JUST IN: House ethics panel voted on releasing Gaetz report but it failed. Republicans voted to protect Gaetz @sarahnferris reports.
— Paula Reid (@PaulaReidCNN) November 20, 2024
Republicans on the House Ethics Committee just voted to BLOCK the Gaetz report from being released. They’re protecting Gaetz just like they protect Trump. The American people deserve to know what it says. Truly shameful.
— Harry Sisson (@harryjsisson) November 20, 2024
If the house ethics report exonerated Matt Gaetz, it would be released already
— Rick Wilson (@TheRickWilson) November 20, 2024
The House Ethics Committee should send their report on Matt Gaetz to the Senate. Are they trying to force us to use taxpayer dollars to recreate the exact same report by interviewing dozens of witnesses and deploying federal investigators? Government efficiency?? pic.twitter.com/zK0QONPuMh
— Amy Klobuchar (@amyklobuchar) November 20, 2024
NEW/BREAKING: We obtained a document from the federal sex trafficking investigation of Gaetz. It shows he made thousands $ in payments to women who told investigators they had sex w/him for money. We are publishing a redacted version of the document. https://t.co/6dSTDHbEpe pic.twitter.com/yC9VvLxWQk
— Michael S. Schmidt (@nytmike) November 20, 2024
… Because the department declined to charge Mr. Gaetz with a crime, the documents amassed during the investigation have remained secret, as the department almost never releases materials that law enforcement agencies develop in investigations in which no charges are brought. But a copy of the chart was obtained by the House Ethics Committee during its own wide-ranging investigation into Mr. Gaetz’s conduct, including whether he had sex with the then-17-year-old.
Steven Cheung, the communications director for Mr. Trump, blamed the Justice Department for disclosure of the document, which he claimed was classified even though it has no classified markings and does not relate to national security…
It has been publicly known for several years that women have claimed that Mr. Gaetz paid them for sex. Shortly after The New York Times revealed the existence of the federal sex trafficking investigation into Mr. Gaetz in 2021, it reported that investigators were focusing on Mr. Gaetz’s involvement with multiple women who were recruited online for sex and how they received payments…
Would this tactic still be legal?
Relatedly, any member of Congress can use the Speech and Debate Clause to read the full Ethics Committee report on Gaetz’s sex crimes into the Congressional Record with no legal consequence! https://t.co/nPnGaluLXU
— vituperativeerb (@vituperativeerb) November 14, 2024
Omnes Omnibus
Why would it not?
different-church-lady
New rule: Republicans never get to scold anyone about morals ever again.
different-church-lady
Can we have a happy thread? One floor down is gonna get really really ugly…
The Thin Black Duke
Narrator: They will.
Baud
Texas did something good
Starfish (she/her)
Nestor is part of this story!
Remember when Matt Gaetz told everyone he had an adopted son named Nestor, and it was really weird
Gaetz met Nestor when Gaetz was dating Nestor’s older sister.
Omnes Omnibus
I think I see the flaw in the plan.
bbleh
@different-church-lady: ahaha! AhahaHAAAAhahaha! Ahaha! Stop, stop, yer killin’ me! Ahahahaaaahaha!
KatKapCC
How much you wanna bet every Republican on that panel are the type to tell Black people that if they didn’t do anything wrong, they shouldn’t be afraid of a cop pulling them over. So I would ask them: If Gaetz didn’t do anything wrong, why are y’all so afraid of releasing this report?
NotMax
FYI. Whoops-a-doodle.
Starfish (she/her)
That story about the ship cutting internet lines connecting European countries is interesting.
geg6
@different-church-lady:
Yeah, I ran away as fast as I could from that one.
cmorenc
I know I’ve said this before in a couple other threads, but way way down in their dying embers.
If Gaetz was any other lawyer anywhere else, his paid sex with a minor would be grounds for disbarment, and the Bar disciplinary committee would already be meeting to consider revoking his license. And yet, Donald Trump proposes and is pushing hard to install Gaetz as the US AG (!!), Another commenter in a previous thread pointed out that the attraction for Trump to appoint Gaetz is beyond just FU to everyone or just forcing a hard litmus test of how bendable the R Senate caucus is to whatever he demands. It’s that Trump knows Gaetz is so compromised that he is willing to carry out Trump’s nefarious wishes as AG without any principled resistance. Especially Trump’s contemplated revenge campaign against everyone who tried to hold him accountable for criminal conduct.
Starfish (she/her)
There are so many characters that I have forgotten the Matt Gaetz cinematic universe.
Nestor’s sister is named May Mendez. I have no clue how old she was when she dated Matt Gaetz.
Also, Matt Gaetz married Ginger Luckey not so long ago. Has anyone checked in on Ginger to see how she is doing?
“She is the younger sister of Palmer Luckey, the billionaire founder of Oculus VR.”
Jackie
Our President is an honorable and decent man:
different-church-lady
@Jackie:
Which is why he had to go.
Peale
I guess the next question is how many other GOP reps are participating in those coke filled orgies with minors. Because that’s probably why they want this to go away. Yeah, I don’t think they see that its a problem and never have.
HeleninEire
@Omnes Omnibus: OK. That made me LOL. 😆
frosty
@different-church-lady: Gonna get ugly????
Here was my comment on it:
“I don’t particularly want to pie the FPer, but his posts bring out the worst fights among the commenters, going back to the election. I don’t know why that is but I think I’ll just [skip reading the comments] from now on.”
Dan B
@cmorenc: It’s been pointed out that Tulsi Gabbard may be the most dangerous appointment because she is likely to leak intelligence to Russia and other enemies of America. Not to say that sexual predators are not as bad.
Baud
@Dan B:
Saw on Blue sky that Nikki Haley has come out against her.
Bernie Sanders is staying silent, to my knowledge.
Gin & Tonic
@Dan B: She is the one I am most worried about.
Baud
@Gin & Tonic:
Me too.
Gin & Tonic
@Baud: What government post does Haley hold?
Jay
@Dan B:
@Gin & Tonic:
They are all dangerous. Each in their own way
While it is The Clown Cabinet, it’s PennyWise not Bozo.
cain
Gaetz looks so much like Butt-Head from Beavis and Butt-Head
Jinchi
Didn’t someone just leak the report to the press?
karen marie
@Starfish (she/her): That’s not new.
Dan B
@Gin & Tonic: She’s repeated Russian talking points and deflected from Bashir al Assad when he was using gas on children.
Baud
@Gin & Tonic:
Official Reasonable Republican Attache for Media Propaganda
Jinchi
@Gin & Tonic:
Trump made a public show of rejecting Haley in advance right after the election
Ohio Mom
@Gin & Tonic: Future Republican presidential candidate. She is working hard to stay in the public eye and polish her image as a “reasonable” Republican (spoiler: no such thing).
Starfish (she/her)
@frosty: This is not the way to keep that thread out of this one.
Starfish (she/her)
@karen marie: It’s not, but I had forgotten all the many levels of weird that this dude is. It is not just the extreme Botox in the face but also the pretending he adopted someone and his weird marriage that is probably a sham. Dude is so freaking weird.
Jackie
@Jinchi: I read parts of it was supposedly hacked, but it hasn’t been leaked to any media source that I’m aware of, so I’m not sure if the hacked story is legit.🤷🏼♀️
KatKapCC
@Jackie: Awesome.
Jay
@Jinchi:
FTFNYT published a few pages of the report. It wasn’t leaked, a few pages were hacked.
Mr. Bemused Senior
Yes, that would be welcome.
Omnes Omnibus
To be frank, probably not.
Sister Golden Bear
@different-church-lady:
Between the last two threads downstairs, I could use one as well.
Especially dealing with this shit on Transgender Day of Remembrance. To quote a friend: “It sucks every year, but the older I get, the more it causes me pain to see how young so many of these people were.”
Rest in Power. Mourn for the dead but fight like hell for the living
Grazziella Takahashi Cavalcante, Age Unknown, Santa Maria, Rio Grande Do Sul, Brazil
Allen O’Donnell, 20, Brockport, New York, USA
Gabriela Rodríguez Rodríguez, 26-30, Tegucigalpa, Distrito Central, Honduras
Amanda Martins, 40, Guarapuava, Paraná, Brazil
Skylar Harrison Reeves, 30, Washington, D.C., USA
Shakira Villa Centeno, 31-40, Santa Marta, Magdalena, Colombia
Tainá de Souza Rodrigues (“Katarina”), 21, Juazeiro do Norte, Ceará, Brazil
Rani Baker, Age Unknown, Portland, Oregon, USA
Vivian Maldonado, 32, Luziânia, Goiás, Brazil
Chyna Long, 30, Milwaukee, Wisconsin, USA
Corei Hall, 14, London, United Kingdom
Cris Velazquez, 37, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, USA
Dulce Maria, 47, Serra Redonda, Paraíba, Brazil
Dominic Dupree/Dominic Palace, 25, Chicago, Illinois, USA
Chay Sophya, 19, Manaus, Amazonas, Brazil
A’nee Roberson, 30, Washington, D.C., USA
Choi Pabillo, 36, Ternate, Cavite, Philippines
Goldie Alleyne, Age Unknown, Port Au Spain, Trinidad And Tobago
Valentina Reis Rodrigues (“Fabinha”), 37, Belford Roxo, Rio de Janeiro, Brazil
Keny, 16, Santiago, Chile
River Paige Olmsted, 17, Lancaster, Pennsylvania, USA
Lisa Love Turman, 35, Chicago, Illinois, USA
Dayallammal, 50, Chennai, Tamil Nadu, India
Carla Perez, 30, Belo Horizonte, Minas Gerais, Brazil
Evelin Sofia da Silva, 24, Recife, Pernambuco, Brazil
Liah Félix da Silva, 60, Iperaruna, Rio de Janeiro, Brazil
Mara Brandão dos Santos, 39, São Paulo, Brazil
London Price, 26, Miami-Dade, Florida, USA
Mya Finch, 36, Boston, Massachusetts, USA
Tieta Fernandez, Age Unknown, Bela Vista, São Paulo, Brazil
Erick Salinas, 38, Potosí, Sucre, Bolivia
Gaby Oliveira da Silva, Age Unknown, Nísia Floresta, Rio Grande do Norte, Brazil
Samantha, 35, Cancún, Quintana Roo, Mexico
A. Islam, Age Unknown, Guwahati, Assam, India
La Pajarita, Age Unknown, Santa Cruz de Yojoa, Cortés, Honduras
Maruca Rodríguez (“Maru”), 41-50, San Juan Pueblo, Atlántida, Honduras
Naomi McNew, Age Unknown, Kokomo, Indiana, USA
Pamela (“La Pabli”), Age Unknown, Sincelejo, Sucre, Colombia
Rafael, 23, Timóteo, Minas Gerais, Brazil
Carla Marques Ramirez Pedreira, 50, Dourados, Mato Grosso do Sul, Brazil
Fabiana, Age Unknown, Lauro de Freitas, Bahia, Brazil
Cataleya, Age Unknown, Sevilla, Valle del Cauca, Colombia
Rayane Gabrielle, 23, Águas Lindas de Goiás, Brazil
Karla López Padilla, 29, Barranquilla, Atlántico, Colombia
Shirley Santos, 52, Prado, Bahia, Brazil
La Gocha, 45, Libertador, Distrito Capital, Venezuela
María Paula Rodríguez (“Cristal”), 26, Bogotá, Distrito Capital, Colombia
Monica Santos, Age Unknown, La Ceiba, Atlántida, Honduras
Martinha Ferreira da Silva, 33, Campo Grande, Mato Grosso do Sul, Brazil
Lola Laperla Ebony McDaniels, Age Unknown, Newark, New Jersey, USA
Bianca Arreaga, Age Unknown, Ciudad de Guatemala, Guatemala
Kumsal, 25, İzmit, Kocaeli, Turkey
Mikael Fustinoni, 24, São José dos Pinhais, Paraná, Brazil
Ghazal, Age Unknown, Peshawar, Khyber Pakhtunkhwa, Pakistan
Priscila Torres, 40, Arcoverde, Pernambuco, Brazil
María Fernanda Ortiz Flores, 43, Bucaramanga, Santander, Colombia
Bruna, Age Unknown, Serra, Espírito Santo, Brazil
Diana Zoe López García, 47, Buenos Aires, Argentina
Melani, 22, Puebla, Mexico
Grance Hidalgo, 27, Maracay, Aragua, Venezuela
Lucero, Age Unknown, Sincelejo, Sucre, Colombia
Doroty, Age Unknown, Barra de São Francisco, Espírito Santo, Brazil
Abigail Zelaya, 27, Guaimaca, Francisco Morazán, Honduras
Babalú, Age Unknown, Caucaia, Ceará, Brazil
María José, 30, Huaquillas, El Oro, Ecuador
Jesús Ociel Baena Saucedo, 38, Aguascalientes, Estado de México, Mexico
Alisha, Age Unknown, Jalandar, Punjab, India
Chenoa Vázquez, Age Unknown, Soledad de Graciano Sánchez, San Luis Potosí, Mexico
Shandon Floyd, 20, Columbia, South Carolina, USA
Isabely Souza (“Isa”), 35, Curitiba, Paraná, Brazil
Amiri Jean Reid, 21, Toledo, Ohio, USA
Kejuan Richardson, 21, Toledo, Ohio, USA
Manimekalai, 27, Tiruchi, Tamil Nadu, India
Valentina Guedes, 21, Agudos do Sul, Paraná, Brazil
Rayalla Eskarlett Santana (“Hayalla”), 22, Jaboatão dos Guararapes, Pernambuco, Brazil
Alejandra Camargo, 22, Sarandi, Paraná, Brazil
Lorraine, 33, Várzea Grande, Mato Grosso, Brazil
Savannah Ryan Williams, 38, Minneapolis, Minnesota, USA
J. Sabido, 63, Lipa City, Batangas, Philippines
Eva, 28, Azuay, Ecuador
Phanuchaya Niamthong (“Ariya”), 38, Mueang Kanchanaburi District, Thailand
Samantha Barbosa Cavalcante, 21, São Francisco de Itabapoana, Rio de Janeiro, Brazil
Demita Jo Armstrong, Age Unknown, Washington, D. C., USA
Akshaj, 17, Mysuru, Karnataka, India
Paloma Amaral Silva, 34, Teresina, Piauí, Brazil
Madison Montana, 26, Los Angeles, California, USA
N. B. da Silva, 23, João Pessoa, Paraíba, Brazil
Roja, 35, Siddipet, Telangana, India
Luisa Melo, 18, Maceió, Alagoas, Brazil
Rocío, 32, La Libertad, Santa Elena, Ecuador
Roxanna Delgado Trujillo, 32, Bogotá, Distrito Capital, Colombia
Jéssica Hadassa, 28, Parintins, Amazonas, Brazil
Caio Siqueira, 35, Maceió, Alagoas, Brazil
Care Hansen, 21, Riverton, Utah, USA
Kamylla Faião de Oliveira, 34, Rio das Ostras, Rio de Janeiro, Brazil
Rudy (“Blancanieves”), Age Unknown, Santiago de las Vegas, La Habana, Cuba
Ashley de Freitas, 34, Porto Velho, Rondônia, Brazil
Tripp Schultz, 31, Salt Lake City, Utah, USA
Bella de París, 38, León, Guanajuato, Mexico
Teresa Fuenmayor (“Tere”), 48, Maicao, La Guajira, Colombia
Aylén Loto, 21, La Banda, Santiago del Estero, Argentina
Amber Minor, 40, Raytown, Missouri, USA
Divya, Age Unknown, Swabi, Khyber Pakhtunkhwa, Pakistan
Izabelly Kalahary, 21, Ponta Grossa, Paraná, Brazil
Katya Mikhailova (“Kate”), 21, Heerlen, Limburg, Netherlands
Obaidy, Age Unknown, Peshawar, Khyber Pakhtunkhwa, Pakistan
Meghan Riley Lewis, 53, Bel Air, Maryland, USA
Paola Portillo, 23, Baracoa, Cortés, Honduras
Manu Diniz, 24, Rio de Janeiro, Brazil
Jay Unchuan (“Coach Jay”), 46, Naga City, Cebu, Philippines
Lexus Walker, 43, Norfolk, Virginia, USA
Warha, 23-25, Peshawar, Khyber Pakhtunkhwa, Pakistan
Kitty Monroe, 43, Phoenix, Arizona, USA
Laila Ketellen, 23, Fortaleza, Ceará, Brazil
Sarala, 25, Pazhaveli, Tamil Nadu, India
Eduarda Dutra Silva, 23, Goianésia do Pará, Brazil
Lola, 25, Quito, Ecuador
Estrela Souza (“Telinha”), 25, Surubim, Pernambuco, Brazil
Gaby Ortiz, Age Unknown, Ixmiquilpan, Hidalgo, Mexico
Vanesa, Age Unknown, Coatzacoalcos, Veracruz, Mexico
Katiuska Cedeño, Age Unknown, Puebloviejo, Los Rios, Ecuador
Sofía Oliveira, 21, Altamira, Pará, Brazil
Giovana Souza, 28, São José do Rio Preto, São Paulo, Brazil
Miriam Nohemí Ríos Ríos, Age Unknown, Zamora, Michoacán, Mexico
Antonina Babkina, 25, Drachten, Friesland, Netherlands
Bruna Trindade/Bruna Andrade, 39, Caraguatatuba, São Paulo, Brazil
Emma, 13-18, La Paz, Estado de México, Mexico
Bunitinha, 57, Ribeirão Preto, São Paulo, Brazil
Cristina Ramires (“María bonita”), Age Unknown, Montelibano, Córdoba, Colombia
Dr Samantha Carolina Gomes Fonseca, 37, Ciudad de México, Mexico
Blaire Crits-Christoph, Age Unknown, Dallas, Texas, USA
Mayla Rafaela Martins, 22, Lucas do Rio Verde, Matto Grosso, Brazil
Damla, Age Unknown, Istanbul, Turkey
Giselle Stone, 20, New York City, USA
Effy Delith, Age Unknown, Tala, Jalisco, Mexico
Diva Reina de los Santos Contreras, Age Unknown, Constitución, Buenos Aires, Argentina
Guelila Elizabeth Iyob (“Gigi”), 25, Damascus, Maryland, USA
Kelly Sousa, Age Unknown, Teresina, Piauí, Brazil
Rafaelyyy Costa, Age Unknown, Itaguaí, Rio de Janeiro, Brazil
Yeliz Ada Korel, Age Unknown, Adana, Turkey
Quin Joy, Age Unknown, Iowa, USA
James Moen, 23, Grand Junction, Colorado, USA
Sasha Williams, Age Unknown, Las Vegas, Nevada, USA
Alessandra De Marzo, Age Unknown, Cellamare, Apulia, Italy
Simi, 21, Chennai, Tamil Nadu, India
Dhanalakshmi, 36, Coimbatore, Tamil Nadu, India
Kal, Age Unknown, Fortaleza, Ceará, Brazil
Jasuhara Gissell Brown Dixon, 40, Managua, Nicaragua
Parsa, 17, Tabriz, East Azerbaijan, Iran
Amanda Soares (“Mandy Gin Drag”), 31, São Gonçalo, Rio de Janeiro, Brazil
Teo Samuel Vásquez, 19, General Roca, Rio Negro, Argentina
D. Gomes da Silva, Age Unknown, Timon, Maranhão, Brazil
Dianny Caballero Gonzales, 23, San Miguel del Padrón, Havana, Cuba
Kathryn Maria Ottersten (“Kathy Otter”), Age Unknown, Fairbanks, Alaska, USA
Ná, 24, Recife, Pernambuco, Brazil
África Parrilla García (“Emma”), 25, San Juan, Puerto Rico, USA
Helen García Artelles, Age Unknown, Camagüey, Cuba
Luma Barcelos, 17, Salvador, Bahia, Brazil
Cecilia Gentili, 52, New York City, USA
Nex Benedict, 16, Owasso, Oklahoma, USA
Raju, 50, Nizamabad, Telangana, India
Eliza Cortez (“Eli”), 24, Teapa, Tabasco, Mexico
Erin Sylvia Sorrell, 44, Seattle, Washington, USA
Simsim, 28, Diwaniyah, Iraq
Jazmín Zambrano Horna, 28-32, Independencia, Lima, Peru
Devaly Vilchis Larios (“La Pepona”), Age Unknown, Ciudad de México, CDMX, Mexico
Petra Cacoj, Age Unknown, Samayac, Suchitepéquez, Guatemala
Maria Cristina, 24, Ciudad de México, CDMX, Mexico
Hellen de Roma, 37, Porto Velho, Rondônia, Brazil
Abigail Salvatierra, Age Unknown, Grocio Prado, Chincha, Peru
Noah Jackson Chase, Age Unknown, Charlotte, North Carolina, USA
Vanessa Evelyn, 35-40, Ciudad de México, CDMX, Mexico
G. Ferreira Gomes, 23, Nanuque, Minas Gerais, Brazil
Angelique Villarreal (“Angy”), 28, Tampico, Tempaulipas, Mexico
Keylin Oana Soriano Esmeralda, Age Unknown, Portoviejo, Manabí, Ecuador
Arcel Regio, 50, San Juan, Batangas, Philippines
Haila Vitória, 15, Santaluz, Bahia, Brazil
Jaquelline Barbie Gutiérrez (“Niurka”), Age Unknown, Acapulco, Guerrero, Mexico
Teresa Murillo, 31, Ciudad Sandino, Managua, Nicaragua
Pâmela Andressa, 40, Quaraí, Rio Grande do Sul, Brazil
Sirena Miller, Age Unknown, Coatepeque, Quetzaltenango, Guatemala
Ashton Myles Clatterbuck, Age Unknown, Lancaster, Pennsylvania, USA
Alexa Arriaga Márquez, 28, Coatlán del Río, Morelos, Mexico
Devanny García, 41, Ciudad de México, CDMX, Mexico
Luisa Mome, Age Unknown, Cali, Valle del Cauca, Colombia
Righteous Torrence “TK” Hill (Chevy), 35, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
Paulina Smith Arroyave, Age Unknown, Cali, Valle del Cauca, Colombia
Queen Uwuseb, 35, Windhoek, Khomas, Namibia
Devora, Age Unknown, Valencia, Los Rios, Ecuador
Shaina Bayabay, 29, Pasig City, Metro Maniila, Philippines
Reyna Hernandez, 54, Renton, Washiington, USA
Noel Rodrigues Santos, 20, São Cristóvão, Sergipe, Brazil
Monserrat Hernández, 36, Zamora, Miranda, Venezuela
Asma Shah/Asma Lata, Age Unknown, Peshawar, Khyber Pakhtunkhwa, Pakistan
Alize Díaz, 26, Tapachula, Chiapas, Mexico
Reshma Khatun, 25, Benapole, Jashore, Bangladesh
Martha Alexandra Coromoto, 36, Ibarra, Imbabura, Ecuador
Aytan, Age Unknown, Khojasan, Baku, Azerbaijan
Diamond Brigman, 36, Houston, Texas, USA
Jhenifer Luíza, 26, Guaíra, São Paulo, Brazil
Anastacia Castillo, Age Unknown, Mazatenango, Suchitepéquez, Guatemala
Riana da Conceição dos Santos, 21, Barra do Coda, Maranhão, Brazil
Alex Taylor Franco, 21, Lehi, Utah, USA
Joelma, Age Unknown, Maceió, Alagoas, Brazil
Barbie Mucilon, 65, Maceió, Alagoas, Brazil
Meraxes Medina, 24, Los Angeles, California, USA
Patrícia, 26, Piracicaba, São Paulo, Brazil
Flávia Alves, 30, Rio de Janeiro, Brazil
Bianca, 28, Rio Largo, Alagoas, Brazil
Thaliana Henao, Age Unknown, Flandes, Tolima, Colombia
Saidul Islam Nayan, 26, Brahmanbaria, Chattogram, Bangladesh
Kity Rivera, Age Unknown, Ciudad de México, CDMX, Mexico
Adrian Fox Bollinger (“Adri”), 20, Saratoga Springs, New York, USA
Dámaris Julieth León Guamán, 38, Buenos Aires, Argentina
Yella Clark, 45, Angola, Louisiana, USA
Charlie Haffray, 26, Rouen, Seine-Maritime, France
Tee Arnold (“Lagend Billions”, “Ace”), 36, Hallandale Beach, Florida, USA
River Neveah Goddard (“Phoenixx”), 17, Stow, Massachusetts, USA
Betsy Altamirado Orrala, Age Unknown, Guayaquil, Guayas, Ecuador
Gisa Ribeiro Lima, 55, Cuiabá, Mato Grosso, Brazil
Meredith Escarlet, 20, Morelia, Michoacán, Mexico
Basil Brown, 21, Lafayette, Louisiana, USA
Jorrana Patrícia da Silva, 32, Macapá, Amapá, Brazil
Fernanda Rodríguez Lara, Age Unknown,Veracruz, Mexico
João Fernandes Rodrigues, 44, Palmas, Tocantins, Brazil
Afsana, Age Unknown, Sultanpuri, Delhi, India
Dadá, Age Unknown, João Pessoa, Pariaba, Brazil
Shayene, 22, João Pessoa, Pariaba, Brazil
Daniele Miranda Alves, 21, São Paulo, Brazil
Babli, Age Unknown, Bahawalnagar, Punjab, Pakistan
Alison, 35, Monterrey, Nuevo León, Mexico
Samira Santos, 36, Ribeira do Pombal, Bahia, Brazil
Abdul Mannan Ananya, 22, Sreepur, Gazipur, Bangladesh
Phongsak Buakham, 45, Ban Pong, Ratchaburi, Thailand
Starr Brown, 28, Memphis, Tennessee, USA
Macarena Selena Acuña, 28, Cali, Valle del Cauca, Colombia
Valentina Barrera Delgado/Vanessa Valentina Arango, Age Unknown, Pasto, Nariño, Colombia
Verónica Dantez, Age Unknown, Bogotá, Distrito Capital, Colombia
Radia Teherin Utsha, 19, Dhaka, Bangladesh
Sharon Muñoz Zúñiga, Age Unknown, Yumbo, Valle del Cauca, Colombia
Andrea Doria Dos Passos, 37, Miami, Florida, USA
Yuliana de la Sancha Guillén (“Yuli”), 34, Nezahualcóyotl, Estado de México, Mexico
Kataleya, Age Unknown, Guayas, Ecuador
Marcinha Ribeiro, 27, Ribeirão das Neves, Minas Gerais, Brazil
Luciana Román/Luciana Moscoso Moreno, 25, Bogotá, Distrito Capital, Colombia
Allister Matthews, 17, Lockport, Illinois, USA
Luma Ferrari, Age Unknown, Mogi Guaçu, São Paulo, Brazil
Darri Moore, 23, Ste. Genevieve, Missouri, USA
Charmy Fredricks, 30, Windhoek, Khomas, Namibia
Ramona Félix, 44, Itapira, São Paulo, Brazil
Noelia Kañiri Encinas, 20, Oruro, Bolivia
Kita Bee, 46, Kansas City, Missouri, USA
Manji Naik, 42, Bengaluru, Karnataka, India
Cássia Vieira, 45, Uberlândia, Minas Gerais, Brazil
Natasha Almeida da Silva, 47, Timon, Maranhão, Brazil
Jazlynn Johnson, 18, Las Vegas, Nevada, USA
Niomi Jenkins, Age Unknown, San Francisco, California, USA
Tayy Dior Thomas, 17, Mobile, Alabama, USA
Babli, Age Unknown, Swari, Khyber Pakhtunkhwa, Pakistan
Tris Lassablier, 25, Saint-Nazaire, Loire-Atlantique, France
Paloma Mendes de Sousa, 34, Timon, Maranhão, Brazil
P. Romo, 33-34, Tlaquepaque, Jalisco, Mexico
Jo-Ann Isaks, 27, Upington, Northern Cape, South Africa
Michelle Henry, 25, San Francisco, California, USA
Jonhy, 26-42, Léon, Guanajuato, Mexico
Roberta Marrero, 52, Madrid, Spain
Joshua Kimo Rainforest Laranang-Mellor Jr (“Rain”), 31, Denver, Colorado, USA
Cataleya Tapia Redondo, 20, Soledad, Atlántico, Colombia
Tamoghna Sen, 27, Kolkata, West Bengal, India
Gil, 26, Ciudad de México, CDMX, Mexico
Alondra, Age Unknown, Ciudad de México, CDMX, Mexico
Jamie Dooley, 41, Hamilton, Ontario, Canada
Yomaira Castañeda, 67, Bogotá, Distrito Capital, Colombia
Karabelo Pudumo, 18, Kimberley, Northern Cape, South Africa
Duda Gaucha, Age Unknown, Curitiba, Paraná, Brazil
Mónica Mancilla, Age Unknown, Balancán, Tabasco, Mexico
Trinity Suárez, 46, Ciudad de México, CDMX, Mexico
Luna Kopola, Age Unknown, Comayagua, Honduras
Lynn Ann Conway, 86, Jackson, Michigan, USA
Daniela Perea, 16, Tadó, Chocó, Colombia
Gece Yaniker, 23, Istanbul, Turkey
Kenia Cruz, 20, Cárdenas, Tabasco, Mexico
Sherry, 29, Hyderabad, Sindh, Pakistan
Oziel Branques dos Santos, 40, Curitiba, Paraná, Brazil
Sofía Leonor, 27, Río Hondo, Zacapa, Guatemala
Liara Kaylee Tsai, 35, Minneapolis, Minnesota, USA
M. Tapia, 52, Denver, Colorado, USA
Pauly Likens, 14, Sharpsville, Pennsylvania, USA
Ashish Chausali, Age Unknown, Pantnagar, Uttarakhand, India
Valentina Sody, 39, Temixco, Morelos, Mexico
Gabriella da Silva Borges (“Gabi Campbell”), 50, Belo Horizonte, Minas Gerais, Brazil
Emma Alraabeah, 18, Harlow, Essex, United Kingdom
Thabang Mmelusi Maboela, Age Unknown, Johannesburg, Gauteng, South Africa
Poly, 30-35, Manirampur, Lashore, Bangladesh
Alejandra Arana, Age Unknown, Ciudad de Mexico, CDMX, Mexico
Lucero Rodriguez Valdivia, 48, Ostia, Lazio, Italy
Cacau, 41, Patos de Minas, Minas Gerais, Brazil
Kenji Zemonta Spurgeon, 23, Seattle, Washington , USA
Dayana Hernández González, 40, San José, Costa Rica
Ketilly, 27, Itabaiana, Sergipe, Brazil
Shannon Boswell, 30, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
María de los Ángeles Díaz, 47, San Miguel de Tucumán, Argentina
Carolina Machado Abad (“Heidi”, “Clarita”), 30, Buenos Aires, Argentina
Angélina Clément, 55, Compiègne, Oise, France
Géraldine Zavaleta Rojas, 30, Clamart, Paris, France
Huber Blanco Medina, 27, Cartagena, Bolivar, Colombia
El Hooper (“Coil Bottle”), 28, Georgetown, Demerara-Mahaica, Guyana
Sheela, Age Unknown, Hyderabad, Telangana, India
Camila Herrera, 35, Daule, Guayas, Ecuador
María (“China Mayerly”), 40, Santa Rosa, El Oro, Ecuador
K. Lubaton, 30, Davao City, Philippines
Ev Smith, 16, Norman, Oklahoma, USA
Samanta Sonia, 29, Córdoba, Veracruz, Mexico
Cristell Martínez Dominguez, 32, Comalcalco, Tabasco, Mexico
Monique Brooks (Jade-Monique Thomas), 49, Orlando, Florida, USA
Violeta, Age Unknown, Alluriquín, Santo Domingo, Ecuador
Daniele da Silva, 21, Juazeiro do Norte, Ceará, Brazil
Luna Martins, Age Unknown, Salvador, Bahia, Brazil
Leticia, Age Unknown, El Coca, Orellana, Ecuador
M. E., Age Unknown, Unknown area in Syria
Aryadina Montenegro, 23, Teresina, Piauí, Brazil
Dylan Gurley, 20, Denton, Texas, USA
Jano, 36, Cebu City, Philippines
Valéria Ferrugini, 57, Nova Venécia, Espírito Santo, Brazil
Gabriela Varconti (“Gabi”), 37, Várzea Grande, Mato Grosso, Brazil
Aranza Aldanely Castillo Ruíz, 23, Monterrey, Nuevo León, Mexico
Verónica Dantes, 26, Medellín, Antioquia, Colombia
Karolay Castillo, Age Unknown, Medellín, Antioquia, Colombia
Paola Jaqueline (“La Española”), 33, Monterrey, Nuevo León, Mexico
Estrella (“Estrellita”), Age Unknown, Ciudad Juarez, Chihuahua, Mexico
G. Cabansag, 40, Ilagan City, Isabela, Philippines
Indianara Pereira de Souza, 32, Várzea Grande, Mato Grosso, Brazil
Vanity Williams, 34, Houston, Texas, USA
Tai’Vion Lathan, 24, Baltimore, Maryland, USA
Gul Ghatay, 31, Peshawar, Khyber Pakhtunkhwa, Pakistan
Jenifer Sharon Romero Flores (“Jenny”), 41, Orizaba, Veracruz, Mexico
Amanda Lucía Martínez, Age Unknown, Panama City, Panamá, Panama
Chantelle Ifeanyi (“Abuja Area Mama”), 33, Abuja, Federal Capital Territory, Nigeria
Ema Vira, 16, Ciudad de México, CDMX, Mexico
Daniela Henrique (“Dani”), 26, Jequié, Bahia, Brazil
Gabriely Lorrany (“Gaby Lima”), Age Unknown, Santa Maria do Cambucá, Pernambuco, Brazil
Clemmy Hadebe, 22, Johannesburg, Gauteng, South Africa
Safira Meneghel, 39, Fortaleza, Ceará, Brazil
Danna Rodríguez (“La Güera del Sur”), Age Unknown, Zacatepec, Morelos, Mexico
G., 20, La Vega, Dominican Republic
Rinlada, 23, Koh Samui, Surat Thani, Thailand
Larissa da Silva, Age Unknown, São Félix do Xingu, Pará, Brazil
Maria Eduarda Souza Lima, 34, Campo Grande, Mato Grosso do Sul, Brazil
Indiana Grayson, 27, unknown area in the USA
Jullyane Fernandes, 20, Bagé, Rio Grande do Sul, Brazil
Kasandra McKenzie, 27, Bucaramanga, Santander, Colombia
Leandro Walker Titley (¨Leo¨), 21, London, United Kingdom
Sunita, 45, Kanpur, Uttar Pradesh, India
China Rivas, 37, Ejido Ocampo, Chihuahua, Mexico
Ana, 40, Boca del Rio, Veracruz, Mexico
Ayetza Yaret Salas, 38, Nezahualcóyotl, Estado de México, Mexico
Rigo Calderón, Age Unknown, Guadalupe, Zacatecas, Mexico
Beidy Gonçalves, 27, Guaçuí, Espírito Santo, Brazil
Valeska London, 32, Barranquilla, Atlántico, Colombia
Kassim Omar, 29, Colombus, Ohio, USA
Gérard Élisé Lanson, 21, Lyon, France
Ana Paula Costas Rivas, 43, San Salvador de Jujuy, Argentina
Barbie Iceland (“Redd China”), Age Unknown, Chicago, Illinois, USA
Ariana Ponce, 25, Chihuahua, Mexico
Aoife Dovah Velspira, Age Unknown, Chubbuck, Idaho, USA
Rashi, Age Unknown, Satara, Maharashtra, India
Sudenaz U., Age Unknown, Kayapinar, Diyarbaki, Turkey
Kesaria Abramidze, 37, Tbilisi, Georgia
Neerma, 29, Hyderabad, Sindh, Pakistan
María Lima, 34, Huamantla, Tlaxcala, Mexico
Cass Trystero, Age Unknown, Bellingham, Washington, USA
Natasha Reddington-Romanov, 55, London, United Kingdom
Aquilla, Age Unknown, Itumbiara, Goiás, Brazil
Bruninha, 31, Itaúna, Minas Gerais, Brazil
Cony, Age Unknown, Cúcuta, Santander, Colombia
R. Hong, 41, Carcar City, Cebu, Philippines
Dayana Núñez, 29, Matamoros, Tamaulipas, Mexico
Letícia Antonella Maryon, 22, Piracicaba, São Paulo, Brazil
Bárbara Vergetti Martins de Souza, 34, Cachambi, Rio de Janeiro, Brazil
Asmara, Age Unknown, Abidjan, Ivory Coast
47 trans people whose names are unknown
Suzanne
@cain: DUDE I SAID THE SAME THING. It’s the weird forehead. Way too long. It’s like a Lars von Trier film, but it’s his face.
Smiling Happy Guy (aka boatboy_srq)
@different-church-lady: Hasn’t that been in play since 2017? After all, that’s when they [s]elected a serial divorcé, serial adulterer, serial bankrupt as POTUS*.
Smiling Happy Guy (aka boatboy_srq)
@cain: acts like it, too.
Martin
Doesn’t matter. Democrats are still defending norms that died years ago. Informing the American public of an overt threat would be impolite to their colleagues.
Tired of this performative bullshit.
Jinchi
@different-church-lady: You’ve got myvote for the happy thread.
Wishing everyone a fantastic Wednesday night.
Smiling Happy Guy (aka boatboy_srq)
@different-church-lady: There was a scene with beds and tapestries, and many things got said.
EveryDayIHaveTheBlues
Hold the report. Let rhe Rs squirm with their poisoned chalice. Release after he’s confirmed.
Omnes Omnibus
@Sister Golden Bear: RIP
frosty
@Starfish (she/her): Oops, sorry ’bout that, Chief.
storm777
@Sister Golden Bear: Thank you. Honoring these people.
Smiling Happy Guy (aka boatboy_srq)
@Dan B: Can’t she leak more than Felonious Thunk already has?
(I mean, of course, yes she could in that position. But so much damage has been already done it’s hard to imagine worse, and with Cheatolini on his way back to the WH it seems what she would give away would be auxiliary to what her boss would ship off by the container.)
Starfish (she/her)
@frosty: Thanks for understanding that dragging beefs from thread to thread is pre-election behavior. 😂
Smiling Happy Guy (aka boatboy_srq)
@Sister Golden Bear: SAY. THEIR. NAMES.
Brava SGB.
different-church-lady
@Omnes Omnibus: Always the realist, you.
Omnes Omnibus
@different-church-lady: I am an optimist, but I am not Panglossian.
different-church-lady
@Smiling Happy Guy (aka boatboy_srq): Tell me more about the tapestries…
different-church-lady
@Omnes Omnibus: Thank god, ’cause that guy was nuts.
different-church-lady
Haley will be completely anti-Gabbard until it becomes obvious she’ll get confirmed.
Omnes Omnibus
@different-church-lady: Hey, I’m tending my garden here.
Jackie
Does a country have the right to reject an American Ambassador?
https://www.rawstory.com/pete-hoekstra-2669961443/
Mr. Bemused Senior
@different-church-lady: “What brought you to BJ?”
I came for the happiness. I was misinformed.
Starfish (she/her)
@Jackie: I think this is a good argument for phasing out the political appointments. Having the political appointments is a bad look. Most of our appointments are not political appointments.
Lyrebird
Attempted humor:
What’s with you being right all the time Duke?? /s
Good to see your comment, and best to you and yours.
Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)
@Jackie:
I would imagine they could, at the potential expense of diplomatic relations.
I’m wondering if all those Arab-Americans in Michigan who voted for Trump or Stein are happy about this nomination?:
HeleninEire
@Sister Golden Bear: ❤️
Steve in the ATL
@Omnes Omnibus: good, because JD > MD, if I’m being candid
Omnes Omnibus
Happy thing? I just discovered this song.
Omnes Omnibus
@Steve in the ATL: Duh.
Steve in the ATL
@Omnes Omnibus: reminds me of Cowboy Junkies
Geminid
@Dan B: Aside from the prospect of leaking intelligence to Russia, Gabbard is especially dangerous because of the nature of the position. The post of Director of National Intelligence is a post-9/11 innovation that channels the flow of intelligence through one office. That’s not neccesarily a bad thing if the DNI is a responsible, politically neutral person.
But the wrong person can shape intelligence “findings” so as to shape policy, especially if they are in cahoots with a corrupt president and/or a foreign power. These intelligence findings can have widespread consequeces and not just overseas. The DNI can influence Homeland Security policy and actions as well.
And there is little if any transparency. Most Energy or Justice Department actions are a matter of public record, buI don’t think many of the DNI’s actions are. They might testify in an open hearing now and then, but the really important briefings are made to Congress in private.
So I see Gabbard as a much greater threst than Gaetz. Gabbard may be tougher to stop though, because while Gaetz is a reckless man, Gabbard strikes me as a very careful woman.
One interesting aspect of Gabbard’s career in the Army Reserve: while Gabbard started out in a medical unit, she finished as a Psychological Warfare officer.
Jackie
YAY for Justice Kagan!
My bold
Omnes Omnibus
@Steve in the ATL: That was what I thought. I had to go online to see who I had just heard on the radio.
Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)
@Geminid:
I think it was stupid concentrating that much power in the hands of one person and having effectively zero transparency
Jackie
@Goku (aka Amerikan Baka): That’s what I linked to with my question 😉
Gvg
@cmorenc: does Gaetz have a license to practice anywhere? I think he was elected pretty young. I don’t recall any law practice. In fact I didn’t know he was a lawyer.
Jay
@Sister Golden Bear:
Thank you for the Memorial.
Geminid
@Goku (aka Amerikan Baka): The US did a lot of stupid stuff in response to the 9/11 attacks. Establishing the post of DNI was one, creating the Department of Homeland Security was another.
Sister Golden Bear
@Omnes Omnibus: Thanks, I needed that. Very Cowboy Junkies.
Dorothy A. Winsor
@Geminid: Adding the word “Homeland” to the way we think about the country is another
MagdaInBlack
@Dorothy A. Winsor: Thank you. The usage always bothered me.
Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)
@Geminid:
I can kind of understand why Dems at the time went along with it. It was a scary, traumatic time, but I can’t understand why so many in the House would vote for that Stop-Terror Financing bill now. There’s no excuse and all that could do is give Republicans bipartisan cover to try to pass it again. It’s literally handing our enemies a fucking weapon.
Sometimes I wonder, when I hear Fetterman say of course he’d vote to confirm Dr. Oz as long he pinker-swear promised he wouldn’t destroy Medicare/Medicaid, or see Biden shaking that piece of shit Trump’s hand in the Oval Office, if any of them ever truly believed in the “Dictator, Day 1” stuff or at least took it as seriously in private as they appeared to on the campaign trail. If they did, they would’ve all voted no on that bill as a group, to send a message
Princess
@Sister Golden Bear: Thank you for that litany. I’m glad you’re here. I’m glad you’re alive. I’m glad you’re trans. I’m glad you’re you.
LAO
@Gvg: Gaetz is licensed to practice law in Florida. I don’t think he practiced.
mrmoshpotato
Can just start calling the GOP the Rapist Party?
Princess
@Jackie: From Canada’s pov, any Trump pick will be vile but at least someone from Michigan won’t want to destroy Michigan’s economy by wrecking trade. So Canada will probably accept him without complaint.
mrmoshpotato
@Princess:
How can you be so certain?
Martin
@LAO: He was a junior associate at a litigation firm for a short while. Donald Trump has definitely spent more time in a courtroom than Gaetz has.
NotMax
@Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)
Double appointment, also Crudités Czar.
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Smiling Happy Guy (aka boatboy_srq)
@different-church-lady: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lion_in_Winter_(1968_film)
NotMax
@LAO
Unfamiliar with the Florida bar but in other jurisdictions aren’t there proscribed steps one must take (however cursory or elementary) to keep the license not only current but active?
Gvg
@LAO: I looked it up. He did a little local law in one of our smallest population counties. Working for a small firm as a junior attorney he was listed as the lead attorney in something like 8 cases in one county and 1 in the next county over several years. This included his time in the Florida legislature which is a part time job. The cases were pretty minor sounding to me. It’s not enough for the post, and also no executive experience. I remember the outcry over Harriet Meier being nominate by Bush for the SC 20 years ago…..she was much more qualified than this guy is for anything. If he didn’t have the legal scandals hanging over him, he should just be laughed out of contention. And that’s on Trump, not him. He should not be nominated. Of course he apparently lobbied for the job. I wonder why? I wonder if he thinks he can cover up his own problems while helping Trump? Or does he plan to do more trafficking? If he gets in, someone should set up a sting on him, because he will do some more law breaking for himself right away.
LAO
@NotMax: I believe he’s listed as current, still in good standing.
Lyrebird
@Sister Golden Bear: Thank you,
Words fail. When some hypocrite says “oh I am suffering, I have to put this little surgical mask on my face” or “oh woe my child might learn that our history is complicated” when there is some real suffering going on, partly because of them, I want to scream. Not helping, probably.
Here is another song, though.
“Run, Mourner, Run” by Sweet Honey in the Rock who would support the fight
Gvg
@mrmoshpotato: I don’t think they know enough about real economics as opposed to their imaginary ecosystem, to know that what they do will wreck things. They also are in the habit of just giving their ignorant extreme base whatever they want, without questioning if it makes sense or will work. We democrats have rescued them up till now. This time I don’t think we can.
Every time they seriously shut down the government and threaten to default on the US debt over trivial reasons (all reasons are trivial), I take it as proof they don’t know reality. It’s been driving me crazy since I learned enough to understand myself. It’s like watching crazy people play with dynamite when they think it’s all a game.
Mr. Bemused Senior
@Sister Golden Bear: I can only say I’m glad you’re here and I value your comments.
RIP all those sufferers.
LAO
@Gvg: To me, it’s fairly obvious why Trump picked him and it’s not his legal expertise. Gaetz has been his number one foot soldier and he lacks any morals or respect for the rule of law. He’ll viciously prosecute Trump’s enemies. And it doesn’t matter whether the bogus prosecutions result in convictions because the time, money and reputational damage to the victims will be enormous.
moonbat
When I picture Gaetz AND Vance in positions close to 45 I keep flashing back to that scene in Game of Thrones when Sansa locks Ramsey Bolton in with his starving mastiffs and walks away. These people will consume each other. They have no other moves.
kalakal
@Gvg:
This. And the same applies to their base
Jay
@Princess:
@mrmoshpotato:
Diplomatic posts are by mutual consent.
Any posting can be denied, for no reason.
Canada will probably accept, if he passes confirmation, because the reality is, US Ambassador’s to Canada since Bush 1, have almost 0 impact on Canada/US Relations. On average, they “make the news” maybe once a year. Usually for the wrong reason, (eg. pissing in the punchbowl or shitting on the table).
Steve in the ATL
@NotMax: 1. Pay annual dues, and 2. Earn your continuing legal education credits.
Georgia requires annual ethics and professionalism CLEs, but I could totally see Florida not doing so!
Aussie Sheila
@Geminid:
Agree re Gabbard. She’s kryptonite to any ‘five eyes’ cooperation. No country can trust the US with any sensitive intelligence if she gets the DNI position.
She’s a shocker, even by my low estimation of general GOP politics. Absolutely compromised imo. But in my view she’s a BJP asset.
Bad news for a lot of reasons, and particularly for any Muslim state/entity cooperating with the US.
mrmoshpotato
@kalakal: While Dump’s base turns over their bank accounts to their orange idol.
SomeRandomGuy
So, great news: my doctor is trying to kill me. YAY.
Suzanne
@different-church-lady:
Hasn’t that been a rule for a while?
Remember when we had a Republican Speaker of the House who raped the teenage boys he coached? I remember! They still pretend they’re right.
LAO
Off topic question: is there a BlueSky BJ starter pack? Asking for me.
Steve in the ATL
@LAO: yes.
That’s the answer you would counsel your clients to give to that question, right?
mrmoshpotato
@different-church-lady:
In what country? The United States of America?
Gretchen
@Jackie: That’s good news. I admire Cecile Richards. And her mom, Ann, was the wit who said that George HW Bush was born with a silver foot in his mouth.
LAO
@Steve in the ATL: i take the 5th amendment
Martin
@Suzanne: Only the left cares about hypocrisy. The rule on the right is very simple: Winning means we can do what we want
We really need to stop pointing out their hypocrisy. They don’t care. It doesn’t shame them. It only serves to show that when the shittiest people beat us, we get really salty about it, which encourages them to support the shittiest people.
Gretchen
@Peale: That is a good question, how many other GOP reps were involved in Gaetz’ activities? He was known to show videos around on the floor of the House. Who else was in them?
And what was he paying for? Most men in their 20s and 30s don’t have to pay for sex? What weird stuff was he into, besides minors, that he had to pay for? And how much does trump know about it? I can see Gaetz entertaining Trump at Maralago by showing him all his videos. Yuck.
Aziz, light!
@LAO: There is. Search “Balloon Juice Jackals.”
YY_Sima Qian
This is going to be such a sh*tshow of historic proportions:
Gretchen
@Sister Golden Bear: Yes, it’s heartbreaking.
Geminid
@Aussie Sheila: Gabbard doesn’t hate all Muslim countries, or at least not their leaders. Gabbard is one of Syrian President Bashir Assad’s leading apologists, and Assad happens to be this century’s biggest war criminal.
Aussie Sheila
@Martin:
This 100%.
No gives a flying fuck. It’s like crying because someone played an unfair joke on you.
Just pursue them relentlessly on what they do in ‘compare and contrast’ mode, all the goddamned time.
Oh, and more laughing at their absurdities rather than tongue clicking disapproval. I don’t mean here, I mean by Dem electeds.
LAO
@Aziz, light!: thank you for that helpful answer.
Aussie Sheila
@Geminid:
Yes she is. But her support for Assad was governed by her support for Russian policy and Indian interests, which have always used Russia as a ‘balancer’ against the U.S. formerly, and now China as well. She is a classic in that respect, and not at all unlike many here in Oz.
YY_Sima Qian
@Aussie Sheila: I’ve seen speculation that the 1st foreign power Gabbard will betray the US to is not Russia, but India.
Steve LaBonne
@Gretchen: When that list was read at church last night, it was the young ages of so many of them that really got to me. So many really never had a chance to have a life.
Omnes Omnibus
@Steve in the ATL: I would go with “I don’t recall.”
Aussie Sheila
@Aussie Sheila:
TBC, I’m not blaming or dissing Indian immigrants here at all. It’s natural that people have a shared politics and cultural valence for a long time after immigration. It’s what it is. But it’s best to be alert to what they are, rather than indulge in a misty eyed view that everyone sharing a cultural or national background thinks alike.
They don’t.
Everyone brings their heritage, cultural, religious and political with them when they travel. Why wouldn’t they?
Aussie Sheila
@YY_Sima Qian:
I’m firmly of that view.
Sister Golden Bear
Apropos meme I saw on this Transgender Day of Remembrance:
“Give us roses while we’re still here.”
BTW, I’m not in the mood today to hold a candle, more like a Molotov cocktail.
Princess
@Gretchen: Madison Cawthorn certainly suggested there was a lot of Matt-Gaetzing going on before they eliminated him. And MTG has basically said she has the goods on the whole GOP and is prepared to release it all. We should be so lucky.
Princess
@YY_Sima Qian: given the tension between India and Canada, with India sending hit squads to kill people on Canadian soil, that’s not a small matter.
mrmoshpotato
@Princess:
And then the rest of the GOP has the goods on that pile of shit…
I wish all of this shit would just have a WWE cage match already.
Steve in the ATL
@Princess: say what?
me
@Steve in the ATL: https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/how-a-killing-at-a-sikh-temple-led-to-canada-and-india-expelling-each-others-diplomats
bluefoot
@Sister Golden Bear: Thank you for this.
Jay
@Princess:
https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/justice-department-announces-charges-against-indian-government-employee-connection-foiled#:
Not just Canada.
YY_Sima Qian
@Princess: Well, Canada is pushing back hard now, but I would like to see the US back up Canada more strongly here, & not make opposition to translational repression subordinate to geopolitics (meaning only being vocal about transnational repression when it’s being done by the US’ adversaries & competitors).
Of course, Trump will probably offer up Khalistani separatists on a platter to Modi, courtesy of Gabbard.
YY_Sima Qian
@Jay: To its credit, Canada is really starting to take the gloves off. The US has been lower key in response to similar Indian actions w/in the US.
NotMax
@YY_Sima Qian
Simpson-Bowles on meth.
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YY_Sima Qian
@NotMax: I should have said “world historical” proportions. USians should study Argentina under Milei for what is in store.
Betty
@Starfish (she/her): Weird does seem to be a prime qualification for being part of the Trump Administration.
Kayla Rudbek
@NotMax: paying bar dues, keeping up with continuing legal education requirements if the particular state bar has any, don’t mess up your client’s monetary accounts, don’t miss filing deadlines with the court