Here’s what’s on the agenda Balloon Juice-wise for today.
We have an Artists in Our Midst post from Dan B at 3 pm. An artist in a different medium!
We have “Take Two” of Jennifer Schiff’s Authors in Our Midst post at 5pm. Rudely interrupted last week by the golf course incident! How can that have only been a week ago?
We have Medium Cool at 7 pm. Song lyrics, I think it could be a good one, but of course you never know.
We have the Double-Angel Matching going on until midnight tonight. I didn’t want to put up another post, so I linked to yesterday’s post in the sidebar. I say “midnight”, but anything that’s in there when I get up early on Monday that’s matchable will be matched.
There’s a new comment policy for Balloon Juice. Everybody please read it. There will be a quiz. The comment policy is in the footer of every page. But here’s a direct link.
And we have car magnets available for order at Cafe Press. Tunch, Dark Tunch, Steve, Dark Steve, Woke not Weird with a peace sign, Woke not Weird with a raised fist (female!) and Woke not Weird Pride version. If you don’t find all of them up there, please let me know.
The Balloon Juice Store looks like crap because Cafe Press took it down, scrambled everything, basically threw all the piece into a box. So it’s functional enough to purchase but will need a lot of work.
Also note that these designs are available in buttons, golf balls, baby bibs, and (apparently) thongs! Cafe Press does that automatically, and beth tries to hide the worst of them, but Cafe Press keeps adding them back in. (We hate Cafe Press.)
What’s on the agenda for you guys?
Open thread!
Ishiyama
Breakfast
Baud
If I don’t read the new comment policy, it can’t be enforced against me.
eclare
I am meeting satby this evening to pick up my new kitty, William! He is one of the five kitties that satby rescued and wrote about a few weeks ago.
WaterGirl
@Ishiyama: West coast or foreign country?
@Baud: Not true! Ignorance of the law is no excuser?
@eclare: So exciting! William is so handsome.
comrade scotts agenda of rage
@eclare:
Thanks to both of you. That’s so great. Post photos at some point!
We’re leaving for Italy in an hour.
Baud
@WaterGirl:
Fine, but I claim future presidential immunity.
eclare
@comrade scotts agenda of rage:
Exciting! Safe travels!
eclare
@Baud:
Hehehe…
comrade scotts agenda of rage
@Baud:
Problem with that is you gotta become president first. Anything will do at this point, HOA, local Hells Angel chapter, etc.
wjca
Wondering if it might not be time for a serious GOTV push in Florida. Not so much for the presidential race (nice as a win there would be) but to take the Senate seat. Scott is so unpopular that the race is already close. And with abortion rights and marijuana legaluzation on the ballot as well, a lot of young voters might be moved, with a little nudge, to show up to vote.
No doubt jackels in Florida have a better handle on how feasible this would be. But with control of the Senate on a knife edge, perhaps some pump priming from here would be money well spent.
Renie
Ugh my neighbor across the street put out a trump sign. Now I have to look at it every day. Always suspected he was a MAGA cuz of the low intelligence idiotic stuff he and his wife say. Luckily I received my Kamala sign which is now going outside my house.
Another annoying issue we have all seen. My sister received from her religious friend a letter put out by the NYS Catholic Conference telling people to vote against Proposal 1 aka Equal Rights Amendment since it permanently legalizes abortions in NYS. My sister showed me and then threw it in the garbage. We need someone strong in gov’t to take a stand against religious organizations getting involved in politics.
Ken
@Baud: The policy has a blanket exemption for us.
Baud
@Ken:
But is it tar and featherable?
Kristine
@eclare: Looking forward to photos!
piratedan
@wjca: at the rate that the GOP is setting itself on fire, I could see it happening. DeSantis has not won many fans by his own activities from what I can gather and it feels like there’s a shift coming where people are absolutely reaching the point of “tired of this shit” when it comes to these idiotic culture war fights that don’t solve anything.
being too online these days, you see signs of the facade cracking nationwide, the race tightening in Iowa? Alaska? Nebraska Senate seat now in play? Texas? TEXAS? and how Cook has moved the NC Governor race from lean D to Likely D… how will that play out downballot as the state GOP continues to embrace Robinson?
Project 2025 is still permeating thru to the normies and they absolutely hate it. The GOP continues to doubledown on Dobbs and confirm that IVF and birth control is Next. Texas trying to turn into East Germany to prevent potentially pregnant women from leaving the state to the point where they’re putting up barbed wire on the state line with New Mexico… just absolutely beyond the pale shit.
WaterGirl
@comrade scotts agenda of rage:
This is the photo of William that we posted with the bleg.
Harrison Wesley
@wjca: If the reactions that the other poll greeters and I witnessed during the primary a few weeks ago are a sign, some Democratic pickup in Florida seems possible. None of us encountered anything other than thumbs up, “Go Blue,” and other encouragement. And this is in Manatee County, which is very heavily Republican in terms of registration.
I’m going to be doing some more of this at the Supervisor of Elections office for early voting and election days. Hope we get the same response.
Kristine
@comrade scotts agenda of rage: Have a great trip!
Hope to visit Italy someday.
Ken
@Baud: It’s all covered by https://xkcd com/1357/.
Elizabelle
@comrade scotts agenda of rage: Lucky dogs! Safe travels, and enjoy!
ETA: Google tells me that is cani fortunati. Singular form is cano fortunato. You will have to come back w some Italian slang. That won’t get you banned.
Harrison Wesley
@Renie: Aren’t they putting their tax exemption at risk with this sort of overt politicking? I guess maybe it depends on how the letter is worded.
Anoniminous
Transferred from previous & dying thread
So furious I’m spitting nails.
Montana Online Voting System Taken Down After Kamala Harris Left Off Absentee Ballots
Anoniminous
@Harrison Wesley:
The International Pedophile Protection Organization, aka “The Roman Catholic Church”, has been getting away with it for hundreds of years so no reason to expect them to get called on it now.
KayInMD (formerly Kay (not the front-pager))
@Ken:
Is that “regularly” as in no more than an average level of annoying, or “regularly” as in day-in-and-day-out?
Matt McIrvin
@Baud: oh, you’re a SOVEREIGN commenter.
KayInMD (formerly Kay (not the front-pager))
@Ken:
Is that “regularly” as in not more than a usual, average level of annoying-ness, or “regularly” as in always, on a near-daily basis annoying?
Not that I’m accusing anyone of anything here of course, just trying to clarify… :-P
Renie
@Harrison Wesley: yes but nothing is ever done to any religious organization that mixes the “church and state” concept. Thats why we need someone brave in government to take it on. But I doubt I’ll see that in my lifetime.
Ruviana
@Renie: For some mysterious reason my neighbor put out SIX (!) Trump signs. My Harris/Walz sign will go up as soon as I get it.
Scout211
In a follow-up to a discussion in an earlier thread, Janet Jackson’s management has issued an apology regarding her statement that Kamala Harris is not black.
Mousebumples
Watching the Packer game, after starting quiet time. No spoilers please as we’re about 20 minutes behind. Yay TiVo!
Note for WaterGirl – I see a few wierd typos in the OP…
HumboldtBlue
@eclare:
Woooohoooo
Elsewhere, the Olivia Nuzzi kerfuffle has yet again exposed beltway media as the navel-gazing double secret club it’s always been.
artem1s
@Harrison Wesley:
All NPs are allowed to lobby and have publicly state policy positions on pretty much anything. They can ‘educate and inform’ their members about pretty much anything. However, every NP has a mandate built into their charter/articles – they cannot endorse any candidate for public office or use their funds for individual campaigns. Lobbying is allowed but expenses are subject to excise taxes if they are deemed excessive (very difficult to get the IRS to do this).
Churches can even condemn someone for choosing to vote in a certain way as long as that ‘condemnation’ isn’t in the form of denying constitutionally guaranteed civil rights. I.E. you can be excommunicated as a member, but not tortured into submission.
Holding a woman hostage in her home state to keep her from accessing health care is certainly crossing the line. But making it economically impossible for her to travel out of state isn’t.
Obviously, state to state these grey areas are up for debate depending – IOKIYAR male.
David 🐝KHive🐝 Koch
🔥
Joey Maloney
All that’s left on my agenda is bedtime, but let’s pretend there aren’t all these time zones between me and thee.
First thing this morning, before it gets too hot, I have to sweep up all the dead leaves and other garden waste on the patio so when the cleaner comes tomorrow he can help me bag it up for disposal. Then when the Non-Euclidean mall opens I want to be first in line at the computer store to replace my monitor which annoyingly died on Friday afternoon, too late to replace before all the shops closed for Shabbat and when I was in the middle of a big work clusterflop and really needed that extra screen real estate.
Then after lunch one of the cats goes to the vet to check out a lump on his neck (message from the future – it will turn out to be nothing, just a scab that fur had grown through and matted up). Next, a trawl through several nearby pharmacies to get my prescriptions filled – stocks of some drugs have gotten irregular over the past few months. The start of that predated the war but that hasn’t helped.
For a relaxing evening some musical instrument practice for the online workshop I’m taking. Dinner will be a variation of Mongolian beef made with half chicken. After eating perhaps I’ll screw around on the internet for awhile and see what’s happening on that near-top-10000 blog I like to read.
Ishiyama
@WaterGirl: Big Island
Jackie
@wjca: You’re not alone:
I really want to see the DNC spend money on the FL and TX senate races.
Villago Delenda Est
I am THERE for Medium Cool. It’s going to be great!
JoyceH
@Scout211: I’ve seen that misconception in a number of places and I’m sure Jackson did too. Hey, Harris’ dad isn’t black, he’s Jamaican! Uh, guys? Jamaica is over 90% black. It’s more black than the US is white. They must have been running to the fridge during those “come to beautiful Jamaica” commercials, otherwise they’d have noticed a lot of black people.
Villago Delenda Est
@Jackie: Scott and Cruz both need to be exiled to somewhere in the Canadian Arctic, if we can get the Intuit to go along. Which will be a VERY hard sell.
Villago Delenda Est
@JoyceH: Are you telling me that Bob Marley was Black?
gkoutnik
Just came back from the opening of our county Democratic headquarters, in this small upstate NY city in a pretty red county. Three State Assembly candidates, State Senate candidate, and Congressional Candidate Josh Riley spoke for about five minutes each. Congresswoman from San Diego came to support Riley. The place was packed and lots of folks out on the street. Lots of energy. Got my lawn signs, came home and continue to write postcards.
JoyceH
@Villago Delenda Est: I knooow! GASP!
Villago Delenda Est
@HumboldtBlue: The vermin of the Village protect their own.
Baud
@Jackie:
I won’t criticize whatever they do, but there’s history there of Dems getting blamed for wasting money on unwinnable races.
BR
@Baud:
I am surprised that Harris and Walz haven’t visited AZ/NV in a while. There are a dozen possible reasons, and I have no guess as to which is most likely.
SFAW
Re: candidate signs:Was in central Maine last weekend, saw a sign I liked.
PRO-AMERICA
[Image of an American flag]
ANTI-TRUMP
Did not stop to ask where the owner got it, unfortunately.
wjca
The awkward restriction of each day to 24 hours seems a likely culprit.
WaterGirl
@Ishiyama: You must know NotMax, then. //
October Light
Did Kamala might the correct decision to skip this event?
I understand her team’s reasoning, but it would have been nice to hear Kamala deliver some zingers that would have driven Trump crazy.
https://www.mediaite.com/news/kamala-harris-bails-on-famed-charity-dinner-historically-attended-by-both-candidates-first-to-spurn-an-invite-since-1984/
cain
Well this should be interesting. My wife’s ex husband invited me for bowling with his kid. His brother is joining us and hasn’t been in town for 20 years. So the world has changed a lot
My wife’s ex and I are friends and so between us we are completely comfortable with each other. My parents have met him and like him etc. First time meeting his family.
Brother is nice according to my wife but his wife is a piece of work and definitely is the main character and the reason there hasnt been any contact.
WaterGirl
@Villago Delenda Est: LOL
HumboldtBlue
DougJ has a thread you should all read.
hueyplong
@October Light: There is a chance some people will be there to deliver zingers to Trump on Harris’ behalf while she is busy nailing down a contested state.
Matt McIrvin
@JoyceH:
That one came directly from Laura Loomer, if I recall correctly.
marcopolo
@Baud: Well, right now the D campaign money machine is going brrr brrr brrr and virtually every D campaign committee is better funded than in any other election in my lifetime (includes Obama ’08 & ’12). The Harris/Walz numbers are particularly off the chart. If we can’t do some stretch goal spending now then when? Particularly with the added benefits of left leaning ballot initiatives (pot legalization; abortion) in many states.
I keep dreaming there’s some billionaire out there (Tom Steyer what are you doing?) who will spend $10M or $20M set up a PAC to support Osborne in the NE senate race to run lots of TV ads and, you know, time it so they don’t have to report donor info till after the election.
Anyway, no brakes, peddle to the floor through Nov 5.
West of the Rockies
So glad the second “assassination effort” story has been swiftly forgotten and that it resulted in no sympathy bump for the ambulatory shit stain.
Matt McIrvin
@October Light: My first reaction is to think “HELL YES, FINALLY”. These weird chummy insider events, in an alternate universe where it’s all a game… they increasingly make my skin crawl.
Baud
@marcopolo: Hillary was particularly well funded, and she had a bigger polling lead than Trump than Harris has had. It’s always possible to make the case, but it’s really not possible to make a compelling case with the polling numbers we currently have
ETA: Compelling = the Dems deserve harsh criticism for not spending money on long shots.
Ishiyama
@WaterGirl: Well, I know from his comments that he is somewhere around here, but I wouldn’t recognize him IRL.
eclare
@Matt McIrvin:
That’s my first reaction too. Especially since TCFG will be there.
dmsilev
@Matt McIrvin: Can we kill the ‘nerd prom’ at the same time? Pro tip for political reporters: nerds famously obsess about all the details and ins and outs of their chosen subjects (both serious and amusing). You, who equally famously don’t give a shit about anything except gossip and the horse race, aren’t that.
Scout211
@HumboldtBlue: Is there a way to read that beyond the ellipses in the tweet you posted for those not on Twitter? It looks like it’s a thread but all that is showing is the first one.
zhena gogolia
@HumboldtBlue: All I can see is the first tweet. Is the whole thing available somewhere?
Baud
@October Light: Probably a good thing. I don’t think Trump will be capable of being funny or charming, especially if he’s by himself. It will likely be a disaster.
zhena gogolia
@Scout211: GMTA
middlelee
@HumboldtBlue: I don’t get a thread when I click the link, just that one comment.
Matt McIrvin
@Baud: I recall Democratic efforts in 2016 came in for criticism afterward for spending money and effort on hopeless stretch goals when Clinton’s support was eroding in critical swing states (but nobody necessarily realized it).
JanieM
@middlelee: Try this.
Scout211
Thread reader
DougjBalloon
Trying again. Okay, you have to click on the first entry in the thread to get to the whole thread. That works.
The whole thread:
Villago Delenda Est
@Baud: He’ll rant about cats and dogs. Mark my words.
BR
@dmsilev:
Agreed. They should call the Correspondents Dinner “The C-list Emmys”
Villago Delenda Est
@Scout211: A plethora of thanks!
scav
@Matt McIrvin: Haven’t learned that any action one takes will be judged unsatisfactory, perhaps slightly more so when in the rear-view mirror, but possibly even more loudly in the present tense.
artem1s
Playoff season is here. For the first time in my life I can enjoy a postseason without the embarrassment of a racists mascot or name hanging over #TheLand.
For more information on the inspiration behind the Cleveland Guardians new-ish name
10 things you should know about the Guardians of Traffic
And one of the reasons the franchise is so excited about this post season. Here’s their new manager Stephen Vogt talking about last week’s walkoff win against the Twins.
Villago Delenda Est
@HumboldtBlue: Chait is pure Villager. He’ll defend the Village to his last adjective. “Some Reason guy” is from a publication based in an ideology that wildly ignores reality. Reason is really good on civil liberties, but sucks at anything touching on economics and politics in general, because they’ve never read Adam Smith, for one thing.
H.E.Wolf
Top of the agenda list today: rehabilitating a way-too-salty quart of chicken-vegetable soup that I purchased from our local co-op.
I was low on supplies and inspiration, so I ended up cooking barley and red rice separately, in extra water, and dumping the result into the soup pot. Not thrilling, but it’s now both edible and colorful.
Moral 1: sometimes it’s smarter to make it from scratch.
Moral 2: sometimes it’s OK to ignore the sunk-cost fallacy and keep going until you win. Let’s hear it for the emergency barley stash. :)
Oh, and I was working on postcards to FL voters, in between soup surveillance. I can cause trouble on two fronts at once!
middlelee
@JanieM: Thank You!
Mousebumples
@H.E.Wolf: happy postcarding! That’s on my to do list for tonight probably. 😊
BR
Glad to see a constant drumbeat of videos about the SAVE act. Here’s another:
https://www.tiktok.com/@jessanderson4virginia/video/7417058615246277918
marcopolo
@Baud: The thing is is if you look at the existing advertising commitments in the battleground states (PA is the worst) it’s already so saturated that there isn’t tons of free ad time to buy between now and Nov 5. The battleground polling numbers are what they are (accurate or not) but they don’t change that fact.
Polling outside the current battleground states suggests there might (low chance but maybe) be some opportunity in FL and TX plus the value of boosting the senate candidates (and maybe AK which is yeah only 3 EVs but would be a cheap place to advertise btw).
I assume the Harris/Walz folks are getting more frequent polling (maybe close to daily with 45 days to go in like PA, MI, WI, NC, GA, AZ, and NV) and are also seeing state polls for just more states than we see (I’d imagine some Congressional/Senate polling gets shared). Not gonna try to second guess them but I will be sorely disappointed if they wind up with $50 million left over at the end.
Mousebumples
Villago Delenda Est
@artem1s: The Mariners are 5 games behind the Astros, and 1.5 games behind in the wild card race. I don’t think they’ll make it, but they have been very winning as of late. Far cry from that 10 game lead in the division back in June, though.
Mousebumples
I may have sent a post into the spam filter with too many links. Maybe? It’s been awhile, but I thought I would still be able to see the Problem Post. Maybe?
NotMax
Fingers crossed that weird is spelled correctly on the actual product.
trollhattan
@Mousebumples:
A functioning TiVo? Wow. How’s the Stanley Steamer running? :-P
Mousebumples
@trollhattan: I bought my TiVo ~10 years ago. No cable – I have it hooked up to a converter box/antenna. I bought the lifetime “service” which has paid for itself kan3 years ago now.
Great for recording stuff without needing a VCR!
Baud
@Matt McIrvin:
And what do you think of our polling in the swing states right now?
zhena gogolia
@Scout211: That is great.
eclare
@Mousebumples:
Did six today. Yay!
Mousebumples
@eclare: nice work! 🤩
scav
@marcopolo: Hello brave new world. While the traditional advertising channels may be finite and clogged, the insta/youtubey/tictocy/I’mtooagedtoocare space between ads is far more expandable — and at times indistinguishable from ads already.
TBone
Rolling first doobie of the day and looking forward to continuing afternoon of lazy lolling about. Which is a continuation of my morning inactivity. Second nap could occur, since first nap was unsatisfactory. Cats set good examples on this gray, almost chilly afternoon. They really know how to do retirement! If only someone else would make supper, serve it, and clear up afterward, my Sunday would be perfect. Hubby does the clearing up and dishes but, alas, I will get up later and roast some baby sized yellow taters with EVOO, salt, pepper, and rosemary, grill a seasoned steak, and figure out what veggies we feel like having. Then, an evening of additional lolling about, punctuated by frozen yogurt milkshakes.
marcopolo
@scav: So I live in a profoundly red state, in no way shape or form winnable for Ds at just about every level. The one place I see Harris/Walz ads is in my social media (my insta is overrun by them). Reading around the time of the DNC about the $100M + they already had allocated in this space (and probably more now) has me thinking they may already have that angle covered. It was massively more than the Rs (something like 20x or 50x).
I think the theory of the campaign vis a vis media (and why they are giving the legacy media outlets less time/access) is that fewer folks now get their info from traditional media than ever before plus the those outfits emphasize sizzle (cause they need eyeballs) over substance so they are not too valuable for getting their message out. That’s meant an unprecedented lean in on social media content.
Just my 2 cents. Curious if other BJers who are on social platforms are having similar experiences.
trollhattan
Feel the Freedom ®. And it’s only Sunday.
brantl
Thongs! Why thongs? We don’ need no steenking THONGS! (Where have you got room to illustrated anything on a thong?)
WaterGirl
@Ishiyama: I was kind of mocking the people who say “oh, I have a friend from illinois, do you know Bob Whatevertheirname is?”
WaterGirl
@trollhattan: You will pry my Tivo out of my cold, dead hands. Love Tivo. Click once when an ad starts and it takes you to where the show starts again.
And there’s no “oh, that’s not on Netflix anymore” for shows you care about .
WaterGirl
@brantl: I hadn’t actually seen them – beth had already hidden them again when she mentioned them to me, but one of our BJ peeps looked online today and sent me a screen capture of the thongs.
They are as awful and you imagine they would be.
Though it might be fun to send one to Joelle as a laugh for her upcoming reunion with John G.
NotMax
@WaterGirl
Sold in pairs?
Even so, two thongs don’t make it right.
:)
Gloria DryGarden
seriously? For real? I mean, really? Barbed wire?
yikes. Seriously appalled if so. The whole border? Along sections near the highways that cross state lines? Do you have links?
im not disbelieving you, I just want to know more. And it’s intensely ….I’m just sputtering and beyond words
I don’t want to imagine what other outrages and travel-inhibiting situations might ensue.
wjca
More performative bull. Because they can’t block the highways.** And does anybody really think women heading to New Mexico for medical care are going to walk?!?!?
** Try that on an Interstate and see how fast the Feds come down on you like an avalanche.
kalakal
@NotMax:
That would be a dipthong
NotMax
@kalakal
Oh, noice.
:)
WaterGirl
@NotMax: haha
Gloria DryGarden
If that’s what you thought about a comment I made Friday on “palate cleanser” and that’s why I was discussed as a probable “sock puppet “ (whatever that actually means) (and you were not actually joking), phooey, and my intent and character have been misconstrued.
3. “No-one wants to feel like a dog hit at random.”
Thank you to the people who directly told me when I was wrong, kindly wrote to explain what I would change, or asked if something was really true/ surely not. You were constructive, and inclusive, and I responded to you. I’m grateful to the many people here who have been kind, and helpful, and fun.
I’m naive and unsophisticated, but smart, and able to learn. And I care about a lot of things, including the country I live in. Being labeled incorrectly is a kind of reverse lie, and it’s a bit like having a bucket of ice water poured on my head, to read such comments.
I’ll make a point of looking up what different people mean by trolling, and by being an asshole. It seems that would be useful.
I’ll bear in mind these adverse opinions/ judgements that have been made. I know how that usually goes. It’s a bit like being around a certain flavor of judgmental other-ing “Christians.”
WaterGirl
@Gloria DryGarden: I hadn’t read to the end of that thread, but I skimmed it just now. Glad to see that someone explained further about Democrat vs. Democratic.
I’m kind of surprised to find that not everyone is aware of that.
The term can be used when someone doesn’t seem to be quite real. If there’s a feeling that someone is being disingenuous, maybe.
It’s human nature, I think, if a couple of people say something to assume that everyone feels that way, but that’s often not the case.
Sallycat
@wjca: I am in Florida and have been working on the Dems’ campaigns. When I speak with Democrats on the phone, they are very enthusiastic and ready to vote. I think with the abortion amendment on the ballot, the chance to flip Florida is real.
Ken
The chosen subject of journalists is… themselves. Their collective reaction to the Nuzzi scandal is just the latest example.