I really don’t see the upside for Trumpublicans on this one, but I guess I’m not as smart as them:
WASHINGTON — Donald Trump is pressuring Republicans to shut down the government at the end of this month if Congress doesn’t pass a GOP-backed proposal to establish new election rules nationwide.
Trump has called on Republicans in Congress to link funding the government with the SAVE Act, which would require proof of citizenship to vote — in a bid to target non-citizen voting, which is already illegal. And House Republican leaders are considering adopting the strategy and picking a fight with Democrats.
The deadline to fund the government is Sept. 30. The GOP-led House and Democratic-led Senate have to agree on how to move forward in order to prevent a shutdown, and Democrats have decried the SAVE Act as a poison pill.
“I would shut down the government in a heartbeat if they don’t get it,” Trump said on the “Monica Crowley Show” last week.
My guess is that a few Biden-district “traitors” on the Republican side will vote for a clean continuing resolution rather than be branded as do-nothing shitbirds, but it’s hard to predict where each clown will end up once they exit the car.
MattF
So… we’re all going to be reminded about Republican dysfunction in the House, just before Election Day. Excellent!
Villago Delenda Est
President Bob Dole approves this strategy.
Amy!
Is the point of this just that, when they lose (at least the Presidential race), they can point at the refusal of Democrats to accept this bit of pointless theater as proof, Proof, PROOF! that the election was RIGGLED and STOLLENATED!? FROD! FROD AND MALFY’S ANTS!
Srsly, is it intended to provide one of their justifications for (another) insurrection?
Jeffg166
Don Old’s mental meltdown continues.
Karen S.
I think I’ve run out of words to describe how angry I am that that horrible creature is allowed to roam around freely and run for the highest public office in the land. I’m not surprised or shocked that he’s still able to do that. After all, this is a country that has failed many of its citizens in a variety of ways since its founding. Still, the fact that that senile old coot hasn’t been clapped in irons yet is infuriating.
Lord Fartdaddy (Formerly Mumphrey, Smedley Darlington Mingobat, et al.)
As Barack Obama once said, please proceed.
SatanicPanic
Nice of him to come right out and take credit. A more clever person would have avoided that
Omnes Omnibus
Even if the law were passed today, it could not be implemented prior to Election Day. Idiots.
Raven
There are multiple reports that Barrow County Schools received warnings that 5 schools would be attacked and Appalachee was first on the list.
bbleh
I feel VERY STRONGLY that it is our PATRIOTIC DUTY as Loyal Americans to INSIST LOUDLY that our Representatives and Senators — especially if they are Republican but even if not — SUPPORT THE LEADER in this bold — nay, heroic! — effort to Preserve Our Way Of Life!!
Teach the controversy!
Chris
@Lord Fartdaddy (Formerly Mumphrey, Smedley Darlington Mingobat, et al.):
As Napoleon said: “never interrupt your enemy when he’s making a mistake.”
(As Czar Alexander the First said: “thanks for the tip!”)
bbleh
@Omnes Omnibus: ah but it would make the news cycle (and several thereafter), and it’s not like Republicans care about actual governance.
mrmoshpotato
Doesn’t Putin’s fascist bitch know that Biden is still President, and would never sign this shit into law?
ETA – and I don’t even know how the states would react, ie. telling the GOP and Dump to get fucked.
DFH
@Lord Fartdaddy (Formerly Mumphrey, Smedley Darlington Mingobat, et al.):
EXACTLY. Sorry for shouting.
TBone
Remember Bud Light being “cancelled?” This is even funnier than that lame attempt:
https://crooksandliars.com/2024/09/fck-you-amazon-maga-mad-alexa-over-answers
They’re out here smashing their bots with sledgehammers 😆
lollipopguild
@Amy!: Stollenated??? I love you.
TBone
I’m not gonna be held hostage by the shutdown narrative of the RWNJs in Congress or the stupid framing/spin the MSM will apply either.
I dissent!
mrmoshpotato
@MattF:
Apparently! Great timing on these Dump-humping idiots’ part.
Baud
My guess is that they are trying to find some hook to get the media on their side, which in this case means getting the media to write about “Washington dysfunction.”
Anoniminous
@Omnes Omnibus:
Not to mention the little matter of Article II Section 1:
danielx
@Baud:
Lather, rinse, repeat.
SatanicPanic
@Omnes Omnibus: ah but what of SCOTUS…
nevermind I can’t
Motivated Seller
fixed that for you
Baud
The SAVE Act would actually impose a burden on all voters.
The Audacity of Krope
I am so excited at the prospect of showing up to vote with my birth certificate, social security card, and my last five years of taxes, let me tell you…
Has Donold proven he’s a citizen? I want the long-form social security card. nothing less.
MattF
@Baud: The catch is that they’re insisting on passing a law against something that’s already illegal. I suppose the media will find a way to ignore this itty-bitty problem.
Miki
Welcome to Season 8, Episode 248 of The Chaos & Shit Show.
How’s that working out for you, MAGATs?
Omnes Omnibus
@SatanicPanic: No, even assuming the law is completely Constitutional and no one challenges it at all, you could not get the regulations and procedures in in place, let alone train 97 year old election volunteers on the new rules in time.
JPL
When I renewed my license, the state would only accept a notorized copy of my birth certificate. It cost me over 100 dollars to have it sent to me.
The Audacity of Krope
It seems the relevant change here is the requirement to produce proof of citizenship at the time of voting. I suppose it isn’t sufficient that the state checks on you when you register.
mrmoshpotato
@MattF:
Yes – by shoving their heads up Dump’s ass.
Sister Golden Bear
Courtesy of relentless Trump fact checker Daniel Dale Moms For Liberty Founder Is “Very Happy” That Trump Lied About Public Schools Performing Gender Surgery
What’s a little blood libel between haters, amirite.
Just a reminder that if a child doesn’t want a parent to know that their name, pronouns, and/or gender presentation is different at school, there’s a good (often safety-related reason) for that.
mrmoshpotato
@JPL: I’ll have to find mine to get a new license. 🙄
sab
@Baud: I was born in North Carolina. I left the state when I was two. When I had to get a passport to go to my nephew’s wedding in Canada it took me almost a year to get my birth certificate from North Carolina. ( I missed the wedding.)
Proving citizenship isn’t always easy if you live in a big country where people routinely travel. And I don’t want my politics dominated by people who have never gone anywhere.
Frankensteinbeck
This does not sound like the plan of someone who thinks he’s going to win, or already has it rigged.
MattF
@JPL: I got a new (embossed!) copy of my birth certificate from New York City a few years ago, and it was quite easy. The relevant agency sub-contracted the verification to a company that specializes in that process.
Frankensteinbeck
Hey, does anyone know if something happened to Bird App besides Brazil? Because artists who maintained a BSky account but never used it are suddenly posting stuff.
pat
Just got home and saw this and OMG can they get any dumber? How many REGISTERED voters can PROVE their citizenship? Talk about throwing a monkeywrench into the procedure. Wow.
Baud
@Frankensteinbeck:
Brazil banned Twitter
ETA: I see you said besides Brazil. Don’t know.
The Audacity of Krope
And how many people want to wait while we do that for hundreds or thousands of people at each polling location?
Trollhattan
You hate to see it.
Guess he can just print some more.
Tokyokie
Because I don’t trust the GOP, I have for several years taken my current voter registration card, driver’s license, and U.S. passport with me when I vote.
JoyceH
@Baud: I don’t think Republicans realize that this sort of law would weed out a lot of their own folks. There are plenty of natural born citizens whose family has been here for four or six or eight generations, who if they still own their birth certificate they can’t find it and they’ve never gone anywhere so they don’t have a passport.
KatKapCC
@pat:
Always. No matter how dumb, they can always get dumber.
JPL
It’s even more complicated for females who took there husband’s name. You have to show marriage or divore papers too. Imagine the female who married 2/3/4 times. I actually hoped that my DIL wouldn’t take my son’s last name, but she had her reasoning to shed her last name.
Bill Arnold
@Motivated Seller:
Imagery urgently needed!, :-)
Cheryl from Maryland
The SAVE Act is a poll tax. One or one’s parents are not issued a birth certificate, one has to apply to the state AND PAY FOR IT.
sab
@JPL: It took me two months to inherit my dad’s IRA because Vanguard couldn’t fathom the idea that a 70 year old woman had had two names and lived in two states while only having one social security number. Fortunately I am a packrat and had kept documentation for every event in my life.
HinTN
@JPL: Sheeeit, man. Only $25 here. I’ve got the gold star on my TNDL now. I can go to the federal building. Woot
skerry
@Cheryl from Maryland: If the name on your birth certificate doesn’t match the name you use now, you also have to provide proof of name change. In my case, a marriage certificate. Had to pay to get a copy of that too.
sab
@Cheryl from Maryland: Our latest iteration of Supreme Court won’t see it that way.
RaflW
I don’t see how sowing chaos 36 days before the election (and well into early voting in many states) by Republicans could possibly backfire on Republicans.
TBone
Looks like I gathered all those documents and paid extra for that ‘RealID’ driver’s license that I was told would be required to fly or enter any federal building for nothing…
I complained bitterly at the time, and now the requirement has been “delayed.” I doubt this will ever go forward even though they insist it will:
Scout211
And in more Republican silliness: The right wing news is all aflutter because relatives of Tim Walz are planning to vote for Trump! There is also a “bombshell” photo!
This is big! Family members who still reside in Nebraska and Florida are voting for Trump! Big bombshell, people! LOL
Some members of his family don’t have his same political beliefs so it’s MAGA proof of something, something, something . . . MAGA!
And the added grammatically incorrect apostrophe on their t-shirts will not please our pedants here on balloon-juice. But it truly is an added touch. Of something.
Jackie
@Raven:
YIKES! Are they suggesting possible multiple shooters? One or more per school???
schrodingers_cat
@Baud: This will affect people who don’t have a birth certificate. I remember some horror stories of a Texan who had developmental issues being deported despite being a citizen because he couldn’t produce a birth certificate.
Jay
https://nitter.poast.org/stevanzetti/status/1831411200057602547#m
Fucker Fishsticks has also been mentioned.
Trollhattan
@Jay:
Confess I’ve spiked any former belief I had that associations with Russia/USSR/the mob will either harm or give pause to any Republican.
“Russia, if you’re listening” should have been campaign-ending.
Dorothy A. Winsor
@Baud: The ironic thing is that naturalized citizens are more likely to have proof of citizenship readily available than those born here. People lose their birth certificates and only half the population has a passport.
Jay
@Jackie:
Threats are usually made against multiple targets, when threats are made, to spread the panic and stretch response resources.
It is actually quite rare for a mass shooter to made an explicit threat just before the event. It is more common to start with threats in their social group, then quite later, threats to the site, part of a process of “normalizing” the violence they are planning to commit.
Trollhattan
Wonder if Betty C is pestering some gators today—National Wildlife Day!
Villago Delenda Est
Every family has its less mentally stable types. My sister, for example.
Trollhattan
@Dorothy A. Winsor:
Kiddo registered to vote in NC using her passport. She’s keeping her CA DL because this is in theory a one-year dealio.
West of the Rockies
@Amy!:
I like your funny comment! If you’re new here, stick around!
This “strategy” never works and always makes Republicans look bad. Mike Johnson, Engage!
Miki
Apropos of, well, jeebus. If The Shoe Fits.
H-Bob
@Scout211: So the crazy racist uncle at Gus Walz’s Thanksgiving dinner is going to endorse the Donvict?
Geminid
@RaflW: Yeah, Mike Johnson will put a couple dozen or more Republican Representatives at greater risk if he follows Trump’s lead on this. One problem here is that Johnson also has a couple of dozen or more nihilists in his caucus who do not give a shit about their purple district colleagues.
Johnson really doesn’t want this trouble but he’s getting it good and hard anyway. It’s a good thing he’s a man of faith!
rikyrah
Senator Roland Gutierrez (@RolandForTexas) posted at 3:15 PM on Tue, Sep 03, 2024:
Ken Paxton’s raids are point blank voter suppression.
Texas is 60% Latino, Black, and Asian – and he is trying to silence our voices by shaking down our grandmothers. https://t.co/YSmymJ32BC
(https://x.com/RolandForTexas/status/1831063370126299204?t=iZEYVA1EgnkO0_wDQvdaOw&s=03)
lollipopguild
@Trollhattan: Not when 40% of the gop think Russia is some sort of paradise on earth compared to America.
Matt McIrvin
There’s a constitutional amendment specifically banning poll taxes, which is what this is.
rikyrah
@schrodingers_cat:
A sizeable group of people born Black in the Jim Crow South, where they weren’t allowed to be born in a hospital, and was born at home with a midwife.
My mother was the youngest of 15 children. None of which were born in a hospital.
My oldest sister was born before Brown v Board. She was born in my grandparent’s house in Mississippi.
Jay
@Trollhattan:
This will have no impact on the current or future crop of ReThugs,
There will be consequences for the “Merkins” involved. While State and the DOJ can quickly take action against Foreign actors, taking action against “Merkins” takes longer as a greater standard of evidence is required.
From start to arrests and charges, took 2 years of investigation, collecting evidence against the 2 “Merkin” Chinese agents in the NY State Gov’s office.
rikyrah
@Matt McIrvin:
Talk to the former felons who served their time and were supposed to get their voting rights restored in Florida.
What DeathSantis did to them. …
catclub
But did it have gold tassels? checkmate lib
Frankensteinbeck
@Geminid:
I am not at all sure of that. Previous legislative struggles suggest Johnson very much does want this kind of confrontation, but is A) a coward, and B) so stupid it’s hard to predict what he thinks is a good strategy.
Steve in the ATL
@Scout211:
WHERE WAS THE TRIGGER WARNING??? NOT COOL!!!111
piratedan
reading that the DOJ is in the process of levelling charges of election interference against Tenet Communications which is the home of just who you might expect to be distributing and parroting Russian disinformation.
schrodingers_cat
@rikyrah: Disenfranchising people, especially the most loyal D voters is a feature not a bug with Republicans.
topclimber
I suggest the Senate pass the John Lewis Voting Rights Act and let them settle their differences with the House in Conference: As in, House drops its BS and Senate waits for a House majority that passes their version.
catclub
@Matt McIrvin:
IN previous cases, all the states that require official ID as proof of something in order to vote, did not bother to provide state ID for EVERYONE eligible.
Likewise, if the Democrats offer to generate a valid national ID card, for EVERYONE eligible, for free, that will give them the heebie jeebies.
RaflW
@JPL: Was this to compl with the Real ID fiasco? I tried 5 years ago and it was a shitshow at my DMV. Thankfully congress kept pushing back the deadline for flying w/o Real ID, and then in the interim I needed to renew my passport anyway (which was far easier than getting a freaking DL renewed!) so I paid a bit extra for a Passport ID card. I live in MN so I can actually see using it for automotive crossings into Canada.
Anyhoo, fast forward 4 years and I’d had time to sort out the documentary chain of bullshit, and ‘upgrading’ (barf) to Really Intrusive ID wasn’t so bad. In the end, I have yet to use the Passport Card because of the number of TSA extensions.
Manyakitty
@Frankensteinbeck: hopefully the influx from Brazil is enough to get lots of people posting over there.
UncleEbeneezer
Kyle Griffin on Shitter:
Jay
In Canada, each Province issues a free long form Birth Certificate and a laminated, (now plastic) wallet card, when the birth is registered, ( again, free).
Most Parents pass them on to the kids at various ages.
I still have mine.
There is also an online ( now) Registry, both Provincial and Federal.
We also get a free Social Insurance Number and laminated (now plastic) card, usually just before we get our first job. I am on my second, (replacement was free). I broke my first one in half eventually, from shimming door locks in High School.
sab
@rikyrah: Back in the day it was safer not to be a registered person in the Jim Crow South.
catclub
@Jay: sensible! Therefore impossible to do in these United States.
Baud
We should start branding babies at birth.
zhena gogolia
@Manyakitty: Hi — I appreciate your input on a previous thread!
Jay
@Baud:
How do you know that they won’t be post birth aborted moments later. I hear murder is a thing in the US.
catclub
Michael Lewis Writing on government service:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/interactive/2024/michael-lewis-chris-marks-the-canary-who-is-government/?itid=mr_opinions_1
Yes, it might be paywalled – I got a government emailaddress free sub.
He wrote a book called the Fifth Risk on all the neat things the Federal government does.
Manyakitty
@zhena gogolia: heyyy! Glad to hear it! ☺️
Craig
@Baud: sounds like Republican fuckery.
Lyrebird
@Raven: heartbreaking, enraging…
RaflW
@topclimber: I like this! Make it plain that Democrats are pro-voting, and Repubs are pro-disenfranchisement. A dumbass shutdown looks all the worse.
Mr. Bemused Senior
@catclub: what??? Government issued ID cards? Sacrilege!
Bill Arnold
@catclub:
Indeed. Such a card might as well have a hologram of a 666 in a Satanic Font!
RaflW
@UncleEbeneezer:
Hah:
Citizen Alan
@Tokyokie: Is a US passport proof of citizenship? Seriously, what is proof of citizenship. Because a birth certificate just shows where you were born and who your parents were, and these lackwits don’t think that a person born on US soil should count as citizen if their parents aren’t citizens. It would be hilarious if it turned out to be easier for naturalized citizens to prove their citizenship than people born here.
Ceci n est pas mon nym
@pat: Easily addressed. I’m sure their dream version of this law leaves it up to the discretion of the poll workers whether or not to demand proof of citizenship. And you’re the racist if you think they apply that discretion unequally.
SatanicPanic
@Bill Arnold: 🤘🏻
Anyway
My fear is that only Ds (most?) care about voting rights for all those eligible. RThugs don’t care about roadblocks and disenfranchisement.
JoyceH
Liz Cheney endorses Harris.
Sister Machine Gun of Quiet Harmony
A free national picture ID, updated every 10 years for free at the Post Office, solves this problem. Democrats should propose amendments immediately to do just that. This will help reduce identity fraud too, by making it easier to detect. It will reduce undocumented immigration, because it will be easier to verify whether someone is eligible to work. When a citizen updates their ID, they are registered automatically in the state they reside in to vote. Republicans want to make voting harder, let’s pivot and make proving citizenship easier so it isn’t a burden.
Honestly, the people most likely to object would be RFK or Trump voting crackpots anyway.
Trollhattan
@Baud: You mean like Ford and Doritos labeling?
Trollhattan
@JoyceH: !
A little surprised but she truly hates Trump and everything Trumpish.
Jeffro
This is just trump trying to sow maximum chaos pre-election AND lay the groundwork for post-election excuses/challenges/lies/intimidation/violence
utterly and completely disgusting
Kirk
Anyone else remember the controversy of the universal ID card? “OMG, they’re invading our privacy!” was the theme, as I recall – led mainly by birchers and militias
Baud
@JoyceH:
Whoa.
JPL
so ETTU Liz. I hope she campaigns with other republicans who can speak about the crazy orange man.
JPL
@JoyceH: Next is Bush.
JPL
@JoyceH: Next is Bush.
zhena gogolia
@JoyceH: Woo-hoo!
zhena gogolia
@JPL: I doubt it.
Frankensteinbeck
@Kirk:
Oh, the evangelicals are very serious in their screaming paranoia over the Number Of The Beast. It plays into their general “You’re not the boss of me!” obsession. The freakout over any kind of universal ID in this country is depressingly large.
Anyway
No, birth certificate counts for voting — if your parents weren’t citizens when you were born you can’t run for POTUS. That’s the convoluted logic pushed by Eastman and co.
Baud
I hope the Liz Cheney endorsement can overcome the Walz family shocker.
zhena gogolia
@Baud: What’s that?
Baud
@zhena gogolia:
Walz has a bunch of wingnut relatives who support Trump.
Steve LaBonne
@Baud: Somebody pointed out somewhere that having MAGA relatives just makes him exactly like almost any other white Midwestern Democrat.
twbrandt
Another Scott
I heard a bit of an interview with a reporter from TheHill about this on C-Span radio this afternoon. He said they knew it wasn’t going to pass [and force Biden to sign it] because Schumer wasn’t going to bring it up for a vote in the Senate.
The plan, apparently, is to hurry up and have a vote on it early next week, and then when that is out of the way, they’ll start to do the actual [work to] vote to pass a clean CR, do something about the Farm Bill that expires (again) at the end of September, and a few other things.
TCFFG loves the drama, and a few in the House do as well, but the rest of the GQPers aren’t going to set their careers on fire just before an election to make Donold happy.
We’ll see!
Forward!!
Cheers,
Scott.
Steve LaBonne
@twbrandt: The issue is that they’re not packing them up and shipping them to Russia.
Baud
Photo, via reddit
Baud
@Another Scott:
“Maybe Trump won’t notice the government is still running.”
Jay
@Frankensteinbeck:
Isn’t that a bonus?
A free National Universal ID and requirements where it’s use is required, will require either “The Mark of The Beast/Communism” to get it for Government services of some kinds, or hold to their conspiracy theories and opt out,……………
Say, like Voting.
karen marie
@twbrandt: “What does $400,000 in crayons even look like.”
I laughed so loud, I woke up my dog.
frosty
@Dorothy A. Winsor: Losing a birth certificate is no bid deal. Any activity that requires one will want it from your birth state with an official seal – you’ll have to get a new one. And yes, it costs money. Same for marriage licenses. We had to do this multiple times for adoptions.
JPL
@Baud: Bless his heart. He’s popular because the state is doing good. Both Biden and Ossoff pumped money into GA . Kemp took credit but also is on record saying he would not have voted for the bills that helped the state.
Scout211
Is the media starting to mock The Donald?
Baud
@JPL:
Yeah, I’m aware a bunch of states that are going gang busters aren’t crediting Biden.
Citizen Alan
@Sister Machine Gun of Quiet Harmony: The screaming about “the Mark of the Beast” would be audible from Jupiter.
Another Scott
@Baud: They cribbed the text from the Stop LIzard People Posing as Entertaining Republican Youth Act, with appropriate Search & Replace.
My barber’s half-brother’s cousin’s friend said that that’s a real problem and he hopes that Congress does something about it. Lizard people have their scales in everything, you know.
Cheers,
Scott.
lowtechcyclist
@Scout211:
So he’s got second cousins (possibly a generation or two removed) who don’t share his politics. Big whoop.
Bupalos
This is cornered-rat type action.
Which surprises me a little, I think as of today Trump is even-odds or better of winning the election he’s trying to undermine.
Which probably means he and his people know he can’t actually win at campaigning. They’re acting like this is a high-water point.
Ironcity
@Baud: I chipped my golden retriever. He walked a little funny for a day but seems fine now.
Bupalos
@lowtechcyclist: grandfather’s brother??!! To hear Walz talk he’s in MAGA company on the regular, not every third Christmas!
cain
@Baud: The retired folks will be just fine – but it’s going to bite them in the ass.
Ultimately, the goal is to make voting harder like they do in Texas.
3Sice
As of today, they are all in on PA NC GA – 269 and throwing shit at the wall post election.
It’s a slim reed, but a candidate no longer fit to campaign is a bit of a loadstone.
lowtechcyclist
@Geminid:
Nihilists! Say what you want about the tenets of National Socialism…hey wait, he’s got some of those too.
cain
@Scout211: Not the NYT or the Washington Post!
Matt McIrvin
@Anyway: Oh, they don’t even think being born on US soil should count for citizenship. That’s mainstream Republican dogma at this point. (I even know some Democrats who agree, based on what I think is a shortsighted reaction to stories about “birth tourism”.)
I think most of them will admit that it DOES currently count for citizenship, but I’ve seen arguments trying to extract something else from the phrase “subject to the jurisdiction thereof”.
BellaPea
I. Am. SO. Sick. of. The Orange Menace. It’s like one of those movie monsters that never dies. Fed up.
sdhays
@Jay: Only in Stand Your Ground states.
Villago Delenda Est
@Miki: Oh, bravo!
Marc
Forgive me, but I can only imagine this being said with a straight face by a (middle class or above) white person.
Steve LaBonne
P@Marc: Please delete mods, I accidentally messed up my username.
edit: fixed.
Steve LaBonne
@Marc: It’s a pain in the ass, requires considerable Internet savvy, requires an online payment method, and ain’t cheap. (I had to get mine from New York a few years ago so I could put in for my pension when I was about to retire.) It’s exactly the kind of thing that imposes a heavy burden on poor people and the Republican motherfuckers who pass voter ID laws know that very damn well.
wjca
Tsk. Assumes facts not in evidence, counselor.
Specifically, that they have the least desire to see it passed. Especially that minority with two brain cells to rub together — they realize that the folks most likely to be able to readily lay their hands on proof of citizenship are . . . naturalized citizens. Oops.
Ken
That’s just what the Greys of Zeta Reticuli want you to think.
lowtechcyclist
@catclub:
That was absolutely the coolest article I’ve ever read in the Washington Post! And I read the WaPo daily for over 30 years, so that’s saying a lot.
Marc
You make it sound so easy. So, you’ll just need to show some documentation at a Post Office and you’ll get a pretty (no doubt with pictures of eagles) US National Biometric Identification Card in return? If for whatever reason you can’t produce the required minimum set of documents: no work, no voting, no air travel, no social security, no medical care? Sounds like a fun time for some poor folks, likely ending with a free ride to a random border or internment camp. I don’t think I could vote in good conscience for any Democrat who would support something like this, but maybe you can.
wjca
So, in Georgia, carrying a gun at the polls counts as proof of citizenship? Good to know. Well, unless you’re a pollworker.
Matt McIrvin
@Steve LaBonne: There are people out there who don’t register to vote because they think (probably incorrectly) that registering to vote is what gets you jury duty, and jury duty would devastate them because they’re living paycheck to paycheck and get no compensation for the hourly losses. No way is anyone even close to that situation going to jump through the surprisingly expensive hoops to get a birth certificate so they can vote.
Chris T.
@Steve LaBonne:
Yeah, only weird people think it’s unusual to have a crazy uncle.