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You are here: Home / Elections 2024 / Saturday Morning Open Thread: Shout It Out

Saturday Morning Open Thread: Shout It Out

by Anne Laurie|  October 26, 20248:07 am| 258 Comments

This post is in: Elections 2024, Kamala Harris for President, Open Threads, Proud to Be A Democrat

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.@WillieNelson: Are y’all ready to say 'Madam President'? pic.twitter.com/zAgkz058fR

— Kamala HQ (@KamalaHQ) October 26, 2024

A Harris campaign official says over 30,000 are in attendance here at the Shell Energy Stadium in Houston. They say it's their biggest campaign event yet. pic.twitter.com/17D8sN2IzZ

— aaron navarro (@aaronlarnavarro) October 26, 2024

I like how the seats are filled, and she wasn’t three hours late.pic.twitter.com/Cv35FEI2BT

— John Collins (@Logically_JC) October 26, 2024

Credit where due: Per the Washington Post, “Harris attacks Trump at abortion rights rally in deep-red Texas” [gift link]:

Vice President Kamala Harris traveled to Texas for a boisterous rally Friday where she ripped into former president Donald Trump over his opposition to abortion rights, seizing on an issue that has boosted Democratic victories in recent elections.

Harris, who was joined by pop superstar Beyoncé, focused on the state’s restrictive abortion laws to warn voters that as president, Trump would seek to end abortion across the country.

“The impact of Trump abortion bans has been devastating,” she said. “We see the horrific reality that women face every single day. … The stories are vivid. They are difficult to hear, and they are difficult to tell.”

Beyoncé did not perform at the rally, but she officially endorsed Harris in brief four-minute remarks. The pop star has long supported Democratic candidates and causes but has only sparingly made appearances on their behalf. Harris aides were eager to find a way for Harris to appear with Beyoncé, who subtly signaled her support for Harris’s candidacy by giving permission to the campaign to use her song, “Freedom,” as Harris’s walkout song in the summer.

“I’m not here as a celebrity. I’m not here as a politician. I’m here as a mother,” Beyoncé told the crowd. “A mother who cares deeply about the world my children, and all of our children, live in. A world where we have the freedom to control our bodies.”

She added, “It’s time for America to sing a new song.”

The Harris campaign’s decision to hold a rally in deep-red Texas was unorthodox, given that the vice president has little chance of winning the state, but the Harris team had been looking for ways to make a splash beyond simply taking another trip to a battleground. And in doing so, they drew their biggest crowd of the cycle — roughly 30,000 people, officials said.

Harris’s appearance was also a way to elevate the issue of abortion rights in unfriendly territory. Texas was the first state to adopt a “heartbeat bill” outlawing abortions as early as six weeks, and it has become a symbol of hard-hitting antiabortion activism.

“Texas, you are ground zero in the fight for reproductive freedom,” Harris told the crowd…

Harris also criticized Ken Paxton, Texas’s Republican attorney general, for his recent lawsuit against a federal rule that shields the medical records of women who cross state lines to seek an abortion.

“On the one hand, Donald Trump won’t let anyone see his medical records … and on the other hand, they want to get their hands on yours.” Harris said. “Simply put, they are out of their minds.”

The enthusiastic crowd, in a city that rarely draws rallies by presidential candidates, repeatedly roared its approval. Some had arrived in the morning to begin lining up even though the rally began about 7:30 p.m., waiting hours in the hot Houston sun…

Democrats also hoped the rally would give a boost to Democratic Rep. Colin Allred, who is mounting an underdog campaign to unseat Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas).

In his remarks, Allred thanked Harris for coming to the state to spotlight the challenges facing Texas, but spent the rest of his speech roasting his opponent, prompting audience chants of “Beat Ted Cruz.” He assailed the senator for trying to overturn the 2020 election, fleeing to Mexico during a winter storm and supporting efforts to restrict abortion. He debuted a new attack line, saying Cruz was “too small for Texas.”…

Trump made his own stop in Texas on Friday, briefly visiting Austin where he reprised harsh language on immigration he had used in Arizona a day earlier.

“We’re like a garbage can for the rest of the world to dump the people that they don’t want,” Trump said. “Do you know what [other countries] save on that? Their mental institutions are being emptied out. Their jails and prisons are being emptied out.”…

Harris later criticized the “garbage can” comment, telling reporters that it was “just another example of how he really belittles our country.”

Incredible. https://t.co/jtWU92tWWL

— Simon Rosenberg (@SimonWDC) October 26, 2024

Haven’t been able to watch all of the link below, but if you’re looking for it:

Here is VP Kamala Harris' entire full speech from her rally in Houston, Texas in case you missed it!

She absolutely shined! pic.twitter.com/HvWI2ORz8q

— Art Candee ???? (@ArtCandee) October 26, 2024

Meanwhile…

Maybe it will occur to some of them that Howard Stern was right about how much Trump hates his own followers https://t.co/wDqFdcBibt

— Tom Nichols (@RadioFreeTom) October 26, 2024

4 years of boring governance is exactly what America needs and would be the worst possible scenario for those who make a living off of political drama. https://t.co/yLuH3zHYUl

— Juice TD Tracker (1) (@TheJuiceTDGuy) October 23, 2024

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  1. 1.

    Baud

    October 26, 2024 at 8:10 am

    4 years of boring governance is exactly what America needs and would be the worst possible scenario for those who make a living off of political drama.

    Were people in a coma the last 4 years?

  2. 2.

    zhena gogolia

    October 26, 2024 at 8:12 am

    @Baud: Even more than 4 years, since they seem to have forgotten empty grocery shelves and refrigerator trucks full of corpses.

  3. 3.

    p.a.

    October 26, 2024 at 8:13 am

    For all the words, analysis, studies, polls, it really does come down to the cardboard box/curtain rod/sparrow snark.  Pathetic.  Our fellow citizens.🤢

  4. 4.

    Scout211

    October 26, 2024 at 8:18 am

    “On the one hand, Donald Trump won’t let anyone see his medical records … and on the other hand, they want to get their hands on yours.” Harris said. “Simply put, they are out of their minds.”

    Perfect.

  5. 5.

    narya

    October 26, 2024 at 8:18 am

    Penzey’s has vanilla on sale this weekend–25% off–as well as a sale on the spices that Harris bought when she visited Penzey’s in Pittsburgh. JOY is the code for the spices and GOODNESS for the vanilla

    ETA: I had to stop myself from buying more vanilla–despite the vast amounts I use, I still have unopened bottles from previous sales . . .

  6. 6.

    JerseyBeard

    October 26, 2024 at 8:21 am

    As a long former resident of Texas nothing would make me happier to see that state return to its blue roots. Texas is full of amazing, warm, kind people who have been drowned out by an energized minority. I know I’m a dreamer, but I’m hoping this is the year we take back a Senate seat and put the fear of the almighty into the GOP by taking its electoral votes too.

    Texas is not deep red. Its just been governed that way for too long.

  7. 7.

    TBone

    October 26, 2024 at 8:26 am

    Today’s Word of the Day:

    Shone

    🌠🌟💖🤩

  8. 8.

    Scout211

    October 26, 2024 at 8:29 am

    USA TodayDETROIT – Michelle Obama will urge voters to get off the sidelines and cast a ballot for Vice President Kamala Harris on Saturday in a rare campaign appearance that coincides with the first day of early voting across Michigan.

    Obama will boost Harris in Kalamazoo, a city in the western part of the critical state and an area where the VP’s campaign needs a groundswell of support from the Democratic Party base.

    Obama will boost Harris in Kalamazoo, a city in the western part of the critical state and an area where the VP’s campaign needs a groundswell of support from the Democratic Party base.

    “She is by far our most effective messenger, most effective closer, and I think going up against Donald Trump, what you want is somebody like Michelle Obama that’s going to elevate the conversation,” said Ashley Etienne, a former communications director to Harris and special assistant to Barack Obama during his White House years.

    I’m looking forward to watching clips from Michelle Obama’s speech today.

  9. 9.

    TBone

    October 26, 2024 at 8:31 am

    @Scout211: I want to see the whole thing!

    Also, Thanks to AL for bringing the positivity.  Despite my best efforts, I fell asleep during last night’s rally, the one I was really looking forward to.

  10. 10.

    TBone

    October 26, 2024 at 8:37 am

    I wonder what Bey is cooking up for Inauguration Day! 🎖️

  11. 11.

    Ken

    October 26, 2024 at 8:39 am

    I’m still wondering what events resulted in Trump’s plane not taking off from Texas until the time he was supposed to start his speech in Michigan. I’m sure if asked he’ll blame his campaign staff or maybe the pilot, because it’s always someone else’s fault.

  12. 12.

    TBone

    October 26, 2024 at 8:41 am

    @TBone: shining music 🎶🌟

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5njC9Bv955E

  13. 13.

    New Deal democrat

    October 26, 2024 at 8:41 am

    You really couldn’t ask for better with Harris’s campaign. Her closing argument is (at least in part) Trump is a demonstrated fascist, and he and his minions want to take away your right to control your own body (Dobbs!). Hopefully there will be a pithy economic pitch as well. She has also effectively caused the press to pivot away from immigration, which is Trump’s best issue.

    To keep control of the Senate, Democrats have to draw an inside straight, and Nebraska and Texas are the races constituting that winning combination.

    Well done, Harris campaign!

  14. 14.

    VeniceRiley

    October 26, 2024 at 8:43 am

    @TBone: National Anthem? And I want another Amanda Gorman poem!

  15. 15.

    TBone

    October 26, 2024 at 8:45 am

    @VeniceRiley: 💜

  16. 16.

    Lapassionara

    October 26, 2024 at 8:45 am

    @Baud: we are the United States of Amnesia. It drives me crazy that we don’t seem to remember the horrors of Republican governance.

  17. 17.

    brendancalling

    October 26, 2024 at 8:47 am

    Great article, but why are we rewarding bad behavior at the Post, and sending them traffic? Certainly there are other papers you could have chosen to cite. I’m canceling my WaPo subscription.

  18. 18.

    JMG

    October 26, 2024 at 8:49 am

    Harris has run an excellent campaign. If she loses, she’ll be criticized for this, that, and the other, but I don’t honestly know what she could’ve done differently. If the voters prefer fear and hate about the imaginary enemies in their heads, there’s nothing any human being could’ve done about.

  19. 19.

    rikyrah

    October 26, 2024 at 8:51 am

    Good Morning Everyone 😊 😊 😊

  20. 20.

    sdhays

    October 26, 2024 at 8:51 am

    @zhena gogolia: W “kept us safe” if you discount the deadliest attack on American soil since Pearl Harbor. Trump’s presidency “wasn’t a total disaster” if you just pretend the entire last year didn’t happen.

    It’s always amazing how huge the curve is when grading Republican Presidents.

  21. 21.

    rikyrah

    October 26, 2024 at 8:52 am

    @New Deal democrat:

    Gotta fight everywhere

  22. 22.

    narya

    October 26, 2024 at 8:53 am

    @JMG: Here’s the thing: for most people, “immigrants” aren’t something they deal with on a daily/weekly/monthly basis, so the fear is only sorta real, but dying because you can’t get reproductive health care is VERY real. Women were told for years that “women’s issues” couldn’t be the basis of a national campaign; turns out, reproductive health care is important to everyone, as are bodily autonomy and privacy for health care decisions.

  23. 23.

    rikyrah

    October 26, 2024 at 8:54 am

    @zhena gogolia:

    Only complaint from me..

    The DNC should have invested in a long term ad campaign reminding the American people about what was ACTUALLY GOING ON in this country 4 years ago

  24. 24.

    JMG

    October 26, 2024 at 9:00 am

    @rikyrah: The trauma of the pandemic and its status as a repressed memory makes me believe such a campaign would do more harm than good. People would resent the reminder.

  25. 25.

    Scout211

    October 26, 2024 at 9:01 am

    @Ken: I’m still wondering what events resulted in Trump’s plane not taking off from Texas until the time he was supposed to start his speech in Michigan.

    The official story is that he was taping his interview with Joe Rogan and it ran 3 hours long.

  26. 26.

    p.a.

    October 26, 2024 at 9:02 am

    @rikyrah:Only complaint from me… The DNC should have invested in a long term ad campaign reminding the American people about what was ACTUALLY GOING ON in this country 4 years ago

     

     

    thisThisTHIS.  All that’s needed is video of news reports!  Don’t even have to interview people or hire actors.  Remember the closeups of… ?(the scarf-wearing doc) rolling her eyes during tRump’s pressers?  Or his “inject cleaners” and “shine a light” brilliance?

  27. 27.

    TBone

    October 26, 2024 at 9:03 am

    @Scout211: “forgot” his gas money.

    Ass, gas, or grass, amirite?

  28. 28.

    TBone

    October 26, 2024 at 9:05 am

    @p.a.: Sarah Cooper remembers

    “How To Medical”

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RxDKW75ueIU

  29. 29.

    lowtechcyclist

    October 26, 2024 at 9:08 am

    @TBone:

    Ass, gas, or grass, amirite?

    Hadn’t heard/seen that one in half a lifetime!

  30. 30.

    TBone

    October 26, 2024 at 9:08 am

    @narya: thank you, we can all use FLAVOR and also the scent…ahhhhh!

  31. 31.

    TBone

    October 26, 2024 at 9:09 am

    @lowtechcyclist: 😆

    I’m nothing if not an old classic.

  32. 32.

    Bostondreams

    October 26, 2024 at 9:12 am

    @Scout211: and apparently was boring as hell. Tho even Rogan got sick of his ‘weave’ shit.

  33. 33.

    TBone

    October 26, 2024 at 9:12 am

    Got ‘er right where we want her – on the run!

    WATCH: GOP Candidate Runs To Avoid Autographing Her Death Threat To Obama

    Republican nominee for North Carolina Superintendent of Public Instruction Michele Morrow appeared to flee after being asked to autograph messages she wrote calling for former President Barack Obama to be killed.

    ETA “Public Instruction Supervisor” 😆

  34. 34.

    Ken

    October 26, 2024 at 9:16 am

    @Scout211: The official story is that he was taping his interview with Joe Rogan and it ran 3 hours long.

    I choose to read that as “we had to run the cameras for five hours to get enough semi-coherent material for a 20-minute show”.

  35. 35.

    TBone

    October 26, 2024 at 9:17 am

    @Ken: 🎯 nailed it.

  36. 36.

    frosty

    October 26, 2024 at 9:20 am

    @TBone: That’s an oldie!

  37. 37.

    Ken

    October 26, 2024 at 9:22 am

    @TBone: “Public Instruction Supervisor”

    There are just some job titles that remind me of the Doctor Who episode “Four to Doomsday”, where the alien Monarch introduces his two ministers, Enlightenment and Discipline. The Doctor (Peter Davison) says “So, you are the Minister of Discipline.”

  38. 38.

    Betty Cracker

    October 26, 2024 at 9:22 am

    I mentioned in the thread below that I saw a clip of Rogan’s Trump interview. Trump was kissing Rogan’s ass and pandering pathetically hard. Trump aside, it’s not a healthy sign that so many millions of dudes hang on that meathead Rogan’s every word.

  39. 39.

    TBone

    October 26, 2024 at 9:22 am

    @frosty: sometimes, the old ways are best.  Not always.

  40. 40.

    Spanky

    October 26, 2024 at 9:23 am

    @Ken:

    I’m still wondering what events resulted in Trump’s plane not taking off from Texas until the time he was supposed to start his speech in Michigan.

    It took him an hour to get up the steps.

  41. 41.

    Dorothy A. Winsor

    October 26, 2024 at 9:23 am

    @narya: My neighbors do encounter immigrants all the time, but they don’t seem to register that. Yesterday, FOX was on in the cafe in my over-55 condo building. Trump was on there ranting about how the US was a garbage dump because of immigrants, and some of my neighbors were watching attentively. I wanted to shout “look around! How many of the kitchen staff, caregivers, and cleaners here are immigrants? And yet you’re fine with them being insulted like this.”

  42. 42.

    trnc

    October 26, 2024 at 9:23 am

    WTF does Kamala need to answer DT’s “attack lines” on immigration? When do outlets like The Economist instead decide to call BS and say they’ll ask Kamala about it when DT stops making shit up?

  43. 43.

    lowtechcyclist

    October 26, 2024 at 9:24 am

    @sdhays: ​
     

    W “kept us safe” if you discount the deadliest attack on American soil since Pearl Harbor. Trump’s presidency “wasn’t a total disaster” if you just pretend the entire last year didn’t happen.

    It’s always amazing how huge the curve is when grading Republican Presidents.

    And in both cases, the Rethug President got us into trouble by refusing to do what the preceding Dem Administration had been doing to keep us safe.

    The Clinton Administration had been paying close attention to the threat of Al Qaeda terrorism, and you can bet that if Gore had been President, those FBI guys who reported on Middle Eastern types who were interested in learning to fly a plane but didn’t care about landing – they and their bosses would have gotten bonuses and promotions for passing that info up the ladder, rather than being disregarded under Dubya because if the Dems were concerned about terrorism by non-state actors, then he and Cheney had to do something different like focus on Iraq.

    I want to make sure this never gets memory-holed. If Gore had been President, 9/11/2001 would have been just another Tuesday.

    And of course Obama’s administration had prepared a detailed playbook for responding to the next pandemic, and Trump and his crew threw it into the trash, at the cost of hundreds of thousands of American lives.

  44. 44.

    TBone

    October 26, 2024 at 9:25 am

    @Ken: that reminds me, a campaign someone composed a cheap social media splat for Donold yesterday that used the word “skulduggery.” It was capitalized, and another Bullhorn of Projection dead giveaway.  📣

    I can’t remember which spelling was used.

  45. 45.

    brendancalling

    October 26, 2024 at 9:26 am

    Heading out to canvas around 11 EST in Philly!

  46. 46.

    lowtechcyclist

    October 26, 2024 at 9:28 am

    @trnc:

    WTF does Kamala need to answer DT’s “attack lines” on immigration? When do outlets like The Economist instead decide to call BS and say they’ll ask Kamala about it when DT stops making shit up?

    Damned good question!

  47. 47.

    Chief Oshkosh

    October 26, 2024 at 9:28 am

    @p.a.: Yes, I remember those clips, too. But if you really want to bring the painful reminders, use the news reports showing the occupied body bags being put into the refrigerator trucks.

  48. 48.

    TBone

    October 26, 2024 at 9:31 am

    @Chief Oshkosh: apropos for Halloween vibe.

    I’m not sure that’s a good idea tho.

  49. 49.

    MazeDancer

    October 26, 2024 at 9:33 am

    Cancelled my WaPo subscription. Which I had gotten years ago when I cancelled my NYT subscription over their hiring of a climate change denier.

    Unfortunately, I discovered my WaPo subscription had renewed on Oct 7. So I’m cancelled, but stuck for a year.

    While I appreciate my Philly Inquirer subscription, the paper is, rightly so, very Philly oriented. So it is mostly boring to me.

    No good local options either.

  50. 50.

    TBone

    October 26, 2024 at 9:35 am

    @brendancalling: go in good spirits, friend!

  51. 51.

    p.a.

    October 26, 2024 at 9:35 am

    @Betty Cracker: I mentioned in the thread below that I saw a clip of Rogan’s Trump interview. Trump was kissing Rogan’s ass and pandering pathetically hard. Trump aside, it’s not a healthy sign that so many millions of dudes hang on that meathead Rogan’s every word.

     

     

    Yes, but MAYBE (🤞🏻) it’s because the space for meatheads to be meatheads in public is shrinking.  Like a species going extinct retreating to smaller and smaller environmental niches.  The numbers might look impressive because of concentration, but overall…

    This is just:🤞🏻, because I’m not naturally optimistic.

  52. 52.

    narya

    October 26, 2024 at 9:35 am

    @Dorothy A. Winsor: Srsly. I know that my experience is wildly different–I live in the area of the city that has long served as the gateway for immigrants. The number of languages spoken in this ward is ridiculously large, IIRC, so running across immigrants from multiple African nations and Spanish-speaking nations and Ukrainian and Russian immigrants is just . . . normal. But to your point, when TCFG starts ranting about deporting immigrants, and people cheer him, I wonder who they think will pick the crops and work the dairy farms and build the houses and tend the lawns and provide care to millions of people. I’m reminded of a line from a Springsteen song (“American Land”): “The hands that built this country we’re always trying to keep down.” The whole song is my favorite counter to the anti-immigration crap.

  53. 53.

    TBone

    October 26, 2024 at 9:37 am

    @MazeDancer: how about The Inquirer writeup on the new art installation at LOVE Park, called The Portal!  That’s not a boring story, IMO.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/mesmerized-by-the-portal-morning-newsletter/ar-AA1sY5Oh

    Unfortunately, it is paywalled.

  54. 54.

    trnc

    October 26, 2024 at 9:37 am

    @Baud:

    4 years of boring governance is exactly what America needs and would be the worst possible scenario for those who make a living off of political drama.

    Were people in a coma the last 4 years?

    The actual governance was boring, as evidenced by the fact that it was almost never covered. The politics of a years long coup attempt by the republican nominee, however, definitely shot a thrill up the villagers’ legs.

  55. 55.

    Another Scott

    October 26, 2024 at 9:37 am

    @MazeDancer: APNews.com?

    Good luck!

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  56. 56.

    OldDave

    October 26, 2024 at 9:40 am

    @Ken:  I choose to read that as “we had to run the cameras for five hours to get enough semi-coherent material for a 20-minute show”.

    You beat me to it.  Similar thoughts.

  57. 57.

    TBone

    October 26, 2024 at 9:42 am

    @p.a.: I am intrigued by your tonic masculinity ideas and would subscribe to your environmental newsletter.

  58. 58.

    Baud

    October 26, 2024 at 9:42 am

    @brendancalling:

    Good man.

  59. 59.

    TBone

    October 26, 2024 at 9:45 am

    Dan Harris on GMA just name dropped & quoted Frank Zappa!

    A mind is like a parachute, it doesn’t work if it isn’t open.

    HARRIS FTW

  60. 60.

    NotMax

    October 26, 2024 at 9:45 am

    Weekend respite.

    Die Musik ist toll.
    ;)

  61. 61.

    Marmot

    October 26, 2024 at 9:46 am

    @JerseyBeard: Thank you for that.

  62. 62.

    Chief Oshkosh

    October 26, 2024 at 9:46 am

    I think it is good that several of the LATimes editorialists resigned and that the head of the editorial page for WaPo resigned, but it seems to me that collective action by those writers and cartoonists would be a better tactic. One or two resigning in dribs and drabs won’t do much. Going to the bosses as a united group saying “endorse as planned or have nothing to publish going into the most lucrative week of the political decade (century?)” would likely get much more attention and possibly action.

  63. 63.

    RandomMonster

    October 26, 2024 at 9:48 am

    An “R senate” really isn’t fine…

  64. 64.

    Starfish

    October 26, 2024 at 9:49 am

    @JMG: If she loses, I am sure we can scapegoat Muslims for it instead of looking at the majority of white men who are going to vote for Trump probably.

  65. 65.

    trnc

    October 26, 2024 at 9:50 am

    @Scout211: The official story is that he was taping his interview with Joe Rogan and it ran 3 hours long.

    I wonder if they’ll air the whole thing or cut it down to the few minutes of lies that sound coherent.

  66. 66.

    gwangung

    October 26, 2024 at 9:51 am

    @trnc: They have that much?

  67. 67.

    p.a.

    October 26, 2024 at 9:51 am

    @narya: … I wonder who they think…

     

     

    There’s the flaw in your premise.

  68. 68.

    Barbara

    October 26, 2024 at 9:51 am

    @trnc: ​Hasn’t it already aired? I don’t think it was three hours long.

  69. 69.

    brantl

    October 26, 2024 at 9:57 am

    @TBone: If he could sell his ass (by the pound) he’d have enough money for several trips to the moon.

  70. 70.

    trnc

    October 26, 2024 at 9:57 am

    @Chief Oshkosh: ​
     

    But if you really want to bring the painful reminders, use the news reports showing the occupied body bags being put into the refrigerator trucks.

    Yup, I can see an ad starting out with those clips and a voiceover “This is what Donald Trump thinks was fantastic during his presidency” followed by Biden’s lower drug prices, low unemployment and women getting health care with the voiceover “This is what Donald Trump says is trash.”

  71. 71.

    trnc

    October 26, 2024 at 9:58 am

    @TBone: Nice!

  72. 72.

    Starfish

    October 26, 2024 at 9:59 am

    @Scout211: This article mentions that the interview as 3-hours long. If we had three hours to interview the president, I don’t think that questions about “Is the government hiding aliens from us?” would be near the top of my list, but to each their own I guess.

  73. 73.

    trnc

    October 26, 2024 at 9:59 am

    @gwangung: Maybe, if they loop some of it.

  74. 74.

    RaflW

    October 26, 2024 at 10:02 am

    The Beyoncé clip is really good. It sure seems like having an event with 2.5 million viewers is something a not-in-the-tank press would call momentum. But we know how f–ked the ‘4th estate’ is.

    Speaking of which, the Economist can eat a bag of stale dicks for that “struggled to define herself” dig at Harris. The endless bullshit factory makes me want to scream.

  75. 75.

    trnc

    October 26, 2024 at 10:03 am

    @Barbara: 2 hrs 58 min. You’re right, it’s already on youtube.

  76. 76.

    Mousebumples

    October 26, 2024 at 10:07 am

    @Chief Oshkosh: I think it is good that several of the LATimes editorialists resigned and that the head of the editorial page for WaPo resigned, but it seems to me that collective action by those writers and cartoonists would be a better tactic. One or two resigning in dribs and drabs won’t do much. Going to the bosses as a united group saying “endorse as planned or have nothing to publish going into the most lucrative week of the political decade (century?)” would likely get much more attention and possibly action.

    I expect the corporate overlords would change to AI content. Which would probably lead more cancellations and inaccurate reporting.

  77. 77.

    NotMax

    October 26, 2024 at 10:10 am

    @trnc

    Why oh why look at 3 hours of brainworms dying of starvation?
    //

  78. 78.

    frosty

    October 26, 2024 at 10:10 am

    @TBone: Back when I was hitching I never had to come up with one of the three. But I did get a ride once because I was playing harmonica on the side of the road and the driver told me to keep it up. He must have wanted some entertainment, he got my harpin’ instead LOL.

  79. 79.

    frosty

    October 26, 2024 at 10:15 am

    @MazeDancer: Does the Inky cover statewide (OK, Commonwealth-wide) politics and issues? If so, I might subscribe. It would be like the Baltimore Banner then, another non-profit that covers Baltimore and most Maryland news, but nothing national or international.

  80. 80.

    NotMax

    October 26, 2024 at 10:16 am

    @frosty

    Did someone say harp?
    ;)

  81. 81.

    RaflW

    October 26, 2024 at 10:22 am

    @Betty Cracker: “Trump was kissing Rogan’s ass and pandering pathetically hard.”

    Trump is the weakest ‘tough guy’ on the planet. Its just ridiculous.

  82. 82.

    Baud

    October 26, 2024 at 10:22 am

    @RaflW:

    Speaking of which, the Economist can eat a bag of stale dicks for that “struggled to define herself” dig at Harris.

     
    To be fair, they’d look silly calling her too old.

  83. 83.

    New Deal democrat

    October 26, 2024 at 10:23 am

    @narya:

    when TCFG starts ranting about deporting immigrants, and people cheer him, I wonder who they think will pick the crops and work the dairy farms and build the houses and tend the lawns and provide care to millions of people. I’m reminded of a line from a Springsteen song (“American Land”): “The hands that built this country we’re always trying to keep down.”

    I am currently reading a history of the South leading up to and during the Civil War. The author points out that the Southern oligarchs were disgusted by the immigrants overrunning the North in the early decades of the 1800s, who refused to assimilate.

    You know, . . . wait for it . . . the *germans.*

     

    Interesting fact I read somewhere: the arrival of Northerners and Hispanics in the States of the Old South in the past 50 years, has been the first substantial in-migration to those States in 300 years.

    Also, the reaction against immigration occurs shortly after they first show up, not in areas where the established population interacts with them on a daily basis.

  84. 84.

    narya

    October 26, 2024 at 10:27 am

    @Mousebumples: In a completely-unrelated-to-politics-but-very-WI-story, my friend is finishing up clearing his lanes this morning, and will stop and pick up cheese for me from Carr Valley. I called and put in my order and he’ll grab it on his way back.

  85. 85.

    trnc

    October 26, 2024 at 10:28 am

    @NotMax: Why oh why look at 3 hours of brainworms dying of starvation?

    No reason that I know of. I try to avoid even 3 minutes of it.

  86. 86.

    Starfish

    October 26, 2024 at 10:28 am

    Is anyone reading up on the various ballot shenanigans like the burned ballots in Arizona?

    The one in Colorado is actually a good news story. Someone stole a bunch of ballots, but the signature verification step caught most of them. When they saw a pattern, they went looking for more.

    Some voters overseas are having their ballots returned as undeliverable so they are being deprived of their right to vote.

  87. 87.

    NotMax

    October 26, 2024 at 10:31 am

    @NotMax

    Alternatively, did someone say harmonica?
    ;)

  88. 88.

    TBone

    October 26, 2024 at 10:33 am

    Our favorite Cleveland newspaper’s endorsement 🔥

    https://www.cleveland.com/news/2024/10/the-washington-post-la-times-and-new-york-times-are-wrong-but-were-still-endorsing-letter-from-the-editor.html

  89. 89.

    NotMax

    October 26, 2024 at 10:33 am

    Augh. Fix.

    @NotMax

    Alternatively, did someone say harmonica??
    ;)

  90. 90.

    Baud

    October 26, 2024 at 10:36 am

    @trnc:

    Is the whole interview three hours, or is that the entire show?

  91. 91.

    kalakal

    October 26, 2024 at 10:38 am

    @Starfish:

    Is anyone reading up on the various ballot shenanigans like the burned ballots in Arizona

    This bit gets me

    The ballots placed inside the box at 7th Avenue and Indian School Road were damaged as a result of the fire, according to ABC 15 Arizona. It’s unknown if the motive was election-related.

    I’ll take a wild guess…

  92. 92.

    trnc

    October 26, 2024 at 10:38 am

    @Starfish: Thanks. I hadn’t seen that.

  93. 93.

    Shalimar

    October 26, 2024 at 10:38 am

    @rikyrah: My feeling is the same as yours.  2020 was awful. Trump handled the pandemic absolutely horribly, and people need to be reminded of it.

    But we already held an election at the end of that terrible year and Trump almost won then.  Campaigns poll every message they’re thinking about using.  My guess is no one wants to be reminded of 2020.

  94. 94.

    trnc

    October 26, 2024 at 10:40 am

    @Baud: I spot checked and it looked like it was all interview, but I didn’t want to go blind so there could have been filler.

  95. 95.

    NotMax

    October 26, 2024 at 10:44 am

    @kalalkal

    Needs moar poll watchers (AI image).
    //

  96. 96.

    Matt McIrvin

    October 26, 2024 at 10:44 am

    @Dorothy A. Winsor:

    My neighbors do encounter immigrants all the time, but they don’t seem to register that.

    They register it. They want those people gone.

    The threat isn’t crime or illegality or whatever. It’s that they see brown people everywhere speaking languages they don’t understand

    It’s just pure bigotry. They want to “take America back,” eliminate everyone who’s not like them. Kick ’em out, shoot ’em, gas ’em, shove ’em in an oven. It’s an old old impulse. Whatever consequences ensue really doesn’t matter.

  97. 97.

    trnc

    October 26, 2024 at 10:44 am

    @kalakal: ​
    Not that it couldn’t be election related, but anyone who thinks they’re going to change the outcome by burning up a few dozen ballots is pretty stupid.

  98. 98.

    Starfish

    October 26, 2024 at 10:45 am

    @Matt McIrvin: The threat is food that has been properly seasoned.

  99. 99.

    Elizabelle

    October 26, 2024 at 10:47 am

    Good morning jackals.  I will be out most of the day, but am desperately curious how many subscribers have cancelled their WaPost subs yesterday and today.  Plz let me know if you hear any reliable estimates.  I suspect it was massive, even though a lot won’t take effect immediately (prepaid and billing cycle).

    Ciao.

  100. 100.

    Matt McIrvin

    October 26, 2024 at 10:49 am

    @narya:

    But to your point, when TCFG starts ranting about deporting immigrants, and people cheer him, I wonder who they think will pick the crops and work the dairy farms and build the houses and tend the lawns and provide care to millions of people.

    I can guess! We had that world already, in the South before 1865.

  101. 101.

    NotMax

    October 26, 2024 at 10:49 am

    @Starfish

    “Our great great- grandparents ate gruel, why can’t we?”
    //

  102. 102.

    H.E.Wolf

    October 26, 2024 at 10:54 am

    @Starfish: ​
     I disagree with that flip assessment, especially in context of Harris’s campaign for President.

    I think everyone knows, whether they admit it or not: the perceived threat is non-“white” people’s skin color. And it’s shameful.

  103. 103.

    Eunicecycle

    October 26, 2024 at 10:55 am

    @TBone: good read. I noticed Chris had an editorial about our loathsome SOS Frank LaRose, where he shared readers’ comments regarding Frank. It was pretty brutal, which I loved. He’s an asshat of the highest caliber. He has aspirations for governor but I don’t think that will happen.

  104. 104.

    Jeffg166

    October 26, 2024 at 10:56 am

    https://x.com/anatosaurus/status/1848824189152846038?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1848824189152846038%7Ctwgr%5E9e3a1d3fb3f17da5e3ba91b0b651d304365ee907%7Ctwcon%5Es1_c10&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fdigbysblog.net%2F

  105. 105.

    Elizabelle

    October 26, 2024 at 10:59 am

    The LA Times editorial page editor, Mariel Garza, resigned over its nonendorsement.  To my knowledge, the WaPost’s ed page editor has not.  David Shipley is, so far, too chickenshit to do so.

    Robert Kagan, a WaPost editor at large, did resign yesterday.  Not the same position.

  106. 106.

    Betty Cracker

    October 26, 2024 at 11:00 am

    @RaflW: True. I got the feeling Trump’s campaign people told him he would lose (again) unless incels and contrarian cranks turn out in droves, so he treated their god Rogan as deferentially as he treats Putin.

  107. 107.

    NotMax

    October 26, 2024 at 11:01 am

    Completely OT.

    Mom’s ancient vacuum cleaner (Hoover for the Brits) now sleeps with the fishes. Any recommendations?

    Leaning to this one.

  108. 108.

    H.E.Wolf

    October 26, 2024 at 11:02 am

    @brantl: ​
     Apparently it’s my day to be grouchy about flip comments.

    Denigrating people in public life because of their weight or their other physical qualities is an ugly thing to do. Pick on them for their policies, their statements, their actions. There’s plenty there to criticize.

    You know who sees mean comments about overweight public figures? Not them. Your friends, family, fellow jackals, who might themselves be overweight.

    I’m going to take myself offline until I can be a pleasant conversationalist again. Time to touch grass! Going for a long walk with my beloved.

  109. 109.

    Baud

    October 26, 2024 at 11:03 am

    @Betty Cracker:

    Time to employ Operation Fake Internet Girlfriend to distract the incels.

  110. 110.

    TBone

    October 26, 2024 at 11:08 am

    @Eunicecycle: 💙

  111. 111.

    TBone

    October 26, 2024 at 11:09 am

    @Baud:  deployment imminent 😆

  112. 112.

    TBone

    October 26, 2024 at 11:11 am

    @Jeffg166: oh I love that a lot!

    I have a description:

    badass!

    I’ll wear my baby blue Chucks today.

  113. 113.

    NotMax

    October 26, 2024 at 11:12 am

    @Baud

    “As long as she’s not Mexican.”
    //

  114. 114.

    3Sice

    October 26, 2024 at 11:15 am

    @Baud:

    “We’re gonna turn it around on election day with low propensity voters” isn’t a strategy. It is wishful thinking. I’ve seen too many desperate Democratic campaigns pull that one out of the bag.

  115. 115.

    Chief Oshkosh

    October 26, 2024 at 11:15 am

    @trnc:

    Not that it couldn’t be election related, but anyone who thinks they’re going to change the outcome by burning up a few dozen ballots is pretty stupid.

    Uh…duh?

    ;)

  116. 116.

    Mr. Bemused Senior

    October 26, 2024 at 11:18 am

    @NotMax:
    Harmonica you say?

  117. 117.

    John S.

    October 26, 2024 at 11:18 am

    @MazeDancer:

    No good local options either.

    Check out the Seattle Times. They have plenty of non-local coverage, and they actually seem to operate as if journalism matters.

  118. 118.

    Jackie

    October 26, 2024 at 11:20 am

    @H.E.Wolf: These next ten days are gonna be stressful for most of us.

    Indeed, get outside and inhale fresh air with your beloved 😊

  119. 119.

    Another Scott

    October 26, 2024 at 11:21 am

    @NotMax: We’ve had good luck with small Shark vacuums (but don’t have a Shark floor vacuum).  J has an Oreck Magnesium RS ultralight upright that she loves (it’s not made anymore). I’ve had to do some repairs to the joint where the bag-tube attaches to the head a few times (adding a hose clamp), but it’s been fine.

    Look at the cost of bags.  I find that we have to change them frequently (monthly?) or they start to smell.  :-(

    We have a SEBO Airbelt E3 canister that I like a lot (very quiet, variable suction, excellent filtration, etc.), but it’s quite spendy compared to the popular plastic brands.  (J doesn’t like canister vacuums.) It’s a good choice if you only want to buy a vacuum once, but probably isn’t a sensible choice for your mom.

    HTH a little.  Good luck!

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  120. 120.

    Geminid

    October 26, 2024 at 11:23 am

    Ron Filipkowski posted a minute-long clip from the beginning of Trump rally at the Traverse City airport. It showed him pacing the stage in a long black coat, with some eerie organ music playing in the background. The song was the “Undertaker’s Theme,” walk-on music for the WWE wrestler. It was like some Halloween show.

    That was a no-frills venue for sure; a dimly lit airport hanger with port-a-potties along one wall.

  121. 121.

    Starfish

    October 26, 2024 at 11:23 am

    @H.E.Wolf: A lot of the Latino population is white and yet is perceived through a racist lens throughout the West. A lot of the middle eastern American population is white until some census update comes through in the next few years, and yet we are also perceived through a racist lens.

    So the threat is definitely food that has been properly seasoned.

  122. 122.

    TBone

    October 26, 2024 at 11:24 am

    @Mr. Bemused Senior: wunnerful

  123. 123.

    Scout211

    October 26, 2024 at 11:26 am

    @NotMax: Mom’s ancient vacuum cleaner (Hoover for the Brits) now sleeps with the fishes. Any recommendations?

    I have to have a bagged vacuum with HEPA bags, because of all the dust and crud. I bought this one a few years ago and really love it.  It’s small, lightweight and has a swivel to get into tough spots, but it is bagged and you can purchase HEPA filters for it.

  124. 124.

    NotMax

    October 26, 2024 at 11:33 am

    @Another Scott

    Thank you. The Shark linked is bagless.

    So old can remember when Kirby and Eureka were the ne plus ultra. For canisters, Air Chief (dating myself severely now) — those suckers were nigh immortal.

  125. 125.

    narya

    October 26, 2024 at 11:34 am

    @Matt McIrvin: And they’ve already been implementing that: criminalize everything, imprison the folks who can’t afford to make bail (even if they’re innocent) so they lose their jobs, build more prisons, and then use prison labor for everything. Three things should NEVER be for profit: health care, education, and criminal justice. Okay, four: utilities belong in that pile as well.

  126. 126.

    Jacel

    October 26, 2024 at 11:35 am

    This rally by Harris in what is considered a Red State and drawing 30K people might also serve for preemptive bragging rights to contrast with Trump booking a venue in a Blue State, Madison Square Garden, which holds under 20K.

  127. 127.

    3Sice

    October 26, 2024 at 11:36 am

    The Foxification of the WaPo will fail, and Bezos will unload it at a massive discount. Neither it, nor the FTFNYT have any special sauce that will stave off what has happened to the rest of the news print industry.

  128. 128.

    p.a.

    October 26, 2024 at 11:37 am

    1) I hear that “immigrant criminals” shit from my second-generation born here (as am I) family and respond: they said the same about our grandparents.

    “That’s different.”  That’s the literal response, and I called them idiots to their faces.  Past tense because they’re cut off.

     

    2) I hear tRumpists praising the quality and honesty of Hispanic contractors (the real working class, at least in my area) and denigrating white craftsmen, basically as being entitled.  When I ask about tRump’s policies, they’re: he just wants to get rid of the bad ones.  The age-old story: those I know are o.k.  All the others…

    No one will bother my Jewish neighbor, they’re good people.  SMH

  129. 129.

    artem1s

    October 26, 2024 at 11:42 am

    @trnc: It’s not about a few spoiled ballots, it’s about throwing the integrity of the results into doubt. Are they not going to be counted because they are spoiled? Are the voters of these spoiled being notified and allowed to recast their votes provisionally? What happens if there is a recount? Are all votes returned by post or in drop boxes going to be questioned because of this?

    This will bring a wave of conspiracy theories and lawsuits about whether they were legally handled correctly, whether ballots were added, were counted twice, etc, etc..

  130. 130.

    Jacel

    October 26, 2024 at 11:47 am

    @Shalimar: And the Rethuglicans have done everything they can to shift memories of the timeline for COVID and deaths and the shutdowns to have happened entirely on Biden’s watch.

  131. 131.

    NotMax

    October 26, 2024 at 11:49 am

    @artem1s

    Curbside P.O. boxes in Mom’s town have all been replaced from ones which had a hatch to pull open for deposit to ones with a slot so slim it takes serious effort to shove a letter in.

  132. 132.

    3Sice

    October 26, 2024 at 11:49 am

    Drove through an actual sundown town, and the Harris yard signs were winning 3:2

    I think this is breaking hard. Trump looks, acts and sounds used up, his cultists are “get away from me” weird, and Dobbs.

  133. 133.

    zhena gogolia

    October 26, 2024 at 11:52 am

    @Geminid: And yet they might win.

  134. 134.

    Baud

    October 26, 2024 at 11:52 am

    @3Sice:

    👍

  135. 135.

    Baud

    October 26, 2024 at 11:52 am

    @Jacel:

    Good point.

  136. 136.

    different-church-lady

    October 26, 2024 at 11:53 am

    @narya: I wonder who they think will pick the crops and work the dairy farms and build the houses and tend the lawns and provide care to millions of people.

    Poor children.

  137. 137.

    Baud

    October 26, 2024 at 11:53 am

    @zhena gogolia:

    Yes.

  138. 138.

    zhena gogolia

    October 26, 2024 at 11:55 am

    @Baud: I can’t face it. I’ve been trying to be upbeat, but then my NYT comes with “48-48” plastered over the front page.

  139. 139.

    Kalakal

    October 26, 2024 at 11:55 am

    @trnc:

    anyone who thinks they’re going to change the outcome by burning up a few dozen ballots is pretty stupid

    Not too many potential Nobel Laureates amongst the MAGAs

  140. 140.

    Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)

    October 26, 2024 at 11:55 am

    I actually got two texts from Trump’s campaign yesterday. I have no idea why, my voter info is Dem on account of always voting on a Dem partisan ballot in primaries; I last voted in the Dem primaries earlier this year. They’re the only Republican campaign I’ve gotten a text from all year

  141. 141.

    karen marie

    October 26, 2024 at 11:55 am

    @NotMax: I have an older version and love it.

  142. 142.

    Omnes Omnibus

    October 26, 2024 at 11:56 am

    Longtime readers may remember that I have always been more than a little iffy about Rachel Bitecofer. This take doesn’t help.

  143. 143.

    zhena gogolia

    October 26, 2024 at 11:57 am

    Talking with friends yesterday, and we agreed that they people we hate the most aren’t the brainless MAGAs but the Chris Sununu types, who should know better. Seeing his grinning face on some news program responding to the question of how he can support Trump knowing he worships Hitler, I saw what Hannah Arendt meant by “the banality of evil.”

  144. 144.

    Elizabelle

    October 26, 2024 at 11:57 am

    @zhena gogolia:  Putz and his poltroons at work.

  145. 145.

    zhena gogolia

    October 26, 2024 at 11:57 am

    @Omnes Omnibus: Fuck her.

  146. 146.

    Mousebumples

    October 26, 2024 at 11:58 am

    @narya: late to the thread, but sounds delicious! Enjoy.

  147. 147.

    Omnes Omnibus

    October 26, 2024 at 11:59 am

    @zhena gogolia: Too many populists go nativist at the drop of a hat.

  148. 148.

    BR

    October 26, 2024 at 12:00 pm

    The Texas rally seemed great — I watched most of it, and it had a very Obama ’08 vibe to it.

  149. 149.

    zhena gogolia

    October 26, 2024 at 12:01 pm

    @BR: It was good. Allred was fantastic.

  150. 150.

    karen marie

    October 26, 2024 at 12:05 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: Yeah, that’s some bullshit. Immigration is only an issue because it’s racism by another name. It allows racists to claim they’re just honest folk who want laws obeyed.

  151. 151.

    NotMax

    October 26, 2024 at 12:05 pm

    @karen marie

    Thank you.

  152. 152.

    Weftage

    October 26, 2024 at 12:06 pm

    @Jacel: Heh, they did the same to Obama. GW Bush’s presidency was completely erased. Sept. 11? Obama’s fault. Well, OK, technically he wasn’t president at the time, and wouldn’t be for several more years, but still all his fault. Somehow.

  153. 153.

    Yarrow

    October 26, 2024 at 12:07 pm

    @zhena gogolia:

    the Chris Sununu types, who should know better.

    They do know better. They have chosen not to be better. They made a choice. Choices like that have consequences. Make them own the consequences.

  154. 154.

    Baud

    October 26, 2024 at 12:07 pm

    @zhena gogolia: I have enough hate to go around so I don’t have to choose.

  155. 155.

    karen marie

    October 26, 2024 at 12:07 pm

    @NotMax: If you live in a two-story home, it’s also cheap enough to buy two so you don’t have to drag it up and down the stairs.

  156. 156.

    WaterGirl

    October 26, 2024 at 12:08 pm

    @Geminid: Yeah, that was super creepy.  Serial killer and zombie vibes.

  157. 157.

    Ceci n est pas mon nym

    October 26, 2024 at 12:09 pm

    @Goku (aka Amerikan Baka): We got a postcard with helpful instructions on how to change our registration to Republican. And I’ve also gotten the odd Trumpy text message.

    Or I should say anti-Kamala. I don’t think I’ve seen any messaging giving a reason to vote for TFG. Only the standard line about Kamala going to take your money and give it to illegal rapist immigrants.

    I guess this is their idea of broadening their voter pool.

  158. 158.

    Yarrow

    October 26, 2024 at 12:09 pm

    @3Sice: It is breaking for Harris. Late deciders are breaking for Harris by a large margin.

    https://jabberwocking.com/kamala-harris-leads-trump-by-24-points-among-recent-deciders/

  159. 159.

    Omnes Omnibus

    October 26, 2024 at 12:11 pm

    Well, I need to go get ready to canvass this afternoon.

  160. 160.

    trollhattan

    October 26, 2024 at 12:11 pm

    @NotMax:

    We’ve had two Sharks. They constantly break little parts and we learned on getting a Dyson had not done a particularly good job: rugs revealed their colors and patterns for the fist time in years.

    The Sharks were also quite loud.

    Will caution our Dyson’s canister constantly needs emptying, dog hair mostly, so size should be a consideration when selecting. Ours is cordless, a time saver and one is prompted to vacuum more often. Also relatively light and stores on a wall-hung charging gizmo.

  161. 161.

    Melancholy Jaques

    October 26, 2024 at 12:11 pm

    @rikyrah:

    The DNC should have invested in a long term ad campaign reminding the American people about what was ACTUALLY GOING ON in this country 4 years ago

    Agreed. Could have done a “person on the street” style set of people talking about what they faced.

  162. 162.

    Dave

    October 26, 2024 at 12:14 pm

    @New Deal democrat: It occurs to me that for those that really want mass roundups and deportation that have actually thought about who is going to do this the answer in addition to immiserating the population and forcing them into that role that they probably would also love to really go hard on mass incarceration. And then use them in what is essentially slave labor. Something that already occurs but I’m confident they would happily turbocharge this.

  163. 163.

    Lyrebird

    October 26, 2024 at 12:15 pm

    Your take seems way more accurate than the last bit from the Economist, jeepers.

    I have just addressed 15 postcards and put the message on 3 of them.  Taking a break for the other stuff going on…  Trying to get these to the post office later, and I might vote on the way.

  164. 164.

    mrmoshpotato

    October 26, 2024 at 12:15 pm

    @Geminid: I doubt it was heated.

  165. 165.

    Jackie

    October 26, 2024 at 12:16 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: Harris has addressed this. She promises to sign the immigration bill TCFG demanded his MAGA lapdogs fail.

    We all know immigration and the border must be addressed. But, humanely.

  166. 166.

    jonas

    October 26, 2024 at 12:17 pm

    @Geminid: He really does despise his own supporters. I mean, he loves the adulation of a huge crowd in front of him in the abstract, but he wouldn’t touch them personally with a ten-foot pole. Why people would wait three hours in a cold, sparse hanger to see someone who could not give less of a shit about them, I’ll never understand.

  167. 167.

    Baud

    October 26, 2024 at 12:18 pm

    @Jackie:

    Agreed. The tweet was disingenuous.

  168. 168.

    Omnes Omnibus

    October 26, 2024 at 12:19 pm

    @Jackie: To be frank, I am not a fan of the immigration bill. It is better than mass deportations, but that is weak sauce.

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    Baud

    October 26, 2024 at 12:19 pm

    @jonas:

    He really does despise his own supporters.

     
    Dammit! I don’t like agreeing with him about anything.

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    Jackie

    October 26, 2024 at 12:19 pm

    @Yarrow: Absolutely! Make them own the consequences.👍🏻

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    lowtechcyclist

    October 26, 2024 at 12:22 pm

    @Baud: 😁

  172. 172.

    Jackie

    October 26, 2024 at 12:23 pm

    @Yarrow: Thanks for sharing the positivity! We need more of that. It’s out there, if we look😊

  173. 173.

    Geminid

    October 26, 2024 at 12:24 pm

    @WaterGirl:

    “That was some weird shit.”

  174. 174.

    Baud

    October 26, 2024 at 12:25 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    If we’re lucky enough to have a trifecta, hopefully we can add some good stuff to it.

  175. 175.

    Ksmiami

    October 26, 2024 at 12:26 pm

    @Goku (aka Amerikan Baka): I got a few too. Just respond with fuck off and they’ll stop

  176. 176.

    Jackie

    October 26, 2024 at 12:27 pm

    @Baud: 👍🏻

    (I see WaterGirl is around 😉)

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    Elizabelle

    October 26, 2024 at 12:28 pm

    @Geminid: Nosferatu without the elegance and long, long fingers.

    Get this ghoul gone, too.

  178. 178.

    Lyrebird

    October 26, 2024 at 12:28 pm

    @NotMax: Glad you got more Shark-related info.  Was going to recommend my Miele canister vac, but prices have def gone up in the past couple years.

     

    @JMG: My previous comment was a reply to you, not sure why it did not show up that way.

  179. 179.

    comrade scotts agenda of rage

    October 26, 2024 at 12:29 pm

    @Chief Oshkosh:

    I think it is good that several of the LATimes editorialists resigned and that the head of the editorial page for WaPo resigned, but it seems to me that collective action by those writers and cartoonists would be a better tactic.

    That thought occurred to me. I saw the listing of Wa(com)Post writers who came out criticizing the decision (Milbank, Rubin, Robinson, others) and then thought “why aren’t you resigning?”. I saw the the Guild that nominally represents some element of people there also came out strongly against what had happened.

    Then I read this:
    https://www.cnn.com/2024/10/26/media/washington-post-jeff-bezos-endorsement-turmoil/index.html
    And noted the number of anonymous people on staff who were supportive of the non-endorsement or didn’t care one way or the other. That’s more telling in a way than the high profile editors caving to Bezos.

  180. 180.

    Yarrow

    October 26, 2024 at 12:30 pm

    @Jackie:  I’m not sharing positivity. I’m sharing facts. How people interpret them is their choice.

  181. 181.

    Another Scott

    October 26, 2024 at 12:31 pm

    Meanwhile, I (somehow) just got a nice message from an east-coast volunteer for Osborn for Senate who is in Omaha.  He profusely thanked me for my contributions (here via WG’s thermometer).

    He says they’re trying to raise $300k for the final stretch, tells me how close the race is, how important it is, how difficult it is to run an independent campaign, and how every single dollar matters.

    If you’re not tapped-out, and if you are looking for a place where every dollar you contribute will be greatly appreciated, look over the Balloon-Juice List of Targeted Fundraising.

    Ignoring the screaming of my credit card, I am trundling off to ActBlue.  Join me?

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  182. 182.

    Sister Golden Bear

    October 26, 2024 at 12:35 pm

    @narya:

    when TCFG starts ranting about deporting immigrants, and people cheer him, I wonder who they think will pick the crops and work the dairy farms and build the houses and tend the lawns and provide care to millions of people.

    Prison labor. Like in the South after slavery was abolished.

  183. 183.

    TBone

    October 26, 2024 at 12:38 pm

    @karen marie: that’s a really good pro tip.  We have upstairs and downstairs vacuums.

  184. 184.

    BeautifulPlumage

    October 26, 2024 at 12:38 pm

    @NotMax: ​
      I became a Shark lover when I bought one for the office. I have a mini at home (rocket) and also talked the new employer into one for this office. No bags to buy, the filters are easy to clean, the swivel head is good around furniture, and they are convenient for pulling the main hose off to use an attachment for edges, etc.

  185. 185.

    TBone

    October 26, 2024 at 12:40 pm

    @trollhattan: both of my Shark handhelds are broken through no fault of mine but my Dyson is awesome.  Will never buy another Shark.  Dyson sent a free replacement part once when I broke something through stupidity.

  186. 186.

    BR

    October 26, 2024 at 12:43 pm

    Everyone please sign up for a phone bank shift of ballot curing:

    https://volunteerblue.org/take-action-ballot-cure/

    Or sign up for a normal phone bank shift or canvass shift:

    https://go.kamalaharris.com/

  187. 187.

    Jackie

    October 26, 2024 at 12:46 pm

    @Yarrow: There are facts that are negative, and facts that are positive – dependent upon the point of view 😊

  188. 188.

    TBone

    October 26, 2024 at 12:48 pm

    Tom Sullivan covering The Way To Win at Digby’s place is worthy of a shout-out today:

    Confronted as we are with what not to do, Anand Giridharadas at The Ink asks “our go-to messaging expert,” Anat Shenker-Osorio, to advise readers on how to fight the good fight. I’ll just list the bullets (with some light comments).

    Do: Run like you’re leading the winning team

    Don’t: Act like underdogs

    Do: Call out what you’re against

    Don’t: Feed what you’re fighting

    📣

    https://digbysblog.net/2024/10/26/way-to-win/

    Much more at the link.

    As always, do not obey in advance!

  189. 189.

    BeautifulPlumage

    October 26, 2024 at 12:53 pm

    @trollhattan: ​
     wow, not my experience at all. The office ones take a beating but didn’t randomly break & I’ve had my rocket for home use for over a decade. Plus I hate bags.

  190. 190.

    Ohio Mom

    October 26, 2024 at 12:53 pm

    @NotMax: I bought a Shark after my Miele upright got to the age where they didn’t make replacement part anymore — it was about 15 years old.

    The Shark does not have a bag, just a canister that that has to be emptied frequently. The way the thing works, it fluffs up the dust in the see-through canister, exaggerating how much crap you are picking up. I have yet to perfect emptying the canister without spilling dust, which is obviously self-defeating.

    I dream of sending too much money on another Miele with a bag that holds at least twice as much, if not more, as the Shark’s canister.

    Also, the Shark wiggle-waggles when I push it forward, which makes it take more strength and effort to vacuum and who needs that.

    So no, I don’t reccomend the Shark, except it was cheap.

  191. 191.

    Layer8Problem

    October 26, 2024 at 12:53 pm

    @trollhattan:  Personal experience here agrees on the Sharks and the little bits breaking off.  I just really like the lack of bags and the relatively easy disassembly.  Stuff gets sucked up and tanks get filled to the line with dust and such, just the way I like it.  But the Dysons bear investigating.  And when we went to a carpet place a bunch of years ago to order some new yardage and asked for their vacuum recommendation they said “Miele”, hands down.

  192. 192.

    TBone

    October 26, 2024 at 12:54 pm

    @Ohio Mom: always empty the vacuum outside (outdoors) with the door closed behind you.

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    Kay

    October 26, 2024 at 12:56 pm

    @BR:

    I’m canvassing tommorrow at 1 w/IBEW Local 8 in Toledo – I think it will be interesting :)

    Sherrod Brown and Marcy Kaptur

  194. 194.

    Ohio Mom

    October 26, 2024 at 12:59 pm

    @TBone: What do people who live in apartments do? Take the elevator down to the first floor to go outside? I’m pretty sure that since NotMax’s mom lives in Brooklyn, she’s in an apartment.

    For that matter, I’m not keen on going out in the cold and the rain, but other than that, I’ll take your suggestion and give it a whirl. Thanks.

  195. 195.

    trollhattan

    October 26, 2024 at 1:00 pm

    @TBone: Good to know! Customer service is rare, and deeply appreciated.

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    BeautifulPlumage

    October 26, 2024 at 1:01 pm

    @Layer8Problem: ​
      I’ve never had a Dyson or Miele but I have noticed more brands have swivel heads and are bagless. Those are my big needs. I also like an easy conversion from upright to canister.

  197. 197.

    TBone

    October 26, 2024 at 1:03 pm

    @Ohio Mom: I used to use my fire escape type stairs when I lived in upper floor apartments, just trying to avoid the inevitable re-dusting by vacuum bag/canister.

  198. 198.

    TBone

    October 26, 2024 at 1:04 pm

    @trollhattan: I was really surprised in a good way and vowed to promote that good turn by word of mouth.

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    Florida frog

    October 26, 2024 at 1:05 pm

    @NotMax: thank you, that was worth watching for the pedal work alone. I now feel suitably slothful.

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    Another Scott

    October 26, 2024 at 1:06 pm

    @Dave:

    And then use them in what is essentially slave labor.

    Or literally.

    The monsters love citing the 13th Amendment. NPR.org:

    Lilgerose, who has been in prison for 20 years, suffers from PTSD, and says the chaos of the kitchen made it hard to work there. He kept asking for breaks, and eventually the guards stopped making him work. But Lilgerose says they also punished him, moving him to a unit with less access to the outdoors and to phones. He says he also lost “good time,” which can determine parole eligibility.

    What Lilgerose experienced is common in prisons nationwide.

    The 13th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution abolished slavery, but it included an exception: Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude shall exist, it declares, except as punishment for a crime. Prison rights advocates say this exception allows for forced labor in prisons.

    The unexpected part of Lilgerose’s story isn’t so much what he experienced, but where he experienced it. Lilgerose is in prison in Colorado, a state that changed its own constitution to say no one could be forced to work, not even prisoners.

    Grr…,
    Scott.

  201. 201.

    Layer8Problem

    October 26, 2024 at 1:07 pm

    @comrade scotts agenda of rage:

    Several current Post journalists told CNN they have no problem with the editorial board not endorsing in any situation, with some actively agreeing with the decision. But they all found the timing of the announcement extremely troubling.

    “Several” not having a problem with “some” actively agreeing does not sound like a Post Silent Majority. Maybe the brave anonymous journalists are Hewitt and Thiessen.

  202. 202.

    TBone

    October 26, 2024 at 1:08 pm

    @Another Scott: that’s fucked up.

  203. 203.

    Tom Q

    October 26, 2024 at 1:08 pm

    @Weftage: ​
     Republicans also managed to mash up Ruby Ridge with Waco, obliterating the fact that Ruby Ridge was in 1992, during HW’s administration.

  204. 204.

    Bill Arnold

    October 26, 2024 at 1:09 pm

    @trnc:
    I cannot listen to Mr Trump and Joe Rogan for 3 hours without incurring brain damage.
    So here’s a transcript.
    FULL TRANSCRIPT: Trump on Joe Rogan Experience Podcast (October 26, 2024, Pangambam S, Podcasts)

  205. 205.

    BR

    October 26, 2024 at 1:10 pm

    @Kay: ​

    Great!

  206. 206.

    lowtechcyclist

    October 26, 2024 at 1:10 pm

    @frosty: ​
     

    In case I forgot to thank you for your recommendation of the Baltimore Banner, I subscribed a few months ago and have appreciated their coverage. I almost never get up to Baltimore, but I’m in and out of Annapolis fairly regularly, and their local coverage extends that far.

  207. 207.

    Kay

    October 26, 2024 at 1:12 pm

    @BR:

    I’ll go with my middle son. He thinks women won’t come to the door when he goes alone – I bet that’s true.

  208. 208.

    Tom Q

    October 26, 2024 at 1:13 pm

    Why do people keep referring to Texas as “deep red” when Biden only lost it by 5.5% in 2020 (and it’s been rocketing leftward for the past decade)? Biden carried NH by 7%, and it’s always spoken of as a swing state.

    It’s not impossible Harris carries Texas, or gets within an eyelash of it, and Allred beating Cruz wouldn’t be anything like a shocker.

  209. 209.

    Harrison Wesley

    October 26, 2024 at 1:14 pm

    @Elizabelle: We have real Nosferatu here in FL – I saw a Rick Scott ad on TV yesterday (in which he claimed to be gung-ho in support of IVF), and he mos def should have been picked over Bill Skarsgard for the upcoming movie.

  210. 210.

    trollhattan

    October 26, 2024 at 1:17 pm

    @Tom Q:

    Perhaps because they last voted for the Democrat in 1976, then voted against the same dude four years later. Their entire state government and senators are all Republicans?

    Otherwise ’tis a mystery.

  211. 211.

    Another Scott

    October 26, 2024 at 1:19 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: Yeah.

    She (but not only she, some others as well) had a excellent run in predicting the seats flipping in the House in 2018.  And her (and others’) ideas about “negative partisanship” makes some sense.

    But she’s made rookie mistakes (like some Twitter comment in a Virginia race about a candidate who announced weeks/months before that wasn’t running).

    Silver taught us, and (repost) Rick Perlstein reminds us, having lightning strike once pretty much means it won’t happen again.

    Nobody has a secret sauce. It’s good that she (and others) thinks about these things on a big scale and writes about it, but it’s just her opinion.

    All that said, I think her voice is valuable – there aren’t enough women talking about the nitty-gritty of politics in the mass media.

    FWIW.

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  212. 212.

    Melancholy Jaques

    October 26, 2024 at 1:22 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    I sometimes wonder if immigration is one of those issues where we Democrats are never going to get our way.

  213. 213.

    lowtechcyclist

    October 26, 2024 at 1:24 pm

    @Starfish: ​
     

    The threat is food that has been properly seasoned.

    Now that makes sense! Just think, if we had taco trucks on every corner, Taco Bell would draw a lot less business, many locations would close, and it would become a real challenge to buy a bland taco.

  214. 214.

    cain

    October 26, 2024 at 1:29 pm

    @p.a.: ​
     
    That’s because we still were relying on the media to inform people. I think one thing valuable about this election season is finally seeing the media for who they are.

    The clear double standards for a Democratic politician and a Republican one. The favoritism for one vs the other. But a GOP politician is given endless grace.

    Biden getting kicked out while this orange turd continues to make rambling nonsense and yet no one has sounded the alarm at the level they did for Biden makes their entire set of concerns a sham.

  215. 215.

    cain

    October 26, 2024 at 1:29 pm

    @Scout211:

    Probably kept saying racist things or just nonsensical things and needed to keep re-editing.

  216. 216.

    Citizen Alan

    October 26, 2024 at 1:33 pm

    @Mousebumples: i’ have been thinking for some time that the msm might be especially vulnerable to AI. And honestly, if they just took a press release from each party and told ChatGPT to generate a news article that fairly and accurately depicts the two parties views on an issue, we might get better results than most news outlets today.

  217. 217.

    Irish

    October 26, 2024 at 1:37 pm

    @Melancholy Jaques: I think the immigration issue will become even more challenging because of climate change. Mass movement of people will make all nations nervous. Conservatives have denied climate change and in doing so are creating the mass migration they can’t stand.

  218. 218.

    cain

    October 26, 2024 at 1:37 pm

    @Chief Oshkosh:

    I’m not sure that’s going to work. When the owner gave that order, he knew what the outcome was going to be and he was willing to risk it.

    The man is not going to feel any pressure about the LA Times circling the drain. He made an action to protect his interests.

    No, what would be better is if the KH administration saying they will look into the ownership of the media and make recommendations to protect the 4th estate.

  219. 219.

    cain

    October 26, 2024 at 1:44 pm

    @Matt McIrvin: lol – they don’t even like it when they travel to other countries.

    I some reddit post about a boomer couple moving to Italy to escape the U.S. and what “Biden has done” but also for healthcare. So these assholes who would vote against socialized medicine have gone to Italy. They can’t speak the language, and generally don’t contribute to the well being. Got into an argument with an english speaking Italian when he said they were immigrants here. They got pissed off and said they weren’t immigrants, they were ‘expats’.

    Yeah man, if you’re white you are an ‘expat’ not an immigrant. Bro, to the Italians you are an immigrant and not the good kind.

  220. 220.

    Citizen Alan

    October 26, 2024 at 1:47 pm

    @Sister Golden Bear: if the prisoners refuse to pick cotton, will the supreme court announce that it does not violate their rights to be strung up and whipped or it?

  221. 221.

    pabadger

    October 26, 2024 at 1:49 pm

    @3Sice: 100% in presidentials, only Obama has done that on our side and potentially Bush did it in 04.

  222. 222.

    p.a.

    October 26, 2024 at 2:01 pm

    We talk about existential threats and then just make clucking sounds, wring our hands, and say “let elections take care of it.”

    How about the Justice Dept?  Murdoch only became a citizen as a work-around to own multiple media outlets.  Musk!  Really?  Look: existential threats.  So fucking what if it won’t pass constitutional muster: investigate as a prelude to revoking citizenship.  Let them spend time and $$$ defending themselves.  And if the SCOTUS says:NO!, open another investigation.  Presidential prerogative!  Thanks Johnny R!  And to paraphrase Stalin: how many enforcers does the Supreme Court have?

    Oh noes.  Let’s play by the rules for people who have been accusing us of treason since Joe fucking McCarthy (at least).  That’s it.  I’ll get back on my meds now.

  223. 223.

    TBone

    October 26, 2024 at 2:02 pm

    💩

    Catherine Belton
    @CatherineBelton


    The AP reported that hours after the Post announced its endorsement decision, Trump greeted executives from Blue Origin, the space company owned by Bezos that has a $3.4bn contract with Nasa to build a spacecraft to carry astronauts to the moon and back.

  224. 224.

    p.a.

    October 26, 2024 at 2:05 pm

    @Citizen Alan: Funny thing about prison labor: “surprisingly” the  labor went to the politically connected businessmen/contractors.  Lots of contractors hated the system, and lost their businesses because they couldn’t compete.

  225. 225.

    comrade scotts agenda of rage

    October 26, 2024 at 2:06 pm

    @cain:

    My wife heard that piece and wanted to strangle those two.  No fucking clue about anything and if things weren’t exactly the way they expected them to be based on their life’s experience in the US, then things were wrong.

    I’ve lived and worked in Italy, we seriously considered moving there after I retired, did our homework, unlike those two wankers.

  226. 226.

    RaflW

    October 26, 2024 at 2:09 pm

    @TBone: I submitted a Letter to the Editor at WaPo this morning saying that Bezos has wrecked the news divisions credibility on anything regarding space exploration, Blue Origin, SpaceX or any other contractor, now that we know the decision to yank the endorsement happened on the same day Blue Origin execs met with Trump.

    I do not, for one nanosecond, believe the firewall between opinion and news is not permeable at WaPo now.

  227. 227.

    Irish

    October 26, 2024 at 2:13 pm

    Hi Everyone! New to commenting here. Reader on and off through the years. Scary times.

  228. 228.

    Villago Delenda Est

    October 26, 2024 at 2:18 pm

    Utterly worthless sack of shit Rick Perry, aka Governor Goodhair, has yet again made a total fool of himself by telling Kamala she’s “wasting her time” in Texas.  Right, asshole.

  229. 229.

    Villago Delenda Est

    October 26, 2024 at 2:21 pm

    @lowtechcyclist: it would become a real challenge to buy a bland taco.

    I’m not seeing a downside here.  Pass the habanero sauce!

  230. 230.

    karen marie

    October 26, 2024 at 2:22 pm

    @TBone: I have doubled plastic grocery bags hanging off a drawer handle in the kitchen. I stick the bottom of the cannister into it and then open it. All the fluff and dust goes in easily with no backflow. I then rinse the cannister in the tub and leave it to dry.

  231. 231.

    AWOL

    October 26, 2024 at 2:27 pm

    @Tom Q: I agree. We write off millions. And then celebrate our own “Blue” states, which may be full of 49.9999 percent fascist voters.

    The EV not only perverts our democracy, it also perverts one’s entire perception of complex regions with complex demographics, cultures, and economies.

    But nothing will be fixed until it all falls apart into unfixableness.

  232. 232.

    Erin

    October 26, 2024 at 2:30 pm

    Good news. 9.5 million early votes cast so far in the 7 swing states. 952,866 more women have voted than men, or 55.1-44.9%. The gender gap grew by 87,396 from Thursday. Gender turnout gap is +14% points in MI, +13 in PA, +12 in GA, +10 in WI, +9 in NC, +4 in AZ, -2 in NV. Good for Harris.

    https://x.com/thirdwaykessler/status/1849916996919456098?s=46

  233. 233.

    sab

    October 26, 2024 at 2:32 pm

    @TBone: Robert Taft III endorsed Sherrod Brown! And as Brown said, running against Taft was the only campaign Brown ever lost.

  234. 234.

    Anoniminous

    October 26, 2024 at 2:37 pm

    @NotMax:

    If it’s from the 40s or 50s it is worth taking to a repair shop and see how much money it would take to bring it back to working order.  I had one reconditioned and it worked like a champ for another 30 years.

  235. 235.

    satby

    October 26, 2024 at 2:39 pm

    Just saw this on the bird site, and it’s hearsay, but Elizabelle was asking so here it is:

    A friend who works for #WaPo marketing dept says there’s a #WaPoMeltDown in their business unit following the news as digital subscriptions cancellations have hit 60k barely 8 hrs after decision not to endorse. Cancellation rate is unprecedented and we’re barely 24 hours into it.

  236. 236.

    A woman from anywhere (formerly Mohagan)

    October 26, 2024 at 2:41 pm

    @Goku (aka Amerikan Baka): I got 2 fundraising letters from the CA Republican Party earlier this year and I am the same as you – have been registered and voted Democratic since I cast my first primary vote for McGovern in 1972. Sent the letters back to them in their postage paid envelopes. Idiots. Did they pay someone good money for a list of non-movable dems?

  237. 237.

    dnfree

    October 26, 2024 at 2:42 pm

    @Melancholy Jaques: How would you define “our way” on immigration such that your proposed policy would be agreeable to a majority of Democrats?how about coming up with something a majority of Americans would agree with?  It’s a VERY difficult issue.

  238. 238.

    trollhattan

    October 26, 2024 at 2:42 pm

    @Villago Delenda Est: Dubya to Rih to Hey Abbott, they’ve gone from bad to worse to worstest. What’s next after Abbott terms out, Governor Paxton?

  239. 239.

    dnfree

    October 26, 2024 at 2:46 pm

    @NotMax: It depends on how much vacuuming you do at a time.  I have a Dyson stick vacuum (V10, several years old).  I can do about half my space (about 2000 sf, split between solid and carpeted) on a single charge, plug it in for about 3 hours, and finish.  I’m older so that pace works for me.  We don’t have pets, but they’re supposed to be good for pet hair.  It’s lightweight and maneuverable.

  240. 240.

    cain

    October 26, 2024 at 2:48 pm

    @comrade scotts agenda of rage:

    And then they will what to bring that level of dysfunction on top of whatever existing dysfunction already in these countries.

  241. 241.

    Geminid

    October 26, 2024 at 2:49 pm

    @AWOL: The Electoral College has its problems for sure, but if someone actually lets that “pervert their perception of complex regions,” this would is a self-imposed disability.

  242. 242.

    ewrunning

    October 26, 2024 at 2:50 pm

     

     

    @John S.: I’m a Seattle Times subscriber, but have to point out that much of their non-local coverage consists of articles they reprint from the NYT and WAPO.

  243. 243.

    cain

    October 26, 2024 at 2:51 pm

    @TBone: sounds like it’s time for a DOJ investigation but our DOJ isn’t going to do that are they ?

  244. 244.

    Baud

    October 26, 2024 at 2:54 pm

    @cain:

    Can we please stop pretending perfectly legal conduct warrants a DOJ investigation? The whole theme sets false expectations and turns people into pro-Trump cynics.

  245. 245.

    Anoniminous

    October 26, 2024 at 2:54 pm

    @Citizen Alan: ​
    Not just credulous stenographers journalists. ChatGPT is stochastic parrot churning out word salad at the speed of electrons. We’re already seeing a flood of ChatGPT generated content on the Internet and even academic journals. The science fiction magazine Clarkesworld closed submissions entirely due to the avalanche of ChatGPT and other AI generated stories.

  246. 246.

    cain

    October 26, 2024 at 2:55 pm

    @trollhattan:

    Yep.. Paxton is the only way it will get worse.

    That state needs to flip for it’s own good.

  247. 247.

    cain

    October 26, 2024 at 2:58 pm

    @Baud:

    I don’t know. It’s like the same shit that Reagan pulled in regards to the hostage situation.

    It’s manipulation.. is it legal ? It sounds like election interference by a candidate for the U.S.

    Don’t mind me.. I’m just frustrated about this timeline and how every norm is being thrown out the window.

  248. 248.

    MrPug

    October 26, 2024 at 3:00 pm

    I really like this site, but is it possible to find links to videos that don’t require clicking on that fucking scumbag’s site?

  249. 249.

    karen marie

    October 26, 2024 at 3:03 pm

    @lowtechcyclist:   You’d be surprised.  I’m in Mesa, Arizona, where there are lots of taco places, yet there are still Taco bells.

    I wish Taco Time – a small chain I loved in Seattle/Tacoma back in the early ’80s – had expanded nationally.  I loved their chimichangas and their taquitos.  So much better than Taco Bell.

  250. 250.

    Geminid

    October 26, 2024 at 3:13 pm

    @karen marie: I like to call it Taco Hell.

  251. 251.

    cain

    October 26, 2024 at 3:28 pm

    @karen marie:

    We have them here in Portland. I love their crispy burritos.

    I’ve generally quit fast food. So don’t really go to those places.

  252. 252.

    TBone

    October 26, 2024 at 3:38 pm

    @RaflW: good on ya! 🎯

  253. 253.

    TBone

    October 26, 2024 at 3:39 pm

    @karen marie: nicely done!  Beats going out in the cold, for sure 😃

  254. 254.

    TBone

    October 26, 2024 at 3:41 pm

    @sab: 🎉

  255. 255.

    zhena gogolia

    October 26, 2024 at 4:08 pm

    @satby: Good. Too bad I cancelled during the Biden meltdown, so I can’t cancel again.

  256. 256.

    Bill Arnold

    October 26, 2024 at 5:08 pm

    @Irish:

    Conservatives have denied climate change and in doing so are creating the mass migration they can’t stand.

    Some of the people pushing anti-immigrant nativism are doing so increase political support for blocking future large scale climate migration, even when this will visibly kill 10s (100s, more) of millions of darker-skinned humans.
    The arguments are really dark. There are some who would be happy with a earth inhabited by (mostly) white people, in high latitude regions

  257. 257.

    Another Scott

    October 26, 2024 at 5:46 pm

    @MrPug: Remember: Everyone here is a volunteer.

    (Just about) Every site has problems (cost, paywall, run by adversaries, full of scammers, nearly impossible to quickly use with WordPress (the software that runs B-J), etc. – archive.org is a quasi-exception).

    Pick your battles.  :-)

    My $0.02.

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  258. 258.

    Gvg

    October 26, 2024 at 7:32 pm

    @Baud: Not sure what you mean. Trump pressuring newspaper owners other businesses that they get more of their money from, seems like blackmail to me, and doesn’t seem legal. We would be outraged if an ordinary person was threatened with losing their job by Trump, in fact we have been.
    The contact by some other media people with Putin also doesn’t seem legal in light of sanctions and requirements for classified clearances.

    I also think media consolidation has been In violation of anti monopoly laws for some time, and those need to be enforced, although I think Bezos is fine on that, not sure about the other guy. That’s more commentary about the whole industry which is why I think we have such poor choices of sources in the first place.

    There are some things that should be investigated. Won’t solve everything. But rich people shouldn’t be above laws, right.

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