Not much to report other than that dad is in the hospital- had some afib and they are keeping him and monitoring him. That is literally all I know so don’t bother asking for more info. I called and talked to him and informed him that under no circumstance is he allowed to do anything stupid like die, because I just got settled here and my anxiety is under control, and he agreed to behave, so that’s that.
Today I learned that these idiots can spread bird flu through raw milk, so now I can’t just sit back and let the fuckers drink it and shit blood. So that sucks. Really looking forward of spending the rest of my adult life trying to get morons to not do self-destructive shit. We saw how well that went with covid.
War for Ukraine Day 1,006: Glide Bombs Over Kharkiv This Morning, Drone Swarms Over Kyiv, Central, & Eastern Ukraine Tonight
Phein64
I found out this past week that I’m officially an old — I can sit in the handicapped/elderly seats on the DC Metro, and don’t even have to pay for the privilege — and my daughter told me that means my opinion is no longer valid. At some point, I’m going to embrace that and let other people take care of me as if I were in swaddling clothes.
Your dad may have already reached that point. Good luck all around.
Jackie
Hope the hospital is just keeping your dad overnight strictly for observation. 🤞🏻 (fingers crossed for the vision-impaired)
Phein64
@Jackie: They do that a lot when you’re an old. I spent two nights “being observed” three weeks ago, and if they learned anything, they didn’t share it with me.
The worst part is, it was a hypertensive emergency and they put me in the room right across from the nurse’s station, left the door open, and let the light/noise in all night each night. I know it’s not a hotel, but does it have to be torture?
Ryan
“Really looking forward of spending the rest of my adult life trying to get morons to not do self-destructive shit”
Got news for you. Signing up to not let people do self-destructive shit is the mission that we involuntarily signed up for the next 70 years,
different-church-lady
@Phein64:
Tell her to get off your lawn.
Leto
Best wishes for your dad; are you and Joelle doing anything for Turkey day? Even just a low key, grabbing some good Mexican food type deal?
KatKapCC
I don’t understand how people can drink normal milk, let alone “raw”. What are they gonna do next, just suckle on the cow’s udder?
Phein64
@different-church-lady: She’s a doctor of physical therapy who lives our house with our granddaughter. We thought it would be nice to have a live-in therapist, she thought it would be nice to have live-in loving childcare, and we’re all happy, just not as happy in the way I thought we would be.
Steve LaBonne
Afib (I had a spell after a heart valve replacement in 2021) is not terribly dangerous in itself but can have secondary consequence like clots so they’ll want to get it under control. There are meds for that like amiodarone which was on for a while.
Steve LaBonne
@different-church-lady: I think my daughter just tolerates my opinions with good-natured bemusement.
eclare
I hope that your dad feels better. That is all.
Steve LaBonne
@Phein64: Short of a coma, actually sleeping in a hospital is kind of a theoretical notion.
different-church-lady
@Phein64: The only bright side to my hospital stay during the pandemic: I had a room to myself with the door closed.
eclare
@KatKapCC:
Same. I never even ate cereal growing up as I found milk disgusting.
I now have some in my tea, but that’s it. Cheese is sometimes ok.
different-church-lady
@eclare: [takes hand out of Chex box] You know, milk is not mandatory.
KatKapCC
@eclare: When I was a kid, I could eat it in cereal, but the cereal-to-milk ratio was like 50 to 1. And even then, I almost never finished a bowl. (I always preferred hot breakfast anyway, so more often I would have eggs and toast or something.) But drinking it straight, nah. My mom said I stopped wanting milk in a bottle really young. I would drink chocolate milk as a kid, but by my teens that became gross to me, too.
Spanky
@different-church-lady: Gin!
eclare
@different-church-lady:
Hahaha…toast that shit with Wooster sauce and we have some good snacks!
Steve LaBonne
@different-church-lady: I have nothing against milk but I was definitely known to do that with Cap’n Crunch when I was a kid.
eclare
@KatKapCC:
I am forever grateful that my parents were not members of the clean plate club.
I would still be sitting there
Jeffro
there’s a slight chance that if we start calling trumpov “Captain Ivermectin” and posting NFTs of him wearing a cape, the entire MAGA cult will crap itself right out of existence
(or was that a dream I had last night?)
eclare
@Steve LaBonne:
Cap’n Crunch Peanut Butter….yum!
Eric S.
@eclare: Same. We were a hot breakfast family. I can count the bowls of cold cereal I’ve eaten in 53 years of life on my fingers. I ate my share of cream of wheat growing up though.
Jay
When I started at the other place, I guess they has some “incidents”, because some of the shop machinery had non-OEM danger stickers on some of the equipment, (including the industrial shop vac), saying “Danger, do not stick you hand, penis or or lips in here”.
Using a heat gun and scraper, I carefully removed them all, then used Goof Off to remove any glue residue.
Leto
@Steve LaBonne: @different-church-lady: after my motorcycle accident, I was in an induced coma for a week. After that, took me 2 days to “wake up”. Once I did, I didn’t sleep for almost three weeks. Rest? Sure. Sleep? Nope. Too much noise from machines, too many tubes in me, just too much. I was finally able to go to sleep, similar to DCL, when on my second move to the physical therapy ward, I had less crap in me, only one machine, and the entire floor was quiet. This past summer when I had another round of surgery, I was able to get some sleep but it took a while. Even after I got home, a few days later, I still had issues as I couldn’t roll to either side for a while. I really never want to see the inside of a hospital again for as long as I can.
Jeffro
testing…is anyone still up?
Leto
@Jeffro: if you’ve been up for more than 4 hours, go see a doctor.
Eric S.
@Jeffro: semi-lurking as always. 😀
eclare
@Eric S.:
Same here. It was not a meal without meat. So for breakfast that meant bacon.
Jeffro
@Leto: ha, no that’s not it…thanks!
sometimes between the rapid blog posts and me forgetting to refresh my browser, I forget which thread I’m on and/or what else might have been posted.
different-church-lady
@Leto:
OMG, the flip side of that: I had a friend who was in a coma for a month. He said the whole time he constantly dreamed, and his sleeping mind incorporated the sounds around him into the dreams. And the beeping of the heart monitor became someone on the sidewalk outside his window playing the saxophone really really badly. He spent a month thinking, “Oh no, that guy is back with his saxophone!”
He was the kind of guy who could turn being in a coma into a funny story. But for me that would be a living hell.
mrmoshpotato
True.
geg6
Sending good thoughts to Papa Cole.
I just made a delicious fall dinner. Thin sliced cabbage and onions, tossed with olive oil and salt and pepper. Frozen pierogies tossed in same. Kielbasa cut into half in chunks. Tops it all together on a sheet pan and bake at 400F for 20 minutes. Make a sauce by whisking a tablespoon of red wine vinegar, a tablespoon of stone ground Dijon and a teaspoon of honey. After the 20 minutes baking, stir the cabbage, kielbasa and pierogies and drizzle the sauce on top. Bake another 20-30 minutes, top with some rough chopped parsley and serve. It was great. Happy my favorite week of the year!
mrmoshpotato
@geg6:
What type of pierogies?
Avalune
@different-church-lady: oh that’s really awful for that friend but definitely quite funny.
geg6
@Eric S.:
We ate lots of Cream of Wheat also. And oatmeal (with brown or turbinado sugar—yum!). I still love Honey Wheat Cheerios and eat them as a snack, no milk.
Mr. Bemused Senior
@geg6: we have a lot of good cooks around here. Bemused Senior taught me some, but I’m definitely still a journeyman. I have a limited repertoire.
mrmoshpotato
Hope everything winds up being ok with Papa Cole.
geg6
@mrmoshpotato:
Cheese and potato.
Leto
@different-church-lady: so I guess when they were bringing me out of the coma, my brain started doing that to try to tell me wtf was going on. It was probably the worst style of nightmares I’ve ever had in my life. It scared the ever living F out of me, and it took me a long while to work through what they meant. Glad your friend was able to make a funny story out of his, though.
Eric S.
@eclare: Dad ate pancakes every morning. Still does many mornings but he’s borderline type 3 diabetic so branches out to… Other carbs. But that was our thing. I still, if I have breakfast, want a hot meal.
geg6
@Mr. Bemused Senior:
That recipe I just posted is super easy and full of flavor. Went great with a Josh Pinot noir.
geg6
@Eric S.:
I love buckwheat pancakes but it’s hard to find a good mix. If anyone has a suggestion, I’d appreciate it. And no, I will not be making them from scratch.
Eric S.
@geg6: For a while my brother and I had a bowl of Coco Wheats every morning, chocolate infused cream of wheat.
eemom
@KatKapCC:
Thank you, that’s one of about 4 laughs I’ve had in the last 3 weeks.
Eric S.
@geg6: I’m now sure sometime this week I’m going to end up making blueberry pancakes. (Not from scratch)
MobiusKlein
Afib is no fun – I had it for a year+ at age 50something. During height of COVID. A resting heart rate of 150 is crap, and it leads to an enlarged heart. Take care of it, and take care of your dad Mr Cole.
Mr. Bemused Senior
@geg6: Here is a book you might enjoy: Jesse Ziff Cool, Breakfast in Bed
I can make the ricotta cheese pancakes. My grandchildren approve.
Harrison Wesley
@KatKapCC: Please don’t give RFK Jr any ideas.
Mark
I’ve got afib too. Have had it for about 10 years or so.
Kareem Abdul Jabar has it too. He’s had a commercial out for afib medication not to long ago. Probably still on you tube. Describes the symptoms very well.
Layer8Problem
@Eric S.: God, Coco Wheats. My grandmother made that for us and she would send boxes back to us in the New York suburbs. We loved it.
Gin & Tonic
@geg6:
Making them from scratch is absurdly simple. Even simpler if you do some advance prep and store it in air-tight containers; at that point it’s no more difficult than a boxed mix.
Bob’s Red Mill has a very good buckwheat flour, I guess I assume they also have a prepared mix.
Harrison Wesley
My only hospital stay as an adult was in 2015 when I had my pulmonary artery vacuumed out. Got knocked out on a Monday and didn’t even know what planet I was on until Thursday. Interesting, but not something I’d like to repeat.
Ruckus
@Phein64:
As a vet I use the VA and the facility I use is a VA hospital. I’ve been a patient at this hospital and unless you are contagious you sleep in a multi bed room. Now it is big enough that I’ve been the only one in that multi bed room and I’ve been in another that had single patient rooms. So there will be people coming in and out during the night. But at least I could get more than 8 hrs a night of sleep. Possibly living on a moving ship and sharing a room with about 80 other guys for 2 years taught me to exist and sleep in what can only be called taxing sleeping conditions. So 2 things good about it, learning to sleep through most anything and, getting reasonable medical care after getting out. Notice I said NOTHING about the actual
bedhorizontal thing and sleeping conditions. I can sleep now just about anywhere.JCJ
Starfish (she/her)
The antigovernment leftists will give raw milk to their kids because they believe it has magical properties, without understanding HUS and kidney failure.
As someone who has hosted homecoming for years, you probably have a lot of practice in this.
Ruckus
@KatKapCC:
I cannot drink cows milk. I used to be able to, when I was a kid and early into adulthood. But not for decades now. At least there are alternatives now like oat milk. Better for you and tastes about the same. I can eat cereal again!
Jay
@Starfish (she/her)
Raw Milk isn’t even a Granola Hippie thing anymore.
It’s become a MAGgoT thing, a “your’re not the boss of me” thing, a Trad Wife thing, a Homeschool thing , a “Nordic” NAZI thing.
Leto
@Gin & Tonic: they do, it’s pretty good.
@Ruckus: I used to be able to do that. Multiple deployments, being stashed anywhere and told to get sleep, multiple different vehicle types… the accident changed that. /shrug
Kayla Rudbek
I hope that Papa Cole will be okay.
Mark
The little woman went grocery shopping today.
Brought a gallon of milk home for me.
Ruckus
@Leto:
Yeah I don’t really do that any more, my back is not quite useless but it is close, and one of the things affected is sleeping. I sleep on a very firm bed with a thin memory foam mattress. Aw this getting old thing – it’s getting old. Oh well I’m shooting for another 25 yrs so I can be a really, really old fart.
Starfish (she/her)
@Jay: Yes, I hate how horseshoe theory has worked.
Part of this spread of the bird flu in the cows is that the farmers are anti-government so are for sure not letting the government on their farms to see if the bird flu has spread. 🤦🏻♀️
Phein64
@Ruckus: I’m a veteran, too, but not one eligible to use VHA facilities. On the other hand, I inspect VHA facilities as part of their Green Environmental Management System (GEMS) program. No one expects you to get a good night’s sleep, but there is absolutely no excuse for exacerbating the problem.
Leto
@Ruckus: yeah, I just point at everything and say, “All this.” Agree, “it’s getting old.”
Steve LaBonne
@JCJ: True. Another reason why the docs will make sure they get this under control.
TheOtherHank
@KatKapCC:
When I was a youngster my grandparents still had a dairy operation on their farm. I have a distinct memory of being in the milking parlor with my grandfather who was prepping a cow for milking. He told me to open my mouth, pointed a teat at me, and then from a range of about 3 feet shot a stream of milk into my mouth. It doesn’t get much fresher than that.
On a related note, my mom and her brothers grew up drinking raw milk from the cows. When I (the first grandchild) showed up my grandparents got a small kitchen pasteurizer because “the baby can’t have raw milk”. My mom was mildly outraged that she and her brothers weren’t important enough to have pasteurized milk.
Phein64
@Steve LaBonne: Yeah, but it doesn’t have to be that way. Just a little more patient-focus and a little less patient-screwyou. My roommate was an older gentleman (think 50’s, so not older than me) who was crying under his breath “this hurts so bad” when no one could hear him but me, and yet the only time he got any sleep was when I shut the door and quietly chewed out the nurses about laughing and shouting outside our door. They were mortified, but I doubt they’ve changed any practices.
Harrison Wesley
@Starfish (she/her): It’s not just that they’re anti-government. If their cattle are infected they get shut down. Yes, they should be, for public health, but I’m not sure if there’s much financial assistance for them if that happens.
Baud
They should add bleach to raw milk to kill the virus.
rikyrah
🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽for Papa Cole.
Ruckus
@Phein64:
Not getting a good nights sleep is not anything I’ve encountered at the VA, when I’ve been admitted. Now I have used a few facilities in several states and some are different. The one I use now is pretty damn good though and I like/appreciate the care I get pretty well. I’ve had worse in civilian life and have always found the VA to be, for the most part, pretty good.
cain
@KatKapCC: Indians have been doing raw milk and just boil the milk themselves. The reason they don’t do that here is that Americans are stupid. 😅
That said I prefer my milk not be homogenized.
Parfigliano
@Starfish (she/her): Farmers are anti govt except for the govt checks they cash.
Jay
@Harrison Wesley:
they get 90% compensation (wholesale) for the estimated loss of milk production, and the same for any cattle culls.
With the loss of any “costs” for the estimated milk production or cattle sales, they actually come out ahead, eventually.
Farmers bitch about sucking at the teat of Big Government, while sucking as much as they can. Baby Goats are more appreciative.
Baud
@Jay:
DOGE will put a stop to that.
Betsy
@Steve LaBonne: they’re just starting to understand the serious problems that noisy sleepless nights present to people in the hosptial who really need to get better. Some hospitals have implemented quiet/dark programs to deal with the probelm.
Some even have policies now not to wake the patient up multiple times in the middle of the damn night to needlessly draw blood and other unnecessary baloney that harms patients’ rest.
it’s like, what are people thinking
Harrison Wesley
@Jay: What a strange country is the USA. A hundred years ago farmers were lefties. Though we didn’t have the same type of Big Ag that we do now. Except ranching, I suppose.
Jay
@Baud:
Naw, it will just pay them in NFT’s rather than dollars.
KatKapCC
@eclare: Mine weren’t either. As long as you ate some of your meal, if you said you were full or didn’t like it enough to keep eating, that was fine.
Ruckus
@Leto:
I really never want to see the inside of a hospital again for as long as I can.
Who does?
However I get my VA care at a VA hospital. I’ve used a number of different VA clinic locations and some were great, some were OK, some were a bit less. I do find that a VA hospital is the best place to go, even if it is just for an appointment with one’s primary doc.
Gvg
I love milk. I have had some nearly every day of my life. Pasteurized. I do not get the raw milk craze. My grandfather and uncle were dairy farmers. The milking parlor and all the equipment had to be sterilized and they knew so much about how germs spread and infections that could get the cows sick or give them sores that spread from one cow to another via the equipment. A 2 ton cow in pain is no joke and milk production would drop even if the factory would buy from a contaminated farm….they watched things like that very carefully. They had both worked in the cheese factory too and had seen what bad milk did to factory profits as well.
The whole idea of liking raw milk and not preventing disease is not just crazy, it’s anti profit. It’s also endangering the profits of adjoining businesses that are not involved in anti vax anti pasteurization. This need to be attacked from several directions. Not just societies good and scientific but from a money and business and detrimental impact on people who did not make theses choices. Some people will respond more to other arguments. So make sure all of them are presented.
i can’t help saying they are nuts every time the subject comes up though, so I probably can’t be a good spokesperson.
Dan B
@Ruckus: Im seriously lactose intolerant and can’t tolerate cows milk proteins. Sheep and goat cheeses are fine. I love one brand of oat milk so life is good.
Chris T.
@Gvg: My suggestion: set the raw milk price at a floor of $100,000/gallon, making it a Veblen Good and making the dumb people with money buy it and—with any luck—die from the unpasteurized stuff.
Jay
@Chris T.:
Raw Milk is already 51% more expensive that pasteurized Store milk.
RevRick
@MobiusKlein: I used to have episodes of afib associated with nightmares, and once it was so bad I had a vagovasal episode where my bp fell through the floor. That lead to a trip to the ER.
What ended them for me was that I also developed an essential tremor in my hands, and my doctor prescribed propranolol, which is a beta blocker used for treating bp issues.
RaflW
@eclare: I make at least 250 spinach & Swiss/Gruyère scrambles a year, with a side of hearty whole grain toast. Even more often during the lockdown phase. Most days I make it with one whole egg + a scant 1/2 cup of liquid egg whites, so BF and I each average about 3 egg yolks a week (he’s on statins).
I do love a variety of hot breakfasts, I used to go out on my way to the office a couple times a week, years ago. But when the Town Talk Diner closed (run by two sisters, maybe held 20 or 22 guests total) I pretty much stopped.
As to the sameness of daily breakfast now, it’s tasty – I use a nice lemon pepper + smoked paprika, and the TJs shredded cheese blend is the perfect combo with the wilted spinach (I use 2-3 oz. of spinach a day, with stems nipped off – so it’s not just a few leaves for color). And BF long ago said “My life is interesting enough, breakfast doesn’t have to be!”
–
Cereal and milk is for desert about 90 mins after dinner :).
RevRick
@Gvg: I’m with you on loving milk. I use it on cereal and in my coffee. And if it’s not cereal, it’s yogurt for breakfast. And anybody of north of the Alps European ancestry is here today because of ham and cheese sandwiches (at least the ingredients therein). They were the backbone of the calories that got our forebears through the winter.
Ruckus
@Dan B:
I can eat a moderate amount of cheese on occasion, my fav cheese is sharp cheddar and I put parmesan on some meals.
Chris T.
@Jay: That’s not high enough, it needs to be a Major Status Item that the buyers can use to show how rich they are. It’s like saying $1k for a Gucci purse should be high enough: it’s not, $50k and we’re talking…
PJ
@Jay: That 51% increase is to pay for the insurance premiums for the eventual lawsuits.
hitchhiker
Milk? Oh, hell no.
I’m 72, and I don’t think I’ve had a glass of milk since … the 80s? I remember liking it, but then mr h. started bringing home nonfat, which tasted flat and nasty. When I tried to drink 2% or whole milk after that it was suddenly thick and nasty in its own way. That was the end of that. I don’t miss it at all.
Ruckus
@RevRick:
I had a tremor in my hands for decades. I cannot remember the prescription I took for a week but my neurologist prescribed it for my tremor and 4 days in my life long hand tremor was gone. I’m pretty sure it wasn’t propranolol.
CaseyL
Sending very good thoughts of healing and getting-better-ness to your Dad.
Drinking cold whole milk is one of life’s little delights, for me. I’m apparently one of those people who did not develop lactose intolerance growing up, and I’m grateful for it. FTR, oat milk is indeed very good, and if I had to give up dairy milk (please, FSM, no!) I’d be an oat milk girl for sure. I used to love Silk brand soy milk and creamer, but since I became diabetic I avoid anything with added sugar.
The dumbing down of the US mind never ceases to amaze me. We really have arrived at the “Idiocracy was a documentary” moment. The rise of the raw milk mystique, and anti-vax movement… I just cannot comprehend why so many people have deliberately chosen to un-know everything we’ve learned about disease and food contamination over the past 150 years. I don’t have any compassion for them at all, and mostly hope they die off quickly without bothering the rest of us.
NotMax
You really oughta read this here bloggy thing more often.
;)
Ruckus
@hitchhiker:
I am a tad bit older than you and could not drink milk for decades but started a while ago with oat milk and it tastes the same to me and does not screw up my life at all, which cows milk did. Mine may have been lactose intolerance, but I have no idea. I’ve tried some of the other forms of cows milk replacements but they all tasted nothing like milk.
Glidwrith
@RevRick: My family of four goes through four gallons of milk a week. Cheese is Parmesan, provolone, smoked Gouda, Havarti or rarely a dessert Stilton.
NotMax
@RevRick
In the case of my Hebraic forebears: Ham? Not so much. YMMV.
;)
Ruckus
@CaseyL:
Silk oat milk is the brand I use and have been for a while. I tried soy milk and it’s a no go for me.
Mark
I like to drink milk straight out of the jug, standing in front of the refrigerator with the refrigerator door open.
The little woman says it looks bad. But so what, I’m the only one that drinks it.
I’m 67 years old.
NotMax
@FGlidwrith
My quotidian cheese choice for sammiches and burgers is orange rind Muenster. (Bleu cheese as a special treat on burgers now and then when there’s a good sale on.)
May be age creeping up one me but will ask if cheddar doesn’t taste like it formerly did? Used to have some distinctive edge to it; now blander, like eating cheese from across the room.
Jay
@Mark:
Remember the thread earlier how women won’t remarry?
Poster Child.
Jay
@NotMax:
Depends on the Cheddar.
The Kraft Mild and Medium is bland.
Specialty brands like Balderson’s have the taste you remember.
cain
@Ruckus:
This is what I love about where we are. I know my kids understand their diet better than we did and our society has adapted with new kinds of ways to eat food based on what our bodies need.
Mark
@Jay: No I don’t remember it. I spend very little time here and didn’t read it.
It appears this is a major portion of your life though.
KatKapCC
@Glidwrith: Love Havarti. Put it on a ciabatta roll with some spicy mustard, avocado, some greens…delish.
Philbert
@Betsy: “wake up! It’s time for your sleepng pill!” – Mad Magazine in the 60’s
JWR
@different-church-lady:
Back in 2011 I had a serious but not deadly stroke, and for me, all the many hours spent in a dreamlike state I kept trying to turn that $%#& beeping off. But it being that I’m a PC (Windows) person and the beeping box was a Mac, I had no luck. I also had many fractious dreams wherein I kept trying to find my way home, but kept ending up on the porch at the house where my stalking GF lived back in the 1980’s, but that’s a whole nuther story.
JWR
@Betsy:
Boy, not at the hospital where I once convalesced for 4 days. The constant wake ups were like a living Hell. I didn’t get much sleep anyhow, and the one time I did, here came one of the nurses to check my BP or something. It was awful!
Betsy
@NotMax: The big brands all taste like soft orange vinyl.
Get you some specialty cheddar from the case with the fancier cheeses. They don’t have to be the fanciest ones.
There is Dubliner that is a good cheddar-style cheese, and one from a brand called Cathedral City.
Of the brands in the standard huge dairy cases, Cabot is all right. Vermont farmer-owned.
Jay
@Mark:
LMFAO, such open hostility to a gentle jibe,
Joe Rogan Fan Club Member?
Or maybe Jordan Peterson?
You probably also pee directly on the floor in front of the toilet and upper deck the tank from time to time..
Jay
@Betsy:
From time to time, my Safeway sells old white cheddar in a shrink wrap, Store brand, blocks, excellent when they have it. As good as Balderson 5 year or any of the imported English at 1/4 the price. Pretty sure it’s a product of the meat counter. (Packaging, label).
JWR
@NotMax:
You have Trader Joe’s out there, don’t you? Their cheddar here comes in three stages: mild, sharp (my fave) and extra sharp, but I don’t remember if it ever tasted any differently.
Jay
@JWR:
The reason why most cheeses are served at room temp, is because cold, out of the fridge, they have less favour.
NotMax
@JWR
Nope No TJ’s on Maui.
Jay
@NotMax:
Try Mana Foods. Ask at the deli counter.
John Revolta
@Jay: Nice segue
Jay
@John Revolta:
What can I say, I love a good sharp white Cheddar.
In Canada, there is Imperial Cheddar, orange, comes in a tub, spreadable, super sharp.
It was Mom’s treat, we weren’t allowed to touch it.
JWR
@Jay: I’ve noticed that I prefer my sharp cheddar right out of the fridge. Oh well, nobody’s ever accused me of possessing a discerning tongue.
@NotMax: Oh wow! Sorry about that! Maybe they think their island apparel wouldn’t pass the smell test out there. ;) Good luck finding a similar store. In fact, Jay’s got a suggestion just above.
ETA:
Great company you’re keeping there. ;)
John Revolta
@Jay: Good sharp cheddar is good. I like a tangy Swiss or a Muenster too. We’ve got a brand called Tillamook down here which is pretty good and the Kerrygold also too. Bleu, gouda…. it’s all good really.
I love cheese but I hate milk. Go figure.
Jay
@John Revolta:
North of you. Tillamook is gud, when we get it.
John Revolta
@JWR: TJ’s has a good cheese selection at pretty reasonable prices.
This whole conversation has taken a decidedly cheesy turn.
Jay
@John Revolta:
When I lived on Commercial Drive, (Little Italy at the time, now The People’s Republic), The Barabary Coast was a deli/grocery store, still is. Italian. If you went up to the Deli counter, they would give you samples and advice. 24 different cheddars. If you asked they would give you a paper plate with 24 1cm x 1cm cubes of cheddar with toothpicks in them to try. Somehow, they knew what each one was. 6 different Parma hams, etc.
They were happy to introduce you to good food and products.
Rachel Bakes
@geg6: Ployes French Canadian or Acadian mix is really good.
evodevo
@Steve LaBonne:
Watch out for that stuff – I was on it since July 2 to control the afib (which it did) going into my knee replacement surgery, but I took myself off a couple weeks ago when I started to get neurological side effects like head tremor and balance problems (which I have NEVER had). The cardiologist poo-pooed my report of these side effects (“I’ve never heard of that!” even though there are many papers in medical journals on it), so I took matters into my own hands. I have a plentiful supply of anticoagulants, so I’m not worried about that.
Be aware, and don’t let YOUR cardiologist off the hook.
lowtechcyclist
@JWR:
Jeez, even Alabama and Arkansas have TJ’s. Mississippi must suck even compared to the other states in the region.
Chris Johnson
@CaseyL: I just assume they, like antivaxxers, are driven out of Russia on purpose as plausible deniability for killing us all in non-nuclear fashion.
Sort of a ‘cui bono?’ situation, there.
I’m not worried by not having extensive proof of this: I’m willing to shrug and discover one day that Russia was NOT doing this on purpose as hard as they could at great effort and expense. Just seems like it’s a lot more likely they are doing it.
The idea makes the ‘but it will kill us? how is this a thing?’ factor stop being mysterious. A lot of things that are ‘but how can this be, because on the face of it this will kill and ruin us’, can be answered by ‘yes, that’s the point’.
Chris Johnson
@Betsy: I’m ALL about the Cabot. Though I’m not entirely sure it’s not a corporate cheese. If it is they’re positioned on the ‘real’ side of things, and I go for all manner of Cabot stuff. Monterey Jack, sour cream, plain Greek yogurt sometimes, even their American cheese slices… I’ve yet to try the mac-and-cheese boxes they tried to put out. Though I have good things to say about the Annie’s Alfredo mac and cheese. Been a while since I’ve had that kind of unhealthy comfort food, getting too old to mess with it.
Oh: Cabot Seriously Sharp cheddar, with the tartan colors. If you’re not happy with bland cheddar, that stuff is great for supermarket cheese :)
sherparick
@Phein64: And they also come in every hour during the night just to make sure you can’t fall asleep.
Hope your Dad gets better soon John.
sherparick
@Jay: See this chart, where it says “diarrhea and enteritis?” That is babies and young children dying from bacteria in milk. MAGA wants to bring that back as a way of “thinning the herd” of the “unfit.” https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm4829a1.htm