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The party of Reagan has become the party of Putin.

You don’t get rid of your umbrella while it’s still raining.

… gradually, and then suddenly.

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Polls are now a reliable indicator of what corporate Republicans want us to think.

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Every GOP Accusation A Confession: Elon Musk, Illegal Immigrant & Aspiring Fifth Columnist

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Per the Washington Post (presumably not including editor & Murdoch minion Will Lewis), “Elon Musk, enemy of ‘open borders,’ launched his career working illegally” [gift link]:

Long before he became one of Donald Trump’s biggest donors and campaign surrogates, South African-born Elon Musk worked illegally in the United States as he launched his entrepreneurial career after ditching a graduate studies program in California, according to former business associates, court records and company documents obtained by The Washington Post.

Musk in recent months has amplified the Republican presidential candidate’s claims that “open borders” and undocumented immigrants are destroying America, broadcasting those views to more than 200 million followers on the site formerly known as Twitter, which Musk bought in 2022 and later renamed X.

What Musk has not publicly disclosed is that he did not have the legal right to work while building the company that became Zip2, which sold for about $300 million in 1999. It was Musk’s steppingstone to Tesla and the other ventures that have made him the world’s wealthiest person — and arguably America’s most successful immigrant.

Musk and his brother, Kimbal, have often described their immigrant journey in romantic terms, as a time of personal austerity, undeterred ambition and a willingness to flout conventions. Musk arrived in Palo Alto in 1995 for a graduate degree program at Stanford University but never enrolled in courses, working instead on his start-up…

The revelation that Musk lacked the legal right to work in the United States stands at odds with his recent focus on undocumented immigrants and U.S. border security, among the issues that have led him to spend more than $100 million helping Trump return to the White House. If Trump wins on Nov. 5, both men have said Musk could have a high-profile role in his administration.

On X, Musk has become an avid booster of anti-immigrant rhetoric, falsely accusing Vice President Kamala Harris and other Democrats of “importing voters.” Undocumented immigrants are legally barred from voting in state and federal elections. In February, he wrote that “illegals in America can get … insurance, driver’s licenses.”

Musk would have been required to have both to drive a vehicle, which associates attested he frequently did during the time he lacked a legal work permit…

And, in light of the Trump campaign’s Madison Square Garden Proud Boy rally tonight, per the New Republic — “Elon Musk Stays Silent After Bombshell Report on Secret Putin Contact”:

Elon Musk has stayed unusually silent after The Wall Street Journal revealed Thursday night that the tech CEO has been speaking regularly with Russian President Vladimir Putin.

The newspaper reported that Musk has corresponded with Putin since 2022, discussing personal topics, business, and geopolitical tensions. Putin even made a request of Musk in one conversation: to refrain from setting up his satellite internet service, Starlink, over Taiwan as a favor to Chinese President Xi Jinping.

Musk has been tweeting around the clock since the story broke at 9 p.m. EST Thursday, but has not mentioned the Journal article once, mostly sticking to right-wing conspiracies and promotion of Donald Trump. According to the Journal, Musk not only had conversations with Putin, but with other high-ranking Kremlin officials as well. He even faced “implicit threats against him,” one source said.

The report is especially concerning given that the tech mogul has come out as a strong supporter of the former president, spending millions to help Trump return to the White House. The Journal report notes that Putin and Musk have continued contact this year as Musk has ramped up his efforts to reelect Trump.

In addition to his political activism, Musk has billions of dollars in government contracts attached to his companies. SpaceX, which operates Starlink, has a $1.8 billion classified contract and launches rockets for the Pentagon and NASA. He also has a security clearance giving him access to classified information.

With all of these government connections, the fact that Musk is consistently talking to one of the United States’ foremost adversaries in Putin presents a danger to national security. His control of Starlink gives him immense power over international communications, too. And Musk’s ownership of X also potentially puts the personal information of anyone who uses the social media service at risk. An anonymous source told the Journal that the Biden administration is aware of Musk and Putin’s relationship, but hasn’t raised any concerns over security breaches.

However, “they don’t love it,” the source told the Journal…

Anyone who needs another reason to vote for President Harris should be reminded that her opponent is a puppet for those who demonstrably do not have America’s best interests in mind.

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  3. 3.

    satby

    An anonymous source told the Journal that the Biden administration is aware of Musk and Putin’s relationship, but hasn’t raised any concerns over security breaches.

    Pretty confident that our spooks and the other four eyes know what was being said in those conversations.

  6. 6.

    gene108

    Musk could’ve enrolled at Stanford. Went through a semester of courses. Applied for a work visa and everything would’ve been legal.

    He seems to be someone who does not respect rules and laws.

    I don’t think such people should have government contracts.

    I wonder if the Republicans in Congress would be willing to force a sale of the portion’s of SpaceX that have government contracts for his businesses like both parties agreed to do regarding Tik Tok?

    I think Democrats could be persuaded. I doubt Republicans would want to piss off Musk with the potential to milk him for huge donations in future elections.

  9. 9.

    Mousebumples

    https://bsky.app/profile/ratelimitexceeder.bsky.social/post/3l7jmz2iz752x (must be logged in to view)

    Quite honestly the anti-Puerto Rico stuff might make a difference in the vote margin. Puerto Rican celebrities are boosting it like crazy.

    https://bsky.app/profile/ratelimitexceeder.bsky.social/post/3l7jnaeaecw2f (must be logged in to view)

    To tell what a liability this is Rep. Maria Salazar (R-Miami) has already condemned it.

    If any Juicers have more coding skills than me… Any thoughts on a Balloon Juice starter pack? Include other Juicers and regular front page poasters?

  11. 11.

    Jay

    David Corn
    @DavidCornDC
    7h
    NEW: With his pro-Trump tweets, Elon Musk has essentially been providing Trump w/ free advertising on X. I calculated the financial value of Musk’s posts & found it’s probably at least $100 million, maybe twice that. This is oligarchy. Please read/share.
    motherjones.com/politics/202…

    Elon Musk’s $100 million-plus gift to Trump
    Each day, the world’s richest man is providing Trump millions in free advertising.

    motherjones.com
    Oct 27, 2024 · 2:55 PM UTC

    https://nitter.poast.org/DavidCornDC/status/1850551959733858799#m

  12. 12.

    Ruckus

    @gene108:

    Elon has money and one thing that a lot of money can/very often does buy is a person’s perspective on the world and their place in it.

    It’s been said that when someone has a lot of money one of the things they seem to purchase is a stick made out of gold to stick up someplace that is normally an exit port for crap.

  16. 16.

    Mousebumples

    @Baud: what’s which? The anti Puerto Rican stuff was from the MAGA rally earlier today at Radio City Music hall.

  17. 17.

    Tony Jay

    Dear me. They swung for the stands but appear to have succeeded only in smashing themselves in the netherorbs.

    If only someone had told them that holding a Nazi rally in Madison Square Garden might attract the kind of people whose material is full of the kind of stuff they’d like to hear at a Nazi rally in Madison Square Garden. But if they had, and they’d listened, Harris/Walz wouldn’t have all this pre-targeted GOTV material to package up.

    So, thanks, I guess.

  21. 21.

    Mousebumples

    @Baud: ah, that part, sorry.

    It’s a way bsky created to make it easy to follow a bunch of nyms when you start (though you don’t need to be new to use them). For example, I followed everyone on an NBA starter pack a few weeks ago, and now I have way more NBA stuff in my feed. No algorithm, so you see who you follow (and what they repost).

  22. 22.

    EarthWindFire

    @gene108: Agreed that he needs to be stripped of Starlink and other government contracts. I’m both frightened and angry that he’s talking to Vladimir Fucking Putin and the Biden Administration has yet to be anything other than not liking it. The autocracy is here.

  23. 23.

    Parfigliano

    Don’t suppose there’s anyway to revoke his citizenship since it was gained through a lie?

  27. 27.

    Stacy

    Bad Bunny shared a video of Harris talking about what she’ll do for Puerto Rico to his 45 million IG followers and KamalaHQ is already using the clip from Trump’s hate fest.

  28. 28.

    Chris Johnson

    He wore a MAGA hat in black with the letters in Fraktur, and called himself ‘Dark Gothic MAGA’.

    Trump has the endorsement of Shadow the Nimrod.

  30. 30.

    Chet Murthy

    @sab: Oh, I’m aware.  Very aware.  She’s his KBG handler, so obviously we should send her back to Moscow.  Let her make her own way back to Slovenia, if they’ll have her, if Vova will let her out.

  31. 31.

    Anne Laurie

    @Chris Johnson: He wore a MAGA hat in black with the letters in Fraktur, and called himself ‘Dark Gothic MAGA’.

    Semi-explicit tribute to the Proud Boys terrorist gang. (Not supposed to scare the press-corpse ‘normies’, but Those Who Know, Know *snigger*.)  The TFG gang goes full Nazi for their big closer…

    (Which, honestly, convinces me they know they’re gonna lose, and by big enough margins their bought & paid for SC(R)OTUS won’t be able to wangle them a mulligan this time.)

  32. 32.

    Rational Man

     

    I liked video about “World’s Biggest Hypocrite Elon Musk” by investment commenter adviser & life couch  YouTuber, Chris Norland ( Vietnamese/Chinese immigrant to USA who is currently living in South Korea)

    Chris also has video on right wing & Putin propagandist Tim Poole.

    —————-

    Elon Musk World’s Biggest Hypocrite + Illegal Immigrant
    Oct 26, 2024
    Chris Norlund
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSfjq9ZsHD0

  35. 35.

    satby

    @beckya57: kind of assuming that too. But when the election is over I bet there’ll be some action to divest Elmo from his government contracts. And possibly the beginning of action to deport him after stripping his citizenship, though he’d just run. I still expect the convict to run too, as soon as he loses and it’s obvious he can’t foment another coup.

  38. 38.

    prostratedragon

    And speaking of the immigrant problem, from 1985:

    Rupert Murdoch, Australian-born publishing magnate, became a U.S. citizen Wednesday, clearing the way for his acquisition of a network of independent American television stations.

    Under federal regulations an alien may not own more than 20 percent of a broadcast license and when the Metromedia deal was announced, Murdoch said he would seek U.S. citizenship.

  39. 39.

    mrmoshpotato

    @satby:

    But a good % of the Proud Boys /Oathkeeper LARPs are still serving time for the last dance. 

    And if they want to try again, the DC national guard won’t be held back.

  40. 40.

    Parfigliano

    @Jay: Harris wins Biden has no fucks left to give and 2 and a half months in which to get Elon’s prosecution-deportation proceedings started.

  42. 42.

    KatKapCC

    @Baud: The fact that Hillary has not shattered her vocal cords from screaming I FUCKING TOLD YOU SO every day since 2016 is a testament to her astonishing self-restraint.

  44. 44.

    karen marie

    @Jay: I figured this is why Beyonce did not perform at a Harris rally. If she weren’t paid her standard rate, it would have been seen as an in-kind contribution.

  50. 50.

    columbusqueen

    @Parfigliano: Which is why Elon is so quiet right now-I’m sure his attorneys have advised him that between talking to Putin & lying to get citizenship, the ice under his feet is getting very thin.

  52. 52.

    ArchTeryx

    @Chet Murthy: The media gave Trump over a billions dollars in in-kind contributions in 2016 and the FEC didn’t bat an eye. A Beyonce concert, compared to THAT, would be a Sunday church picnic.

  53. 53.

    Leto

    Back to Muskrat:

    The Right Believes It Has the Supreme Court Votes to Overturn Labor Law

    The foundational 1935 labor law protecting workers is unconstitutional, according to major corporations and right-wing zealots who believe they have enough votes on the Supreme Court to overturn it. In the latest sign that anti-union forces will doggedly press the matter, a federal judge for the Northern District of Texas enjoined the National Labor Relations Board (NLRB) from processing any allegations of employer violations of workers’ rights. The National Review hailed the decision as ​“A Welcome Blow to the NLRB.”

    This is after Elon Musk’s SpaceX won a similar injunction against the NLRB before the Western District of Texas in July. Both cases will work their way up to the Fifth Circuit Court, which has served as an expressway to steer anti-regulatory legal appeals to the Supreme Court ever since Trump packed it with right-wing ideologues.

    More at the link.

  54. 54.

    lamh47

    Baby, I have never had to use the “translate post” function so much. PR folks are on fire! I hear they are flooding TikTok as well!!!

  55. 55.

    catclub

    @Jay: Elon Musk’s $100 million-plus gift to Trump

     

    an improvement over 2016.  I think CNN gave about $1B in free airtime.

  56. 56.

    Weftage

    @Leto: I haven’t seen confirmation of this. I’ll put it in the category of “photoshop or prank” until shown otherwise.

    Now, if “WWII Nazi Crypt Zombies for Trump” show up and claim credit, I suppose that would be corroborating evidence.

  57. 57.

    catclub

    @Rational Man: Chris also has video on right wing & Putin propagandist Tim Poole.

    It is amazing how crazy the constant new shock is to the news these days.

    Broadcasters being paid off by a foreign enemy nation would stay in the headlines for more than two days.

    Mark Robinson’s porn habit would also stay for more than two days.

     

    The press wore out their drumbeat coverage habit over Hillary’s emails.

  59. 59.

    Leto

    @Weftage: as a former longtime SC resident, it’s right in line with every other white supremest/KKK paraphernalia I’ve seen, proudly displayed. I’ll accept they did that until proven otherwise.

  61. 61.

    RaflW

    Musk’s PAC has a new online ad out today. It calls Kamala Harris “the C-word”. Like, they think they’re being cute saying it as “the C-word“? (Bsky link. Not sure where else to find this abhorrent sh*t.)

    It’s like these people have no idea how angry voters already are about Dobbs and misogyny? Combined with the utterly depraved and totally off-the-hook racist Madison Sq Garden rally, it seems the closing argument of Trumpism is “Fuck it, we’re going to be a stump party of only the worst men on earth.”

  63. 63.

    RaflW

    @RaflW: Apparently the ad is running on Facebook. Someone found the ad data, and in MI the audience that has seen the most impressions of the “C-word” ad is women age 45-64.

    It looks like maybe the strategy is for Trump to lose by as big a margin as possible?

  65. 65.

    RaflW

    I know in the UK the word is used widely, but Musk has lived here a long time. There’s no way he doesn’t know that this is one of the most toxic terms that can be used.

    Did they think this and the MSG rally would come off as a dominance ritual? Because it just looks utterly vile, and I do think it will break thru enough to damage Trump’s closing.

  66. 66.

    Aziz, light!

    @satby: I’m hoping Joe is Biden his time (sorry) until after the election and then will drop his hammer hard.

    Before the end of his term, Biden isn’t going to do squat about Musk. Nor is he going to untie Ukraine’s hands. You can call me a single issue voter, but for me Biden’s legacy will be blocking Ukraine from taking the fight to Russia when they could have turned the tide. Now it is probably too late, and a fourth of Ukraine will be sacrificed.

  67. 67.

    lamh47

    Too late now…that genie is out of the bottle and he ain’t going back in!

    @PalmerReport

    The Trump campaign just put out an official statement trying to distance itself from the remark about Puerto Rico. That’s how you know this is a big scandal that’s got legs. This could actually be the lead story heading into election day. If so, a total gift to Kamala Harris.

  68. 68.

    KatKapCC

    @RaflW: I will admit that I personally am not as bothered by that word in a general sense as many are — but that doesn’t mean I want men calling me that and I recognize that when guys use that word in particular, they are evincing the deepest darkest hatred of women possible. And I’d bet plenty of Republican women who don’t like Harris will be completely disgusted by that ad.

  70. 70.

    TBone

    @Leto: WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK “enjoined the National Labor Relations Board (NLRB) from processing any allegations of employer violations of workers’ rights.”

    🤬🤬🤬

  72. 72.

    mrmoshpotato

    @lamh47: That’s adorable.  The racist, rapist, traitorous, orange shitstain wants to distance himself from a racist pile of shit they invited to his Nazi rally.

    Is he next going to claim he doesn’t know who Putin is?

  73. 73.

    RaflW

    @lamh47: Apparently Tony Hinchcliffe is so racist and shitty that Joe Rogan distanced himself from the guy.

    The Trump team knew what they were booking when they did it. They just totally misjudged where the typical American is on all this.

    Also, what Christoper Federico says

    ‪‪@cmfederico.bsky.social‬· 7m

    Folks, there’s no 9-dimensional chess behind the store-brand Nuremberg rally Trump is putting on. It’s not going to win votes or inspire a successful coup. These are weird degenerates who do this because they lack impulse control and live in a bubble where this kind of thing has been normalized.

  74. 74.

    Leto

    @lamh47: Trumpov approves all the speakers. They uploaded that shit to the teleprompter. It’ll be the gift that keeps on giving. Fuck’em.

    Aria Grande just announced she voted for MVP.

  76. 76.

    wjca

    @Jay: He can be stripped of his citizen ship, fined, jailed and deported,

    but nobody will do that.

    Perhaps not.  But don’t bet anything you can’t afford to lose on that.

  77. 77.

    RaflW

    re: the strategery of the Madison Square Garden rally

    Daniel Drezner‬ ‪@dandrezner.bsky.social‬
    Never forget that when one aide was once asked about Trump playing multi-dimensional chess, his response was, “More often than not he’s just eating the pieces.”

  78. 78.

    lamh47

    Trump talked about a “secret” planned with Speaker Johnson.

    Folks speculating it’s this. f the EC is tied, the House breaks the tie…meaning he could be colluding with Johnson for the…which means Harris truly has to win hopefully in a landslide.

    @AndrewLSeidel

    This is known as the Contingent Election of the President and was—although many people still don’t fully realize it—part of the goal behind January 6th. Was just texting with my buddies about this last week. Spoke about on a recent podcast, too.
    https://x.com/AndrewLSeidel/status/1850702543443141008

  81. 81.

    RaflW

    @wjca: I’d settle for his security clearances all being cancelled, and being forced to sell SpaceX and Starlink. Why not IPOs? If SpaceX and Starlink were publicly traded NADAQ or whatever businesses, they’d have to have some f–ing transparency.

  82. 82.

    Leto

    @RaflW: this Nazi rally fits right in with all the ads we’ve been bombarded with here in PA. It’s all been “Kamala has let in illegals”, “inflation bad!,” or “Kamala let prisoners get sex changes with your tax money!” Seriously, basically just that for the past three months. So this racist routine is just part and parcel of the only thing they’ve been selling, just more explicitly stated. Can we hope that our “undecideds” are finally getting a dang clue? Probably not, but hope springs eternal.

  83. 83.

    Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)

    @Leto:

    There was a recent poll shared the other day that showed late-undecideds breaking for Harris 60-something% to Trump’s 30-something%

  84. 84.

    lamh47

    Other than some idiot at USA Today, so far, the headline is the Puerto Rico and the racism.

    And if that wasn’t enough, there is this:

    @MedicTrommasher

    Everyone asking if it’s true that they played Dixie before Byron Donalds came out at Madison Square Garden… Yes. Yes it is…
    https://x.com/MedicTrommasher/status/1850681898562896314

    They were real slick with it, playing that after the previous speaker who was white.  It was Elvis singing it.  So of course you got maga’s saying it was Elvis as some sort of defense.Like…ok…and? It’s still Dixie…Public Enemy speaks for me when it comes to Elvis (IYKYK)

  86. 86.

    Quinerly

    @lamh47:

    Apparently, Trump has been playing Dixie at his rallies. As a native Southerner, I am disgusted. First I learned of Dixie being played was when I read the playlist from his rally that turned into the 39 min dance party. I commented here about it. The press doesn’t seem to have picked up on it or just doesn’t care.

  88. 88.

    lamh47

    @Quinerly: Yup…but no one is surprised the media missed it…the bigger story is the music the campaign have received cease and desist for

  89. 89.

    Quinerly

    @lamh47:

    Quite frankly, I was shocked that many BJers didn’t find it as offensive as I did (in the thread I mentioned it a couple of weeks back). I just left the thread after people here were posting the history of the song pre Civil War, etc. And, some back story that Lincoln supposedly liked the song.

    I know exactly what it means to anyone who grew up in the South. To the White population and to the Black population. I could give a flying fuck that someone from Ohio supposedly wrote it. And, I know exactly why it is being played at Trump rallies….even if it is the Elvis version. And, you know why, too.

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