Come for the politics, stay for the snark.

All hail the time of the bunny!

I’ve spoken to my cat about this, but it doesn’t seem to do any good.

Fight them, without becoming them!

They love authoritarianism, but only when they get to be the authoritarians.

Live so that if you miss a day of work people aren’t hoping you’re dead.

I have other things to bitch about but those will have to wait.

I like political parties that aren’t owned by foreign adversaries.

Yeah, with this crowd one never knows.

Compromise? There is no middle ground between a firefighter and an arsonist.

I would try pessimism, but it probably wouldn’t work.

Quote tweet friends, screenshot enemies.

We can show the world that autocracy can be defeated.

In after Baud. Damn.

Democracy cannot function without a free press.

You’re just a puppy masquerading as an old coot.

Trumpflation is an intolerable hardship for every American, and it’s Trump’s fault.

Giving in to doom is how we fail to fight for ourselves & one another.

The truth is, these are not very bright guys, and things got out of hand.

If you thought you’d already seen people saying the stupidest things possible on the internet, prepare yourselves.

When someone says they “love freedom”, rest assured they don’t mean yours.

Insiders who complain to politico: please report to the white house office of shut the fuck up.

Imperialist aggressors must be defeated, or the whole world loses.

You cannot shame the shameless.

Trump should be leading, not lying.

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  1. 1.

    karen marie

    “Fuckinephrine.”  Yup.  I’ll have some of that, please.

    Tripped and fell today while out with the dog.  Landed on my left wrist.  Not broken but it’s still painful.

  2. 2.

    Scout211

    Wow. That video was from 8 years ago.  I’m feeling some strong déjà vu vibes.

    Brb, gotta run outside for a minute.

  4. 4.

    geg6

    FUUUUUUUUUUCK!

    Maybe a little bit better.  Perhaps if I try once every half hour, I’ll make through the next week and a half.

  8. 8.

    Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)

    @Melancholy Jaques:

    That almost reads like satire. Apparently, according to Wiki, she’s been like this for at least 10 years:

    Since around 2014, Wolf has been described by journalists and media outlets as a conspiracy theorist. She has been criticized for posting misinformation on topics such as beheadings carried out by ISIS, the Western African Ebola virus epidemic, and Edward Snowden.

    Wolf has objected to COVID-19 lockdowns and criticized COVID-19 vaccines. In June 2021, her Twitter account was suspended for posting anti-vaccine misinformation.

  12. 12.

    Chet Murthy

    @Melancholy Jaques: There was an LG&M thread about this today ( https://www.lawyersgunsmoneyblog.com/2024/10/lets-workshop-this ).

    Apparently there were danger signs a while back.  Naomi Klein even wrote a book about it (in a sense).  About how her “doppelganger” Naomi Wolf was a nutter, and she got the blowback from it (from people mixing the two up, haha).  Apparently there was a case where the entire -basis- of a book Wolf wrote turned out to be wrong, and in a hilariously stupid way.  So, well, she seems to have burned her credit among progressives, so she went where she could still get a hearing (and (probably) haha, still make money).

  13. 13.

    Urza

    @Seanly: Graphics are superb.  Story is ok so far but I skipped Inquisition and didn’t like 2 that much.  Getting tired of companies changing turn based/strategy games into real time action but I won’t have any new games if I stuck to that.  Not far enough in to judge myself on story, reviews say its hit or miss.

  14. 14.

    SpaceUnit

    This ain’t my thread, I guess.  I’m outa fucks.

     

    ETA:  And fix them goddamn bayonets.  Five days.

  15. 15.

    dmsilev

    @Urza: Inquisition started slow IMO, but picked up nicely if you managed to grind through the first few areas. I haven’t tried the new one yet; right now, whatever bandwidth I have for computer games is in a very different genre, the expansion pack for Factorio which released a week or so ago.

  18. 18.

    karen marie

    The other day someone here posted about “starter packs” on bluesky.  Apparently you can be included in one without being notified.

    Sounds like a problem.

  19. 19.

    eemom

    @Melancholy Jaques:

    I’m her college classmate. She’s always been a full of shit narcissist; but kinda like her soulmates trump and rfk jr, it’s gotten more obvious over the years.

  20. 20.

    Kent

    @Melancholy Jaques: I feel like I missed something. Does anyone know what happened to Naomi Wolf?

    I’m being serious. When did the transformation happen? Was there some personal or medical crisis?

    I think she was always like that.  We are only just noticing now.

    The funniest part?   From the the comments responding to her twitter post:

    Worse still, they’ve hacked your Twitter account and posted a load of utterly batshit tweets going back years.

  21. 21.

    Richard Fox

    If ever your faith in humanity flags, just wait for Halloween and give out candy to the neighborhood kids. It cures the ills that assail one’s soul. :-)

  25. 25.

    lowtechcyclist

    @Richard Fox:

    If ever your faith in humanity flags, just wait for Halloween and give out candy to the neighborhood kids. It cures the ills that assail one’s soul. :-)

    First I’d have to track them down and find them. Their parents might look askance at that.

    (Due to some very local geography, we get very few trick-or-treaters at our house. This year, we got a not-very-grand total of five.)

  26. 26.

    sconosciuto

    of course he’s a Republican

    “A Navajo County candidate who has made God a cornerstone of his campaign for recorder was arrested after a road rage incident where he pulled a gun and yelled obscenities in front of a Christian school, police said.

    “Timothy Jordan falsely reported people flashed firearms at him during the incident in front of White Mountain Christian Academy, Show Low police said.“

  28. 28.

    SW

    Decided that with the cost of candy I would do something different and hand out Hostess cupcakes.  It has been fun.  To say the kids like them would be an understatement.  You would think I was handing out diamonds.

  29. 29.

    SomeRandomGuy

    Dragon Age… Dragon Age… OH! Yes! I have a complete version of Dragon Age! Yep, all ready to play.

    Um. Are you telling me they’ve made a sequel?

  30. 30.

    Sister Golden Bear

    Between the frozen shoulder and having done both the RSV and pneumonia vaxes earlier this week I’m in a full Cole-level misanthropic mood, so I’m hiding the back of the house for the safety of any trick or treater who ignore the porch light being out and house being dark.

    Extra salty because I had planned to go up to the Sierras this weekend to view fall colors, but the very minor that’s passing through has caused Caltrans to close two of the highways I planned to drive—probably for the winter. Fuuuuuuck!

  34. 34.

    VeniceRiley

    Can’t wait for the next TV thread to tell you all that S2 if “The Diplomat” starring Keri Russell on Netflix is effing amazing. The writing is next level! I binged the whole season in a day. JFC.

    Amanpour just had her and the main writer (a West Wing vet) on for an unusual tongue bath fest.

  36. 36.

    Urza

    @Villago Delenda Est: Can’t for that type of game.  But its felt not as good each time after 4, and it wasn’t about the hexes which I did like.  Not sure what it is other than the wonder videos being pathetic.

  39. 39.

    SiubhanDuinne

    Zipping my own self through a quick rewatch of Season 1 of The Diplomat tonight so I can spend part of the weekend bingeing Season 2, which dropped today

  40. 40.

    mrmoshpotato

    @Kent: Just following the score on ESPN.

    From their records, I was expecting the Texans to be blowing out the Jets.

  41. 41.

    Anoniminous

    @Kent:

    The primary reason for the existence of the New York Jets is to make Cleveland Browns fans feel proud that their team isn’t the New York Jets.

  42. 42.

    ArchTeryx

    @Kent: When will players learn to cross the goal line first THEN drop the ball? That was just… dumb. And cost his team a touchdown AND possession of the ball!

    I would say “only the Jets” but I was once a Bears fan. (Chicago native). I got nuthin’.

  46. 46.

    👻David 🎃Booooooo🎃 Koch💀

    @mrmoshpotato: at age 41, Rodgers can still make two throws: he can still throw a hail-mary pass and he can still throw his teammates under the bus.

  47. 47.

    slybrarian

    I am really looking forward to seeing what new and exciting forms of fandom wank that will come out of the new Dragon Age.​

  49. 49.

    Origuy

    I’m planning to avoid most of the madness this weekend. Tomorrow I’m going down to Asilomar in Monterey County for a Scottish Country Dance retreat. Ceilidh tomorrow night, classes all day, formal ball Saturday night, after party until God knows when, and a combined class Sunday morning. Asilomar is a convention center that started out a century ago as a YWCA camp. A lot of rich women supported it and got Julia Morgan, who did Hearst’s Castle, to build some of the buildings. It’s a gorgeous place, if a bit rustic. I won’t have time for much doomscrolling.

  53. 53.

    zhena gogolia

    @VeniceRiley: We just watched the first episode. I’m finding it harder to follow than the first season. (For one thing, I’ve totally forgotten who all the characters are.)

  55. 55.

    Trollhattan

    @Origuy:

    Asilomar is splendid and that stretch of ocean is world class. Enjoy!

    In Raleigh for the ACC cross country championships. City seems nice, especially the area surrounding NC State. The Office Parque where our hotel is, sterile as a liter IV bag, and walkers beware.

  56. 56.

    Leto

    @ArchTeryx: same thing happened last week, either with a college team or a pro team. I thought the same thing, especially after this was a semi-rampant problem a number of years ago. Such a silly mental error.

  61. 61.

    Scout211

    @Origuy: Asilomar is a beautiful setting. I’ve only stayed there a few times but really loved it every time.  Being able to walk to the ocean from the grounds and stroll along the beach walk is so nice.

    October is usually the best weather of the year in the Monterey Bay Area so you should have a nice stay there.

  63. 63.

    KrackenJack

    @Origuy: Did a couple of corporate weekends there. Did not know any of the history. Nice place to relax. I think your crew will be more fun.

  64. 64.

    NotMax

    Be aware not everything on Netflix can be accessed on the least expensive add-supported plan.

    Found that out when Mom called to ask why she couldn’t watch Wicked Little Letters after Netflix axed the affordable no ads subscription level. and moved those customers to bottom level ad-supported.

  67. 67.

    👻David 🎃Booooooo🎃 Koch💀

    @Trollhattan: ​
     I was watching an interview on youtube with John Huston the other day and he mentioned he’s part of three generations of Oscar recipients. His dad won one for Treasure of Sierra Madre, he had won Oscars himself, and his daughter, Anjelica, had won an Oscar. Wow.

  69. 69.

    Urza

    @NotMax: I love Horizon.  But worrying about the other things coming out the same day as a remaster patch is definitely not important.  Lego version coming soon which might be interesting.

  71. 71.

    CaseyL

    I laid in a small amount of sweets just in case any trick-or-treaters happen by. But my porch light doesn’t work, and it’s a rainy night, so I will be shocked silly if anyone knocks on my door.

    The goodies go to the office with me tomorrow… provided I feel well enough to go into the office. My cold has reached the “dry hacking cough” stage – and that’s after taking the Mucinex!

  74. 74.

    Yarrow

    @Richard Fox:
    If ever your faith in humanity flags, just wait for Halloween and give out candy to the neighborhood kids. It cures the ills that assail one’s soul. :-)

    Ha. Not in my neighborhood. I had an entire huge grocery bag full of candy. Even giving out just one fun sized piece each I ran out. I had to turn off the porch light and hide inside, all while hearing cars and trucks and screaming kids outside. It’s insanity. Probably at least 400 kids when I ran out of candy.

    They are not all neighborhood kids, although some are. They’re from a wider area. Parents truck them in and turn them loose in our neighborhood. And some are adults who just show up to get free candy.

    This year the worst “costume” was two 20-ish women who were in some kind of pajama bottoms and bras. Not sports bras. Regular bras. That didn’t seem to fit well. They came out of a poorly maintained sedan car that stayed running as they went to the various houses. It was a bit creepy.

  75. 75.

    JoyceH

    Ha! On Lawrence O’Donnell I learned that Trump’s latest “whether women like it or not” blunder has brought back the Access Hollywood tape – and some of our new voters had never seen it! In 2016 they were too young and their parents kept it from them. A college girl posted the video on TikTok with the caption “Fathers are voting for this man”, and some celebrity (forget who) reposted to her millions of followers.

  76. 76.

    mrmoshpotato

    @Yarrow:

    This year the worst “costume” was two 20-ish women who were in some kind of pajama bottoms and bras. Not sports bras. Regular bras. That didn’t seem to fit well. They came out of a poorly maintained sedan car that stayed running as they went to the various houses. It was a bit creepy. 

    Creepy.  But creepier if it was men.

  79. 79.

    RaflW

    Popping up here to say that the Defector column two floors down in the blog was epic. I laughed loud enough for the BF to stick his head out into the living room to ask what I was watching or reading, when I saw “they whistled like teapots full of boiling vinegar”. Purrrrfect.

    Oh, and the Halloween party we went to was fun! But also, apparently the 70s sit com Happy Days has almost totally receeded from memory, at least among that group (ages 25-70, but heavily 35-55). A Halloween party at a college professors house in a small town in WI draws quite a range of people!

  80. 80.

    Yarrow

    @mrmoshpotato:  I think it would have been less creepy if they were men. I almost felt like these women were being trafficked. But there was an onslaught of kids so before I’d really thought about it they were gone in the poorly maintained older sedan.

  81. 81.

    Bostondreams

    @NotMax: Man, i DO love this game series and preordered the Remaster. I love Aloy as a character, and curious how the third game will deal with Sylens after the passing of the wonderful Lance Reddick.

  82. 82.

    Melancholy Jaques

    Thanks to everyone who weighed in on my Naomi Wolf question. I was not aware that LG&M had a post up on it or I would have just read the comments there.

  83. 83.

    BeautifulPlumage

    @Melancholy Jaques: ​
     as someone mentioned above, she realized that premise of one of her books was based on her mistake…and it happened during an interview! Not in a place to look it up, but she’s been an academic joke since then.

  86. 86.

    Yarrow

    @mrmoshpotato:  Yeah, hopefully not. It was weird and creepy. There was a man in the car with the engine still running. These women were in some sort of loose pants/pajama pants and regular bras. They exited the car, went to the neighbor’s house, then came over to me, then got back in the car, which drove away. They didn’t have anything acknowledging the holiday, like a Halloween candy bag or anything resembling a costume. It was like the guy in the car sent them out to get candy. I was creeped out.

  87. 87.

    Starfish

    So Biden said something to convince Trumpers to wear garbage bags for Halloween?

    I don’t know what Biden said because I was not paying attention, but Dark Brandon always brings us gifts.

    Oh! The Trump Oompa Loompa costume also had to do with Biden’s comment about garbage.

    I had no clue.

    Maybe I should read a political blog and try to keep up.

  88. 88.

    Another Scott

    @Scout211:

    That video was from 8 years ago.

    A good segue to remember that Facebook killed Funny or Die (and a bunch of other good stuff):

    How I felt on the day of was that a ton of my friends – people who I respect a lot and who are great comedy writers – were just laid off, and at this point it was increasingly clear to me that this is not a management problem or a problem with the content that they are making. The problem was that the whole business model made no sense, as far as us just putting the stuff up on the internet and us being able to make a living on it. I was just angry and frustrated and sad that you can’t make cool shit for the internet anymore and make a living.

    The whole story is basically that Facebook gets so much traffic that they started convincing publishers to post things on Facebook. For a long time, that was fine. People posted things on Facebook, then you would click those links and go to their websites. But then, gradually, Facebook started exerting more and more control of what was being seen, to the point that they, not our website, essentially became the main publishers of everyone’s content. Today, there’s no reason to go to a comedy website that has a video if that video is just right on Facebook. And that would be fine if Facebook compensated those companies for the ad revenue that was generated from those videos, but because Facebook does not pay publishers, there quickly became no money in making high-quality content for the internet.

    And of course, it’s only gotten worse since then.

    Grr…,
    Scott.

  89. 89.

    Betsy

    @Melancholy Jaques: It’s one of those things where someone who is really smart, and contrarian, makes a great start at that.

    And then at some point they  seem to need to be SMARTER and MORE CONTRARIAN than anyone.  Ego and nutcakery take over.  And they tip over into the dark side.

    See, e.g., Taibbi, Klein.

  91. 91.

    JoyceH

    @Starfish: I love the MAGAs wearing garbage bags sure that they are thereby owning the libs. What would have made it better would be a householder saying, “How clever! Pandemic era nurses after the Trump administration stole their state’s PPE.”

  92. 92.

    Fair Economist

    @Urza: The AI has noticeably downgraded from Civ 4. Civ 5 was not as good, and Civ 6 supposedly was downright bad (it didn’t run properly on my Mac, so no personal experience). They’ve also moved back to city spam – with Civ 4 you always had to evaluate whether you could found another city; with Civ 5 there came a point (generally when you got an ideology) when you could spam away, and then with the Civ 5 spinoff Beyond Earth that point moved to the midgame.

    I’ve had a lot of fun with Old World, which was designed by the Civ 4 lead designer. Civ 7 is on my “read the reviews” list in spite of the truly obscene amount of time I’ve spend playing the Civ series over the decades.

  93. 93.

    Anoniminous

    @Another Scott:

    Intellectual Property theft is now a key bullet point in TechBro business plans.  OpenAI – known primarily for ChatGPT – has flat out said they can’t make money if they can’t steal copyrighted materials.

  95. 95.

    jonas

    @Melancholy Jaques: Sorry if someone’s also explained this and I missed it upthread, but a couple of years ago, she wrote a doctoral thesis at Oxford looking at Victorian-era laws against homosexuality and claimed to find evidence that numerous individuals had been tried and executed for “sodomy.” Well, it turned out that the sentence handed down in most of the trial records — “death recorded” — did not mean they were summarily hanged, but that they were given more or less a suspended sentence with jail time in lieu of death. She had evidently missed this minor legal technicality in the course of her research and, perhaps more astonishingly, so did her readers, and it turned into a humiliating shitshow from which she never recovered. In several instances, she also seemed to claim that men accused of vicious child sex abuse were just being persecuted for homosexuality which was, likewise, not a terribly good look.

  96. 96.

    HumboldtBlue

    In the Lord of the Rings trilogy, Frodo becomes invisible when he puts the Ring on his finger. Well, at banks in the 1970s, this is basically what happened when a woman put a wedding ring on her finger. Her credit cards would no longer work, and the banks wouldn’t count her income as part of the household income. This led to a fight for women’s financial independence that gave rise to the landmark Equal Credit Opportunity Act (ECOA) and the creation of the first women’s banks.

    In honor of the 50th anniversary of ECOA becoming law, we’re looking back at a time when women had to have their husband or father cosign on a credit application. What did it take to pass this landmark legislation? And how did it improve women’s lives in America?

  97. 97.

    Anoniminous

    @Melancholy Jaques: ​
    Surprised to learn Kucinich was running for Ohio 7th CD. Since the current incumbent GOP’er Max Miller won by 55.3% it’s another one of Dennis’ futile endeavors. Miller won the district over the Democrat Matt Diemer (44.6%) by 32,517 actual votes, a hard hill for Matt to climb but at least the Dems put up a candidate. Cook Political Report doesn’t list the seat as competitive

  99. 99.

    A woman from anywhere (formerly Mohagan)

    @Origuy: My mother went to several conferences at Asilomar when I was a kid (she was a HS English teacher), and when I was in HS, took me there for a weekend stay. Beautiful place. When I was young, I thought “a silomar” was another word for conference, until I learned it was the name of a specific conference center.

  101. 101.

    A woman from anywhere (formerly Mohagan)

    @JoyceH: Billie Eilish

    ETA: I saw an article yesterday that linked the #metoo to women’s reaction to Trump’s election and misogyny. The post which blew up #metoo was posted almost exactly a year after the Access Hollywood tape was released.

  103. 103.

    kwAwk

    My thoughts for today.  Nikki Haley made her very weird closing pitch for Donald Trump today in Pennsylvania.  Which is made even more strange since from what she said the other day, she wasn’t invited by Trump to campaign for him, and even classified this as a fatal mistake.

    She started with this:  “You may find Trump noisy”.  Considering this is the head of the political party she hopes to lead in 4 years and a man who has the power to destroy her politically, I’m going to say it is safe to say that ‘noisy’ is a political euphemism which means racist arrogant loudmouth dickhead.  She actually has the audacity to basically say, don’t listen to him.

    She continues with:  “But he understands we’ve got to get this economy turned around,” Haley added. “He understands that we have to fight what’s happening across the border, he understands that we have to be energy dominant, and he understands that we can’t have any more wars.”

    He understands we have to get the economy turned around?   The economy is actually doing fairly good.  Inflation is down.  Interest rates are coming down.  The stock market is strong.  Unemployment is low.  The economy doesn’t need to be turned around Gov Haley, it needs some good tweaking.

    He understands we have to fight what is happening at the border, yet when congress tried to pass legislation to do just that, he killed it.  And deporting millions and millions of people isn’t fighting what is happening at the border.  It’s trying to undo that past.

    He understands we need to be energy dominant.   What the fuck does that mean?  I’ve never heard that before.  We’re no longer shooting for energy independence we’re now dominating   Dominating who?  Whom?

    He understands we can’t have any more wars.   That is a weird fucking flex considering a Democratic President hasn’t started a major war since the mid-1960s.  Joe Biden has started 0 wars and ended 1.  Seems like a pretty damn good record.  No wait, I mean Kamala Harris has started 0 wars and ended 1.  She’s been in charge the past 4 years right?

    But we to give Gov. Haley credit, she’s working with some pretty weak source material with Donald Trump, but still her argument seems to be don’t pay attention to what Donald Trump says, he’s not really going to be President.  He’ll just be our Manchurian candidate like the last time.  He’s there to act as a figure head not really be the President and a distraction and exciter of the base while we pass more boilerplate pro-business, low corporate taxes anti-saving the planet Republican bullshit.  Gov Haley, if people actually turned off their emotions, almost nobody would vote for Trump.  Emotion is his whole schtick.

  104. 104.

    Gloria DryGarden

    Ronny Chieng  “News” and voting promotion activities of note, and if you scroll to 10.00, the last bit is acted by the daily show staff, and is particularly hilarious.

  106. 106.

    MobiusKlein

    In my San Francisco neighborhood, we had a 4 hour long parade of trick or treaters, tons of folks of all ages

    We had a stove heating spiced apple cider, and spiked should a parent need fortifications.

    A fun neighborhood event, and folks drive from all over to take part.

  108. 108.

    Origuy

    @A woman from anywhere (formerly Mohagan):

    But why is there a stag’s head at the top of your sporran?

     
    Because it would poke me in uncomfortable places if it were anywhere else.
    Seriously, it was a gift. I don’t know if a stag’s head on a sporran means something. The fur is supposed to be fox, but I think it’s faux.

  109. 109.

    Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)

    @HumboldtBlue:

    I can’t imagine how they would think this is a good look or somehow “owns the libs”. You’re wearing fucking garbage bags, you look ridiculous!

  110. 110.

    Avalune

    I wish it WAS action combat style but it’s kind of an annoying mix (Dragon Age Veilguard). I do not like having to hit tab to try to tell my party members to do a thing while I’m trying to time a dodge and whatnot. I miss the if then do that system for your party. Eh well.

    Really tested my sit at a computer after surgery tolerance today. :-p

  116. 116.

    HumboldtBlue

    @eclare: ​ 

    I just watched that one as well.

    I gotta say, one great thing about not having kids but having a cat is that I can post my cat’s picture all over the Internet and everyone just melts.

    Noodles is a star!

    Ask Tikka!

  122. 122.

    opiejeanne

    @Origuy: Wow! You look great.

    I made a ball gown for a Scottish ball about 25 years ago, when we lived in the east bay of SF. I never heard where she wore it, but I suspect the client might have regretted her very short haircut. Maybe she wore a nice wig.

  123. 123.

    Ramona

    @jonas: thanks for this explanation. I read some of the comments on LGM and I was wondering what her embarrassing misstep was.

  124. 124.

    Geminid

    @Anoniminous: Rep. Max Miller’s Cleveland area district was represented by Republican Anthony Gonzalez until 2022. Gonzalez was a former Ohio State football star who entered politics after a career in the NFL.

    Gonzalez was considered an “up-and-comer;” a bright, relatively young immigrants’ son. Gonzalez could have held that seat indefinitely, or maybe run for higher office, had he not voted to impeach Donald Trump after the January 6 Insurrection. The chilly reactione from district Republicans convinced Gonzalez1 he had no chance for renomination so he retired.

    Gonzalez replacement Max Miller is a former Trump administration official with one redeeming feature: he’s a strong supporter of Ukraine.

  125. 125.

    Gretchen

    It’s making me nuts that the media is all over Biden’s (who is not running for anything) ambiguous remark about garbage, while Trump said Liz Cheney should face a firing squad with 9 rifles aimed at her face, and for some reason that’s not considered too divisive. That’s just usual political rhetoric, blowing off the face of someone who criticized you. But how dare you say my supporters are garbage. What is happening?

  128. 128.

    What Have the Romans Ever Done for Us?

    @Gretchen: Trump has been calling Democrats vermin, trash, the enemy within and a host of other pejoratives for months if not years now. It’s another ridiculous double standard. I WAS going to keep my WaPo subscription but then they covered the Biden comment front page above the fold and I’m like nope. You dumbasses will never learn or change.

  130. 130.

    dnfree

    @HumboldtBlue: My husband started graduate school in 1968 and we moved to an apartment near the university.  When I called to set up utility service, the gas and electric companies wanted only my husband’s information.  I told them he was not employed and I was, and I would be paying the bills.  It mattered not to them; he was still the responsible party.

    Well into the 1990s medical offices still recorded him as the “responsible party” for my medical bills, even though I had insurance through my employer and paid my own bills.  I don’t know when that stopped.  I argued with them to no avail that I was responsible for my own bills.

  131. 131.

    Kayla Rudbek

    • @dnfree: yeah, I was watching the Ken Burns documentary on Prohibition and I kept thinking that the USA would be better off if the temperance movement had sought financial independence for women instead of creating laws that didn’t work to prevent drinking

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