Seems like everyone is talking about the rally with Oprah and Kamala. Is there a good place to watch it?
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Seems like everyone is talking about the rally with Oprah and Kamala. Is there a good place to watch it?
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lamh47
YouTube. Oprah’s YT has no chatbox…Kamala Harris does and trolls are there of course.
David 🐝KHive🐝 Koch
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lamh47
Yup…and this is why this format is smart. On the one hand I wish it was on the broadcast nets, but also it’s reaching the audience she needs and not allowing the MSM to make the narratives they’ve been trying to make against her.I also love that she has segments with celeb guest asking questions, because the celebs brings the views!!! If not the young folk, then the age range of folks who do follow and lsiten to celeb blogs and mags and entertainment.
KatKapCC
@lamh47: I always immediately close the live chat. In addition to trolls, it scrolls by so fast that it drives me batty.
zhena gogolia
I’m watching on KH’s Youtube, chat turned off.
I see they have the chat disabled anyway.
lamh47
She’s right…as a Black person, don’t assume I’m American, but once they do realize it… When PBO was in office literally a monk at an India temple we visited when we were in India heard we were from America and was like “Obama” with a thumbs up! No other English words…
zhena gogolia
@lamh47: Thanks, I missed that, that was great.
lamh47
Ok…that was fantastic.
I already know the calls of “she’s so scripted” will come in…but actually she was great and not scripted to me…
Cause this sure wasn’t scripted:
Damn right. Black folk are allowed to stand their ground just like white folks do. Now, I’m a single lady, if some masked fool tries to break into my house, I sure ain’t gonna ask “are you Black” first…nah..
KatKapCC
Love that Harris immediately went to Amber Thurman’s family, and Hadley, and the young girl who survived the school shooting, to give them hugs and talk to them. That’s what it looks like when you actually give a damn about other people.
lamh47
From Meryl’s lips to gawd’s ears…LOL
lamh47
Closing statement:
KatKapCC
@lamh47: Honestly, it was a funny moment. Right after she was like “I probably shouldn’t have said that! My staff will deal with that later!”
Andrew Abshier
I was on a Whatsapp with a Brazilian friend so only saw snippets, but the whole thing looked great visually. I think MVP did very well.
SiubhanDuinne
Just got off; didn’t realise folks were chatting about it here or I would have used a different device. The 90 minutes went by really quickly, and it was a nicely-balanced mix of pathos and upbeat, celebrities and ordinary folks, politicians and constituents. Kamala continues to impress with her easy mastery of the issues and ability to talk peer-to-peer with anyone. I’m not a big Oprah fan — she can really get under my last nerve in short order — but I must admit she was the absolutely right person to host tonight’s event.
Ishiyama
@KatKapCC: That remark was unscripted, it was spontaneous, and it was genius! Who could imagine Trump defending his own person in similar circumstances? Toughness shows.
eclare
@lamh47:
I heard Sec Pete on some talk show, and he said Republicans want freedom from: from paying taxes, from regulations, from gun laws, etc. Whereas Democrats want freedom to: to live in safety, to love who we love, to have health care regardless of job/income status, etc. I wonder if that is where Harris got the idea.
Doesn’t matter where she got the idea, of course, it’s brilliant.
WaterGirl
@SiubhanDuinne: I apparently missed the whole thing!
lamh47
@SiubhanDuinne: I know folks love to hate on Oprah, and I tend to let that go (having said that, compared to many crappy billionaires, hatred of Oprah really sticks in my craw…cause there are worse folks), but Oprah was #1 in daytime for a reason and the heir apparent to Barbara Walters for sit downs.
She def knows what she’s doing and how to do it well!
KatKapCC
@Ishiyama: Trump would probably hide in a closet. Which, to be fair, so would I, but I’m also not strutting around talking about how I’m the toughest person on Earth.
KatKapCC
@lamh47: Also, Oprah has a HUGE following and they are DEVOTED. And I’d bet she has a good number of independents and Republicans among her fans. If they follow her advice to buy overpriced wellness junk, hopefully they’ll follow it now too.
Doc Sardonic
Didn’t watch any of it, however I think she and Tim need to hit their gun credibility. We have taken a bunch of stuff back from the Republicans already, time to take back capital R responsible gun ownership and common sense gun laws
lamh47
@KatKapCC: Right…like…is you are a legal gun owner for protection, what dafuq they expect you to do if someone trying to break into your house?
the issue I’d say is NOT folks “standing their ground” for real threats, but it’s when they do so and there was no threat jsut bias and prejudice and there being no consequences when it’s an obviously racially or motivated by bias
WaterGirl
@lamh47: Oprah did a nice job interviewing Harry and Meghan outside somewhere in the past few years.
comrade scotts agenda of rage
Wow. That’s powerful. Hope they find a way to use that more.
Ishiyama
She is repeating the same message that she gives in her stump speech in her responses to the same questions; it’s called campaigning. Of course she knows what she wants to say before she opens her mouth, unlike Trump. She drives her message home by repetition.
lamh47
@WaterGirl: she knows how to interview!
KatKapCC
@Doc Sardonic: She did talk about it, that’s where her “if you break into my house, you’re getting shot” joke came from.
SiubhanDuinne
@lamh47:
No question about that! She’s incredibly talented, and I don’t hate on her at all — just not my cup of tea. I’m very glad I watched the whole thing tonight.
P.S. Congrats on the new car! It’s a beauty!
Doc Sardonic
That was good. My point is talk about it more, I realize we are in a compressed campaign format now, but guns resonate with people and we need to grab the Republicans by the throat with it and kick them in the balls with their thoughts and prayers bullshit till their nose bleeds. No child needs to go to, nor parent needs to send their child to school with either wondering if they will see each other for dinner
lamh47
@Ishiyama: Sure we all know what it is…but her campaign is not allowing the media to set any narratives so any time the faux news crowd tries to set the next dig, they use it as if it’s legit critique when truly they just mad the Harris/Walz campaign is going around them.
zhena gogolia
@Doc Sardonic: Yes.
lamh47
Hell yes!!
lamh47
Love this backstage footage, but also…the color on Oprah and Kamala are GORG!!
Scout211
Here’s some good news for your evening:
lamh47
Here’s the clip with Amber Thurman’s family:
https://x.com/iamchanteezy/status/1836953316611244317
Sister Golden Bear
I’m having fun going down rabbit hole of #Calgorithm over at Twitter. Sports fan nationwide are discovering Cal (UC Berkeley) football fans are championship-level shitposters.
Partly because we’re having fun leaning into the stereotypes about being the little pinko schoolhouse on the hill, e.g. memes about how after defeating Auburn we seized the stadium in the name of Antifa; how our defense, which leads the nation in interceptions, is forcibly redistributing possessions; holding DEI workshops at half-time, etc.
We’re especially having fun with this weekend’s game against Florida State:
The Pac-12 wasn’t about playing wacky football at midnight, it was about keeping the power of Dark Oski in check. But now that we’ve escaped the containment field…
Redshift
@eclare:
It may have come from Timothy Snyder’s new book “On Freedom.” I saw him on Maddow and he was talking in those terms. I agree it’s brilliant and insightful.
lamh47
Oprah’s final statement:
KatKapCC
@Scout211: That’s wonderful.
lamh47
Uh whoa…not on my bingo card!
BR
This JD Vance parody is seriously off the wall:
https://www.tiktok.com/@crabman732/video/7416456589479021855
Redshift
@lamh47:
Exactly. I’d much rather we didn’t have so many guns in this country, but if you feel you need one to protect your home, that’s the last thing I’m going to object to.
The “castle doctrine” in its basic form was not unreasonable. Extending it to a right to shoot anywhere you feel threatened, and eliminating the requirement that you had to attempt to retreat, is just insanity, a license to kill for assholes.
lamh47
@SiubhanDuinne: Thx…I’m excited!
Sister Golden Bear
@eclare: Republican also want the freedom to be racists, sexiest, homophobic, transphobic, control over people’s lives, and generally be complete assholes—without any consequences.
Chet Murthy
@lamh47: Oh god! Eeew! [narrator: wait’ll he figures out that the jamoke is married to Cheryl Hines] oh NO! AUUUGH!
KatKapCC
@lamh47: Hoooooooooly heck.
I didn’t like Nuzzi’s work much anyway, but like…if you are this stupid, you do not deserve to be in a job where you are essentially explaining things to people.
Eolirin
@Sister Golden Bear: That’s still a from. It’s freedom from consequences. They’re able to be all the other things already. First amendment protects it (well, not the control other people’s lives bit, but all the rest). They’re just going to suffer consequences, and that’s the bit they’re not okay with.
ETtheLibrarian
So CNN dropping that story on the last day to pull you namevoff the ballot is epic. Josh at TPM was talking about the rumors and thought more soon than now.
Sister Golden Bear
@Doc Sardonic: Worth noting the reason Harris owned/owns a gun it that she was a prosecutor. So someone breaking into her house is an obvious potential threat.
WaterGirl
@KatKapCC: Does Oprah still have a huge fan base who follow her and do what she suggests? Just asking, not challenging, because I have no idea what Oprah is up to these days.
sdhays
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TS
@David 🐝KHive🐝 Koch:
TY I just started watching – while reading about what I will be seeing
tam1MI
Fox News sure must be glad the Robinson scandal is getting all the publicity.
Gin & Tonic
@KatKapCC:
Plus he’s nearly old enough to be her grandfather. I know there’s no accounting for lust, and we want to be tolerant here, but … ick.
BR
@WaterGirl:
I was wondering the same thing. She hasn’t been on air for a long time at this point. Her core audience has to be 50+ at this point — folks who watched her in the ’90s and ’00s.
eclare
@Redshift:
Thanks for the info!
HumboldtBlue
Trump making friends with the Jews… (there is more of this, and it’s all theater of the absurd)
KatKapCC
@WaterGirl: She’s had a number of shows on Apple TV, and still has her magazine and I think the book club, too. Got this bit from wikipedia:
So she definitely still has her fans!
WaterGirl
@lamh47: I think you spelled WTF? wrong. :-)
KatKapCC
@Gin & Tonic: I will say, I’ve had a couple of girlfriends in the past who were a good deal older than me. But, you know…they also weren’t disgusting crazy pigs.
eclare
@lamh47:
Whoa! Is this enough, Cheryl?
eclare
@Sister Golden Bear:
True.
WaterGirl
@KatKapCC: Yes, she apparently does!
lamh47
@KatKapCC:
started after Nov 2023 so he was BIG married!!!! I thought they were gonna say during a break or even seperation or even before him and Hines got married?
But Nuzzi isn’t that young…but still.
BR
The remix folks on TikTok are already on it with Oprah and Harris:
https://www.tiktok.com/@casadimusic/video/7416544417693158698
Gin & Tonic
@KatKapCC:
39 years older? Really?
Dude is my age, almost exactly. Nuzzi is six years younger than my youngest child.
Again … ick.
Doc Sardonic
@Sister Golden Bear: Absolutely…I would find anyone in that position that did not avail themselves of the ability and means to protect themselves foolish. Kamala Harris is not foolish, she appears to me as a very grounded, pragmatic, clear headed individual, one that you underestimate at your own peril.
lamh47
@KatKapCC: WAIT!!!!! SHE’S ENGAGED TO RYAN LIZZA!!!
DAFUQ!
eclare
@lamh47:
Cheryl and RFK Jr. were married in 2014.
WaterGirl
@eclare: Aren’t they both married?
edit; nope, got engaged in 2022. guess they aren’t rushing to be married.
lamh47
@WaterGirl: she’s engaged to Ryan Lizza!
lamh47
@eclare: Jeezus Christ…smh
He’s a P.O.S. She’s a P.O.S…smh.
2023!!!!
Who dafuq needs a soap opera when real life give ya this!!!
Kyle Rayner
I don’t think Harris’s thing about “I shouldn’t have said that” was purely about being a Democrat who shouldn’t talk about using guns or home-defense being an unpopular idea with Democrats. It’s tricky saying some perfectly reasonable things when you’re a woman, and it’s tricky to say those same reasonable things when you’re a black woman (for additional and nearly opposite reasons). That soothing may have been her natural non-politician learned reaction to accidentally saying anything that could be construed as aggressive.
Displaying some embarrassment immediately after might actually make it play better with many people than it otherwise would have, even with gun owners who agree with the self-defense sentiment. Plenty of liberals are still biased about what is permissible for women to express unabashedly.
(+ Bonus points for comedy. Everyone seems to find the whole bit amusing and endearing.)
SiubhanDuinne
@Gin & Tonic:
And Nuzzi, in turn, has been engaged to Ryan Lizza* for the past two years.
*He’s the writer whom Anthony Scaramucci subjected to that long, batshit, incredibly unhinged phone rant during his (Mooch’s) brief tenure in TCFFG’s White House. These people are all just icky and … weird.
ETA: And lamh got to it first, while I was still typing!
Jackie
Meanwhile…
HumboldtBlue
When Jimmy Hoffa’s son calls you out for being a dumbass — looking at you, Sean O’Brien — you know you’re a dumbass.
Also too:
WaterGirl
@Kyle Rayner: Interesting take on it. Harris is handling all the complications with grace.
Scout211
@SiubhanDuinne: Ryan Lizza is also the guy who was let go from The New Yorker in 2017 for “sexual misconduct.”
CaseyL
RFK Jr is a sex pest from way back. Maybe not as compulsive as his uncles, but his infidelities are legion and go back years.
Darkrose
@Sister Golden Bear: I don’t follow college football, but I’m cheering for the Berkeley team against Florida–and I’m a Stanford alum, so that’s saying something!
cain
My wife came home from the school today in tears. She has been talking to all of these afghanistani refugees. Her heart just breaks because these poor parents. They’ve come here. They have no clothes, nothing warm.
Whatever they got back from Afghanistan that’s all they have. We are trying to figure out how we can make sure when the winter months come, that they have warm clothes.
They have limited clothes for the kids that they have some way to survive the coming months. They’ve come all the way from Afghanistan as refugees and it’s so hard for them. They don’t know the language. They’re trying to survive.
So we are trying to take up a collection. Trying to get clothes trying to get things that they can use so that they can survive for the next coming year. It’s so hard for these kids. They tell her that oh we don’t need anything. But their parents they’ve got a lot of concerns.
Maybe later we could talk about how we could find some way to help these Afghanistani refugees?
Kyle Rayner
@WaterGirl: She really is. She’s vaulting, she’s twisting, she’s sticking the landings. We’re so lucky to have her.
KatKapCC
@Gin & Tonic: Well, no, nowhere near that much older. The biggest gap I had was 16 years.
SiubhanDuinne
@HumboldtBlue:
TS
@HumboldtBlue:
This is how to make friends???
It’s never his fault – always the fault of those who do not worship him.
KatKapCC
@lamh47: Guessing there are some deposits someone won’t be getting back…
eclare
@CaseyL:
Rumored to have caused the suicide of his second wife.
Prometheus Shrugged
@Sister Golden Bear: The poster “Don Grizzell, PhD” has been doing this since the moment Cal joined the ACC. The first one that I saw from this person was showing Cal Bears getting off their plane to Tallahassee holding prominent “Critical Race Theory” textbooks. Absolutely brilliant trolling. The “Woke Walker Stadium” photo, with the entire FSU stadium in Pride colors/flags was also good. The move to the ACC is ridiculous in many respects, but the enhanced visibility provided by ESPN has some benefits.
And if it wasn’t obvious, Go Bears!
SiubhanDuinne
@Scout211:
Yeah. Nice people all the way around.
Chet Murthy
@SiubhanDuinne: I watched a bit before I got bored; he’s wearing a seat belt. It’s tough to see, but he is.
WaterGirl
@cain: I have been so busy lately I have hardly had time to read the threads.
Your wife is back in a school? What about kids from Afghanistan?
Chet Murthy
@cain: I’ve been thinking a bit about the charitable causes I can return to donating to, if we win this election. B/c right now, if I think about giving money to (e.g.) Planned Parenthod, or The Trevor Project, I instantly think: “no, I need to send that to someplace that can use it to win the election.” Sigh.
karen marie
@Ishiyama: As a felon, he cannot possess a firearm.
@lamh47: I threw up in my mouth. I demand content warnings on this site!
KatKapCC
@Jackie: 75% of Jews in this country vote Democratic and have consistently done so, especially because of issues like abortion and health care. Keep dreaming, Donnie.
Mel
@cain: Please, please do. This is so important. Thank you and thank your wife for helping. I wonder if there would be a way to set up fund donations, but also donations of nearly new clothing items (warm coats, sweaters, pants, etc.)?
I have some of the above that I would happily donate.
karen marie
@SiubhanDuinne: I would never vote for someone who taped a campaign ad while driving, but I esp wouldn’t vote for a DA candidate who did that while not wearing a seatbelt! The lack of judgment is disqualifying.
CaseyL
@eclare: Yes, that too. He was awful then, and he’s awful now.
Chet Murthy
@karen marie: Look carefully at his tie. You can see the belt. Also watch the back of his head. When he leans forward, you can see the belt stretch.
KatKapCC
@karen marie: There is clearly a belt across his chest.
Shalimar
@lamh47: I wouldn’t have picked RFK, Jr. specifically but I absolutely thought Nuzzi is a star-fucker who has fucked her profile subjects before. She’s a talented writer but her personal ethics have always been questionable. The way she fawned over Milo Yiannopoulos on her Twitter account a decade ago at the height of Gamergate was absolutely disgusting.
Sister Golden Bear
@Darkrose: Your sacrifice is appreciated. Good luck against Syracuse!
KatKapCC
@Shalimar: I feel like I need to turn in my feminist card over this, but…I’ve seen her on MSNBC a few times, and she has this weird resting facial expression where her lips are slightly pursed and pushed out, almost like she’s getting ready to kiss someone. It looks ridiculous and pathetic. Like, “Look at me, I’m just so hot” or whatever.
Captain C
@lamh47: RFKjr is a real Kavorka Man (warning, TV Tropes link).
rikyrah
@cain:
Amazon wish list?
Origuy
@cain: You should contact the Afghan Coalition. It seems like they could help. Fremont, California is home to the largest Afghan community in North America, so I started by looking for local organizations, but this one is national
ETA. Now I want some Afghan food. Ashak and Kabuli pulao, yum!
gwangung
@Darkrose: God, don’t kill me, but I always want Cal to do well (with the obvious exception of The Big Game).
(But I’m still a bit aghast that the term “Cal weenies” has going out of style with younger students).
prostratedragon
@Scout211: Yay!
Craig
@KatKapCC: I realized I didn’t have a visual reference for her, so Google. From old pictures to current ones she’s clearly shooting filler into her lips. She seems like going to DC cocktail parties and villaging it up have messed up her head.
Kayla Rudbek
@Sister Golden Bear: excellent! And I say this as a Notre Dame fan who didn’t even realize that Cal Berkeley had a football team until I lived in Silicon Valley. I was bewildered by the notion of the Big Game being Stanford versus Cal.
Ruckus
@KatKapCC:
Kamala is a real, live, breathing, smart, HUMAN BEING.
Not some pompous, overweight, semi rich ass, who thinks his exhaust doesn’t stink, that his whiteness and pompous arrogance are all he needs to be supreme, and who has absolutely nothing else to show for himself, other than tiny hands and an inability to even stand up straight because of his shoe lifts, who can’t smile because that makes him look even more phony, is a convicted felon and has a functional IQ of not near enough, and is losing what little operational thought process he might have ever been at one time able to summon with more effort than it took to write War and Peace.