Maybe she just thinks @politico is awful, like so many of us? https://t.co/Mm2mTHXTtc
— Soledad O'Brien (@soledadobrien) October 6, 2024
Former journalist Rudyard Kipling, during the First Gilded Age: “Power without responsibility – the prerogative of the harlot throughout the ages.”
Hey @rachelmbade @eugenedaniels2?
You know how self-discrediting it is to whine about VP Harris' media selection when YOU GUYS fail to mention that Trump backed out of 60 Minutes bc he can't handle fact checking?https://t.co/LbUKXzWydR pic.twitter.com/TI7qOHGRFH
— emptywheel (blue poison dart frog) (@emptywheel) October 6, 2024
I suspect that many of the highest-paid ‘prestige’ journalists would indignantly defend their oh-so-subtle fluffing of #MealTicketDonald as a very serious and demanding professional endeavor; the NYTimes‘ Peter Baker, shall we guess, would much rather be sending tastefully filtered nudes to the Mar-A-Lago fax machines than burning through his subordinates’ brain cells composing verbal slop like this.
So weird how the New York Times, Politico, and Andrea Mitchell of NBC News all have the same complaint – ON THE SAME DAY – about who Kamala Harris is (and is not – none of them) talking to. I'm sure this is purely coincidental & not an attempt to ~ create a narrative ~?? pic.twitter.com/VIXyEh21nI
— scary lawyerguy (@scarylawyerguy) October 6, 2024
I think this is as much or more about declaring what is & isn’t “media,” & anger that Harris is able to bypass them for media that’s not conventional political media, than it is about Harris herself & her campaign. https://t.co/0Ma0aPtTRO
— Dana Houle (@DanaHoule) October 6, 2024
On the other hand, the Jon Turleys and Chris Cillizzas are only too happy to have an excuse to air their particular fetishes so publicly…
Or that they just don't GAF about being right, at least not if it gets in the way of what they've decided they want to say. https://t.co/VF2bYptNOX
— Dana Houle (@DanaHoule) October 3, 2024
My hypothesis: Any historian of our era will say that the Jack Smith dossier about Donald Trump is 1000x more important than HRC emails found on Anthony Weiner's cell phone.
My question: Do we detect any subtle difference in the way these two news breaks were played? pic.twitter.com/QvTjfZ982T
— James Fallows (@JamesFallows) October 3, 2024
anitamargarita
Still amazed at the “neigh” as opposed to “nigh.”
HumboldtBlue
The Phillies managed to beat the two-bit Mets.
So, happy feelings…
Chet Murthy
@anitamargarita: politico is too poor to employ competent copy editors.
HumboldtBlue
There’s a moment when you listen that the Gershwin’s are Tchaikovsky in jazz.
Origuy
@anitamargarita: I have friends whose family name is Nigh. It’s surprising how many people have never seen or heard the name. It’s in a Christmas song, for crissake.
Villago Delenda Est
Mrs. Greenspan is WAY PAST her sell by date.
Villago Delenda Est
@Chet Murthy: Spellcheck seems to be as close to copy editing as the amateurs of Politico get.
HumboldtBlue
Seeing as though I misplaced an apostrophe…
bobbo
That Kamala continues not to do what they want despite all their whining gives me even more confidence in Kamala.
Ishiyama
So Politico doesn’t know the difference between “nigh” and “neigh”. Humph.
Betty Cracker
A similar shitty political media outlet (Axios) has a speculative article that’s somewhat enjoyable:
@anitamargarita: Since the writer is a braying jackass, “neigh” makes a sort of sense…
Chet Murthy
@Betty Cracker: I would -so- like to get in the face of the shitbird who came up with this bullet-point style of article, with “why it matters” and scream down his throat with spittle flying everywhere what I think of their style of article. “why it (fucking) matters!” Fucktards.
TS
Privileged twats
NotMax
Couple of FYIs.
!) Pulling no punches, the Charlotte Observer:
<blockquote<a href="Couple of FYIs.
!) Pulling no punches, the Charlotte Observer.
<blockquote>Shame on Donald Trump for worsening NC’s Helene tragedy with political lie
2) Cray-cray (as if we didn’t already know it).
“>>Shame on Donald Trump for worsening NC’s Helene tragedy with political lies
2) Cray-cray (as if we didn’t already know it).
Betty Cracker
@Chet Murthy: The way they package their formulaic drivel to peddle defense contractor white papers irritates the hell out of me too. Assholes!
NotMax
Drat. Fix.
Couple of FYIs.
!) Pulling no punches, the Charlotte Observer.
<blockquote>Shame on Donald Trump for worsening NC’s Helene tragedy with political lie
2) Cray-cray (as if we didn’t already know it).
Aussie Sheila
@Villago Delenda Est:
Once again you hit the sweet spot. She’s so awful she isn’t even wrong.
She’s execrable. Why hasn’t she been put out to grass? Like two decades ago?
NotMax
Night my best night. Fix the second.
Couple of FYIs.
!) Pulling no punches, the Charlotte Observer.
2) Cray-cray (as if we didn’t already know it).
NotMax
@TS
Garage grunge band name?
//
Lynn Dee
“Neigh on her whole campaign…”
“Nigh,” you idiots! Not “neigh”!
Apparently they have no editors at Politico Playbook.
frog
@NotMax: Next upgrade to the blog software, how about a preview button?
Lily
@Betty Cracker:
It could be a runaway movie tagline …
His identity crisis has unleashed a brutal power struggle. She’s spent years in the wilderness.
Never before has a political brotherhood been so deeply entwined with the fate, fortunes and flaws of one man. Now four consecutive poor election cycles have brought him to the brink, facing a tsunami of scrutiny.
The Old World Party as it currently exists — owing to her protection — may not survive.
David 🐝KHive🐝 Koch
The “Call Me Daddy” podcast is really popular with 20 something women.
That’s a big get. It hits a demo that doesnt traditionally turn out in large numbers and doesnt tune in to conventional news outlets.
Jay
@NotMax:
https://weaponizedspaces.substack.com/p/how-a-viral-rumor-about-a-fema-director?r=1aupz
HumboldtBlue
That’s a big-ass headline, Betty.
Here’s General Washington… part 2
Ishiyama
I noticed that The Breakfast Club is challenging Kamala Harris for not appearing on their show yet; I bet that she will, though, pretty soon.
David 🐝KHive🐝 Koch
Dump has bypassed the media and they’ve given him a free pass.
The same way they give him a free pass for refusing to release his taxes and medical records and his “wife” declining to campaign.
Chet Murthy
@Ishiyama: There’s real brilliance in using access to her campaign, to build up new, possibly friendly media ventures and tear down old unfriendly ones. If she wins, she pushes along the punishment of these old bastards, and the up-and-comers will have reason to be less ….. traitorous and her enemy.
And of course, there was no way that these old bastards would have possibly been anything other than backstabbers, so there’s no downside.
HumboldtBlue
@Ishiyama:
I hope not, I’m way out of bounds, but they ain’t needed.
Jay
@David 🐝KHive🐝 Koch:
and of course, constantly sanewashing his insane rambles,
For the cult, yesterday was “Grazemas”, a national holiday, so for once, or Felon Musk, there was actually a big audience.
TS
@NotMax:
If you think anyone would name their band after the political media.
That cartoon is not funny – it frightens the bejesus out of me. If climate change doesn’t get you – trump will!
schrodingers_cat
@Jay: Caroline Orr is not a credible person.
satby
This is the payback from the media for spoiling their (planned) outcome of pushing Biden out of the race. They didn’t want a settled candidate and unified party; they wanted chaos, drama, and Dems in disarray. All helpful to the guy that kept them rolling in profits for years. They’ll keep pushing until it works, even after she wins. Because they got one scalp and the taste for bending a successful president’s party to their will.
Aussie Sheila
@Chet Murthy:
Exactly. She’s showing the way for left of centre politics in the US in finding new and better ways of reaching more various audiences: various in culture, politics, ethnicity and social affiliations.
I trust that her leadership here will be followed, and less attention paid to the clapped out national print media, let alone the geriatric cable news audiences.
Better and more vigorous local/regional organisation plus an eye to building local/regional digital media would serve centre left politics in the US a lot better than moaning about the fascist adjacent NYT.
Which by the way should be shot into the sun.
Its performance over the last eight years has been simply disgraceful. On a par with its humping for the War against Iraq.
It’s a disgraceful news source, fit for no one interested in the truth.
Jay
@schrodingers_cat:
Sorry you feel that way.
Is it because she is Antifa and was a key research resource post Charlottsville?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caroline_Orr_Bueno
matt
So, media are saying that Harris is dodging her responsibility to interact with hostile media (them)? Seems like a pretty desperate appeal for relevancy, to give the game away like that.
schrodingers_cat
@Jay: No. She has been problematic for a long time. She is one of the resistance grifters like Sarah Doomzior who became famous during the Trump administration.
Aussie Sheila
@matt:
Apart from the whole campaign which I love because its length and shape is far more familiar to me than the usual US 24 month slugfest, I’m just loving the way it’s showing the way to reaching broader and more relevant audiences than the brain dead cable news/beltway print media snooze fest.
Truly her campaign is simply crushing it.
I just hope to heaven they can do what they must in the time left, but I’m actually very optimistic about it. Let’s hope I’m right!
Baud
I love her, and Biden for getting the ball rolling.
True, I’m desperate to learn what she thinks of the latest thing Trump said.
Baud
@David 🐝KHive🐝 Koch:
I had never heard of it, but the bros and bots on reddit were really pissed about it.
Baud
That’s not a narrative. That’s a conspiracy.
satby
Sharing with lower info voters is caring: Politics Girl’s take on Vance and the VP debate.
Baud
If you register voters in swing states, don’t forget to claim your $47 from Elon Musk.
Birdie
I despair sometimes that my work doesn’t matter and I’m not making a meaningful difference. But I feel better when I read almost anything about politics written by a “prestige journalist” – at least I’m not actively making things worse!
I remain disappointed in what the market economy decides is worthy of the big bucks, though. I bet ProPublica researchers don’t make what any of these folks do.
Jay
@schrodingers_cat:
I think you might be confusing her with someone else.
She has never been part of “The Resistance”, Elliot Higgins believes in her, she has been a social media disinfo researcher since 2016, writes about ruZZian and Nazi disinfo, not politics.
Baud
@satby:
Have you heard of Harry Sisson or Jo Carducci? Just saw their names mentioned on reddit as liberal influencers.
Jay
@Baud:
It’s a grey area since Citizen’s United. One would have to dig deep.
It’s not illegal to pay someone to canvass, if it’s a registered 501C.
Aussie Sheila
@Baud:
If those fuckwits are moaning about it, it must be Excellent News For Harris/Walz!
Christ almighty the US msm is simply fucked. Ours is bad enough, but the US is so ‘conservative’ when it comes to new ways of doing politics.
I’m loving it from afar.
Bruce K in ATH-GR
I’m fairly certain that Madame VP’s attitude towards the FTFNYT was at least partially colored by the incident when she went there for a visit and got treated like Biden’s gal Friday, getting grilled on why Biden wasn’t doing his duty and sitting down for an interview by them.
I doubt she’s forgotten, even if the money men at Times Square don’t remember it.
Aussie Sheila
@Bruce K in ATH-GR:
I didn’t know that of course.
Christ they are up themselves. Good for her not ‘sitting down’ like a child, for an interview. Fuck them.
Who do they think they are?
The sooner they understand they are nothing more than a big city News rag the better.
Jay
@Aussie Sheila:
They arn’t even used for fish wrap anymore or bird cage liners.
satby
@Baud: yes. Carducci is better known as JoJo from Jerz, Sisson posts under his own name. Both are on Instagram, TikTok, and Twitter. Da yout all cross-post to all three platforms and they reach a lot of younger voters.
Baud
@satby:
👍
David 🐝KHive🐝 Koch
I, like most voters, want to know her position on Alabama’s stunning loss to unranked Vanderbilt.
Will she be a president for all the conferences or just the Big Ten and ACC?
Aussie Sheila
@Jay:
Good! I have kept my subscription even as I have hated them even more, because given my politics here I need to know ‘official’ US govt thinking so I can be prepared to fight it at home with a better take on what US officialdom is thinking.
So there’s that.
But they have gotten worse in the last two decades than I can ever remember.
TBone
Heather Cox Richardson went all the way there in today’s letter. Important stuff. The truth will set you free, but first it will piss you off. I hope her TRUE narrative makes headlines!
https://heathercoxrichardson.substack.com/p/october-6-2024
Women On Fire Department 🔥
Geminid
@Betty Cracker: Politico ran an article back in March, 2023 (i think) that touched on this question. The theme was an increasing fatalism among anti-Trump Republicans who understood that Trump would not be denied the 2024 nomination, and believed this would end badly for their party.
One said that they would have to hide out in the “storm shelters until the tornado passes,” and then “start rebuilding the neighborhood.”
Now if Trump were to win, this same guy might tell a reporter, “I knew we had the right stuff all along!” But taking Republican hypocrisy as a given, I thought this was a realistic view. Trump has yet to wreck this nation, but he’s fucked up the Republican Party for sure and he’s not done yet.
So I don’t see the Republicans bouncing back very quickly from Trump’s loss. They have lot of problems to solve including intra-party feuds.
I expect Republicans like the ones in the Politico article have some bright ideas on how to solve these problems and are already writing their essays on the rebuilding process. Oh well, so many more op-eds for me not to read.
TBone
@HumboldtBlue: ❤️
TBone
NAY 🙄
TBone
@NotMax: I want to see this woman troll MTG relentlessly by following HER around and shouting the truth. WOMEN ON FIRE.
https://x.com/smalls2672/status/1842599052225200233
I’m reposting this because she deserves another look AND very much sharing.
Gloria DryGarden
@TS: the cartoon: that he’s just as inexorable and damaging as a hurricane, capable of leveling every thing ( I don’t mean level- up).
And quite hard to stop or dodge..
Baud
Back to the topic, normally one would think that a media outlet would want to hide the fact that they couldn’t secure a major candidate for an interview. Just not mention it because no one would really notice.
They fact that they are being very noisy about this is revealing, I think.
p.a.
Nice way these frauds shit on all the “lesser” journalists as well.
Waiting on the headline about voters wanting to hear tRump get specific on policy in 3… 2……….
Baud
@Geminid:
I wish I had faith that enough voters are willing to finally give up on Republicans. Even people who hate them value them as leverage against us.
Aussie Sheila
@TBone:
She’s on the money. It’s unbelievable that one of the only two ‘allowable’ US political parties is actually fascist. But one shouldn’t be surprised.
US exceptionalism was alway bloviating bunk, and as one of the few non US persons who know anything about Reconstruction, no one should really be surprised at the return of the beast.
Christ almighty the world needs to wake up to it. Especially my blighted country. God help us plighting our safety to such a reckless and uncivilised polity.
Baud
Via reddit
satby
@Baud: you’d think, but their media dominance is more important to them and they’re furious. The narrative is getting away!
Also, you’d think that calling out one candidates dangerous lies might get them some interested readers, but that would piss off the convict, so it’s left to alternatives like Huffpost to investigate the trouble the convict and his liars are causing the relief effort.
Baud
@satby:
Liberals complain about MAGA voters not seeing Trump for who he really is. But a lot of libs won’t admit what the NYT-led media has become. The fact is, when humans value something, it’s hard to convince them to stop valuing it.
TBone
@Baud: I used to value the teachings of Christ and the community I belonged to at church. While I still privately value those teachings, I dropped that community like a flaming turd as soon as they became overt fascists. An example of it is possible to let go of something valued when you’re faced with the truth about it.
Baud
@TBone:
It’s possible. But it’s hard, and many people don’t do it quickly enough, if at all
ETA: Good for you for staying true to your values rather than your tribe.
TBone
@Aussie Sheila: 👍 the fact that Heather Cox Richardson went full Antifa today is itself newsworthy. She called out the Nazis without calling them Nazis, so maybe some of the pearl clutching journalists can follow her lead and actually put more of this truth out into the ether.
TBone
@Baud: 💙
Gloria DryGarden
@TBone: I love his heather explains in clear thorough detail, about the way the lies operate to confuse overwhelm and sway people. And her explanation about Hitler’s rule.
And shit, the idea tha 20-30%of socila media political posts are coming from china, Iran, ruszia. Gol darn it.
satby
@Baud: or they admit it but don’t want to give up the crossword or the recipes, or just a habit of long standing. So they fire off angry letters to the editor, which are ignored because the check already cleared.
TBone
@Gloria DryGarden: I love that expression gol durn it and frequently use it IRL. I fervently hope Heather’s truth makes big waves, not merely ripples.
TBone
I have never in my life been so glad to see a honkin’ big cat turd. Hopefully, Noah the Love Cat’s mystery diarrhea is at an end!
SFAW
@HumboldtBlue:
Get thee behind me, Satan.
TBone
Heh. Comments elsewhere:
Call:
Response:
satby
And a word from the Charlotte, NC Observer:
Shame on Donald Trump for worsening NC’s Helene tragedy with political lies
Gloria DryGarden
@TBone: huge, bug assed waves. Fingers crossed.
Gloria DryGarden
@TBone: may it be so. Hoping Noah starts have normal functions and being well..
What Have The Romans Ever Done for Us?
@TS: I don’t think they were going for funny. The sensation you’re feeling is what the cartoonist intended.
Jay
@TBone:
CatTurd 1 or CatTurd 2?
Aussie Sheila
@TBone:
I hope so too. But really, without wanting to be a pita, nothing she says surprises me.
I studied US politics at undergraduate and post graduate level 50 plus years ago. I have been a union organiser and legal advocate for nearly all that time. I have had nothing but fear and loathing for the US Alliance all that time. And I am not alone here. Trust me.
Aussies have a reputation for being cheerful and friendly.
It’s not unfounded.
But there’s a limit.
If that fascist is elected this year you will find any government that sucks up to him will be gone in this country. And if any government here doesn’t listen, they will be in deep shit, beyond anything they have seen since the anti conscription riots early last century.
I’m not the only person in my polity who is fed up with US histrionics and their effect on our security. There are many Aus security boffins who have been warning us for years that the US is unstable and unreliable. I have always thought them right.
An election that returns trump will make this observation popular common sense.
Chet Murthy
Back in 2020 I told all my friends in other countries that if TCFG was re-elected, they needed to treat the US as an enemy, and proceed to cut ties of all kinds with us, lobby their governments to do the same. Treat us as enemies of the West. And I sure hope they do that.
Betty Cracker
I don’t pay the NYT (glommed onto a professional group subscription years ago), but I do read it daily. The non-political reporting is often excellent, and I find it useful to keep tabs on what narratives the political desk is pushing. I also enjoy the puzzles and recipes.
I feel vaguely guilty for giving it clicks sometimes. But I think we all choose where to draw our lines, and there’s little logical consistency in it. For example, lots of people can’t quit x-Twitter despite the takeover by a fascist, anti-queer, misogynist, antisemitic oligarch. They find value there that can’t be replicated elsewhere.
Having quit that platform once, gone back for the baseball commentary component and then quit it again, I’ve got no stones to cast in that direction either. It’s hard to get through the day without being morally compromised on some level.
Baud
@Betty Cracker:
I was born morally compromised. I just wish more people who were making the tradeoffs would admit to themselves that they’re making tradeoffs.
Using Twitter and defending Twitter are two different things. Same with the NYT.
Jay
@Betty Cracker:
Everything on the Dead Bird Site is mirrored on Nitter, and Felon Musk/Illegal Immigrant Crime Lord #1 Pet Eater doesn’t get a single click.
https://nitter.poast.org
satby
And here’s a preview of the Harris interview on Call Her Daddy
Baud
@Jay:
I started using Nitter a little bit, but it’s definitely no substitute from having an account.
Soprano2
It’s political malpractice every time they whine about the interviews Harris is doing without mentioning that TCFG only talks to friendly outlets and resists any kind of fact checking.
satby
@Baud: Nitter doesn’t allow people to push back on disinformation posts on Twitter. Which is why a lot of people are still on Twitter. Why I am too.
Baud
@Soprano2:
They’re hoping to create a talking point for their liberal fans to repeat, which would put pressure on Harris to cave.
What Have The Romans Ever Done for Us?
@Betty Cracker: Yeah I have a WaPo subscription…I live a mile from the DC border so for better or worse it’s the local paper so if I want local news it’s pretty much the only game in town.
Wish all their political reporters would watch All the President’s Men and The Post on a constant loop and think about what they’re doing these days. Those laurels are a half century old. Time to stop resting on them.
TBone
@Aussie Sheila: the “surprising” part is Heather saying out loud, and drawing a detailed map of!, what many in the media are loathe to say (as they commit voluminous sanewashing). She has a huge following that will continue to navigate using that map, and it may even generate enough interest to be “covered” by the MSM. As always, I remain hopeful.
We are not as unstable as certain actors would like us to appear to be.
Jay
@Baud:
@satby:
Nitter does not allow contact with the poster, but there are other ways to contact them.
Unless you click on a Nitter post, you don’t get the comment thread, that’s a big plus, so you only read your curated sources.
There is no “pushback” on the Dead Bird Site to misinfo or hate, Felon Musk, Illegal Immigrant #1 Crime Lord, Fentanyl Smuggler, Pet Eater has made sure of that. The Dead Bird Site has become the #1 hate and disinfo site on the web, out stripping the Book of Faces by a huge margin.
“Community Notes” is a joke.
Princess
Please, someone remind me of the hard-hitting interviews with unfriendly or skeptical outfits that Trump did. Oh, the Black Journalists interview? The one where one of the three interviewers was making a better case for him than he could make? The one he walked out of after 25 minutes?
Aussie Sheila
@Chet Murthy:
Well they won’t . The US $ is the reserve currency of the world, hence its ability to run eye watering deficits.
However US ‘soft power’ is important and it has been deflating since the ‘glorious war’ against Iraq and the peasant tribes of Afghanistan in the early 21st C.
What is left is sullen and fearful acquiescence in an increasingly unstable global network of US military might plus out of control fascist social media moguls together with an ungovernable US polity.
What can’t continue, won’t.
Baud
@Princess:
Q: Who won the 2020 election?
A: I’m not going to answer that.
Q: OK, moving on…
TBone
Dedicated to the The Dread Pirate Heather! 🎶
https://youtu.be/D295vdVGJu4
The Thin Black Duke
@Princess: If Harris wins the election, the MSM will never forgive her, so the coverage of the Harris/Walz administration is going to be relentlessly negative, and we need to be ready for that.
Aussie Sheila
@Baud:
Heh! Exactly.
Princess
@The Thin Black Duke: I think that would be true anyway. They work for big capital and promote its interests over everything else. We definitely need to have her back. But there’s only so much we can do.
One thing with the collapse of news media is that the legacy outlets can’t absorb all the good journalists out there looking for work. So they are probably finding all kinds of niches in alternative media.
Princess
The nerve of Politico, whose boss was recently accused of telling his workers they need to pray for a Trump victory, insisting they deserve an interview with MVP.
Also too — I keep hearing that this or that election loss will cause the GOp to recalibrate. I don’t believe it. Even if Donald loses, if they take the senate, they’ll use that to avoid a reckoning. The people who most want a reckoning in the party are too chickenshit to demand one.
Chet Murthy
Yes, I also don’t believe the G(r)OP will rethink. They didn’t after R-money”s loss in 2012, they just got worse. The CA G(r)OP hasn’t rethought, and they’ve been losing elections for years and years. And their Base, who control who wins nominations (b/c they’re a majority of the Party’s voters) aren’t gonna change just b/c they lose elections: they are the way they are because of their belief in white supremacy, not because of some desire to win elections. Until those fuckers start dying off, the G(r)OP isn’t gonna be changing.
And I don’t see them changing for another reason: even if they lose next month, it’ll be by a few percentage points. Nobody in the Base is gonna look at that and see a reason to change: they’ll see a reason to try harder next time, to suppress our voters harder next time, to cheat harder next time.
They’re gonna get worse, not better. Worse.
Baud
@Chet Murthy:
Right. They won’t change for one election result. They need to experience sustained losses. That’s a long game that our side had not had the patience for.
Ken
News has turned into PowerPoint briefings. Meanwhile, at least where I word, PowerPoint briefings have turned into dense masses of text in small font with ten or more paragraph-length “bullets” per slide. A curious reversal.
Baud
@Ken:
I see what you did there.
Aussie Sheila
@Princess:
The GOP don’t need a ‘reckoning’, they need a complete smashing at the ballot box, and they need to be facing a strong, confident, loud and partisan Democratic Party in every nook and cranny of the polity across the country.
Relentlessly.
Without ceasing.
Never letting up, never giving ground.
No vote not sought, no vote forgotten.
The GOP needs to undergo what defeated nations have undergone, without the death rate, obviously.
David 🐝KHive🐝 Koch
We haven’t had a good ole hard-hitting interview since Muhammad Ali knocked out George Plimpton in the 3rd round.
brantl
@anitamargarita: Beat me to it, or modern media are illiterate. Whocouldaknowed?
Chet Murthy
@Aussie Sheila: Factio Republicanem delenda est.
Aussie Sheila
@Chet Murthy:
To repeat the point. If they get worse, their opposition has to get more and more aggressive. Enough already! I know the US is a structural minority polity, but there are many more Dems than magats.
Rub their faces in it. Make their lives a social and political misery.
Just. Don’t. Give. An. Inch.
Aussie Sheila
@Chet Murthy:
Yes. Always and in all ways.
If the oppo Party here did what the GOP has done to the Dems in the last decade and a half, they would be lucky to be alive and standing. Believe me.
Princess
@Aussie Sheila: For sure, but while that has happened in many states (Illinois, California) it hasn’t happened at a national level and probably can’t. If Donald loses, they will have lost four of the last five elections. They’ll have lost with squishes like McCAin and Romney, and with fascists like Trump. The direction to go in won’t be obvious. They’ll probably try for a less senile populist type, trying to pull a 2016 again. My bet is Tucker Carlson or someone of that ilk. But I’m getting ahead of myself. Should be focusing on 2024. One more month.
Princess
@Aussie Sheila: The reckoning is internal and what happens after they lose, if they do.
It would probably take losing Texas for them to get really scared. Even beating Cruz would be an eye opener for them.
We need to be careful too because the blue wall isn’t going to hold because of population decline in the north. We need to keep hammering at FL and TX along with our other southern targets.
Ken
@Baud: I wish I could claim credit, but it was a typo I didn’t notice until the edit window closed. But it does work, I guess.
Aussie Sheila
@Princess:
Agree with the strategy of following where the people and votes are. Populations, industries and politics changes with time and the internal economy.
However wherever the people are, the Dems need to be there. Whether they win or not at an election. The ALP fields candidates in every seat in every State, Federal or local election. No matter how low their electoral chances in any particular seat. The Dem Party simply has to act like a disciplined Party and show up everywhere and anywhere there is an election, no matter how hopeless it seems at first.
The GOP isn’t fit to be treated like a normal Party in a democratic polity. The Dems should make that clear every day in every way. The GOP is the most dangerous political formation in the advanced industrial world.
Bar none.
satby
@Jay: disagree.
satby
@The Thin Black Duke: exactly.
Chris
The business world hasn’t thought any Democrat was “serious” since Grover Cleveland. It isn’t even about their policies; no matter how much Carter and Clinton deregulated or cut taxes, they were treated with exactly the same contempt as Bolshie agitators that the more radical presidents were met with. It’s pure tribal affiliation. The GOP is rich people’s own personal country club, full stop.
Chris
@David 🐝KHive🐝 Koch:
I want to know if she prefers Star Wars or Star Trek.
(Yeah, I know, all the whippersnappers are more interested in her position on DC versus Marvel. What can I say, I’m old).
Chris
@Baud:
A sizable portion of liberals are convinced that the NYT-led media is their last window into a world of principled objective fact-based reporting, which may not always get it right, but is at least trying to tell the truth rather than trying to sell a particular ideological line.
Therefore, the more the NYT-led media slam their favorite politicians, the more they cling to it, because it just shows that that media isn’t just telling them what they want to hear, and that they’re good citizens for listening to it rather than one that tells them what they want to hear.
Chris
@Chet Murthy:
All these countries have their own fascist movements working hard to take over.
That’s part of what makes the current era so terrifying. In the Dubya era, it at least was clear that it was specifically the U.S. going off the rails – in most countries, including many of those whose governments ended up endorsing the invasion, most people were perfectly aware that the U.S. had officially lost it. The Trump era, on the other hand? Sure, even the other fascists point and laugh at Trump behind his back because he’s such a pathetic and mockable human being, but they don’t really substantively disagree on anything. The same tide is rising all over the place.
Smiling Happy Guy (aka boatboy_srq)
Emphasis added. Spelling is original.
Equine references (particularly when discussing women) are generally rude to the point of duelling offense. One more reason for Harris to avoid mainstream journalism in general and Politico in particular.
Chris Johnson
@Smiling Happy Guy (aka boatboy_srq): I’m calling incompetence. It’d be such a dumb insult. The phrase is ‘NIGH-on’ and the kindest explanation isn’t stupidity, but autocorrect and lack of proofreading.
And if you’re such a hotshot big deal media God, shouldn’t you be able to catch such a stupid-looking blunder?
opiejeanne
@satby: The crossword and several other games can be played without a subscription, but they’re older crosswords, they only post 3 per week, and don’t include the Sunday monster.
karen marie
@anitamargarita: Yet the motherfuckers want people to believe they are “serious media.” Fuck that noise.
noncarborundum
@Lynn Dee:
Politoco is not a serious media outlet. They’ve made it clear with this tweet that they’re just horsing around.
Mike in Pasadena
News media outlets complaining about Harris not choosing to interview with them is the mewling of babies.
Last night’s thread about the $60 figurines of the ear grazing made me think how we must all be gratful that Jesus trump had to almost die for our sins.
Gretchen
@Baud: This is the best distillation of the situation I’ve seen yet. Why won’t she take a “tough” interview with us asking her what she thinks of the latest dumb thing Trump said about her? Why is she only doing these softball interviews with people like Call Her Daddy who only ask her dumb questions like what are you going to do about student loans and the cost of housing?