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I won’t even repeat what Clay Higgins said about Haitians.  Vile and disgusting, just like their dear leader.

Show me a Republican that’s not vile, and I imagine it will be Mitt Romney.  And he’s not vile; just a coward.  He should have left the Republican party.  Or maybe he is vile; there’s the whole “dog on the roof of the car” story.  Sadly, my Dogs against Romney car magnet faded into nothingness.  Sad.  That’s when I learned to always buy 2 car magnets for the great ones – one for the car and one for the fridge.

I like Hakeem’s style.  Tells it like it is.  Doesn’t mince words.

I feel like we need a good image of Hakeem Jeffries for Balloon Juice.

Door #1

Door #2

Interesting to see that the two images I chose from about a hundred must have been from the same day because he’s wearing the same suit and tie, and the same pin.  Unless that’s his uniform? :-)

I hope that seeing this take no prisoners approach from the Democratic leader of the House – and some of our ass-kicking new House members – will inspire more of our Senate candidates to bring some serious fight to the game.

Open thread.

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  4. 4.

    laura

    I like both pics- he gives “Strong Face.” I’m hoping he’ll be wielding the big gavel and sporting gonna kick some serious ass shoes in the new year. Hakeem Jeffries is leading by example in the meantime.

  5. 5.

    Anoniminous

    MAGAassHats heads are going to explode when we have a black President and a black Speaker of the House.

  8. 8.

    lowtechcyclist

    I vote for #1.

    And yeah, the time for beating around the bush, mincing words, and making nicey-nice with the Rethugs is past.  Glad to see that in Hakeem Jeffries we’ve got a House Dem Leader who is gonna go straight at them.

  10. 10.

    Jackie

    This fits here!

    On Thursday morning, an attorney representing the Haitian community in Springfield, Ohio, announced on MSNBC’s “Morning Joe” that he will be requesting another criminal charge be filed against Donald Trump and his presidential running mate J.D. Vance.

    Speaking with co-host Mika Brzezinski, civil rights attorney Subodh Chandra was first asked about the criminal charges an Ohio law allowed his Chandra Law Firm to file against the two Republican standard bearers on behalf of the Haitian Bridge Alliance.

    Those charges stem from fraudulent and inflammatory comments made by Trump and Vance which have thrown the town of Springfield into turmoil.

    The earlier charges stem from “… the devastating harm of Trump’s and Vance’s baseless fearmongering that legal Haitian immigrants to the Ohio town are eating their neighbor’s.”

    The earlier filing called for the “immediate arrest” of Trump and Vance on charges of disrupting public service, making false alarms, committing aggravated menacing, and violating the prohibition against complicity.

    Speaking with host Brzezsinki, on Thursday, Chandra broke the news that the filing will be amended to include an additional charge.

    “Ohio is among some states in the country that permit private citizens to file charges in the form of a sworn affidavit in a court and ask the court to review those charges, affirm whether there’s probable cause and either issue arrest warrants or then refer the matter to a prosecutor for further handling and investigaton,” he explained.

    He then announced, “I should add to those that today or tomorrow we plan to amending the charges to include inducing panic. The proof is set forth in the affidavit, the proof has been there for the world to see in terms of the statements made by Trump and Vance on social media, on video captured in interviews and the effect of that on Springfield, not just the Haitian population.”

    Video included at the link:

    https://www.rawstory.com/trump-vance-springfield-newcharges/

  12. 12.

    rikyrah

    BIDEN DID THIS!!!

     

    Kevin Gordon (@KevRGordon) posted at 6:08 AM on Thu, Sep 26, 2024:
    “Saudi Arabia is ready to abandon its unofficial price target of $100 a barrel for crude as it prepares to increase output, in a sign that the kingdom is resigned to a period of lower oil prices, according to people familiar with the country’s thinking.” https://t.co/9TlW1KAZ1M
    (https://x.com/KevRGordon/status/1839260826168971693?t=bpaI2t2iPsre9QCiwm6tmg&s=03)

  13. 13.

    Betty Cracker

    I missed the Higgins furor. According to Axios, here’s what he tweeted (for anyone else who missed it):

    Lol. These Haitians are wild. Eating pets, vudu, nastiest country in the western hemisphere, cults, slapstick, gangsters.”

    He added: “All these thugs better get their mind right and their ass out of our country before January 20th.”

    Christ, what an asshole!

    When confronted on the House floor about it and asked to delete the tweet, Higgins said he’d “pray on it.” He did delete it but then later said he didn’t regret saying it.

    Im not sure what the standard for censure is. It can’t be tweeting dumb, bigoted things because the GOP caucus would be censured nonstop.

  14. 14.

    frosty

    Door #1. Let them worry about whether he’s got a shoulder holster under his coat. Or worse, a phone teed up with brutal comebacks like this one!​

    @greengoblin: ​I like “reaching for the receipts” too! I hope his jacket has deep pockets.​

  15. 15.

    rikyrah

    Squawk Box (@SquawkCNBC) posted at 5:56 AM on Thu, Sep 26, 2024:
    “The issue with [Harris] is that she’s not giving us a detailed plan of action,” says @FrankLuntz. “But the issue with Trump is that he’s talking too much about the past, and not enough about the future.” https://t.co/jykmu0OI3e
    (https://x.com/SquawkCNBC/status/1839257794484060422?t=5SnEvDe9YL_nR9GCggQ6qQ&s=03)

    Sophia A. Nelson (@IAmSophiaNelson) posted at 6:01 AM on Thu, Sep 26, 2024:
    Luntz is a liar. Harris has been plenty detailed. Coherent. Normal. Trump is an amazing idiot. Who has been credibly accused, again of sexual
    assault. And can’t complete a coherent thought.
    (https://x.com/IAmSophiaNelson/status/1839258928191832249?t=kgzd6lZxoTHRMjrKSFjgAQ&s=03)

  18. 18.

    dmsilev

    Door #1 would be my choice.

    The Eric Adams indictment was just unsealed/announced. He’s basically accused of being the mayoral equivalent of Gold Bars Menendez.  In better news, the DSCC just announced big ad buys for Senate in Texas and Florida.

  24. 24.

    bbleh

    @Betty Cracker: I think the standard is whatever the House decides at the time it is.  But I can’t imagine you’d get this House to censure a Republican no matter what s/he said or did.

  32. 32.

    SiubhanDuinne

    Door #1. Gives off the same vibe as the iconic photo of Nancy SMASH!! striding out of TCFFG’s White House in her red coat.

    I barely know who Clay Higgins is. And based on Hakeem’s comment and WG’s refusal to link, I guess I don’t really want to know any more about him. 

  33. 33.

    Shalimar

    Romney may not be vile politically (and I think even that is arguable), but his business career destroyed more lives than your average politician.  He’s plenty vile.

  36. 36.

    lowtechcyclist

    @dmsilev:

    In better news, the DSCC just announced big ad buys for Senate in Texas and Florida.

    Damn, that’s good to see!

    I presume that they’ve already bought as much ad time in Montana as it’s possible to buy, since that has to be a very inexpensive place to buy ads.

  39. 39.

    Shalimar

    @SiubhanDuinne: Higgins is the one who was too violent and corrupt to work in law enforcement in Louisiana.  If you want human beings dehumanized, you can find a quote from him.  In the top 10 most disgusting House members.

  43. 43.

    KayInMD (formerly Kay (not the front-pager))

    @Baud: Just logged on to say this. Here’s a link to their announcement. I have to think that they believe both Allred and Mucarsel-Powell are very competitive.

    Woo-hoo!

  44. 44.

    lowtechcyclist

    @Baud:

    Some don’t necessarily see that as a good thing.

    To quote Douglas Adams:

    In the beginning the Universe was created.

    This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move.

  47. 47.

    lowtechcyclist

    @SiubhanDuinne:

    Door #1. Gives off the same vibe as the iconic photo of Nancy SMASH!! striding out of TCFFG’s White House in her red coat.

    It has a bit of Jack Smith energy too. :-)

  49. 49.

    frosty

    @WaterGirl: Excited that I will be able to use my favorite photo of Jack Smith today in a post after he releases his filing today.

    It’s a great day for WG then!

  52. 52.

    WaterGirl

    @Shalimar:

    Higgins is the one who was too violent and corrupt to work in law enforcement in Louisiana.

    Too violent corrupt for law enforcement in Louisiana?   My brain spit that back out.

    DOES. NOT. COMPUTE.

  53. 53.

    lowtechcyclist

    @rikyrah:

    Good news about Alsobrooks’ lead!

    Here’s a gift link to the WaPo story, thanks to my $1/month subscription.

    With tens of millions of dollars yet to be spent on the airwaves, a debate ahead and national attention locked on to the race, Alsobrooks’s 51 percent to 40 percent advantage is significant and demonstrates momentum, but it is not enough to put a Hogan upset out of the question.

  54. 54.

    BR

    @rikyrah: ​

    Jake Tapper just asked Mark Cuban if Harris’ plan to stop companies from “price-gouging” is her “controlling prices” like a socialist. A wildly dishonest question from Tapper, parroting MAGA propaganda. Luckily, Cuban shut him down & stood up for Harris. But still, bad journalism

    I was never a Mark Cuban fan but I’ve really liked having him out there stumping for Harris. He’s a great surrogate on so many levels — because he’s a startup billionaire dude, the media will listen to him, and because he is less toxic (at least in public) than most billionaire dudes he doesn’t turn off our base and because he is into sports and Shark Tank he appeals to low-info voters.

  57. 57.

    VOR

    It’s Vice Signaling. They are all emulating the Great Leader by letting their inner asshole loose. He showed that you could insult entire nationalities and still win elections. Now internet trolls with no interpersonal skills are running for office and winning Republican primaries. Check out Royce White, the Republican candidate for US Senate in Minnesota. MTG. Boebert. The guy in Montana who body-slammed a reporter.

  58. 58.

    lowtechcyclist

    @BR:

    Jake Tapper just asked Mark Cuban if Harris’ plan to stop companies from “price-gouging” is her “controlling prices” like a socialist. A wildly dishonest question from Tapper, parroting MAGA propaganda.

    Not only that, but Trump’s proposal of a 10% cap on credit card interest would be price control.  And banks would just stop issuing credit cards to bad risks, or else late charges and other fees would go through the roof.

  62. 62.

    Chris

    @Shalimar:

    Romney may not be vile politically (and I think even that is arguable), but his business career destroyed more lives than your average politician.  He’s plenty vile.

    I feel like Trump’s done such a hard reset that everybody’s forgotten the 2012 campaign.  Which was the first presidential election since the Great Freakout of “OMG there’s a ni[CLANG] in the White House,” and boy, did it show.

    Romney bragged that “nobody ever asked to see my birth certificate!”  He hired a Lebanese Christian supremacist with ties to the Sabra and Shatila war criminals as an adviser!  He praised Joe Arpaio’s immigration policies as a model for the nation!  He advocated for a border wall, opposed all amnesty, and said he’d veto the DREAM Act!

    That’s just his race politics.  It’s before you even get to his class politics, whether in substance (wanting to repeal the ACA) or in effect (sneering that 47% of the population were leeches and parasites and he’d never get them to take responsibility for their own fate).

    It’s before you even get to Benghazigate (the thing that became Butter Emailz), which originated with him, and where he was so gleeful at thinking he’d finally found a smear that would work that when making his public statement about the deaths of four Americans, he couldn’t even keep the smirk off his face long enough to get offstage!

    And yes, as you say, it’s before you get to his entire career outside of politics, which largely consisted of destroying one business after another.  Dubya and Trump did the same thing out of sheer incompetence; for Romney, it was an actual business model.

    In plenty of ways Romney was Trump 1.0, although given his bad luck and stiff awkwardness, it might be more accurate to say he was J. D. Vance 1.0.  If he were Dick Cheney telling people to vote for Kamala Harris, he still wouldn’t be any less vile – but unless things have changed, last I looked he wasn’t even doing that!  He’s absolutely one of the most vile human beings ever to crawl through the halls of power in Washington, and there’s no need for us to pretend otherwise.

  66. 66.

    trollhattan

    @lowtechcyclist:

    Had not heard that proposal before.

    Confess I’ve not been pleased at banks’ maintaining their sky high interest rates even when the fed funds rates were a scant couple percent and passbook savings pay sub 1%. SOMEBODY’S making money under this scheme.

    I have one merchant CC that just took time to raise their rate from 29.9% to 34.9. WTAF? I could get better than that from a goomba named Shorty.

    California usury ceiling is 10% but you can get an exception if you can fog a mirror.

  67. 67.

    Harrison Wesley

    @Geo Wilcox: “As Willard walked home through the Hedge Fund Woods, he made up a little tune and sang it to himself: ‘Isn’t it funny/how a Bain likes money?'”

  70. 70.

    CaseyL

    The DSCC is putting money into Texas and Florida? That’s some good news, right there. Either they do think the races are winnable, or have enough money sloshing around they can make the GOP spend more there. Either one is good.

    I will take this Open Thread opportunity to vent: Where I work, they are forcing us off using our server-based network in favor of The Fucking Cloud. Tasks that used to take me less than 5 seconds (like, say, editing and saving a file; or attaching that file to an email) now takes at least a minute each, and that’s provided the saved file went somewhere I can find it, and is the version I want, which is not at all the case all the time. I have pushed back, but… They claim it’s more secure, which is a lie; obviously, the University got taken in by yet another tech huckster selling the Cutting Edge Best Thing. (Like happened with Workday, about which please don’t get me started.)

  71. 71.

    wjca

    @lowtechcyclist: I presume that they’ve already bought as much ad time in Montana as it’s possible to buy, since that has to be a very inexpensive place to buy ads.

    I’m hoping they are saving some for GOTV there. Not sure how cheap it will be, given the big distances involved.  But definitely worth doing.

  77. 77.

    KatKapCC

    I especially like hearing Future Speaker Jeffries give speeches, or even just answering questions. He’s got a great cadence to his voice that draws you in.

  78. 78.

    wjca

    @Chris: He’s absolutely one of the most vile human beings ever to crawl through the halls of power in Washington, and there’s no need for us to pretend otherwise.

    Ever???

    Do even a tiny bit of research on the legislators from the Deep South during the (at least) 100 years after the Civil War.  The competition for “most vile” is really stiff.  Romney, for all his faults, isn’t really a serious competitor.

  79. 79.

    Matt McIrvin

    @Chris: Massachusetts centrists still, to this day, have this thing they do where they pine for the principled centrist Mitt Romney of 2002 as their ideal politician and insist that everything that came later was just an act for the rubes.

    Well, OK. Assume it’s an act for the rubes. What does it say that this guy was even willing to do that? I also haven’t forgiven him for his desperate reaching to find some way, any way, that he could stop same-sex marriage from starting in Massachusetts on his watch.

  82. 82.

    Scout211

    Senator Wyden  introduced a SCOTUS reform bill yesterday.

    In the wake of recent rulings upending decades of precedent and evidence of unethical behavior, Wyden’s Judicial Modernization and Transparency Act would modernize the courts by expanding the Supreme Court to 15 justices over three presidential terms, prevent political inaction from bottling up nominations to the Supreme Court, and restore appropriate deference to the legislative branch by requiring a supermajority to overturn acts of Congress, among other modernizing provisions to improve access to justice.

    The bill would also implement much-needed reforms to bring more accountability to the Supreme Court recusal process and improve transparency around potential financial conflicts and other unethical behavior.

  86. 86.

    Lyrebird

    @Anoniminous: YESSSSSSSSSS and it will bring me even more joy than the longed-for taco trucks on every corner

    ETA: I know I am too late here but hey, we can have more than one photo right?

    WaterGirl, how about a photo of Leader Jeffries from his speech at the convention?  When he’s smiling about his “bring the fight to them” rhyme?

  88. 88.

    Jackie

    MTG is PISSED at MAGA Johnson (again) for capitulating to the Dems!

    The Georgia lawmaker argued that Republicans did not deserve to control the U.S. House of Representatives.

    Please, Margie, set the adult example and be the first to resign your seat!🤞🏻🤞🏻

  90. 90.

    FelonyGovt

    @dmsilev: Interesting! My postcard group is writing postcards for Colin Allred, and to get out the Harris/Walz vote in Texas, and I was kind of wondering why. Now I’m even more motivated! Didn’t realize it was even close.

  92. 92.

    Chris

    @Matt McIrvin:

    @Chris: Massachusetts centrists still, to this day, have this thing they do where they pine for the principled centrist Mitt Romney of 2002 as their ideal politician and insist that everything that came later was just an act for the rubes.

    I don’t know how to explain to people that voting for something without really meaning it is the same thing as voting for something you really care about.

    We’re voters, not priests.  It isn’t our job to worry about how clean a politician’s inner conscience is.  It’s our job to worry about the actions the politician is using his office to take or not take.

    I also haven’t forgiven him for his desperate reaching to find some way, any way, that he could stop same-sex marriage from starting in Massachusetts on his watch.

    On the other hand, if you really do care about a politician’s inner conscience and what he “really means,” you can tell a lot about them by seeing what actions they take when they don’t really have to.  It was pretty clear that liberal Democrats, not Mitt Romney, were the ones responsible for getting same-sex marriage through in Massachusetts.  Politics wasn’t quite as furiously partisan as it would become after 2008.  He could have thrown up his hands and said “look you guys, it’s a really blue state, this was going to pass no matter what, I thought I’d save my powder for battles I could win.”  If he decided that it was a hill to die on, well… that says some things about what he really cares about.

  94. 94.

    Matt McIrvin

    @Chris: That’s more or less what happened anyway. The popular lore about the 2004 election was that Bush had gotten reelected on the backs of evangelical Christianist “values voters”, who in part were freaked out by Massachusetts starting to marry gay couples. So, afterward, Romney did go around trashing Massachusetts nationally.

  97. 97.

    sdhays

    @rikyrah: I hope she thanks Joe Manchin for the anti-bump he gave her opponent when he endorsed him.

    Joe Manchin should now endorse Rick Scott and Ted Cruz. And that super shady guy running against John Tester.

  100. 100.

    Jackie

    🤦🏼‍♀️

    Former President Donald Trump has found a new way to separate his supporters from their hard-earned money, according to critics.

    Writing on his Truth Social platform, the former president announced he was now selling Trump-branded gold wristwatches.

    “The Official Trump Watch Collection is here, and these Watches are truly special — You’re going to love them,” he wrote. “Would make a great Christmas Gift. Don’t wait, they will go fast. GET YOUR TRUMP WATCH RIGHT NOW!”

    https://www.rawstory.com/the-grift-never-ends-critics-pounces-as-trump-hawks-gold-watches-to-fans/

  101. 101.

    beckya57

    Re Senators growing a spine: Wyden (D-OR) today introduced legislation to reform SCOTUS, including expansion.  👏👏👏

  102. 102.

    Geminid

    @dmsilev: Also, the FBI executed an early morning search of Gracie Mansion a few hours after word of the indictments came out last night. The feds really want this guy.

  103. 103.

    Jackie

    @beckya57: Here’s a bit more info:

    “A sweeping bill introduced by a Democratic senator Wednesday would greatly increase the size of the Supreme Court, make it harder for the justices to overturn laws, require justices to undergo audits and remove roadblocks for high court nominations,” the Washington Post reports.

    “The legislation by Sen. Ron Wyden (D-OR) is one of the most ambitious proposals to date to remake a high court that has suffered a sharp decline in its public approval following a string of contentious decisions and ethics scandals in recent years. It has little chance of passing at the moment, since Republicans have generally opposed efforts to overhaul the court.”

  106. 106.

    Geminid

    @H.E.Wolf: I would like to see the photo the Jeffries campaign sent out in 2012, during his primary campaign to succeed Edolphus Towns. Barak Obama would not endorse one Democrat over another in that race, but he didn’t mind Jeffries distributing a photo of himself flanked by Obama and Bill Clinton. I expect the three men had big smiles on.

    I first heard of Hakeem Jeffries in November of 2018, when he was elected Chairman of the House Democratic Caucus. I read everything I could find about him. The funniest item was an interview by a New York journalist. He was impressed by the Congressman’s message discipline, and said interviewing Jeffries was “like talking to a very handsome robot.”

    But the very best thing I saw was Jeffries nominating Nancy Pelosi for Speaker; just under 3 minutes of brilliant speaking. If any Democrat ever feels down, that speech will cheer them up. Jeffries had “the Once and Future Speaker” grinning by the end of it.

  107. 107.

    CaseyL

    @zhena gogolia: ​

    I’m so sorry. If I were Catholic, I’d light a candle.

    WorkDay is, as BR says, the biggest POS application I’ve ever had to work with. It’s data capture for people who have no idea what data they really want or need to capture and therefore decide to they have to get everything.

    And I only work with the most basic parts, the reimbursements. People I know who have to do payroll or track grant budgets are regularly reduced to rage and/or tears. I know of people who’ve resigned their positions rather than have to work with Workday.

  108. 108.

    Scout211

    @Scout211: @Jackie:

    From Wyden’s Senate site posted in my link above:

    The bill modernizes the federal judiciary by:

    Expanding the Supreme Court to 15 justices.

    The expansion is staggered over a total of 12 years with a president getting to appoint one nominee in the first and third years of each presidential term.

    Establishing a new supermajority threshold to overturn acts of Congress on a constitutional basis at both the Supreme Court and Circuit Court level.

    Requiring that relief granted by lower courts in cases seeking to invalidate an act of Congress expire upon the issuing date of an opinion by the Supreme Court.

    Establishing a new process for Supreme Court nominations that are not reported out of committee within 180 calendar days to be automatically placed on the Senate calendar.

    Expanding the number of circuit courts to 15 and returning to the practice of assigning one Supreme Court justice to oversee each circuit.

    Expanding the number of circuits by splitting the Ninth Circuit and establishing a new Southwestern Circuit.

    Expanding the number of Circuit Court and District Court judgeships to improve access to justice.

    The bill increases transparency to improve public trust by:

    Requiring all justices to consider recusal motions and make their written opinions publically available. Any justice would be recused from a case upon the affirmative vote of the justices.

    Requiring the public disclosure of how each justice voted for any case within the appellate jurisdiction of the Supreme Court.

    Requiring the IRS to initiate an audit of each justice’s income tax return (and any amended return) as quickly as practicable after it is filed. Within 90 days of filing, the IRS would be required to publicly release the returns and provide an update on the status of the audit. Every 180 days thereafter, the IRS must update the public on the status of the audit. It will also release the ultimate findings of the audit.

    Requiring those nominated to the Court to include their most recent three years of tax returns in their publicly-available financial disclosure filings. In the case that a nominee does not disclose the tax returns within 15 days after nomination, the Administrative Office of the United States Courts would be instructed to obtain the tax returns from the Secretary of the Treasury and make them public. The Secretary of the Treasury is instructed to redact certain personal identity information.

     

    A one-pager summarizing the bill is here.

    A section-by-section of the legislative text is here.

    The legislative text is here.

  109. 109.

    different-church-lady

    …is vile, racist, and beneath the dignity of the United States House of Representatives…”

    MAGA: “Yeah. What’s the problem?”

  111. 111.

    Geminid

    The last couple of months have seen a lot of speculation here about potential Presidential candidates. Some people have particular favorites, others extoll the strength of the Democratic bench.

    Hakeem Jeffries is never mentioned in this context. Jeffries may decide to be a 21st century Sam Rayburn, but if he ran for President I think Jeffries could be as formidable a candidate as any of the others.

  118. 118.

    Jackie

    Really? Is this a “How potentially stupid are NYC residents?” test?

    “Even before news broke of New York City Mayor Eric Adams’ indictment, former New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo was already signaling to allies that he was preparing to run for mayor,” Axios reports.

    “From a star in Democratic politics to a disgraced governor pushed to resign amid a sexual harassment scandal, Cuomo’s dramatic rise and fall could soon have another chapter.”

     

  119. 119.

    Nora

    @Matt McIrvin: ​
      Depends on how you write it. There’s nothing in the language of the Constitution that requires that a person remain actively on the Supreme Court for the rest of their life (or during good behavior, which strikes me as an unused restriction); the idea of emeritus justices who wouldn’t be on active duty but could be called upon in emergencies seems okay constitutionally.

  120. 120.

    Princess

    @dmsilev: I’m glad they’re buying senate ads in FL and TX but this isn’t good news. They’re doing it because they’re really worried about Tester in Montana.

  122. 122.

    Kayla Rudbek

    @Scout211: I like this.  The only thing I would add is that all federal judges must meet the same financial disclosure requirements as the GS-14 patent examiners (I forget the exact name of the federal form, it’s not unique to the USPTO) and/or the same financial disclosure requirements as for a security clearance.

  123. 123.

    WaterGirl

    @Princess: Or we could think of it as covering all their bases, or planning for all possible contingencies, or thinking this could be a blue wave so they are going for everything where there is even a chance of pulling it off.

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