yet
inquiring minds, etc
BR
For those of you who weren’t up late last night, I compiled a list of Gen Z and Millennial swing state Dem candidates (state senate/house races) who might be worth donating to:
https://secure.actblue.com/donate/youngswingdemcandidates
The idea is that young candidates are likely to be able to get young voters to the polls, and we need young voters in swing states.
narya
@Dorothy A. Winsor: @TBone: I tend to want my chocolate desserts and fruit desserts as separate things. There are a few pairings that work (raspberry, strawberry, and cherry CAN pair with chocolate), but I find that the fruit gets lost in the chocolate or waters it down. Last week I made a chocolate meringue (pavlova) and served it with some chocolate pastry cream and some cherries I’d cooked down, and it mostly worked–I will change a few things if I make it again–but I’ve stopped putting cherries in my brownies because they disappear. Cherry FROSTING on brownies will work, though. I don’t usually like chocolate-covered strawberries because they use large strawberries with little flavor.
TBone
@satby: 💚
JML
@Ramalama: I worked at a knock-off Dairy Queen in high school and I’m pretty confident I could still handle soft-serve, dip cones, etc. and it’s been a long-ass time. But things like that come back fast and I suspect the technology hasn’t advanced that much.
TBone
@narya: I hear that (agree!) and am in awe of your mad skills. Baking came to me only through much practice although I really love to cook. The errors are usually delicious anyway, just ugly 🤣
narya
For those who want a savory peach thing: tomatoes and peaches, diced, with a little basil and a splash of balsamic, maybe some garlic, makes a lovely salsa for fish or chicken. If you’re feeling ambitious, mix it up, let it sit, then STRAIN it, use the strained liquid to deglaze the pan (or just reduce the liquid and add a little butter). Add some caramelized onions and put it on top of the protein and enjoy. (Sweet corn is also a good addition to that mix.)
Layer8Problem
@Gvg: No more of that for me, thank goodness. The lovingly hand-tooled resume crafted for each potential employer, keywords carefully chosen to make the HR software happy. And always sent with the suspicion that half of the ones received by the desired establishment are tossed immediately “to avoid employing unlucky people”; i.e. the David Brent technique from the original The Office”.
Layer8Problem
@FastEdD: Electric motors always leave out the love.
TBone
@FastEdD: America’s Test Kitchen/Cooks Country has the cheat codes using blenders and loaf pans.
https://www.americastestkitchen.com/cookscountry/articles/6055-endless-flavors-of-ice-cream-without-an-ice-cream-maker
I think it doesn’t matter how the crank is turned, homemade is always just gonna be better!
Technique:
https://www.americastestkitchen.com/recipes/11759-salted-caramel-coconut-no-churn-ice-cream
frosty
@TBone:
Thanks, but that’s for volunteer events and I get plenty of emails for those. I’m looking for the places Harris and Walz are going to show up. I tried searching for their schedule and all I got was news reports on where they had been.
TBone
@Layer8Problem: Old Man Winklebleck begs to differ! Although his motor was gas powered.
matt
Grenell spoke with Lis Smith.
matt
@sdhays: Stolen Squalor!
TBone
@matt: 😆
Jertian
In the last day or two, I noticed that Balloon Juice is not loading in Chrome. Firefox still loads fine.
oldgold
Just when you think it could not get any worse, the short-fingered vulgarian spouts this:
“ The way Kamala Harris treated Mike Pence was horrible.”
He is going to put the damn Onion out of business.
Kirk
@narya: add a small pinch of ground cloves to that reduction. Really.
Dorothy A. Winsor
@oldgold: I wonder if he’s confused Pence with Biden.
Miki
@narya: My sister and her husband love this recipe.
I’m jonesing for some peach ice cream (and I do have an an ice cream maker.
TBone
@oldgold: 😆😆😆
Point and mock!
narya
@Kirk: Okay! I bet ginger would work, too . . .
Citizen Scientist
@zhena gogolia: ah, that makes sense. Thanks for filling in the gaps!
narya
@Miki: Oh, I am going to use that for today’s starting point . . .
MomSense
@TBone:
Grilled peach and halloumi kabobs are freaking amazing.
Miki
@TBone: Great source! Thanks for sharing this.
TBone
@narya:
@Miki:
Me too – nice thick chops are defrosting as we speak. Peach preserves, balsamic vinegar, fresh tomatoes, local onions and garlic all in stock at Casa TBone. Ready, set…improvise!
oldgold
An attempt at gallows humor?
TBone
@MomSense: oh YEAH!
Grilling makes everything pop!
TBone
@oldgold: 😆
TBone
@Miki: yours in service,
💙 TBone
I hope you find many joyful companions where you are!
Eunicecycle
@narya: I have peaches on the counter, too! Will soon have them on cereal. Yesterday I made the best peach cobbler I’ve had for a while.
And I am with you on not liking mint chocolate chip ice cream, or really anything mint. I am the only person I know that doesn’t like Thin Mint Girl Scout cookies.
kalakal
@oldgold:
The other day at I saw a MAGA boat parade on the Intercoastal off Clearwater. First one I’ve seen this year and have to say it was pathetic. It was a boat not a parade. One small boat and two sad acts with a flag being laughed at by the jet skiers. Cheered me up no end
Frankensteinbeck
@Ramalama:
I worked at Papa John’s 25 years ago and I guarantee I could do the whole process, including tossing the dough like you weren’t allowed to do, without a pause. Might take me one try to get used to the box folding again. I have paused a couple of times while writing this to do the dough prep motions.
narya
Now you know another one. I try very hard not to yuck other people’s yum, but those make me flinch.
TBone
I blocked all my memories from working at Wendy’s, except for the “cheese product.”
It. Is. Not. Cheese!
TBone
@kalakal: 😊
M31
I have an old hand-crank ice+salt ice cream machine, it’s awesome (but work) lol and it’s a real barrel so have to soak it for a few days beforehand to make sure it doesn’t leak
made some grapefruit sorbet with 35 grapefruits and sugar it was amazing
don’t eat that many grapefruits if you are taking any drugs though
MomSense
Shall we contrast and compare the MVP’s cake clip with JV’s donut shop fail?
TBone
@TBone: great way to use up the last of my block of feta? Crumble as a topping?
narya
@MomSense: Hah! Exactly what I was thinking! And, clearly, her advance team doesn’t hate her and has a damn clue.
frosty
@Eunicecycle: You’re not the only one. Thin mints, mint chocolate chip ice cream, York Peppermint Patties, etc. I don’t like any of them. Mint ruins chocolate! (h/t DAW above)
dmsilev
@MomSense: OK. OK. OK.
geg6
@frosty:
I do know that Harris and Biden will be here in the ‘Burgh for the big Labor Day parade.
frosty
All these memories of working in fast food places! I hesitate to mention my first job because it will make me sound old (not a worry with this crowd!). Oh, and it’s never been on my resume, even the one right after college graduation.
Dishroom at Howard Johnson’s
frosty
@geg6: Where did you find that out? I just checked the campaign website and there’s nothing. How are they going to get people to see them if they don’t tell us? Or maybe it’s secret, like the bus stops at a BBQ place but no one is expecting it.
geg6
@frosty:
I love mint but am not fond of mint chocolate chip ice cream. Not because of the flavor though. I do not like any ice cream with any chunks in it. Andes Candies are the awesome though. I can eat a whole box of them.
arrieve
@sdhays:
I’ve never had black sesame but it sounds like something I would love. I fell in love with saffron ice cream in Iran–ice cream sandwiches during a long drive across the desert were an amazing treat–but you can’t really find it here, and the one time I did, it was just not as good.
geg6
@frosty:
It’s been all over the news here. The Labor Day parade is a big Joe Biden deal around here.
CaseyL
@zhena gogolia:
Um, no:
Cite here.
Eunicecycle
@narya: I was the cookie chairman for my daughters’ troop one time and HALF the orders were for Thin Mints. So we are the odd ones out.
Eunicecycle
@frosty: I think we can start a club, you, Narya and me!
Baud
@CaseyL:
Fun fact: The 16th Amendment was not needed to tax wages and salaries. Congress already had that authority. The amendment was needed to tax capital gains.
E.
@Jertian: I often have to wait for Adam’s post to disappear below the horizon before any balloon-juice will open for me on my older iPad. It cannot seem to handle all the twitter links.
lowtechcyclist
@TBone:
My wife found guavas, of all things, in one of our local MD supermarkets the other day. (I think this is the first time we’ve found any outside of Florida, where she grew up.) So this morning we had guava spread on toast. It was delicious!
PatrickG
@satby:
That ad was great but it quoted trump as saying wounded veterans make him feel “queasy”. I don’t think it’s plausible that word is in his vocabulary so awarding four pinocc— ah fuck it, let’s just go with great ad
TBone
@frosty:.be proud! HoJo’s was a childhood staple for us and even Jacques Pepin worked for them!
Jertian
@E.: So its probably Elmo’s fault…
TBone
@lowtechcyclist: yum!!!
trnc
@Steve LaBonne:
I put my money on a southern democrat who hasn’t moved on from 1962.
Aziz, light!
About the event for Vietnamese-Americans:
My wife’s cousin has been married 40 years to a woman from South Vietnam, and we socialize with her large extended family here in deep blue Portland. The elders fled the south in the 1970s. They are all Republicans, prompting me to view the Vietnamese community in the US as a conservative subset of Asian Americans as a whole. Like the Cubans in Florida, their anti-communist zeal and bitter memories of the before times have long shaped their politics. Perhaps this is finally changing with the times.
3Sice
@Dorothy A. Winsor:
They showed him the 2020 VP debate for prep, and his takeaway was “black lady scary”.
He’s a rotten racist to his core, and the cognitive decline has become a significant hindrance to the 2024 hate tour. It manifests increasingly as fear and confusion rather the anger his shitwit followers demand.
schrodingers_cat
@arrieve: Saffron + pistachio kulfi ( a dense icecream from India made of heavy cream and condensed milk) is to die for. You get a reasonably good iteration at the indian stores here
lowtechcyclist
@oldgold:
:D
Dorothy A. Winsor
@oldgold: I see what you did.
TS
@Jertian:
I’ve had problems with both. Deleted my BJ cookies in chrome and it worked again but still has problems loading at random times
narya
I found some galette dough in the freezer, so I think tonight’s dinner is going to include a tomato tart (with fresh mozzarella), chicken breasts with balsamic peaches, and a peach tart for dessert. I’ll probably change several elements before dinner actually hits the table, but that’s the current plan, which will use up the chicken breasts and galette dough as well as the tomatoes from this week’s farm share that are a little bruised. Thanks for all of the suggestions!
Steve LaBonne
Josh Marshall ponders the remarkable improvement of Harris’s favorability ratings.
sdhays
@arrieve: That sounds amazing!
TBone
@frosty: you got me nostalgic
https://www.westword.com/restaurants/the-most-famous-line-cook-at-hojos-jacques-pepin-5770968
From Jacques’ NYT article:
Harrison Wesley
@TBone: Y’mean it’s more like “pasteurized processed cheese food?” WTF that is.
NotMax
@frosty
SolidarityFried Clams forever!lowtechcyclist
@Baud:
Well I learned something new today!
Given that, I’m surprised that the GOP isn’t yet talking up having it repealed.
Baud
@lowtechcyclist:
IIRC, repealing the 16th was big with the GOP in the 90s.
TBone
@Harrison Wesley: 👍🤮
TBone
@NotMax: 🤣
Baud
@Harrison Wesley:
I only eat raw cheese food.
lowtechcyclist
@narya:
Where do you live? I’ll be right over!
schrodingers_cat
I am going through the AP US history syllabus and it is amazing how much the regional differences from the earliest colonial days still persist. Also finding the parallels between what the British did in the US and India in similar timeframes fascinating
Its an attempt to educate myself about the specifics, I am aware of the general outline. The revolutionary era and the civil war war but there are gaps in my knowledge.
schrodingers_cat
@narya: Do share the recipe for the tomato tart, my garden is overflowing with 4 varieties of tomatoes.
Betty
@oldgold: But they just got re-started under new ownership. Hope they succeed wildly.
Citizen Alan
@FastEdD: Since 9yo Citizen Alan was the one who had to crank the hand-cranked ice cream machine, to me, hand-cranked just tasted like pain. It didn’t help that my parents were never interested in any flavors other than sickly-sweet vanilla.
Harrison Wesley
@Baud: Harvested from cheese right there in the field!
Suzanne
@Ramalama:
I think I could do legit everything today. I probably don’t remember the cleaning regimen for each machine. I usually worked in the register and drive-thru, less often in the grill.
I was excellent at the ice cream cones. Perfect every time.
Ken
Recent events prompted me to dig out my résumé and see what high-school jobs I’ve been leaving off. There’s a good half-dozen, including a couple I had during college. No fast food or retail, though, and only two that involved any large amount of physical work.
That also reminded me that Labor Day is largely ignored by large sectors of the economy, but “government, financial services, and anyone with a decent union day” is a bit of a mouthful. It’s also why I don’t go shopping or eat at restaurants on this day.
Bex
@narya: The cake and the ice cream videos are master classes in how to do retail politics. Neither Vance nor Trump nor DeSantis (remember him?) could pull that off.
TBone
@M31: that sounds really great. Some days I crave citrus and keep a stash of real lime popsicles in the freezer for emergencies. My step-grandma, “Aunt” Libby (married to “Uncle” Sam) served Fresca soda to me every time I spent sick days at her house in my step dad’s former bed, maybe that got me addicted to grapefruit! She also made the best cinnamon toast on the planet, I can’t even duplicate it (her German family must have had some kind of secret addition). Mom’s parents served us a fresh grapefruit half every single morning, which grandma had carefully sectioned ahead of time.
Harrison Wesley
@schrodingers_cat: I just read a very favorable review of a book by Alan Taylor, a historian at U. of Va. I’d never heard of him before, but he has a bunch of books out on American history that look really fascinating.
Harrison Wesley
@Bex: Yeah, but sit White Boots down anywhere near a pudding cup and see what happens…..
BR
@Aziz, light!:
Here in SoCal, there was definitely a huge shift towards Trump in the Vietnamese-American community in 2016 and then a slight shift away from him in 2020. I don’t know if the move away from him has continued or not.
schrodingers_cat
@Harrison Wesley: Right now I am using the AP textbook and YT videos. I listen to them when I am doing my art work at the end of the day. Its nice and relaxing. Also its a quick walkthrough. Then I will go back to the periods I want to learn more about.
Thanks for the recommendation
In India in school we just learned about the revolution, the civil war and the US role in the world wars. That was pretty much it.
Thor Heyerdahl
@satby: Leonard Cohen’s 1970 rendition of “Solidarity Forever” here
Erin
@Eunicecycle: And they come in those convenient single-serving tubes!
Another Scott
ICYMI, Robyn Pennacchia at Wonkette:
Click on over and read the whole thing. But then come back!!
Happy Labor Day!!
Cheers,
Scott.
Soprano2
@Baud: They rarely use “tried to” or “trys” when they talk about Republicans. They use it a lot when they talk about Democrats. I’m not sure they realize they do that. I think it’s part of their historic belief that R’s are “strong ” and D’s are “weak”. I heard Carville on Bill Maher’s show saying he thinks the Democratic Party has become too feminine. 🙄🙄🙄🙄😬
TBone
Ice cream memories from Philly area: Breyers used to be sooooo good. The best! Philly style ice cream, no air pumped into it, nothing artificial.
Peppermint Candy ice cream (pink candy chunks!), Butter Brickle (butterscotch candy chunks!) are two flavors I just can’t find anywhere, and Breyers just doesn’t cut it at all anymore…
One place in Maine made good peppermint candy ice cream though. It’s too long to drive…
TBone
@Soprano2: I think they do it on purpose. 😡
karen marie
@narya: You can still make a good no-churn ice cream with peaches. This year I been keeping it simple. I got a pack of 100 little disposable ice pop thingies. I mix plain yogurt and honey with a bit of fresh blueberry or strawberry sauce or chopped Italian wild cherries in syrup. So good! Past years I’ve made coffee and vanilla ice cream but it can be a struggle to remember to eat it fast enough. Arizona is not a great place for ice cream. It’s too hot to eat outside, and AC makes me not want ice cream.
TBone
@schrodingers_cat: it is important to salt and drain the tomato slices to get rid of extra liquid first. Save the juice though!
I saw one made on TV last week but will defer to Narya chef skills for recipe.
zhena gogolia
@CaseyL: I know that. I’m speaking about crazy conspiracy theories that are going around.
narya
@schrodingers_cat: Go here and search for “tomato tart.” Three pop up for me–I’ll probably do a combo of the first and third one, because I have galette dough (I also have some puff pastry, but not enough to do that tart). I’ve found her recipes to be quite reliable and not particularly fussy.
Jeffro
that Post piece is helpful in reminding folks that trumpov has never been popular, and in fact left office in disgrace with a 31% approval rating.
also helpful in terms of a thought experiment: he’s ALREADY been trying to ‘drag down’ VP Harris, and she’s only gotten more popular. are the next 70 days of the trump slime machine more likely to a) drag down her numbers, or b) improve her numbers?
(and: will watching the slime machine in action drop trump’s own numbers even further?)
Hungry Joe
This is going to sound really odd to anyone younger than 65:
Watching Harris and Walz being so NORMAL reminds me of how I felt the day after Nixon resigned. One of the stories told of the new President, Gerald Ford, getting up and making himself some toast. The guy makes toast! It was impossible to imagine Richard Nixon doing such a thing. I was, and remained, no fan of Ford, but it was such a relief to know that, finally, a normal human being was President of the United States.
Try to imagine Trump or Vance casually, genially handing out ice cream cones. I can do it, but it gives me the creeps.
piratedan
its Labor Day weekend here in the US, so take a moment to think about those people who actually died making this happen. Perhaps, at night, while you relax with a quality beverage, watch a film that deals with the struggle to get value for one’s work. my choice, Matewan. Your choices are welcome
hueyplong
@piratedan: It’s Matewan here, too.
Matt McIrvin
@TBone: A lot of Breyers’ current flavors aren’t even ice cream, I’m pretty sure–they’re some kind of ice milk.
I feel like a snob when it comes to ice cream because the local New England ice-cream scene is like nothing you can get from a big manufacturer. There are two stands within a short distance from me, Mad Maggie’s in North Andover and Carter’s in Haverhill, that just offer a vastly superior product they make themselves. There’s a local brand called Richardson’s that’s pretty good–you can get their stuff at Butcher Boy.
I think Mad Maggie’s black raspberry chip is the best ice cream I’ve ever had, bar none, though I do like to get other flavors sometimes for variety.
MagdaInBlack
@TBone:I admit I’m old, but I thought I remembered Breyers being better. They used to have a peach that was pretty decent. But the last time I tried Breyers it was like frozen Cool Whip.
@Matt McIrvin: Yes, about the Breyers.
narya
This, right here, is the whole damn ballgame. Every single thing for both of them is weirdly transactional and self-serving, instead of other-serving. On top of that, the right-wingers have made every single human interaction into some kind of weird trope (remember when they hated on Joe for eating ice cream?), and most of those tropes have white supremacy and/or misogyny at the core. Part of the appeal of Harris and Walz is exactly that normal stuff that just ignores the ginned-up cultural-war stuff. It’s a relief.
narya
@piratedan: @hueyplong: me three, on Matewan. Though, really, nearly anything by Sayles–movie or book–will do it. Even Return of the Secaucus Seven has some class aspects to it (the hosts are high school teachers, IIRC). See, e.g., Union Dues, his second novel, and some of the short stories in The Anarchists’ Convention.
Barbara
@TBone:
@MagdaInBlack:
I think Breyers decided that it didn’t want to compete with “premium” ice cream brands (Ben & Jerry’s, Haagen Dazs), which, in my view, often have the texture of frozen butter but with added sugar and flavor ingredients. On the other hand, Breyers kind of went so far in the other direction it doesn’t technically make “ice cream” anymore as defined by federal regulatory formulations. The brand Tillamook, which I believe started in Oregon, reminds me a lot of what Breyers used to be like. Edy’s is also similar.
kalakal
@Eunicecycle: You are not alone. I have an almost total non sweet tooth.
Savoury things on the other hand…
Phylllis
@TBone: His memoir, The Apprentice, details his time with HoJo’s. It’s also a delightful, charming read.
Matt McIrvin
@Hungry Joe: Trump would have that weird rictus on his face and the cones would be half-melted Mickey D’s soft serve. And he’d have to pose with the cones giving a thumbs up.
Matt McIrvin
@Barbara: Tillamook isn’t bad, for stuff you can get at a big chain supermarket.
CaseyL
@Suzanne:
You asked a question about my kitty Oscar in one of last night’s threads. Since I’m not sure you’ll see my reply there, I’m posting it here as well:
Nothing happened to Oscar except age (he’s 16). He developed hyperthyroidism – an overactive thyroid, due to a tumor – which is not unusual in older cats. Hyperthyroidism damages the heart, so it’s not something to ignore.
The prescribed medication hasn’t brought his thyroid levels down enough, so the next step is to zap the thyroid with a radioactive isotope I-131. It’s supposed to kill any abnormal tissue and leave normal thyroid tissue alone.
Depending on how much normal thyroid remains, Oscar might develop hypothyroidism, which is the opposite of hyperthyroidism: not enough thyroid enzyme. He may need a different medication to being his thyroid levels UP.
Harrison Wesley
@Hungry Joe: Gerald Ford made toast. J. D. Vance will make his bed….so to speak.
narya
@piratedan: @hueyplong: And also too: Baby, It’s You has all KINDS of class commentary in it (not to mention Springsteen in the score).
Eunicecycle
@Erin: yes they do!
JWR
First job for me was a paper route, followed by a few gardening jobs, and the absolute worst job ever, which was bending Hula Hoops at Wham-O. I especially hated bending the smallest size, (they had 3 sizes), which was blister city! Then a few temp agency maintenance jobs before landing my favorite gig of all as a machinist.
RSA
It’s weird how Trump and Vance can’t seem to figure out how immigrant Melania Trump and accomplished Indian-American Usha Vance might help their campaign.
Miki
@Phylllis: It was also great to listen to, although the reader isn’t Jacques Pepin.
frosty
@schrodingers_cat: Those regional differences go back to the English Civil War between the Roundheads and Cavaliers. When you get a chance you should read Albion’s Seed.
cain
@suzanne: I worked McDonalds a summer job as well. It’s not in my job history. Hell I can’t even remember which summer it was.
Most people don’t put their fast food experience on their resume if it isn’t aligned with their career. This is the strangest attack angle because the majority of us don’t put our fast food.
Eunicecycle
@cain: I think the angle they’re going for is “She lied!” because I saw that some news outlet (Fox?) called McDonald’s headquarters, who said they had no record she worked there. Of course she probably worked for a franchisee and they keep their own records so it didn’t prove anything.
Baud
@cain:
Trump got his start with birtherism. It worked for him. He wants it to work again.
TBone
I like to do this at the grocery store, it can be contagious 🤣🤩🎶
https://youtu.be/B1gPw35NNNg
Partay!
schrodingers_cat
@Baud: Yep racists just want a plausible excuse to vote for the Orange Ogre.
schrodingers_cat
OT: In my perusal of AP US History I learned that it was a NYT reporter who coined the term Manifest Destiny. So they have been shitty for a long long… time.
How they have managed to fool people into thinking that they are liberal is beyond me. Its white supremacy with a thesaurus.
schrodingers_cat
@frosty: My knowledge of British history begins and ends with their entanglement with the US and India.
zhena gogolia
@Eunicecycle: OMFG. Of course we need documentation that she worked at McDonald’s before we entrust her with the nuclear codes!
lowtechcyclist
@Baud:
I missed that, but then I’ve never been a TV-watcher, and I had to rely on the Bristol (VA/TN) Herald-Courier for news. Lord knows there was so much other quasi-libertarian stuff that they were pushing after they took Congress in 1994 that it would have been easy to miss in the onslaught.
Kathleen
Random TCM Programming Note: Starting this Friday at 8PM Eastern TCM will begin screening “Most Significant Political Films of All Time” which includes discussions of the film with some very cool (and not so) people. Film schedule/presenters at this link:
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/tcm-screening-most-significant-political-films-1235982453/
cain
@Aziz, light!:
I’ve noticed a general trend with Republican voters which is that they are all embittered by the good times from old days. It wasn’t _that_ great but as we get older we filter out the bad stuff. I mean, it’s funny how some of the older women don’t seem to recall that they had to get their husband’s permission to get a credit card and so on.
In any case, the folks coming from ex-communist countries would feel bad about how it was great before. But there was a reason there was a revolution and the govt turned communist. Something to think about.
TBone
@narya: I just rememberrd: dried fruit is ok with/dipped in chocolate for me. Raisins, dried cranberry, dried pineapple slices. I had some chocolate clusters someone made with dried cranberries and nuts and they were really good.
Just throwing it out there!
Salty Sam
Nominated!
cain
@TBone:
Big Chain restaurants have been renting space in all the iconic areas around the world. I’m surprised we don’t yet have a starbucks inside the Taj Mahal or the Red Fort. We certainly have them in some very ancient buildings in western europe.
schrodingers_cat
@schrodingers_cat: Okay I checked his Wikipedia entry, it doesn’t say anything about his being a NYT reporter. So IDK. More digging needed.
cain
@MagdaInBlack: They have been MBA’ified!
BellyCat
@TBone: No love yet for Teaberry ice cream?!?! (YUM!)
zhena gogolia
@Salty Sam: Seconded!
Barbara
@Matt McIrvin: I graduated a long time ago from being an ice cream snob, but even with my reasonably pedestrian standards I find Breyers to be close to inedible. Like frozen marshmallow goo.
hueyplong
@narya: Sayles’ Eight Men Out is easily my favorite sports movie.
Geminid
There is an interesting “sosyal medya” kerfluffle going on in Turkiye. Two days ago, pictures from the Turkish military academies’ graduation ceremonies circulated widely. They showed President Erdogan presenting diplomas to the top graduates of the Air Force, Navy and Army schools. Erdogan wore his usual dead pan expression, and the three new Second Lieutentents stared intensely at the camera like they were trying to drill holes in it.
This caught a lot of attention, because for the first time the top three graduates were women. Turkiye has its share of misogynists, and they posted derisive comments about the new Second Lieutenants. But Turkiye has more than its share of nationalists and they were outraged by the disrespect. So now the nationalists are calling for prosecutions under a law that criminalizes attacks upon the honor of the Turkish Armed Forces. They may get them too.
TBone
@Matt McIrvin: oh yeah baby! New England ice cream is dabomb! We’ve got a couple great local roadside joints that make their own here, but New England simply outdoes us in Pennsyltucky in that regard.
CaseyL
@Kathleen:
Bill Maher discussing Reds?
Maureen Dowd discussing Three Days of the Condor?
Fuck no. Why choose them, FFS?
ETA: I might have been interested otherwise, but those choices tell me TCM isn’t looking for particularly insightful talk.
narya
@hueyplong: He’s really an icon for me. I had read his first two novels while in high school/college, then eagerly awaited Secaucus Seven. I’ve seen or read a lot of his stuff (I know I’ve missed some movies and a book or two). He also wrote a book about making Matewan (Thinking in Pictures) that I used to have and highly recommend.
TBone
@Phyllis!
I have his cookbook and now I’ll get that from the library this week when I return my overdue books (on purpose, to “donate” to) the library. Thank you for the recommendation, right up my alley!
JPL
@zhena gogolia: I hope that she saved her first pay stub, because they will demand nothing less.
Harrison Wesley
Unlike Lying Commie Kamala, your President – Donald J. Trump – has no need to fluff his service to America at McDonald’s. The ketchup-stained walls of Mar-a-Lago are witness to his constant fight for your freedom…..
Hungry Joe
@hueyplong: “Bang the Drum Slowly” is mine. Great book, too — a sequel to “The Southpaw.” It was a four-book series, the last being “It Looked Like For Ever,” told, as always, by the ‘50s pitching star Henry Wiggen, now ending his career as a reliever in the ‘70s. Written by Mark Harris. I bet I’ve read ‘em all four or five times.
scav
@cain: I’ve rather wondered if the current crop of trad wives have gleefully ditched their independent credit ratings in the pursuit of authenticity. Also the classic 1950s resort to barbiturates to make it through the housewife lifestyle.
TBone
@BellyCat: yes, but I wasn’t sure anyone would believe that is a thing! 🤣
Suzanne
@CaseyL: Wow, I had no idea that could happen to cats! Good luck to Oscar and you!
Hungry Joe
@hueyplong: There’s a two- or three-second scene in “Eight Men Out” in which Joe Jackson is sliding into third base safely, as the third baseman — seen from behind — takes the throw. That third baseman was my best friend in elementary school. He played a lot of adult hardball, and somehow got the one-day gig on Sayles’ movie.
TBone
@Kathleen: I am all in on that action! I don’t care if a few out of the many important contributors are not up to par – it’s the historical and entertaining movies (what they can tell us) that is of interest!
Ruckus
@Layer8Problem:
MMMMMMM mint chocolate chip Klondike bars, my favorite!
Culture? I’m not sure I’ve got any of that…….
Geminid
@Hungry Joe: There was a good baseball story yesterday. The Nationals called up 26 year-old Darrin Baker from their minor league system. Baker got a pinch-hit single in the 9th inning, so now Dusty Baker’s son is batting 1.000 in his Major League career.
TBone
@JWR: coolest vintage job award winner 🏆
ThatLeftTurnInABQ
@schrodingers_cat:
David Hackett Fischer wrote an entire book Albion’s Seed about this. The continuities are impressive and perhaps even a bit frightening in their implications: that in some very important ways our culture has not changed much in the span of several hundred years, meaning that the past can be a prison from which we struggle to escape.
I’d go further and trace the Red vs. Blue divide in contemporary American culture back thru the English Civil War of the 1640s and all the way back to the partial and incomplete character of the British Reformation, which left deep cultural divides in the British isles at least partly along sectarian lines, divides which were then embroidered by the uneven influence of urban & mercantile culture coming from the Netherlands (and the Channel & North Sea coast of NW Europe more generally speaking) in a fashion which was regionally selective and sensitive to levels of urbanization and involvement in ship-borne trade.
It has been city vs. country for 500+ years now, in Anglo-American political culture, and not a lot has changed since the days of Cromwell.
Salty Sam
Salty Spouse and I lived in the boatyard in Salem MA, restoring our sailboat in the summers of ‘18 and ‘19 (I’m from Texas, no way I’m living through a North Shore winter). We were blown away by all the great local neighborhood creameries- closest thing we have in Texas is DQ 😢
TBone
@Ruckus: a hubby fave too
trollhattan
@Hungry Joe:
Put me down for either Slap Shot or Breaking Away. (Two-word title not part of my criteria.)
TBone
@Salty Sam: ouch, you need the homemade! Those summers you had sound magical 💜
wjca
And a third! Thin mint chocolates– yech!
TBone
A local, new Mennonite (or Amish) converted barn and drive up window ice creamery opened here last year on a back road – they have runner-up status to New England. I just now remembered they exist so thank you all! 💖 I’d almost forgotten where to get the best pumpkin pie cheesecake ice cream cone EVAH !
lowtechcyclist
@hueyplong:
Mine’s still Bull Durham, even if the female lead isn’t exactly one of our favorite people these days.
Kathleen
@CaseyL: I agree. Dowd and Maher are definite thumbs down. My plan is to pick and choose both the movies and the presenters. Can’t wait to see Face In The Crowd discussed. One of my all time favorite movies.
wjca
Perhaps bless them with clips of Trump talking about getting paid by communist China. General Vietnamese low opinion of China generally is a plus.
Pink Tie
@satby: We sang a LOT of labor songs in my Houston UU church yesterday, including that one! Also Woody Guthrie, the Little Red Songbook, Casey Jones the Union Scab, Which Side are You On, We Just Come to Work Here, Banks are Made of Marble. And our minister asked for a show of hands: who is or was a member of a labor union. It was honestly pretty inspiring and cool, especially for Texas, where unions account for a tiny fraction of the state’s huge workforce. The call to action was to start organizing if your workplace has no union, and if you’re a boss, don’t get in the way of people who need to organize.
Kathleen
@Geminid: Did you see the video where Dusty’s son got to give his dad the lineup card? It was so cool. I’m too lazy to research the link on Xeet.
Kathleen
@TBone: I agree.
catclub
… and french fries died!”
Pink Tie
@Geminid: Wish I were back home for that! Bobby Scott used to visit my public schools!
wjca
Also, IIRC, in the 60s. Seems like a recurring theme.
hueyplong
@Kathleen: A couple of months ago Spike Lee introduced A Face in the Crowd on TCM.
I couldn’t watch the movie while Trump was president, but I enjoyed it again the night Lee introduced it.
Sister Golden Bear
@lowtechcyclist: This is why DougJ drinks. /s
He used to have a sweet gig mocking the FTFNYT, but the
woke mobFTFNYT have made it impossible to write satire anymore.narya
@lowtechcyclist: Yeah, me too, for sports movies. Here’s a factoid for you: I stumbled across the original screenplay at one point, and IIRC Sarandon’s character had at least one (I think two) abortions in her past. I find that in general I can (at least sometimes) overlook politics with which I disagree in an artist, but not abusive behavior.
CaseyL
@Suzanne:
Thank you!
Geminid
@Kathleen: I missed that. There is a famous picture of Darrin Baker when he was a three year old bat boy for the team his father managed (Dusty was starting him young). Darrin had wandered near home plate just as a base runner was about to collide with the catcher. The first baseman pulled Darrin out of the way.
hueyplong
@narya: Pull up a picture of Ring Lardner, Jr., the sportswriter Sayles plays in Eight Men Out. They look like twins.
Geminid
@Pink Tie: Bobby Scott’s mother taught chemistry in Newport News schools. His father was a surgeon.
wjca
Somehow my jobs hauling trash and washing dishes** never appeared on my IT-oriented resume. Also not on my LinkedIn entry, which is far less space constrained.
** Hey, those jobs mattered! They helped put me thru college.
Baud
@wjca:
“Sorry, wjca. You’re highly qualified, but we were looking for someone with trash hauling experience.”
wjca
Has he demanded to see her birth certificate yet? (After all, unlike Harris’ parents, Obama’s mother was a natural born American.) Maybe he’s saving that for the debate….
Ramalama
@Frankensteinbeck: You weren’t allowed to toss the dough? What did they want you to do…stretch it?
Kathleen
@Geminid: I saw that video also! Love how the player just bent down and scooped him up without missing a beat! That was awesome!
E.
@Harrison Wesley: His American Colonies is really, really good, and the audiobook is excellent as well. But with the physical book you get the “Further Reading/Bibliography” which is worth the price of admission if you ask me.
If like me the last time you learned about this period was forty years ago, you are in for a shock in how much has changed in what we view as “history” worth studying and passing on to college kids and the general public. And it’s a hell of an improvement, too.
Kathleen
@Pink Tie: Some of my favorite labor songs are “Pastures of Plenty” and “Deportee”, both composed by Woody Guthrie. I was a folk music freak and geek in my high school years (when hootenannies ruled) and performed at venues all over St Paul and Minneapolis, including the Minnesota State “Teen” Fair.) The pics of the Walz family at the fair are bringing back memories.
JWR
@TBone:
Gee, thanks. ;) but the words “coolest vintage job” may work in the imagination, and it was kinda cool seeing all these toys, from Hula Hoops to Slip ‘n’ Slides to the whole array of Frisbees in various states of manufacture, but out here in the real world, it was brutal manual labor. Just think of that the next time you go Hula Hooping! ;)
Ramalama
@M31: I’m guessing it was the former since beef tallow was not ever mentioned negatively while I was growing up. My father brought a man from work to our home so we children could meet an actual vegetarian. We pelted him with questions about What He Ate. I seem to recall asking him about McDonalds since I was obsessed with fast food, and I think he mentioned french fries and the cherry pie.
@Suzanne: I started out as a hostess (red polyester uniform) who basically cleaned up after people in the dining section, and gave parties to little kids with a special McDonald’s cake that was … SO DELICIOUS. I later moved up to working behind the counter (wearing lime green polyester). My training, therefore, was better than yours, nah nah.
Kathleen
@hueyplong: I missed the discussion but managed to rewatch the movie. It’s amazing how relevant it still is, though sadly a live mic Patricia Neal moment wouldn’t matter today.
Wanderer
@TBone: Great resource, thank you.
wjca
Whew! Narrow escape.
At my age, definitely not interested in any job that requires trash hauling. (Maybe why they didn’t mention that on the job description….)
Soprano2
@Ruckus: I love those too although my favorite Klondike bar is Heath bar. Mmmmm, toffee……
JeffH
@Geminid: That was in the 2002 World Series. Resulted in a minimum age for bat kids on the field during games.
glc
@Another Scott:
Well, we’re well past Labor Day, admittedly, but not by 5 years.
Oops there’s a cloud, going to go shout at it. Carry on all.
Ruckus
@Hungry Joe:
Try to imagine Trump or Vance casually, genially handing out ice cream cones. I can do it, but it gives me the creeps.
They would have to be taught how to do that. And even then if they handed me one I’d have to throw it away, because I couldn’t eat anything they’d been in the same room with. Speaking of which, if either of them walked into a room, I’d have to leave, as they seem to be 2 of the worst humans and the stench must be over powering. Rather sit down with Vlad. And I’m not sitting down with him either.
The list of things that I have more respect for than SFB or JD is long.
Weftage
@Geminid:
I’m always fascinated by which prejudicial factor turns out to be the most important in a given situation. For trumpers, is it worse that Kamala Harris is female, or that she’s not white?
May those new Turkish officers thrive and prosper, and hopefully help turn Turkiye in a better direction.
Salty Sam
I guess I misspoke a bit- here in Austin we have a fine ice-cream vendor in Amy’s. Quite a few outlets, but all handmade in a local commissary. But still, my heart longs for those roadside creameries in MA!
It was quite special- we didn’t know what to expect, coming up from Deep South TX, but I loved every minute of it, made some very good friends, and consider myself an honorary Masshole now.
lashonharangue
@JeffH: I remember that series. I was listening to game six on the radio while camping in Yosemite. 8 outs away from Giants winning the series. When they lost that game I knew that the Angels would take the series.
M31
@Ramalama: the ironic thing is that they probably switched from beef tallow to some kind of hydrogenated shortening-type oil, which turns out to be worse for you than good old saturated animal fat oops
best quote on the subject was by Arthur Bryant, the KC barbecue king, asked why they used lard in their fryers and he said “when you do a job, you do a job”
lol
(as reported by Jane and Michael Stern, as I recall)
M31
@hueyplong:
it’s uncanny just how much Sayles looks like Lardner
I always wondered if that’s why he made the movie, lol.
Hungry Joe
Ring Lardner was one hell of a writer. His short-story collection “Roundup” is an American classic. Includes “Alibi Ike,” a hilarious baseball tale, and “The Golden Honeymoon,” also hilarious — and one of my all-time faves
Geminid
@Weftage: There was a similar contoversy this winter over Turkiye’s women’s volleyball team. They had just won the European championship behind the fierce play of strikers Ebrar Karakurt and Melissa Vargas. Both women are openly Lesbian and some conservative politicians and preachers said they were a disgrace to the nation. The bigots were drowned out by a torrent of patriotic fans telling them to sit down and STFU.
Turkiye seems to be 30 years behind the US on LGBTQ issues, but Turkish women won the right to vote in 1934 and have served in the armed forces ever since, including as fighter pilots. These were the last of Kemal Ataturk’s major reforms intended to create a modern society, and Turks take great pride in them.
Origuy
@BC in Illinois: I saw Brian MacNeill perform that song in a small theater in Campbell, California. Several people who had been getting into the other songs did not join in the chorus for “Join the union”.
Soprano2
This thread reminded me to make the blackberry pie I’ve been saving berries for. I’ll probably throw in some red raspberries because I had a bumper crop of them this year. The blackberries are thawing now.
I got up early and went to a Jazzercize class (they only have one on a holiday) then we went to breakfast. Now I’m sleeping on and off on the couch with hubby and our new kitty, who was having a dream a little while ago. She’s lying on the top of the couch beside me.
brantl
MAN, votevets curb-stomped him. I hope they keep that up until the election. Corporal Bone-Spurs..
Ramalama
@M31: Wow, I love it! I won’t cook in lard at home but on the road, even if I want a non-meat item (ie french fries), I do not look into what the vegetable is cooked in.
I long for good deep fry of something. Here in Quebec, most of the frites are cooked in sub-par oil that’s (sometimes?) not hot enough. Or it’s old. Or the type of potato, not sure. I just mourn good fries. Yadda Yadda Poutine, can’t hear you.
M31
@Ramalama: oh come on Quebec, get with it, low temp oil is a crime, and while I kind of like good Poutine (good gravy is the key and that’s not easy) I also think that poutine is a bit like a joke that got out of hand lol though the fact that Putin’s name in French is Poutine is extremely amusing
I lived in Montreal for a few years and there was this smallish chain called “Frites Alor” (lol) that was rumored to use horse fat, but I actually kind of doubt it
fries were great though, though that was a long time ago and who knows if it’s still good
thruppence
@Ramalama: Had a local brewpub that made their fries with duck fat. Oh. My. Clogged arteries. God. They were good. I keep looking at menus but don’t expect to see them again.
Princess
@narya: Baby it’s You is an all-time favourite. I took my little sister to see it when I was a teenager. She later worked on a different Sayles film (City of Hope) which also starred Vincent Spano. She was doing sets but had a brief part as an extra and is 14 feet tall for a brief moment in one scene.
A woman from anywhere (formerly Mohagan)
@Hungry Joe: I remember it was English muffins, but your point remains absolutely true.
MomSense
@trollhattan:
Breaking Away is one of my favorite movies.
Ruckus
@BR:
I imagine there is/will be. SFB is becoming more and more unhinged daily. He wants what he wants and has zero idea why he can’t get that. In regards to the election, I have zero idea how to sell to people that are predisposed to him, the concept that he is full of that which comes out the large exit port of every mammal on the planet. Animals that walk on 2 feet call the room used in the removal a bathroom or restroom. Back to the subject. SFB is losing it because he can’t get his way because he’s losing it. It’s a vicious circle that not everyone goes through, usually only insane assholes. And he is for sure one of those. The worst thing to happen was he was elected president – which formulated in his POS mind that he was above everyone else on the planet, while the truth is that winos and bums who live on the street are far, far often, better humans than he is. His mind turns everything he does and says into proving – only to him, that he is the greatest person alive, all the while, he continues to prove to most everyone else that he’s lower on the scale of life than the last cockroach squashed with a shoe.
A woman from anywhere (formerly Mohagan)
@frosty: Another vote for Albion’s Seed. Fascinating to see the “folkways” transferred from different regions of England. One fun fact I remember is that Harvard had been open 100 years + before a man with the first name of “Andrew” was enrolled. Andrew is a Scots name, and Harvard was a NE puritan institution. Lots of Williams, Johns, etc.
A woman from anywhere (formerly Mohagan)
@Barbara: In Fort Bragg CA there is an ice cream place called Cowlick’s that makes wonderful ice cream. Black Raspberry Chocolate Chunk is the best, but the seasonal Candy Cap Mushroom flavor is legendary.
Pink Tie
@Ramalama: My first job as a teenager (that wasn’t a lifeguard job at an apartment pool) was… as a Hooters waitress at the restaurant in Denbigh/Newport News, down the road from the Ft. Eustis Army base. Talk about a group of workers who needed the ability to organize! The best I can say about the managers was that if customers got *really* out of hand with sexual comments, they would be warned and the manager would finish taking care of them. There was a degree of solidarity among the waitstaff, though — we were all friendly and helped each other, and allowed everyone to wait on their regulars even if it was your turn to get a table. That job wasn’t even the most hostile or abusive work environment I ever experienced, though, perhaps because the sexual overtones were right out there. It’s been a while since I’ve worked in bars or restaurants, but all of them had the expectation that managers and customers could treat female waitstaff terribly, steal tips, grope us, and play little “jokes” like locking me in a walk-in refrigerator or flashing their genitals. Blow cigarette smoke at us, act unreasonable about their orders, cause full trays of drinks to spill on us and fail to apologize (many times), let their kids create crumby, wet messes on tables and floors. There was no time in those years that I could have joined a union or helped to organize one, and I’m not sure there is today, given how much pushback there is from huge employers. The smaller places aren’t required to provide any benefits or allow unions to form. I guess I could have chosen something else to do for money, but you can make a lot of cash if you’re willing to deal with certain things. Sigh….
Ruckus
@satby:
That is amazing. And I’d never heard about the reason – that Ireland and the Choctaw Nation have a significant history.
Matt McIrvin
@cain: Nostalgia is fun, but if you trust nostalgia about the good times as a picture of the actual state of the world when you were young, you’re inviting dangerous delusions. I have nostalgia for all kinds of stuff from the Reagan era (old video games, music, movies and TV shows), which is also when I think our civic culture was intentionally holed below the waterline. I don’t believe for a moment that all that cultural product meant it was a better, simpler time. (The best music was often making cultural critiques.) But if you go on Facebook groups about this stuff… oh boy, you will surely meet people who do think that.
Matt McIrvin
@wjca: That’s already been going on with Harris–Laura Loomer claimed Harris was lying about being Black because (get this) the birth certificate listed her father as “Jamaican” instead. And there’s some nativist group claiming that people with foreign parents can’t be “natural-born citizens”, regardless of where they were born. They just keep upping the ante of hateful absurdity.
Anyway
John Eastman has been pushing that for a while. — my fear has always been that he’ll somehow get it to the crazy SC(R)OTUS and then all bets are off. Can’t take anything for granted until it’s in the bag.
Sally
@narya: May I come in and support you on peppermint?
I too love strawberry!
Ruckus
@Baud:
No mac and cheese?
What kind of American are you?
Gloria DryGarden
@M31: grapefruit sorbet recipe, please!!!!
Gloria DryGarden
I’ll try garam masala in coconut milk w honey, that might come close to the ice cream idea, maybe w chia, for pudding. Less work.
peach tomato salsa, I never thought, but w clove or ginger in the strained juice, omg, I want some soon.
so many lovely ideas here. Good tasting food is art, the marriage of flavors can be sublime..
btw, lemon and chocolate together are amazing, but hard to find. I invented it one afternoon while making pound cake, but it’s around once in awhile.
Kayla Rudbek
@Gvg: do they get jobs solely by nepotism? Even background checks usually go back just 10 years…