Come for the politics, stay for the snark.

Of course you can have champagne before noon. That’s why orange juice was invented.

In short, I come down firmly on all sides of the issue.

If you cannot answer whether trump lost the 2020 election, you are unfit for office.

Dead end MAGA boomers crying about Talyor Swift being a Dem is my kind of music. Turn it up.

Never entrust democracy to any process that requires republicans to act in good faith.

Motown is Joe-Town!

Everybody saw this coming.

Russia bombs Ukraine’s maternity hospitals; Republicans in the House can’t sort out supporting Ukraine.

It’s a new day. Light all those Biden polls of young people on fire and throw away the ashes.

When we show up, we win.

If you are still in the gop, you are either an extremist yourself, or in bed with those who are.

“The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits.”

I might just take the rest of the day off and do even more nothing than usual.

Dear media: perhaps we ought to let Donald Trump speak for himself!

Good lord, these people are nuts.

Nancy smash is sick of your bullshit.

You’re just a puppy masquerading as an old coot.

The lights are all blinking red.

I am pretty sure Katy Tur wasn’t always such a bootlicking sycophant.

I was confident that someone would point it out and thought why not me.

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Did he really call Trump a “lunchable” at the end?

Is the idea that people will be able to eat Trump for lunch?  (not literally)

(Should I know who Isaiah Martin is?)

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    4. 4.

      WaterGirl

      @eclare:

      TCFG isn’t even a full meal, barely a snack.

      Of course!  Is that a thing people say?  Calling people lunchables?   Or is this an Isaiah Martin original?  (whoever he is!)

      It made me laugh.

      Reply
    5. 5.

      lamh47

      Well, I thought the most interesting news for me today would be me getting a new car…but damn! I was barely home more than an hour before the dang Mark Robinson news and everythign else that followed. Shoot what they gon have left for the “October Surprise”

      @PettyLupone

      Today was LIT. -Sean O’Brien got dragged by former Teamsters prez Jim Hoffa. -Mark Robinson is an abomination. Bless. -Olivia Nuzzi is LOOSE. -trump is still quite deranged. -Kamala, Oprah and many other fabulous folks participated in a historic town hall. Did I miss anything?

      Reply
    8. 8.

      eclare

      @WaterGirl:

      I haven’t heard people described as Lunchables, but that is my best guess of what it means.

      Now a snack can be someone that you think is hot, but that is not what I meant here.

      Reply
    10. 10.

      Chet Murthy

      Following links from his Twitter profile, I see that he ran for Congress in TX.  He’s a youg guy, just getting started in the biz, I think.

      Reply
    12. 12.

      Ceci n est pas mon nym

      Just spent a wonderful evening with a roomful of Quakers, many of them dedicated, many-times-arrested activists. It was the premier of this film about non-violent activist hero George Lakey. He’s not just an old guy (now 86) who does marches. He’s a guy who has studied non-violent movements and has trained activists all around the world. In 2020 he became seriously convinced that we could be facing a coup, and began organizing to fight it using lessons from recent history on civilian populations who had successfully overcome coups with non-violence.

      He and the people he’s mentored are now watching the next election and gaming out both election scenarios, what to expect and what to do about it.

      Reply
    13. 13.

      Ohio Mom

      Lunchables is what Ohio Son’s elementary school cafeteria gave to students who didn’t bring lunch or have any money in their lunch account.

      So, a lunchable is easy to give away because it has very little worth?

      I’m not sure I understand the metaphor but if it’s insulting Trump, I like it.

      Reply
    14. 14.

      CatFacts

      Good lord, it’s the political gossip Thursday night news dump. I was just browsing Ken White’s Bluesky account. Apparently Rufo’s email was found on Ashley Madison along with Robinson’s, and Olivia Nuzzi’s on leave from being a pundit because she was sleeping with RFK Jr.

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    15. 15.

      trnc

      @CatFacts: If Cheryl Hines leaves him over that, I can watch Curb Your Enthusiasm again without holding that against her.​
       

      ETA: And, of course, Hillary warned us in 2016 about electing someone you could bait with a tweet.

      Reply
    16. 16.

      NotMax

      OT whoops-a-daisy.

      Volkswagen ID.4 production halted in the US after its doors wouldn’t stay closed

      The company recalled nearly 100,000 EVs after faulty doors were reported. Source

      Reply
    21. 21.

      lamh47

      Chile..Ya’ll already know the broadcast political media ain’t touching this Olivia Nuzzi/RFKJr story right? Outside of headline reading. This shit hits too close to home. ya’ll think Morning Joe gonna report on this…Joey Scar and Mika ain’t touching this one. Also this involves one of their own.

      Reply
    27. 27.

      OGLiberal

      @trnc: The whole Cheryl Hines thing is puzzling but think her character on Curb was based on Laurie David and don’t think she’s attached to any lunatics.  Why Hines is with that loon?  No idea.

      Many years ago I read a Bob Jr. book on the environment.  Thought it was good.  Promising.  Didn’t know he was a dick.

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    28. 28.

      lamh47

      Statement from Nuzzi as told to one of her political journalist friends of course:

      @CorbinBolies

      SCOOP: @Olivianuzzi’s statement on Oliver Darcy’s report tonight regarding the RFK relationship: Earlier this year, the nature of some communication between myself and a former reporting subject turned personal. During that time, I did not directly report on the subject nor use them as a source. The relationship was never physical but should have been disclosed to prevent the appearance of a conflict. I deeply regret not doing so immediately and apologize to those I’ve disappointed, especially my colleagues at New York. https://x.com/CorbinBolies/status/1836970004756975970

      Soooo..”never physical”…chile..so either online sex or phone sex or sexy FT…smh

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    35. 35.

      lamh47

      The fact that Nuzzi was one of the primary “Biden too old” journos and learning she “not physically” was messing around with 71 year ole RFKJr says alot about the fakeness of political media and nothing good…smh

      And folks going back to review old articles and tweets and it’s soo like…well damn.

      Reply
    37. 37.

      BR

      I’ve been saying it’s time to bring back “weird” — I wrote to Josh Marshall earlier and he just tweeted it, because, yeah, there’s some weird stuff going on.

      Reply
    40. 40.

      karen marie

      Take a break from Trump with a poem by Plague Poems on Mastodon:

       

      Whenever I see a headline
      about how
      life expectancy keeps dropping
      I have to remind myself
      that this doesn’t mean people
      are expecting less from life,
      but that people
      can’t expect to live as long,
      though I suppose
      for many of us
      our life expectancy is dropping
      in both ways.

      Reply
    47. 47.

      piratedan

      @eclare: he stated that he was staying in and the NCGOP had a press release supporting him as their candidate and claiming that this is a political hit job.

      I hope that some very savvy Dem candidates seize the opportunity to tie their opponents to him and help make Robinson part of the referendum.  Its 47 days til election day, if the NC GOP is going to support Robinson, make their candidates embrace him.

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    61. 61.

      lamh47

      @HumboldtBlue: aha…I saw that from Haberman…so rich after the Nuzzi news…

      TBH, I am distrustful of any type of access journalism…so Haberman bothers me as much as Nuzzi does…Haberman journolsitic fluffing of Chump was so evident

      She’s more mad that all that fluffing didn’t amount to more money or even a bestselling book.  Instead she is forever tainted by all that fluffing.

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    64. 64.

      tam1MI

      @CatFacts:Apparently Rufo’s email was found on Ashley Madison along with Robinson’s

      I recently saw a documentary about the Ashley Madison scandal from a few years back, and towards the end the company’s new CEO was seen in an interview smarmily boasting that now the site had airtight security and anybody who went there was safe as houses from exposure blah blah blah.  It’s clear now that was a pile of crap.

      Reply
    69. 69.

      jonas

      This is basically the same scam as running Herschel Walker in Georgia in 2022. They find a bugfuck nuts Uncle Ruckus caricature willing to run as a Republican and MAGA gets behind them not because they actually support a Black conservative candidate, but because they want to troll Democrats who support progressive Black candidates. It’s a huge, incredibly racist joke to them.

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    70. 70.

      danielx

      @HumboldtBlue: ​
       

      Maggie Haberman tells NPR that there is an “industry” dedicated to “attacking the media” from the left for its Trump coverage, which is “undermining faith” in journalism.

      Well, Mags, it would help if you and your colleagues could bring yourselves to call a spade a fucking shovel. You know, just once in a while.

      Reply
    71. 71.

      Captain C

      @eclare: I think usually it implies forgetting to turn off your camera before Toobin’ while at a work meeting but in this case I think the level of sleaze here makes it work.

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    72. 72.

      lamh47

      Dafuq..

       

      @NomikiKonst

      I’m gonna leave this here: maybe, just maybe, consider RFK’s role as a 70 year old on a 31 year old female reporter. Like y’all are self proclaimed feminists but on Twitter just are full on bullies.
      https://x.com/NomikiKonst/status/1836965398933024975

      Dafuq…she 3-fuqn’-1… It started LAST year so maybe she was 30, but not some “young naive” girl who was hoodwinked by an older man…SHE’S IS A REPORTER..and engaged at that.

      Gawd…I know there will be folks to defend, but miss me with bullshit like this…I’m insulted as a woman.  Like damn at what point is anyone deemed old enough to be responsible for her own decisions…smh..

      Thank goodness other women are giving her pushback on this bullshit…smh

      @mysteriouskat

      At what point are women adults who are responsible for their own decisions, or is feminism about making women children with no agency forever? Including the inability not to cheat on their partners?

      @rebeccasev7

      Exactly, she is only a 31 year old child, true feminists know that you’re only an adult woman when you turn 40.

      Of course she’s from the Young Turks…smh

      Reply
    73. 73.

      lamh47

      @brianstelter

      A person with direct knowledge of the matter says the relationship between Nuzzi and RFK Jr. was emotional and digital in nature, not physical. Both sides have also said on the record that it was never physical in nature.

      “emotional and digital in nature”…sooo…that makes it ok then?  I’d think their respective signficant others would beg to differ if they didn’t already know…SMH

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    75. 75.

      KatKapCC

      @lamh47: There are people who insist that everyone is basically a literal infant until they’re 25 and “their brains finish developing” or whatever, as though the entirety of brain development occurs on your 25th birthday. Now it seems they’re trying to stretch that even later. Maybe women get to be considered adults after menopause.

      Reply
    76. 76.

      jonas

      @lamh47: As I’ve written here before, the problem with Haberman isn’t that she’s a naive stenographer or “fluffer.” If you read the stories she files, they’re usually along the lines of “Trump does X batshit insane thing today and is completely losing it.” The problem is that she sees herself as this detached, objective anthropologist and Mar-A-Lago is this primitive African village where she observes the strange natives and their ochre-faced chieftain in their indigenous surroundings, occasionally dispatching notes and observations about their odd rites and utterances back to the Oxford Explorers Club NYT. Consequently, her reporting is less about, you know, the fundamental threat of a straight-up fascist returning to the Oval Office, and more about what Melania’s assistants are gossiping about or how Trump threw a dinner service at one of his campaign staffers when they brought him bad news in a recent poll, and that this could affect his mood at a rally in Wisconsin later this evening.

      Sort of like focusing on Hitler’s plans for Christmas this year with Eva Braun and burying the lede about his plan to kill everyone in the continuation on A21.

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    85. 85.

      gwangung

      @K-Mo: If there’s an industry, it’s because there’s an audience for that, i.e., people on the left who wants the current press to be destroyed in the marketplace.

      Perhaps they should think WHY there is demand on the left to see the current press demolished—cause there aint no industry if there’s no buyers.

      Reply
    88. 88.

      Shalimar

      @lamh47: Jesus.  Donald Trump is a textbook narcissist.  He has no empathy.  He has no humanity.  You can’t humanize a sociopath.  This is what was so weird about her friendship with Milo too.  He’s another obvious sociopath.

      Reply
    94. 94.

      West of the Rockies

      @Shalimar:

      Of  course, big age-gap relationships can work (I’m glad your parents’ has).  But 31 & 50 (her fiance) and 31 & 70 (Kennedy) to me suggests a strange predilection.  YMMV.

      Reply
    95. 95.

      HumboldtBlue

      Yesterday was a pretty incredible news week. Here’s a recap:

      – VP Kamala Harris did a rally with Oprah, it was a hit!
      – Trump said anti-Semitic things to Jewish people at an anti-anti-Semitism event
      – Trump’s anti-Semitic endorsement who became the NC gubernatorial nominee Mark Robinson just got revealed as the Black Nazi who loves bisexual sex when he’s not preaching against LGBTQ people or getting one of his beloved golden showers while cheating on his wife with her sister, and he got caught on the AshleyMadison cheat on your wife website database
      – Right wing journalist Olivia Nuzzi revealed an improper personal relationship with RFK Jr. after New York Magazine suspended her.
      – Right wing propagandist Christopher Rufo also got caught in the Ashley Madison database looking to cheat on his wife, whom he admitted to being an undocumented immigrant from Thailand 2018 Facebook post after his years of supporting racial hatred against immigrants.
      – The House Republican impeachment machine got torn to bloody shreds in full view of the public, as did their brilliant idea of bringing the people who wrote Project 2025 on to testify

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    100. 100.

      Darkrose

      @lamh47: Even better; now she’s claiming that the pushback is from Putin:

      @NomikiKonst

      Within one hour of posting this, a psychotic barrage of (foreign influence) posts responded saying exactly the same thing: she was an adult. As if predatory action is age discriminate. Wanna tell Putin his cultural translations aren’t working? Nobody in the US sees it that way.

      Reply
    101. 101.

      Rob J.

      Is the idea that people will be able to eat Trump for lunch? (not literally)

      I’m pretty sure that Robert F. Kennedy Jr. would literally eat Trump for lunch if given the chance.

      Reply
    102. 102.

      trollhattan

      This is fucking rich.

      Tommy Frederick Allan, a Rocklin man convicted of one felony count of obstructing an official proceeding for his participation in the January 6th insurrection at the U.S. Capitol, is now an instructor at Liberty Learning Ministries, a Christian education program run through The Family Church in Roseville.

      Allan was one of thousands of protesters who stormed the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021 in support of former President Donald Trump, who believed the 2020 election was “stolen” from him when he lost to President Joe Biden. Allan climbed a wall to enter the Capitol and was one of the few insurrectionists to enter the Senate chambers, where he stood at the dais with a stolen American flag and other protesters, including the so-called “QAnon Shaman.” According to the Federal Bureau of Prisons, he was released in May of this year.

      Now, he is an instructor of art and photography in a classroom setting for 6th-12th grade students. The Sacramento Bee confirmed Allan and his wife, Hollie, both teach in the program. A “Mr. Allan” is listed on the website as an elective teacher for students in 6th-12th grades. An August 28 Liberty Learning Ministries Instagram post shows Allan standing in a classroom with “Welcome to Mr. Allan’s Class!” written on a whiteboard, with a caption indicating that the photos were from “Back to Liberty Night.” The school, which is privately funded and independently run, is a private membership association, and not accredited.

      Children enrolled in the program are called “learners,” not students. The program website emphasizes that Liberty Learning Ministries is not a school — “it’s better.” “Learners” are taught in a “multi-age classroom” setting, and programs are offered for students from transitional kindergarten through 12th grade with the Abeka Christian school and homeschooling curriculum. “Liberty Learning is not accredited but provides a faith-based education that goes beyond the classroom and focuses not only on academics, but character, morals, and good citizenship,” the website states.

      According to the program website, Liberty Learning Ministries is also “committed to medical freedom and no vaccinations, or medical records, are required to enroll.”
      https://www.sacbee.com/news/politics-government/capitol-alert/article292625699.html#storylink=cpy

      Can I get a yee?
      Yee!
      Can I get a haw?
      Haw!
      What’s that spell?
      Jeebuz!
      What did you say?
      Jeebuz!
      Now that’s just art.
      Selah

      Reply
    103. 103.

      OGLiberal

      @jonas: Yes, she finds Trump crazy but quaint, rather than a risk to humanity.  Because people of privilege like her think the hammer will never come down on them. It’s a bit like gun nuts think authoritarians will let them keep their guns forever because they spew 2A BS to get votes.  They will take your guns.

      Reply
    105. 105.

      patrick II

      @jonas: Nice insight and beautifully written.

      I think we have been overlooking Kim Jong-un and his love letters and Trump threatening to pull troops from South Korea.  It was so hard to believe Trump actually said Kim loved him.  Just stupid past words.

      Reply
    108. 108.

      HumboldtBlue

      @Yutsano: ​ 

      Right behind you.

      One eyewitness cited in the court filings, a young woman referred to as K.M., provided a sworn affidavit that claimed the teenage girl was naked, partygoers were there to “engage in sexual activities,” and “alcohol, cocaine, ecstasy… and marijuana” were present. The teenage girl was identified in the filings only as A.B.

      “The discovery taken in this case to date reflects that on Saturday, July 15, 2017… Dorworth, hosted a party at his residence… with the following guests present: (1) A.B.; (2) K.M.; (3) B.G.; (4) Matt Gaetz,” lawyers wrote in the filing, also listing several others. The defense lawyers filed testimonies from those three women — who the attorneys say placed Gaetz at Dorworth’s house that night — under seal pending a judge’s approval to make the records public.

      Additionally, Gaetz’s own ex-girlfriend — who was present at the party — provided testimony that lawyers say rebuts Dorworth’s claims that he was not there. NOTUS independently verified that Gaetz and one of the women who testified were previously involved in a relationship; she is only identified in the court filing by her initials, B.G.

      The congressman’s ex-girlfriend’s 11th-hour testimony on Sept. 3 came just two days before Dorworth dropped his lawsuit, defense attorneys said in the filing. The defense lawyers also relied on Dorworth’s geolocated cell phone records, which showed that he communicated constantly with the congressman that day. The defense’s court filings show a hired digital forensic examiner identified Gaetz’s number, which has a Florida panhandle 850 area code and texted back-and-forth 30 times that day then called Dorworth twice in the hours before the evening revelry.“B.G., another attendee at that party, confirmed A.B.’s testimony under penalty of perjury,” defense lawyers wrote.

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    110. 110.

      piratedan

      @HumboldtBlue: OUCH!

      yeah, what kind of peeps are these that are having underage girls nekkid at a party and you bring your girlfriend to the proceedings?

      Maybe that’s representative of the Florida district that Gaetz represents but damn!!!!!!!!!!

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    111. 111.

      piratedan

      so… I’m sitting here well buzzed and lets try and sum up the day shall we?

      PDiddy – charged, denied bail because he’s a flight risk and has at least 4 digits of baby oil at his disposal for his personal use, which apparently involves human trafficking and may or may not include minors.

      Gaetz – New charges filed that place him at a party with naked underage women.  Looks like the DA has received affidavits from participants (including the underage girl) that place Gaetz at the scene with his girlfriend.

      Nuzzi – admits to an improper relationship with a source from one of her article subjects (RFK, Jr) and has been suspended by her employer.  Expect this to rouse some buzzing from the punditrocracy as this will cause a circling of wagons and questioning of ethics in journalism.

      Rufo – had his ass outed as signing up to Ashley Madison (the noted cheaters hookup site) at roughly the same time as the birth of his first child from his illegal immigrant spouse

      Robinson – the NC GOP Gov candidate – outed as a purveyor of porn involving trans peeps, while also publicly stating that they are an abomination.  Also self described himself on a specific porn site as a Black Nazi.  Also wrote of encounters that involved him peeping on girls when he was in Middle school and a supposed affair/fanfic of fucking his own sister-in-law.  Also outed as an Ashley Madison client.  Bonus! the state GOP stands behind him!

      Trump – Spoke to a GOP friendly Jewish group and then told them that if he doesn’t win it’ll be their fault for not supporting him enough

      Vance – ran away from further questioning about his own statements and the Robinson revelations.

      also too – Harris and Walz had great interactions today, Walz in NC and Harris on Oprah.

      Reply
    114. 114.

      karen marie

      @piratedan: I missed Vance running away.  I’m appalled that the reporting has focused on their refusal to acknowledge reality instead of the terror they’re inflicting on innocent residents of Ohio.

      Reply
    115. 115.

      karen marie

      Speaking of journalism:

      “[Horace] Greeley’s Tribune and Greeley the tribune would rise together over the next 30 years, paper and person often indistinguishable. The Tribune would never be the newsgathering operation that Bennett’s Herald was, nor would it match the Herald’s circulation in New York City itself. Instead, Greeley would use the city as a platform from which to project an editorial voice outward, to the country beyond. By the eve of the Civil War, the Tribune was reaching a quarter of a million subscribers and many more readers across the northern United States, and Greeley was the most visible and influential newspaper editor in the country. He was, by his own description, a “Public Teacher,” an “oracle” on the Hudson, “exert[ing] a resistless influence over public opinion … creating a community of thought of feeling … giving the right direction to it.” This was the work of journalism.

      The idea landed with many of the readers who received the Tribune’s weekly edition. They regarded it as they would their own local weeklies: written, composed, and printed by one person. Greeley, in their belief, produced every word. He did little to discourage such impressions, even as the paper became a strikingly modern operation with a corps of editors, armies of compositors and printers, and massive steam-powered presses. “For whatever is distinctive in the views or doctrines of The Tribune,” he wrote in 1847, “there is but one person responsible.”

      Horace Greeley never quite fixed popular newspapers, or the society that spawned them. The Herald continued to thrive, Bennett continued to bluster, crimes and calamities continued to happen. But Greeley did change newspapers. In making the Tribune into a clearinghouse of information as well as ideas, he made reform-minded, opinion-driven journalism commercially viable, and invented the persona of the crusading journalist. For the next three decades, until his death in 1872, Greeley would demonstrate the power—and limits—of that model.”

      The Smithsonian Magazine has a lot of excellent writing.

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    116. 116.

      Shalimar

      @piratedan: The party in question took place in the Orlando area, not in Gaetz’s district.  At least some of the DUIs when he was in his 20s were in his later district (rich daddy got the police officer who gave him the ticket fired over one of them) but he mostly seems to have partied in other parts of the state.  Why supposedly conservative Christians vote for this perpetual frat boy, I have no clue.

      Reply
    119. 119.

      Chris Johnson

      @lamh47: So Nuzzi is defending Trump, having sex with RFK Jr, and getting defended by people from the Young Turks?

      Yeah, working for Putin. In fact she was pushing Kenyan memes back in 2015. Working for Putin this whole time. Sometimes they’re as obvious as Tim Pool and Dave Rubin, sometimes they’re a little sneakier. Apparently if they’re female they can also play other roles besides ‘journalist’.

      Business as usual, whacked another mole.

      Reply
    121. 121.

      Ken

      @HumboldtBlue: Maggie Haberman tells NPR that there is an “industry” dedicated to “attacking the media” from the left for its Trump coverage

      And we know it’s from the left, because they use the same dastardly tactic as when attacking Trump: They quote.

      Sometimes they even combine the attacks, by showing a quote of what Trump said next to a quote from the media report of what Trump said.

      Reply
    122. 122.

      mappy!

      Haberman seems a little rattled. A dedicated industry? That’s a bit Habermanic. She’s moved into Leftist Conspiracies (projection), which kinda telegraphs where he’s coming from I guess.

      Haberman’s role at the Judith Miller rag seems to be the role of the stenographer who’s sole purpose is to sanitize insider gossip. She’s probably leaving the gobsmacking stuff for the book, “I saw him start to descend into complete incoherence when she told me….” Remember: Don’t buy the book.

      Reply
    125. 125.

      RevRick

      @eclare:

      @WaterGirl:

      Lunchables are high carb, high fat, high salt combinations of processed meat, cheese and crackers wrapped in plastic containers and sold at convenience stores for people can’t be bothered to prepare a decent midday meal.
      My wife taught kindergarten in a private school and she and her colleagues were always appalled when kids got sent to school with them for lunch.

      Reply
    128. 128.

      wjca

      @HumboldtBlue: SisterGoldenBear mentioned Cal Football Twitter, and it keeps getting better and better. 

      It’s part of an old Cal tradition.  I recall a relatively moderate political group in the late 60s who styled themselves

      The Vanguard of the Masses at Berkeley

      As I say, not anything like are seriously left wing group.  Just kids being sarcastic about the MSM image of our school.

      Reply
    129. 129.

      wjca

      @piratedan:

      Also

      @Yutsano: Jeez. I’m busy all day today and shit about Matt Gaetz drops.

       

      @HumboldtBlue:  sworn affidavit that claimed the teenage girl was naked, partygoers were there to “engage in sexual activities,”

      The text Yutsano links to say “the 17-year-old girl at the center of the alleged sex trafficking scandal”.  I’m guessing that the age of consent is Florida is 16.  So, could have been worse.  That time.

      Reply
    130. 130.

      Captain C

      @Baud: If it kept all three of them distracted and out of anywhere near the White House I would defend that.  Wouldn’t want to see it, or even know about it, but…

      Reply

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