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Trump’s assassination attempts aren’t going to be long-lasting stories primarily because discussion just how easy it was for this nutter, who had multiple prior gun charges, including possession of a weapon of mass destruction, to get an assault rifle and carry it around in Florida.   Trump can whine all he wants, and his surrogates can spread nonsense about how Democrats’ critique of Trump caused a registered Republican who supports a Vivek/Haley ticket to try to take a shot at him, but come on.  There’s no sane place on earth where this guy should be anywhere near a weapon.

Democrats’ desire to issue statements decrying violence don’t quite cut it (via Tom Sullivan):

Within minutes of the attempted assassination of former President Donald Trump, the Unity Statements began to popcorn out.

Every Unity Statement is different, but there are certain stylistic requirements that a Democratic political figure knows to follow.

First, the statement maker’s spouse’s name should be included prominently somewhere: “Becky and I were sad to hear…” “Corey and I were deeply shaken by the news…” “Charlie and I join together…” The inclusion of the spouse is important here because it signals that this is a special kind of statement. More Christmas card vibes than political statement vibes. The normal rules are suspended. There will be no jabs here, no stridency, maybe not even any truth. […]

Third, a Democratic Unity Statement must mention temperature. Specifically, it should suggest that the temperature has risen too high. Though it may be Republicans who are overwhelmingly responsible for raising the temperature, planetarily and politically, in a respectable Unity Statement, this cannot be said. Instead, it should be argued that the temperature be lowered. Who knows how it got raised, and who really cares? And the Democratic statement maker must immediately volunteer to participate in the lowering of what they may have had no part in raising. […]

Here, though, are some of the problems with the Unity Statement as we have been experiencing it.

It places the burden of healing the country on those not responsible for wounding it.

It asks well-meaning, earnest people to stop doing what they never were doing in the first place, while all but conceding that the people who are still doing it will not stop.

It deplores crimes against the common good without being interested in perpetrators.

It exonerates the victim who is the object of the statement from any complicity they might have had in creating the conditions that led to the statement having to be made.

It elevates the promptings of politeness over the promptings of honesty.

It substitutes a vague idea of “coming together” for the urgent and vital work of stopping an ongoing campaign of sowing hatred, disinformation, distrust, and enmity.

As Josh Marshall put it, we all know Trump started this fire.  His campaign based on violence against opponents:  for example, Junior posted picture of a hammer and underwear when someone bashed in Paul Pelosi’s head with a hammer.  His campaign tells lies about immigrants that lead to bomb threats and school closings.  His party squawks and squeals at even a hint of an assault rifle ban.

Trump is going to have to follow his own advice and get over it, because his campaign and his party demands that we live in a world where it’s too damn easy to get a gun.

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  2. 2.

    Baud

    I’m even less impressed with people whose first thought is to complain about how Democrats are doing it wrong.

  5. 5.

    Elizabelle

    @Quinerly:  Thanks for the head’s up on the Joy Reid segment.  Will def be watching for anyone who puts up a link to it.

    I suspect the Secret Service was in touch with billionaire Musk.  Question is how quickly his own corporate attorneys blasted him first.

  6. 6.

    Sure Lurkalot

    Why not just the simple but meaningless “thoughts and prayers” because that’s all America’s kiddos get when their schools are shot up.

  7. 7.

    Elizabelle

    I think in time Harris Walz is going to have to deal again with an assault weapons ban.  She may have reassured voters in her first debate that no one is coming for their guns, but military grade assault rifles do not belong in public circulation.  Enough.

  8. 8.

    bbleh

    Trump is going to have to follow his own advice and get over it …

    Ahahahahaha!  Ahahaha!  Stop! Please! Yer killin’ me!  Ahahahahaaahaha!

  9. 9.

    Scout211

    I guess Elon maybe learned something today that, as owner of a huge social media platform, he most certainly should have already known.

    Reuters—  The Secret Service is aware of the social media post made by Elon Musk and as a matter of practice, we do not comment on matters involving protective intelligence,” a spokesperson told Reuters in an email. “We can say, however, that the Secret Service investigates all threats related to our protectees.”

    The spokesperson declined to specify whether the agency had reached out to Musk, who seemed to suggest in follow-up posts that he had been making a joke.

    “Well, one lesson I’ve learned is that just because I say something to a group and they laugh doesn’t mean it’s going to be all that hilarious as a post on X,” he wrote. “Turns out that jokes are WAY less funny if people don’t know the context and the delivery is plain text.”

    Good job, Elon. Knowing the context of a “joke” about assassination makes all the difference.  Uh, huh. Hilarious.

    ETA:  I see Quinerly posted the link at #1 while I was composing.

  10. 10.

    japa21

    @Quinerly:  I may be in the minority, but I didn’t read his post as calling for an assassination attempt on Biden or Harris.  Rather I see it as him thinking it is very suspicious that there have been no such attempts, implying the attempts on Trump are being orchestrated by the Dems.

    Still an irresponsible tweet.

  15. 15.

    MagdaInBlack

    @Scout211: The post he responded to,  “DogeDesigner” was also him, one of his alter twitter persona’s.

    So he, as his alter, made the first comment specifically so he could respond as he did.

    He does this shit all the time

  16. 16.

    @mistermix.bsky.social

    @Scout211:

    Good job, Elon. Knowing the context of a “joke” about assassination makes all the difference.  Uh, huh. Hilarious.

    Incels like Vance and Elon both say something is a “joke” when it’s clearly not.  It’s on page one of the abusers playbook.

  17. 17.

    Baud

    @Steve LaBonne:

    Yep.

    As President, she won’t stop fighting so that Americans have the freedom to live safe from gun violence in our schools, communities, and places of worship. She’ll ban assault weapons and high-capacity magazines, require universal background checks, and support red flag laws that keep guns out of the hands of dangerous people.

  18. 18.

    Elizabelle

    @Steve LaBonne:  Good to hear, although that nuance did not come up in the debate.  It was “Tim and I own guns, and we are not coming for yours.”

    Just say that because most people (OK, me) don’t check out Kamala’s website, but a lot of us paid close attention to that debate.

  19. 19.

    @mistermix.bsky.social

    @Elizabelle:

    I thought Ken White’s (Popehat) reply on Bluesky was about right:

    https://bsky.app/profile/kenwhite.bsky.social/post/3l4co6vfs4i2s

    Bullshit for many reasons, among them: the rhetoric Trump and Vance use about Harris and the Democrats are communists destroying America is far more unhinged and provocative than the Trump-will-destroy-democracy rhetoric.

    Ultimately they will always be bullies who can dish it out but can’t take it.

  20. 20.

    Quinerly

    @Scout211:

    All cool. I go for short. If I post anything here, I’m mostly using my phone. I figure people can click on a link and read or not. The synopsis and block quotes folks do are great. For me, I always click on links and read for myself anyway.

  21. 21.

    dmsilev

    @Scout211:

    “Well, one lesson I’ve learned is that just because I say something to a group and they laugh doesn’t mean it’s going to be all that hilarious as a post on X,” he [Elon] wrote. “Turns out that jokes are WAY less funny if people don’t know the context and the delivery is plain text.”

    Most people manage to figure that out long before reaching his age and number of failed “joke” social media posts. Not to mention, most people don’t have a team of lawyers and PR specialists and so on and so forth who can tell him BAD IDEA. Maybe he should lay off the mind-altering substances for a month or two?

  22. 22.

    Scout211

      NBC The acting director of the U.S. Secret Service said the agency needs to undergo a complete overhaul of how it protects presidents — a remarkable admission following a second apparent attempt on the life of former President Donald Trump within two months.

    “Coming out of Butler, I have ordered a paradigm shift,” Ronald Rowe said at a news conference Monday, referring to the assassination attempt in Butler, Pennsylvania, in July. “The Secret Service’s protective methodologies work and they are sound, and we saw that yesterday.”

    But, he added, “we need to get out of a reactive model, and get to a readiness model.”

    Rowe did not go into detail about his vision for the nearly 160-year-old agency. His comments come at a pivotal moment for the Secret Service.

    What!? You mean the Secret Service hasn’t been in a readiness model?!   WTAF?  This is actually quite disturbing.

  23. 23.

    bbleh

    @japa21: he wasn’t calling for it explicitly.  This is edgelord, wannabe-mob-boss language.  This is the language of someone with the emotional maturity of a ten-year-old (at best) tiptoeing right up to the line and then staring at the teacher plainly to say waddaya-gonna-do-about-it HUH?  It’s the same kind of stuff the Felon himself has been doing for, well, years.

    It’s perfectly clear what he said and meant.  “Funny” how this thing (which I certainly don’t want to happen nonono!) hasn’t happened, huh?  Isn’t that … odd?  That it hasn’t happened?  Why hasn’t it?

    It’s a calculated lie, and anybody who falls for it is a sucker.

  24. 24.

    Quinerly

    @dmsilev:

    I am so old I remember when Obama was accused of excessive golfing while on the job.

    Pretty sure all his golfing was at golf courses on military bases. I guess I could check to see if Camp David has a course. I bet it does.

  25. 25.

    Elizabelle

    @@mistermix.bsky.social:  Yep.  It’s deny and distract.

    And this on the same day he admitted to making up crap AND kept the lies about pet-eating Haitians going.

    Looked up the acronym DARVO, which others have brought up as being abusers’ behavior.

    DARVO refers to a reaction perpetrators of wrong doing, particularly sexual offenders, may display in response to being held accountable for their behavior. DARVO stands for “Deny, Attack, and Reverse Victim and Offender.”

  26. 26.

    Another Scott

    As Josh Marshall put it, we all know Trump started this fire.

    But he didn’t.

    WaPo – July 1995:

    Shortly after taking charge of the House in January, Rep. Newt Gingrich (R-Ga.) promised the National Rifle Association in writing that no gun control legislation would move out of committee or on the House floor as long as he is speaker.

    Evidently confident of his grip on the House with its new Republican majority, Gingrich made the pledge in a Jan. 27 letter to the NRA’s chief lobbyist, Tanya Metaksa. A copy of the “Dear Tanya” note was obtained by The Washington Post.

    NewYorker.com (from March 2014):

    Just another morning’s work in the life of a modern G.O.P. leader. But before moving on, it might be worth asking what Coburn did to earn his award from the N.R.A. The Web site ontheissues.org has provided some of the answers: He voted no on banning high-capacity magazines holding more than ten bullets, the sort favored by the mass murderers in Aurora, Newtown, and other places where innocent Americans have met an early and gruesome end. He voted yes on prohibiting certain lawsuits against gun manufacturers. He voted in favor of bills allowing gun owners to carry their weapons across state lines, and allowing guns in national parks. He voted to amend the law so that the government couldn’t take a person’s firearms away because he or she had been deemed mentally incapacitated or incompetent; the government also had to persuade a court that the person was dangerous.

    McConnell has taken practically identical positions. In 2008, he received a “Defender of the Constitution” award from the N.R.A., which has announced it will support his reëlection effort. But that doesn’t mean he’s home free. Bevin is supported by the Gun Owners of America, an organization that is even more extreme than the N.R.A., and his likely Democratic opponent, Alison Lundergan Grimes, Kentucky’s Secretary of State, is also making a play for gun lovers. Shortly after McConnell’s appearance at CPAC, she tweeted, “Someone tell @Team_Mitch that’s not the way to hold a gun. KY women do it better.”

    Saying it’s all Turnp’s fault lets the rest of the monsters off too easy.

    It doesn’t cost anything to say “there’s no place for political violence; we’re happy the guy didn’t succeed.” It won’t change any views; it won’t feed the mania of the gun nuts; it won’t distract voters from the vital business at hand – namely turning out as many voters as possible to vote the monsters out.

    Eyes on the prizes.

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  29. 29.

    Eric S.

    @dmsilev: I recogniE your snark but obviously Trump won’t do this for multiple reasons including his pocketbook. The USSS pays to rent those carts they ride in.

  30. 30.

    A Man for All Seasonings (formerly Geeno)

    I’d just respond that shootings are a fact of life now, as JD said. Hardly worth noting.

  31. 31.

    Renie

    Reposting from a prior thread:

    OT: The Nassau County GOP on Long Island, New York has invited trump to do a rally in the N.C. Coliseum Wednesday night. At the moment the County still owns the Coliseum so I do wonder if our tax dollars are paying for all the expenses for the rally. I’ll make sure I stay off the highways near it that night while all the idiots here go there.

    The GOP County Supervisor, Bruce Blakeman, recruited “special deputies” aka armed civilians to deploy during disaster or unrest. I’m not aware of any protests that are going to be held there Wednesday cuz Blakeman has claimed in the past this “militia” will also be used for “riot control” aka democratic party protests.

    And why is trump even doing a rally in New York? It’s still a solid blue state.

  32. 32.

    Elizabelle

    @Another Scott:  It can be both of those things.  The GOP has given the NRA just about everything they want, at the cost of Americans’ lives and safety.

    And:  Trump is a vortex of ugliness who urges violence.

    I do worry that Musk’s widely spread tweet might have reminded some a-hole that Kamala and Tim are out there, too.  Although, they might be harder targets, being that they listen to their security staff.

  35. 35.

    Kay

    —Statewide: Harris up 49% to 46%

    —just Erie County: Harris up 48% to 44%. (Erie went for Biden by 1% in 2020.)

    —just Northampton County: Harris up 50% to 45% (Also went for Biden by 1% in 2020.)

  36. 36.

    Matt McIrvin

    @Elizabelle: I suspect that if there’s any reason aside from bad luck that Trump’s been targeted by the high-profile assassination attempts, it’s simply that Harris doesn’t take foolish risks and is better protected, so the plots don’t get far enough to make the papers. People try to kill high-profile politicians and candidates all the time. I recall they gave Barack Obama Secret Service protection unusually early, when he was running, because he was getting so many threats.

  37. 37.

    citizen dave

    From Orange Man’s website, this week’s events–as of now–are Tuesday night, Flint Michigan; Wed night, Uniondale NY, and Saturday afternoon, Wilmington, North Carolina.

    Good seats still available!  Not sure what they are paying

    FWIW, my first take on Elon’s “joke” was an intimation that trump was targeted because he is the important candidate, and the other two he mentioned just weren’t worth it…

  39. 39.

    cmorenc

    @dmsilev:

    If Trump wants to golf in his publicly-accessible courses, fine. Let him be responsible for his own security. Otherwise, he could do the responsible thing (ha ha ha ha) and be like Obama and golf on courses on secure military bases.

    But then, Trump could not gouge the secret service for cart rental etc., and he would be playing on golf courses he did not own and control, where the course superintendents would be not so inclined to humor his habit of driving golf carts right up onto the immediate green aprons instead of obeying the signs usually about 30 yards out directing golf carts to exit the fairway to the side and stick to the cart path around the green.

  40. 40.

    What Have The Romans Ever Done for Us?

    @Quinerly: I don’t think Camp David has a golf course. There’s a Maryland State Park there and when POTUs is at Camp David they close some of the hiking trails for security – you’re that close to Camp David. I’ve hiked all those trails many times and never seen any hint of a golf course. I don’t they could hide one – even a 9 hole one, out of sight of the vistas.

  42. 42.

    Jackie

    Heard on the news; RFK jr must stay on Wisconsin ballot😂, and Mark Meadow lost his argument to move his AZ case to federal court.😂

  45. 45.

    stinger

    @japa21:

    him thinking it is very suspicious that there have been no such attempts, implying the attempts on Trump are being orchestrated by the Dems

    Plausible, but if so, even less of a “joke” on his part.

  46. 46.

    @mistermix.bsky.social

    @Renie:

    And why is trump even doing a rally in New York? It’s still a solid blue state.

    Good question.  He might help some downballot candidates on Long Island, since it’s purple at best, but he’s not going to win New York.

  51. 51.

    lamh47

    @Acyn

    Ingraham: If Harris and Biden really want to end the conspiracy theories.. why not invite Trump to The White House
    https://x.com/Acyn/status/1835822875468865576

    Dafuq…why… also too…

    @RussOnPolitics

    Donald Trump could’ve met Kamala Harris 4 years ago, but he refused to attend the inauguration. That’s because he refused to admit he lost. That’s why she had to introduce herself at the debate. They never met before. So no, no invitation to the White House will be forthcoming.
    https://x.com/RussOnPolitics/status/1835824947358281937

  55. 55.

    Geminid

    @@mistermix.bsky.social: A friend was looking at advertising expenditures and said it appears that Trump’s campaign team is putting most of their eggs in the Pennsylvania and Georgia baskets. That’s a narrow path to victory, but it could be the only one they have.

  58. 58.

    lamh47

    Gwen Walz is gonna be a great 2nd Lady I think.

    @flywithkamala

    MN First Lady Gwen Walz is adorable — she didn’t say “wonderful” as prompted by a teleprompter a few days ago and Coach Walz called it out, so she was sure to describe him as her “*wonderful* husband” in Arizona today. 
    https://x.com/flywithkamala/status/1835811293392998644

    Oh and if Maya Rudolph is dusting off her Kamala wig, then Kristen Wigg needs to dust off a wig to play Gwen Walz.

  59. 59.

    SatanicPanic

    I think people just don’t care that much. One attempt was news for like a week. This one will probably drop off the radar in a few days.

  61. 61.

    lamh47

    @SatanicPanic: Cause folks see it as it seems to be…an distraction.

    If it happens everytime the campaign has a gaffe or implosion, then at some point it becomes the boy that cried wolf

  63. 63.

    SatanicPanic

    @cmorenc: this isn’t great advertising for his courses though. Who wants to risk golfing at a course where people with guns are loitering around?

  64. 64.

    mrmoshpotato

    @SatanicPanic:

    this isn’t great advertising for his courses though. Who wants to risk golfing at a course where people with guns are loitering around?

    Ain’t that a shame for the orange shitstain.  Boo hoo!

    ETA – maybe he should build domes over all of his wastes of land.  He is a billionaire, isn’t he?

  65. 65.

    cmorenc

    @Eolirin:

    @@mistermix.bsky.social: PA is the most important race this election. If Harris wins it, we’ve pretty much got this.

    If she wins NC, Harris is still 3 EV short, but Trump would need to run the table on the remaining swing states Pa, Ga, Az, and Nv.  Assuming she also holds Wisconsin and Michigan.  The advantage of Pa for Harris is that together with the other “blue wall” states, it’s game, set, and match with 270 EV regardless of whether she wins NC, Ga, Az, or Nv.

  67. 67.

    jayne

    So, if Donald Trump was literally anyone else in Florida, would some wackjob waving a gun around a golf course in his generally vicinity actually be a crime? Inquiring minds and all that.

  68. 68.

    geg6

    @Eolirin:

    At this point, I’d be a much happier person if PA would just go Blue and be done with it.  The amount of advertising we are subjected to is astonishing and the most I’ve ever seen.  At least many of the Harris/Walz and Dem ads are upbeat.  The GOP and Cheetolini ones a dystopian.

  69. 69.

    mrmoshpotato

    @geg6:

    At least many of the Harris/Walz and Dem ads are upbeat. The GOP and Cheetolini ones a dystopian. 

    Yeah.  I notice that about the ads too.

  70. 70.

    Suzanne

    @Kay:

    The poll found a wide gender gap that is benefiting the vice president. Harris leads female voters in Pennsylvania 56%-39%, while Trump leads male voters by a slimmer 53%-41%.

    Men, what the fuck?!

  73. 73.

    Jackie

    Does this mean Nicky Jam has unendorsed DonOLD?

    A Reggaeton star reportedly scrubbed his presidential endorsement off social media after former President Donald Trump mistakenly introduced the singer as a “hot” woman at his weekend campaign rally in Las Vegas.

    Before realizing singer Nicky Jam was a man, Trump quipped: “Do you know Nicky? She’s hot.”

    https://www.rawstory.com/nicky-jam/

  75. 75.

    different-church-lady

    I don’t want Trump to get shot shot. But if there were a gun that would make him just go away I’d use it in a heartbeat.

  77. 77.

    Suzanne

    @japa21: Since moving here. I have observed literal street fighting with baseball bats, men verbally abusing their girlfriends/wives in public, a drunk man on a train freaking out at a woman who he thought was sitting in his seat, and none of that even includes the guy down the street who cooks meth in his mom’s apartment or the asshole that broke into my house after getting high and taking his clothes off or the guy a few streets over who fires his gun (blank) because he doesn’t want property values to get higher. I saw plenty of shit in AZ, but there does seem to be something more toxic going on here with the dudes.

  79. 79.

    different-church-lady

    @Scout211: 

    “Turns out that jokes are WAY less funny if people don’t know the context and the delivery is plain text.”

    How many years have you been using the internet now, Rocket Boy?

  82. 82.

    FelonyGovt

    @Jackie: Also this Nicky  Jam just lost a collaboration with the Mexican rock group Maná. Maná pulled the record after Nicky appeared with Trump, saying “we don’t work with racists”.

  89. 89.

    Frankensteinbeck

    @MagdaInBlack:

    So he, as his alter, made the first comment specifically so he could respond as he did.

    That is so unbelievably pathetic.  It’s sad.  It’s just sad.  How can a man with so much money be so slathered in loser stink?

    EDIT – Seriously, this is the kind of thing a character does on kids’ shows so the audience knows he’s a loser.

  90. 90.

    Suzanne

    @FelonyGovt: I looked up the voter registration for the lowlife who broke into my house. I’m sure you’re shocked to learn he’s a registered Republican. AND, because Mr. Suzanne and I consented to his plea-bargain, he is not a felon (for this incident)….. so that fucker could vote.

    He also said lots of nice things about trans people on social media.

  93. 93.

    Ksmiami

    This is the world the corrupt af Court made. Let the Republicans live in it unprotected like the rest of us

  95. 95.

    lollipopguild

    @Frankensteinbeck: Trump learned that he could play THE VICTIM and his cult followers would eat it up. They also would give him money to salve his wounds. He is at the same time the smartest toughest hombre in the country as well as the most picked on and bullied person in the country.

  96. 96.

    Lamh47

    NBC asked JD Vance about Laura Loomer’s racist statement that the WH would “smell like curry” if Harris wins.

    Calling it unimportant, Vance replied:

    “whether you’re eating curry at your dinner table or fried chicken, things have gotten more expensive thanks to her policies.”
    https://x.com/johnjharwood/status/1835839765935018461?s=46

     

    Sigh…”fried chicken” really 😡. This muthaphucka not even dog whistling…it’s a foghorn…cause yeah “friend chicken”…is what the Black equivalent cause MVP is a Black woman 🤦🏾

     

    ugh.  So damn tired of the bullshit

  97. 97.

    rikyrah

     

    They were discussing on the local news that the City Council had approved $15 million in CPD police misconduct settlements.

    4 cases

     

    not trials.

    settlements by the city before it could go to trial.

     

    one of them was for $11.4 million.

    what thee phuck did the CPD DO to warrant an $11.4 million settlement? The city lawyers looked at the case and went….yeah, give them $11.4 million…we don’t want to go to trial…

     

    I don’t even want to know.

     

    this is the part of being a taxpayer that angers me. Why should we pay police salaries and for them to abuse the public?

  101. 101.

    Rusty

    It’s not the Democrats that blather on about “2nd amendment solutions”, and take the annual family Christmas photo with everyone holding an assault rifle.  The craziness is all on one side.

  102. 102.

    lowtechcyclist

    @Lamh47: ​

    What gets me is that Loomer’s line about curry was mild compared to what she followed it with – mentioning the Great Replacement theory by name, she said that the Dems were engaging in it, trying to replace all the white people in the U.S. with dark-skinned people.

    And that’s gotten next to no play in the media. Nobody’s asking other Republicans whether they agree with what she said about the Great Replacement Theory.

  103. 103.

    TS

    And Wapo has front page news of Trump blaming “rhetoric of Biden and Harris”. not to mention the rubbish from the  RW pro trump Editorial board. 99% of the comments told them as I did.

    You reap what you sow – and trump sowed hate and misery and anger all over everyone. 

  104. 104.

    Danielx

    I’m no more in favor of political violence than anyone else – amongst sane people – but….

    As unpleasant a miserable prick as he is and how many people he’s screwed over the years, small business people and whatnot, I’m surprised someone hasn’t taken a shot at him long before he ever formally entered politics.

  105. 105.

    Starfish

    @rikyrah: Woah. I love how you broke this down.

    From this story:

    The largest payout, more than $11 million, would be to Anthony Jakes, who spent 20 years in prison because he falsely confessed to a murder case after being beaten by Burge’s team.

    Jake was 15-years-old at the time of his arrest in 1991.

  110. 110.

    JoyceH

    @Matt McIrvin: Presidents and presidential candidates are always under threat, but the Trump detail, though they respond adequately, always have an air of surprise in the aftermath of an attempt – and I thinks it’s because of an unacknowledged blind spot, the subconscious belief that all gun owners are Trump supporters.

  112. 112.

    Betty

    I am a registered Democrat in PA and started receiving emails from Donald two days ago. They are desperate.

  115. 115.

    NotMax

    FYI.

    Reporting breaking on Vance today saying “The big difference between conservatives and liberals is that no one has tried to kill Kamala Harris.”

    head/desk to infinity

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    Jay

    @NotMax:

    Tee time
    THULE AIR BASE, Greenland — Senior Airman Diego Solis tees off at the 20th Annual Mount Dundas Open, the northernmost golf tournament in the world, here July 3. More than 35 participants climbed 800 feet of shale rock to reach the nine-hole par-3 course, which overlooks the air base, the polar ice cap and iceberg-filled North Star Bay. The final 75 feet up Mount Dundas featured a rope climb up shear rock face, making it necessary to move golf clubs and other equipment by helicopter. Airman Solis is assigned to the 821st Security Forces Squadron. (U.S. Air Force photo by 1st Lt. Justin T. Herman)

    https://www.af.mil/News/Photos/igphoto/2000581594/

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