You can rationalize all you like, but if you’re on board with this man and his allies then you’re embracing white supremacy. It’s not as if he’s coy about it. You’ll never wash that stink off of you. https://t.co/GLzB2xaKMF
— Jean-Michel Connard 좆됐어 (@torriangray) September 13, 2024
Pretty clear TFG’s handlers, such as they are, have decided there’s no point in trying to sanewash him while he recovers from the ego-drubbing Vice President Harris delivered on Tuesday. So they shipped him off to beautiful broken Arizona, and let Kari Lake & Laura Loomer battle it out for top position as his emotional support human…
From 2 days ago. It was the plan.https://t.co/WS6CiySdGg
— Kim Wexler's Ponytail ?????? (@MadisonKittay) September 13, 2024
E.J. Montini, of the Arizona Republic — “Trump campaign has a not-so-funny plan to win Arizona with racist jokes”:
… The New Yorker magazine has an article out this week describing how Trump’s plan to win Arizona in the upcoming presidential election has been “outsourced to Turning Point Action.”
And why not?
As longtime political consultant Chuck Coughlin told the New Yorker, “There is no Republican Party in Arizona. It’s been hijacked. Turning Point Action is the Republican Party for Arizona. It has been taken over from the inside out.”
The article describes how the group has decided that the best way to secure Arizona for Trump is a strategy directed “almost exclusively on reaching voters who are already primed to side with MAGA.”
Forget about everyone else.
Given that, it’s as if Kirk and his pals see no problem having a little racist “fun.” As if any sane person would call it that…
Racism is funny to these guys? Racism is a campaign strategy?
It reminds me of what some people say about the political climate in Arizona: It’s a dry hate.
“The migrants are walking off with the town's geese. They've taken the geese. You know where the geese are in the park, in the lake, and even walking off with their pets. My dog's been taken. My dog's gone.”
Anyone who believes this lie is in a cult.
— CALL TO ACTIVISM (@CalltoActivism) September 13, 2024
Wow…. Donald Trump’s rally in Tucson, Arizona was a mess.
Bro was totally slurry and as utterly incoherent he’s ever been.
Let’s recap it:
JD Vance is nowhere to be found. Bro hasn’t been invited to a rally in a while. Telling.
He starts by hyping up the crowd despite the… pic.twitter.com/sIJo6suYbd
— Art Candee ???? (@ArtCandee) September 13, 2024
… He starts by hyping up the crowd despite the Linda Ronstadt Music Hall only having a capacity for 2195 people. There were empty seats too. In comparison, VP Harris had 8600 people at her rally today.
You could tell his tiny crowd size was bothering him.
He claimed he had a “monumental victory” against VP Harris in the debate. Sure, bro…
He said she “spewed lies.” Pure projection.
He whined about Linsey Davis and David Muir.
He lied about the abortion after birth thing again, disgusting.
He’s giggling at his own jokes. I think he’s on something. This is super weird.
He called VP Kamala Harris “the leader of the movement Defund the Police.” Uh, no.
He says Project 2025 “never had my authorization.” He implemented over 2/3 of their policies in 2017.
He says that crime is so much worse now than when he was in office. False. Crime has gone down since the spike when he was POTUS.
He falls back on his Twitter polls as proof that he “won the debate.” Nah, bro.
He seems to think that his debate with Biden counts as debating Harris. Not the case…
He’s slurring calling Harris and Tim Walz “weird.” He clearly doesn’t like being called weird himself, so we should keep doing it. A lot.
He repeats that he won’t do a “third debate” because it’s “too late” since early voting has already started. Donald Trump is a chicken.
He goes on an angry rant about immigrants and migrants…
He whines that VP Harris smiled during the debate. Bro, she was LAUGHING AT YOU.
He’s pushing lies about Springfield, Ohio. FAFO in a swing state, bro. I can’t wait for Haitians to help flip Florida…
He had issues saying “industry,” “Snopes” (he called it “Snoops”), “confiscation,” “notice,” “and,” “interest,” “Russia,” “jokingly,” and “woman.”
The cognitive decline is fierce…
He’s bragging about crowd size again. He’s also saying he did 7 rallies in 2 days. He did not.
He’s now asking how many rallies Biden would do…he keeps forgetting who he’s running against.
He tries to get the crowd excited and it sounded like less than 50 people were clapping. Sad…
He’s crying about Biden again. Yikes. Bro’s mind is mashed potatoes.He’s back talking about Venezuelans with guns and he’s trying to do math. No joke.
He claims Harris is flying in migrants on jets.
He whines about the Forbes 400 and claims Forbes “isn’t doing so well.” He’s still butthurt that they dropped him from their list…
He’s crying about Biden not talking to Putin…
Donald says he’s going to save the average person in Arizona “$800 and $1000 a month” on their mortgages. Is he planning on giving away free homes? Bro is straight up lying.
He arbitrarily says he’s going to cut their power bills by 50% in the first year. How do people believe this absolute bullsh*.t?…
He says he’s going to cut the cost of new homes by 30-50%. Is he gonna give away land for free? FFS. Bro is mental.
Ah. He just said he’s going to open up federal land for “large scale housing development.” Great. Let’s turn Yellowstone into a strip mall while we’re at it.
He’s complaining that the media covers his inability to say words and calling him “cognitively impaired.” The media genuinely needs to call this out…
He asked “why wouldn’t they like me” about women. UHHHHHHHH. How much time do you have, Donald?
He said women want choice and that he’s for choice. But he’s talking about school choice, not bodily autonomy. I hate this man…
He claims he took in more money from the IRS after he cut taxes for the wealthy, “by a lot.” Not true. Our national debt was skyrocketing under him even prior to the pandemic.
The crowd cheers the loudest for his hateful speech about transgender people…
He’s begging people to get their friends to vote. He knows he’s gonna lose…
This man is one giant ball of hatred and we need this cancerous negativity removed from our society.
Is the media gonna cover any of this or nah?
(Complete recap at the link.)
Trump: “Pennsylvania, remember this when you have to go to vote”
(He is in Arizona) pic.twitter.com/lMEJwwvQ3I
— Kamala HQ (@KamalaHQ) September 12, 2024
On The Road – Captain C – Verzetsmuseum (Resistance Museum) — Amsterdam, October 2024. Part 1
H.E.Wolf
Like Darth Vader, he exudes a foul stench – and I am speaking of a palpable rottenness of the soul which is far more repulsive than a physical odor.
Unlike Darth Vader, he will probably not have a redemptive moment with which to conclude his life.
H.E.Wolf
… I have confidence that a majority of Arizonans will steer clear of his miasma, come November.
Four Directions’ GOTV outreach to Native American voters in AZ may make the numerical difference in a Democratic victory there. I’m glad Balloon Juice is supporting their effort!
TBone
Loomer will be hastening The Denouement. It’s been going too slowly, so the injection of vile harpy straight into what’s left of his brain is actually doing us a service in a twisted way. The utter depravity can no longer be sanewashed or ignored, but has crawled out into the direct sunlight for all to see the horrid pustules glistening and leaking orange pus all over our sidewalks. Like the track left by a slug, only smellier, the trail leads to Loomer. He chose unwisely, as always.
MagdaInBlack
I dunno, I think MSNBC should have shown the whole thing. Let them see him at his finest. More exposure of his lunacy is better.
Baud
AZ has voted blue lately because the Republicans have become more crazy. So not a great strategy. But maybe he has polling that the hard core racists are no longer enthused.
TBone
Penzey’s spicy palate cleanser update:
https://crooksandliars.com/2024/09/maga-cant-handle-spice-penzeys-bringing
Baud
The biggest thing racists hate is when we call them racist.
Can Trump convince them to like being called racist? That’s what he’s banking on.
waspuppet
The lies are only going to get bigger. He knows his crowds will believe anything he says and no one else will. Our wealthy media class is going to have to work extra hard to drag their fictional Donald Trump over the finish line. And to make sure they never ask another Republican whether they still support this moaning, flailing mess of a human being.
I think the underrated important day coming up is next week when Trump can sell his shares in his Play-Skool Twitter. He might become a billionaire for the first time in his life*, but everyone else will lose their shirts. No one seems to be acting like that might affect his political support, but I think it might.
*(It depends how much goes straight out the back door to Putin, MBS and the Chinese, and we’ll never fully know that.)
TBone
Keep your chin up musical antidote
https://youtu.be/SxX6pYrvGy4
Falling Diphthong
I honestly think one problem with addressing Harris and Walz by name is that their names have S sounds, and that seems to make the slurring more pronounced. He wants to face Joe Biden, the man with no S sounds.
MagdaInBlack
@TBone: Nuthin’ like a little Nina with my coffee ❤️
Baud
@Falling Diphthong:
He’s just turning into a gollum.
VeniceRiley
And he’s still obsessed with the “weird” tag. As I said on Xhitter, She’s living rent free in the withered meat between his ears.
hueyplong
His decline is noticeable. It’s not going to get better. It’s going to get worse. The greatly increased stress caused by Tuesday’s beatdown is going to accelerate it. Standing at a podium at his
ralliesgatherings, he’s going to see how shrunken and less fired up his “crowds” are and how much more difficult it is for them to ignore total gibberish when it takes up a greater percentage of his “speech” and becomes less conducive to “translation” into something sensible. Networks, for whom ghoulishness is a part of the DNA, won’t be able to resist being in place to have good shots of the more and more likely catastrophic “event” at one of his “speeches.”The prominent names now are Charlie Kirk and Laura Loomer. The supposedly “disciplined campaign” run by LaCivita and Wiles is far enough in the rear-view mirror that I had to remind myself of one of those two names.
We’ve gone from “Biden is old” to dark furriners STEALING AND EATING YOUR PETS. Admit it, you’re curious as to how they’ll top that and the cool thing is that you’ll soon find out. We’re about to be treated to synergistic Schadenfreude and I’m here for every single moment of it.
Yes, it’s going to be close, blah, blah. Yes, everyone must work, encourage, vote. But I’m going to drink Trump’s meltdown in shots.
Xentik
Someone over at Kos suggested that the most damage Harris did at the debate was to mock his rallies, their sizes and how people get bored and leave. They said that he wouldn’t be able to hold a rally again without thinking those things, and that it would ruin his ability to use them as a safe space.
Reading that summary above, I think they’re right. I think he’s going to end up in a doom spiral of decompensation, flailing and whining all the way to election day.
TBone
@MagdaInBlack: great day in the morning to you!
Ken
So did Frank Luntz. Actually IIRC Luntz complained that her face was too expressive and said she should control it better. (Can’t find the original now, I saw it on bluesky I think.) I should become a political consultant, I can give bad and stupid advice too.
Sanjeevs
So his tack to the center is gong great then.
K-Mo
@TBone: Good stuff, thanks!
TBone
@K-Mo: 💙 Leave ’em with the blues!
Baud
@Ken:
It’s not advice. It’s propaganda. They’re trying to plant ideas in people’s heads in the hopes of changing the conversation about the debate.
TBone
@Sanjeevs: his sense of direction is skewed because his compass always points toward the Kremlin.
K-Mo
TFG wants headlines besides “Trump taken down by Harris” and will do anything he can to create them. MSM ignoring him while bloggers document the insanity is just right.
Baud
@TBone:
The Kremlin is his Mecca.
TBone
I’m reposting this because my hometown girl is on point! Wanda love!
https://x.com/maddenifico/status/1834274585836949875
😁 Honorary DelConian
TBone
@Baud: 😍👍
MagdaInBlack
@Ken: Always with the policing of women’s expressions and voices.
“Wipe that look off your face, young lady”
“I don’t care for your tone, young lady”
Fuk all that.
TBone
@K-Mo: yes! Someone will immolate today, it’s anyone’s guess who will sacrifice themself at the alter of the flaming clown this time. Possibly several.
The Audacity of Krope
💩.
TBone
@The Audacity of Krope: 😆 but how do you really feel?
Ken
@Xentik: Expanding on that, I think the moderators did some damage with their corrections. He hates being told he’s wrong, and he’s going to keep making the same claims — the pets story in particular.
Frankensteinbeck
@TBone:
See, this is why I wanted the debate. The networks felt obligated to air Trump’s actual words, and now the secret is out that Trump isn’t quirky and combative, he’s Stupid Hitler. The sanewashing works. A whole lot of people didn’t know! Now it’s been rubbed in their face.
@hueyplong:
Republicans hate a loser. First DeSantis and then the relentless media drumbeat that Biden was losing managed to partly rehabilitate Trump, but now he’s bathed in loser stink. A champion of white supremacy who’s not going to win isn’t much good to his racist base. It’s definitely going to reduce enthusiasm.
The Audacity of Krope
Like 4 PM and the weekend can’t get here fast enough. You?
TBone
Nobody here’s mama raised any quitters or fools. Remember where we came from and sally forth!
TBone
@The Audacity of Krope: 😆 I’m all in on laughter and mocktivism and joy! Thank you for your contributions to the cause.
TBone
@MagdaInBlack: they truly don’t know what they’ve messed with yet.
The Stinkeye has only just begun.
Ramalama
@Baud: More like his Meka Leka Hi Meka Hiney Ho
MagdaInBlack
@TBone: Yeah, ain’t it great 😉🌻😊
TBone
@Frankensteinbeck: 💙
I was truly confident going in (I tried not to let on to that too much here but I bet people could tell 😆) and had to reassure my cousin in Michigan it would be okay to watch live. Then her son got to her with texts from his dorm house party during, and we all had a great time!
p.a.
Stormfront in The Boys, “People like what I say. They just don’t like the word Nazi.”
MagdaInBlack
OT, But I still have not seen our Ozark Hillbilly posting.
Another Scott
Kamala HQ goes there with Taylor Swift
Nice.
Cheers,
Scott.
TBone
@MagdaInBlack: they just can’t (won’t) see what’s headed their way. I woke up feeling glorious. That’s rare and coveted and shall continue to keep me warm on these getting colder mornings. Warmth radiates! They are cold and slimy, always.
lowtechcyclist
Boy howdy, he’s gone straight to dark-skinned people raping and sodomizing your daughters. Can’t get much more racist than that.
I’m sure the MSM will find a way to skip past all that, because how the fuck can you clean it up?
And it’s funny (well, not funny at all, but YKWIM) how people on his side threaten all the time to rape women who piss them off. Apparently rape is A-OK when they do it. All the pussy are belong to white men, is how the MAGAts see it. The only problem they have with rape is when Blacks and dark-skinned furriners do it.
Baud
@MagdaInBlack:
Yep. Been about two weeks. Someone found a post on Aug 28th.
TBone
@Another Scott: excellent psyops!
Betty Cracker
@hueyplong: Josh Marshall at TPM has an interesting take on the “professional” Trump campaign run by LaCivita/Wiles vs. the feral displays from Trump and fringy followers like Loomer that constitute a second campaign entity. (Here’s a gift link.)
Marshall says both campaigns are running simultaneously and separately, with the LaCivita/Wiles org focusing on paid outreach in the swing states to raise issues where Trump has strength with low-info voters, i.e., the economy and border. Their exclusive aim is to try to pull in unaffiliated voters. The feral circus is all about pumping up the MAGA base.
There are inevitably collisions as Marshall notes. But it makes sense for the two halves of the campaign to operate separately. LaCivita/Wiles can’t control Trump’s big fat mouth. Nobody can.
hueyplong
@lowtechcyclist: I’d like them to highlight the fact that it’s an actual serial rapist of white women scaremongering about furriners raping the white women.
K-Mo
@Frankensteinbeck:
Yep. Only question is whether he goes the way of Raging Bull or Million Dollar Baby.
Baud
@Betty Cracker:
Thanks, media propaganda!
hueyplong
@Betty Cracker: That’s interesting and makes sense (from their perspective). The zone is going to be flooded as long as the money holds out (and it always has, one way or another).
Matt McIrvin
The thing that fucking terrifies me is that this might work. Just this open stoking of race hate. “Your black foreign neighbors are coming to eat your cats,” God, I know people that’s gonna work on. Yeah, they were gonna vote for Trump anyway, but.
And the fact that, out of the blue, they’ve decided to pick on a minority who were just not in the news at all up to this moment. Haitians are the big menace now? What the actual fuck? Haitians were not doing a goddamn thing to anyone. I guess it’s because the Democratic nominee is black and Afro-Caribbean, close enough…
Ken
@Another Scott: No! Taylor endorsed Trump! There was a picture that he posted on Truth Social and everything!
(I could swear I saw a Trump quote that suggested he believed that picture was real, but I may be thinking of a line in that Downfall parody.)
TBone
@Betty Cracker: Heather Cox Richardson highlighted that TPM today which is part of why the morning was so frickin’ glorious. I woke up with the word ‘navigation’ on my tongue and then figured out why.
K-Mo
@TBone: Totally organic, too. Reminiscent of Biden’s “That’s. . . stuff”
Spanky
@Baud: Quinerly knows him irl and I think can contact him. If someone sees her commenting, I hope they ask her to do a wellness check.
Ken
I don’t think they can say that; IIRC he wasn’t convicted of rape because his vile acts didn’t meet the New York statute. But I think it’s legally safe to say “and if anyone knows about sexual assault of white women, it’s Donald Trump”.
TBone
@K-Mo: 👍 glorious
Frankensteinbeck
@lowtechcyclist:
Conservatives have made the point repeatedly that they don’t just not require consent. They don’t understand it. They think it’s a meaningless quibble and has nothing to do with whether sex is morally okay. So yeah, skin color and property rights of who those women belong to is the issue here.
The Audacity of Krope
@TBone: Mocktivism. I like that.
TBone
@The Audacity of Krope: it’s been tested and proven to work IRL against fascist neoNazis. They shrink when we laugh right in their faces.
TBone
@Ramalama: thank you! I used to get up on Saturday mornings no matter how hung just to watch that! 😍
p.a.
@Matt McIrvin:
The Wheel of Misfortune spins and today the pointer lands on… Haiti!
Curiously, Ohio’s Haitians? Because of one crummy tRumpist’s X rant? There’s tRumpist X rants everywhere. Are they afeared Ohio is in play?
Baud
Kamala cooking photo, via reddit
The Audacity of Krope
The Wheel of Misfortune pays too much goddamned attention to Haiti.
Anyway
@Baud: I think WG/AL has Ozark’s contact info.
ETA coffee
Baud
@Matt McIrvin:
Not really working then. That’d be like if Harris did nothing but campaign on Balloon Juice.
TBone
@Baud: I sent that across the nation yesterday 😆 and now some are questioning my taste.
Baud
I thought Martin was just on vacation, but he’s also been missing for a good long while.
The Audacity of Krope
Balloon Juice contracts are too onerous. I’m a freelance jackal and loving every minute.
TBone
@Baud: also Raven. I opened my big mouth about health issues and haven’t seen him since and I feel horrible about it.
Anyone seen him or any other missing rockstar Jackals?
Betty Cracker
@Baud: Is media propaganda a bigger problem than baseline voter stupidity about how the economy works? I don’t know. It’s an intersectional challenge.
Baud
@TBone:
Huh? I’m pretty sure I’ve seen raven around recently.
TBone
@Betty Cracker: it’s the stupidity is my guess.
Anyway
@The Audacity of Krope: ha, caught it in time
TBone
@Baud: oh good! Thank you.
pluky
@Xentik: I saw the Kos post you mention, and thought “brilliant observation”. He’ll be like a junkie chasing an ever increasing dose in hopes of getting that good old high, with about as much success.
Shane in SLC
Wait—Trump spoke at Linda Ronstadt Music Hall the same week that Ronstadt endorsed Harris? That’s either some wonderful cosmic irony or Ronstadt is doing some seriously world-class trolling.
Geminid
@hueyplong: I was scanning around the radio yesterday and was reminded that Charlie Jirk* ended up inheriting Rush Limbaugh’s Noon to 3pm radio slot. Kirk lacks Limbaugh’s status among conservatives and the field is more fragmented than it used to be,, but this platform still has reach that complements Kirk’s organizing efforts.
* A fortuitous typo.
p.a.
@TBone: I think I’ve seen a raven post within the past few days.
A few days ago I in a dying thread I asked about felonious kootea (sp?), a frequent past commenter I have not seen in a while. Anyone have info?
Matt McIrvin
@p.a.: Yeah, that’s the other thing. The states where there are a lot of Haitians aren’t ones that are really in play… or so we thought. Do they think they’re in danger in Florida? They weren’t gonna carry Massachusetts or New York regardless. There’s some in Pennsylvania, but not very many.
Hmm… Maybe I’m looking at the wrong metric. I know the situation where xenophobic fear really spikes is when there aren’t that many of the feared group but their numbers are rapidly increasing. There are way fewer Haitians in Ohio than there are around here, but bigots were freaking out about them coming into Springfield. So you want places where delta x over x is large. Are some of those swing states?
I dunno, I’m probably overthinking “a racist says what”.
Splitting Image
Boy, every woman who has been told to “smile more” during the last sixty years is going to love him for that one.
rikyrah
Good Morning Everyone 😊 😊 😊
zhena gogolia
@MagdaInBlack: I agree.
Baud
@rikyrah:
Good morning.
Raven
@TBone: I’m fine.
Baud
@Matt McIrvin:
According to a reddit post, 300,000 Haitian voters in FL. Plus abortion on the ballot, and DeSantis is less popular, who knows?
The Audacity of Krope
@Anyway: Don’t worry. I preserved it for posterity.
Ken
But we’ve got a dental plan! Well, as much of a dental plan as most insurance provides. And there’s a profit-sharing arrangement, which admittedly at the moment is expense-sharing. But like AI, you’ve got to imagine what it might become in the distant future.
The Audacity of Krope
@Ken: 😂 😂 😂
Ken
It’s small but it may have been all they could afford. Tucson made them pay for the police protection and other city services in advance, since the campaign still owes money from a previous appearance.
Matt McIrvin
@Baud: This is going to be a turnout election, so preaching to the choir and getting them riled up is actually important.
Betty Cracker
@Shane in SLC: It’s the latter. Here’s Ronstadt’s statement in Instagram:
Baud
@Matt McIrvin:
Yes, but you said your friend was already voting for Trump. Is Trump convincing racists who were going to sit out the election to show up? I guess we’ll see.
JPL
CNN showed a comparison of trump talking about immiration in 2016 and a few nights ago…
link
TBone
@Raven: 💙
Baud
@Betty Cracker:
That’s good.
That people stopped caring about the kidnapping is one of the larger stains in a very stained society.
Baud
@JPL:
Summary? Worse or the same?
Geminid
@Baud: Martin was commenting prolifically right up until Harris chose Tim Walz instead of Pete Buttigieg for VP.
I think he’ll be back though. Martin disappeared for months after a late night thread where he got dog-piled over some Harry Potter-themed computer game that he and his daughter liked. Then he was back commenting good as new.
I sometimes wonder what happened to Jim Foolish Literalist, James E. Powell and Roger Moore.
Scout211
JPL
@Betty Cracker: We’ll find out what network carries his press conference today. Fox is not carrying all his rallies, in order to protect their viewership from his obvious slippage.
Phylllis
Haven’t read all the comments so someone may have already beaten me to it, but considering that geese are mean as hell and a fucking nuisance, what’s the problem?
TBone
Very Special Boy got the Very $pecial Treatment again 🤬
I don’t know the deets yet, just found this news…
https://www.reuters.com/legal/georgia-judge-dismisses-two-criminal-counts-against-trump-court-filing-shows-2024-09-12/
Baud
@Geminid:
I can’t believe he’s that much of a Buttgieger.
Phylllis
@TBone: I loves me some Wanda Sykes.
Baud
@Geminid:
Yeah, we’ve lost a lot of people over the past year.
TBone
@Phylllis: 💜
Ceci n est pas mon nym
“Pennsylvania, remember this.”
Oh we will, we will.
TBone
@Scout211: Niki Minaj’s friend’s cousin’s balls.
Raven
I emailed Ozark, I’ll let you know.
gvg
@TBone: He posted this week about former Gator head coach Spurrier saying it was insane anyone could go buy…I think AK-15’s? I don’t remember specific gun makes so forgive me if that detail is wrong, but it was interesting to me (a Gator). Raven is a rival Georgia Bulldog and normally wouldn’t link approvingly to a Gator story.
TBone
@Ceci n est pas mon nym: we will never be late or bring a knife to a gunfight. Grrrrrrrrrr take that name out your anus mouth, motherfucker.
JPL
@Baud: It’s worse. His racism is no longer hidden but in full view.
lowtechcyclist
@The Audacity of Krope:
That is unfortunately all too true.
Kay
@Matt McIrvin:
They picked Haitians because it WAS a large increase over a short period of time in that city – about 20k in a city of 60k over 6 years. That is big. Springfield had 80k people but like a lot of small Ohio cities in the “meth belt” (real term used by the OH AG) they lost population, were dying, and were down to 60k. No one dropped or sent them there (you didn’t say that but DeWine did). A large number of Haitians moved there and then more came from other places because there was plenty of manufacturing work (thanks Joe Biden) and affordable housing – the housing freed up by the shrinking of the city prior to their arrival.
The same thing has happened in south Toledo but Toledo is larger and Toledo has a long history of being welcoming to immigrants – the city that has Little Syria and welcomed more Syrians in 2017 knows a thing or two about bigotry.
Haitians are hard working (and church going – they’re primarily Catholic). This has been noticed by employers in Ohio – they actually bus Haitians up to where I live – 60 miles from Toledo – to staff poulty processing outfits. The fact that they’re successful as immigrants only adds to the white majory resentment of them.
But if it hadn’t have been Haitians it would have been some other group. Come on. They’ve been playing this same tactic every single cycle since 2014.
gene108
I went through the thread Aaron Rupar posted with clips from the speech. Trump says the Haitians in Springfield, OH are there illegally.
If he gets the right mass deportation goons in place, they’ll be deporting people they don’t like, irrespective of legal status.
TBone
@gvg: he’s in the room with us right now (look up!) 😆
Thank you for responding also too!
lowtechcyclist
@TBone:
They’ve got a point – if you didn’t have questionable taste, what would you be doing here? ;-)
Spanky
@Raven: I’m wondering if he’s been distracted by another storm hitting New Orleans.
TBone
@lowtechcyclist: I frickin’ love all youse guys
oldgold
Does the short fingered Vulgarian have a thang going on with Loomer? They must both know that it’s wrong, but it’s much too strong to let it go now. Holding hands, making all kinds of MAGA plans, while the jukebox plays their favorite song – Who Let the Dogs Out.
Kay
Just to remind everyone – JD Vance, the Catholic convert, is demonizing a primarily Catholic immigrant group.
A real scumbag, that guy. Absolute lowlife.
Enhanced Voting Techniques
@MagdaInBlack: I agree, the more the rest of the nation sees Trump talking the better as far as I am concerned.
Soprano2
@waspuppet: Not only that, he knows that the press literally doesn’t have time to cover all of the batshit crazy stuff he says, so he knows a lot of it will never be heard except by people at his rallies.
Kay
@gene108:
It’s a lie. They’re documented. They were brought in under a special program. Most of them were working or had businesses in Haiti. Also- they all speak English.
TBone
@oldgold: BLECH 🤮 brain bleach needed, stat!
Digby concurs:
https://digbysblog.net/2024/09/12/trumps-top-adviser/
Enhanced Voting Techniques
@Baud: it’s also a lame attempt to turn Harris’ strength into a vulnerability.
Soprano2
@Xentik: It wouldn’t surprise me at all if he had his security people try to prevent people from leaving before it’s over. I agree, he sustained a significant narcissistic injury at the debate; he may never get over it. I bet no one has spoken to him like that to his face since he was young. She’s not afraid of him, and he’s not used to people who aren’t afraid of him. Joe Biden was too polite to do what she did.
Betty Cracker
@Kay: Speaking of lowlifes (lowlives?), Rufo is offering “a bounty of $5,000” to anyone who can provide proof of Haitians eating cats in Springfield by Sunday. What could possibly go wrong? 🤔
lowtechcyclist
@Matt McIrvin:
I think so. In the vast majority of places people live, if you just look around, everything’s in pretty good shape. So the game is to convince people in those pretty-good-shape places that the U.S. is filled with cities and towns where everything is going to hell in a handbasket, and their town could be next.
They can stay away from the burnt-out ruins of Portland, but if Springfield, Ohio is turning into a disaster area, there’s no reason why their town couldn’t also be invaded by dark-skinned furriners who will commit atrocities.
TBone
@Betty Cracker: goddamn motherfucking cocksucking bastard.
I saw that yesterday and have since “toned it down” for you guys.
TBone
Digby AND James Fallows take on JV Pantzed.
https://digbysblog.net/2024/09/12/jd-vance-really-hates-america/
Baud
@Betty Cracker:
Geminid
@Baud: It might have been a coincidence. But Martin was convinced that Pete Buttigieg was by far the superior candidate because he would mobilize younger voters, so Walz would have been a disappointment.
Personally, I found that whole Buttigieg boom hilarious. I respect Pete Buttigieg’s abilities and accomplishments, but many Democrats are just gaga over the guy.
And it’s not like Buttegieg is trying to create a cult pf personality. He’s just being himself. Pete goes on a news program and does Pete and then white, college educated liberals swoon over him like Bobby Socksers swooning over the young Frank Sinatra. People are really hungry for stars.
p.a.
Waiting on the MSM’s “tRump’s Debate (& rally) Performance Shows He Is Not Qualified” takes in 3… 2… Bueller? Bueller?
And a pony!
Frankensteinbeck
@lowtechcyclist:
It’s still insane that they believe this, but they do. They’re not even trolling, they absolutely believe several major cities are basically burned to the ground because of the BLM marches.
Kay
@oldgold:
Imagine for a moment if Kamala Harris’s husband was never seen with her – basically resided in a different state than she did – and she took up with a male traveling companion 30 years younger that she was seen pawing and hanging all over in photographs?
You could hear the media screeching from your house.
It’s not just a double standard. It’s not in the same universe.
Baud
@Geminid:
Yeah, it’s not good. I’m going to have to choose candidates who have star power over substance in future primaries.
Eduardo
@Matt McIrvin: Haitians are very well liked in Florida. In 23 years I don’t recall to have heard anybody speaking ill of them. And I have heard all kind of racism/strong dislikes coming from all sides of the political spectrum. I live in South Florida!
Don’t think this is about them specifically but about them being immigrants and black.
Baud
@Frankensteinbeck:
People believe what they want to believe.
TBone
@Baud: is our cyberteam gonna prosecute? I am ever hopeful…
Enhanced Voting Techniques
My mother watched the debate and she said Trump tried to physically intimidate Harris. What clueless dumb ass; Harris was a DA for Alameda County in the 90’s. That is Oakland when it was the murder capital of the US. Oh yes, fat old trust fund baby is so scary.
Soprano2
@Baud: I agree, but I don’t think the message “she shouldn’t smile or laugh” will be successful. When he was ranting about people eating cats and dogs, or babbling about how she wants undocumented people in prisons to get free transgender operations, I think her expression and laughter spoke for most of the people who were watching and listening.
Michael Bersin
@Betty Cracker:
“…Is media propaganda a bigger problem than baseline voter stupidity about how the economy works? I don’t know. It’s an intersectional challenge.”
Same difference. Late night infomercial/rube with a phone and credit card. The tiny spray can for their bald spot arrives in the mail eight weeks later, postage due.
Dave
@p.a.: What’s amazing about “The Boys” possibly the least subtle show to air ever and they still had to basically put Homelander in a MAGA hat, an ill fitting suit, and a long red tie before they realized it was making fun of them. And a lot of them still think it was only the last season that it started this.
There is media illiteracy and then there is media illiteracy.
TBone
Today is Phineas T. Gage Day, for all who celebrate.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phineas_Gage
Yes I am from DelCo, why do you ask?
TBone
@Michael Bersin: 😆
lowtechcyclist
@Raven:
In the meantime, we can stop speculating on when your most recent post was. :-D
Eduardo
@Kay:
Everyone knows that in South Florida. Hard workers, nice people, happy to be doing any honest job because that beats the hell out of what they left in Haiti and also helps so much the relatives in the island. Plus it is damn difficult for most of them to come here, so you have a self-selected tough, resilient bunch.
Soprano2
@p.a.: Well, it’s causing problems in my Springfield too.
Immigrants aren’t eating dogs in Springfield (MO), despite confusion after presidential debate
There used to be a lot of joking around here about “cashew kitty”, which was a slur against Asian people who ran Chinese restaurants.
lowtechcyclist
@Kay:
And for bonus points, bearing false witness against them. I’m sure the Catholics still regard that as one of the big ‘thou shalt not’s.
TS
And I’m furious, angry, upset and will detest him forever for calling any immigrant an alien. That he embellishes his words with rape, sodomy & murder says a lot about the old f..t and nothing about anyone else.
Kay
@Betty Cracker:
There was a nationally televised “special” on the Haitians in Springfield (quality work where they went there and interviewed people) and their employers were interviewed and the employers said nice things about Haitians and their work ethic and bad things about the local white people in Springfield, as employees. That’s what fueled the anger.
I’ve talked about this situation a lot here on BJ. Young white men are failing. They don’t work, they don’t become independent from their parents, they won’t do anything to move up, even when it’s offered or there is plenty of opportunity with a booming economy (like now). It isn’t the fault of brown people or immigrants or women – it’s a kind of young white male cultural problem where (frankly) they think they’re too good to work. The Haitians are bearing the brunt of that societal problem. They had nothing to do with it. They just showed up ready to work.
Dave
@Betty Cracker: It’s both a dessert topping and a floor wax!
Sometimes I do understand the Straussian impulse that you really do need to feed the helpless masses happy stories; it passes but there are times I can grok it.
TBone
All eyes on Wilkes Barre today. You have to know how to pronounce it and why. Contemplating a drive over to tailgate…
I’d like to take sharing veggie tray and hoagie tray wit, like I do for Stones shows…
frosty
@TBone: You’re from DelCo? I would never have known! //
ETA Yuck, I wish I hadn’t clicked on that link!
Betty Cracker
@Eduardo: Seems like there’s plenty of anti-Haitian sentiment in the northern part of the state, but it’s abstract. In South FL, y’all have more firsthand experience with that community.
Dave
@Baud: And in convincing them is he turning off others and also convincing some soft Democratic voters to come out?
BellyCat
@Betty Cracker: Ronstadt pulls no punches! Thanks for posting that.
Kay
@Eduardo:
I think there probably HAS been a big spike in the public school population so they might need a short term state subsidy but there are plenty of school bond financing options in Ohio and they’re paying both a city and state tax (along with property tax) and that all goes to schools. So Springfield will end up net gain – they can and should borrow until the revenue evens out.
lowtechcyclist
@Frankensteinbeck:
If I knew someone who was spouting this nonsense, I’d propose a bet with them: we buy tickets on the same flight to Portland (or Seattle, or wherever), and he gets to give me a tour of the wreckage from 2020. If he can’t find it, he pays for my ticket; if he can, I pay for his.
Even if I knew someone who was spouting this garbage, I doubt I’d get a taker.
Soprano2
@Ken: Every city should make him pay in advance since it’s well-known that he stiffs everyone he can.
TBone
@frosty: 😆 🎶
https://youtu.be/3VFOEa8K-6Q
Dave
@Kay: Vance is feckless and faithless and in mind he is a traitor to the better aspirations of this country.
The fact that he is shitting on his constituents explicitly especially with farcical but ugly lie with a deep history is just beyond the pale.
Hopefully he loses hard enough that Thiel will decide to add him to his blood bank based on my belief that Thiel is a literal vampire.
frosty
@TBone: Damn, what a conundrum. Drive to Wilkes Barre to see if I can get into the rally, or go down to Baltimore to see Springsteen at Oriole Park?
Nah, I’d have to sacrifice the $$$ Springsteen ticket. Harris or Walz will be back in PA. Plus, it’s a ~50-year bookend. The only other time I saw Bruce before was at the Roxy on Sunset Strip in 1975.
Soprano2
@Scout211: Plus if you have an outside cat they can disappear at any time. I had one disappear on April Fools Day 2022. I still wonder what happened to him. I looked all around the neighborhood and asked people if they had seen him, but there was no trace. I also didn’t find him dead anywhere. So an outside cat disappearing is a totally normal thing that sometimes happens.
Attempted Chemistry
@H.E.Wolf: Akshully…
It was Grand Moff Tarkin whose stench Princess Leia recognized.
Chief Oshkosh
@hueyplong:
The “normal” freak show (as opposed to the total freak-on freak show that Trump himself is running) may have taken the back seat, but it is still running an enormous number of ads on local and national TV and in other media. In the swing states I’ve had to visit in the last several weeks, it’s pretty much one-to-one with Harris ads
ETA: Point being, and I know we are doing it here, there’s still a tight race to be won. Send postcards, knock on doors, do whatever you can to convince friends and family to vote Democratic up and down the ticket.
Dave
@lowtechcyclist: Probably the thing they could point to that seems to in a lot even smallish urban areas is the increase in homeless/panhandlers very easy group to other and use as a stand in for things that going wrong and not one with much in the way of powerful advocates. And unlike hardworking immigrants they often are unpleasant to interact with.
So I suppose I’m pleased they haven’t targeted them though in light of the extremely ugly othering rhetoric they are using regarding immigrants that is a small comfort indeed.
Soprano2
@Kay: Do you think he knows they are Catholic? He may think they all practice Santeria.
TBone
@frosty: dang, that’s a tough one but you’re making a good call. I stll have to talk hubby into going (he’s gotta take care of neighbors’ puppy dog at lunch time and will want his afternoon nap so I’ve got my work cut out to get him in the truck instead). I have just now tenderly broached the subject so he can warm up to it. His naps are pretty important to him. I hope to prevail like Bruce!
Dave
@Soprano2: I don’t think he cares. He is a true believer in this crap but that crap always involves a bit of a distinction between what is meant for the masses and what is meant for the enlightened leaders even if in practice it leads to the end point.
Soprano2
@Betty Cracker: Wow, they’re all in on this strategy, aren’t they?
Steve LaBonne
Does anybody think this senile old fool will actually be in charge if the election goes bad? JV Dunce, wacko Christian Nationalist, will be in charge. Assuming he shows up for the veep debate, Walz needs to make that point very clearly in the course of demolishing him.
TBone
@Soprano2: our outdoor Tux just reappeared after almost a year in absentia!
(Neighbor’s cat who fled when they got a vicious, cat-eating Doberman so we started feeding and caring as best we could. Tux is a little hellion who will scratch your eye out if given half a chance).
Peale
idk. It’s been good to win the debate, but if we want to win, we probably better not allow the topic to be immigration for the next two months. Or we will lose. “Kamala Harris and the Democrats are ok with dumping 20,000 immigrants on a town, and when citizens complain, they call them names. Your town could be next.” I mean, this is exactly what they want the election to be about.
Chief Oshkosh
@Betty Cracker: Yes, this by far remains my most visceral point of loathing for Trump and his supporters. There is simply no getting around those actions.
Another Scott
@Baud: Didn’t Martin say his wife was going through serious medical issues? Sorry if I’m mis-remembering.
Life gets in the way quite often…
Cheers,
Scott.
Soprano2
@Kay: It is interesting that the press never asks “Where is Melania, where is Ivanka, why aren’t they campaigning for him?”
gene108
@Kay:
I know the Haitians in Springfield are here legally.
What I wasn’t clear about is Trump and his people are not bothering with little details like legal versus illegal immigration status regarding groups they want to demonize and may get a chance to deport.
Any immigrant group they want to disparage is here “illegally” in their rhetoric, whether or not its true.
Sanjeevs
Big if true
TBone
@Dave: Walz has got his number, will wear a belt of
oniongarlic and drive the wooden stake home.Booger
@TBone: The Phineas gage is what you use to measure the size of holes in things, right?
TBone
@Booger: 😆 you from Linwood or
UpperLower Chi?Matt McIrvin
@Peale: Okay, but when they rev up the hate klaxon, has “grit your teeth, pretend it’s not happening and try to change the subject” ever worked as a response?
Laughing in their faces and throwing some punches might not work either, but otherwise it’s just “they go there, then they win”.
Matt McIrvin
@gene108:
This has been bigot rhetoric about immigrants for as long as I can remember. Anyone you hear speaking Spanish is an “illegal” and I guess it’s true of Kreyol too.
hueyplong
@oldgold: We’re at the “Me and Mrs Jones” stage of the Trump campaign, and I can’t think of a better match than Laura Handcuff Myself to One But Not Both Door Handles Loomer.
Peale
@lowtechcyclist: yep. The Haitian immigrants give us exactly 0 votes, since as immigrants, they can’t vote. People concerned about Haitian immigrants give them quite a few votes. Including a lot of Democratic votes.
lying that Aurora Colorado has been destroyed by Venezuelans didn’t have a lot of legs. Springfield and their 20,000 Haitians just might.
TBone
@hueyplong: 😆
Scout211
Ugh. This is truly disturbing.
Attempted Chemistry
@Soprano2: I don’t know, I ain’t got no crystal ball.
Ghost of Joe Liebling’s Dog
@lowtechcyclist:
Pretty sure no one would take you up on it.
I think that deep down, they know perfectly well that this is garbage, they just enjoy frightening people, lying about people, and being malicious.
When Obama was running for his first term, I was active on an internet board about coffee, and of course there was a section devoted to craziness; the two go together. One of the crazies insisted that if Obama were to be elected, everyone’s 401K plans would be hoovered up by the government overnight and we would all be made paupers thereby. I offered to bet this guy some trivial amount of some highly-coveted coffee beans that at the end of Obama’s term, if he were to be elected, we would still have 401Ks.
He chickened out, and then blocked me, if I remember correctly — on a bet that would have amounted to at most $20 or so.
They know perfectly well that they’re spouting nonsense and they’re afraid to be shown up.
Matt McIrvin
@Dave: Right. There has definitely been in increase in visible homelessness especially on the urban West Coast. And when people talk about Seattle or Portland or San Francisco becoming some post-apocalyptic hellhole, they’re not really talking about crime rates or any actual danger citizens are in, they’re talking about homeless people, who are unpleasant and scary to see. And framing them as a threat to be extirpated rather than as people who we are collectively failing.
Even during his term as President, Trump was making noises about rounding them up into camps, and I think that if these people get power again, after they get their ethnic cleansing and transphobia bender started, visible homeless are going to be the next folk they start talking about eliminating somehow.
hueyplong
@Scout211: If a one-week meme that helps explode Trump’s debate performance is what real power looks like, I’m game for seeing this clown continue to flex.
Belafon
@Ken: aactually, I bet you can’t give bad advice. Your alive, like mine, would probably be no better than random, but it probably wouldn’t actually make things worse overall, unlike what Republican consultants will provide.
Steve LaBonne
@Peale: There are a lot of US citizens of Haitian origin. Quite a few of them in Florida, where we appear to be tantalizingly close.
Belafon
@Ken: actually, I bet you can’t give bad advice. Your advice, like mine, would probably be no better than random, but it probably wouldn’t actually make things worse overall, unlike what Republican consultants will provide.
satby
@Baud: I wrote to him a few days ago, no response yet. I’ll keep you posted.
Geminid
@TBone: I initially read that comment to mean you planned on taking your neighbor’s dog to tailgate party at a Harris rally. I wanted to say, “T-Bone! Don’t do it!!”
Then I reread the comment and heaved a sigh of relief.
Matt McIrvin
@Peale:
Wrong, many are citizens, though the only state where Haitian-American citizens are numerous enough to really be an electoral force is Florida, so your broader point stands.
Peale
@gene108: trumps immigration policies involve revoking legal status for immigrants from places he doesn’t like and deporting them. That’s what he did last time with the 100,000 Honduran immigrants who were on temporary status for 20 years following hurricane Mitch. Wouldn’t renew the executive order, so they had to leave. Now many just stayed on and after 6 years the case finally ended in court. But do we think he’s not going to be doing that to Haitians in Ohio? I’m going to assume that on day 1, all 19,000 of those immigrants will find themselves with a choice to go back to Haiti or be arrested and sent back to Haiti.
TerryC
@p.a.: To Arianna Grande voters Haiti=Jamaica.
Steve LaBonne
@Matt McIrvin: IIRC Haitian-Americans are about 3% of the population of Florida and vote at high rates. Enough to make the difference in a very tight race.
BellyCat
That’s Shakespeare, or is it Warhol? Something about strutting and fretting, or 15 minutes of fame? So hard to know which sage luminary to call forth for these bozos.
satby
@Spanky: already reached out to him.
hueyplong
@BellyCat: Well, he’s got the sound and fury part down.
JWR
@Ken:
Googled his name and this Youtube video was the first in line. I hate that a**hole, with all his “advice” to Democrats over the years, and here he really shows his complete a** trying to normalize Trump..
TBone
@Geminid: 💜😁
Although I traveled successfully with my cats back and forth from my condo to my cabin for quite a few years (weekends), I would never subject any animal to a large crowd of strangers making huge noise! The cats loved going to the mountains to a quiet, wild and secluded spot (but only upon arrival – at first they suspected a vet trip every time).
gene108
@Peale:
I forgot about not reauthorizing TPS visas. Yes, this is something they will do if back in power to the Haitians in Springfield.
My basic feeling is they are not going to be as careful* as they were before about following necessary legal steps, when it comes to deportations.
*I know they weren’t careful before. I think this time they’re going to break shit and dare someone to hold them accountable.
LarryB
@hueyplong:
Genius. I’m so stealing that.
Matt McIrvin
@TerryC: While you’re right, I kind of hate Paul Campos’s “Ariana Grande voters” coinage because it implies something he didn’t mean: that there’s some relationship between them and Ariana Grande, or liking Ariana Grande. Really, it was more the opposite, in that they were people who knew as little about politics as Paul Campos did about Ariana Grande. But that’s completely impossible to deduce without the explanation.
Gloria DryGarden
@Peale: I live in east Denver, near aurora. The apartments across the street have gotten an influx of Venezuelan folks. There are issues, I struggle with some complaints I have. But I would not call it gangs, nor destruction.
In fact, my interactions and requests have been met with mostly cordial respect. And more respect for elders than most white Americans.
I thought it was Lakewood… but I’ve heard nothing, locally, so I assume it’s national bullshit rumors.
Jackie
@Another Scott:
That was BRILLIANT!
Harrison Wesley
@TBone: Veggie tray? Surely you meant crudite platter; that’s what Pennsylvania’s very own Dr. Oz calls it, and you can’t get much more authentic than that.
TBone
@Steve LaBonne: Someone online made that point vehemently yesterday (a blogger) but I can’t now remember where, dang it. Pantzed won’t miss when he comes for that “king.”
TBone
@Another Scott: I make it a point to put life in the way on purpose. Sometimes, not as successfully as I’d like, but getting off screen is necessary for survival!
TBone
@Harrison Wesley: 😂 I’m not gonna say crudite in a Harris crowd! I’m just gonna say help yourselves everybody! Don’t forget to try the hot dish dip!
Matt McIrvin
@Gloria DryGarden: The thing that strikes me about Venezuelans is that they’re fleeing a left-wing regime and are probably ripe to be Republican allies if they’re naturalized. The Reaganesque play would be to decide that they were the GOOD immigrants, and fearmonger about someone else. But the Trumpist play seems to be more Know-Nothingism revived: if people are coming from bad place X, you treat them not as seekers after freedom who will respond to your anti-X rhetoric, but as carriers of contagion who are going to infect us with the badness.
Belafon
@Kay: Reading the local news, there has been a large influx recently that has put a strain on schools and some other services, but that’s not what Trump and Republicans are talking about.
Matt McIrvin
@Peale: Republicans like to say “we only hate ILLEGAL immigration,” but there’s a nice Catch-22 attached: it’s all illegal immigration if you make all immigration illegal. Stephen Miller was clearly hellbent on reducing legal immigration to zero, or only to immigration from rich white countries from which hardly anyone immigrates anyway, because they’ve got no reason to.
Ceci n est pas mon nym
I’m getting a vision… a video… someone from Project Veritas dressed as Dan Aykroyd from the blackface scene in Trading Places, taking bites out of a stuffed cat and voicing convincing dialog like “boy de cats never tasted dis good in Haytee” and “I sure love de cats here in Springfield Ohio”.
Mark’s Bubbie
@Betty Cracker: That post by Marshall was interesting. I heard elsewhere that the ads and mailers will be mostly directed to PA and GA. I loved it when Harris mentioned the 800,000 Polish-Americans in PA. Seemed very smart.
Ceci n est pas mon nym
@TBone: Wow. It’s like a distillation of every over the top racist asshole you ever met. The ones who make the other racist assholes uncomfortable. I’ll bet she and TFG have a hilarious time together on the plane, seeing how many times they can say the N word.
CaseyL
@Steve LaBonne:
Only his cult thinks Trump will be “in charge,” and maybe any voters SO uninformed that they haven’t paid any attention to anything whatsoever.
No one else does. It’s unspoken, never even referred to, but nothing else explains why the congressional GOP, the Christofascisrs, and the oligarchs (and their vassals in the MSM and industry) are lining up for Trump.
In fact, I think that’s what they’re counting on: they don’t mind a fascist dictatorship per se, they just hope/assume it will be run by competent fascists.
Dave
@Ceci n est pas mon nym: Loomer in addition to being a bag of cats in a sack (unfair to cats who would be rightly upset by this circumstances) strikes me as likely having genuine mental health issues. This doesn’t by any means exonerate her from being a toxic ass but probably does serve as a catalyst. Don is probably eating it up which at this point is likely a good thing. Less so if he manages to BS a win but frankly that is going be disastrous regardless.
Sister Machine Gun of Quiet Harmony
@Matt McIrvin: I think visible homelessness is why so many people think the economy is bad.
Matt McIrvin
@Kay:
So, yeah, that’s THE classic trigger for a xenophobic panic. Very few Haitians at all in the state, and suddenly, some dying town has a whole lot of Haitians moving in. Like Somalians in Maine.
Ksmiami
@lowtechcyclist: this foul bs is what got black men hung from trees in the South. It needs to be shoved back down and fast.
TBone
@Ceci n est pas mon nym: 👍🤬🤮
K-Mo
@Attempted Chemistry: Just don’t pop a cap in Sancho
Matt McIrvin
(also… city of 60,000 in the state’s Meth Belt? Hey, that’s where I live! Just not Ohio’s.)
Ksmiami
@Kay: Completely and asshats like Scott Galloway are saying it’s society’s fault for helping girls get ahead even though 90 percent of c level execs are men..
K-Mo
@Mark’s Bubbie: She is also going hard after the military folks, of which there are a lot in PA. Underrated aspect of her debate performance IMHO
TBone
@K-Mo: 🖤
Ruckus
@H.E.Wolf:
Probably not?
Let’s get right to it – He will not. What you are seeing/hearing is what he is. His brain, no matter what or how bad it was yesterday or years ago, has gone bye bye. He’s the type that everything has to go right for him or it goes epically wrong. And it isn’t going right or good for him and it hasn’t for years. He is not a normal human. His concept of life is that he’s the top of the heap. It’s a heap alright, but it’s a heap that smells really bad, because it is really bad – for him and for everyone else. He’s had his time in the spotlight and he showed us exactly who and what he is. And most do not want what he’s selling. A hundred or hundred and fifty years ago he’d be selling bottles of his crap out of the back of a wagon, and some would buy a bottle or even two. He’d go town to town selling his bottles of crap, but now that’s done on TV and in person, he sells his crap. Doesn’t even have to bottle it. And it aways was crap, it’s just that now it is so obvious that there is only a very small segment/percentage of humanity that will buy it. But it is very likely that there will always be some sort of segment that will buy his crap.
There always is. No one has to that doesn’t want to. Please don’t want to.
Ruckus
@Baud:
He doesn’t have polling. He KNOWS. Just ask him. He’s selling
shit. No wait he’s selling himself. mmmm Oh yeah, they are one and the same. And always have been. In this world there will always be people that will buy the shit that someone is selling out of the back of a wagon – or in this case on TV or online. Doesn’t matter if it’s valuable or worse than worthless (it is #2 – in so many ways) people will buy it. The more it gets to look, smell and is really #2 the fewer will but there will be those that will. It’s humanity, in all it’s glory and all it’s anything but.Ruckus
@waspuppet:
Do you think those people are going to want to buy THAT?
They do like everyone else does – they put up with him because some of our citizens support him. But he is, well, shit and has done exactly nothing positive for this country. But buy him now? I’d bet not.
Manyakitty
@Raven: good!!!
Manyakitty
@Soprano2: or voodoo.
Also, sending peace, love, and light to you and your husband. 💗
Ruckus
@Matt McIrvin:
If they had to stick to the truth they couldn’t say a word.
Bull and shit is all they have. They supported and elevated a person who only has bullshit coming out of his mouth, his brain, such as it is, filters out everything else, and always has. What they liked about him was that he sounded good with his bullshit because his bullshit was about money – right up to the second he decided to run for political office. Now he has learned to bullshit about everything. Because that is ALL he knows. But because that’s all he knows, that spotlight of the highest office shined on him and let everyone/anyone that didn’t already know, that there is only one thing he knows – and it’s bull and shit, all wrapped up in one so untidy package.
kindness
I realize my mind is all too frequently in the gutter, but I’m getting a really strong vibe that Laura Loomer is offering Trump a very special kind of ’emotional support’ if you know what I mean.
Ruckus
@Ken:
I believe they raised the price as well, because I’d bet they figured they were never going to get paid in full.
Ruckus
@Kay:
JD is human? I thought he was a martian here on a scouting mission.
Humans run the gamut from good to pure shit, some surprise you and can even run from one end to the other.
Ruckus
@TBone:
I saw that yesterday and have since “toned it down” for you guys.
Why?
These almost human beings want to destroy everyone/everything they do not approve of. What would be left of humanity would not be much, because they can do nothing to provide life, you know food, air quality, safety concepts, rational government – or any thing else rational…. They are actually playing the kids game “World” trying to make it in their own image. So everything will look, smell and somebody please forbid, taste like shit (I was in the military. I had to eat military food for 3+ yrs. Two weeks was my limit of great, decent food. That’s how long I was on that ship before the ONE actual chief in the USN retired, and left people who could only warm up crap to serve was all that was left)
Because that is their image. A big pile of steaming, smelly shit.
The Lodger
@Booger: It’s larger than the Freewheelin’ Franklin gage and a whole lot smaller than the Fat Freddy.
Paul in KY
@Xentik: That sure makes me grin!!! Well played, madam Vice President…
Ruckus
@Geminid:
I don’t comment as often as I used to and others may be the same, or maybe they are on vacation and are staying away from the internet, or maybe they changed jobs or their jobs have gotten intense, or maybe some family member has been ill and their time was taken up there, or whatever. I sometimes don’t comment for a few days, I’ve had people comment on my comments in a negative manner and have not answered them, etc, etc.
Life goes on, humans have issues, sometimes they have nothing to say, sometimes what they have to say would be inappropriate so they don’t say it publicly. And often the reason has nothing to do with other parts of their lives.