One of our BJ peeps sent this to me. It’s a great video from a pro-Palestinian group making the case anyone engages with a voter on this issue – this is an excellent video.
It’s Muslims in Palestine encouraging people to vote for Harris. The American acknowledges how upset he is about the the lack of adequate support from the US, but they still encourage people to vote for Harris, making it clear that Trump would be far, far, worse.
I can’t embed from Instagram. but if you find it on YouTube or twitter, please share a link.
In the meantime, here’s the Instagram link. If you click the X to close the login/ signup screen, you can still watch the video.
It seems important to share this with all who have concerns about this.
Thoughts? (Assuming you watch the video.)
Update at 4:45 pm (info from commenter Torrey)
Here’s the link to the page containing that and related videos on the Oakland Corps website. You can link from there to the YouTube videos for each of the people shown in the video, as well as the general video. Unfortunately, the man doing the voiceover does the same voiceover for each of the participants, when I want him to shut up and let them talk. So, annoying video voice-over management, but you can at least see each of the videos individually and follow the transcript of their words on the screen.
One more stop in Nebraska?
Baud
Good for them for stepping up under difficult circumstances.
Tony Jay
Great. A simple, clear message. US policy towards Israel/Palestine (much like UK policy) is a disgrace that will reverberate through history, but Trump would be far worse, so vote Democratic.
Some people will find the clarity infuriating, but it’s good to have it out there.
moonbat
Reminds me of one of several times I went to Egypt and folks in the suq were begging me to vote against Bush II. Folks in those countries watch our politics a lot more closely than many Americans, sad to say.
But in the case of the Palestinians, hell yeah, they know there is no perfect candidate, but they know a horror show candidate when they see one in Trump and have no difficulty making a choice.
Ruckus
@Tony Jay:
Some people will find the clarity infuriating, but it’s good to have it out there.
A lot of things in the world are infuriating and need to be discussed, which likely wouldn’t change more than a very few minds. But then that is humanity.
FastEdD
A former friend of mine is trying to get her friends to vote for Jill Stein because of I/P issues. She used to be all in for womens’ issues but now she is obsessed with Palestine to the exclusion of absolutely everything else. Loves Code Pink, spends her time attacking Dems only. She used to love AOC and Bernie, now she thinks they are sellouts and won’t listen to them. Fortunately she lives in CA so her vote doesn’t matter, but I can’t even talk to her, and I’ve known her all my life.
Baud
@moonbat:
Trump isn’t even bothering to falsely pander to them about where he stands, the way he lies to supporters he respects.
Baud
@FastEdD:
I’m sorry. Stories like that are widespread. You’re not alone.
John S.
Maybe someone should get this over to Rep. Tlaib, her sister and all the other geniuses that are trying to scuttle the Muslim vote in Michigan because Harris didn’t give them a pony already.
Or maybe their outrage is merely perfunctory while they sit comfortably here in the US without fearing the direct consequences of Trump being president like these people they claim to speak for.
🤷🏻♂️
Tony Jay
@Ruckus:
This is true. The moment a topic becomes too divisive to discuss is when it becomes sole property of the propagandists, then no one learns a damned thing.
WaterGirl
@FastEdD: Maybe you can send her a link to the video?
WaterGirl
@John S.: Anyone who is on twitter could send Rep. Tlaib the link, could they not?
John S.
@WaterGirl:
Absolutely! And they all should.
moonbat
@Baud: Well, his Muslim ban is not so long ago that people have forgotten. The fact that he panders most to those evangelical nutjobs who believe that when all the Jews return to Zion Armageddon will begin is pretty out there in the open too. So, even if he did bother lying to them, it would be hard for even an experienced conman to pull off.
Baud
@moonbat:
Well, to his credit, he’s pulled off what most can’t, by creating a cult of personality.
Tony Jay
@FastEdD:
That’s just sad and pointless, for all of the reasons you’ve probably already laid out to your former friend only to be ignored.
Masturbation is perfectly natural, but keep it in the bedroom and far away from politics!
oldgold
Democracy dies in darkness is the Washington Post‘s slogan. A slogan championed by Woodward and officially adopted by the newspaper with the approval of Bezos in 2017.
The cause of the darkness is cowardice. Should Trump win, Bezos fears Trump’s vengeful retribution. This is a man worth $200 billon. And, he is afraid. This beyond shameful!
moonbat
@Baud: True, but it is a very pale cult, I’ve noticed.
Ruckus
@moonbat:
A valuable point.
We live in a country where while there are 2 basic sides in politics it seems to me that there are more likely 5 sides.
1 People who don’t give a damn about anyone else.
2 People who are always negative.
3 People who are always positive.
4 People who actually pay attention and try and learn and teach others why human beings can be just a big pile of shit.
5 People who actually pay attention and try to show others how to be better and why it helps more than 1-4.
John S.
@oldgold:
Bezos isn’t afraid, he’s just greedy. He doesn’t want to pay higher taxes (he already left WA for FL to avoid our capital gains tax) and he doesn’t want to lose money on government contracts.
Money is the only thing that drives him.
NaijaGal
I cancelled my LA Times subscription this morning after the owner decided to openly display his cowardice and inflict it on the editorial team.
I no longer subscribe to the New York Times or the Washington Post. There has to be another way for the print news media in the US to thrive (ownership by billionaires doesn’t seem to be working out too well).
I had no idea until yesterday that the LA Times owner was South African born and friendly with Elon Musk.
My remaining newspaper subscription is the Philadelphia Inquirer. I went from subscribing to tons of newspapers in 2017 (I already had long time NYT and WaPo subscriptions) in the vain hope that they would help protect democracy to unsubscribing from almost all of them this year because of boneheaded decisions by their owners.
I’m just one person and I’m sure none of them care about my subscriptions but it is scary to me how the US news media are essentially owned by people who think they would be better off with lower taxes and that nothing else matters (because they believe their money will protect them if fascism comes and they know that Democrats don’t play the revenge game). No moral courage in evidence.
What Have the Romans Ever Done for Us?
@oldgold: I don’t think he’s afraid just ridiculously greedy.
WaterGirl
@NaijaGal: Your entire comment is perfect.
John S.
@What Have the Romans Ever Done for Us?:
He’s so greedy (how greedy is he?) that his ex-wife has been far more charitable with much less money (though still an obscene amount) in a much shorter time frame.
Ruckus
@NaijaGal:
I used to take newspapers.
But.
I found that the level and direction of an entire paper often was screwed up, either biased or possibly insane. And said opinion always seemed to be presented as absolute truth. Which is actually OK as long as the customers actually understand that it is always someone’s point of view and you don’t have to agree with it. And likely often don’t. But I also believe that we get better news on the internet, often in doing what we are doing right now. And we get to actually do input, and in any direction we choose. And we don’t waste trees.
Torrey
Here’s the link to the page containing that and related videos on the Oakland Corps website. You can link from there to the YouTube videos for each of the people shown in the video, as well as the general video. Unfortunately, the man doing the voiceover does the same voiceover for each of the participants, when I want him to shut up and let them talk. So, annoying video voice-over management, but you can at least see each of the videos individually and follow the transcript of their words on the screen.
Jay
@FastEdD:
Spam her with the Vatnick Soup expose on Jill Stein,
https://vatniksoup.com/en/soups/306/
A vote for Jill Stein is a vote for Putin.
WaterGirl
@Torrey: Thank you! I added your info up top.
Gloria DryGarden
@Ruckus: I want the #5 people..
VFX Lurker
Sorry about your friend. I wish she valued her own rights enough to defend them at the ballot box.
That said, Tony Jay may be right upthread about her personal preference to preen and posture instead of taking pragmatic action. Adulting is hard.
Gloria DryGarden
@NaijaGal: how can someone from another country even be allowed to own a news media source in our country?
A. Looks like it’s for profit, not for decent journalism
B. Suspect huge potential to infuse foreign slant and influence into it.
Not ok
JML
@FastEdD: it’s too bad you’ve functionally lost a friendship, but it’s hard to have much patience for this kind of performative purity crap. This is about being able to look down on others for not meeting their standards, from people who care nothing about actually trying to accomplish something.
EngineerScotty
@VFX Lurker: Code Pink is Chinese ratfuckery.
UncleEbeneezer
@FastEdD: Does your friend even acknowledge Hamas’ specifically targeting young Israeli women at the Nova festival, committing mass rapes, mutilation and turning Israeli hostages into sex slaves, on October 7? And filming/celebrating it all? The complete silence from Feminists in the West, about all of those, has been pretty sickening.
WaterGirl
@UncleEbeneezer: I haven’t seen most of those details in the news.
BC in Illinois
On the WaPoGate:
Reed Galen on Twitter says that Bob Woodward has the inside scoop.
He will share it sometime next summer
Bupalos
One of the things that’s a little dicey here with everyone doing the “cancel your sub” thing is that outlets like the LA and NY Times and WAPO, are as of now, where a lot of the serious national investigative journalism that we still have happens.
I half agree with the “punish them” vibe but on the other hand there is a baby in that bath water.
sab
@Bupalos: If nobody who cares about that journalism reads it, then what is the point? Big boss orders journalism that isn’t read. So what?
Gloria DryGarden
@FastEdD: ive lost a friend too. She won’t listen, as bought into the lies. It hurts to lose a friend. Others here have had similar losses. It’s hard when it’s someone close, with a long history, a caring friendship.
FastEdD
Thanks for all the comments folks. It hurts to lose a friendship, especially when I’m older and fewer friends are still around. I know I’m not the only one. She’s beyond reason and I can’t even talk about anything else. It just astounds me that her selfish actions will ultimately make life worse for everybody. The only thing I can do to keep my sanity is walk away. And play with the dog.
UncleEbeneezer
@WaterGirl:
The UN report:
The NYTimes found:
Geminid
Some more Middle East news: Israel announced an hour ago that they had launched their promised attack on Iran. It’s their response to Iran’s ballistic missile attack early this month. Explosions were reported at various locations including Shiraz and Teheran, where the Iranian Revolutionary Guard headquarters may have been hit.
The OSINT Defender Twitter account says attacks are ongoing, and that so far the Iranians seem to be minimizing these attacks.
brantl
@John S.: I wish we could convince the Purity Police that the available atmosphere isn’t pure enough for them, so they’d stop breathing.