Great post by Adam below.
So I ate something. I had picked up chinese yesterday was too nervous to eat and then too sick to my stomach to eat, was not hungry all day, and just ate something, so that is good. I also am pushing back my trip a day. Earlier I was in the kind of mood to just drive into a concrete underpass at 80 mph, but that was quickly replaced with rage at pretty much everything. Regardless, I didn’t sleep last night and am not going to sleep well tonight, and I just don’t want to put other people at risk with distracted driving tomorrow. I will leave on Friday.
I have already cruised through being upset about the election so am now straight into the anger phase, where I suspect I will stay until November 2028. Fuck Donald Trump.
War for Ukraine Day 987: Adjustments & Changes
Adam L Silverman
That guy is making me look bad.
twbrandt
I’m alternating between white-hot rage, numbness, and utter bafflement.
clay
I’m where you were. I’ve had a stomach ache since last night. Couldn’t sleep because of it, and I could only eat half my dinner tonight.
All I feel like doing is nothing. Even my distractions hold no interest for me right now. I think about my two teenage daughters and get upset at the world that had been created for them.
I’m pretty sure I’m low key depressed. At this point, shifting to anger would be nice, but I can’t manage it yet.
Jackie
I couldn’t watch Kamala’s speech today. I couldn’t watch more than two minutes of news very sporadically today. I’m pissed and gutted, and I don’t expect these emotions to go away any time soon. I forced myself to eat a little today; I’m one who loses my appetite when stressed or upset or pissed, so triple whammy on the appetite.
John, take care of yourself during this time. I’m going to try and practice what I preach, too.
Lily
Still can’t sleep. Harris’s talk was good, finally cried for a minute, but also surreal. Trp and Vance are a curse on this land.
NotMax
Keep in mind it’s a holiday weekend so there’ll be extra traffic on the roads.
Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)
I think the most sickening thing I saw was on a YouTube community post from an hour ago for creators I follow announcing they were moving from Twitter to BlueSky. Some asswipe in the comments was saying “No need to be overly-dramatic or butthurt, nobody is going to lose their rights or be caged or tortured.”
I don’t know if this person is just that delusional/privileged or they’re trolling, but I’m mad it got 14 up votes in like an hour and was one of the higher up voted comments on the post. Are a lot of the up votes on social media like YouTube (even these community posts) a result of bots?
NotMax
“I’m shocked — shocked — to find there’s fascism going on here.”
Too soon?
prostratedragon
I went immediately to cold fury. It is fortunate that I’m unlikely to encounter any sfb voters who randomly pop off about it to me. Checking out some of the Bulls @ Mavs game (Bulls are far from ready for primetime) and note that Mark Cuban seems deeply introspective despit his team being up nearly 30.
KatKapCC
Because my partner and I both have various health concerns, neither of us can safely go without eating. But all day we both stuck to the blandest stuff we could. Tea and toast for breakfast, she had half a cheese sandwich for lunch and I had a few apple slices and crackers, and I made matzo ball soup for dinner. Feels like I’m back in college. But trying to force anything else down felt impossible.
NotMax
@Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)
Russbots.
/SATSQ
NotMax
FYI, Hawaii voted 61% for Harris/Walz, 37% for those other guys.
Anotherlurker
Alright. I have calmed down enough to visit here again to ask a question..
How easy/difficult will it be for the rancid assholes to carry out their looting of this country ?
I apologize if this has been asked already.
KatKapCC
@Anotherlurker: Incredibly easy. Who the hell is going to stop them?
Jackie
@NotMax: I’m sad, but finally realizing that even Democrats won’t fully support a woman for president. I thought better of my Party.
I give credit to Republicans openly rejecting a woman as president. They are more honest than Democrats in this case.
Soprano2
I mostly stayed away from people today, because most of the people I work with who voted would have voted for the Orange Asshole. They know better than to approach me! I did find out that the guy who cleans our office didn’t vote for him, and voted for the first time to vote against him. I went to Jazzercize after work (I needed it!), then came home, fed the dog and cat, then laid down on the couch because I was exhausted. I slept from 6:00 to 9:15! Now we’re eating some canned chicken noodle soup because I need something easy on the stomach. I feel so, so sick about what I know is coming.
KatKapCC
@Jackie: There is a lot more misogyny among our side than most of us want to admit.
dr. luba
I haven’t slept well since Sunday night. Hope to crash tonight, somehow.
Have been arguing with idiots on FB today–especially “new” Ukrainian immigrants who think Trump is great. They’re a bunch of money-grubbing “economic” immigrants who fucked off from Ukraine since independence to make money in the west. And are racists who like Trump because he’s not black like Kamala. Fuckers don’t care what happens to Ukraine–Trump will bring “peace,” they tell me.
And, of course, with old school Ukrainian Republicans who put (Republican) party above country (Ukraine), despite being such big Ukrainian patriots.
Also not sure if I’ll be attending Thanksgiving with the extended family this year.
Thor Heyerdahl
First time I’ve been on here in 24 hours.
I have no time to waste on the political thunderdome idiots. There will be a recession that will shine a Klieg light on Trump’s sheer incompetence (they always show up with Republican control).
I strive to be positive and push forward.
“Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning.” Churchill
Kelly
More Daisy to ease your troubled minds. We went to Silver Falls State Park this afternoon. Her second walk on a public trail. She needs a lot of practice walking politely a heel. I had her sit at the side of the trail every time someone came by. She’d wait politely about half the time. When folks would tell her she was a beauty she wanted to jump on them to thank them. Kept the leash short on those encounters which worked well.
https://bsky.app/profile/northsantiam.bsky.social/post/3lacy7fghaf2o
Ryan
Let’s hope and work to make incompetence prevails once again.
Jay
@Kelly:
Thank you for that.
KatKapCC
I will say — the one tiny little bright spot is that Sarah McBride will become the first openly trans member of Congress. That’s a good thing. I don’t know how easy it was for her to celebrate it, but I hope she did at least a bit.
Dr. Regina Phalange
I have been a long time lurker. I am only saying something tonight because I appreciate the “safe” spaces that John and Betty and WG and so many others here provide. I look forward to interacting with everyone more. Thanks for having this space.
Also, I am on Bluesky with this handle. I have followed some on here so that is me if you saw it in the last couple days. Feel free to find me there! Will be needing more support on there going forward :)
surfk9
@NotMax:
Great vote!
I am going to Oahu on Friday. I am going there to pay my respects to my father who is interred at the Punch Bowl. He was a veteran of WWII, Korea, Vietnam. At his original funeral the dress code was Hawaiian shirts for the men and moo-moos for the women. Can you tell me where I can get a really nice Hawaiian shirt in Honolulu?
The Truffle
@KatKapCC: Wisconsin’s Supeeme Court gained Dem seats. North Carolina has a Dem governor and lieutenant governor. Seven states voted to enshrine abortion rights at the state level. New York Dems flipped House seats.
It isn’t all bad. Dems need to focus on local and state races more.
Whatever you do, avoid Daily Kos. Unless you love doomscrolling.
wjca
“Who” may not stop them. “What,” on the other hand, might.
The thing is, if you loot the way they seem likely to, you trash the economy. In particular, the parts you were too isolated/insulated to be conscious of. But they are parts you can’t really do without.
Of course, you could just loot and run for another country. But if your wealth is tied up in assets here, and nobody elsewhere wants them (including US dollars)? Oops.
Jackie
@KatKapCC:
I’m finally realizing that. My upbringing was skewed by my father being so pro woman. He was born in 1918. He had three daughters, starting with me, in 1955. He supported Roe v Wade, supported birth control outside of marriage and not needing parental permission for minors… I truly thought Dad embodied what Democratic men stood for regarding equal rights for ALL.
Dad’s last presidential election he voted for Hillary. He was devastated when Trump beat her.
I always knew Dad was extraordinary when it came to equal rights and opportunities for women, but until today, it didn’t truly sink in that Dad truly was one in a million.
MobiusKlein
Fuck Trump, Joe Rogan, Vance, Theil, Elon, Melania, Newt Gingrich, and fucking Mitch McConnel
RaflW
I’ll also say that Mandela Barnes underperformed the rest of the Dem ticket in WI running against RonJon last time, and Harris underperformed Tammy Baldwin this time.
Yes, I’m saying there’s some quiet racism among WI ‘centrist’ and ‘Dem’ voters.
prn
@Kelly: She’s beautiful!
I’ve got a 4 month old Border Collie boy named Blwch (pronounced “Blook”) who’s also mostly white, with a black head and a black bean shape on his butt. He’s been driving me nuts today, he has no idea why Mom is so sad. But tomorrow I think we’ll go out for an outing as well
The Truffle
@wjca: How long before buyer’s remorse kicks in?
Because yes, I think the economy will crash.
PsiFighter37
@The Truffle: The real challenge for Democrats is figuring out how to win an election when low-propensity voters who will literally *only* vote for Trump and ignore every other election on the ballot. My feeling is that 2020 was a huge aberration and that Biden only won because the widespread use of VBM meant his campaign, even without a door-knocking observation, could tap into a huge pool of Dem-leaning voters who would otherwise never vote. That was not there this year, and that meant Dems lost their low-propensity voters. Trump didn’t, at least not to the same degree.
The downballot results suggest that, outside of Bob Casey potentially losing, they still held onto every swing state Senate seat, as well as doing decently in other statewide races (see: North Carolina).
NotMax
@surfk9
Haven’t been to Honolulu in decades. Might I suggest asking one or more of the flights attendants on the plane?
Kayla Rudbek
@Jackie: you’re lucky to have had such a dad. I am still furious at my parents who I’m reasonably sure voted for the Orange excrement and then my mother has the audacity to be concerned about getting Christmas presents for her grandson as my sibling, sibling’s spouse, Mr. Rudbek and I are all either federal employees or contractors and so my sibling and spouse are worried about their jobs and wanting college funds instead of Christmas gifts.
At least my mother-in-law is sane and kind, and now my mother-in-law is getting mad at the Church and relieved that her grandchildren aren’t baptized and being raised Catholic which is a big deal for a Sicilian nonna. I called her and my aunt tonight, not talking to my parents now.
df
Welp, I got laid off from a fairly new job on Monday, and now there’s, you know… this. Honestly, though, at least it’s somewhat taking my mind off of the election, since I have more immediate concerns to deal with. I have some savings, and I’m getting a solid severance, although I need to figure out health insurance soon, and then figure out the timing of a bunch of other things, because my very expensive lease ends soon. I’m working hard to re-job and then move across the country to live near some dear friends who mean the world to me, in a solidly blue state, where we can laugh together, cry together, and fight together. That is, if I don’t need to move back home to mom for a bit first (which she would love heh). I’ll be fine, ultimately, it’s just… a crazy test of my ability to stay calm under pressure. I can handle a lot of things well, but precarity, in the United States, as night befalls us, is not one of them.
Go find your people if you haven’t yet. If you have, batten down the hatches and hold them close. We’re going to need each other. We will be all we have.
Jackie
@Jackie: Missed the edit window and wanted to add that my heart goes out to Jimmy Carter. He, too, must be devastated when he learned Kamala lost to TCFG.😢
Ramona
@Goku (aka Amerikan Baka): i’ve often wanted to ask because I am intrigued what your entire nym means and in which language. I figure I’ll distract myself and you by finding out today.
I’m finding it hard to fall asleep.
Ramona
@NotMax: I cannot bear to name them either or even watch footage used for mockery on Seth Myers show.
Jackie
@MobiusKlein: McConnell is the #1 reason TCFG was able to run for president again. May even Hell reject him when he dies.
Thor Heyerdahl
I deactivated my personal Twitter account today (I hadn’t posted anything since February 2022).
It felt nice giving Elno Skum the finger.
Ramona
@Jackie: Let’s not respect any of them and only deign to talk to them if we absolutely must.
Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)
@Ramona:
Goku is the name of the protag from Dragon Ball. Amerikan is self-explanatory lol and baka is Japanese for “idiot”. In full, American Idiot
Ramona
@Soprano2: I am proud of you for conditioning them to know better than to gloat around you. His voters are indeed ghouls. I have no patience for their (I have a memory of Megan McCain) whining, “you mean millions of GOP voters are ghouls?” Damn Skippy! Youse are all ghouls!
KatKapCC
@Jackie: I wonder if they told him.
Ramona
@The Truffle: Much sooner than it did for Bush W!
Ramona
@PsiFighter37: does that mean that there is hope for our claiming the House? Because ACA would not be in as much danger of being overturned. It would still face danger from SCOTUS but…
Jackie
@Ramona: I don’t respect them per say, but, we knew where republicans stood. Not democrats, so much.
Now we – as women – know where we stand with both parties when it comes to a woman being president. It’s a bitter pill to swallow.
wjca
Depends on how fast Trump gets his tariff wishes. And on how quickly the round-up** of everybody who “looks” like an immigrant gets in gear. Either one will crash the economy. At a guess, maybe a year.
The unknowable is how fast Vance can supplant Trump. 25th Amendment won’t work, but Trump could die — from whatever cause. When Vance takes over, the tariffs might well get dropped. But the round-up could get fast-trackeked.
** The deportation that the RWNJs want depends on having some other country agree to take them. But setting up detention areas here (nothing as comfy as a camp, but ground with a fence) can happen pretty quickly.
Ramona
@Thor Heyerdahl: i can’t locate the icon on Twitter to do that. Any hints you can tell me?
NotMax
@Ramona
The Lysistrata Gambit?
Loosely adapted as a musical Western B-flick, The Second Greatest Sex.
;)
Ramona
@Jackie: many women don’t care where women stand, unfortunately.
wjca
Before that, he may get to watch his (non-white) wife get locked up. Trump has already had bad things to say about her. Not on the first day list, but definitely on one of them.
Jackie
@KatKapCC: If Jimmy’s aware enough to follow the election, he knows.
My dad was 98 when TCFG beat Hillary. The following morning after the election, he told me who won and he didn’t see any reason to live anymore. Thankfully Dad lived another 15 months to cuss Trump.
Ramona
@wjca: I think the meatpacking plant owners, agricultural concern owners and construction company owners will at first stop the deport plans but once the recession from the tariffs and subsequent trade war sets in and construction slows down, the demand for deportation from the non owners (i.e. the hoi polloi who are not us) will kick up. Then, that will start up and dark-skinned funny accented naturalized citizens like me may well be swept up
Hey, do you comment on LGM under the same nym? I’m ramros there.
Ramona
@Goku (aka Amerikan Baka): you are no idiot! But cute! Way cute!
Thor Heyerdahl
@Ramona: giving the finger or deactivating?
https://help.x.com/en/managing-your-account/how-to-deactivate-x-account
wjca
@Ramona: this and Obsidian Wings are the only places I comment.
Jackie
@Ramona: Sadly, true. As a woman, I don’t get women in too many instances. Too often, we’re our own worst enemies.
Ramona
@NotMax: Is Lysistrata the one where women deny sex until peace is sued for?
I don’t have sex with them anyway. It’s only the women who mostly demand we talk to them and treat them decently despite their indecent political acts i.e. the degenerates they vote for!
Ramona
@wjca: i suppose an extension to the guerrilla action Adam refers to in his post could be to finance and enable those who could liberate folks from these 21st century concentration camps.
Ramona
@Jackie: your wonderful father made it past 99 and with his sense intact! How wonderful!
mvr
@df:
Lots of people on here seem to be getting hit with bad things twice or more this week. My condolences on losing your job. Hope it all gets figured out.
Sandia Blanca
@surfk9: When I worked in Honolulu, all the business executives wore Reyn Spooner shirts, available at stores like Liberty House, and at their own stores in Waikiki.
Ramona
@Thor Heyerdahl: deactivating! I kind of gave the finger surreptitiously several years ago when a recruiter on the phone was trying to tempt me to work for one of Elon’s companies. It might have been Tesla. “Come to the interview at least, you’ll get to meet Elon.” Said the male recruiter. I was already long term unemployed at the time but I knew Elon was the nut who wanted to go to Mars, was having a bunch of babies, was Afrikaans and the recruiter sounded creepy giving me the sense that my being a woman engineer was why I’d be privileged to meet “Elon” on a mere interview. No thanks, said I.
To you, I say thank-you for the link!
Jackie
@Ramona: Yes he did! I was his primary caretaker his last five years and, truly, he was politically active and aware until the end. I hope the same for Carter.
Dad always hoped to piss on Trump’s grave lol.
BigJimSlade
Anger? Sure, a bit horrified, too. But mostly disgusted. Really disgusted.
Be good everybody! Drive safely when you start your trip, John, and have an excellent trip (in spite of it all)!
Kelly
@prn: Daisy is sweet and attentive until she’s tired. Then she goes into rascal mode grabbing something and racing around the house. “I will not lay down for a nap, No, No, No” she says.
Today was her longest walk 3 to 4 miles.
Ramona
@Jackie: it is well known that successful oppression works by having the oppressed group police themselves in order to survive. Oppression working at the psychological level like this costs the oppressing overseer nothing.
Ramona
@df: I think CORBA where you get to retain your employer’s insurance for a year while you pay the premium is still available even with ACA around. I hope for your sake and mine that we get to keep the ACA.
Good luck to you.
Ramona
@Jackie: hopefully, I can join you in doing that on behalf of your father and soon!
Ramona
@Jackie: heck, if I get the chance I’ll piss on him while he’s alive!
Darkrose
@KatKapCC: I’m diabetic, and I really should eat, but despite my wife encouraging me, I’ve only managed a cup of rice, three crackers, and a bowl of applesauce. I’m about to go make some chicken broth, just for a little protein. I wish I could cry, but everything feels bottled up.
Ramona
@Darkrose: are you listening to music? It can take you to crying and stress release. The aroma from hot chicken broth should soothe you and stimulate your appetite. For now, for a little while we are all safe. We’ll gather ourselves in these two and a half months. Slowly, slowly we’ll come back to strength. For now, rest and savor the soft quiet things existing and breathing offers us.
Jay
@Ramona:
The INS has in the past, conducted mass raids on immigrants in the past. Not a peep from the Company owners. There have always been “more where they came from”. I doubt they will learn.
KatKapCC
Really wonder what all “I voted for Trump because groceries are too expensive” dumbasses are gonna say when all the farmworkers get deported and the produce section in the grocery store is a quarter full and everything costs five times as much.
Jackie
@Darkrose: Darkrose, so many are with you, myself included. Protein drinks, cheeses, nuts, hard boiled eggs and broths are foods I’m forcing myself to choose and partake from. Not from hunger, but realizing I need to take care of myself. Plus a multiple vitamin.
Thor Heyerdahl
@Ramona: You’re welcome.
It felt a bit like the scene in Casablanca where Captain Renault tosses the bottle of Vichy water in the trash.
Jackie
This thread is the most time I’ve spent online since yesterday, and the most positive overall. I didn’t sleep well last night – DUH! – but am ready to crash now.
Take care of yourself, Jackals, and try getting a decent night’s sleep tonight.
Yutsano
@Adam L Silverman: You know what you did.
CaseyL
I keep thinking about how the International Order we grew up with and think of as permanent has only been around since post-WWII; and how the liberalizing movement we think of as foundational has only been around since Brown v. Kansas Board of Education and lasted until, say 2012 (the marriage equality SCOTUS decision). We grew up in those eras and so we think of them as immutable, and the current shift rightward surely has to be an aberration!
Except it’s not. Oligarchy and inequality were themselves foundational until WWI. The idea of universal human rights, so gloriously proclaimed in the Preamble to the Constitution, never got anywhere near being realized until the 19th Amendment and the Civil Rights Movement, more than 125 years after those words were written.
So – as angry and devastated as I am by the election, as disgusted as I am with fully half my fellow USians – once I began to think about it, and put it in historical context, I can’t be shocked by it.
The good news is, the tide will turn again.
The bad news is, based on historical cycles (in Europe as well as in the US), it’s gonna be a long while before that happens.
Kelly
John Rodgers does some arithmetic
https://bsky.app/profile/johnrogers.bsky.social/post/3ladksdggfr2j
Armadillo
A request for guidance to a Twitter thread on parenting under Trump. Or other advice on parenting under Trump. In the last few days I saw a Twitter thread (by who I cannot remember and cannot find it) in which the author talked about how to talk with your kids about the coming problems. Mass deportation, a day of violence by the police, repeal of LGBTQ+ protections, etc. In my memory, the author said that you should not tell your kids “but other people have it even worse than us,” but I cannot remember what method of discussing these issues the author recommended. Did anyone see this thread or does anyone have links or just suggestions on how to talk with kids (ages 13-20) about this?
KatKapCC
@Kelly: sign-in required
prostratedragon
@Darkrose:
@Jackie:
And yogurt.
Darkrose
@Jackie: *hugs* Thank you.
mrmoshpotato
@KatKapCC:
The dumbass Dump-humping racist shitstains will blame Biden.
NotMax
@KatKapCC:\
Sort of an opposite to Robert Hall.
//
Jay
@mrmoshpotato:
It’s gonna be much much worse that that. Massive layoffs, nobody hiring services, no porn.
df
@mvr:
@Ramona:
Thank you, I appreciate it. This might honestly be a good change once it all shakes out. But yeah, I do so hope we get to keep the ACA. “I can always fall back on Obamacare” has honestly made me feel a lot better, knowing that it’s an option.
mrmoshpotato
@Jay: The Trump trash will still blame Biden. Some of these massively stupid, racist shitstains blame Obama for the 9/11 attacks!
Jay
@mrmoshpotato:
Yes, the Trump Trash will still blame Obama, Harris and Biden, but they will be unemployed, have no social safety net, neither will their parents, no healthcare, have to dealt with 3-400% inflation, $17.25 a gallon gas, $22.93 a gallon diesel, $1500 a month vehicle insurance and have no porn.
But they will still have crypto.
mrmoshpotato
@Jay: And some of them might get infected with a new COVID variant!
Congrats to them on electing a conman – twice!
Jay
@mrmoshpotato:
Birb flu from raw milk to own the Libs, plus rotten teeth from no fluoride.
Ramona
@Thor Heyerdahl: if you felt like Louis (do I have his name right?) did when he threw out the Vichy bottle then I’d reckon it felt better than giving the finger!
Ramona
@Jay: and believe it or not, but INS was orders of magnitude more humane than ICE!
Ramona
@df: if SCOTUS doesn’t get involved, we’ll fight to keep it an option. If SCOTUS accepts a case against it and invalidates it, I think we should deposit our dead and medical waste on the doors of those judges who invalidate it.
sab
@Jay: A woman I work with, a solid Republican, sneers at her fellow Republican parents who all drink bottled water because they don’t trust their suburban government to run the water utility.
” My kids drink tap water and have no cavities because of flouride. Their kids all drink bottled water and have mouths full of fillings.”
Jay
@sab:
And the really stupid part of that, is a ton of “bottled water” is just tap water.
Darkrose
@prostratedragon: *hugs* That was a brilliant idea—thank you!
sab
When I see the election results with so many women beating men even in states Harris lost, I think the problem wasn’t misogyny. It was a problem with incumbency and the presidency. When things are going well. Americans in the 21st century switch horses when things are going well, and go for the best available when disaster is looming. Biden got us out of disaster into things going well. So time to switch things up.
Biden got us out of post Covid disaster, so we throw him and his replacement to the curb because crisis over, time for a change.
sab
@Jay: Then why the cavities? Well water not tap water?
Rose Judson
@KatKapCC: I’ve posted a screenshot of it in a new thread. Worth checking out if you need a … grim chuckle?
Jay
@sab:
There are no real standards in the US for “bottled water”, but the higher brands tend to go for well water or springs.
Other Companies just bottle tap water and stick a fancy label on it.
Quinerly
@sab: agree
Quinerly
Hmmmm……
https://www.politico.com/news/2024/11/06/democrats-blame-biden-trump-win-00188092
Elizabelle
@Quinerly: Who cares? Honestly. Not going to click, and fuck them.
Gloria DryGarden
@sab: if only they’d learned that if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it.
assholes. Switching horses, but this next thing isn’t a horse, it’s some kind of monster from the swamp crossed w a tree, tiny hands, gluttonous predator.
deeply grieving, trying to find my breath.
Ramona
@Gloria DryGarden: Funny and horrifically true. Every time I’d start to slip into slumber an image of him or his new couchfucking sidekick would come to mind and I’d gnash my nightguard.
Sister Machine Gun of Quiet Harmony
@sab: It wasn’t only misogyny, but that was definitely a chunk of it. The idea of a women as Commander-In-Chief is a bridge too far for some.
LAC
@sab: so, not a tiny bit of racism? Well, good to know!
Denali5
You made the right decision to delay your trip a day. We all need some time to take a breath, grieve, and figure out how we are going to deal with the sad new reality. For now, be good to yourself, your loved ones and your cats.
artem1s
For your roadtrip. If you have a dvd/cd player in your car, get some audio books. Or use the Libby or Hoopla app to download them with your public library account onto your phone.
artem1s
@The Truffle: December 20 the continuing resolution runs out. that’s the first indicator of what they will try to get away with. Why not shut down the government now and wait until when they have the trifecta and no threat of veto in a couple of months to pass the budget they’ve always dreamed of. No, they will not care about shutting down right before Christmas. They will be thrilled a bunch of government workers are going to be furloughed right thru the transfer. It will be much easier to fire them and do away with their agency or positions if they are already gone.
Chris T.
@KatKapCC:
I am going to point and laugh, Nelson (Simpsons) style.
Anyway, addressing Cole’s comment, anger is (well, can be) good. Motivating.
Seanly
My wife and I are disappointed with the results. She had me look into overseas oppurtunities with my company (a multinational engineering firm, HQ in Montreal, offices worldwide). New Zealand seems kinda nice. But we don’t want to move. The Angry Vet at Sons of Liberty has some very not-safe-for-sensitive-ears posts about the election and how to carry on.
None of this angst and dread for my country matters to my dogs. They have my wife & I; they have reliable access to food & water and have shelter, healthcare and scritches. They love us in the unconditional way that only pets can. The election results suck and things could get bad, very bad, but life continues. Maybe it’s not the best to rely on my dogs to cheer me up, but it does.
We’ve had to be chameleons since we keep living in red states. We have a circle of like-minded friends. I think most people at work pick up on my politics & nobody has said shit about the election to me. The only one I talked to about the election to is a Trump-despising libertarian (but not the edgelord type).
spoot
I don’t know if there has been any post mortems about why 15 million Democratic votes disappeared but my tentative hypothesis is that it was the “throw the bastards out” sentiment which led to our defeat. Face it, Biden’s administration is extremely unpopular and Kamala Harris paid the price for that.
The only consolation is that the Trump administration is likely to fuck up pretty bad so the ” throw the bastards out” vote will be on our side in 2026. We just have to hope that no Supreme Court vacancies happen in the next two years.