Trump brought his hate rally to Colorado and I find myself very angry about it. Nothing he says is true, yet there were 10K cheering him and Stephen Miller as they villainize everyone. Including children. Something about it being in my home state, directed at my neighbors that has me seething. I’m sorry to all of you in swing states that he visits regularly. Fuck him.
Kyle Clark brings the truth bombs…even after Boebert and Trump threatened his life.
Can’t wait for this monster to be gone for good so he can golf full-time between criminal trials.
Open thread
TaMara
Also, meet me here tomorrow for something much more fun. I promise.
NotMax
You just know he had to be talked out of holding his liefest in Rifle.
//
TaMara
Fresh off of talking a suicidal woman off a bridge, Jon Bon Jovi supporting our VP:
EngineerScotty
For some reason, Aurora, CO–the same place where they had the movie theater shooting way back when (and the killer, James Eagen Holmes, was no immigrant) has been portrayed in right-wing media as “taken over” by Venezuelan street gangs, a claim that is just as preposterous as the numerous claims that my hometown of Portland was burned down in the 2020 riots.
Jackie
@TaMara: WHOA!
dmsilev
I feel your pain. Trump is coming here to California tomorrow to hold another rally. In Coachella of all places. Nobody quite knows why.
Trivia Man
@dmsilev: He likes crowds and wants to pad his raw vote total to feed the STEAL narrative. What he doesn’t understand is why his managers are letting him – they want to shore up the vulnerable red seat congresscritters to try and keep the house. We know he couldn’t give a rat’s ass how any other race comes out, but the people behind him do.
hitchhiker
My new NP is giving me grief about refilling my xanax Rx … which I, a non-drinker, have used very occasionally (like, maybe every other month, take one low-dose pill) when the world seems like more than I can manage and none of my normal self-calming techniques are working.
My former doc would give me 10 pills, and I would feel better just knowing they were there, safe in my medicine cabinet, for days like, you know, November 8, 2016. Or the time my daughter had to have her pre-term twins by emergency c-section on January 6, 2021 because her pre-eclampsia had gone berserk.
This habit of keeping a stash of xanax began when mr h broke his neck in 2001, and for all the years since then, I have been a very good hitchhiker and never abused that drug. I know better. And I generally like being alert very much.
So I am PISSED that she’s making me — a perfectly stable 72-yr-old woman — have an office appointment so we can discuss whether or not she writes the Rx.
And it does not help matters that it took me 3 phone calls and 4 messages in my online “profile” to get this appointment made, or that it is 2 weeks away. Shit, I’m gonna need a xanax just to have this conversation and be civil about it at this rate.
Sorry, but you did say open thread. Buck me up!
Gloria DryGarden
I just put the cpr article link on the last thread, just minutes ago.
Cranky about it. And right off the giant road to our airport on the old ute burial grounds. Messing up traffic for people with important travel plans.
Gloria DryGarden
Osborn thermometer got filled, yay!!
only $400 bucks left for the Nevada four directions to fill. Excited.
TaMara
@hitchhiker: Do what you need to do to get that scrip. But then it’s time to fire the physician and find one who treats you with respect.
Don’t get me started on having to fire my optometrist when my vision went sideways fast, and he just blew it off. It was not normal and now I have a Doc who addressing the issue properly.
WaterGirl
@hitchhiker: I’m sorry. It’s maddening and insulting.
Maybe it’s time to find a new new NP.
Melancholy Jaques
@EngineerScotty:
That was followed by about a week of preposterous social media claims that the Hells Angels were going there to battle with the supposed Venezuelan gangs. These were accompanied by videos and photos of great numbers of motorcyclists from various years and several different countries, none of whom were in or headed toward Colorado.
Gloria DryGarden
@hitchhiker: I’m really sorry. Sometimes kava tincture helps, and GABA, an amino at the vitamin shop. Butter is high in gaba.
May this next two weeks go well for you. And may your new np get on the page with you. These are such anxious times.
Melancholy Jaques
@dmsilev:
Because the political media will call it a bold move and cover the event like it’s 2016 again.
HumboldtBlue
Josh Hawley and the weird punter for the Chiefs.
NotMax
For the second time made the eggplant-walnut-ginger* paté this afternoon which person whose nym I’ve forgotten pointed to the recipe for a while back.
This time decided on the spur of the moment to brighten it up a skootch by adding a tiny spritz of lemon juice. Planning to give half to people I’ll be seeing tomorrow so tripled the amounts in the original to ensure having enough. Recipe calls for olive oil** but regular old vegetable oil does just fine.
*Have a squeeze bottle of ground ginger paste in place of fresh; works great, without all that tedious peeling and scraping.
**Highly overrated in my book, especially since so much of what’s sold nowadays is adulterated unless one wants to take out a mortgage to buy it. So little use for it chez NotMax that it goes rancid before I can use it up.
prostratedragon
@dmsilev:
Chasing crowds in places where antiMAGA performers have had big ones? In other words, egotripping. The best explanation I’ve heard for the MSG rally (in addition to tbe 1939 Nazi rally that his father might have attended), and Coachella would qualify.
OId Man Shadow
He’s not going away until he dies or JD Vance stabs him and takes his place on the Imperial Throne.
And whatever the fuck he’s unleashed… the ugliness, the misogyny, the racism, the shit he’s given the deplorables among us permission to unleash on innocent people… that’s not going away anytime soon either. Really, it’s never gone away… this is just the newest incarnation of the KKK but they no longer hide their faces. They don’t have to.
Yarrow
@hitchhiker: A friend of mine takes Xanax. She has to have an in person appointment from time to time to get her prescription filled. The government has really cracked down on doctors’ ability to fill those kinds of prescriptions. It may be that your doctor is required to see you in person at this point to be able to fill the prescription. Or maybe they’re not a good doctor and just being a pain. Either way, if you can show that you take it occasionally and it’s part of your toolkit to keep yourself stable, you should be able to get it filled. Sorry it’s not as easy as it should be.
Gloria DryGarden
@NotMax: yeah, but Rifle is 4 1/2 hours from Denver. And what’s her face moved away, so that she could change districts.
I need to set up my dart board, get some cranky feelings out. Track.
Gloria DryGarden
@prostratedragon: supporting GOTV for republican seats, trying to keep congress. TBone commented w an article/ source about it last night.
Gloria DryGarden
https://www.npr.org/2024/10/11/nx-s1-5147400/donald-trump-aurora-colorado-rally
Grrrr
Article is a tad too cheery and upbeat.
JCJ
@hitchhiker: I agree with the suggestion of a new NP if possible. Your post reminded me of a patient many years ago who asked me for a prescription for Valium (diazepam). I said OK, but I would usually prescribe Ativan (lorazepam) or Xanax (alprazolam). She said she had used Valium in the past with good results. Then she said she had asked her primary care physician for Valium and he had refused. I gave her a prescription for maybe 20 tablets. I saw her a year later and asked if the medication had helped. She said that she had not taken any, because every time she felt anxiety coming on she knew that the Valium would help if the feeling worsened, but then that thought alone helped her relax.
dmsilev
@Gloria DryGarden: Maybe. But for California, you’d think he’d be headed for some of the swing districts in Orange County or similar. God knows a place like Huntington Beach would roll out the red carpet for him. Not complaining, mind you, just puzzled.
VFX Lurker
I voted earlier this week (so satisfying voting for Harris-Walz!), and I am writing more Postcards to Voters tonight.
First, thank you for the good tip on the ginger paste! That sounds like something useful to have in my fridge.
Second, I’m buying small bottles of California Olive Ranch 100% California olive oil for myself right now. I figure it contains what it says on the label, plus I live in California, so it’s local.
My parents buy Kirkland Extra-Virgin Olive Oil from Costco. I trust the Costco brand for quality and value, but I’m in your position — there’s no way I can use up that much olive oil before it goes bad.
eclare
@hitchhiker:
I hope you get your refill at your appt. Maybe after that look for another NP? Seems like it took a lot of effort on your part to get this appt.
hitchhiker
@Yarrow: Thanks, that helps.
I’ll keep it in mind when i talk to her … maybe she’s just trying to follow rules and not intending to treat me like I’m a closet pill head with an agenda.
I knew when we moved to this island that certain things would get more time-consuming, and that visiting various doctors & assorted healthcare personnel would be among them. It just hadn’t occurred to me that this thing which has been simple for decades would suddenly become impossible at just the wrong time.
OTOH, if she’s resistant for no apparent reason, she’s fired.
eclare
@TaMara:
Whoa! Anything goes wrong with your vision, you want to address that pronto!
Years ago, a relative started having blurry vision in an eye, and she waited a few days to see about it. I can’t remember the cause, but she lost vision in that eye.
JCJ
@hitchhiker: I wrote an earlier reply that got eaten. Perhaps because I mentioned specific medications of the class you asked the NP to prescribe. I once had an older patient ask for one of these meds (benz0s). She then said she had asked a primary care physician for the same prescription but he had refused. I prescribed a modest number of this medication. When I saw her a year later I asked if it had helped. She said yes even though she had not taken any – she said if she began to feel anxiety she would just think that she could take the medication in case the problem worsened. This would allow her to relax and not have her anxiety build up as it had before.
Another commenter mentioned state laws. Prescriptions are monitored in some states. I have young colleagues who seem afraid to prescribe medications that are frequently needed when treating cancer with radiation – the degree of mucositis patients get when treating head and neck cancers nearly always necessitate some pain medications. It does not help that the electronic record system defaults to adding a prescription for Narcan unless it is removed.
schrodingers_cat
Hating on immigrants is what got Trump to where he is now. We will see how many people have an appetite for chaos that he will unleash.
schrodingers_cat
Hating on immigrants is what got Trump to where he is now. We will see how many people have an appetite for chaos that he will unleash
Also, hating on immigrants and celebrating them are both as American as apple pie.
Gloria DryGarden
@dmsilev: the article I linked right above talks about people coming from hours away, and waiting overnight for this rally. So maybe oodles of rich Orange County denizens will be driving out to coachella. I hope the weather is inclement.
(Someone kindly said I was not mean. But there’s a time and a place to have mean thoughts.) Grrr
Gloria DryGarden
@Gloria DryGarden: the article shows the enlarged poster sized photos of Latino- appearing men in orange jumpsuits. The level of racist hate….
taking deep breaths
Kent
@Gloria DryGarden: And a shitload of them are going to be voting for Trump anyway.
Sigh…
theturtlemoves
@EngineerScotty:
Glad to hear I won’t have to take the Subaru through a burnt out wasteland to get to Moda on Monday for the Maiden concert.
prostratedragon
From Adam Gopnik in The New Yorker: “The Forgotten History of Hitler’s Establishment Enablers”
Reviews a history book that recounts how, aided by eerily familiar circumstances, conventional conservative German politicians deftly ensured the empowerment of “someone who could never claim a majority in an actual election and whom the entire conservative political class regarded as a chaotic clown with a violent following.”
The principal actors were “two pillars of respectable conservative Germany, General Kurt von Schleicher [an inside man] and the right-wing media magnate Alfred Hugenberg [an outside man].” Though we’ve got the second type all right, many candidates for the inside role have dropped out of the MAGA movement, a plus for our side. The election rule machinations we’re suffering through now could be an attempt to empower an inside crew using body english.
The leading players:
One of the key special circumstances that twisted the results of their effort;
anitamargarita
I lived in the west Denver burbs for a bit in the 2010s. My work frequently took me to Aurora, which seemed to be a hotbed of diversity, great little strip mall ethnic restaurants, a Russian sauna, festivals that celebrated all the people the city had welcomed. My sister had steady work as an ESL instructor, mostly to African and Middle-Eastern students. If I felt the desire to move back to Colorado, Aurora is where I’d go. Like you, I get so angry to see the hatred that tfg is trying to stir up.
Chet Murthy
@anitamargarita: At LG&M today I learned that Aurora has an H-Mart! Gotta be a diverse place to support one of those palaces of East Asian food!
Gvg
@hitchhiker: I ran into a emergency room doctor who was just lying about what the state regulations were in giving out a prescription for paxlovid. I had to get it the next day from my regular doctor. Everyone was puzzled as to why. But on the other hand when my sister the doctor was considering buying a practice, she passed on one because the last couple of docs who had owned it had been busted for pill pushing and prescribing to anyone. She said anyone who practiced there would be investigated all the time and under constant pressure from patients who were used to easy narcotics. Places get a reputation. So something could be going on that you do know about. That still might mean it’s better to find someplace else though.
Captain C
@Trivia Man:
They want to keep their paychecks and expense accounts and at this point don’t care if he wins since he’s too much of a pain to deal with, perhaps
ETA: Kind of misread that; and yes, he is too dumb and focused on his own desires to notice something like that by his handlers.
mrmoshpotato
@theturtlemoves: Up the irons!
Ruckus
@dmsilev:
The Junior High auditorium is small enough that it won’t look like no one showed up.
Chet Murthy
@Gvg: I’ve read about a number of cases of doctors (in the US) refusing to prescribe paxlovid to covid patients. It’s not an issue of narcotics (obvs). I think it’s just doctors thinking they need to ration the stuff, or perhaps putting themselves in the position of God: “you’re not sick enough to need it.” Shit like that.
Gotta say, any doctor refuses to prescribe it, they’re gonna get told right away I’m gonna be retaining counsel and suing their ass for malpractice and if I get Long Covid they’ll be ruined, I’ll send ’em to the poorhouse, NOW SIGN THE GODDAMN SCRIP.
But also, it’s worth each of us asking our doctor NOW (that is to say, beforehand) whether they’ll prescribe paxlovid, and under what conditions, so we can decide whether to find a different doctor. My doc was “no problem, you don’t need to come in or anything, we can prescribe over the phone”. I asked him about a course of Pax that I could take while traveling, and he was “sure, I’ll write that scrip”. So some doctors are just fine.
But I know a sibling had trouble getting Pax while traveling to VA, and ….. yeah, I wasn’t happy about that.
eclare
@Chet Murthy:
I just signed up to get my flu and covid shots next Friday. Fingers crossed, haven’t gotten covid yet. Even if it’s a matter of time, I want to put it off as long as possible.
Chet Murthy
@eclare: Same page. I haven’t got it yet, and I’d like to delay as long as possible. I got both a couple of weeks ago. And I continue to wear a P100 respirator everywhere practical, including while lifting weights. I don’t wear it in restaurants and bars of course, but everywhere in public transit and stores.
NotMax
@Chet Murthy
Mom’s town (population ~10,000) has an H Mart. Keep meaning to check it out when visiting and always forget.
About a mile down the road, in a neighboring town, there’s a J Mart.
;)
eclare
@Chet Murthy:
I’m the same way with a mask, I wear one out in public unless I’m at a restaurant, which I only go to a couple times a month. I need to stock up on more, I don’t see that habit changing, maybe ever.
anitamargarita
@Chet Murthy: really good Asian food in Aurora. I used to plan my work route around going to Masala’s for lunch buffet every Friday. And order extra everything for the weekend.
eclare
@NotMax:
I thought your mom lived in NYC?
Jay
@Chet Murthy:
T and I got boosters in August, (surgery upcoming), then she went out to Alberta to visit parents friends. Masks and the usual protocols.
Brought Covid back from eating and drinking in the Airport in Edmonton while waiting for her flight.
Mild cases, but positive tests, and in a 1 BDR, no quarantine, so I got it too.
Chet Murthy
@eclare: In case you’re in the market, I can recommend this one: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B013SIIBME?ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_fed_asin_title
it’s got replaceable filters, and the straps can also be replaced. When the straps got stretched-out too much (from use) I went to a fabric store, bought some elastic, and that worked a treat. It’s a P100 respirator. The only hitch is that it’s got an exhale valve, so when you breathe out, it doesn’t filter your breath. But I don’t care, b/c nobody else is wearing a mask, so why should I bother? And that means it’s much easier to wear e.g. when I lift weights.
I used one for a year, replaced the filters once, then ….well, I dropped it while coming back from a shopping trip, so I had to buy a replacement. But they last a -long- time.
Ruckus
@hitchhiker:
Different issue but similar concept.
Migraines.
I’ve used zolmitriptan for about 25 years, it works, and nothing else has. But every so often the VA gives me crap about how much I use because migraines are not on any kind of schedule, likely similar to your issue. Sometimes none in a month, sometimes an unfair number.
Jay
@eclare:
We use a cloth mask, bamboo fabric, with a washable KN 95 insert. The insert is good for about 15 washes. The mask has a chin wire, a nose wire, (copper), behind the head elastics, gives a good tight fit. I have about 15 of the masks, about 40 of the filters, all made by a local company that until covid, did high end fashion.
eclare
@Chet Murthy:
Thanks, I’ll look into those!
Yeah, I have N95’s with an exhale valve. Same attitude here, no one else is masked…
Dangerman
@dmsilev: Coachella! His crowds will be bigger than Taylor Swifts. I have no idea if she has played Coachella which I guess means he wouldn’t be lying for once.
eclare
@Dangerman:
Hahaha, I don’t think Taylor has played Coachella. If she has it was years ago, not in this Era.
I just googled, she has never played Coachella.
hitchhiker
@JCJ:
This is exactly how it goes for me. I just want to know it’s there. I had an Rx for 10 pills, (0.25 mg) that lasted 18 months, during which time all 3 of my grandkids were born and went thru the usual Year One stresses, during the trying-to-get-vaccinated period of covid.
And right now, when I think of Nov 5th, my head goes right to that empty spot on the shelf. I’m not asking for much. I just want to know it’s there. I don’t drink, and I sure don’t want to experiment with gummies or whatever, so for me this is it.
Jay
@eclare:
In the beginning, I used to get verclempt about people wearing masks with an exhale valve,
now,
I don’t care.
Chet Murthy
@Jay: i take it as a point of pride to use a mask with an exhale valve: ” if you fuckers can’t be bothered to do the least thing to protect yourselves, I’m not going to do it for you”
eclare
@Jay:
Same here, when the hospitals were so overloaded. But they aren’t now.
Jay
@Chet Murthy:
Yeah, when covid hit, I was working retail.
I wore a mask before it was policy to protect others.
Now I wear a mask to protect me and mine.
Everybody else can FOAD.
NotMax
@eclare
Just across the border, in Nassau county.
The J Mart mentioned is in Queens.
Jay
@eclare:
In BC 1:18 people have covid. Even with out covid, our ER’s and hospitals are overwhelmed. It’s taken 3 years now for T’s cancer to actually have a treatment plan and dates.
Chet Murthy
@NotMax: i went to the H Mart in San Francisco a few days ago, got some sugar kiss cantaloupes. Really sweet and really tasty. If it weren’t such a hike to go there I’d go back and get some more.
eclare
@Jay:
That is awful, and covid made it worse.
Gloria DryGarden
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-aurora-colorado-venezuelan-gang-claims/
Mike S. (Now with a Democratic Congressperson!)
We’re back? I hope.
Another Scott
OT – Yay! We’re back. (I was getting a 521 error earlier.)
Cheers,
Scott.
TBone
🎶🖤
https://youtu.be/9VyFICGlOkg
TS
@Mike S. (Now with a Democratic Congressperson!):
I was having withdrawal symptoms
eclare
Yay!
danielx
Thought there was another hosting disaster.
TBone
Inspirational story of the morning:
https://crooksandliars.com/2024/10/tornado-destroys-building-maga-sheriff-who
eclare
@TBone:
So ETTD applies to the sons, too…
Honus
“Trump brought his hate rally to Colorado and I find myself very angry about it. Nothing he says is true, yet there were 10K cheering him and Stephen Miller as they villainize everyone. Including children. Something about it being in my home state, directed at my neighbors that has me seething.“
I’m a 50 year resident of Charlottesville. Heather Heyer was killed right in front of the door to my office. I know exactly how you feel.
Another Scott
@TBone: I think “sworn in” is doing a lot of heavy lifting there*.
:-/
Cheers,
Scott.
—
* – as in, what does swearing an oath actually mean to TCFFG and Uday and Qusay??
artem1s
@dmsilev:
Money. He’s burnt out the sundown towns in swing states and is going to larger cities and those that have larger, more well heeled populations. There are probably benefactors in these cities paying for the venues too. I don’t see him wanting to spend the money otherwise. Would be a good question for the press to be asking – I crack myself up sometimes. More press will be present as well, although I’m not sure whether that gets him more donations or less. I suppose as long as Fux News is selectively editing and sanewashing for him the net $ return may be worth it. It hardly matters anymore what does. Maybe he’s even getting a portion of the ad buys which some outlets may be willing to give him. They are certainly going to be broadcasting ever fucking one given that there is a better than even chance he may finally stroke out live on TV.
It wouldn’t surprise me if he’s saving some really outrageous mike drop moment for a week out or even election night. It’s going to be about grabbing as much money as possible and then running to the nearest place that doesn’t have extradition now. I think he’s planning on being out of the country on election night mostly because he thinks everyone will expect him to hold court and rage Xhit at MAL all night.
Another Scott
@artem1s: I’ve always been kind of surprised that he was having events in tiny towns and tiny venues given that he demands huge crowds. He’ll get a bigger crowd in California than he will in North Dakota.
DesertSun.com:
He’ll be late.
Old, crabby, out of shape retirees will be hanging around for 12 hours, probably will have been up for 15 hours, before the thing even starts.
But Donold will have his big crowd. Yay!!11
:-/
H-W should have events at the Los Angeles Coliseum and Berkeley’s California Memorial Stadium and fill them up to needle him. ;-)
Cheers,
Scott.
Starfish
@TaMara: That’s great. I have not been able to see properly out of my left eye for years. This year, I had an optometrist explain why and just knowing why was comforting.
Gloria DryGarden
@TS: I was trying to load a comment, when the server went down.
Enhanced Voting Techniques
@prostratedragon: The better parallel between Germany of the ’20 and today is picture Kaiser William the III as Trump (both well born, blond haired useless idiots who cosplayed as military heroes) and Hitler as JD Vance.
Ironcity
@artem1s: Press will be present as well as influencers and similar pseudo press/press adjacent.
I can live with seeing the recording if he strokes out rather than hanging on every deranged second. TCFG is not stupid, he has a basket of psychological things running around in his head that he is just incapable of getting around. His handlers go for smaller/different/swing state venues because they are more filled (smaller), haven’t been “harvested” yet (different) and are not as likely to get as much attention from swing state press/voters (other states). He will do this up to election day, getting as much high profile attention as possible by loosing some kind of BS at 36-48 hour intervals as well as specific disinformation that if true would get normal people to vote TCFG. Tactically
I think MAL is the likely election day terminal venue. He can keep his clapped out 757 at PBI for a quick get away as needed. Rage X ing (it isn’t Tweet anymore?) can be done from any convenient gold throne. Since the MAGAts lawyers will be doing everything possible to make the election go his way he only needs to be available to make perfect phone calls to those who may be influenceable with flattery/threats. Get your popcorn supplies early.
TooTallTom
@dmsilev:
Trump knows he can’t win the election fairly. So this is about keeping the House, so that the House can screw with the Electoral College results.
No One You Know
@hitchhiker: I am enduring a similar experience, and have been rationing my needs for nearly half my life while bouncing around private insurance and no insurance. I’m really sorry to hear you and I hope this provider is just a conscientious person trying to do the right thing.
There’s not a lot of research on the effects of ageing and behavioral health that’s also informed by women’s needs (which just adds another layer, if you’re a woman). Maybe it’s that? I wonder how much experience providers have about how disorders age in the people who have them. Sending a hug (if wanted).
emjayay
@NotMax: There is no such thing as “regular old vegetable oil.” It’s from some specific plant. Wesson oil is soy oil, one of the cheapest oils. Cottonseed oil may be cheaper. Unlike the more neutral oils, olive oil contributes a distinctive taste to the dish. And olive oil is highest in monosaturates so is the most heart healthy oil. A cheaper and taste-free oil with close to the same health benefits as olive oil is canola oil, which is really rapeseed oil but with a more acceptable name.
@NotMax:
BarcaChicago
@hitchhiker: Here is what I recommend: find a psychiatrist to write the prescription. NPs and MDs tend to be extremely cautious about benzodiazepines, while an actual psychiatrist will feel more comfortable providing the prescription. They can easily look up the dosage/refill rate and continue at the rate you describe. All psychiatrists do is prescribe psychotropic meds and they have knowledge and confidence about it that non-psych doctors do not have. Good luck! Signed, fellow anxiety sufferer with an active Xanax prescription from a psychiatrist :-)
Mary
@hitchhiker: I got rid of a doctor who wouldn’t listen to me. You deserve a better doctor who will listen to you with respect.