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Come for the politics, stay for the snark.

Is it negotiation when the other party actually wants to shoot the hostage?

Republicans firmly believe having an abortion is a very personal, very private decision between a woman and J.D. Vance.

Giving in to doom is how we fail to fight for ourselves & one another.

Innocent people do not delay justice.

When do we start airlifting the women and children out of Texas?

I’d hate to be the candidate who lost to this guy.

One of our two political parties is a cult whose leader admires Vladimir Putin.

Bark louder, little dog.

Live so that if you miss a day of work people aren’t hoping you’re dead.

Republicans don’t lie to be believed, they lie to be repeated.

Polls are now a reliable indicator of what corporate Republicans want us to think.

Also, are you sure you want people to rate your comments?

It’s easy to sit in safety and prescribe what other people should be doing.

Imperialist aggressors must be defeated, or the whole world loses.

Weird. Rome has an American Pope and America has a Russian President.

My years-long effort to drive family and friends away has really paid off this year.

You come for women, you’re gonna get your ass kicked.

T R E 4 5 O N

Whatever happens next week, the fight doesn’t end.

They are not red states to be hated; they are voter suppression states to be fixed.

Rupert, come get your orange boy, you petrified old dinosaur turd.

Every reporter and pundit should have to declare if they ever vacationed with a billionaire.

Come for the politics, stay for the snark.

Republicans seem to think life begins at the candlelight dinner the night before.

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Thursday Afternoon Open Thread

by Betty Cracker|  October 3, 202412:01 pm| 243 Comments

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I made it!

Mail-in ballot marked for Harris-Walz
Filling in that oval was SO satisfying. Open thread!

 

 

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  1. 1.

    BR

    October 3, 2024 at 12:03 pm

    Report from New Deal Democrat that the economy is doing fine:

    Essentially, with the poor June readings for the new orders subindex in particular out of the average, the economically weighted ISM indicator has returned to a moderately positive aggregate reading. This is good news.

    https://bonddad.blogspot.com/2024/10/the-ism-services-index-measuring-75-of.html

  2. 2.

    Layer8Problem

    October 3, 2024 at 12:04 pm

    Damn.  I know that felt good.

  3. 3.

    clay

    October 3, 2024 at 12:04 pm

    Has early voting started in Florida?  I gotta get on that!

  4. 4.

    suzanne

    October 3, 2024 at 12:05 pm

    Thrilled for you, and for us.

    Hoping to have you around much, much longer.

  5. 5.

    Betty Cracker

    October 3, 2024 at 12:06 pm

    @clay: For mail-in ballots. I don’t think in-person early voting starts for a while.

  6. 6.

    ArchTeryx

    October 3, 2024 at 12:06 pm

    From dead thread below, toward Onnes Omnibus:

    Of THAT I completely agree. The best way to make Trump go away permanently is to defeat him at the polls.

    The trouble is, enough Trumpers exist among the American people that that may not be possible. I think that’s the root of my fears. I live next to a bunch of them. There’s a gun range so close to my house I can hear it being used on a daily basis. And this is in New York State, in one of the wealther suburbs of Albany.

    There’s a lot of wisdom in what you say. But it still puts my life and the life of my fiancee on a coin flip, and the coin’s heavily weighted toward the fascists. So the next four weeks are going to be me trying to avoid a full panic-attack breakdown. It’s bad enough that one of our housemates, from rural Alabama, is arming up and preparing for these yahoos to show up at our door. (He’s NOT a Trumper, and is thoroughly on the side of the people in the house. He’s dependable, and he knows how these yahoos think)

    My fiancee, because of her multiple disabilities and being a 3 time cancer survivor, is permanently voting absentee, and she trusts me to help her fill it out. Mostly, I just explain NYS fusion voting and let her fill it out herself – she and I are absolutely on the same side politically, so we both know who she’ll vote for. But her filling out her own ballot has far too much symbolic power not to do.

  7. 7.

    BigJimSlade

    October 3, 2024 at 12:06 pm

    Hooray!

  8. 8.

    Jude

    October 3, 2024 at 12:07 pm

    Tears of joy. Now you’re going to make it to see the Harris win. It will be spectacular!!! Oh shit, I really am crying RN. Sending all the love your way, Betty!

  9. 9.

    CaseyL

    October 3, 2024 at 12:07 pm

    Oh, I bet that felt really, really good!

    But do please stick around for the denouement :) …. and a good long time after that, too!

  10. 10.

    suzanne

    October 3, 2024 at 12:08 pm

    Also, for the latest update on MEN HATE WOMEN news, make sure to read this: Divorced Men are Falling for Trump.

    I listened to a podcast with David Frum this morning (I know)….. he said that he thinks that race is becoming a bit less of a dividing line in society/voting behavior, and sex is becoming more of a dividing line. I think that’s probably right.

    Which is, of course, not to say that race isn’t still a potent differentiator, but maybe it’s less than it once was.

  11. 11.

    Rand Careaga

    October 3, 2024 at 12:10 pm

    It looks as though my wife, who looked for a while as though she wouldn’t make it to the end of August, may yet survive to receive, complete and dispatch her mail-in ballot, which California should be issuing early next week.

  12. 12.

    Scout211

    October 3, 2024 at 12:11 pm

    Yay!!! So much joy, Betty!  I’m so happy for you.

  13. 13.

    prufrock

    October 3, 2024 at 12:12 pm

    Hell yeah!  Got my ballot yesterday, will fill it out tonight.

  14. 14.

    Omnes Omnibus

    October 3, 2024 at 12:12 pm

    Excellent!

  15. 15.

    TBone

    October 3, 2024 at 12:12 pm

    What CaseyL said!

    🎶

    https://youtu.be/Tf1d65OHYXo

    Who is cutting onions in here? *wipes cheek

  16. 16.

    Scout211

    October 3, 2024 at 12:13 pm

    @Rand Careaga: Oh my.  My heart goes out to you and your wife.  ❤️

    But I’m happy for her that she gets to fill out her ballot next week.

  17. 17.

    TBone

    October 3, 2024 at 12:13 pm

    @Rand Careaga: hugs and best wishes to you both 💙

  18. 18.

    currants

    October 3, 2024 at 12:14 pm

    Wooot!

  19. 19.

    trollhattan

    October 3, 2024 at 12:16 pm

    Our sample ballot and voter guides have arrived, but not the ballots. Getting itchy, even knowing the drudgery of plowing through the propositions. So many propositions. (Always helpful: finding the Cal Chamber recommendations then doing the opposite.)

  20. 20.

    Burrowing Owl

    October 3, 2024 at 12:16 pm

    Woohoo! Best wishes to you.

  21. 21.

    Cowgirl in the Sandi

    October 3, 2024 at 12:17 pm

    @clay:

    I am doing Postcards for Voters in Florida and we don’t mail them until Thursday, Oct. 26th.

  22. 22.

    TBone

    October 3, 2024 at 12:17 pm

    @ArchTeryx: 💜🤜

  23. 23.

    Harrison Wesley

    October 3, 2024 at 12:17 pm

    @Betty Cracker: Yes for mail-ins.  I dropped mine off at the supervisor of elections’ office yesterday.  Early in-person voting in Manatee County starts the week of the 21st.

  24. 24.

    SFAW

    October 3, 2024 at 12:18 pm

    Congratulations! And hoping/keeping my fingers crossed that you get to vote against Ivanka’s kid(s) when they run for president.

  25. 25.

    HumboldtBlue

    October 3, 2024 at 12:19 pm

    These people are truly fucked up human beings.

    At the risk of stating the obvious, South Western’s elected school board is making some strange decisions.

    For the last two years, they’ve fixated on which bathrooms LGBTQ+ kids use. In 2023, officials in this Hanover-area district played musical chairs with school bathrooms in a misguided attempt to appease the loudest bigots among them — ending up with five different types of bathrooms.

    After a low-turnout school board election in which several far-right members joined their ranks, they hired a Christian law firm, decided to begin banning books and reopened the bathroom issue. Board President Matthew Gelazela, who was elevated to his post after previously serving as the board’s most vocal bomb-thrower, pointed to Red Lion’s discriminatory policies as something to aspire to.

    Now, upon the advice of that law firm — the Harrisburg-based Independence Law Center — the board approved spending $8,700 to cut windows so passersby can look into the so-called “gender-identity” student bathrooms.

    Yes, you read that correctly.

    These adults want to make it easier for other people to watch your children while they’re in the bathroom. It’s absolutely mind-boggling.

  26. 26.

    artem1s

    October 3, 2024 at 12:20 pm

    Early voting starts in OH on 10/8. I’m working the polls on election day so will vote ASAP. And also, hopefully that will stop the barrage of texts and emails. IMO this constant fundraising causes more voter fatigue than the pundits skewing the polls. It’s a bottomless hole in the internet you have to constantly throw money at.

  27. 27.

    UncleEbeneezer

    October 3, 2024 at 12:20 pm

    @suzanne: I’ve known several (ver Liberal/Progressive) guys who got divorced and in the immediate aftermath started spouting border-line Red Pill bullshit about how unfair all these divorce laws are for men.  Fortunately most seem to have come to their senses once some time passed and are all Kamala/Dem supporters now.  But there is definitely a strong appeal for Alt-Right, Men-R-The-Real-Victims bullshit with divorced men.  And I’m not surprised Trump/Republicans are using it.

  28. 28.

    baquist

    October 3, 2024 at 12:21 pm

    @Rand Careaga:  Best wishes to you and your wife.

  29. 29.

    Bruce K in ATH-GR

    October 3, 2024 at 12:21 pm

    My mom and dad and I filled out backup absentee ballots* this past weekend, with the help of the FVAP.gov web site. Monday morning, I handed them in to the US Embassy, where I assume they go back to the United States via diplomatic pouch.

    *Our requested New York State ballots have not yet arrived, and the deadline to drop absentee ballots at the Embassy is tomorrow.

  30. 30.

    baquist

    October 3, 2024 at 12:22 pm

    Way to go, Betty!!!

  31. 31.

    TBone

    October 3, 2024 at 12:23 pm

    @Bruce K in ATH-GR: good job meeting that cutoff!

  32. 32.

    Math Guy

    October 3, 2024 at 12:24 pm

    Early voting in Minnesota started September 20. My daughter and I have already voted. Go Blue!

  33. 33.

    Nukular Biskits

    October 3, 2024 at 12:25 pm

    Thanks for helping save democracy, BettyC!

    And I hope you are doing well.

  34. 34.

    HinTN

    October 3, 2024 at 12:25 pm

    @artem1s:

    It’s a bottomless hole in the internet you have to constantly throw money at.

    No you don’t.

  35. 35.

    UncleEbeneezer

    October 3, 2024 at 12:25 pm

    @HumboldtBlue: They’re just really passionate about Feminism…(sarcasm)

  36. 36.

    SatanicPanic

    October 3, 2024 at 12:26 pm

    @HumboldtBlue: Christian conservatives might not intend to create a system that victimizes children, but if they did intend to create a system that victimizes children it would look at lot like the systems they set up.

    And maybe they do intend to victimize children, because it sure looks like they do.

  37. 37.

    TBone

    October 3, 2024 at 12:27 pm

    @HumboldtBlue: a photo of the Members (and I use that word with all of its connotations intact):

    https://www.swsd.k12.pa.us/page/members/

  38. 38.

    Andrew Abshier

    October 3, 2024 at 12:27 pm

    @trollhattan: The local Republican Party helpfully sends out a voting guide to my address each year.  It’s useful for knowing who not to vote for, if I can’t research a local race to the extent I want to.

  39. 39.

    Belafon

    October 3, 2024 at 12:29 pm

    @suzanne: Trump appeals to misogyny even among minority men.

  40. 40.

    TBone

    October 3, 2024 at 12:29 pm

    @SatanicPanic: take a look at my post featuring a photo of said members and maybe you’ll see what I see.  A bunch of god bothering dicks.

  41. 41.

    SatanicPanic

    October 3, 2024 at 12:30 pm

    @TBone: There’s like three men in there who probably shouldn’t be allowed within 1000 feet of a school.

  42. 42.

    Elizabelle

    October 3, 2024 at 12:31 pm

    Yippee!! Celebrating!

  43. 43.

    rikyrah

    October 3, 2024 at 12:31 pm

    J.J. Abbott 

    @jjabbott

    Watch these Charleroi, PA locals clown a California right-winger trying to stir up anti-immigrant racism about their town: “You need to go back where you came from. You don’t need to be in Charleroi. These poor Haitian people making money and working hard.” – older white woman
    https://x.com/jjabbott/status/1841664036892536925

  44. 44.

    Timill

    October 3, 2024 at 12:31 pm

    @trollhattan:

     L A Times recommendations

  45. 45.

    Maxim

    October 3, 2024 at 12:33 pm

    @trollhattan: We got our Big Book of Ballot Information, but not yet our sample ballots, which is odd. I think they usually arrive together.

  46. 46.

    Chris

    October 3, 2024 at 12:35 pm

    @suzanne:

    Also, for the latest update on MEN HATE WOMEN news, make sure to read this: Divorced Men are Falling for Trump.

    My favorite part of that article is that it starts with “a law enforcement officer from small-town Ohio…”  With a resume like that, I’m not sure which is more of a foregone conclusion, that he’s the kind of guy who’d drive his wife to divorce, or that he’s a Trump voter.

  47. 47.

    suzanne

    October 3, 2024 at 12:35 pm

    @Belafon:

    Trump appeals to misogyny even among minority men. 

    Absolutely. There’s a lot of men of every race who aspire to patriarchy.

    I believe there’s been a significant sex gap in the voting behavior within every race in recent decades. How big that gap is is always interesting. At least for white people this year, it’s expected to be really large.

  48. 48.

    scav

    October 3, 2024 at 12:36 pm

    Yeah!  May they all feel every vote that goes against them like a nail through the temple, fastening them to the ground. Team Jael today.

  49. 49.

    scav

    October 3, 2024 at 12:39 pm

    @HumboldtBlue: Enabling the perves, at school as in their churches.

  50. 50.

    trollhattan

    October 3, 2024 at 12:41 pm

    @Maxim: IIUC the big general election book comes from the state and the voter guide from the county. Ballot mailing by the county begins “no later than October 7.” and early voting sites open the same day.

    https://www.sos.ca.gov/elections/upcoming-elections/general-election-nov-5-2024/key-dates-deadlines

  51. 51.

    Steve in the ATL

    October 3, 2024 at 12:41 pm

    @Chris:
     

    he’s the kind of guy who’d drive his wife to divorce, or that he’s a Trump voter

    I’ll bet the Venn diagram of these is close to a single circle

  52. 52.

    weasel

    October 3, 2024 at 12:41 pm

    Congrats! Also exciting that it may well even make a difference, especially for the Senate seat

  53. 53.

    trollhattan

    October 3, 2024 at 12:42 pm

    @Timill: Thanks, not even paywalled!

    See they’re shy about Prop 33, which real estate peoples HATE.

  54. 54.

    Urza

    October 3, 2024 at 12:42 pm

    I could be mistaken, but shouldn’t the party in power be on top for the ballots?  Or is that only for incumbents and the states decide otherwise?

  55. 55.

    WaterGirl

    October 3, 2024 at 12:42 pm

    Go Betty!

  56. 56.

    TBone

    October 3, 2024 at 12:42 pm

    @SatanicPanic: 👍 my exact sentiments.

    Also the KKKarens too.

  57. 57.

    Baud

    October 3, 2024 at 12:43 pm

    I hope Harris wins FL by one vote.

  58. 58.

    Chris

    October 3, 2024 at 12:43 pm

    @SatanicPanic:

    It doesn’t help that they have little to no framework for what victimizing children even is.  Pretty much every aspect of it, they’re okay with.  Beating your children?  That’s just instilling respect and discipline.  Children working in factories?  It’ll be good for them, it’ll teach them a work ethic and it gives them money so they can start earning their keep at home!  Even the pedophilia that they’re constantly accusing everyone else of is largely legit in their eyes – sure, they’d hate for someone to do it to their precious princess, but as long as it’s somebody else’s and they’re the ones turned on, then it’s just another reason to bitch that #MeToo is out of control.  And really, they don’t even mind if it happens to their precious princess so long as they control who the other person is, which may be why child marriage is still legal in most places.

  59. 59.

    Harrison Wesley

    October 3, 2024 at 12:43 pm

    @TBone: And their theme song, of course.

    https://youtu.be/JsntlJZ9h1U?si=hDp055pppSCM6u9K

  60. 60.

    TBone

    October 3, 2024 at 12:44 pm

    @scav: ❤️💜💙

  61. 61.

    eclare

    October 3, 2024 at 12:44 pm

    Congratulations!  Early voting here starts 10/16.  And happy birthday to me and all of my fellow Libras!

  62. 62.

    SatanicPanic

    October 3, 2024 at 12:46 pm

    @Chris: Agreed.

  63. 63.

    eclare

    October 3, 2024 at 12:47 pm

    @Rand Careaga:

    I’m so happy for you and your wife and your additional time together.

  64. 64.

    TBone

    October 3, 2024 at 12:47 pm

    @Baud: awwww 🥰

  65. 65.

    TBone

    October 3, 2024 at 12:48 pm

    @Harrison Wesley: 😆🤬

    💜

  66. 66.

    WaterGirl

    October 3, 2024 at 12:48 pm

    PSA:

    beth, who has been our BJ Pet Calendar designer for over 10 years, lives in Asheville, NC, which was really hard hit by Helene.  She is still without power and water – and will continue to be without water for 3-5 weeks.

    I talked beth into putting up an Amazon wishlist, but she’s being very “there are people who are worse off than we are” .  So the list only has 2 items on it so far.  Anyway… if you are inclined to want to help click on the link ad see if either item grabs you.

    Her dog just barked at the UPS truck down the street, so deliveries are not a problem.

    I have never done a wishlist personally, but if you have questions I will try to answer them.

  67. 67.

    eclare

    October 3, 2024 at 12:50 pm

    @UncleEbeneezer:

    If you’re still here, I started that series on Hulu that you recommended, In Vogue.  I love it!  You could never tell from the way that I dress, but I am fascinated by the fashion industry.

  68. 68.

    eclare

    October 3, 2024 at 12:51 pm

    @Math Guy:

    Tim Walz is going to be on Jimmy Kimmel on Monday night.

  69. 69.

    rikyrah

    October 3, 2024 at 12:51 pm

    Scott Waldman

    @scottpwaldman

    NEW: Two former Trump White House officials told me they had to show voter data to Trump to get him to release disaster funding to CA wildfire victims. He released it after learning that he had as many GOP supporters in Orange Co. as he did in Iowa.
    https://x.com/scottpwaldman/status/1841864748855402756

  70. 70.

    NutmegAgain

    October 3, 2024 at 12:52 pm

    Hurray!  so gratifying. I hope that you’ll continue feeling better, and we’ll see your unmistakeable voice around here for a good long while yet~

  71. 71.

    suzanne

    October 3, 2024 at 12:52 pm

    @Chris:

    Even the pedophilia that they’re constantly accusing everyone else of is largely legit in their eyes – sure, they’d hate for someone to do it to their precious princess, but as long as it’s somebody else’s 

    I’m….. not sure this is right. Lots of abused girls are abused by their fathers.

  72. 72.

    TBone

    October 3, 2024 at 12:53 pm

    In the dickitude dept. of stealing ballot drop boxes and getting caught. This fucking guy is in the Finding Out stage, finally!

    What Diny doesn’t mention is that it doesn’t matter what the city council thinks or wants, the law clearly states that it is up to the city clerk and ONLY the city clerk.

    Diny is probably sweating bullets and shitting bricks by now. The city clerk made not just one, but two, reports to the District Attorney’s office, as she is compelled to do by state law. Diny responded by stating that the clerk was “out of her lane” by following the law.

    https://crooksandliars.com/2024/10/wausau-mayor-returns-stolen-drop-box-under

  73. 73.

    TBone

    October 3, 2024 at 12:54 pm

    @rikyrah: jesus F. christ

  74. 74.

    JerseyBeard

    October 3, 2024 at 12:55 pm

    My sincerest congratulations, Betty. Every new sunrise is a gift, today’s must feel extra extra special. Sending courage and peace to you.

  75. 75.

    rikyrah

    October 3, 2024 at 12:56 pm

    @ArchTeryx:

    The trouble is, enough Trumpers exist among the American people that that may not be possible. I think that’s the root of my fears. I live next to a bunch of them. There’s a gun range so close to my house I can hear it being used on a daily basis. And this is in New York State, in one of the wealther suburbs of Albany.

     

    There is no doubt that the other side wants to erase the 20th Century.

    Kamala Harris running for President like this is peak Black woman. They’ve put on this woman’s shoulders the responsibility for saving democracy in America with 100 days to do it.

     

    I am so tired of White people wanting to be White, rather than them wanting to live in a pluralistic society with opportunity for all.

    When people like me say that we can’t have nice things in America because of White people…we mean it.

     

    But, they must be defeated. Up and down the board.

    We must keep the Senate and win the Presidency and the House.

  76. 76.

    satby

    October 3, 2024 at 12:57 pm

    Congratulations BettyC on one goal being met, and may you dance in your living room at the inaugural ball!

    @Rand Careaga: Thoughts of hope and peace for you and your wife.

    @eclare: Happy Birthday! Wait till William discovers cake!

  77. 77.

    trollhattan

    October 3, 2024 at 12:57 pm

    @Baud: ​
     
    If that happened zombie Antonin Scalia would flip it and the state, with an added no-takebacksies caution.

  78. 78.

    rikyrah

    October 3, 2024 at 12:57 pm

    Betty C,

    That picture of that ballot is beautiful. :)

  79. 79.

    zhena gogolia

    October 3, 2024 at 12:57 pm

    Great news, Betty! That is a beautiful picture.

  80. 80.

    rikyrah

    October 3, 2024 at 12:58 pm

    @Rand Careaga:

    Prayers for her.

  81. 81.

    Anotherlurker.

    October 3, 2024 at 12:58 pm

    @trollhattan: I’m still a relatively new California voter and I find the propositions to be a slog.  Thank you for the hint to find the Chamber of Commerce recommendations and vote opposite their recommendations.

  82. 82.

    True Blue Spark

    October 3, 2024 at 12:58 pm

    Fantastic! My wife and I just made plans to vote on the 15th, which is the first early day down here in Georgia. (And I’ve triple checked our registrations too.) Definitely looking forward to getting it done,

  83. 83.

    cain

    October 3, 2024 at 1:00 pm

    @eclare: same here. Enjoy all the time together you can and glad she has the opportunity to vote.

    And yay Betty !!

  84. 84.

    MazeDancer

    October 3, 2024 at 1:01 pm

    Yay, Betty! Gonna assume you sent Rick Scott a bye-bye vote, too.

  85. 85.

    UncleEbeneezer

    October 3, 2024 at 1:02 pm

    @eclare: Oh great!  Glad you enjoyed it.  There’s also an AppleTV series called “The Supermodels” that is all about Naomi, Christy, Linda and Cindy.  It was really great as well.

    I know very little about fashion too and have a pretty dull style, but my wife loves it.  So it’s been fun for me to learn to appreciate it since I met her.  I mean, you want me to stare at Naomi Campbell and Linda Evangelista for hours…twist my arm…

  86. 86.

    TBone

    October 3, 2024 at 1:03 pm

    @trollhattan: it was his thought for BC that counted in that comment.

  87. 87.

    Belafon

    October 3, 2024 at 1:04 pm

    @rikyrah: Well, it was going to be on a white man’s shoulders to do it, but….

  88. 88.

    scav

    October 3, 2024 at 1:05 pm

    @TBone: The WI DOJ has entered the building.

    Sources confirm to WISN 12 News that agents with Wisconsin Department of Justice’s Division of Criminal Investigation arrived at Wausau City Hall Wednesday morning and have taken over the investigation into Mayor Doug Diny moving the city’s ballot drop box into his office.

     

    It’s unclear what exactly DCI agents are looking for Wednesday, but the Portage County Sheriff’s Office told WAOW-TV Tuesday its local investigation into the matter was complete and Marathon County District Attorney Theresa Wetzsteon confirmed DCI is now serving as the lead investigator.

  89. 89.

    HumboldtBlue

    October 3, 2024 at 1:06 pm

    @eclare:

    Happy Birthday, fellow Libra.

  90. 90.

    TBone

    October 3, 2024 at 1:07 pm

    Drunk, sweaty, and farting: no way to go through life 😆 Shoulda listened to his daughter!

    Donald Trump’s former attorney and Ex-NYC Mayor, Rudy Giuliani, texted a stranger about his plans to overturn the results of the 2020 election in Michigan, according to Special Counsel Jack Smith’s detailed and damning report.

    https://crooksandliars.com/2024/10/smart-guy-giuliani-texted-wrong-number

    New phone who DIS?

    Dingaling!

    Not enough ringy dingies 😆

  91. 91.

    Ned F

    October 3, 2024 at 1:08 pm

    @HumboldtBlue:

    Two weeks ago I spent a weekend camping at Cordorus State Park in Hanover. That is serious Trump country with big Christian academies also.  I noticed this year the T signs are much bigger, usually on manicured country estates. There was one as large as a drive in movie screen above a nice supermarket.

    Lots of homemade signs about communists and such for those who can’t afford the billboard.

  92. 92.

    Chacal Charles Calthrop

    October 3, 2024 at 1:09 pm

    @rikyrah: word

  93. 93.

    Omnes Omnibus

    October 3, 2024 at 1:09 pm

    @scav: I am a little confused as to why Portage County Sheriff is making a statement.  Wausau is the county seat of Marathon County.  Portage County is the next county south.

  94. 94.

    Villago Delenda Est

    October 3, 2024 at 1:09 pm

    Mail-in ballots (the only kind we have!) drop in Oregon in two weeks.  It’s gonna be gud!

  95. 95.

    Geoduck

    October 3, 2024 at 1:09 pm

    If that really is your actual ballot, I’m surprised Florida includes instructions in Spanish. Maybe a sop to the Cuban population?

  96. 96.

    eclare

    October 3, 2024 at 1:10 pm

    @TBone:

    Ha!  Not to mention with hair dye running down his cheek.  Rudy can’t be bothered to buy a box of permanent dye at Walgreens, like I do?

  97. 97.

    TBone

    October 3, 2024 at 1:10 pm

    @scav: I see rainbows, butterflies and unicorns! 😍

  98. 98.

    Omnes Omnibus

    October 3, 2024 at 1:10 pm

    @Geoduck: Federal law.

  99. 99.

    HumboldtBlue

    October 3, 2024 at 1:11 pm

    Biden administration can move forward with student loan forgiveness, federal judge rules

  100. 100.

    Villago Delenda Est

    October 3, 2024 at 1:11 pm

    @rikyrah: I am so tired of White people wanting to be White, rather than them wanting to live in a pluralistic society with opportunity for all.

    Hell, yes, and I say this as a white cishet boomer male.

  101. 101.

    TBone

    October 3, 2024 at 1:12 pm

    @eclare: 😆

    I used to use the temporary stuff too until I got retired and learned to be proud of every gray hair I earned.  And I never had a sweaty rivulet running down my head!

  102. 102.

    Villago Delenda Est

    October 3, 2024 at 1:13 pm

    My calendar notes that the 16th is “National Boss Day.”  So, take your boss to lunch and heavy on the salmonella!

  103. 103.

    Steve in the ATL

    October 3, 2024 at 1:13 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: maybe the flag in the Portage  County sheriff’s office didn’t have gold fringe on it so he didn’t have the legal authority to issue a statement

  104. 104.

    TBone

    October 3, 2024 at 1:13 pm

    @Villago Delenda Est: tee hee!

  105. 105.

    TBone

    October 3, 2024 at 1:13 pm

    @Steve in the ATL: 😆😆😆

  106. 106.

    Sister Golden Bear

    October 3, 2024 at 1:14 pm

    @WaterGirl:

    I talked beth into putting up an Amazon wishlist, but she’s being very “there are people who are worse off than we are” .

    Would she be willing to put wishlist items for the others who are worse off?

  107. 107.

    Villago Delenda Est

    October 3, 2024 at 1:14 pm

    @TBone: A gracious hello!

  108. 108.

    Chris

    October 3, 2024 at 1:14 pm

    @suzanne:

    Well, also true.  Add that as another reason why, like I said, even their dislike of pedophilia is… inconsistent, at best.

  109. 109.

    Villago Delenda Est

    October 3, 2024 at 1:15 pm

    @Steve in the ATL: It’s just science.

  110. 110.

    frosty

    October 3, 2024 at 1:15 pm

    Congratulations! That’s got to be a relief.

    I guess I’m going in person because I haven’t requested a PA mail ballot yet. Still thinking about it though. I volunteered to watch the vote count at one of the polling places but it would be after I vote.

  111. 111.

    scav

    October 3, 2024 at 1:15 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: hmmm, mysterious indeed.  My cut and paste must have developed a geographical fault or . . . . .  not a clue.  New WI hobby, assuming governmental powers outside of one’s purview?

  112. 112.

    MattF

    October 3, 2024 at 1:15 pm

    I got my (Maryland) ballot last week, filled it in, mailed it off the next day. Felt so good to vote for Harris, Raskin, Alsobrooks, and a pro-choice constitutional amendment. Got an email a couple of days ago from Maryland saying they’ve got it, so I’m all done.

  113. 113.

    HumboldtBlue

    October 3, 2024 at 1:16 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: ​ 

    It may be because of a conflict of interest with Wausau sheriff (I have no idea what sheriffs in Wisconsin are responsible for) so they asked the neighboring county to handle the investigation.

  114. 114.

    Steve in the ATL

    October 3, 2024 at 1:18 pm

    @HumboldtBlue: what sheriff would concede that??

  115. 115.

    Sister Golden Bear

    October 3, 2024 at 1:18 pm

    @Rand Careaga: Glad for both of you that you’ve had more time together.

    FWIW, if your wife is able to get there (I realized that’s a big if), early voting centers open on October 7, same day that ballots are mailed. Check with your local county’s election office.

  116. 116.

    Rose Judson

    October 3, 2024 at 1:18 pm

    My ballot arrived today! I was out when it came, so I’ll post it tomorrow. One more for a Blue Pennsylvania!

  117. 117.

    JML

    October 3, 2024 at 1:19 pm

    @TBone: Apparently Rudy was well-known to be a clown as soon as he became Mayor. he handled the public facing stuff around 9/11 and the aftermath well and it papered over the litany of problems he had. Olbermann did a great bit on this where they were both at some baseball-related bit and Rudy was supposed to introduce Olbermann and couldn’t remember his name and was out of it the whole time that an aide kept whisper-screaming in his ear where he was, what he was doing, and who he was introducing right up until he stepped up on stage and “America’s Mayor” still bungled it.

    Rudy can sell it…briefly. So long as he doesn’t have to produce anything, explain more than the top line, or organize anything more complex than a 1-car parade. Total egomaniac too.

  118. 118.

    Steve in the ATL

    October 3, 2024 at 1:19 pm

    @Villago Delenda Est: I must confess that I missed the class in law school that addressed flag fringe matters

  119. 119.

    geg6

    October 3, 2024 at 1:20 pm

    Got mine in the morning mail and will be dropping it at the Post Office this afternoon.  Every Dem oval I filled made me happy!

  120. 120.

    Omnes Omnibus

    October 3, 2024 at 1:20 pm

    @HumboldtBlue: ​
      That’s an interesting guess, but Sheriff’s offices have virtually no authority inside a city limits and very few investigators. The conflict of interest with Wausau PD would explain why the state is there.

  121. 121.

    TBone

    October 3, 2024 at 1:21 pm

    @HumboldtBlue: now I see rose petals and my favorite chocolate bon bons in addition to rainbows, butterflies, and unicorns! 😍🥳

  122. 122.

    Sister Golden Bear

    October 3, 2024 at 1:21 pm

    @rikyrah: I left my shocked face in my other purse.

    Seriously, it’s hardly surprising at all, given how Trump repeatedly vowed to not give emergency funds to CA because we didn’t bend the knee.

  123. 123.

    rikyrah

    October 3, 2024 at 1:21 pm

    @Geoduck:

    If that really is your actual ballot, I’m surprised Florida includes instructions in Spanish. Maybe a sop to the Cuban population?

     

    Cook County, Illinois here.

    All ballots here are in English/Spanish.

    And, depending upon the precinct where you live, you can get a ballot it in one of 9 additional languages.

     

    You straight up live in a place with English-only ballots?

  124. 124.

    TBone

    October 3, 2024 at 1:21 pm

    @Villago Delenda Est: 💜🤜🤛

  125. 125.

    Harrison Wesley

    October 3, 2024 at 1:22 pm

    @eclare: I guess he thought the embalming fluid would work.  Or do I have him confused with Rick Scott?

  126. 126.

    rikyrah

    October 3, 2024 at 1:23 pm

    @WaterGirl:

    I talked beth into putting up an Amazon wishlist, but she’s being very “there are people who are worse off than we are” .  So the list only has 2 items on it so far.  Anyway… if you are inclined to want to help click on the link ad see if either item grabs you.

     

    She can add things for other people to the wishlist.

  127. 127.

    TBone

    October 3, 2024 at 1:23 pm

    @frosty: I think the deadline for mail ballot applications in Pennsylvania is already past.  But I’m not certain.

    NOPE. You’re good till Oct. 29

    5 p.m. Oct. 29, 2024: Your APPLICATION for a mail-in or absentee ballot must be received by your county election office.

  128. 128.

    rikyrah

    October 3, 2024 at 1:24 pm

    @Sister Golden Bear:

    Seeing in black and white, the other day, that story from North Carolina in 2017 where

     

    99%

    NINETY-NINE PERCENT

    Of their requested aid was DENIED.

    How just reading that made my blood boil.

  129. 129.

    Sister Golden Bear

    October 3, 2024 at 1:25 pm

    @Anotherlurker.: Other short cuts: Vote against anything supported by the Howard Jarvis (of Prop 13 infamy) Taxpayers Association. Also can be handy to check your local Republican Party’s recommendations, and vote against everything they recommend.

  130. 130.

    rikyrah

    October 3, 2024 at 1:26 pm

    @TBone:

    Dates and deadlines · Pennsylvania

    From Democracy Works

        • Mail and absentee deadlines
    • Request ballot (received by)
      By 5 PM on Oct 29

    • Return ballot by mail (received by)
      By 8 PM on Nov 5
    • Return ballot in person
      By 8 PM on Nov 5
  131. 131.

    TBone

    October 3, 2024 at 1:26 pm

    @rikyrah: me too.  I thought he couldn’t get to me anymore but WTAF.

  132. 132.

    TBone

    October 3, 2024 at 1:28 pm

    @rikyrah: yep I revised my comment as I frequently do after the fact (it’s an unfortunate product of my years proofing and editing legal documents to put things into print and then revise).

  133. 133.

    bbleh

    October 3, 2024 at 1:28 pm

    @TBone: not yet.  From pa.gov

    Deadlines for the Nov. 5, 2024, General Election

    5 p.m. Oct. 29: Your APPLICATION for a mail-in or absentee ballot must be received by your county election office.
    8 p.m. Nov. 5: Your county election office must RECEIVE your completed mail ballot by this time. A postmark by 8 p.m. Nov. 5 is not sufficient

    @rikyrah: @TBone: lol, BJ, your one-stop election information center.

  134. 134.

    rikyrah

    October 3, 2024 at 1:28 pm

    Hadas Gold

    @Hadas_Gold

    NEW: CNN reached out to Melania Trump’s book publisher to request an interview. After several exchanges, the publisher sent a contract with a price tag: $250,000. Now the publisher says it was a “miscommunication”

    https://x.com/Hadas_Gold/status/1841856745490038807

  135. 135.

    Chris

    October 3, 2024 at 1:29 pm

    @rikyrah:

    I am so tired of White people wanting to be White, rather than them wanting to live in a pluralistic society with opportunity for all.

    My general theory of whiteness is that I want “white” to go the way of “WASP.”  Something that still exists and describes a shit ton of people, but isn’t really an existential identity marker or, more importantly, a barrier between yourself and the rest of the community.  Very few white Anglo-Protestants care anymore if their daughter marries an Irishman, property values don’t drop if the most common name in the neighborhood goes from “Brown” to “Mallozzi,” a Catholic can be president without immediately causing a national backlash demanding that the Real Americans take back their country… etc.  And of course, people can have their Oktoberfests, their Saint Patrick’s Days, and their Columbus Days without being accused of disloyalty and reverse racism.  (Yes, I’m aware that Columbus Day is problematic for other reasons).

    I want the “white”/”nonwhite” barrier to look like the “WASP”/”white ethnic” barrier.  Not saying that’s going to solve every problem faced by nonwhite communities, but damn if it isn’t a good start.

  136. 136.

    Mr. Bemused Senior

    October 3, 2024 at 1:29 pm

    @Sister Golden Bear: Vote against anything supported by the Howard Jarvis (of Prop 13 infamy) Taxpayers Association.

    That has been my strategy for years. Saves a lot of time 😁

    [ETA worry: will they eventually catch on and start faking us out?]

  137. 137.

    Caroline

    October 3, 2024 at 1:29 pm

    I got my ballot in the mail 2 days ago and voted yesterday! (In NYC)

  138. 138.

    TBone

    October 3, 2024 at 1:29 pm

    @Harrison Wesley: 😂 they are both undead.

    TCM featured Bela Lugosi last night.

  139. 139.

    Villago Delenda Est

    October 3, 2024 at 1:30 pm

    @Sister Golden Bear: I was happy the day Howard Jarvis died.

  140. 140.

    rikyrah

    October 3, 2024 at 1:31 pm

    In releasing Jack Smith’s motion, Judge Chutkan went

    ” A’ight….bet.’

    to John Roberts.

  141. 141.

    frosty

    October 3, 2024 at 1:32 pm

    @TBone: I just checked too. My County hasn’t released mail-in ballots yet. I’ll probably drive up to the courthouse, get my ballot, fill it out and give it to them in person. Could be a long line at the polling place this year.

  142. 142.

    TBone

    October 3, 2024 at 1:32 pm

    @rikyrah: 💙😍

  143. 143.

    TBone

    October 3, 2024 at 1:32 pm

    @frosty: good plan!!!  Mask up if necessary please, we need all of us on the good people team!

    My county has not yet released ballots either.

  144. 144.

    Chief Oshkosh

    October 3, 2024 at 1:34 pm

    Congratulations, BC.

  145. 145.

    rikyrah

    October 3, 2024 at 1:35 pm

    This level of delusion is downright terrifying to me.
    Being from a group that takes White people at their word, which is why we’ve survived for over 400 years here…
    This level of delusion is baffling.

    Chicano Marine 🇲🇽🇺🇸💙
    @kingsrush
    The level of stupidity from first-generation immigrants who plan on voting for a man who wants to take birthright citizenship away amazes me.

    You are exactly who Trump is talking about stripping citizenship from Pendejos!!!
    9:06 AM · Oct 3, 2024
    https://x.com/kingsrush/status/1841842244497690928

  146. 146.

    scav

    October 3, 2024 at 1:36 pm

    Did find this Wausau ballot box drama heads to Madison as mayor remains calm amid investigation

    NewsChannel 7 reached out to Portage County as they are in charge of investigating this and they tell us their investigation is over. They have handed all of their information back to the Marathon County District Attorney’s Office. Portage County also told us the Department of Criminal Investigation might be investigating this case too. We reached out to the Wausau City Clerk’s Office to confirm this and they say they don’t know.

    which doesn’t explain why, but there was a county-swap.  So at least we’re not speculating a typo / brainfart.

  147. 147.

    TBone

    October 3, 2024 at 1:36 pm

    @bbleh: that’s why we all love this place!

  148. 148.

    TBone

    October 3, 2024 at 1:37 pm

    @rikyrah: blech

  149. 149.

    geg6

    October 3, 2024 at 1:38 pm

    @TBone:

    I’m truly shocked that Beaver County got ours out this early.  We’re generally not that efficient around here.

  150. 150.

    Sister Golden Bear

    October 3, 2024 at 1:40 pm

    Jan. 6 cultist finds out that they’re not the only one with guns. QAnon Rioter Killed In Shooting At Her Seattle Home After Pointing Shotgun At Men Delivering Paperwork She was about to be evicted because her house had been foreclosed on, and presumably the process servers were delivering paperwork related to that.

    In other news, I’m about to play hooky and head over the hill to the beach and escape the week-long extraordinary heatwave we’re having. Temps have been 30-35 above normal, and it was 104 yesterday.

  151. 151.

    Rusty

    October 3, 2024 at 1:40 pm

    @Rand Careaga: Sending your wife prayers, and prayers for you, family, friends, caregivers and all that love and care for your wife.

  152. 152.

    Belafon

    October 3, 2024 at 1:41 pm

    @Chris: I think we’ll need the Vulcans to arrive for that to happen.

  153. 153.

    stinger

    October 3, 2024 at 1:43 pm

    Thank you, Betty Cracker!

  154. 154.

    TBone

    October 3, 2024 at 1:43 pm

    @geg6: well good for them!  I too am pleasantly surprised!

  155. 155.

    tam1MI

    October 3, 2024 at 1:43 pm

    Glad to hear you are still with us, Betty!

  156. 156.

    BR

    October 3, 2024 at 1:43 pm

    KamalaHQ keeps pumping out these short and punchy video clips, this one on Vance’s support for a national abortion ban:

    https://www.tiktok.com/@kamalahq/video/7421579433120714030

  157. 157.

    rikyrah

    October 3, 2024 at 1:44 pm

    DFW Sports 4Life
    @Kennymack1971
    Katrina didn’t end Bush’s second term. The response did. The RWs pathetic attempts to use Helene to boost Trump/attack Biden and Harris flopped because the response has been on point and the receipts are there to prove it.
    https://x.com/Kennymack1971/status/1841872373227696152

  158. 158.

    Steve LaBonne

    October 3, 2024 at 1:44 pm

    First day of early voting in Ohio is Oct. 7. I will vote soon thereafter (I generally avoid the first day because it can be pretty busy).

  159. 159.

    TBone

    October 3, 2024 at 1:44 pm

    Ringing my bell, got a hammer, gonna use it!

    I realize there’s a lot going on. But the future of the nation, possibly the world, is on the line in this election and it is the most important story right now even with the middle east on fire and a major disaster in the southeast. It’s not old news.

    FTFNYT x 10,000

    https://digbysblog.net/2024/10/03/trump-benefits-once-again/

    Brings the receipts!

  160. 160.

    Villago Delenda Est

    October 3, 2024 at 1:44 pm

    @Sister Golden Bear: The only good January 6 traitor is a dead one.

  161. 161.

    Harrison Wesley

    October 3, 2024 at 1:45 pm

    @TBone: I assume you’ve seen that early-release Scott for President ’28 ad?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b59rxDB_JRg

  162. 162.

    Paul W.

    October 3, 2024 at 1:47 pm

    WHOOO! Congrats Betty!

    Just mailed in my NYC/NY ballot today as well, gotta figure out what I’m going to do to help GOTV on election day. Also, almost finished up a batch of 50 postcards and did my phonebank training so I can do that once I get a breather from some family drama…. ugh, still a long way to the finish line.

    I am excited to see the fundraising numbers for the last quarter/month though!

  163. 163.

    TBone

    October 3, 2024 at 1:48 pm

    @Villago Delenda Est:

    💜🖤

    While I feel sorta like a bad person, that bad person is way worse, so…

  164. 164.

    Nukular Biskits

    October 3, 2024 at 1:48 pm

    @Betty Cracker:

    If you don’t mind, I’d like to steal that image so I can troll my idiot governor who trotted out the “FEAR THE SKEERY BROWN PEOPLE IF KAMALA WINS!!!111!!” bullshit today.

  165. 165.

    Sister Golden Bear

    October 3, 2024 at 1:48 pm

    @Chris: “Whiteness” has repeatedly been redefined over the centuries to include more and more white ethnic groups. Hasn’t stopped racism.

    Especially since those newly deemed “white” or those aspiring to be “white adjacent” (I see this among some Hispanic, Asian American and Indian American folks here in CA) are more than happy to use racism as a way of demonstrating their in-group status.*

    *And yes, folks from this groups can also bring racisms from their own cultural traditions as well.

  166. 166.

    TBone

    October 3, 2024 at 1:50 pm

    @Harrison Wesley: 😆

    What a treat.  Horror is usually not my thing, even in October, but this year since real life is so scary I look at the movies and LOL!

  167. 167.

    a thousand flouncing lurkers (was fidelio)

    October 3, 2024 at 1:55 pm

    For anyone looking for ways to donate to Helene survivors, now we have Amazon wishlists

    That one is for western North Carolina, and looks to be the sort of stuff you’d really want in that situation, from baby needs to chainsaw oil and safety glasses. There are likely others for other areas.

    If you’re willing to spend money at Amazon, give the list a look.

  168. 168.

    Ceci n est pas mon nym

    October 3, 2024 at 1:55 pm

    We just got the emails from the PA Dept of State telling us our mail-in ballots are on the way. PA’s early-voting procedures vary by county. I believe here in Delaware County the dropboxes open on Oct 14.

    My wife, who doesn’t usually consume a lot of political media prior to elections, has been absolutely obsessed this year. She’s the one passing articles and substacks on to me rather than vice versa. She just signed us up for a second GOTV postcarding operation, this one dedicated to reaching 18 year olds. The stats on youth participation rates are still shockingly low in a lot of places.

  169. 169.

    Betty Cracker

    October 3, 2024 at 1:56 pm

    @Rand Careaga: Sending strength and courage vibes.

  170. 170.

    Anotherlurker.

    October 3, 2024 at 1:58 pm

    Dear Betty Cracker, it is my sincere belief that there are many more elections ahead for you to cast your ballot.  I also look forward to more of your humorous, insightful commentary.

    I anticipate more beautiful photos of Spoonbills, Flamingos, various shades of Herons, Anhingas (their name always sounds like a sneeze to me), Gators  and numerous other critters.  I am also waiting for more doggie stories.

  171. 171.

    TBone

    October 3, 2024 at 1:59 pm

    @Ceci n est pas mon nym: I feel a new kinship, did not realize where you are – if you already told me, I’m embarrassed that I forgot. I get so homesick sometimes, especially when trying to order out for food and nobody here will deliver despite our proximity to town.  Hubby brought DelCo cheesesteaks home yesterday though.  Delivery is really important when I’m too ill to cook.

  172. 172.

    Eolirin

    October 3, 2024 at 1:59 pm

    @suzanne: If white women start voting for democrats like white men vote for republicans, that’s game over for the republicans. It won’t matter what percentage of minority men they end up peeling off. They won’t be able to win anywhere.

    So I’m okay with this trend. If it’s between men and women women will win, decisively. What would be problematic is if they start making serious inroads with minority men and white women stick with them.

  173. 173.

    DAstronomer

    October 3, 2024 at 2:00 pm

    Fucking A, bubba. Glad you’re still kicking!

  174. 174.

    Sister Golden Bear

    October 3, 2024 at 2:01 pm

    @Harrison Wesley: Nosferatu is running scared, and is putting $10 million of his own money into the race.

  175. 175.

    Old School

    October 3, 2024 at 2:01 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus:

     I am a little confused as to why Portage County Sheriff is making a statement.

    @scav:

    which doesn’t explain why, but there was a county-swap.

    The DA turned it over.

    The Portage County Sheriff’s Office will be conducting the investigation into the removal of the Absentee Ballot Box in the City of Wausau. The Wisconsin Department of Justice will continue to be apprised of the status and findings of the investigation. Due to the initiation of an investigation into this matter, no further comment will be made by the Marathon County District Attorney’s Office or Portage County Sheriff’s Office until such time as the investigation has been completed and the District Attorney’s Office has conducted a thorough review.

    Theresa Wetzsteon, Marathon County District Attorney

  176. 176.

    TBone

    October 3, 2024 at 2:02 pm

    @DAstronomer: that’s the way it’s done!

  177. 177.

    SatanicPanic

    October 3, 2024 at 2:02 pm

    @Sister Golden Bear: QAnon becomes Q a non-living person

  178. 178.

    sdhays

    October 3, 2024 at 2:03 pm

    @JML: I really can’t forgive the media industrial complex that just GUSHED over his performance as mayor when the building where he insisted the city put its disaster command center went down in flames because he wanted to be able to walk there to meet his fucking mistress.

    How many died because that fucker couldn’t pay for his own tryst cave?

  179. 179.

    Kirk

    October 3, 2024 at 2:03 pm

    @Baud:

    I hope Harris wins FL by one vote.

    I understand the point, but sincerely hope she wins by at least 5%, preferably 10%, with coat tails to match.

    Yours is closer to likelihood, however.

  180. 180.

    DCrefugee

    October 3, 2024 at 2:03 pm

    @rikyrah

    They’ve put on this woman’s shoulders the responsibility for saving democracy in America with 100 days to do it.

    This should be in rotation at the top of the home page.

  181. 181.

    Ceci n est pas mon nym

    October 3, 2024 at 2:06 pm

    @TBone: We’ve had the Delco discussion before, I think. We are not natives, moved here from MD in 2001 (we moved from the area where the DC sniper was operating, but that was not the reason). You seem a lot more plugged into Delco culture than we are, so I always enjoy reading your posts. For instance, I only just started subscribing to the Inky after living here 20+ years.

    Hubby brought DelCo cheesesteaks home yesterday though.

    See? Like that. I have no idea why a Delco cheesesteak would be different or better than what you can get in Philly.

  182. 182.

    Nicholas Gibbs

    October 3, 2024 at 2:06 pm

    I can’t believe America’s ding-a-ling* is still allowing the devil’s language on ballots.

    *Florida, DeSantis, Bigots in general, whatever makes you happy here.

  183. 183.

    TBone

    October 3, 2024 at 2:07 pm

    @Sister Golden Bear: may that money be wasted wasted wasted since we all know he stole from MEDICARE.  Fucker.

  184. 184.

    Chris

    October 3, 2024 at 2:07 pm

    @Sister Golden Bear:

    Yes, which is why I said that the barrier between “white” and “not white” needed to stop mattering.  Not that it needed to expand so we could have a few more white people.

  185. 185.

    Harrison Wesley

    October 3, 2024 at 2:08 pm

    @Sister Golden Bear: I guess that money scammed from Medicare is being put to good use.  So far there’s only one vote against him that I’m sure of.

  186. 186.

    TBone

    October 3, 2024 at 2:08 pm

    @Ceci n est pas mon nym: it’s the use of American cheese.  No other cheese is valid in DelCo – and certainly not Whiz!

    I mean, you can order other kinds, but if you order a cheesesteak with fried onions without specifying anything else, you’ll always get American cheese!

  187. 187.

    eclare

    October 3, 2024 at 2:09 pm

    @Anotherlurker.:

    What a beautiful sentiment.

  188. 188.

    Betty Cracker

    October 3, 2024 at 2:11 pm

    @Nukular Biskits: Permission granted!

  189. 189.

    WaterGirl

    October 3, 2024 at 2:13 pm

    @Sister Golden Bear: beth still has her house, which is why she is better off.  Still no power, no water expected for 5 weeks.  Everything is complicated.

    Just getting thru the the day is hard, she’s not in a position to be organizing.

  190. 190.

    WaterGirl

    October 3, 2024 at 2:15 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: Conflict of interest?  Personal friends? Corruption more widespread than we know at this point?

    I’ll stop speculating now!

  191. 191.

    suzanne

    October 3, 2024 at 2:15 pm

    @Eolirin:

    If white women start voting for democrats like white men vote for republicans, that’s game over for the republicans. 

    Yes, that’s my hope.

    Seems to be bearing out for younger white women. I will be interested to see how the data shakes out.

  192. 192.

    Sister Golden Bear

    October 3, 2024 at 2:17 pm

    @WaterGirl: Fair enough. I was thinking more of if she happened to know of anyone personally who could use help.

  193. 193.

    wjca

    October 3, 2024 at 2:20 pm

    @Urza: I could be mistaken, but shouldn’t the party in power be on top for the ballots?  Or is that only for incumbents and the states decide otherwise?

    In California, the long-standing standard is totally randomized order. Including all the fringe parties.  No preference for being the party in power, the incumbent, last name’s initial letter early in the alphabet, etc.

  194. 194.

    TBone

    October 3, 2024 at 2:20 pm

    Reposting for all of us but especially the women. Julie Andrews as a Handmaid in Project 2025 parody *chef’s kiss!

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Ojr4ryZZzpY

    Don’t miss the Domestic Abuse message at the end.

  195. 195.

    David 🐝KHive🐝 Koch

    October 3, 2024 at 2:20 pm

    that’s some bullshit. They left Baud off the ballot.

  196. 196.

    Dorothy A. Winsor

    October 3, 2024 at 2:23 pm

    We filled out and mailed our ballots today too!

  197. 197.

    Mike S. (Now with a Democratic Congressperson!)

    October 3, 2024 at 2:26 pm

    @scav:   @TBone:  The story doesn’t say if there were any ballots in the dropbox when he stole it. If yes I think he will really FO after his FU.

  198. 198.

    StringOnAStick

    October 3, 2024 at 2:29 pm

    @ArchTeryx: Have you considered that living close enough to a gun range to hear it all the time is not good for your mental health?  I know it would subliminally get to me.

  199. 199.

    Omnes Omnibus

    October 3, 2024 at 2:36 pm

    @Old School: Thanks.

  200. 200.

    Citizen Alan

    October 3, 2024 at 2:40 pm

    @TBone: Since moving to California, I have been consistently surprised at the level of snobbery I’ve encountered towards American Cheese, which foodies of my acquaintance insist is not actually cheese at all.

  201. 201.

    Citizen Alan

    October 3, 2024 at 2:43 pm

    @wjca: IIRC, Mississippi changed to that after there were a number of high-profile incidents where a reasonably well-respected and competent official in a down-ticket race lost to a fringe challenger whose name came first alphabetically. I want to say that it was a factor in a former Chief Justice of the Miss Sup Ct losing to an utter jackass, but it might have already changed before then.

  202. 202.

    Steve in the ATL

    October 3, 2024 at 2:45 pm

    @sdhays:
     

    fucking mistress

    redundant?

  203. 203.

    Jeffro

    October 3, 2024 at 2:48 pm

    Way to go, Betty!  Now stick around for President Harris’ extraordinarily successful and historic two terms, please.  =)

    I voted on the first day of Virginia’s in-person early voting almost two weeks ago.  Took me 10 minutes instead of the usual 5…oh, the agony! (kidding)

  204. 204.

    wjca

    October 3, 2024 at 2:48 pm

    @Citizen Alan: Since moving to California, I have been consistently surprised at the level of snobbery I’ve encountered towards American Cheese, which foodies of my acquaintance insist is not actually cheese at all.

    There’s a reason why, on the package, it says “cheese food” [emphasis added] rather than just saying cheese.  Because it’s only about 51% actual chesse. 

  205. 205.

    Mousebumples

    October 3, 2024 at 2:50 pm

    @eclare: happy birthday to you, fellow Libra!

  206. 206.

    Fake Irishman

    October 3, 2024 at 2:52 pm

    @Sister Golden Bear:

    One of my professors at Michigan, Arthur Lupia, got his first big political science publication based on how voters used these outside cues given by endorsements to manage complicated ballot initiatives.  He showed empirically that as long as voters understood the identities of the groups  they actually could do a pretty good job navigating even really complicated esoteric issues like competing referenda on car insurance. He was at Cal Tech at the time.

  207. 207.

    Harrison Wesley

    October 3, 2024 at 2:55 pm

    @wjca: I haven’t bought any in a while.  Is it still officially “pasteurized processed cheese food?”

  208. 208.

    TBone

    October 3, 2024 at 2:57 pm

    @Citizen Alan: they are sorely mistaken, unless they’re dumb enough to buy slices wrapped in cellophane 😆

    American cheese is real cheese you order at the deli counter because it must be sliced from off of the large REAL cheese.

    Wiki

    American cheese is a type of processed cheese made from cheddar, Colby, or similar cheeses, in conjunction with sodium citrate, which permits the cheese to be pasteurized without its components separating.

  209. 209.

    columbusqueen

    October 3, 2024 at 2:58 pm

    Endless congratulations, Betty. It’s a good day.

  210. 210.

    StringOnAStick

    October 3, 2024 at 2:59 pm

    Breaking news: Tina Peters, the former Mesa County clerk who gave unauthorized access to county voting equipment to try to prove fraudulent voting, some of which ended up in Mike Lindell’s hands, has been sentenced to serve her full 9 years in prison in Colorado.  FAFO, bitch!

  211. 211.

    TBone

    October 3, 2024 at 3:01 pm

    @StringOnAStick: YES YES YES!!!!   WOO HOO!

    It IS a great day! 💙

  212. 212.

    Msb

    October 3, 2024 at 3:04 pm

    @ArchTeryx: is it possible to take some comfort in the fact that cults of personality seldom survive the personality in question? I know it’s a big if, but if we can beat him this round, that may be the last round with that particular foe. There will still be lots of baddies around, but they will need to find a new grift.
    Well done, you and your fiancée, for voting. Putting my completed ballot in the mail a week ago felt great.

  213. 213.

    Eduardo

    October 3, 2024 at 3:06 pm

    @Geoduck: In Miami-Dade and Broward counties — only places I’ve voted — you can have your ballot either in English, Spanish or Haitian Creole.

    There aren’t too many Cubans where Betty lives in Northern Florida.

  214. 214.

    rikyrah

    October 3, 2024 at 3:09 pm

    @StringOnAStick:

    BWA HA HA HA AH AHA HA

    Enjoy prison

  215. 215.

    Eduardo

    October 3, 2024 at 3:10 pm

    @Geoduck: By the way, since you are supposed to know English to be an American citizen, I think it speaks well about the decency and generosity of the American people that they print the ballots in other languages.

    As a gesture of gratitude, I always pick my ballot in English.

  216. 216.

    TBone

    October 3, 2024 at 3:15 pm

    @Eduardo: I believe we should be able to request a ballot in the language of our choice but I like your effort at collegiality.  In PA, only counties with a certain percentage of minorities must adhere:

    There are currently three counties in Pennsylvania that should provide voting materials and assistance in Spanish:

    Berks County
    Lehigh County
    Philadelphia County

    There is currently one county in Pennsylvania that should provide voting materials and assistance in Chinese:

    Philadelphia County

  217. 217.

    wjca

    October 3, 2024 at 3:18 pm

    @Harrison Wesley: I haven’t bought any in a while.  Is it still officially “pasteurized processed cheese food?”

    It’s been a while for me as well.  But that’s definitely what it said.

    It does show why you don’t have to be some kind of foodie or food snob to be underwhelmed by it as any kind of food, let alone as cheese.

  218. 218.

    Steve in the ATL

    October 3, 2024 at 3:22 pm

    @StringOnAStick: hopefully ADX Florence and not Vail or Aspen!

  219. 219.

    wjca

    October 3, 2024 at 3:25 pm

    @Eduardo: since you are supposed to know English to be an American citizen, I think it speaks well about the decency and generosity of the American people that they print the ballots in other languages.

    To become an American citizen, perhaps.  (Although there are exceptions, which allow some applicants to use an interpreter.)  But for those born here, there absolutely is no requirement to know English.  Let alone a requirement to be fluent enough to decipher the language used in various ballot propositions — which even us highly educated native speakers find challenging.

  220. 220.

    jimmiraybob

    October 3, 2024 at 3:25 pm

    Why are Harris and Walz on the ballot? I’ve never seen such a blatant case of election interference! Once team Trump-Vance fix things …..

    [I was going to just delete this as too obvious but then decided to go ahead and scream into the void. Feel a little better now. Thanks all around.]

  221. 221.

    Sasha

    October 3, 2024 at 3:36 pm

    Yay, Betty!  In Virginia the party of the previous winner is listed first so Harris/Walz are before Trump.  I hope that translates into a few extra votes.  I voted yesterday.

  222. 222.

    JPL

    October 3, 2024 at 3:36 pm

    GA ballots were mailed out today and hopefully they deliver Jimmy’s soon.     My son and I are going early to stand in line on the 15th.

  223. 223.

    Spanish Moss

    October 3, 2024 at 3:43 pm

    Awesome, so glad to hear it! Can’t wait to experience that satisfaction myself.

  224. 224.

    JaneE

    October 3, 2024 at 3:44 pm

    Our ballots should be coming soon.  I still need to go through about half the propositions.  The first ones were easy calls, but now the issues are more complicated (rent control anyone?)

  225. 225.

    Eduardo

    October 3, 2024 at 3:49 pm

    @TBone:

    @wjca:

    I’m in full agreement with printing ballots in minority languages, I am still grateful we do it here.  Not taken it as a given, it is still a generous impulse with the once-stranger you took in.

    Very good point on being able to naturalize without passing the English test/citizenship exam.   As far as the amendment/proposition language,  it doesn’t matter what language the ballot is written, I always have to read about what is in them elsewhere before I fill the ballot.   I am not super smart but doubt most people would be able to read the text at the voting precinct and be sure what they are doing regardless of language.

  226. 226.

    Ksmiami

    October 3, 2024 at 3:58 pm

    @Betty Cracker: hi miss Betty how are you feeling ?

  227. 227.

    Ksmiami

    October 3, 2024 at 4:03 pm

    @WaterGirl: let’s help her w a go fund me

  228. 228.

    wjca

    October 3, 2024 at 4:06 pm

    @Eduardo: As far as the amendment/proposition language,  it doesn’t matter what language the ballot is written, I always have to read about what is in them elsewhere before I fill the ballot.

    I find the most consistently helpful thing is to read the arguments for and against, and the rebuttals, which included with the election booklet. (Also available in multiple languages.)  Usually most of the propositions have one side or the other immediately identifiable as crazy, ill-intentioned, and/or utterly self-serving.  Leaving just a couple where there are plausible cases on both sides, and effort is required.

  229. 229.

    Ben Cisco

    October 3, 2024 at 4:20 pm

    Early voting done for me too!!

    And DAMN did it feel GOOD!!

  230. 230.

    Jamey

    October 3, 2024 at 4:22 pm

    Happy for you BettyC!  We’ll have some Chenin Blanc in your honor this afternoon!

  231. 231.

    ErikaF

    October 3, 2024 at 4:23 pm

    @a thousand flouncing lurkers (was fidelio): Thanks – already emailing the wish list link to friends that want to help.

  232. 232.

    Ruckus

    October 3, 2024 at 4:29 pm

    @JML:

    Rudy is also 80 yrs old and showing at least a few signs of senility. He’s not one of the few that is going to be reasonable and in his 90s. He’ll be lucky to make it to 90.

    And of course he hasn’t been all that reasonable for over 60 yrs.

  233. 233.

    PatrickG

    October 3, 2024 at 4:43 pm

    @Anotherlurker.: probably a dead thread but you can safely vote against any Taxpayer Association-backed measures, especially if the name Howard Jarvis appears

  234. 234.

    brantl

    October 3, 2024 at 4:58 pm

    @ArchTeryx:

    Of THAT I completely agree. The best way to make Trump go away permanently is to defeat him at the polls

     

    I suspect it’s going to take burning him in effigy, without the effigy, or throwing water on him, like the Wicked Witch of the West.

  235. 235.

    Bg

    October 3, 2024 at 5:30 pm

    Yay Betty!
    I got mine today.  It’s gonna look a whole lot like yours.

  236. 236.

    Miki

    October 3, 2024 at 5:49 pm

    Yay, Betty C!

    Sent mine off last week.

    #notgoingback

  237. 237.

    Betsy

    October 3, 2024 at 6:22 pm

    You made it!!!  I like seeing that ballot.  Big smile.

    Pulling for you❣️

  238. 238.

    Betsy

    October 3, 2024 at 6:24 pm

    You made it!!!  I like seeing that ballot.  Big smile.

    Pulling for you❣️

  239. 239.

    Betsy

    October 3, 2024 at 6:26 pm

    @Rand Careaga: That is good to hear.  Sending thoughts your way and hoping for good things for both of you.

  240. 240.

    Steve

    October 3, 2024 at 6:29 pm

    This lurker congratulates you!

  241. 241.

    KSinMA

    October 3, 2024 at 7:23 pm

    Betty Cracker:

    ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

  242. 242.

    Gvg

    October 3, 2024 at 7:51 pm

    @Kirk: prefer yes, but it only needs to be .5% to be beyond recount. There are no requested recounts,, only mandatory by law if the margin is .5 or less.

  243. 243.

    The Lodger

    October 4, 2024 at 9:54 pm

    @TBone: American cheese? Wassamatta with Prov?

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