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You are here: Home / Foreign Affairs / War for Ukraine Day 1,004: Holodomor Memorial Day

War for Ukraine Day 1,004: Holodomor Memorial Day

by Adam L Silverman|  November 23, 20248:19 pm| 35 Comments

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A screen shot of NEIVANMADE's painting commemorating the Holodomor. The painting is of a loaf of brown bread with a candle in its center on a table or ledge in fromt of a window. Outside the window it is dark, but the shapes of people can be seen through the glass. "1932 - 1933" is above the top of the window. Below the table is the word "GENOCIDE".

(Image by NEIVANMADE)

A quick housekeeping note: Rosie is doing great. Thank you for all the good thoughts, well wishes, prayers, and donations to help with her chemo.

Today is Holodomor Memorial Day. It is the third one since since Putin ordered Russia’s genocidal re-invasion. A re-invasion that is the second time in 100 years that a dictator in Moscow has attempted to obliterate the Ukrainians, their state, society, culture, and traditions.

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— Iryna Voichuk (@irynavoichuk.bsky.social) November 23, 2024 at 1:21 AM

One of the few surviving photo evidence of the Holodomor, taken by Alexander Wienerberger in 1933 in Kharkiv.
“Mother with her hungry children.”
“The body of the deceased from starvation on the street.”
“The line for bread at the market.”
“Mass graves near Kharkiv.”

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— Iryna Voichuk (@irynavoichuk.bsky.social) November 23, 2024 at 1:27 AM

I love this very touching video from many years ago, about Ukrainian children who died in the Holodomor.
She says: You brought me an apple?
The boy asks: How did you know?
She replies: People always bring me apples😭

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— Sofia (@sofiaukraini.bsky.social) November 23, 2024 at 10:27 AM

I recently came across a short documentary on Ukraine’s history between WWI and WWII by Kings and Generals. You might find many parallels with today. It has some oversimplifications, although a more nuanced video would take hundreds of hours. Highly recommended

www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTMf…

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— Tatarigami (@tatarigami.bsky.social) November 23, 2024 at 6:21 PM

More on the Holodomor after the jump.

President Zelenskyy’s addressed the Third International Grain from Ukraine Conference earlier today. Video below, English transcript after the jump.

During the Operation of Our Grain From Ukraine Program, We Have Managed to Save 20 Million People from Hunger – Speech by the President at the Third International Grain From Ukraine Conference

23 November 2024 – 15:38

Dear participants, our dear guests – of our Ukrainian state – ladies and gentlemen, all attendees!

I am pleased that we have gathered for the third time here, in Kyiv, in Ukraine, to support one of our most important and symbolic initiatives – the Grain From Ukraine program.

The program is working really successfully and will continue to expand. I want to thank everyone who makes this possible.

Today, important figures, important volumes are being announced here, which represent the most important thing – the real lives of people: children, families in different parts of the world. And it’s not just Europe, of course, which is very important for us. But Africa and Asia – the entire world. These are the countries that we have really helped. Ethiopia, Somalia, Sudan, Yemen.

Now there was a very sensitive video. It was Nigeria and Gaza and so on. Many parts of the world. And I am very pleased, and I want to express my gratitude. And I would like us to applaud the whole team, all the countries that provide all this – such support for people. They bring life to people. Thank you very much!

Overall, during the operation of our Grain From Ukraine program, we have managed to save 20 million people from hunger. And this is solely due to one of our humanitarian programs.

In total, Ukraine’s food exports feed 400 million people in 100 countries of the world.

Ukraine is one of the world’s largest contributors to food security. And we maintain this status despite everything. Despite this colonial challenge from the Russian Federation. This war is a war against the lives of Ukrainians, against our people, our families.

I want to remind you that the full-scale Russian invasion began, among other things, with the Russian fleet blockading Ukrainian ports. This was the starting point. And Russia was well aware of the consequences of this. They wanted those consequences, of course, the terrible outcome for the whole world – not just for Ukraine.

They wanted global food prices to rise. And this was not just a desire for more money, more profits. This certainly is the case, and it was the case in Russia. But then it was primarily about power. If they can create a food catastrophe, it means they can subjugate a nation that is dependent on food imports – any food. This is an extremely sensitive issue for most African nations, for a significant number of people in Asia. And in Europe or in America, the question of prices is always a question of stability in this or that region. And stability is important for people’s lives.

That is why it is so important that we continue to stand together in defending food security, the security of food supply routes and other critical export goods.

Solely during the operation of the food export corridor in our Black Sea – from July of last year to this month – 321 infrastructure facilities in our ports have been damaged by Russian missiles and Iranian drone’ strikes. More than 20 vessels – ordinary civilian vessels – were also damaged in the strikes. And we are talking about other countries’ vessels. It is not about Ukrainian vessels. More than 60 targeted strikes were aimed specifically at food infrastructure.

Through this war against Ukraine, Russia has shown that there are no truly distant countries in the world. Everything in the world is now strongly interconnected. There is no distance. There is none.

Food prices in Egypt, Libya, Nigeria, and other countries of Africa and the African continent depend directly on the ability of farmers and agribusinesses in Ukraine to function properly. The speed with which we can clear our fields of Russian mines determines how quickly the food market can return to its normal stability. And here, of course, I would like to thank our people, our farmers – we have very little time for this gratitude during the war. First of all, we mention our priority – our army, and this is only fair. But I want to tell you: because of this war, because of the heavy mining of our lands, the large amount of land – we are talking about hundreds of thousands of hectares – a significant number of people were injured, but the farmers continued to work, continued to do all this, despite the technical lack of equipment in Ukraine to demine such volumes. I want to thank all the farmers, all the people in the world who have been fighting against hunger around the world. Thank you very much!

And for Ukraine, it is important to remind everyone of this on these very days, now, when we commemorate all the victims of the large-scale and artificial famine in Ukraine, the Holodomors of different times. Primarily the Holodomor of 1932-1933, which was orchestrated against our people by the then-Moscow authorities. More than 90 years have passed, but the memory of this in Ukrainian families has not and will not fade because millions of people died. We should certainly value every person, tens, thousands, hundreds of thousands. But when it comes to the Holodomor, it is a real genocide because millions of people died.

We have not forgotten that it all happened. And we must do everything to prevent Russia, again because of its colonial ambitions, or anyone else from creating similar catastrophes that happened in Ukraine – similar catastrophes around the world.

I want to thank everyone who is here today. I thank all the diplomatic representatives, all our guests, for honoring the victims of the Holodomor. Thank you for standing with Ukraine at such an important moment.

Glory to Ukraine!

There was also a press conference. Here’s that video:

President Volodomor Zelensky marked Holodomor Remembrance Day on Nov. 23, honoring the victims of the Soviet man-made famine that killed an estimated three to five million Ukrainians.

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— The Kyiv Independent (@kyivindependent.com) November 23, 2024 at 10:37 AM

President Zelenskyy and First Lady Zelenska also attended the Holodomor Memorial Day events today. Here is the write up from the President of Ukraine’s official site:

The President and the First Lady Honored the Memory of Holodomor Victims in Ukraine

23 November 2024 – 13:56

President of Ukraine Volodymyr Zelenskyy and First Lady Olena Zelenska took part in events commemorating the victims of the Holodomor-Genocide of 1932-1933, as well as the Holodomors of 1921-1923 and 1946-1947.

In the morning, a prayer service was held at the Holy Dormition Cathedral of the Kyiv-Pechersk Lavra to commemorate the Holodomor victims in Ukraine.

The service was also attended by Prime Minister Denys Shmyhal, Head of the Presidential Office Andriy Yermak, church leaders and representatives of religious organizations, heads of the Security and Defense Forces of Ukraine, military personnel, military chaplains, and representatives of the Ukrainian diaspora.

After the prayer, the Head of State, the First Lady, representatives of the military and political leadership, and the clergy marched to the National Museum of the Holodomor-Genocide.

Volodymyr Zelenskyy and Olena Zelenska laid sheaf compositions at the Bitter Memory of Childhood monument and paid tribute to the Holodomor victims.

After the presidential couple, our warriors, including Heroes of Ukraine Roman Mamavko and Bohdan Dronov, as well as other participants, including representatives of the diplomatic corps, honored the memory of the victims of genocide.

The Kyiv Independent has more details on the Zelenskyys Holodomor Memorial Day observances:

President Volodomor Zelensky marked Holodomor Remembrance Day on Nov. 23, honoring the victims of the Soviet man-made famine that killed an estimated three to five million Ukrainians.

The Holodomor occurred from 1932 to 1933 under Soviet dictator Joseph Stalin’s rule. The Ukrainian government has called on the international community to recognize it as a genocide against the Ukrainian people.

On Holodomor Remembrance Day, Ukrainians traditionally light a candle at 4 p.m. and place it in their window to honor the memories of those who perished in the famine.

“They wanted to destroy us. To kill us. To subjugate us. They failed. They wanted to hide the truth and silence the terrible crimes forever. They failed,” Zelensky wrote on X, formerly known as Twitter.

“They wanted to confuse us, mislead us, make us doubt—to forget, and in forgetting, to forgive. They failed.”

Several of Ukraine’s European allies also marked Holodomor Remembrance Day.

European Parliament President Roberta Metsola wrote that “Europe joins the people of Ukraine to remember and pay tribute (to the victims).”

“Russia continues what it started 91 years ago – trying to erase the Ukrainian nation from the Earth. Then via manmade famine, today with rockets, missiles, bombs, murders, rape, attacks on ports, energy facilities,” Latvian Foreign Minister Baiba Braze wrote, noting that Latvia recognized the Holodomor as a genocide in 2008.

From the Holodomor Museum in Kyiv:

In 1928, the Soviet leadership announced a policy of collectivization, by combining individual private farms with the collective farms of state property. Each farmer had a certain number of workdays, for working off of which they were paid for by natural products. However, mainly the totality of workdays was so miserable that denied the opportunity for the farmers to feed themselves and their families. Considering Ukrainian farmers’ strong sense of individualism, the collective farm policy system implementation in Ukraine received resistance. That is why villagers were forcefully dragged into collective farms by compulsion, terror and propaganda war with dissenters, whom the regime marked as “kulaks,” “bourgeois nationalists,” and “counter-revolutionaries,” and destroyed those people.

The policy of the Soviet regime provoked the Ukrainian people’s resistance. Historians have recorded about 4 thousand farmers’ mass demonstrations in the early 1930s against collectivization, tax policy, robbery, terror and violence done by authorities.

A sense of national identity of Ukrainian farmers, combined with mental individualism, contradicted the ideology of the Soviet Union. That was the basis of Ukrainian nationalism and was a threat to the unity and the very existence of the USSR. That is why the object of genocide crime was the Ukrainian nation, to weaken which the Stalinist totalitarian regime carried out genocidal extermination of the Ukrainian farmers as the prevalent part of the nation and the source of its spiritual and material strength.

The danger of riots and rebellions for the existence of the USSR was well aware in Kremlin by Stalin and his associates. Not wanting to lose Ukraine, the Soviet regime created a plan to exterminate the Ukrainian nation, which was disguised as grain procurement plans to the state. It was about the complete removal of all stocks of grain and other food and property confiscation as penalties for failure of grain procurement plan. After Ukraine was turned into the territory of famine, the regime cut off all the ways to salvation. Only Ukrainian and Kuban’ farmers were forbidden to travel to cities in Russia and Belarus. 22,4 million people were physically locked within the territory of the Holodomor.

Stalin, who considered farmers the basis of the national movement, hit the Ukrainian farmers as the bearer of Ukrainian traditions, culture and language. In 1932, an unrealistic implementation grain procurement plan, of 356 million poods of grain, was set for Ukraine. To approve the plan, Stalin’s closest associates, Kaganovich and Molotov, came to Kharkiv, who were well informed about the scale of the famine in the first half of 1932, Ukraine. The Genocide was organized and committed by the legalization of violence and mass murder of Ukrainians by government representatives. About 400 archival documents confirm this.

In the early 1930s, the policy of collectivization in Ukraine collapsed. Farmers massively abandoned farms and took their property back: livestock, stock, and earned grain. On August 7, 1932, to preserve farms and property in state hands, the regime adopted a repressive resolution known among the people as a “Law On Five Ears of Grain.”

According to the resolution of CEC and Council of People’s Commissars of the USSR “On Safekeeping Property of State Enterprises, Collective Farms and Cooperatives and Strengthening Public (Socialist) Property,” all the collective property equated to the state property and it was set a severe punishment for its theft. With a law like this, the state punished hungry farmers for collecting the crop leftovers from fields for ten years imprisonment with confiscation of property or execution. The law took away people’s right to have any food. According to the resolution, a specific group of people was organized to carry out searches among the population to forcefully withdraw the grain. Those searches were accompanied by terror and physical and psychological abuse of people.

The next genocidal decision was the establishment of food fines – the right of the state to take from farmers not only grain but all the food and property that could be sold or exchanged for food, which there wasn’t in any other Soviet republic. To strengthen the famine in Ukraine, the Politburo of the CC CP (B), under the pressure of Molotov, on November 18, 1932, adopted a resolution which introduced a specific repressive regime – the “black boards”. Including into the “black boards” meant physical food blockade of farms, villages, and districts: total removal of food, ban of trade and transportation of goods, and ban on leaving for farmers and the surrounding place by military units, GPU, police. In 1932 – 1933 the regime of “black boards” acted in 180 districts of the USSR (25% area). Such a repressive regime was used only in Ukraine and Kuban, in the areas where Ukrainians lived.

Kremlin created conditions of life designed to destroy the Ukrainian nation through the complete withdrawal of all food supplies. Resolution of the CP ECP (b) and the People’s Commissars of the USSR from January 22, 1933, signed by Stalin and Molotov, blocked Ukrainians inside the starving territory and forbade them to leave the Ukrainian SSR and Kuban to buy any bread. For any other administrative region of the USSR, such a decision was not applied.

The Stalinist regime declared famine in Ukraine as a non-existent phenomenon. That is why, they refused the assistance offered by many NGOs, including foreign Ukrainian communities and the International Red Cross.

In the spring of 1933, the mortality rate in Ukraine became catastrophic. The peak of Holodomor fell in June. Then the martyr’s death took away every day 28 thousand people, every hour – 1168 people, and every minute – 20 people. At that time, Moscow gave Ukraine seed (for sowing) and food loans. In case when food reached villages, it was provided mainly in form of catering and only to those collective farmers who were still able to work and live in field conditions.

That all was carried out with large grain stocks, available in the centralized state reserves and large-scale food exports.The totalitarian regime’s actions confirm the intention to destroy part of the Ukrainian nation within the specified time limits.

During the commission of a particularly grave crime of genocide in 1932–1933, the communist totalitarian regime exterminated millions of Ukrainians.

Certain historical circumstances complicate the calculations and, even more so – establish the names of the killed. The communist totalitarian regime did everything possible to conceal the consequences of its crime. It was forbidden to record the real number of deaths. Today, secret lists of some village councils, with the list of those who died in 1932-1933, were discovered. These lists are twice the official data. It is quite clear that such cases were not isolated. There was a ban on recording the cause of death as “hunger”, so death certificates indicated “from typhus”, “exhaustion”, or “from old age”. In 1934, all the registry office books about death registration were transferred to a specific department of GPU. Ukrainians died out in families, villages, and the records were held not always. The level of unreported deaths is unknown, but it is clear that millions died. The rate of unreported deaths is unknown, but it is clear that millions died.

The Soviet Union convinced the international public “not to see” the mass murder of Ukrainians with the help of propaganda and bribery of individual journalists. However, there were publicists who wrote the truth. Reports of ambassadors and diplomats have been kept. The regime took measures to erase the memory of the killing of millions of Ukrainians but the memory of the people is indestructible. Moreover, with the independence of Ukraine, the ban on talking about the Holodomor was lifted.

At the entrance to Kyiv’s memorial park, a haunting sculpture depicts a very thin girl with a very sad look and a handful of wheat. Behind her stands a giant Candle of Remembrance of the Holodomor, a man-made famine that killed millions of Ukrainians.

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— Kate from Kharkiv (@kateinkharkiv.bsky.social) November 23, 2024 at 9:03 AM

In the aftermath of World War I, Ukraine was independent. However, in 1919, the Soviet Union forcibly annexed the nation. Ukrainians, yearning for self-determination, were seen as a threat to Moscow’s imperial ambitions.

— Kate from Kharkiv (@kateinkharkiv.bsky.social) November 23, 2024 at 9:03 AM

In 1932, not wanting to lose control of Europe’s main source of grain, Stalin confiscated the grain-producing land from Ukrainian peasants and took all the grain, creating an artificial famine. The goal was to teach Ukrainians a lesson so they would no longer oppose Moscow.

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— Kate from Kharkiv (@kateinkharkiv.bsky.social) November 23, 2024 at 9:03 AM

The people who produced the most grain in Europe were left without a crumb of bread.

— Kate from Kharkiv (@kateinkharkiv.bsky.social) November 23, 2024 at 9:03 AM

The height of this horrific event was in the spring of 1933, when millions of Ukrainians perished from hunger.

— Kate from Kharkiv (@kateinkharkiv.bsky.social) November 23, 2024 at 9:03 AM

My late grandfather was only 9, during the Holodomor. He recounted witnessing people starving to death in the streets, their bodies eventually collected and disposed of in mass graves. In rare moments when he’d open up about it, it was very clear that the event deeply scarred him for life.

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— Kate from Kharkiv (@kateinkharkiv.bsky.social) November 23, 2024 at 9:03 AM

To conceal the extent of the genocide, Stalin’s regime erased evidence, executed census takers, and resettled russian populations in Ukrainian villages. For decades, the Holodomor remained a silenced history, buried beneath layers of Soviet propaganda.

— Kate from Kharkiv (@kateinkharkiv.bsky.social) November 23, 2024 at 9:03 AM

The Holodomor at that time broke the Ukrainian resistance, but it made the desire for Ukraine’s independence eternal, forever imprinting it in our DNA.

— Kate from Kharkiv (@kateinkharkiv.bsky.social) November 23, 2024 at 9:03 AM

As russia’s invasion of Ukraine continues, the specter of the Holodomor looms
Every fourth Saturday of November, we light a candle to remember the victims of the Holodomor. This year, light a candle with us and share information about the genocide of the Ukrainian people that is happening yet again

— Kate from Kharkiv (@kateinkharkiv.bsky.social) November 23, 2024 at 9:03 AM

We leveled your cities, carried out mass executions of civilians and POWs, denied your nationhood and language, denied your agency to conduct foreign policy, and invaded you twice. But if you downsize your army and become neutral, we promise we won’t touch you again, trust me bro

— Tatarigami (@tatarigami.bsky.social) November 23, 2024 at 5:31 PM

 

 

The Kursk cross border offensive:

Reports indicate an attack on the Kursk region, with air defense systems actively engaged.

The regional governor has reported an assault involving Ukrainian UAVs. Other sources suggest the enemy may be employing ATACMS ballistic missiles or Storm Shadow cruise missiles.

— WarTranslated (Dmitri) (@wartranslated.bsky.social) November 23, 2024 at 3:02 PM

In Kursk, Russia, a threat of attack by ballistic missiles (ATACMS) was reported. Local residents heard explosions in the city.

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— 🦋Special Kherson Cat🐈🇺🇦 (@specialkhersoncat.bsky.social) November 23, 2024 at 3:27 PM

Kurakhove:

The Russian T-90M tank may have achieved a world record in the “turret yeet” category following an ammunition detonation. Struck by fighters from the National Guard’s special unit, its turret reportedly soared an astonishing 200 meters into the air. This remarkable feat took place near Kurakhove.

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— WarTranslated (Dmitri) (@wartranslated.bsky.social) November 23, 2024 at 10:02 AM

Kharkiv:

Today, Kharkiv lights candles in remembrance of the victims of the Holodomor.

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— Kate from Kharkiv (@kateinkharkiv.bsky.social) November 23, 2024 at 10:54 AM

Kherson:

A walk downtown #Kherson: at a corner, a pit and fresh flowers for a woman just killed here by a Russian shell.

Same block, flowers, and candles to commemorate the Kherson victims of the totalitarian regime and Holodomor, Stalin’s death by hunger, in 1932–1933.

Why?

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— Zarina Zabrisky (@zarinazabrisky.bsky.social) November 23, 2024 at 4:33 PM

Velyka Novosilka, Donetsk Oblast:

Footage (with subs) of the defense forces repelling a mechanized assault by the Red Army near Velyka Novosilka in the Donetsk region. As seen, the enemy’s equipment is heavily modified with various upgrades, resembling Frankenstein’s monsters.

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— WarTranslated (Dmitri) (@wartranslated.bsky.social) November 23, 2024 at 7:30 AM

Full 3-minute video is here: t.me/wartranslate…

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— WarTranslated (Dmitri) (@wartranslated.bsky.social) November 23, 2024 at 7:30 AM

Fragment of video showing a Ukrainian drone firing on enemy positions in a treeline southeast of Velyka Novosilka using a mounted gun.

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— WarTranslated (Dmitri) (@wartranslated.bsky.social) November 23, 2024 at 7:13 AM

Russian forces are reportedly advancing near five settlements in Donetsk Oblast, the crowd-sourced monitoring website Deep State reported on Nov. 23.

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— The Kyiv Independent (@kyivindependent.com) November 23, 2024 at 10:38 AM

The Kyiv Independent has the details:

Russian forces are reportedly advancing near five settlements in Donetsk Oblast, the crowd-sourced monitoring website Deep State reported on Nov. 23.

The settlement of Velyka Novosilka was targeted directly by a military column of “at least” five armored fighting vehicles, as well as two others through tree lines south of the settlement of Rozdolne, according to Deep State.

Ukrainian forces pushed Russian troops out of Rozdolne, but the situation in the area remains “extremely challenging,” Deep State reported.

In addition to Velyka Novosilka and Rozdolne, Russian forces are advancing near Maksymivka, Pustynka, and Toretsk, Deep State wrote.

Russia has been mounting increasingly intense attacks along multiple areas of the eastern front, attempting to breach Ukraine’s defenses in Donetsk Oblast and to reach the cities of Kurakhove and Pokrovsk.

Avdiivka:

Fresh footage from the city of Avdiivka, reduced to rubble by the Rashists. The “liberation” of the city from life was a success. Now, the “Russian world” has fully taken root here.

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— WarTranslated (Dmitri) (@wartranslated.bsky.social) November 23, 2024 at 7:06 AM

Russian occupied Crimea:

⚡️Crimean Tatar editor goes missing in occupied Crimea.

Ediye Muslimova, the editor-in-chief of a Crimean Tatar children’s magazine, disappeared in Russian-occupied Crimea on Nov. 21. Local sources say she was forced into a vehicle by three men and is being detained by the Russian FSB.

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— The Kyiv Independent (@kyivindependent.com) November 22, 2024 at 10:53 PM

Here are the details from The Kyiv Independent:

Ediye Muslimova, the editor-in-chief of a Crimean Tatar children’s magazine, disappeared in Russian-occupied Crimea on Nov. 21, according to the NGO Crimean Solidarity.

Lutfiye Zudiyeva, a journalist and human rights activist, said Muslimova was seen being put into a white GAZelle vehicle by three unknown men near her home the morning of Nov. 21.

Crimea has been under Russian occupation since 2014. Following Moscow’s illegal annexation, Russia began targeting the peninsula’s indigenous Tatar population, which has been particularly vocal in resisting the occupation.

Muslimova’s family became concerned after Muslimova, 61, would not answer or return calls, according to her niece, Elzara.

“I started calling — she has two phones (a work phone and her regular phone), both phones are turned off,” Elzara Muslimova said.

“There is no connection: no Telegram, no WhatsApp, no Viber.”

Zudiyeva’s account of an apparent abduction was supported by Zarema Bariieva, manager of the Crimean Tatar Resource Center (CTRC).

“Recently, it became known that a 61-year-old woman is being held in the FSB (Russia’s Federal Security Service) building,” she said in a Facebook post.

The Kyiv Independent could not independently verify these reports at the time of publication.

Muslimova is the daughter of Crimean Tatar activitst Refat Muslimov and editor of the children’s magazine “Armanchyk,” which has been published monthly since 2011. It is reportedly the only glossy children’s magazine in the Crimean Tatar language.

According to the CTRC, 70% of all political prisoners in occupied Crimea are Crimean Tatars.

Russian occupied Berdyansk:

Overnight on the south coast, #Ukraine looks to have struck the occupied city of Berdiansk. A loud explosion occurred in “the port area.” Russia uses the port to bring in military supplies & to loot Ukrainian grain, coal etc. So fingers crossed 1 less orc ship. t.me/berdmisk/11258

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— Glasnost Gone (@glasnostgone.bsky.social) November 23, 2024 at 3:48 AM

That’s enough for tonight.

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— Nate Mook (@natemook.bsky.social) November 17, 2024 at 6:44 AM

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  1. 1.

    KatKapCC

    November 23, 2024 at 8:28 pm

    It’s always been disturbing to me to see lefty weirdos in anti-work groups idolizing Stalin, for many reasons but especially because of the Holodomor.

  2. 2.

    funlady75

    November 23, 2024 at 8:37 pm

    thank you Adam…

  3. 3.

    West of the Rockies

    November 23, 2024 at 8:43 pm

    Psychopaths and their enablers have no honor, empathy, sympathy, nothing good.  I wish there were a hell for such people.  Stalin, Putin, Trump, etc.

  4. 4.

    Gin & Tonic

    November 23, 2024 at 8:45 pm

    Spent some time this evening listening to my 100-yo MIL. Her memory comes and goes, but some things persist. “Then the Bolsheviks came and took everything” is one.

    What’s the saying, history doesn’t repeat but it rhymes?

  5. 5.

    Gin & Tonic

    November 23, 2024 at 8:49 pm

    Very grateful, Adam, for the amount of space you devoted to the Holodomor in tonight’s post.

  6. 6.

    Adam L Silverman

    November 23, 2024 at 8:51 pm

    @Gin & Tonic: You’re most welcome.

  7. 7.

    Bill Arnold

    November 23, 2024 at 8:56 pm

    @Gin & Tonic:
    I was poking at that quote 30 minutes ago.
    Quote Investigator does it best.
    Quote Origin: History Does Not Repeat Itself, But It Rhymes (quoteresearch, January 12, 2014)
    That formulation goes back to 1965:

    QI tentatively credits Theodor Reik with formulating this saying.

    There are precursors.

  8. 8.

    ColoradoGuy

    November 23, 2024 at 8:58 pm

    Thank you for this post, Adam. Holodomor must be remembered.

  9. 9.

    Jay

    November 23, 2024 at 9:11 pm

    Thank you Adam.

  10. 10.

    Roberto el oso

    November 23, 2024 at 9:15 pm

    Thank you, Adam.

    Out of curiosity, does ‘War Translated (Dmitri)’ regularly use ‘Red Army’ to describe the Russian forces? I admit that I checked the videos several times to make sure it wasn’t historical footage from WWII.

  11. 11.

    AWJ

    November 23, 2024 at 9:16 pm

    @KatKapCC: Stalinists and campists have always existed on the fringes of the left (e.g. George Galloway, or the people who shilled for Milosevic in the 90s, or the WWP/ANSWER freaks at anti-war rallies in the GWB era) but their numbers seem to explode in the mid-2010s with the Syrian Civil War and the Russian seizure of Crimea and invasion of the Donbass. Max Blumenthal turning into one of them was a horrible bellwether moment. I see it as just another facet of the 2010s breakdown in consensus reality…

  12. 12.

    Nukular Biskits

    November 23, 2024 at 9:17 pm

    Thanks for the history lessons, both here and on Bluesky, Adam.

    I don’t know how you find the time to do it but never doubt your work is appreciated.

  13. 13.

    Adam L Silverman

    November 23, 2024 at 9:25 pm

    @Roberto el oso: First time I’ve seen him use the term.

  14. 14.

    Adam L Silverman

    November 23, 2024 at 9:26 pm

    @Nukular Biskits: I have no idea how I find the time either. But you’ll notice, I only do the one Ukraine war update here a day. And my detailed threads on BlueSky are few and far between these days.

  15. 15.

    KatKapCC

    November 23, 2024 at 9:29 pm

    @AWJ: It’s unsettling, TBH.

  16. 16.

    Jay

    November 23, 2024 at 9:44 pm

    @Roberto el oso:

    This is the first time I have seen Dimitri refer to the ruZZian Army as “The Red Army”.

    It’s probably a typo or cut and paste error.

    BTW, nitter has been down for 2 days now.

    Looks like BlueSky is now the way.

  17. 17.

    Nukular Biskits

    November 23, 2024 at 10:22 pm

    @Adam L Silverman:

    Still, it takes time to compile the information you bring to us.

    Cue the blather about making time blah blah blah, but most of us are lucky to find the time to decide what to make for dinner.  You, having a full-time job, other responsibilities, etc, somehow manage to put together a concise rundown of the day’s events WRT Ukraine (and, occasionally, other conflict-related news).

    I’m beat after an 8-hour day, much less the ones I’ve had this past week and I know (actually, suspect) you keep much longer hours than do I.

    The self-proclaimed God of ____ (program I support) has met his match. 🤣

  18. 18.

    Chris

    November 23, 2024 at 10:49 pm

    @KatKapCC:

    Clearly I don’t spend enough time in these groups, but I’ve never really seen much in the way of Stalin-worship.

    The people I used to see most revered among communism nostalgists on the left are usually more people like Leon Trotsky and Che Guevara – people who never wielded the ultimate power and instead eventually fell out of favor with their respective governments.  Which I always found revealing in its own kind of way.  The best communist leader is the one who was never actually leader, because then you can fantasize about how if he’d made it to the top instead of (Stalin, Castro, wev), everything would’ve been different.

  19. 19.

    Chris

    November 23, 2024 at 10:56 pm

    @AWJ:

    2014 on this very blog is where I first saw that shit.

    It was interesting; growing up in the 2000s, I’d always heard the accusation of “you lefties aren’t anti-war, you’re just anti-America and pro [Saddam, Osama, wev],” but I’d never actually seen it be true before – whenever I’d talk to antiwar folk, they obviously found people like Saddam or Osama disgusting, they just weren’t going to let that fool them into sanctifying whatever unjustifiable war crime Dubya had cooked up for us that day.

    But then right at the time of the 2014 Ukraine invasion, I suddenly started seeing all these people pop up whose views were literally “whatever Russia Today’s party line is, updated daily.”

  20. 20.

    Roberto el oso

    November 23, 2024 at 11:59 pm

    @Chris: The same “if only” sort of feeling about Trotsky and Guevara can get very in-the-weeds among certain types (and I would include myself when younger). What would have happened to the Cuban Revolution if Camilo Cienfuegos hadn’t died in that plane crash? What if the younger Bolsheviks like Bukharin and Kirov had been able to foresee and avoid Stalin’s maneuvers?

    I’ve seen excellent arguments for both the possibility that things would have been quite different in those histories as well as the possibility that nothing would really have changed at all.

  21. 21.

    RevRick

    November 24, 2024 at 12:03 am

    Thanks? to Facebook I was reminded that yesterday was the 61st anniversary of JFK’s assassination and how traumatic that was for our country at the time, a decade of political assassinations, from Medgar Evers to MLK to Malcolm X. It’s a reminder that violence is deeply embedded in our history. Only our Holodomor preceded slowly with the near extermination of the Native Americans to slavery’s Middle Passage to Jim Crow lynchings.
    There is little difference between Stalin’s murderous policy towards Ukraine and Hitler’s Holocaust , between Turkey’s genocide against the Armenians and the one of Hutus against Tutsis. The one common thread is an othering of certain people that erases their humanity.

  22. 22.

    ColoradoGuy

    November 24, 2024 at 12:46 am

    As an official Old Guy who remembers the triple assassinations of JFK, MLK, and RFK all too well, followed by the disgusting election of the notorious ratfucker Nixon in 1968, my feeling at the time was that it wiped out the real Left in this country, leaving behind the poseurs of the New Left carrying their Little Red Books as talismans.

    I still feel that way. The triple assassinations of national leaders sent an unmistakable message that real change for the better would be met by bullets by mysterious assassins. The assassinations at Kent State carried the further message that ordinary students could be gunned down with no penalty for those who fired the guns. Meanwhile, the New Left play-acted for the cameras while having zero effect on national policy … instead, they were convenient bogeymen for Nixon’s real gangsters to campaign against.

  23. 23.

    Thor Heyerdahl

    November 24, 2024 at 1:47 am

    @Jay: xcancel.com still seems to work instead of nitter

  24. 24.

    Thor Heyerdahl

    November 24, 2024 at 1:54 am

    Russia recruits Yemeni mercenaries to fight in Ukraine – https://on.ft.com/3ZiGeon via @FT (limited gift link)

    …Russia’s armed forces have recruited hundreds of Yemeni men to fight in Ukraine, brought by a shadowy trafficking operation that highlights the growing links between Moscow and the Houthi rebel group.

    Yemeni recruits who travelled to Russia told the Financial Times they were promised high salaried employment and even Russian citizenship. When they arrived with the help of a Houthi-linked company, they were then forcibly inducted into the Russian army and sent to the front lines in Ukraine…

  25. 25.

    Jay

    November 24, 2024 at 1:55 am

    @Thor Heyerdahl:

    Thank you.

  26. 26.

    bjacques

    November 24, 2024 at 5:43 am

    Of all the updates, this was the hardest to read. The video, of kindness against horror, especially got me.

    Thanks as always, Adam.

  27. 27.

    Freemark

    November 24, 2024 at 8:27 am

    Considering the horrors Russians has committed historically recently and the etching of the Holodomor in the Ukrainian soul how does anyone, much less the ‘smart’ people at the State Dept. expect the Ukrainians to accept any deal that makes them weaker compared to Russia than they are right now.

  28. 28.

    YY_Sima Qian

    November 24, 2024 at 9:01 am

    Just rewatched Mr. Jones today. What is shocking is less the relatively brief depictions of the horrors of Holodomor, but the extraordinary cover up (or willful blindness) by Western journalists based in Moscow, & how much of it was driven by the person of Walter Duranty.

  29. 29.

    Chris

    November 24, 2024 at 11:08 am

    @Thor Heyerdahl:

    The Houthis do have some experience trafficking people.

  30. 30.

    way2blue

    November 24, 2024 at 12:22 pm

    @YY_Sima Qian: Oh gosh.  That film is difficult to watch.  And yes.  The indifference and attempted coverup of the situation by the West is unforgivable yet all too unsurprising.

  31. 31.

    way2blue

    November 24, 2024 at 12:24 pm

    @Jay:   nitter.poast.org is working for me [as of Sunday morning]

  32. 32.

    AWJ

    November 24, 2024 at 12:28 pm

    @YY_Sima Qian: You should read George Orwell’s essays from the 1940s, particularly “Notes on Nationalism” and “Second Thoughts on James Burnham”. Orwell was absolutely scathing about the (British) “mainstream left” of his day and how wilfully blind they were to what Stalin and the USSR were. The middle part of “Inside the Whale” also contains a fascinating glimpse of the intellectual climate of the interwar period, even though the essay on the whole is about Henry Miller, the novelist. Quote from “Inside the Whale”:

    But there is one other thing that undoubtedly contributed to the cult of Russia among the English intelligentsia during these years, and that is the softness and security of life in England itself. With all its injustices, England is still the land of habeas corpus, and the over-whelming majority of English people have no experience of violence or illegality. If you have grown up in that sort of atmosphere it is not at all easy to imagine what a despotic régime is like. Nearly all the dominant writers of the thirties belonged to the soft-boiled emancipated middle class and were too young to have effective memories of the Great War. To people of that kind such things as purges, secret police, summary executions, imprisonment without trial etc., etc., are too remote to be terrifying. They can swallow totalitarianism because they have no experience of anything except liberalism[…]So much of left-wing thought is a kind of playing with fire by people who don’t even know that fire is hot.

  33. 33.

    Geminid

    November 24, 2024 at 2:21 pm

    @Chris: Yeah, and Yemenis in general are dirt poor so they’re prime recruiting material. The Russians are assistng the Houthis with equipment as well as targeting data for their strikes in shipping, so Houthi leaders have reason to help Russia meet its need for cannon fodder.

    I wonder how many Yemenis will sign on going forward. My impression is that smart phones have proliferated in that country,* so the folks back home will find out how the Yemeni recruits are being exploited; also, how fucking cold it is up there.

    * Western cultural forms seem to have spread along with the smart phones. One of the wackiest videos I’ve seen was a Houthi propaganda piece celebrating the capture of a cargo ship. Two tall, fierce-looking soldiers were standing on the deck. Then the music cranked up and the two men started rapping in Arabic.

  34. 34.

    AWJ

    November 24, 2024 at 3:04 pm

    @Chris: “All these people”? At least on this blog, I remember it being just one guy, our resident tankie troll “Bob in Portland”. And I remember him reliably getting dogpiled on whenever he started spewing his RT talking points, whether about Ukraine or Syria. Of course my memories could be rose-colored.

  35. 35.

    AlaskaReader

    November 24, 2024 at 9:56 pm

    Thanks Adam

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