Ducks disappearing from the Northern hemisphere in September? The only possibility is that they were eaten by Haitians. https://t.co/CMEcfuj3KO
— Shadow Of The Nerdtree (@agraybee) September 9, 2024
I remember my Anthro 101 professor, fifty years ago, telling us that one of the universal human constants was the conviction that Those people on the other side of the river eat taboo foods and have sex with prohibited kinfolk. The modern GOP, of course, considers this a valuable plank in their ‘Old ways are the BEST — real Murican — ways‘ platform…
You lying, racist, couch fucking piece of shit https://t.co/I84UgTpnmo
— Ragnarok Lobster 🐺 (@eclecticbrotha) September 9, 2024
Gym Jordan’s legislative lynch mob investigative committee:
The voters demand policy. https://t.co/beFUD8C1A4
— Shadow Of The Nerdtree (@agraybee) September 9, 2024
I hate to quote David Frum, but the man *does* understand Republican pathology… “Trump Promises a ‘Bloody Story’”:
Donald Trump says something crazy or vicious almost every time he speaks. It’s his nature, but it’s also a political strategy. The flow of half-demented, half-depraved talk energizes those who enjoy it—and exhausts those who are horrified by it…
At a campaign rally in Wisconsin yesterday, Trump talked about his plans for “mass deportation” of border-crossers. “In Colorado, they’re so brazen, they’re taking over sections of the state,” he claimed, presumably alluding to reports of gang activity in an apartment building in a Denver suburb. “And you know, getting them out will be a bloody story. They should never have been allowed to come into our country. Nobody checked them.”…
Trump’s “bloody story” talk is not a guide to what a hypothetical future Trump administration would do. A future Trump administration will be a chaos of constitutional and foreign-policy crises, incapable of any kind of considered or consistent domestic policy. Bloody story is instead a revelation about how Trump feels—and a troubling reminder of the sources of his appeal. Real-world enforcement implies real costs. Labor would become more scarce. Immigrant-dependent services would become more expensive. The roofing industry, for example, now relies heavily on the most recent immigrants, so housing would cost more. Trump never accepts trade-offs. He deals in lies and delusions, such as financing child care through supposedly free money from magic tariffs that somehow protect U.S. industry without costing U.S. consumers anything.
Above all, Trump traffics in yearnings for punishment of people he regards as outsiders and inferiors. They will suffer, they will shed blood, they will pay—and somehow their pain and their loss will elevate and empower him and those who support him. It’s never true, but for a moment it feels good. What more vivid form of power is there than the power to inflict pain?
I'm locking in a prediction now
Trump will call Kamala a Haitian tomorrow and all of our media will insist that he just got Jamaican and Haiti mixed up and this isn't a dogwhistle
— Sam (ABeardedPanda) (@ABeardedPanda) September 9, 2024
Pundits and policy wonks have rightly pointed out the infeasibility of various left-wing programs, from their funding to implementation , but this tops them all. It's a child's idea of how immigration enforcement could work.
— Shadow Of The Nerdtree (@agraybee) September 9, 2024
The JD Vance thing was a joke that nobody thought was true whereas the fake "Haitians eating pets" thing is a right-wing psyop that idiots actually believe that the far-right is using to create racist animosity against a specific immigrant population
It's not the same https://t.co/q4hM59Jp8l
— Swann Marcus (@SwannMarcus89) September 9, 2024
More than 2% of Floridians are of Haitian descent (the highest by far of any state) https://t.co/5QBsZ2sySy
— River_Tam (@RiverTamYDN) September 10, 2024
It's constantly demanded by the media that Dems put out detailed policy positions, while the GOP messaging is all based around some completely made up Facebook comment forward hoax. Both sides. https://t.co/9Vt12KeLUQ
— Centrism Fan Acct 🔹 (@Wilson__Valdez) September 9, 2024
This is not new. I went to high school in Flushing, Queens in 1997-2001 and there was a running joke among parents of my classmates about how there are no more stray dogs in Flushing and if you know Flushing, you know what that references.
You know who else is from Queens?— Nicky Frank (@NickyFrank30) September 9, 2024
The Dominican Republic and Haiti have been enemies for about 150 years, so I'm not sure what the point is here.
"Sure, the story is false, but it could be true because people who hate Haitians say bad things about them?"
My family thinks Sicilians rape girls. So what?— Nicky Frank (@NickyFrank30) September 9, 2024
You ever wonder how some guy could walk into a medieval village and say he saw a man with the head of an elk stealing all the grain and it ended with four hangings https://t.co/9HX6n6g821
— Goatstein (@MandelaFace) September 9, 2024
p.a.
Heisenberg has set up shop in Ohio?
bcwbcw
geez, don’t they know we don’t eat cats? only Christian babies.
satby
I’m so old I remember the rumors and slander was about Chinese immigrants stealing dogs to eat them.
In the 1980s.
CaseyL
These GOP slime fests are disgusting, repulsive, and the RW mudfuckers spreading them would be well served by a week or so in the public stocks being pelted with rotten eggs…. but who is being moved by those stories?
My guess is the only people who believe them are Trump voters anyway.
People we will never be able to reach, so why bother?
satby
Trump has a special hate on for Haitians and the humanitarian parole program many came to the US under. He tried to eliminate it in his last time in office.
David 🐝KHive🐝 Koch
Don’t The Simpsons live in Springfield. Maybe its their nuclear power plant causing the disappearing ducks.
zhena gogolia
This is all horrible, but that “Please vote for Trump” meme is making me laugh, I have to admit.
Villago Delenda Est
Xenophobia is one of the hallmark MAGAt tropes. They thrive on it, and they’ll tell whatever lies they see fit to promulgate it.
Lacuna Synecdoche
I’m looking at that photoshopped (or AI?) picture of Trump holding a kitten and duck and, frankly, that duck looks nonplussed and the kitten looks terrified. I mean, look at that kitten’s eyes.
Gin & Tonic
If this doesn’t ultimately trace back to russia, as most such tightly coordinated disinfo does, I’ll eat my hat.
I said hat.
zhena gogolia
@zhena gogolia: Ugh, I just realized it made Cruz laugh too. But I’m laughing at stupid Republicans.
zhena gogolia
@Gin & Tonic: шляпу, не кошку
schrodingers_cat
@Villago Delenda Est: When the orange beast came down the escalator he put a target on every immigrant’s back. He is evil.
zhena gogolia
@Gin & Tonic: Once again, can’t use Cyrillic. So I’ll transliterate it.
shliapu, ne koshku
Shalimar
Someone randomly shipped the town 20,000 Haitians? Have they tried calling Texas Governor Abbott? That really sounds more like his M.O. than Biden.
satby
Chef José Andrés @chefjoseandres
59m
Haitians are good people. Hard working people.
@JDVance @realDonaldTrump and @elonmusk@X
platform have not right to spread false claims, to lie …they don’t love immigrants and they don’t love USA, a country of immigrants..
Harrison Wesley
There are lots of Haitians around where I live. Many of them live in the developments immediately around me, and I hear a lot of Creole spoken when I’m on the bus. Strangely enough, all the ponds and creeks and other waterways here are overflowing with ducks, geese, and a gazillion other varieties of birds. Maybe it’s part of Haitian cuisine that only domesticated animals are devoured. I guess I’ll have to begin corralling them on the street: “Yo, y’all Haitian, right? Where’s my dog?” Another way to make friends.
MobiusKlein
Next thing you know, the GOP will go after the Chinese, since they feature duck in many dishes.
Also don’t forget that goose is a traditional English dish for the holidays.
NotMax
Some things don’t change (6:27 – 7:07).
//
Jay
It’s the party of Weird where every accusation is a confession.
NotMax
@satby
In the 1950s, into the 60s, the scuttlebutt was about Chinese restaurants serving cats rounded up from the neighborhood.
Steve LaBonnego
Mods please delete, I fat fingered my username.
Harrison Wesley
https://youtu.be/QO5NJpeLg7s?si=dC7lEycTJIb_zPv6
Gin & Tonic
@zhena gogolia:
For the people in the back.
That whole thing is weird, because the words for “cat” and “hat” aren’t even close to rhyming in any Slavic language.
scav
oooooOOOOoooooo! They’ve discovered the meme power setting on the campaign machine. Cute Kitties! Will they be heroically saving them from childless cat ladies next?
Chet Murthy
These slurs against various immigrant groups are right out of the “sadopopulism” playbook ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOjJtEkKMX4 ) and the rapid-fire nature of them makes me wonder if the bad guys are getting desperate. If they had confidence, they wouldn’t be throwing out such blatant falsehoods so …. rapid-fire, they’d throw out something and work it to make it stick (I would think). But instead they’re throwing one out, and when it doesn’t stick, throwing the next one out. Of course, they have nothing positive to offer but that goes almost without saying, since that is the nature of oligarchic and personalist regimes: they specialize in loyalty, and with loyalty comes incompetence. So all they can offer is new targets for hatred. But it’s done so …. clumsily.
I want to believe that this means they can see they’re losing, but …. I’m not an optimistic guy by nature.
Steve LaBonne
@CaseyL: The reason to bother is that this Radio Rwanda shit can get people killed.
Lacuna Synecdoche
@satby:
I’m pretty sure that particular slur goes all the way back to the 19th century – maybe even earlier.
Chet Murthy
@Steve LaBonne: @CaseyL: And also because, unanswered, they’ll continue to push the line, and uninformed barely-aware “Ariana Grande” [h/t Paul Campos @ LGM] voters will believe the calumny, since nobody is refuting it. And then they’ll vote on it.
zhena gogolia
@Gin & Tonic: I can’t see TikTok!
Chet Murthy
@Gin & Tonic: Ok for us kids in the back of the class who didn’t do our languages homework today, what’s going on there? I see a pretty girl wearing her kitty-cat as a hat, and singing along. But that’s it.
Chet Murthy
@zhena gogolia: Can you open the link in an incognito window ? That often works for me.
frosty
Good one!
Gin & Tonic
@Chet Murthy: That is it. From the universe of weird TikToks.
Sometimes you see a meme and can’t really be bothered to figure out what’s up.
NotMax
@Jay
Did someone say weird?
:)
hitchhiker
My sister’s kid married a guy from the DR, and I went along to visit her in 2019, the winter before the pandemic. Telling you this because of a comment/tweet upthread that says Dominicans aren’t racist because they’re black, too.
LOL.
The DR guy who is now in my extended family is one of the most racist people I’ve ever met. Like, openly, and happily. He explained to me how cool it was that when my niece had her DNA tested, it showed that she had no African blood at all, and how if they had kids, their skin would be even lighter than his — and he was very proud to have brown and not black skin.
He pointed to Haitian day-laborers crammed into the back of a pickup truck — all very black — and got into a whole discussion about how they were only allowed to be in the DR for x amount of time, and then they had to go back. He shrugged, saying this, to indicate that it sucked to be them, oh well. Obviously they weren’t worth keeping around. Much too black.
Did I mention he worked for the government? Drove a fancy car, paid for our dinner with his gov’t credit card, used it again later to buy groceries and gas, told us everybody does it. Yay, corruption.
I knew ahead of time that he was a trump fan, and would have gladly taken him apart if my sister hadn’t begged me to hold back. She suspects that he bullies her kid, but doesn’t know how exactly that manifests.
banditqueen
Weird isn’t going to do it for this vile, dangerous, racist BS–their fanatical followers were waving “mass deportation now” signs at the republi-klan rally so they’re primed & ready to conjure up any easy, shameless lie about neighbors they don’t like: ‘gangs in apartments in Colorado’, ‘pets being eaten’ (RFKJr who, K Noem who), ‘who’s maybe getting an abortion’… VDVance can scarcely talk about his wife and children without contempt. Walz should tell VD Vance that vance is a disgrace to the uniform he wore–I just wish Walz could rip VD’s insignia off while doing so.
This story, with the standing threat of massive deportation and accompanying violent threats–are shouting to us about something that can only end in horror and the media cannot be allowed to ‘sane’ wash any aspect of what is happening with the trump crime party.
à bas le republican party
Chet Murthy
@banditqueen:Factio Republicanem delenda est ?
I don’t know Latin, but ISTR (((CassandraLeo))) over at LG&M coining something like this. Inspiration hers, errors mine.
Hoppie
I was born in Springfield, which is hardly a “small town”, and grew up in a real small town ten miles south. Springfield never really completely recovered after Crowell-Collier Publishing closed their plant in the 1950’s. I would think the immigrants will help reinvigorate the city.
HumboldtBlue
Doggo is hesitant to use her buttons…
Jay
@Shalimar:
The normal path, is somebody moves somewhere, finds a job and affordable living, sends some money back home. Say’s it’s a “good place”, or maybe just not “horrible” place to live. Then somebody else comes, and then another, and then another, and soon there is a community, and being a community, there is community support for new arrivals.
Jackie
Hopefully every Haitian/American in Florida votes for Harris. And Haitian/Americans elsewhere, of course!
SpaceUnit
I’m finding hope and joy in their desperation.
And also the projection – MAGA world realizing that they’re the goose that’s about to get cooked.
Chris
Let’s not jump to conclusions.
SiubhanDuinne
@NotMax:
Shades of Mrs. Lovett and her pie shop, pre-Sweeney.
banditqueen
@Chet Murthy: I think @Villago Delenda Est: has the plan–the repubs and the village are too close together at this point–a new opposition party and reconfigured media can form and build after the current monsters are left in the dust bin of bad history.
Jay
You see, they arn’t killing ducks like real “Merkins”.
“Merkins” spend $4K on a 12 gauge autoloader shot gun, pay a gunsmith $300 to use ferns, leaves, grass blades and cheap spray paint to “camo” it, spend $2500 on “camo” patterned neoprene waders, boots, jacket, t-shirt, underwear, socks and one fluro orange truckers cap. They spend $5k to rent a hunting lease, in reeds in the water, out in the country, $2K for a “camo’d” duck blind and $500 on camo’s stilt chairs and tables to be able to sit comfortably in the wet duck blind. They then spend $2500-$40,000 on a pedigree’d, trained retriever with a blood line going back to the Roman Empire.
The “wrong sort of people”, go down to the City Park with a bag of stale bread, sit on a park bench and keep the framing hammer close.
NotMax
@SiubhanDuinne
Mart
I was working in the DR and had a first class fancy dinner with very wealthy expat Cubans whoDr families fled the commies to DR. They spent most of the evening shitting on Haiti and loving on the Felon. Only good thing to happen was I accidentally knocked my stupidly tall red wine glass all over the top dogs suit.
gwangung
These are weirdos who’re TRYING to be the Big Bad, and doing a sucky job of it. They’re trying to own the libs by getting people mad and hot ‘n bothered.
Mock the hell out of these boobs using stale, overused cliches.
Jay
@Mart:
In Haiti, the slaves won, but lost. They were forced to pay reparations to France, got regularly invaded and screwed over.
In the DR, the slave owners won.
John Revolta
I don’t know but I’ve been told that all the Latinos in New York- Puerto Ricans especially, but also Central Americans and Mexicans- hate the Dominicans because they think they’re better than all the rest of them and are extremely condescending to them.
Chet Murthy
None so blind as those who refuse to see: https://www.rawstory.com/donald-trump-polls-2669154041/
“‘Crazy’: Shouting erupts on CNN as Dem says Trump ‘protects and projects’ white supremacy”
Democratic strategist Keith Boykin jumped in and shared what he said “really bothers him” about these discussions.
“I never really talk about this because it’s not politically correct to say it, but he’s in a dead heat because of white people,” said Boykin, to which Urban shook his head in disagreement. “The majority of white people support Donald Trump.”
[….]
After a brief back-and-forth debate between Boykin and [CNN anchor Abby] Phillip, who noted Trump has improved his support with Black voters since 2016, Urban noted that Stelter also disagreed with Boykin.
Urza
Not that all Haitians would vote smartly, but wouldn’t 2% put Florida in play?
Ishiyama
The refrain from an old campfire song:
Roberto el oso
@Chris: And the thing about Vance and the couch is that, were hard evidence to be produced, no one would really be that surprised.
West of the Rockies
That final Christian Prepperr bit reveals everything one needs to know about whatever a Christian prepper is: racist, stupid, arrogant, and ugly.
Ghost of Joe Liebling’s Dog
@NotMax:
And at least as far back as WWII, there was a song about a Dutch man named Johnny Vorbeck, who invented a sausage-making machine, and depleted the neighborhood of cats and dogs before becoming ensausaged (word? now it is) himself.
ETA : Ishiyama got there first …
Shalimar
@Jay: There is no joke about Greg Abbott being an asshole in the normal way.
Chet Murthy
@Urza: Maybe they already are, and there are just that many asshole Cubans, Venezuelans and retirees ?
mrmoshpotato
Oh Shithead Ted… Go fuck yourself back in Canada.
HumboldtBlue
TS
I’m of an age with the weird old orange guy and no way do his hands look like they do in that picture.
columbusqueen
@Jay: Which happened up in Akron; immigrants from Nepal came & got jobs with a soap company, sent word back home, & now there’s a good-sized Nepali community who mostly work at the soap factory.
mrmoshpotato
@TS: Maybe it’s all the stupid dancing like he’s jerking off two penises at the same time.
columbusqueen
@mrmoshpotato: Someone else dubbed his move “the double hand job boogie.”
TS
Not to mention the idiot with the spanish language school. My IQ dropped by 10 points reading the MAGA answers to that video.
Until trump I would not have believed some people could be so dumb as to believe this s…t
mrmoshpotato
@columbusqueen: Hahaha! Bravo to that person!
Urza
I was just going to look at Penzy’s for some spices to reward them and its throwing server errors. Likely someone DDoS’d or hacked them and that’s directly the fault of a particular person who should be sued for it. At a minimum its lost business while its happening. Can’t even see if there’s a local store to go to in Washington.
4D*hiker
@Jay:
“keep the framing hammer close”……..hahaha.
Using the simplest tool required for a job has an unappreciated elegance which can’t be bought.
Recovering from covid and your comment was the first good laugh I’ve had in a week. Thanks. Hahaha
Ukai
If animals can talk to humans, they’d say to Republicans, “Leave us out of your sick activities and stories and go see a therapist, you fucking weirdos.”
Mai Naem mobile
@Urza: i figure the Harris people are going after the Jamaican American community in Florida which apparently is good sized which would make up for any Hatians voting for TFG. Apparently there’s a decent sized Jamaican American population in Texas, PA and NC as well. Maybe the NY Jamaican American population could make a difference in some US House races.
Another Scott
@Urza: Penzeys.com is working fine here in NoVA just now.
Good stuff. Enjoy, and happy hunting!
Cheers,
Scott.
JoyceH
It was just recently that I noticed the xenophobia in the word “outlandish” – when you call something outlandish, you’re saying “one of those weird wrong things that the outlanders do.”
columbusqueen
@Urza: State or DC?
Mai Naem mobile
So apparently Usha Vance has done next to no campaign events for TFG and her hubby. One of the first ones they send her out to with Vance is to a Butcher shop in PA. Usha Vance is a vegetarian. Almost feels like the TFG people aren’t happy with her husband and punishing her. Just seems so tone deaf.
mrmoshpotato
@Mai Naem mobile: I know nothing about her, so I feel sorry for her.
Princess
@Mai Naem mobile: That tracks. Trump loves humiliating men by humiliating their wives. He hurts Usha and Vance doesn’t defend her and is thus weakened. Just like Ted Cruz and his wife.
Jay
@mrmoshpotato:
She married J. Davenport Vance, her family is Sagn, (Indian Facists), no sympathy here.
NotMax
@Ghost of Joe Liebling’s Dog
Have always heard the name in the song as Dunderbeck.
piratedan
@mrmoshpotato: don’t. She knows who she married. Who she clerked for is a good indication that her motivations (no matter who she married) are tempered by class and money and power.
mrmoshpotato
@Jay:
@piratedan: Noted.
NotMax
FYI.
Closed up a smidgen from that low on Monday. Still hovering at a loss of aprroximately 75% of the value at its highest point.
Also, another loss for Dolt 45 in court.
Gretchen
That Spanish-speaking preschool story is my favorite. If nobody at the school speaks English, how did they tell them they needed to hire a translator? Or did these English-speaking teachers just not plan to teach the 3 year olds any English, for reasons?
This Haitian story is really dangerous. Here in Kansas we have a lot of immigrants working in meat-packing, because, guess what, Americans don’t want to do that work. There were a lot of Somali workers living in Garden City, and 3 militia types planned to bomb an apartment building that housed 120 Somalis. Fortunately they were caught before they carried out the plot and are facing life in prison. To have the potential VP of the US deliberately trying to stir up that kind of hatred is horrifying.
Chet Murthy
@Gretchen: i remember during the pandemic there were new stories about the meat packing plants. And it was clear then that they employed larger numbers of immigrants, especially refugees. Because those peopleDon’t have any choices and so they’re willing to take these jobs. And back then it was about the horrible working conditions And how so many people were getting covid because of those conditions.
It’s bad enough that these jobs don’t have decent working conditions, so only people with no other choices will take the work, but then these racists have to burn down their housing? That’s insane.
NotMax
FYI. Dreadful.
Gretchen
@Mai Naem mobile: TFG is known for getting a kick out of humiliating people who want something from him. Remember that photo of Romney at dinner with him trying to get chosen for Secretary of State? My guess is that TFG regrets choosing Vance and is deliberately sending him places with no advance work so he looks like an idiot, like that donut shop.
HumboldtBlue
@JoyceH:
Huh
barbequebob
Late to this but,
Apparently some 17th century English colonists compared the meat of wild deer fawns favourably to that of spaniel puppies that they were familair with eating
“Writing about deer, William Wood, chronicler of life in the
Massachusetts Bay Colony from 1629 to 1633, observed: “their
flesh is as good as Beefe”_(1634/1968, p. 21). John Josselyn, an
early student of natural history, compared the taste of venison eaten
in the New World with that of English deer meat and other meats:
“their flesh is not dry like Deers flesh, but moist and luscious
somewhat like Horse flesh (as they judge that have tasted of both)
but very wholesome. The flesh of their Fawns is an incomparable
dish, beyond the flesh of an Affes Foal so highly esteemed by the
Romans, or that of Young Spaniel Puppies so much cried up in
our days in France and England” (1672/1865, p. 19).”
From CONTINUITY AND CHANGE IN THE
FOOD HABITS OF THE SEVENTEENTHCENTURY
ENGLISH COLONISTS IN
PLYMOUTH AND MASSACHUSETTS BAY
JULIAN B. FISCHER1, LAURA H. McARTHUR1 and
JAMES B. PETERSEN2*
1Environmental Program and Department of Nutritional Sciences,
University of Vermont, Burlington, VT 05405; 2Archaeology
Research Center, University of Maine at Farmington, Farmington,
ME 04938
Published in Ecology of Food and Nutrition, Vol. 36, pp. 65-93 © 1997 OPA (Overseas Publishers Association)
Reprints available directly from the publisher Amsterdam B.V. Published by The Netherlands
Photocopying permitted by license only under license by Gordon and Breach Science Publishers
Printed in Malaysia
Citizen Alan
@Chris: The couch thing was a joke, but it had legs. The fact that couch fucker doesn’t consider women to be functionally human and believes they have no purpose in life except to pop out babies or to take care of the babies that younger women have popped out is absolutely true, but no one in the media cares about it. So yeah, I’m gonna keep calling him a couch fucker.
NotMax
@Citizen Alan
Alleged couch fucker.
//
K-Mo
https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2024/04/dominican-republic-must-stop-racist-immigration-policies/
HumboldtBlue
@JoyceH:
Uitlander
John Revolta
@HumboldtBlue: Ausländer n. German: foreigner https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/german-english/auslander
Tony Jay
Birdie
It seems like most the Republicans posting about this are doing it as a “joke”, waiting for us to get offended so they can make some comment about couches.
The sad thing is that this Republican joke is racist and boring (the “same old tired playbook” as MVP so accurately said). They haven’t gotten any new material since the 80s and it shows.
sab
I love my state (Ohio) but my God
somelots of us are are truly vile human beings. We voted for this guy when Tim Ryan was the alternative. That still just boggles my mind.Jay
@Birdie:
Well, it’s no caravans,…………………………
Anne Laurie
Also, ‘barbarous / barbaric’ is literally ‘what the filthy, non-Greek-speaking non-citizens do’.
“They don’t even have real *language*, they just go bar-bar-bar at each other!”
satby
@Lacuna Synecdoche: of course it does.
The classics live forever.
TBone
@Gin & Tonic: 😆
It is so old, unimaginative, and stupid that I’ve been thinking this whole time reading this “Does this sort of thing still work on the Russian people?” Pooty really jumps the shark every chance he gets, one stupid stunt after another.
He is not a smart man if this is the best he can do. Foisting Donvict upon us again was really lame.
TBone
@HumboldtBlue: thank you for that broad smile 😊 and giggle!
“I’m giving out free slaps.”
Suzanne
Rod Dreher fell for the Haitians-eating-pets story and posted the whiniest, most self-indulgent nonsense about it. He wonders why we hate him and people like him. It’s because you’re a racist dumbass, Rod.
Rusty
@Mai Naem mobile: Don’t feel sorry for her, she is as right wing as JD. Yale undergrad and Yale law school, clerked for Kavanaugh and for Roberts on the Supreme Court. At Yale, she and JD started a discussion group on the decline of white society. Two terrible people together.
Baud
@Rusty:
Then she married one of the causes of tbat decline.
Baud
FWIW, the couch story isn’t directed at some innocent third party and doesn’t trigger the lizard brain of racists.
TBone
@Suzanne: 😆
TBone
Letterman: Top Ten Things That Sound Cool When Spoken By James Earl Jones
https://youtu.be/flFYwiAUpq8
MagdaInBlack
@TBone: “Old, unimaginative and stupid” sure seems to work on a certain bunch of white folk in this country.
Good Morning 🌻
TBone
@MagdaInBlack: good morning my dear! I read a brain imaging study done back in the 2010s that said conservatives make more use of their amygdalae than liberals (we use more grey matter).
I just saw an anti-Kamala ad on TV and now my rock band name is:
The Dangerous Liberals!
ETA I don’t know/care if the study was wrong or has been updated, so please nobody @ me – I’m all out of fucks to give about my opinions and examples being worthless. C’est la vie!
MagdaInBlack
@TBone: Well, Baud did remind me yesterday that (some) white people are easy to scare, so that makes sense
Eta: personally, my give-a-fuks are out of stock, but my fuk you’s are in full supply.
TBone
@MagdaInBlack: 😍😎
Steve in the ATL
@Baud: zing!
Booger
@Chris: I like the way you couched your response.
Matt McIrvin
It’s worth saying at this point, all the Dominicans I’ve heard an opinion from hate Trump and Trump was hating on them last time around–I remember when he was campaigning around here and he talked about Lawrence, Mass. like it was a doorway to hell with demons crawling out.
But I guess there are always some people who’ll fall for someone who shit-talks about people they hate, even if that guy is a stone certainty to turn on them next.
Booger
TBone
Morning mood music for the masses. Word of the Day:
Badass
https://youtu.be/69jUwYWxens
AM in NC
The PBS News Hour did a story on this last night and the reporter interviewed a local factory owner who basically said, the Haitian immigrants are hard workers who show up on time every day and get the job done, and that wasn’t what we got with the native born workers before.
And then they interviewed a guy who was leading the opposition to the immigrants coming to town where he complained about the new arrivals being bussed in and sucking up all the social services that rightfully belong to the whites, er, locals. He assured us that he wasn’t racist, though.
TBone
Hubby, watching Morning Joe hosts discuss the latest “salvo”:
“I can’t believe America is this fucking stupid.”
*shakes his head sadly
Baud
@AM in NC:
Protecting the locals from socialism.
TBone
@Baud: 😆
Baud
Anywho, agree with Gin & Tonic. Sounds like Putin et al. are trying to manipulate the focus of tonight’s debate, with media assistance. I’m sure Harris will handle it well.
raven
@TBone: Funny, I had a cervical mri and they found some “abnormalities” and now will have a brain mri!
satby
Thomas Zimmer “Liz Cheney and the Problem of the Anti-Trump Republicans”
Princess
Ever since RFK joined the Republicans they’ve all been fantasizing about eating dog. It’s all projection with those weirdos, all of it.
TBone
Why is JV Pantzed all alone in the hotel swimming pool with his shirt on? Wrong answers only! 😆
https://crooksandliars.com/2024/09/weirdo-jd-vance-even-acts-weird-when-alone
Secret Service has the right answers, but deleted them.
TBone
@satby: not gonna engage with that until after Election Day. Until then, I don’t care who it is, as long as they vote Dem.
The Thin Black Duke
@TBone: All I want from these cretins is their vote. When Kamala wins the presidency, I have no problem slamming the door in Liz Cheney’s face afterwards.
TBone
@raven: oh dear, I’m hoping for a positive outcome! I really enjoy your company here. If you are comfortable sharing details, please do.
I too have had an abnormal brain scan some years back (neurodegenerative Lyme) but I don’t give it much weight/thought because there are bigger concerns in my life and whoopee! we’re all gonna die. (Explains a lot, huh? 😉)
Your attitude is half the battle, keep yer chin up!
TBone
@The Thin Black Duke: 🎯 Uncle Ebenezer shared a post to this effect yesterday (focus on the true enemy right now) that I wish I’d saved.
Baud
@raven:
You have a cervix?
Baud
Worrying about the Cheneys stems from the assumption that Dems are weak.
There go two miscreants
@Urza: Penzey’s stores in Rockville, MD and Fairfax VA.
TBone
@raven: PS make sure you’re not allergic to the dye if they’re injecting it for contrast.
raven
@TBone: I don’t really know. I’ve had mobility issues since I retired five years ago but haven’t gotten any kind of solid diagnosis. I went to my neuro looking at the possibility of “parkisonism” for and agent orange claim. They said I didn’t have either parkinson’s or parkisonism but thought a cervical mri was in order. The google isn’t telling me much except MS is a possibility . I’m doing fine otherwise.
TBone
@Baud: yes! Good eye!
Ken
@TBone: It would be inappropriate to speculate that he’s hiding a third nipple, or the Devil’s Mark. More likely he just has man-boobs, like about 60% of American males.
Betty Cracker
I’ve heard immigration scaremongering all my life but never the rumor that Haitians eat pets. That accusation was leveled at Asians instead.
The most awkward anti-immigrant period I personally witnessed was in the aftermath of the Mariel Boatlift. I was a kid when it happened, but l remember the rumors passed around at school about the new arrivals all being insane criminals.
It was especially weird because the migrants had fled Cuba, and we already had a well established and widely accepted (even by crackers) Cuban exile community. Some of them were the worst offenders in the scaremongering.
MagdaInBlack
@Ken: A wet t-shirt is probably not the best way to camouflage that area. Just sayin’
TBone
@raven: that’s a real boondoggle, there are so many differential diagnoses to rule out. One thing I’ve learned over these many years of visiting specialists is to listen to your own intuitive reasoning – it’s your body and no one knows it like you do. Can you remember exactly how/when/where it started? Any fevers, or falls, or other exposures or anything else abnormal that happened? It is so hard to separate out the sequence of events looking back. But if it appeared out of the blue, insist that!
I know Agent Orange killed my stepdad, but I could never prove it. How does one go about doing that? There has to be a success story out there somewhere. Are you any good at medical jargon so you could read records online?
TBone
@MagdaInBlack: 😆
TBone
@Ken: the xitter responses are 🔥😆
I like yours too!
Mark of the Devil! 🤘
He is so fucked running around here in PA in circles 😎 spinning wheels
Baud
@Betty Cracker:
Ain’t nothing new under the sun.
satby
@Baud: Superficially, yes. But, since clearly no one read the piece (and Zimmer is a German academic who studies fascism) the full post was about a world-wide struggle against authoritarianism, and how the US election is playing out against that.
Sorry to bore people.
Ken
@NotMax: That’s sounding a lot like Jarndyce and Jarndyce from Dickens’ Bleak House, and I find myself rooting for the attorneys.
(J and J was a fictional probate case where the inheritors squabbled over the money for so long, it was all eaten up by legal costs.)
TBone
@satby: sorry! I don’t like it when that happens to me (no one reads the piece, just the headline) and that IS a major concern that deserves focus! Sometimes you have to lead horses to water by giving a short description and/or quoting from the article to pique interest, something that WG frequently reminded me because I’d forget so often. My apologies!
You did give a quote, but I didn’t see anything that pointed to the worldwide struggle. I read today that German Chancellor is being a flip flopping dick to Ukraine and that was concerning.
Ken
@MagdaInBlack: There are fitted undershirts which shape and sculpt the chest area so it looks like the man has well-developed pecs instead of flab. Man-bras, in other words.
comrade scotts agenda of rage
@David 🐝KHive🐝 Koch:
It wouldn’t kill them but we should start seeing 3-eyed ducks any day now.
Raven
@TBone: Besides breaking my back in 1975 and shattering my left leg in 62 I don’t have much! I did have a stroke 6 years ago.
TBone
@Ken: and Vanity, thy name is woman! just died of laughter!
MagdaInBlack
@Ken: He did not choose one of those tho.
Most likely it has to do with avoiding sun-burn
( there, I gave the weirdo/freak an out)
comrade scotts agenda of rage
@NotMax:
Looks like the culprit has also died from burns resulting in the attack:
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/article/2024/sep/10/former-partner-accused-of-killing-rebecca-cheptegei-dies-in-hospital-from-burns
So sad for her and her children. But the article highlights the danger female Kenyan athletes face. Sheesh, as if what they’re trying to do isn’t hard enough.
TBone
@Raven: now you’re getting somewhere – nerve damage
willshould show up if that’s the cause. If they still come up empty, start looking elsewhere. Didn’t anyone follow up after stroke? Jeez…Matt McIrvin
@Betty Cracker: The Tehran hostage crisis, the first Gulf War and the whole post-9/11 period were incredibly tough times to have any kind of Middle Eastern or Central Asian ethnicity. I recall seeing historical polls about attitudes toward immigration that just showed xenophobia spiking to an incredible degree after 9/11.
And one of the first things that happened when COVID hit was a wave of hate toward East Asians. (To the point that one of the knocks on liberals was that they cared more about not being racist than about protecting people from disease–which was kind of at odds with the right-wing noise machine also deciding COVID was no big deal.)
Spanky
@Baud:
It’s all in his head.
Best of luck on the upcoming mri, raven!
Anne Laurie
Serious answer (sorry): He’s outside in the summer in San Diego. Forget skin cancer, that’s a third-degree-sunburn-in-15-minutes situation!
Because Vance can afford it, that might actually be one of the new hi-tech sunproof Swim without fear! shirts sporting-good stores sell these days. (I always relied on a coating of sunscreen *under* my cotton t-shirt… )
gene108
If Trump wins the deportations will happen, no matter how many people say it’s logistically impossible.
Trump and the people he’ll hire aren’t detail oriented people. They will round up millions of people they think are foreign and stick them somewhere. Could just be an open barbed wire enclosed encampment open to the elements, but they will do it.
Plus, the people worried about obeying court orders, from the last Trump administration, will not be hired. There will be no restraints.
Raven
@TBone: Oh yeah, lots of follow-up! It was a lacunar stroke that impacted my vision otherwise I might have never known I had it. The mobility stuff started a year later and I’ve been following up ever since.
TBone
@Anne Laurie: I had to take high dose doxycycline for a long while – there was no amount of sunscreen or clothing that could protect me from the sizzle. I can relate! But I was under the impression that weirdo was being left to his own devices here in Pennsylvania because swing state so important. He’s in Cali?
Raven
@Spanky: tanks!
TBone
@Raven: good!!! I’m glad your journey is being overseen by competent medical people, that’s crucial. I feel a lot better for you now. Not great, but better!
Your condition has been given a name (LACS) so I’m looking at it:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK563216/
Preliminarily (could you have had more than one and not know it):
gene108
@Matt McIrvin:
That was 100% on Donald Trump and Republicans for hyping conspiracy theories about a lab leak, and calling it the “China flu”. Fuckers got people hurt and killed.
TBone
@gene108: 🎯
Matt McIrvin
@gene108: What depressed me about that was the near-total disjunction between the scientific community and the security/intelligence community: the former kept saying that while the lab leak COULD have happened, there was zero evidence for it and plenty of evidence for other mechanisms, while the latter were almost unanimously convinced it was a lab leak. And since it was credentialed experts vs. experts the story could never die.
The lab leak was one of those “motte and bailey” stories too: the respectable version was that it was some kind of accident associated with disease research, but what gave the story legs was wacky bullshit about Chinese bioweapons tailored to kill white people and leave Asians standing, etc.
Raven
@TBone: ugh!
lowtechcyclist
I’d love to ask Vance what his religion says about bearing false witness.
Kay
@AM in NC:
Haitians are really hard workers, in my experience. Local employers here actually send a bus to bring them in from Toledo every day. My local clients have worked with them and have nothing but good things to say about them. Unfortunately there’s a housing crisis in Toledo- like everywhere else- so many of them are living in “residence motels” with their children.
Kay
Maybe people who actually live in Ohio could educate JD Vance and Elon Musk about how we have really low unemployment and a booming economy so we’re relying on Haitian workers even out in the rural counties.
This is a 75% Trump county. My clients. Who are working with Haitians every day and say they’re hard workers and no problem. So WTF can they be thinking listening to this? They have personal experience that contradicts what Trump and Vance and Musk say. It’s just unbelievable what a cult the Right is.
catclub
@frosty: But wasn’t the cat in the hat?
Betty
@Jay: Families helping families. Is that something like family values?
fancycwabs
I heard Haitian immigrants sexually assaulted a woman in a Bergdorf-Goodman dressing room.
Gin & Tonic
In the very, very early days of the AIDS epidemic in NYC, I remember clearly that media and possibly public-health authorities were identifying three at-risk groups, all “H” – homosexuals, heroin users and Haitians. To this day I don’t know why the Haitians.
Baud
@Gin & Tonic:
I thought it was because AIDS was more prevalent there, but given what I know about propaganda now, that could have been all made up.
Matt McIrvin
@Baud: Haiti did have the earliest large HIV/AIDS outbreak outside of Africa, so it would have been a reasonable risk factor to consider at the time.
Kayla Rudbek
@Anne Laurie: that’s what UPF 50 rash guards are for. But nowadays I can’t find any with a proper high neck. I don’t want a t-shirt style, I want a mock turtleneck so that I don’t look like a literal redneck after being on the water. Cycling jerseys generally have enough of a back collar (at least the ones I have) that my poor sunscreen application can handle the sun.
S Cerevisiae
@Betty Cracker: I am convinced that Felonious D thinks about immigration he pictures the opening scenes of Scarface.
Greebe
@Chet Murthy: @24
i just wanted to thank you for linking to Timothy Snyder’s YouTube channel. What a great resource! Much to think about i throughout his TS Speaks series. I’m looking forward to listening to all of them.
Mark L.
Humans, we move stuff around with us. Civil War vets brought their pet fox squirrels (pets until they dropped them into the stew pot!) with them to Westwood VA Center (in the news now) in 1904. They have migrated as far as Santa Barbara in the 100 plus years they have been here. Some of us humans eat animals. Even cute ones. I have the last edition of Joy Of Cooking that shows how to butcher a squirrel. I have never eaten a squirrel. I have eaten many ducks.
Liminal Owl
@zhena gogolia: The Cyrillic showed up perfectly on my screen, FWIW.
Liminal Owl
(accidental double-post, feel free to delete)
Liminal Owl
@NotMax: I learned this one in kindergarten!
Johnny Rebec’s Machine
Liminal Owl
I see Ishiyama got there first.
(The version I learned was different, within the Folk Process norms. It bothered me fir months. And why did my kindergarten teacher put that one, and Songs of Safety, and I don’t remember what else, on the class record player? During NAP TIME?!)