Come for the politics, stay for the snark.

Insiders who complain to politico: please report to the white house office of shut the fuck up.

Every day Vance writes another chapter in the book called “Worst VP Pick Ever”.

You cannot shame the shameless.

Balloon Juice, where there is always someone who will say you’re doing it wrong.

It could be worse. Vance could have said “post-menopausal sows.” Waiting for that audiotape to surface.

This fight is for everything.

Pelosi: “He either is stupid, or he thinks the rest of us are.” Why not both?

Black Jesus loves a paper trail.

Our job is not to persuade republicans but to defeat them.

if you can’t see it, then you are useless in the fight to stop it.

Maybe you would prefer that we take Joelle’s side in ALL CAPS?

I’m more Christian than these people and I’m an atheist.

The arc of history bends toward the same old fuckery.

A norm that restrains only one side really isn’t a norm – it’s a trap.

Republicans are the party of chaos and catastrophe.

“That’s what the insurrection act is for!”

“The defense has a certain level of trust in defendant that the government does not.”

Relentless negativity is not a sign that you are more realistic.

Battle won, war still ongoing.

Spilling the end game before they can coat it in frankl luntz-approved dogwhistles.

There are a lot more evil idiots than evil geniuses.

Authoritarian republicans are opposed to freedom for the rest of us.

Giving up is unforgivable. ~Joe Biden

I desperately hope that, yet again, I am wrong.

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  2. 2.

    Baud

    Elon Musk

     

    @elonmusk

    A lot of people still don’t believe me when I say that the Dems will do everything in their power to destroy me if they win on Nov 5th

    C’mon. That has to be trolling.

  7. 7.

    Poe Larity

    WTF endorsing after half the country has aleady voted. What’s a nastier way to say Kthxbai?

  10. 10.

    VFX Lurker

    If anyone wants some hope, go to Pizza to the Polls and scroll down to their “Deliveries” section. People are waiting longer than an hour to vote today in Ohio, Pennsylvania, North Carolina, Missouri, Kansas, Florida, Texas and Indiana. (Plus Illinois, New Jersey and New York).

    I’m taking this as a sign of voter enthusiasm.

  11. 11.

    Mai Naem mobile

    I would be happy to see fElon end up like so many TFG lovers – doing some hard time in the big house wondering what happened to him. Also has the benefit of him losing security clearance for the Starlink contracts.

  12. 12.

    bbleh

    FWIW I was at the setup for the Kamapalooza at the Rocky Steps in Philadelphia this Monday, and the entire vibe was good.  Not like energetic yeah-we’re-doin’-this good but a kind of ethereal background HERE IS WINNING good.

    FWIW.

  13. 13.

    Kent

    @Baud:

    @elonmusk

    A lot of people still don’t believe me when I say that the Dems will do everything in their power to destroy me if they win on Nov 5th

    For God’s sake Elon.   I can’t vote harder than I already am.

  14. 14.

    piratedan

    @Baud: I hope it’s prophetic… guy has been dancing on the edge of a knife for a while now with his behavior as a Defense contractor and a Social Media Magnate in throwing his two cents in.  He’s allowed his opinion and an ability to express it.  He’s not owed being a defense contractor the ability to give the government the finger in regards to the use of his product.

    More than happy to see his contracts voided, if his lying on his visa is confirmed, to see his citizenship revoked.  There’s no reason to allow him to dictate to the government if he’s not fulfilled his contracts or lied on his applications.

  15. 15.

    Layer8Problem

    @Baud:

     @elonmusk
    A lot of people still don’t believe me when I say that the Dems will do everything in their power to destroy me if they win on Nov 5th

    I’ll take that as a promise, Mr. Visionary.

  16. 16.

    different-church-lady

    MUSK: Dems will do everything in their power to destroy me if they win on Nov 5th

    “You say that like it’s a bad thing.”

  17. 17.

    NorthLeft

    I’m not a doomer as I have been saying that Harris will win comfortably for awhile now, BUT if you think a landslide win of votes and electoral votes will dissuade Deadbeat Donald from crying steal, you are dead wrong.
    IMO, a crushing victory for Harris will only be jumped on by the MAGAts/Republicans even more to claim the results are fraudulent. They will point to all the current polls and pundits who are saying that the race is virtually tied to say how could she then win by six or seven % points?

    They may even have the chutzpah to say that they would have accepted a close loss (no, they wouldn’t) but just cannot believe a lopsided loss like this.

  21. 21.

    bbleh

    @Poe Larity: @Baud: imho it’s precisely LATE voters — people who just aren’t tuned in, don’t pay attention, may not even vote, and certainly haven’t made up their minds — who may be swayed by endorsements.

    And also imho, AHnold’s endorsement was aimed precisely at men alienated from politics, many of whom are that type of late voter, and who are still very much up for grabs.  I thought it was very cleverly worded, without seeming to be so.

    (He really is a lot smarter than people give him credit for.  Which he cultivates, but still …)

  24. 24.

    Steve LaBonne

    @NorthLeft: I couldn’t care less. They can cry all they want. If Trump incites violence (if?) throw him in jail for violating his terms of release. If some MAGAs want to try something they can join their 1/6/21 compadres in prison.

  25. 25.

    Splitting Image

    @Poe Larity:

    WTF endorsing after half the country has aleady voted. What’s a nastier way to say Kthxbai?

    Schwarzenegger and Frampton are old geezers who remember when everybody voted on Election Day and a last-minute endorsement was the best way to be heard. I’m willing to cut them some slack. I don’t know about Frampton, but Schwarzenegger has been pretty consistently anti-Trump.

    All that matters is running up the score.

  27. 27.

    Mr. Bemused Senior

    @NorthLeft: BUT if you think a landslide win of votes and electoral votes will dissuade Deadbeat Donald from crying steal, you are dead wrong.

    I doubt anyone here will be surprised. I mean, how much clearer can he make it?

  30. 30.

    bbleh

    @zhena gogolia: he also has the ability to laugh at himself, which I would say is an aspect of intelligence, generally construed, but in any case is admirable, not least because it indicates a significant degree of humility.

  31. 31.

    Sister Machine Gun of Quiet Harmony

    I am not always compassionate. Sometimes I get so angry, I feel really mean and want the opposition to suffer. Oddly, I don’t want Musk destroyed, even though he is currently a malign influence. I want him in drug treatment. I want him sober. I want him to realize how much he’s spiraling, face it, and course correct. I want him to realize he isn’t just lonely because he’s rich or famous or whatever. He’s lonely because his bad behavior has driven any good people away from him.

  34. 34.

    Melancholy Jaques

    @VFX Lurker:

    In the last 24 – 48 hours I’ve been swamped with emails and texts asking for donations to Harris/Walz. I really can’t believe they need cash right now. And I haven’t worked in months, so I got no such cash anyway.

    Any links for phone/text banking? I want to do more.

  38. 38.

    Eric S.

    @Kent: I’ve already voted early but fElon is convincing me to exercise my rights as a Chicago citizen to vote often.

  39. 39.

    Ksmiami

    @Mai Naem mobile: to that end I went to an event with sen. Heinrich and told him to go full Teddy Roosevelt on Elon. To which he responded all of the Rt wing billionaires trying to control us.

  40. 40.

    Expletive Deleted

    At least some endorsements are clearly timed on purpose. Keeps stories in the news ever day. Its a good thing.

  41. 41.

    Richard Fox

    I don’t have any reason in my heart of hearts to care what that cadmium orange fellow whose name escapes me does. He will bellow and moan and create mayhem. It’s his DNA. The trick is to not give him oxygen by fretting over it. I sense a grim determination from a vast section of the electorate to rid the country of this clown. That it is being accomplished by a woman of color, of great merit and distinction  at the head of this coalition— is cosmically satisfying.

  46. 46.

    Torrey

    @Poe Larity:

    I see that others have already provided good answers to this post, but I’ll add that it wouldn’t surprise me if the Harris campaign, which has been very well organized so far, has been in touch with possible late endorsers to hit these final-weekend slots. (See bbleh’s insightful remark about late voters and men alienated from politics.) This kind of social media is the equivalent of the old-style late tv/radio/newspaper advertisement, and Harris/Walz has a very good social media team. (See also Expletive Deleted’s comment.)

  47. 47.

    Geoduck

    Some goons in the town of Mount Pleasant, Pennsylvania thought it was a keen idea to enter a local parade with a golf cart featuring a Shaitgibbon-imitator and an automatic weapon, with a Harris-imitator walking behind at the end of a chain and in handcuffs. This did not go over well. Hopefully it will piss off a few more folks into the Harris column.

  48. 48.

    Darkrose

    @Baud: I know he won’t do it, but I so wish Biden woud say, “You know, illegal immigration is a problem. Back to South Africa, jackass!”

  49. 49.

    VFX Lurker

    @Melancholy Jaques: Any links for phone/text banking? I want to do more.

    If possible, consider searching for local/virtual events on Mobilize.us — I’ve seen phone/text banking events listed there before.

    @Kayla Rudbek: as I said below, there was enough of a line to vote here in Fairfax County today that Mr. Rudbek decided to vote later (tomorrow or Tuesday).

    So glad to hear you have massive voter enthusiasm in Fairfax County! I hope Mr. Rudbek has an easier time voting later.

  52. 52.

    SW

    I hope that the antifascist vote clobbers the fascist vote.  Primarily because I want to feel good about the character of the electorate.

  53. 53.

    TheOtherHank

    @Layer8Problem: ​

    It’s pronounced ≣≣≣≣≣Space Force!!!

    I thought it was Spaaaaaaace Fooooooorce! I may have watched too much Space Ghost as a kid

    ETA: It looks like Ken beat me to it.

  54. 54.

    Jeffro

    @NorthLeft: he can whine all he wants…his support (save the blessed crazyifcation factor 27%) is going to evaporate like…like…I dunno.  Like something wet on Tatooine, during the summer!  ;)

    (we just have to – joyously – keep pointing out to the rest of the GOP and our dumb-ass snooze media that they. had. options.  They didn’t have to go along with this shitshow.  They had agency.  But they were too fucking lazy to do anything about it.  OH WELL.  It’s a task I relish and plan on absorbing myself with for at least the next four years if not longer).

     

     

     

    @Steve LaBonne: I think as he swirls the drain, he’ll call explicitly for violence…I hope he gets arrested for it, too.  (If I had more faith in our AG, I’d say “I expect he’ll get arrested for it, too.” but nah)

    Although I think the Arizona AG is looking into the threats he made against Liz Cheney?  We’ll see.

  55. 55.

    Layer8Problem

    @Ken:  Exactly!  Or Duck Dodgers in the Twenty-Fourth and a Half Century!!!  Or Yosemite Sam of Outer Space!!!

  58. 58.

    Wapiti

    @NorthLeft: imo, Trump needs to start focusing on his court cases. He’s got his sentencing scheduled for late November in the NY election fraud case.

  60. 60.

    Jeffro

    @Richard Fox: I sense a grim determination from a vast section of the electorate to rid the country of this clown. That it is being accomplished by a woman of color, of great merit and distinction  at the head of this coalition— is cosmically satisfying.

    110%

    trumpov being dispatched by a woman of color, backed by the most votes in history – including millions of women of color – does make one believe in a higher power.

    (well, temporarily.  but I’ll take it!)

  61. 61.

    Torrey

    @Melancholy Jaques:

      Consider ballot curing phone banking. Thanks to BR and WaterGirl for providing the link. This consists of calling those Democrats who have already voted but whose ballots have an issue that will result in their vote not being counted unless it’s fixed. Fortunately, most of these are easily fixed. What you’ll be doing is letting them know about the problem and telling them to get in touch with their location Election Commission to find out what the problem is and fix it. Sometimes, they can vote a provisional ballot on Election Day, if the absentee or mail-in ballot they submitted isn’t immediately fixable.

    It’s more pleasant than regular phone-banking, since you’re calling people who have tried to vote and who want their votes counted. I did a couple of hours yesterday for Pennsylvania, and it was mostly a matter of leaving messages for the voter. Not at all unpleasant, and while sometimes people can get frustrated if they’ve gotten three or four calls, I didn’t encounter that.

  63. 63.

    Citizen Alan

    @Geoduck: i am morbidly curious as to whether they actually found a black woman willing to participate in this repulsive spectacle, or if the part of kamala harris was played by a white man in drag and blackface.

  64. 64.

    Jeffro

    @Steve LaBonne: here’s hoping!

    The GOP is far too gone as a functioning party to do anything about trumpov swiftly on its own.  But many events (overdue trials, sentencings, long-awaited ‘reveals’ from cowed Republican officials) could overtake…and who knows just how far this clown could fall in a year or less?

    Ah, I’m going to sleep well tonight… =)

  66. 66.

    realbtl

    I’m beginning to think that Dandy Don has passed from mere mying to true delusion. His reality is that he’s already won so the election was stolen. I’m talking real delusional diagnosis. (I do have a Masters in Clinical psych and I know no remote diagnosis but c’mon.)

  69. 69.

    zhena gogolia

    @Citizen Alan: Against my better judgment, I watched the video. The person who’s supposed to be Harris looks white to me and may even be a man. Who knows? It’s pretty disgusting.

  72. 72.

    👻David 🎃Booooooo🎃 Koch💀

    Liz Cheney said that former President George W. Bush needs to make his voice heard on the “danger that Donald Trump poses,” the Daily Beast reports.

    Said Cheney: “I can’t explain why George W. Bush hasn’t spoken out, but I think it’s time, and I wish that he would.”

    Not surprising that Dubya is AWOL

  73. 73.

    Gvg

    @Splitting Image: I think it helps if there is a constant new stream of endorsements as long as it can be managed through the election. In fact I think well organized campaigns try to arrange for the ones they know about to be staggered. But Arnold was a politician for awhile, he wouldn’t need to be told that. He probably just waited till it had been a few days since the last one was in the news to announce. There has been a pretty steady stream for months.

  74. 74.

    Splitting Image

    @Citizen Alan:

    i am morbidly curious as to whether they actually found a black woman willing to participate in this repulsive spectacle, or if the part of kamala harris was played by a white man in drag and blackface.

    If Donald Trump lays on his bronzer any thicker, he could play the part himself. He’s already looking like an Al Jolson impersonator.

  77. 77.

    Citizen Alan

    @zhena gogolia: i think it is a white woman wearing a kamala harris wig. If it is a white man, one wonders what these assholes think about dressing in drag in any other context.

  78. 78.

    sdhays

    @Sister Machine Gun of Quiet Harmony: He’s an awful person, not just a drug addict. Getting sober won’t fix him.

    I would like to see him lose his wealth and his government access and for the world to just ignore him and stop treating him like he’s some brilliant visionary.

  80. 80.

    satby

    OT for a quick thank you to all who contributed to our rescue’s fundraiser for the puppy survivor of domestic abuse. He’s a very sweet boy and loves people in spite of the brutal treatment he received. We don’t deserve dogs.

    Thanks so much, Kato soon will be healed and pain free from his trauma, because you helped.

  81. 81.

    John S.

    @Jeffro:

    If I had more faith in our AG, I’d say “I expect he’ll get arrested for it, too.” but nah.

    Now you’ve done it. We have a very fervent Merrick Garland fan club here.

  82. 82.

    karen marie

    @Baud:  I figured Musk is publicly backing Trump because of the lawsuits that are starting to pile up against him.  When Trump loses, Musk will loudly and continually tell everyone that it’s “political persecution.”

    My dearest wish is that his citizenship get revoked based on the lies he committed to writing on his application and that he’s then thrown out of the country and banned from reentry for ten years.  Sadly, I doubt that will happen.

  86. 86.

    Layer8Problem

    @John S.:  And an equally fervent Garland is a Failure club.  Strangely, some of the lawyers here don’t seem to be on board with that one.

  88. 88.

    cain

    @John S.:

    I’m not a Garland fan, I do understand that it takes time to get things going for someone like Trump. But Elon I do not understand. He’s clearly using his platform in a manner to interfere with elections, violating his terms as a federal contractor – why isn’t there a case against him? I don’t understand that.

  89. 89.

    cain

    @Layer8Problem:

    Garland’s problem is that while he is an institutionalist, I don’t understand his lack of urgency. His agency stands at the precipice of being completely taken over by cultists if project 2025 comes into fruition.

  90. 90.

    Jackie

    Liz Cheney said that former President George W. Bush needs to make his voice heard on the “danger that Donald Trump poses,” the Daily Beast reports.

    Said Cheney: “I can’t explain why George W. Bush hasn’t spoken out, but I think it’s time, and I wish that he would.”

    Nicolle Wallace did a frank facing the camera moment, pleading directly to Dubya to endorse Harris.

    Daughter Barbara Bush endorsed Harris this past week, joining republicans, including Gerald Ford’s daughter, door knocking for Harris last weekend.

    Eta: BOO! Beat by 👻David 🎃Booooooo🎃 Koch💀@#72.

  91. 91.

    catfishncod

    @NorthLeft: as @Baud said, I don’t care what an increasingly demented man believes. And @Steve LaBonne has a point, in that further crimes of insurrection can and should land perps in jail. And it is an absolute dead certainty that fraud and victory will be claimed regardless of anything else.

    I, too, am of the opinion that the uncertainty lies in the margin of victory for H/W, the control of Senate and House, and control of statehouses. I am not terribly concerned about a clear and outright victory for Orangina, Mountain Dew, and Odorous Musk.

    My anxieties are all based around how much the inevitable fraud claims get distributed, and how large and well-organized the violent response to a Harris victory will be.

    I am fully aware that election protection and law enforcement at federal, state, and local levels have been prepping response options. I am also aware that they are keeping those plans secret, so as not to provide the insurrectionists with free OSINT. Thus my anxiety is almost certainly overblown — but until events play out, I can’t know by how much.

  92. 92.

    karen marie

    @Melancholy Jaques: Perhaps at this point, ballot curing might be useful?  Someone else may have a solid, reliable group to connect you to – I know links have been provided in comments to previous  posts.

  93. 93.

    Eolirin

    @cain: State and the DoD don’t want him to pull starlink access in Ukraine, and the US gov is reliant on SpaceX to get their own satellites into orbit. If they go after Musk without having first seized SpaceX, there could be severe consequences.

    And there does not seem to be the political will, in the Biden administration, to seize SpaceX.

  95. 95.

    FastEdD

    Peter Frampton has been consistently a Dem. He has a house in Ohio and got really pissed years ago when MAGAts stole campaign signs off his lawn. Yes, he does feel like we do (cue talk box solo.)

  96. 96.

    A woman from anywhere (formerly Mohagan)

    @VFX Lurker: Simon Rosenberg of Hopium fame has links to all kinds of volunteering opportunities in his daily Hopium .email. The email is free – just sign up. I forget how I did it, but he must have a website.

  98. 98.

    Frankensteinbeck

    @Eolirin:

    there does not seem to be the political will, in the Biden administration, to seize SpaceX.

    Can that even be done?  I’m pretty sure a president can’t just go “Sorry, the government needs that” and take a company.

  99. 99.

    Eolirin

    @Frankensteinbeck: I think there are things that can be done because of the national security implications, but I’m not a lawyer. I’m not sure how it’d work

    They don’t necessarily need to take full control of the company, they just need to be able to bar Musk and any Musk loyalists from having anything to do with it. They could threaten to pull his contracts if he doesn’t resign, but if he calls that bluff, they don’t have a ready replacement at hand and won’t have options for a few more years.

  101. 101.

    Ksmiami

    @Eolirin: the govt  can force divestiture for national security reasons. And they can tell the Starlink board that all contracts will be pulled unless Elon is pushed out. It’s not taking over the company but threatening to destroy its value unless serious shareholder issues are addressed.

  102. 102.

    Layer8Problem

    @cain:  Yeah, what we need is an old fashioned Attorney General who gets things done and doesn’t get mired in procedure, like John Mitchell, or even better A. Mitchell Palmer.

  103. 103.

    Frankensteinbeck

    @catfishncod:

    how large and well-organized the violent response to a Harris victory will be.

    Put that fear away.  It will be tiny and sporadic if it exists at all.  Trump had to be actually in charge and have convinced his followers that they faced absolutely no possibility of repercussions for J6 to happen.  Once the FBI started arresting people, everyone in the “Let’s get our guns!” movement freaked out and they respond to every call for violence with “It’s an FBI plot!”

    Conservatives are chickenshits.  It is one of the fundamental pillars of their movement.  They want to kick a puppy, not fight anyone who even might be able to fight back.

  104. 104.

    catpal

    Tech question – can you access email without using 2 factor authorization? So now Gmail requires a mobile number to text to for account setup?

  105. 105.

    Glyph2112

    Count me as voted in AZ!  Can’t wait for this to be over.  Hopefully this will not be like 2016, but back then I think a lot of people thought Trump was an act.  I drove up to Denver through rural AZ and Colorado 2 weeks ago and was heartened to see almost equal Harris and Trump signs.

    Also, I see a bunch of republicans coming out and endorsing Kamala.  Jeff Flake in AZ, wow.  Can anyone even name someone who voted for Clinton/Biden in the last 2 elections that will be switching to Trump? He certainly isn’t reaching out to try and pull in new voters.

    Still hard to fight the dread of that dipshit winning.

  107. 107.

    Other MJS

    From Heather Cox Richardson yesterday: Trump and the Goopers definitely want to kill Obamacare, plus this about Trump’s Albuquerque rally.

    Trump had to hold the rally at a private airplane hangar after city officials refused to rent the Albuquerque Convention Center to the campaign because it still owes Albuquerque almost $445,000 from a similar rally in 2019.

  108. 108.

    Layer8Problem

    @Eolirin:  “And there does not seem to be the political will, in the Biden administration, to seize SpaceX.”

    The blowback in so doing before a successful election would be counterproductive.  The other side would use it and scream about it, vigorously.

  109. 109.

    Jackie

    Supreme Court rules for Democrats!

    The Supreme Court handed the GOP a blow in a vital battleground state Friday, ruling that Pennsylvania can count backup votes when mail-in ballots are rejected.

    The state’s high court adopted a “controversial interpretation of important provisions” in the state’s election code, the court wrote in its ruling. The court held that a provisional ballot must be counted even if the voter previously submitted an invalid mail-in ballot prior to the deadline.

    https://www.rawstory.com/supreme-court-2669565494/

  110. 110.

    Eolirin

    @catpal: There’s a way to get one time use codes iirc. So there’s options besides texts. You really want that though. It cuts off the vast majority of ways you can have your account compromised.

  114. 114.

    Jay

    @catpal:

    No, not really.

    If it’s GMaiil, you can eventually contact a human, and answer the security questions that you answered when setting up the account, and give them a new text/phone number for the 2nd factor to be sent to,

    If you remember all the answers correctly.

    I found it easier to set up a new email account.

  116. 116.

    Eolirin

    @Layer8Problem: It could have been done a couple of years ago. These are not new problems. The US government has known Musk, who has security clearances, has been in direct contact with Putin for over two years.

    But yes, there would be political consequences. There are also consequences for allowing him to do what he’s been doing though. I’m not sure those things are being weighed appropriately, but it’s not an easy thing to get right.

  117. 117.

    Steve LaBonne

    @Jackie: They’ll do anything for Trump but they won’t do that. Which is a good thing to know going into the post-election period.

  118. 118.

    Tim in Cape Fear

    I ain’t read the whole thing, but please just tell me Ah-nuld did not refer to “terminator” or any of the possible derivatives, at all, because O what a weepin’ and a wailin’ would ensue.

  119. 119.

    Eolirin

    @Jay: I forgot exactly what I did, but there’s definitely a way to access your account without having access to texts, because I’ve had to get access to an android account on a new phone while the old phone was broken, and I eventually succeeded, without contacting support.

    But you do need to be able to access the account *somewhere*.

  120. 120.

    lowtechcyclist

    Elon Musk
    @elonmusk
    A lot of people still don’t believe me when I say that the Dems will do everything in their power to destroy me if they win on Nov 5th

    If I needed any more convincing, Elmo, you just made the sale. Kamala it is!!!!

  121. 121.

    Expletive Deleted

    Am I drunk or did I really just see an article on the Graudian website about Tucker Carson being attacked by a demon?

    it’s been a long few months guys, and I just can’t tell anymore. Not clicking back to find out. Going to sleep.

  123. 123.

    Kent

    @NorthLeft: I’m not a doomer as I have been saying that Harris will win comfortably for awhile now, BUT if you think a landslide win of votes and electoral votes will dissuade Deadbeat Donald from crying steal, you are dead wrong.

    That is true.  But in 2020 he was sitting in the White House with the full power of the Federal government behind him and a bazillion paid staffers and political appointees at his beck and call.  Plus control over DOD, DOJ, OMB, etc.  So he could literally put the entire transition on hold and stop the wheels of government.

    In 2024 if he loses he will be sitting around Mar a Lago stewing away with only a handful of dead enders around him while the Biden Administration proceeds with the transition to the Harris Administration and ignores his whining.

    Enormous difference.  It will be possible to ignore him in 2024, it wasn’t in 2020.

  125. 125.

    lowtechcyclist

    @NorthLeft: ​
     

    I’m not a doomer as I have been saying that Harris will win comfortably for awhile now, BUT if you think a landslide win of votes and electoral votes will dissuade Deadbeat Donald from crying steal, you are dead wrong.

    Well of course! Even if he were to win, he’d be accusing the Dems of stealing some of the states he lost. (He did that in 2016.) So the only possible timeline where TFG doesn’t call ‘steal’ is the one where he keels over and dies just as he’s about to make the accusation.

    We ignore him, celebrate our victory, and let Marc Elias & Co. handle the legal battles. Party on!!

  126. 126.

    hrprogressive

    Kamala can win by 2 EV’s or 400 EV’s and the fascist garbage party won’t consider it legitimate.

    I don’t frankly give a shit about what those people think.

    I do care about what the “establishment” types think. Those who aren’t cultists, but you know, might look the other way at the fascism if it might get them “access” or “clicks” or “profit” aren’t going to go “Gee, Kamala flipped NC, FL, nearly Texas, kept GA, and won handily, wonder if she really won?”

    As decisive a victory as possible must be had.

    “Turning The Page” only truly happens with a massive victory.

  128. 128.

    scav

    @Expletive Deleted: Go to bed, things will indeed make more sense in your dreams and even in a good portion of your nightmares.  Trucker is indeed claiming to bear the marks of demon claws.  Then again, he might have just nodded off in his starched bow-ties again.

  131. 131.

    catfishncod

    @Frankensteinbeck: Oh I’m not worried about a mass push, J6 style. There won’t be any gullible rubes unaware that they’re camouflage for armed assaulters. Whoever participates this time is either indoctrinated enough that no reality will spontaneously penetrate, or is fully aware that they’re out to overturn the election / overthrow the Constitutional order regardless of truth value.

    This suggests two likely mechanisms: (1) stochastic terror/chaos actions by the indoctrinated, and (2) targeted attacks by committed fascists, whether foreign or domestic.

    Dont forget that there are at least two current wars, and possibly a third potential war, whose outcome is likely to turn on the result of this election.

  133. 133.

    sab

    Very OT and mornings might be better.

    Extreme luddite here. Less so when younger, but life used to be simpler and I am fed up by that. Meanwhile…

    I adopted two of satby’s rescues. BJ and the prior owner (daughter of deceased owner) need proof of life and also photos. The cats are absolutely lovely although wary. So they came from a very kind caring home and find us a shock. We and our cats are kind and caring but we already have a cat social structure and had five cats. Newbies sort of welcome. So now they are not center of someone’s world. But they are working on it.

    I haven’t had a decent funtional camera for fifty years. My cellphones have and every iteration is more useless.

    So I need a not expensive camera that I can somehow load pictures from onto the internet to prove satby’s cats are still alive and possibly even happy.

    I have a computer internet connection. My cellphone is a flip phone whose latest software iteration does not allow me to send photos anywhere.

    Husband and the elegant (and huge, gentle) Solomon get along nicely. Husband refuses to endanger his relationship with Solomon by snapping pictures. ( He has an iphone.)

    Echo mostly hides under bed and crawls in with me at night. I am sure I could bribe her with treats into daylight photography.

    Advice is much needed. Internet friendly inexpensive camera

  135. 135.

    karen marie

    @Other MJS:  Apparently Trump wanted to use the parking lot of the amphitheater but the State of New Mexico wouldn’t let him because rules, plus he still owes the City of Albuquerque half a mil from 2019 (a good part of it is accumulated interest).  Individual-1 supporters are not mad at Individual-1 because of the parking mess, of course, they’re blaming the city and state authorities.  Stupid motherfuckers.  They’re just mad because they know how well Trump organizes return shuttles.

    “The abandonment by the shuttles [at Coachella] echoed Trump’s 2020 campaign rallies, when his supporters were stranded at multiple events by the shuttle services and had to walk back to their vehicles alone, sometimes in freezing cold and snow.”

  137. 137.

    CHETAN R MURTHY

    @sab: I might buy a “shitphone” — a very cheap android phone and just use it on Wi-Fi.  So no need for a mobile plan.  I suspect you could get one for $20 or so.  Maybe you could get one used or a castoff from a friend?  Seriously, don’t pay much.

  138. 138.

    Ruckus

    The only thing that bothers me is that the closest polling place to me, where I’ve voted for a number of years now, doesn’t open till tomorrow. There are 2 farther away that opened on Monday.

    Oh well tomorrow is soon enough….

  140. 140.

    sdhays

    @Frankensteinbeck: Since every accusation is a confession, their accusation that Haitians are eating pets certainly suggests you shouldn’t take your eyes off your puppies and/or kittens when Republicans are around.

  141. 141.

    TS

    Just found out from an earlier thread that Hugh Hewitt quit the post – they might get a few subscribers back after that one leaving.  Has to be something positive to come out of the MSM.

  143. 143.

    catfishncod

    @Kent: @hrprogressive: Between the two of you, you’ve put the finger on the problem.

    It will be possible to ignore him in 2024, it wasn’t in 2020.

    It will be possible. But will Our Modern Media actually do so? If Orangina is treated as a demented failure howling at the moon, we’ll likely see far less disruption. But absent a crushing victory, what’d’ya think the chances of that are?

  148. 148.

    RationalMAN

    Elon Musk

    @elonmusk

    A lot of people still don’t believe me when I say that the Dems will do everything in their power to destroy me if they win on Nov 5th

    I am not surprised that Musk’s white South African education did not properly teach him about Democracy.

    Musk claims about FREE SPEECH but DOES NOT seem to understand that fascists, dictators, oligarchy do not support or allow FREE SPEECH.

    Democracy allow and protect FREE SPEECH.

    Democracy FIRST, then

  150. 150.

    Misswhatsis

    An old friend who was not going to vote because of Gaza just texted me to ask where he could phone bank for the Dems this weekend. There’s a vibe for you.

  151. 151.

    TS

    @VFX Lurker:

    I’ve never forgotten people waiting to vote in Florida 2008 – after the result of the election was known. Be interesting to see the lines on election day because it is always the democrats who have the minimal voting places in the republican states.

  152. 152.

    dmsilev

    @sab: Honestly, easiest thing would be for you to borrow your husband’s smartphone. Standalone cameras have really fallen by the wayside over the last several years as phones have eaten up their market niche. Most dedicated cameras are for photography enthusiasts and are going to be way overkill for what you want.

  154. 154.

    Starfish

    @bbleh: He is extremely smart, made a lot of money off of real estate, brought us joy through the pandemic with his miniature donkey and his miniature horse, and dunks on body builders who use steroids.

  156. 156.

    Jackie

    @UncleEbeneezer: This just popped up:

    An Erie County, Pennsylvania judge ruled that up to 17,000 voters who still haven’t received their requested mail-in ballots will be able to vote early in person at the county board of elections office starting today through Monday, Nov. 4.

    The Pennsylvania Democratic Party — which sued the county board on Wednesday — secured an emergency injunction this afternoon after alleging that somewhere between 10,000 and 20,000 voters who requested mail-in ballots still haven’t received them.

    Link gives dates/hours:

    https://www.democracydocket.com/news-alerts/tens-of-thousands-of-voters-in-pennsylvania-county-never-received-their-mail-in-ballots/

  157. 157.

    frosty

    @sab: I have a Sony a6000 which is probably more camera than you want but I think I saw it at Best Buy for ~$240 awhile ago. The reason I mention it is that it saves the pictures on a SD Card. Pull it out, plug it into a SD/USB adapter, copy your pictures to your hard drive. Done.
    The reason I mention it is that the internet is not always the easiest way to transfer data. This method isn’t “internet friendly”; it’s a lot easier. Sony had some kind of software for transferring pix either by a cable or wifi. Too complicated for Luddite me.​

  160. 160.

    Scout211

    Lose some and win some.

    Score one for SCOTUS.

    DOYLESTOWN, Pa. (AP) — The Supreme Court on Friday rejected an emergency appeal from Republicans that could have led to thousands of provisional ballots not being counted in Pennsylvania as the presidential campaigns vie in the final days before the election in the nation’s biggest battleground state.

    The justices left in place a state Supreme Court ruling that elections officials must count provisional ballots cast by voters whose mail-in ballots were rejected.

    The ruling is a victory for voting-rights advocates, who had sought to force counties — primarily Republican-controlled counties — to let voters cast a provisional ballot on Election Day if they had realized that their mail-in ballot was to be rejected for various garden-variety errors.

    As of Thursday, about 9,000 ballots out of more than 1.6 million returned have arrived at elections offices around Pennsylvania lacking a secrecy envelope, a signature or a date, according to state records.

  162. 162.

    Torrey

    @satby:

    OT for a quick thank you to all who contributed to our rescue’s fundraiser for the puppy survivor of domestic abuse. He’s a very sweet boy and loves people in spite of the brutal treatment he received. We don’t deserve dogs.

    Thanks so much, Kato soon will be healed and pain free from his trauma, because you helped.

    Thanks for putting up the request information and for the update. It was a good time to be able to do something so positive for just a few bucks.

  165. 165.

    Wave Function Collapse

    @Eolirin:

    SpaceX is a private company, which complicates things.

    But run by a very capable woman who would do an even better job if the current owner weren’t around to meddle.

    IMO SpaceX relies on government contracts much less than most casual observers claim. At the same time, there are innumerable regulatory and legal levers that could be brought to bear. All of the institutional an big money creditors would be an obvious place to start, but slow-walking launch licenses or any other legit administrative pain points would work too.

  166. 166.

    hrprogressive

    @catfishncod: ​
     

    The thing is, Kent makes a great point.

    In 2020 the man was still the sitting POTUS until he finally left. He had to be convinced to leave. He tried a coup that didn’t quite work out for him, so he left to campaign again.

    In 2024, Joe Biden has the reigns of the federal government until January, 2025. Convicted Felon Donald Trump does not hold any levers of power the same way he did 4 years ago.

    While we can all have a lot of misgivings about what Biden has or hasn’t done, and Adam’s misgivings about people like Wray and Garland holding power and their ties to the Federalist Society and whatnot…

    Biden is ultimately the CIC and in charge up until he hands over the keys to Kamala.

    In such a scenario, “the coup would have to come from within the Biden White House” which…I just don’t see that happening, but I suppose someone, somewhere, has considered it “a possibility”.

    If Trump is crushed by 350+ EV’s, I think even the vast majority of our shithole media will print some reasonably milquetoast “VP Harris Makes History” headline, and call it a day.

    Some of them will obviously focus on what the Private Florida Man is doing or saying, but at this point, who the fuck cares?

    He and his fascist backers can, and will, say and do what they are going to.

    My only hope is that if things really go ‘sideways’

    1) The Biden/Harris Admin does what needs to be done to defend the People’s Seat of Government, and

    2) Ordinary Citizens do not let their actions stand, either.

    TBD on both, obviously.

    But CFDT not having the actual power of the federal government in his scrawny little hands does make a material difference to this election, in a good way.

  167. 167.

    Ruckus

    @sab:

    I haven’t used a camera in a while so I don’t have any suggestions other than rather than buy a camera or buy a new cell phone. The camera in my cellphone takes a not bad picture for home use and downloads to my computer if I want it to. But I’m also an Apple user, phone and computer and I can easily transfer one to the other. I’d say iPhone other than camera, you’ll likely get far more use out of the phone.

  168. 168.

    👻David 🎃Booooooo🎃 Koch💀

    Kamala walking off Air Force Two looking like a badass, ready to slay some vampires (photo)

  170. 170.

    Gvg

    @sab: I looked on my Craigslist to see if used phones or cameras might work and found something called an action camera with WiFi connection. It’s a camera for filming sports videos then uploading to the internet. Googling I found they go for around $35 new from Walmart. There are many. You use a memory chip. It’s kind of like a GoPro. Most of them are waterproof. They seem to use an ap. Not sure how your flip phone would like that but maybe you have a laptop or tablet? Trying camera WiFi on Walmart mostly brought up home security indoor monitors, which at first I thought no, but they are mostly $20 and use an ap too. They mention pet monitoring. Maybe if you can save the video (read packages) this would be a better way to get proof of life anyway. Then there are baby/pet monitors at about the same price which also connect to home WiFi.

    if this doesn’t appeal, Craigslist does have old cameras and phones.People upgrade their phones by getting other peoples used ones. Also how about family? Maybe someone is getting ready to upgrade and you could get their non flip? If you want to and we’re thinking about it.

  171. 171.

    Jay

    @Ruckus:

    And you don’t have to buy new, or get a “locked phone”. When my IPhone 6 died, (battery, charging port), I bought a used IPhone 11 from a reputable shop that buys and reconditions used phones.

    I am happy with it, because it has a bigger screen. Easier on my old eyes.

  174. 174.

    M31

    lol can’t wait for the NYT to start the “what President Harris MUST do to win over Trump voters?” a 40 part series, and numerous roundtable discussions moderated by Newt Gingrich

  177. 177.

    different-church-lady

    Very weird to wander over to DailyKos for the first time in years and see it full of optimism.

  180. 180.

    206inKY

    Knocked on my 700th door today and feeling very good about this cycle. So many split household voters where I suspect the deadbeat boyfriend is too lazy to vote. (I am horrified by the apparent army of Gen Z white guy republicans.)

    Also Kentucky’s horrible Amendment 2 (allowing vouchers) seems to be generating a decisive “no” with voters who are still waffling on the local races, so I’m hopeful the “no” vote will outpace Democrats statewide. One voter says he is undecided on the local election but knows one thing for sure: “I’m not voting for Hitler.”

  181. 181.

    Baud

    @206inKY:

    One voter says he is undecided on the local election but knows one thing for sure: “I’m not voting for Hitler.”

     

    Nice.

  183. 183.

    Bill Arnold

    @Baud:

    A lot of people still don’t believe me when I say that the Dems will do everything in their power to destroy me if they win on Nov 5th

    C’mon. That has to be trolling.

    Some of us will do things in our power to destroy Elon Musk regardless of the outcome of the election.

    Surface Detail, a 2010 novel by Iain M. Banks has a very wealthy industrialist, Joiler Veppers, who might be a better model for Mr. Musk (who is an IM Banks fan) than Hugo Drax in Moonraker.
    His adversaries include a Culure warship, Falling Outside the Normal Moral Constraints.
    Link is to tvtropes, because it has clickable spoilers.

  184. 184.

    JMG

    I think the rulings of the Supremes indicate a sense of “we’d like to help, Donald, but you gotta do better than that.” Considering the quality of lawyers he pays, I don’t know if he can.”

    As far as winning goes, take it from an old sportswriter. It’s great to win big, but it’s just as great to win by a little. Just win, baby.

  189. 189.

    KatKapCC

    @NorthLeft: He can cry all he wants. He can try another coup and I’m sure plenty of his loser minions will go along, but way fewer than last time. They saw people go to jail for his ass while he waddled free. Not as many people will be so eager to go for that again. And let’s remember…sentencing still awaits this piece of shit. And Merchan can be even more DGAF about it once Trump loses.

  190. 190.

    Ohio Mom

    @sab: It is true that Ohio Dad has no idea how to use my iPhone and I have no idea how to use his Android. But in a pinch, I bet either of us could master the other’s phone, at least the most basic stuff.

    Don’t you have grown kids nearby and can’t they or one of their kids be enlisted one afternoon as a photographer? As an added bonus,
    I am sure they would be adept at downloading the photos and sending them off to WaterGirl. We may not need children anymore to work on the farm but a lot of us need ‘em to troubleshoot our technology.

  194. 194.

    Chet Murthy

    @sab: Another idea: do you have a computer that does zoom?  Get somebody who -has- a smartphone, to volunteer to zoom with you; introduce them to your new kitties, and they can take a pic of the screen for each, then mail them to you.  You can just forward that email to WaterGirl (or the people who need to see the pics).

  196. 196.

    Chet Murthy

    @different-church-lady: Who can?  I’ve been a UNIX computer-jock since 1982.  Been programming professionally on UNIX since 1986.  I was there when the Internet started commercially.  And I barely scratch the surface of my smartphone.  Just like everybody else.

  197. 197.

    Chet Murthy

    @sab: Heck, if you can Zoom, I’d volunteer to take the pics of your moggies.  Zoom, Google Meet, whatever works.

  200. 200.

    different-church-lady

    @Chet Murthy: ​OK, what’s with that? I thought I was the only one. I’m a wiz on the laptop, but after 10 years of a smartphone I still just kinda poke at the thing until it does something resembling what I needed it to do. Something very different about the interface that just doesn’t work the way my brain does.

  201. 201.

    Jay

    @different-church-lady:

    Define “master”. I can use the phone, text, email, camera, Internet, photo album, and that’s all I use it for.

    Don’t know how to airdrop, use any of the apps aside from GPS, Settings and Calculator.

  203. 203.

    different-church-lady

    @Jay: ​I finally started to figure out AirDrop about a month ago. It rocks when it works, but the thing I realized is that there’s three different settings for who you can allow to hit you, and most people don’t know where to find the switch or how they have it set.

    I did this neat trick where I had a QR code with a link to my vCard — others could just take a photo off my phone and it would load up the card on theirs. But one day it just stopped working and I haven’t been able to puzzle out why.

  204. 204.

    Melancholy Jaques

    @M31:

    Every cable network will have a Republican guest making tht same argument within 15 minutes of Harris being declared the winner. They will use non-MAGAs like Kasich.

  205. 205.

    Nettoyeur

    @zhena gogolia: Ah yes Trump’s Space Force…..that Senator Jockstrap Tuberville thought he had nailed for his part time state of Alabama. ..until he pissed off Biden and the military brass by blocking promotions …because they insisted on protecting military women’ reproductive care.  The superfluous Space Force remains on a Colorado Air Force base, where it belongs, complete with its own uniforms for the Guardians of the Galaxy. Makes it easier to reabsorb into the USAF.

  206. 206.

    Princess

    I just learned that someone I thought was a sure bet for a Gaza protest vote has been canvassing in PA. I don’t think Stein has canvassers so I think this person must be voting Harris and I’m glad.

  209. 209.

    Chet Murthy

    @different-church-lady: This a theory, and it is mine:

    I think that we all fail to understand the ….. low-bandwidth nature of a mouse (or a touchscreen — same diff) as compared to a keyboard.  And furthermore, computers -started out- with text-mode input, so everything  has always been available via keyboard, even as many of the same things were available via mouse/screen.  And last, the UI changes from version-to-version of these smartphone operating systems, whereas the text-mode commands ….. don’t change for literal human generations.

    So when you master a thing from the keyboard, it stays mastered.  When you master a thing on a UI (esp.smartphone) it might change next week, or next month,  but for sure, within a year you gotta figure it all out from scratch.  And this is true about desktop UIs too: from version to version of the KDE desktop, everything changes!  A shit-ton changes from version-to-version of the Chromeos UI, too.

  210. 210.

    UncleEbeneezer

    @hrprogressive: Also too, anything Trump tries now will have no possibility of Executive Immunity.  There’s no question of Official vs. Unofficial since he is nothing more than a civilian running for office.

  211. 211.

    Melancholy Jaques

    Why is every right-winger on twitter screaming about Bucks County? Trump lost Bucks County both times.

  212. 212.

    karen marie

    @Chet Murthy: Your theory fails for keyboard mastery as well.  I have had to learn new keystrokes for the same tasks multiple times over the last 30 years because of “improvements” in software.  In too many cases, unless I create a macro, I’m forced to use a mouse.  Sometimes I fucking HATE “progress.”

  213. 213.

    Bill Arnold

    @Eolirin:
    Default gmail has done a sort of ad-hoc 2FA for a while, pushing a “are you trying to log in?” query to another device like a tablet with gmail and already logged in, if available. (This is configurable if there are multiple such devices.)
    I once accidentally caught a very interesting login attempt that way.

  215. 215.

    Chet Murthy

    @karen marie: Ah …. well, I meant the keyboard commands that you dump into a terminal window.  Not the “keyboard shortcuts” that companies put into UI programs — the ones that you can see in the drop-down menus.  The “keyboard shortcuts” are every bit as changeable as the UIs themselves.

    I started programming on CRT terminals, when 20 terminals would be connected via serial cables to a single computer that had a hundredth the power of the smartphone in my pocket, and we would do all our labs, including operating system emulators, on that one machine.  So CLI (“command line interface”) was all we knew.  And to this day, when it comes time to do something on my computer, if there’s a way to do it with a CLI, that’s how I do it

    ETA: and since my computer runs Linux, there is -always- a CLI way to do it.  *grin

  217. 217.

    NotMax

    @different-church-lady

    Have a second one, incompatible with U.S. phone carriers, with a larger and better screen* which I use as a small tablet for things such as watching downloaded programming from Netflix, Prime and/or MHz Choice while traveling by plane. Also to listen to music via wired** or wireless earpieces while I’m waiting in places such as the car dealership while vehicle is being serviced.

    *Got it at an affordable fire sale price.

    **Yes, iPhone people, the headphone jack is alive and well on Android.

  219. 219.

    Chet Murthy

    @NotMax: “the headphone jack is alive and well on Android.”

    Less and less so.  My latest phone (Pixel 7, so at least a year old) lacks one.  My sib complains bitterly that all the late-model Android phones she can find lack the jack; she goes camping and likes to play music for hours at night.  When she does that with a late-model Android phone, either with an adapter, or via Bluetooth, it drains the battery like nobody’s business.  So she uses an old/old/old phone, but eventually it’ll die, and she can’t buy a replacement that’s that old.  She is bitter.

  221. 221.

    Eolirin

    @Chet Murthy: Very little in the way of software, outside of professional suites or complex line of business apps requires very much effort to figure out if you have a basic grasp on how to navigate common UX design patterns.

    I will grant that getting to that point is not that much easier than learning a foreign language to the point of fluency, as opposed to memorizing stock phrases.

    But you can give anyone who’s gotten that down in their bones novel software or significant UX changes and they can figure it out by playing with it for a few minutes. Unless it’s like Excel level complex or something

    One of the problems with smartphone apps is that they aren’t very transparent, and the mobile operating systems are also very limited in terms of how users can interact with them, so stuff can break with no real way to tell if the issue is something you can troubleshoot or if it’s a bug that got pushed down in an update.

  222. 222.

    karen marie

    My horrible dog is lying on the floor beside me at my desk, sound asleep and dreaming about ripping open another garbage bag and spreading coffee grounds and egg shells all over the kitchen.  I can tell because she’s making a pawing motion.

    I’m very annoyed with her at the moment.  Five years I’ve lived in this apartment, and five years I’ve hung doubled plastic grocery bags on one bottom cabinet handle for “wet” trash and another bottom cabinet handle for recycling.  Yesterday, after I fell and broke my wrist, she decided to destroy the “wet” trash bag.  Not just once, not just twice, but three fucking times.  Why?  Why would she do this?  She’s 15 years old, and I have NEVER had trouble with her about trash.

    This afternoon, after I had solved the problem by relocating the “wet” trash (now in a small bin), she started tearing at the recycling bag!  I rinse everything, so there’s nothing delicious in there.  A few months ago, when I described some new somewhat peculiar change in behavior, her vet said she may  be in the early stages of dementia.  Could that be what’s driving  her sudden interest in trash diving?

  223. 223.

    different-church-lady

    @Chet Murthy: ​Camping? I do it occasionally and I’ve noticed that when I’m in areas of fringe reception it’s the constant searching for cell reception combined with cold that are the things that zap the battery. I finally solved it by putting the phone in airplane mode overnight.​

  224. 224.

    Chet Murthy

    @Eolirin: In 2000 a friend asked me to help him with his little startup thingie.  He was working on server software, but needed a UI to drive it.  So I wrote him one in (drum roll) GTK-Perl (for those of you who what what that is, you’re rollin’ yer eyes with how geeky that is).  When he got bought, the company hired a real UX designer, and when she saw what I’d written, she asked my friend if she could keep a copy, to use as an example of how NOT to design any UI ever, ever, EVER.  *grin

  225. 225.

    Scout211

    Has this been posted yet?  Elon done got slapped down to state court.

    PHILADELPHIA (AP) — A legal fight over Elon Musk’s $1 million-a-day voter sweepstakes is back in state court in Pennsylvania, a loss for the billionaire, after a federal judge said Friday that he doesn’t have jurisdiction.

    Philadelphia District Attorney Larry Krasner wants to keep his fight to shut down the giveaways in state court, calling it a violation of state lottery laws. Musk had argued that the case belonged in federal court as it involves claims of federal election interference. A judge scheduled a hearing for 10 a.m. Monday. It wasn’t immediately clear whether Musk would attend though Krasner previously argued that Musk should have to appear in court.

    . . .

    With just days to go until Tuesday’s presidential election, the case now returns to Judge Angelo Foglietta, who held a brief hearing Thursday in a courtroom at Philadelphia City Hall. No further hearings were immediately scheduled.

  226. 226.

    Bill Arnold

    @Nettoyeur:

    Makes it easier to reabsorb into the USAF.

    There is no Air in space!
    Anyway, the Constitution of the USA does not mention an “Air Force”; it and the Space Force should probably be (re-)absorbed into the Army and Navy, respectively.
    :-)

  227. 227.

    wjca

    @bbleh: yeah, but he ALWAYS over-promises and under-delivers.

    Here’s hoping TCFG under-delivers reputations on the post-election law suits.  Perhaps Musk decides not to keep pouring money down the rathole that is Trump’s legal bills.  Or maybe the supply of incompetent lawyers who want to trash their reputations runs dry.  Whatever.

  230. 230.

    NotMax

    @Chet Murthy

    Might consider looking into new or previous year phones from OnePlus. Models from fancy-schmancy to relatively inexpensive (but not cheaply made), all, AFAIK with a jack.

  231. 231.

    lowtechcyclist

    @WaterGirl: ​
     

    I hope that’s not like the taco trucks on every corner, that never materialized.

    IIRC, the taco trucks were the good time they were threatening us with if Hillary won. But she lost, so no taco trucks.

  232. 232.

    TBone

    @Scout211: YESSSSS!

    Take that, fElon!  Kapow!

    Krasner has said he could still consider criminal charges, as he’s tasked with protecting both lotteries and the integrity of elections.

  239. 239.

    Layer8Problem

    @moonbat: I loved those guys.  And I meant Ludlum but I said Ludlam and now everybody’s gonna think I meant Charles instead of Robert.  There’s not enough non-Almond Joy leftover Halloween candy to salve that gaffe so I’m just going to go to bed.

  242. 242.

    Marc

    @Chet Murthy:  I started programming on CRT terminals, when 20 terminals would be connected via serial cables to a single computer that had a hundredth the power of the smartphone in my pocket, and we would do all our labs, including operating system emulators, on that one machine.

    You young kids had it easy, I started out on ASR-33 Teletypes terminals with paper tape punch/readers, 16 simultaneous users on a PDP-8 with 32K  words of 12 bit memory and a 64K word hard disk.  Then again, my mom’s first job after college was programming MIT’s first (vacuum tube) digital computer, Whirlwind I, she had to write machine code on a paper form which a technician would wire up on a plug board, primary output device was a newly invented Polaroid camera pointed at an oscilloscope.

  243. 243.

    MinuteMan

    @Baud:  A lot of people still don’t believe me when I say that the Dems will do everything in their power to destroy me if they win on Nov 5th ​
     

    Has to be (though with the Muskrat reality is stranger than fiction), though it has to be one of the best vote-for-Harris bits I’ve seen.

    In any case, left to his own devices, Elmo will destroy himself and those foolish enough to buy/invest with him.

  244. 244.

    I gotta get out of this place

    @piratedan: nationalize Starlink. Supreme Court says the prez can do whatever she wants – and it’s an important security asset. Then deport the a**hole.

    oops, watergirl got there first with the nationalize idea

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