President Biden will make a formal apology tomorrow at the Gila River Indian Community in Arizona for atrocities carried out against Native American children in boarding schools supported by the federal government in the 19th and early 20th centuries.
https://t.co/p4qYZWswpT— ABC15 Arizona (@abc15) October 24, 2024
Joe Biden is a good man and a fine President. From the local Arizona news, “Biden to apologize for government support of brutal Indian boarding schools”:
President Joe Biden will make a formal apology on Friday for atrocities carried out against Native American children in boarding schools supported by the federal government in the 19th and early 20th centuries.
The formal acknowledgment of the U.S. government’s role in facilitating these schools — which often forcibly removed children from their homes and stripped them of their native heritage — will come during remarks the president is set to give at the Gila River Indian Community in Arizona.
Deb Haaland, secretary of the Department of Interior, told Scripps News the apology carries significant weight for many Native Americans like her who have a personal history with the boarding schools.
“I almost can’t put it into words what it will mean to me. My grandparents were taken away to boarding school, so I understand and have experienced how that terrible era affected my own family,” Haaland said.
“For so many years, it seemed like Indian Country was invisible. Folks looked at us as if we were living in the past. Now they recognize that, yes, we have whole, full communities who stayed intact and persevered through all of the terrible assimilation policies of this country. And it will be wonderful for folks across the country to feel that the president sees them and that he listened,” she added…
The apology is the first step in a series of recommendations laid out by the Department of the Interior. Other steps include establishing a national memorial, repatriating remains of children who never returned from the boarding schools and returning former boarding school lands to Indian tribes.
According to Grey Bull, significant federal funding for impacted communities is necessary to right these past wrongs.
“President Biden making an apology statement, I think it’s long overdue,” Grey Bull said. “It’s time for more than just acknowledgment. We need real funding and resources to help us initiate healing within our own communities.”
Haaland noted her department’s recommendations are steps toward making these communities whole again.
“Folks may not realize that when they split families apart and took children hundreds, sometimes thousands of miles away from their homes, some of those children never came back. Some of those children were never returned to their communities where they could live full lives or continue the culture and traditions of those communities. So, there is a lot with that we need to do,” she said.
Living in Arizona you are surrounded by the legacy of this evil shit. You can see the way it still impacts people today. It shouldn’t stop at just an apology, but it’s a start.
— Jean-Michel Connard ??? (@torriangray) October 24, 2024
My dad went to boarding school. I didn't know going into an interview with Sec. Haaland yesterday was going to result in me crying, but it did because, for the first time in history, a sitting U.S. president is set to apologize to Indigenous communities. https://t.co/Ara9nezCxu
— Shondiin Silversmith⁷ (@DiinSilversmith) October 24, 2024
… The apology, which President Joe Biden will deliver Friday when he speaks at the Gila River Crossing School on the Gila River Indian Community near Phoenix, comes three years after Interior Secretary Deb Haaland launched the first-ever investigation into Native American Boarding Schools.
The final boarding school report provided eight recommendations from the Department of Indian Affairs for the federal government that would support a path to healing for tribal communities.
At the top of that list was a call for the United States to acknowledge and apologize for its role in the federal Indian boarding school policies that have harmed — and continue to harm — Indigenous peoples across the country.
“The president is taking that to heart, and he plans on making an apology to Indian Country for the boarding school era,” Haaland said in an Oct. 23 interview with the Arizona Mirror…
“This is an incredibly suppressed history that so many people didn’t know about and now it’s seeing the light of day,” Haaland said. “I have to believe that people will heal from what we’ve been able to do, and certainly hearing from President Biden, who has been the best president for Indian Country in my lifetime, say that he’s sorry, it’s beyond words.”
Biden plans to visit Indian Country for the first time on Oct. 25, where he will issue that apology alongside Haaland at the Gila River Crossing School.
“Some of our elders who are boarding school survivors have been waiting all of their lives for this moment,” Gila River Indian Community Gov. Stephen Roe Lewis said in a statement to the Arizona Mirror.
“It’s going to be incredibly powerful and redemptive when the president issues this apology on Indian land,” he added. “If only for a moment on Friday, this will rise to the top and the most powerful person in the world, our president, is shining a light on this dark history that’s been hidden.”…
Read the whole article, which includes comments from many communities.
Yet another reason to vote, joyfully, for Harris / Walz… cuz we know damned well a second TFG administration will refuse to honor these commitments just as he’s refused to honor every other commitment he’s ever made.
Your daily reminder that if Harris and Walz win, Minnesota Lt. Governor Peggy Flanagan (White Earth Ojibwe) becomes the first Native American woman governor in U.S. history. pic.twitter.com/7ce6pzBdrA
— Lakota Man (@LakotaMan1) October 24, 2024
Won’t you please join me in thanking the Apache Nation for supporting Harris/Walz. ?? pic.twitter.com/OnPJT2SAe8
— Lakota Man (@LakotaMan1) October 22, 2024
arrieve
I am excited about Kamala Harris and glad she is the nominee. But I am so grateful that we had a man of such heart and integrity leading us through these last turbulent years.
RaflW
Oh, semi-randomly, I just now RSVP’d to go to a party Sunday morning for Tammy Baldwin. Monk’s Tony Shalhoub is the special guest!
rikyrah
The apology is long overdue 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
Jay
T is Metis. Sadly. I know more about T’s culture than she does, I can even speak some Michif.
My knowledge came from College level Indigenous Studies,
T’s lack of knowledge came from both her Great Grandparents and her Grandparents being subject to both residential and day schools.
Her parents spent all their lives “passing for white”.
The damage is not just cultural, it embedded abuse and addictions into the communities through generations, and still does. It normalized “othering”.
NotMax
Dolt 45 will milk the word “apology” dry.
SiubhanDuinne
@RaflW:
I am a lovely shade of green with envy! Tony Shalhoub is one of my faves. Please be prepared to report back — every detail, mind! — after the event.
KatKapCC
Very very glad to see this. He is a good man.
zhena gogolia
Great post, thanks!
Lyrebird
@arrieve: I can def. sign on to both! And I am so glad that Pres. Biden started from Day 1 knocking down past barriers, putting folks like Secy Haaland on his cabinet, nominating all those judges… Let’s give MVP as favorable a Congress as possible!
…
moment of silence in honor of those children wrested away from their communities and everyone else who was affected
…
mrmoshpotato
@RaflW: You mean Arthur from
Thir13en Ghosts. :)
lamh47
Charlamagne the God calling out CNN on their own network was NOT on my 2024 Bingo card.
Anderson Cooper thought he was getting the Charlamagne pre-MVP interview. CNN was looking for more “Black men don’t like Harris” stories. What he got was some in your face honesty…and then he started spinning “how dare you” energy and saying NOTHING!
ooooh Anderson Cooper…what’s it folks say about “hit dogs hollering”…ya whining AC…whining. Ya brought Charlamagne on and expected the MVP is not doing for Blacks stuff…but that’s not fully what ya got…so ya whining…
Yutsano
@SiubhanDuinne: This confirms it.
You are indeed Jane Austen reincarnated!
lamh47
@lamh47: Here is a shorter clip of Anderson…notice how comfortable Cooper is talking to Charlamagne in a way he doesn’t and likely wouldn’t talk to any of the GOP shills they have on CNN
Also, every time CNN had Scott Jennings on before and after (Jennings was just on Kaitlyn Collins show tonight, and GOP hack of the day on Abby Philips show as well) proving Charlamagne right what he said about CNN to Anderson Cooper…
mrmoshpotato
@lamh47: Sounds like CNN wants to jerk off to more empty Dump stages like 2015-16.
comrade scotts agenda of rage
@arrieve:
Best president of my lifetime. This report is simply another in a long list of reasons why.
That 3 minute clip with Cooper and Charlemagne is golden. The takeaway quote:
We should use that tag line always.
lamh47
@comrade scotts agenda of rage: OOOH….AC was gaslighting like crazy.
Charlamagne had him stuttering.
Like I said, CNN allows folks like Scott Jennings, just today, spew the worse fake azz shit just to pump up Chump.
Charlmagne was damn right.
lamh47
Van Jones, Leonard, now Stephen A Smith… Ya’ll…what is in the water? Reminds me of what happened after Obama won Iowa, and Black folk were like…whoa…wait a minute…he can win this…let’s get behind him… We’ll see if it last the next 12 days…
Ishiyama
@lamh47: I first noticed Charlamagne during the 2020 primaries. His attitude can be hard to take, but he is not ill-informed, within his own field. He’s not shy.
Sure Lurkalot
That CNN clip is golden. My source had a clip next to it of Dana Bash asking Harris what she thought about (guess what?) Trump saying she “turned black” so Anderson, one of your colleagues did bring up the question of her blackness in that way all these fuckers do…Trump says you blow bus drivers, what do you say Kamala?
Anderson is totally gobsmacked and there’s not one word I would remove from Charlemagne’s rant.
Here’s a Nitter link
https://nitter.poast.org/Acyn/status/1849617735262810387#m
comrade scotts agenda of rage
From an earlier thread, Mel Gibson on Harris:
https://nypost.com/2024/10/24/entertainment/mel-gibson-says-kamala-harris-has-the-iq-of-a-fence-post-reaffirms-support-for-trump/
Not that I give a shit about what he thinks about politics but dammit, I love “The Road Warrior”.
lamh47
@Ishiyama: I’ve known Charlamagne for a long time…he’s an idiot…and follows the trand more than anything else, and spread misinformation during POTUS elections cince HRC in 2020…but even a broke clock is correct twice a day
ETA: Charlmagne, Stephen A Smith, Van Jones are the type who wants to follow the “winning horse” and if they think a certain horse in running a “winning race” they will change their allegience towards the end if they can manage it so that they can say either “I knew … was a winner” or “I thought … had a chance, but I knew they would likely lose…”
nothing but bet-hedgers.
lamh47
Also, this I’m sure will surprise no one really…
cain
@lamh47: I remember Van Jones crying during election day or something when Obama won. Despite trashing him if I recall. Many black people called him out.
cain
@comrade scotts agenda of rage:
He’s a straight up anti-Jew man for ever. He was always a garbage human being and a crazy catholic. He does crazy cop really well because he really is crazy.
MinuteMan
I was watching the Three Pines police show set in Canada and they featured an Indian museum which had a painting of Mounties ripping screaming children away from distressed parents so they could be sent to comparable Canadian native boarding schools. They were not always a bit more civilized up north.
columbusqueen
@lamh47: Enought. Cancel his government contracts & deport that treasonous bastard.
Jay
@MinuteMan:
I got called in to do a small reno job, for a customer, (Indigenous Rights Lawyer) at the Tk’emlúps te Secwépemc First Nation offices, in the former Kamloops Indian Residential School. It now houses many of the band offices. The reno took a couple of days.
I told the customer to never call me again to work at that location, because the whole place had an evil aura. It reeked of misery, despair and abuse.
sxjames
Open Tread so…. my wife and I filled out our ballots this morning and drove them over to the ballot drop box (we are in Oregon so its vote by mail). Voted straight Democratic ticket – it was easy as all the state wide opposition candidates were MAGA or MAGA adjacent. Also voted yes on two ballot questions (independent commission to set state salaries, requirement for cannabis dealers to have a labor agreement). Anyways, two more votes banked for Harris/Waltz. :)
cain
@MinuteMan: That show was brilliant in talking about the atrocities done to the native peoples. Doc Ock was awesome.
cain
@sxjames: Go Oregonians!!
BTW, why the hell did the Speaker Johnson show up here ? Stumping for some loser.. Don’t know why he wasted his time here.
Jay
@cain:
Waiting for the next Atmospheric River to sweep in so he could do his Moses Cosplay?
West of the Rockies
@comrade scotts agenda of rage:
Mel Gibson has become a cranky, bigoted, misogynistic drunk. F him.
HumboldtBlue
Has SpaceX Done Anything NASA Hasn’t?
wjca
Just be glad. Better wasting time there than campaigning for someone who might squeek thru with his help.
It’s like TCFG wasting time (and energy, of which he doesn’t seem to have much) campaigning in California and in New York City. If we flip North Carolina, and win Pennsylvania and Georgia, due to his reduced attention to them — glad he came here instead.
VFX Lurker
When it comes to Mad Max, I prefer Tom Hardy’s haunted portrayal of the character in Fury Road.
Same brilliant director (George Miller), no weird Mel Gibson.
KatKapCC
@comrade scotts agenda of rage: Because to people like him, the notion that a Black person could be intelligent is as unbelievable as the notion that the sun is made of ice.
Baud
@arrieve:
Seconded.
Baud
I’m still waiting for my apology, Mr. Biden.
wjca
I’m confident that you will get around to delivering your apology to him eventually.
Chet Murthy
@lamh47: Yes! Yes! When Anderson said “oh, I don’t bring on surrogates who just blather talking-points they don’t even believe” I started shouting “Scott FUCKING Jennings, Anderson! Scott FUCKING Jennings!” I’m so glad Charlamagne got into it with him, though I don’t expect it to have any effect. At least -some- viewers got to see the goddamn truth!
Chet Murthy
@cain: I have no time for Van Jones. Maybe he cried when Biden won? Or when Biden&Harris were inaugurated? Sure, great, Van. You shilled for TCFG during his terms (I remember “tonight is the night Trump became President” — MY ASS, Van. MY ASS he became President that night). Sure, sometimes Van says the right things. But like all the other shitheads on the MSM (aside from a few on MSNBC), he doesn’t do it often enough that he’s trustworthy.
cain
@Chet Murthy:
He has major dick energy. Did not like him at all. Really inauthentic. I don’t care if he cries.
Apparently he cries a lot. But I believe you are right that he cried when Biden was elected. He apparently also got emotional when Biden withdrew.
eclare
So good to see Biden step up and apologize. He is such a good person.
mrmoshpotato
@HumboldtBlue: NASA hasn’t put a racist, apartheid-loving shitstain in charge.
mrmoshpotato
@HumboldtBlue: Dr. Tyson calling Melon Husk a lagging bitch. So good.
Chet Murthy
@mrmoshpotato: I hold no brief for Lone Kums. None at all. But it’s still fair to point out a few things:
(1) ULA/Boeing have been ….. horrifically bad, just a giant money sink, to the point that the US had to rely on Russian launches to supply the ISS, right? That was an -untenable- situation, and it was entirely the fault of our too-big-to-fail money-before-alles space/defense contractors. It was a giant embarrassment.
(2) SpaceX has demonstrated the ability to launch to orbit at scale, pretty reliably.
I hate Lone Kums and think he’s a national security threat. He needs to be separated from SpaceX and Starlink — made to divest completely — and soon. But that doesn’t change that SpaceX really did change the game when it came to Earth-orbit launches. Now, none of that means that SpaceX is doing something NASA was unable to do in the past. What it does mean (sadly) is that NASA is currently pretty much unable to do these things without SpaceX, b/c NASA’s other contractors are that incompetent and money-grubbing. SpaceX really does have us over a barrel.
The way out of this pickle is to force Lone Kums to divest.
EngineerScotty
@lamh47:
If bandwagon-jumpers like Van Jones and SAS are now jumping on the Harris bandwagon…. I think that’s a good thing, even if their value-add is PROBABLY not huge?
Lots of bros watch these guys, so if they are dumping Trump, and if Trump is starting to get that loser stench…. then I welcome them to join the bus, even if they might have to stand because there’s no room.
Chet Murthy
@lamh47: Oh, interesting! Thank you for this insight! I don’t know Charlamagne at all: I don’t watch TV news much (get my news by reading) and so I only know about these guys when one of them does something egregious (like Van Jones’ craven pandering on the night of Trump’s first address to a joint session of Congress). Well (as you and @EngineerScotty: ) say, if this is a sign that these guy-influencers are jumping on the bandwagon, that’s good!
Enhanced Voting Techniques
@comrade scotts agenda of rage: Gibson is a homophobic piece of shit, he belongs with the Trump and the rest of the white trash.
Chet Murthy
@comrade scotts agenda of rage: @Enhanced Voting Techniques: In _The Fountainhead_, the art critic (IIRC) Ellsworth Toohey says that you should never learn about the real people behind the art you admire, b/c what if they turn out to be a child molester? I got to experience that first-hand, when Woody Allen …. turned out to be that. So I guess I gave up on knowing the artist, and that helps to make it tolerable to watch Gibson’s earlier films. I have to say though, I haven’t watched any of his films in many years, b/c when I think about it, I remember he’s a piece of shit, and all of a sudden the desire goes away. I feel somewhat the same way about Clapton and Van Morrison. Which I regret, b/c I really did like their music. But every time their stuff comes up on my random jukebox, there’s a decent chance I’ll fast-forward past it. B/c I’m reminded of their shittiness, and it really takes away from the pleasure of listening to the music.
Toohey was so right about that. I guess it’s maybe the one and only thing in Ayn Rand’s writing that actually had a ring of truth: everything else was just such bullshit.
Tony Jay
@Chet Murthy:
That’s pretty much where I am on the issue. If I’m going to enjoy a piece of art of almost any genre I have to be able to drop out of the now and let the artist take me there. That degree of comfortable trust just isn’t possible when I know the artist is a nasty piece of work.
It’s different when the artist is dead, or when the artist’s fall to the dark side can be dated to after its creation. Then the art stands or falls on its own merits. Easier in genres where the scumbag isn’t themselves part of the art. I can enjoy Harry Potter just fine and Gaiman’s work lives on, but even if I liked the work of John Wayne or Mel Gibson I’d find it harder seeing past their faces.
There are quite a few shows I won’t watch over here in the UK because of who is on them. The period 2015-2019 was a revealing one for certain British ‘celebrities’, and when they told me loud and clear that they were venal, lying shitbags with the ethics of sewer effluent I believed them.
A woman from anywhere (formerly Mohagan)
@lamh47: and Anderson didn’t let the woman say anything. she tried several times and Anderson just kept talking. Ugh.
Chet Murthy
@Tony Jay: Woody Allen used to be one of my favorite directors. I -loved- _Purple Rose of Cairo_. But I haven’t watched it since ….. 1990 (or so). B/c in 1992 I learned about his pedophilia. Maybe once he’s passed, I’ll try again. Maybe once Polanski has passed, I’ll try to watch _Chinatown_, and _Frantic_, and his movie about The Dreyfus Affair. Sigh. It really ruins it, being constantly reminded that you’re watching something made by a despicable human being.
Tony Jay
@Chet Murthy:
Exactly. It’s somehow even worse when the scummy things they’ve done are whitewashed and ignored by an Establishment eager to continue profiteering from them.
Chet Murthy
@Tony Jay: I remember when some high-and-mighty MSM interviewed Allen and his wife: I wasn’t fooled, and it doesn’t matter to me that she’s “all grown up now”. And I read recently that Polanski settled the lawsuit that arose out of his raping that girl in the 70s. Again, doesn’t change anything. I mean, they both blotted their copybooks, nothing they do except hard time in prison and making serious amends, could make me think differently of them. And that’s not something those shitbirds are gonna do. The whitewashing doesn’t have any effect on me.
P.S. I remember seeing an old SNL skit with … Louis CK and Kate McKinnon, where they’re married, and she plays the wife who has learned about lesbianism, and no longer wants to sleep with her husband. I stopped watching it when I realized it was Louis CK, but (haha) I thought it was kinda funny, him getting rejected by his wife in the skit. I can’t say I was unhappy with that setup.
Tony Jay
@Chet Murthy:
They just make it impossible via their actions for decent people to – enjoy – their work. That’s the salient point. You can appreciate it for what it is. You can even admire the craft and when necessary acknowledge the pleasure of the challenge to understand it. But you can’t enjoy it, especially when it’s a form of art (like comedy) that primarily exists to be enjoyed, because of them.
Which is why scumbag creators are, to borrow a great phrase, a useful test of character. People’s reasons for staying on board their train tell you a lot about them as human beings.
JWR
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Betty
You see stories like this and two questions come to mind. Why does Kamala have to say what she would differently from Biden when he has done such an outstanding job? How ridiculous do you have to be to keep saying you are undecided in this race?
evodevo
@MinuteMan:
Yes, this. PBS had a viewing of “Little Bird” earlier this year that covered just this subject. The children were turned over to their equivalent of CPS over a bunch of made-up crap and never returned to the parents. Years later, “Little Bird” managed to uncover her heritage and found her relatives on the rez..
There were also some subplots in the tv show 1923 about this.