(Bloomberg) — Tesla Inc.’s electric vehicles would be excluded from consumer rebates proposed by California’s governor, a decision aimed at spurring greater competition that’s likely to draw the ire of Elon Musk.
Yes, an expensive luxury good shouldn’t get a rebate — even if Elon and Gavin are gonna fight about it.
Anyway, this gives me an excuse to post this piece about the mournful Facebook post of a Cybertruck owner.
A dentist Tesla Cybertruck owner, Steven Shao, first shared this sentiment on Facebook, which several Cybertruck owners later echoed.
Steven, writing about his Cybertruck ownership experience, says…
“You worked hard, but your kids don’t want to hang out with you, and your friends are too busy to visit. You are getting older every day, and your neck and back are complaining.
You need a man cave, a Batmobile, and a powerhouse, and it would be nice to have something that makes people snap their necks and glare. You want an overpowered, overpriced, over-the-top giant fridge on wheels.
They can’t ignore you anymore.”
If this is fake, I don’t want to know what real is.
Anyway, there’s been a big focus on young men (late teens, 20’s, maybe early 30’s) who listen to Joe Rogan, follow red pill subreddits and generally think they’re entitled to sex/relationships/bangmaids. But this elides the fact that a lot of men who didn’t grow up on Rogan and red pill are still shitty. There are whole subreddits dedicated to the disappointment of women who are over 40 and trying to date age-appropriate men, and man it’s grim in there. There are just a lot of undateable, divorced men who can’t (won’t) understand why their ex-wife and kids hate them, and they just repeat the behaviors that left them without anyone to visit on Thanksgiving in their tarnished IncElCamino.
There are also a lot more man babies than I ever realized, by which I mean men looking for a mommy replacement as a wife. My wife and I just started watching Kevin Can F*** Himself, which is an attempt to subvert the sitcom genre. The main character, Allison, is married to man baby Kevin, who doesn’t listen to her, infantilizes her, and spends their savings on football memorabilia. When Kevin and his pals are on screen, there’s a laugh track and a bunch of lame jokes. When Allison is on her own, it’s bitter, bleak despair and longing. We haven’t finished it, but it’s definitely a document of a time when society as a whole is figuring out that a lot of men really suck. And almost all of them voted for Trump.
MagdaInBlack
“There are also a lot more man babies than I ever realized, by which I mean men looking for a mommy replacement as a wife.”
Been saying this for years. This is why I never remarried.
KatKapCC
Can this be literal? We never got the cage fight between Musk and Zuck. Newsom is only a few years older than Musk and appears to be in much better physical condition.
Geminid
This made me think of the biggest man baby of them all, Donald Trump and his Chief of Staff Susan Wiles.
Gin & Tonic
We must have hit the lottery or something, but our kids really enjoy coming and visiting us, or having us visit them. And in even more lottery-winning, our two daughters are married to men who are not dicks, and it appears that our son has also not turned out to be a dick.
And I have exactly zero desire for an IncElCamino (perfect name for those of us who recall the original El Camino.)
clay
I’ve never heard of this show, but the description sounds absolutely brilliant. I’m going to check it out.
Old School
It looks like the proposal is to exclude electric vehicles that already have a certain percentage of market share. So expensive luxury goods would still get rebates – just not Tesla.
I enjoyed “Kevin Can F*ck Himself.” There are a lot of good performances in that show.
comrade scotts agenda of rage
You wanna see a particularly eye-rolling Angular Toilet on Wheels:
https://www.chevybolt.org/threads/the-cyber-truck-thread.51736/page-9?post_id=995851#post-995851
Second photo.
trollhattan
Saw one the other day at the zoo parking lot–all black wrap and ink-black windows (not technically “legal” here but what the hey?). That way, Clint will never confuse his with another in any parking lot.
Saw zero during our NC trip. Does Elmo have a sad?
Old School
@comrade scotts agenda of rage: Log-in required, but I’m sure the photo is eye-rolling.
trollhattan
@clay: Kind of a hard watch but pretty brutally on point.
zhena gogolia
We saw one on the road as soon as we entered Maine (in September). It looked as if it was about to fall apart.
We just parked next to an ominous-looking sedan that had no words telling you what kind of car it was. I looked up the insignia and was not surprised to see it was a Tesla.
Gravenstone
When all they’re doing is pointing and laughing, you start to wish they would go back to ignoring you.
@mistermix.bsky.social
@comrade scotts agenda of rage: I love me a good IncELCamino roast so I signed up and was not disappointed.
AM in NC
@MagdaInBlack: It’s so interesting, but in our friend group of 5 couples (all marriages of 25+ years), when talking about what would happen after the death of our partners (or the end of the marriage), NONE of the women want to get remarried. All of the men assume they will remarry.
We love our husbands. But we are Gen X, and those patriarchal scripts are deeply ingrained in all of us. And we women are just tired of the extra work women generally do in heterosexual relationships. Because WE TOO are conditioned that way.
We all think it would be easier to live on our own around a group of other women should our guys go. We have the luxury of being financially secure and not needing a partner for retirement, and we have our kids and don’t want more, so we don’t need men for that either. Occasional or even regular male companionship, sure, but marriage/living together? Nope.
I think this view is surprisingly common among educated women these days. And one reason the Christian Right wants to shove us back in the kitchen/nursery
ETA: I guess what I’m saying is, our problem isn’t with men. It’s with patriarchy. We’ve had it. Enough.
KatKapCC
@@mistermix.bsky.social: BA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA omfg
Gravenstone
Every couple years (including this one) somebody sticks a classic El Camino by the roadside with a For Sale sign on it. Guessing they’re asking a King’s ransom because it never seems to sell.
comrade scotts agenda of rage
Deleted as I see MM embedded the photo.
Old Man Shadow
I think our culture encourages narcissism by men and uses misogyny and racism to explain to those same men why they aren’t living the specialest life they deserve.
I grew up in the toxic subculture of white Evangelicalism. So I was taught to Other women. I also learned to hate myself though… Still learning a decade and a half later how to deal with the negative inputs I grew up with. I’m lucky to have Mrs. Shadow and I try to make her happy.
I don’t know. I also know guys older than me who have never left their parent’s house.
Gravenstone
@@mistermix.bsky.social: Check out the r/cyberstuck subreddit for good laughs.
Old School
@@mistermix.bsky.social: @comrade scotts agenda of rage:
Yikes!
karen gail
Speaking of man babies; Jack Smith filed to drop all federal charges against Trump, not sure it will keep him safe. So I expect that Trump will once again ignore what classified means, who knows he may well sell classified documents with totally immunity.
Sister Golden Bear
@Gin & Tonic:
Personally, I think Der Wankpanzer is more appropriate.
TinRoofRusted
@trollhattan: We have one here in northern Manhattan. They actually street park it and usually cannot find a large enough space so end up in no parking zones and get tickets all of the time. It is so ugly, and in no way would be a useful truck. I guess every village / nyc neighborhood has an idiot or maybe hundreds of them depending on the neighborhood. We now know who at least one of ours is.
Jeffro
There are plenty of guys of all ages, married and single and divorced, getting laid or not, who are and always will be “incels”. It’s a state of mind (and not a good one).
Jeffro
@@mistermix.bsky.social: “I am terrified of talking in-person to actual live women-folk”
LOL
(that’s what I would do if I rolled by that sad beta excuse for man-wheels)
@mistermix.bsky.social
@Gravenstone: that subreddit does not disappoint.
I’m sure it’s not the world’s greatest truck, but another factor in getting stuck in the snow is just plain inability/inexperience. Any 4WD/AWD vehicle can get hung up and then it doesn’t matter how many horsepower / how big your tires are / the size of your truck nutz — you’re either digging out or getting pulled out. I grew up where it snowed a lot and I haven’t been stuck in the snow in decades, not because I have an awesome vehicle, but because I know where I shouldn’t drive.
Jeffro
@Sister Golden Bear: ‘Wankpanzer’ always gets the most laughs around the office whenever we talk about Elmo and his “I-can’t-get-laid-to-save-my-life”-mobiles.
‘DePlorian’ is a close second. =)
Layer8Problem
@TinRoofRusted: We have at least one of those here in the southwest Bronx. All who gaze upon it laugh.
Omnes Omnibus
@karen gail: You think Smith filed his motion to dismiss to save himself?
I might need a break from the internet for a few days…
Raven
@Omnes Omnibus: Forget it Jake. . .
Percysowner
@karen gail: It’s a little more complicated than that. He filed it in such a way that the case can be brought back after Trump’s term i.e. without prejudice. If he hadn’t there is a good chance Trump would have demanded it be dropped WITH prejudice and it could never be brought again. Smith has to know he can’t save himself, but he is doing what he can to save the case.
Betty
@Omnes Omnibus: Did he file the dismissal in time so that the charges could be re-filed later?
Edited to add: I see Percysowner answered my question.
CliosFanboy
@AM in NC:
Huh. I wouldn’t fit in then. If my wife passed first i have no intention of remarrying.
Geminid
I wonder what the resale value on those Cybertrucks is like. They’ve been out for a while, maybe long enough to establish a market price for used ones.
Martin
Gamergate is still on the crusade. I’ve been witnessed to some of that first hand myself.
I think the line that captures the whole scene: “They built that strawman, and then it won.”
2 hour video about video games and sad men that want the world to revolve around them. It’s very good, contains some very good media criticism, and reveals that the world hasn’t changed in the last decade. Worth noting, that a lot of people believe that there is a straight line from gamergate 15 years ago to this moment. Not that games are particularly relevant to the moment, but that gamergate was the first real exercise in how to radicalize men online, how to infiltrate communities, how to manipulate the media, and everything we see today are just the graduate course of what the freshmen were figuring out in 2009. Steve Bannon was instrumental in Gamergate. He brought those lessons to a bigger fight.
Easier video introduction to those who missed it all.
Leto
WankPanzer, IncelCamino, and DePlorian are all excellent. We have two of the future rust buckets in our neighborhood, and we comment that they’re ugly pieces of shit each time we see them while we’re walking the dog. I also usually mutter something about, “Economically anxious…” but whatever.
@@mistermix.bsky.social: The amount of WankIncelPlorians photos/videos I’ve seen of them basically stranded on a 1% incline, or just a bit of rough terrain, is too many. Things that my Honda Accord can handle, but this “manly mans” vehicle can’t handle… again, the Rivian being buried in floodwater/mud, and immediately starting right up while on the other hand you can’t get the 1980s designed computer mouse wet is on par with the rest of his lineup.
comrade scotts agenda of rage
@Geminid:
https://www.carfax.com/Used-Tesla-Cybertruck_w10707
Also too, in the 3rd quarter, Der Wankpanzer was the #3 selling EV in the US.
We really are doomed as a country.
Princess
@AM in NC: That’s a really good framing. I don’t have a problem with men. I like men and I love some men. My beef is with patriarchy and the people who benefit from it and uphold it. Tons of men but also a lot of women. They imprison the rest of us.
Shalimar
Fun fact about men who are still shitty: Joe Rogan didn’t have his podcast to listen to when he was becoming who he is now
edit: in other Joe Rogan news, dumbass says he wants Rachel Maddow’s time slot if Musk buys MSNBC. Who wants to tell the idiot that she only works for an hour on Mondays now?
Martin
@Geminid: They’re still pretty high. It’s not like the market for used cyber trucks is expanded from the market for new ones, apart from a slightly lower sticker.
They all have wraps because they’re rusting. Even here in SoCal where I don’t think it’s rained since they started shipping they’re all wrapped and showing rust. Now, I think the issue is that loose iron/steel is bonding to the body and that’s what’s rusting – and the lack of rain here means that we have a LOT of loose brake dust and everything else flying around that doesn’t get washed away to bond to that stainless.
Dave
@clay: it’s good. A bit rushed because it is only two seasons though it really only should have ever been 2-3 seasons. Not perfect but a fun premise done fairly well.
Particularly because Allison is in fact a problematic person herself which is very intentional to challenge the audience on some level.
Baud
@Geminid:
@Martin:
I’m not sure a country that would elect Trump is a country that won’t value cyber trucks.
We can still laugh at them, however.
El Cruzado
Definitely not want to go #NotAllMen but the dating pool past a certain age tends to be mostly self-selected to the kind of people no one would want to deal with for an extended period of time.
Men who are able and willing to stay in a long term relationship do so more often than not.
Medicine Man
Hits close to home because I’ve recently separated after nearly 15 years of marriage and I do worry about becoming one of those undateable men for whom “divorced” is a part of their identity, not a phase of their life. Thankfully, the distribution of domestic labour wasn’t the main reason we split, but they were a feature of some arguments. Enough that simply for my own sake, regardless of whether I ever get close to someone like my ex ever again, I’m working on some of my basic life skills just to feel a bit better about myself and to live a slightly better life under my own direction.
To the original post’s point, I cannot blame women who don’t want to engage with the insane, un-examined assumptions of my gender. I look around and I see a lot of dudes out there who won’t even step over the bar I’m working clearing and resent even the suggestion they should.
Geminid
@Martin: Sounds like those things are gonna start falling apart on highways. Other drivers might start following Cybertrucks at a distance, like you do with a gravel truck.
Old School
@Percysowner:
Smith also is supposed to submit a report on the case. While it may not make it to court, hopefully the evidence will make it to the public.
Mr. Bemused Senior
@AM in NC: widower here, just sayin’
comrade scotts agenda of rage
More on the rusting Wankpanzer:
https://www.torquenews.com/11826/tesla-cybertruck-becomes-extensively-corroded-after-exposed-magnet
trollhattan
@TinRoofRusted: Cripes, in Manhattan? Sounds about as good a fit for the environment as Rome or Tokyo.
jonas
That’s a DeSantis-level “fuck you” flex there from Newsom. You love to see it.
Old School
@Medicine Man: Sorry you’re going through that and hope that you’re in a better place in the future.
karen gail
@Omnes Omnibus: Jack Smith’s statement cited Justice Department’s policy of baring prosecution of sitting president.
Trump has threatened those who prosecuted him from hush money, to rape, to classified documents. His followers have gone after, sent death threats, and harassed not just those involved but their families as well.
JD Vance has pointed the finger at Jack Smith as the one to blame for federal trial, while Trump has blamed the FBI for the raids for recovering documents.
I believe that Jack Smith is on Trump’s “hit list” and even with charged dropped will seek revenge.
trollhattan
@comrade scotts agenda of rage:
IIUC Tesla had been silent on deliveries (vs. customer deposits) and it was a big big recall that revealed as of October, they had shipped but 27k of the beasts.
The recall history, so far, is epic, but not in that ironic way.
For more delicious Schadenfreude, read the whole thing.
Lethe
@AM in NC: Retired to the DR, and the expat demographic is interesting. The usual flaunt-it idiots with gated vacation condos abound. As well as the expected old men looking for young chicas, but the older women…?
I’m 65, and like me, the many single older women here aren’t looking for anyone. They’re living on their own, walking daily to the colmados, going the beach, enjoying coffee by themselves or with a friend.
A friend said she feels her life now is a reclamation of all the things she was promised, after a life of self sacrifice and service to her family and society that gave absolutely no recognition or reward.
Mr. Bemused Senior
My record on prediction is not great so I may as well make another. I call this one a 100% chance. Maybe this will improve my average.
Suzanne
@MagdaInBlack: When I was in my 20s, before I met Mr. Suzanne….. I was dating off and on, and I was frankly floored by the generalized neediness of the men I met. Far more desperate to get married than I imagined.
NutmegAgain
Christ, those are ugly machines.
A Ghost to Most
I’ll let you know if I ever see one up on the high rock roads. Hell, just driving it through a car wash can brick one.
RevRick
On behalf of all dick-having guys I want to offer my apologies to women for all dickish men. Also, too, why my nickname is Rick.
Citizen Alan
@MagdaInBlack: Long before I knew what the word “asexual” meant, I was resolved never to marry because I was afraid of getting into a relationship with someone as emotionally manipulative as my mother and my sister and, once married, I would never be free of them. Loneliness sucks, but not nearly as much as being around people who make you miserable.
p.a
I don’t know if/how accurate or a total joke, but I saw a fbook meme that raccoons keep trying to break into cybertruck beds thinking they are dumpsters.😂
Sandia Blanca
I recently saw a WankIncelPlorian (h/t Leto) on the road in Lakeway, TX, just far enough outside of Austin to claim ranch adjacency. In the back was one large haybale! So country.
Citizen Alan
@zhena gogolia: One pulled up on me at a red light here in Fresno. I really wanted to roll down my window and sneeze on it to see if the doors would fall off.
Stuart Frasier
Sadly, the DePlorian is not uncommon here in Los Angeles. I’ve noticed that most are wrapped now – the bare stainless really isn’t holding up well in the harsh Southern California climate. It will be amusing to see what happens to ones in places with, say, seasons…or road salt.
Citizen Alan
@@mistermix.bsky.social: I am waiting to see a Cybertruck painted to look like the General Lee. That, I think would hit peak loser.
Baud
A rust covered exterior will be considered a status symbol once the propaganda machine has done its work.
Jeffro
@Citizen Alan: short of being painted up in actual WW II Nazi tank camo and insignia, yes, a ‘General Lee’ version would be peak #IncelForLife
(but in their minds, they’d be ‘owning the libs’ SO HARD, so it all balances out…)
Timill
@Citizen Alan: You will be shocked to know that Kid Rock has one…
(no Dixie Swastika on the roof, though. Be grateful for small mercies)
Aziz, light!
There is no shortage of man babies and cyberschmucks on the left. You don’t have to be a Trump voter to be immature or insecure.
Leto
@Baud: “You can’t tell me not to take it through a car wash, libtard!”
Martin
@Geminid: I keep my distance because Tesla drivers are the most likely to cause an accident, which matches my personal experience.
Baud
Even if a woman meets a nice guy, it will soon be impossible to have a relationship with a man without also entering into a relationship with the government that stands behind that man. It’s something women unfortunately need to think about now.
TBone
These things just scream “I have never been busy on a date in a car.”
– some rando on xitter
Baud
@Leto:
“Those are speed holes, they make the car go faster”
Citizen Alan
@Timill: VINDICATION!!! (/Andre Braugher voice)
Martin
@Citizen Alan: This one lives near me.
This is the meme that turned into a meme cryptocurrency that Musk backs, that has turned into a quasi federal agency.
In case anyone was curious exactly how deep the bubble these people want to live in is – it’s pretty deep.
Melancholy Jaques
@Old School:
No doubt there are details that would be revealed in a trial, but I think the public had plenty of evidence and about half said they approved of Trump. None of it moved the needle, as the saying goes, what good would a trial have done?
Martin
@Timill: The look on Trumps face when he was gifted the one by Adin Ross that had the picture of Trump being shot on the side is wonderful.
eemom
@Baud:
Just now? As opposed to the entirety of human history with a few exceptions in the last half century or so?
Miss Bianca
@Jeffro: Either of those terms are acceptable to me, lol. I usually just content myself with pointing and exclaiming, “look, it’s a travelling dumpster!”
Baud
@eemom:
It’s a pretty new concept to women of prime dating age, who benefitted from the fruits of waning liberalism.
scav
The rust is just evidence of their undying support for their orange leader! Real men don’t wear shinkwrap and scoff at getting value for money. If it fails utterly to live up to what it promised, then it’s just more affirmation of their devotion to the cause! They’ll ride both of their plummeting orange gods all the way down.
Miss Bianca
@p.a: I’ve seen that one, hence my preferred characterization of the CyberWank as a dumpster. Or “Trash Panda’s Delight”. :)
lou
@Geminid: Anecdote that I heard from someone and haven’t bothered to verify: Teslas in general have lousy resale value because Tesla owns the software for each individual car. You as the owner can’t sell the software, Tesla has to sell it to the next owner. So basically you’re only reselling the shell of the car.
azlib
Ms Azlib and I have been happily married for 51 years. We had our problems like any couple, but I believe what really helped the relationship was I treated her as an equal. We share household chores and I do most of the cooking. Early on in the 70s she participated in a feminist support group with my support. I have called myself a feminist since the late 60s because I believe women should be treated as equals and given respect just like everyone else. As a society, we throw away so much potential by not recognizing a woman’s talents.
Ramona
@Omnes Omnibus: no. Jack Smith is wrapping up the cases now so that he can issue complete reports to the Biden DOJ. In this way, the Trump DOJ cannot bury these reports away.
Gin & Tonic
@Martin:
Kinda feel sorry for my sister’s husband, very lefty (retired) college professor and a real tech nerd, who bought a Tesla Model S 10-ish years ago, when that was a very cool car and nobody knew that Musk was a Nazi.
Omnes Omnibus
@Ramona: I am not the one who made the absurd suggestion.
TinRoofRusted
@Layer8Problem: Howdy neighbor. When it first arrived we all pointed and laughed, but then we would just roll our eyes. They recently had it wrapped so we are back to laughing.
Ramona
@Lethe: would you recommend retiring to the Dominican Republic?
TinRoofRusted
@trollhattan: Agreed. But then again we also have some dude bro that parks his brand new corvette on the street. I truly do not understand some people. If you want to own a car like that I do not care. But if you do, maybe you should make sure you can afford a garage?
Ohio Mom
I’ve only seen one Cybertruck in the wild and it took me a few moments to register what I was looking at.
They remind me of Humvees in a way. Silly, impractical and over-priced. When was the last time anyone has seen one of them? I expect Cybertrucks to similarly disappear eventually.
Kayla Rudbek
@MagdaInBlack: yeah, if Mr. Rudbek goes first I’m staying single or joining a feminist commune. He’s Kipling’s Thousandth Man
Ramona
@Omnes Omnibus: Oh, I didn’t think you did. I didn’t realize you were being sarcastic when you said you’d have to stay off the internet if Jack’s motivation for closing the cases now was to save his skin and I was hoping to offer you comfort. Now that I look at what I wrote, one could certainly get the impression that I believed you believed Jack is saving his skin. I apologize.
Harrison Wesley
The only Cyberwhatevers I see around here are in hospital or other medical facility parking lots. I don’t want to think too hard about what that means.
p.a
Speaking of assholes in trucks, a question for snowbelters: bigger asshole truckdrivers: landscapers, or snowplow drivers?
I’m undecided- landscapers have the added negative of carting around a (usually crappy) trailer behind them. On the other hand plowdrivers have a potential murder weapon on the front.
Martin
I just realized that people here may not be aware of this.
California is gunning quite directly for Musk. A few months ago the Air Force went to the coastal commission to request approval for more launches for SpaceX at Vandenberg. The coastal commission said no, citing his injection into politics. SpaceX is not a public company, but Musks personally hobby-horse, and the commission didn’t feel that Musks politicization was appropriate. Additionally, the asked why the Air Force was making this request when flights with the US government as customer cannot be blocked by the coastal commission due to the supremacy clause, but the Air Force was asking for increased Starlink missions which the Air Force is not a customer. Why were they here and not Musk himself?
There’s a lot of anger about Musks misinformation campaign that helped bog down CA HSR.
I wish CA would stop subsidizing EVs and keep plowing money into transit. We’ve been making some real progress lately.
Kayla Rudbek
@AM in NC: except for not having kids, I would fit in with you.
Layer8Problem
Is there even one woman who has bought one of these? Not as a gift for a needy male, not as an ironic statement, not as the basis for an incisive artwork.
trollhattan
@Timill: The day is young!
Martin
@Gin & Tonic: My whole city is full of slightly regretful Tesla owners. We were on that shit early on, and every owner I’ve talked to has two regrets:
They love EVs, just not these EVs.
TBone
Should’ve had Elno design them.
Harrison Wesley
@Layer8Problem: I would love to meet her!
Kayla Rudbek
@Stuart Frasier: apparently the front headlights get blocked by snow because they have a horizontal shelf structure, so I’m looking forward to seeing how they malfunction in Midwestern, western mountains, and New England winter.
Layer8Problem
@Harrison Wesley: Yeah, one of the “cool chicks”.
Kay
My husband and I did quite a bit for the Sherrod Brown campaign this last cycle. Sherrod had a campaign worker, Colin Flanagan, who we really liked – no older than 25. We got a thank you note from Co!in today ” yours in so!idarity” – in all my years of doing this no one has ever sent me a thank you note. What a nice guy.
Kayla Rudbek
@azlib: we throw away about a trillion dollars a year because we don’t encourage women and BIPOC inventors.
karen marie
@comrade scotts agenda of rage: Someone may have already pointed out it requires a login. #NotGoingToHappen
Oh, well. My loss!
Harrison Wesley
@TBone: The Trump Guitar? Words fail me.
Omnes Omnibus
@p.a: Trick question. Same people, different season.
trollhattan
@Gin & Tonic: The bread-and-butter ones are EVERYWHERE in NorCal and nobody blinks seeing them, but that truck thingie is such a shriek-y LOOK AT ME abomination it’s going to have a hard time climbing Acceptability Hill.
My fear is not Tesla’s fate but Trump’s forthcoming attack on EVs not labeled Tesla. Charging networks and consumer acceptance are occurring but he can slow that right damn down. CA’s 2035 mandate, I expect shared with a few other states, is a necessary part of the fleet conversion and he’s definitely coming after that, like every Republican president since the 1970s
Seanly
@AM in NC:
I don’t think my wife would remarry, probably wouldn’t even date. Not that I am such a toxic man-baby that I made her swear off men… just she doesn’t see the need for it. When she was starting her luekmia treatmnet she told me she’d want me to remarry. Not 100% sure I would at this point. My widower brother did remarry.
My brother, wife & I are all Gen X. His new wife is Gen Z maybe? She’s like 10 years younger than him?
Baud
@Kay:
Nice. Hope he’s going places. We need good young folks.
comrade scotts agenda of rage
@karen marie:
MM joined and posted the photo. Look back and you’ll see it.
karen marie
@Percysowner: Thank you for this. I’ve been a bit irritated today by people who know better putting out “the sky is falling” hot takes on Smith’s dismissal.
Identifying clickbait and ignoring those people/sites is the first step to recovery.
I haven’t looked to see if Lawfare has commentary on this yet. They don’t always say what I want to hear but they’re not pulling shit out their asses.
Geminid
@Layer8Problem: Ah, a Bronx resident! I saw former Assemblyman Michael Blake just announced for next year’s Mayoral race. Know anything about Blake?
Fun Bronx facts: Laura Nyro used to sing on Bronx street corners with her friends when she was a teenager. She grew up there. So did Annie Laurie.
karen marie
@comrade scotts agenda of rage: Thanks. I didn’t realize that was the picture you were pointing to.
These tiny-dicked motherfuckers need their taxes increased.
Math Guy
@p.a: Snowplow drivers. Within minutes of clearing my driveway, they come along and throw up a two foot barrier of snow and ice blocking us from accessing the street. I swear I see them smirking as they go by.
TBone
@Harrison Wesley: comment on that cease & desist from elsewhere:
Juju
@Baud: It must be nice being a man and not needing to think like that, apparently ever.
Baud
@Juju:
It’s a privilege.
Hoodie
I recently watched a video comparing the Cybertruck to other poorly-conceived vehicles that the creator of the video felt were contradictions of the missions of the companies that produced them. For example, the Edsel was expensive and overly complicated and contradicted Ford’s reputation for repeatable, affordable quality. The Pontiac Aztek was somewhat ahead of its time and presaged today’s crossovers, but it was contrary to Pontiac’s image as the performance division of GM. The Cybertruck is a direct contradiction of Tesla’s original design aesthetic and out of whack with their previous product offerings. He noted that all of the other promised developments from Tesla, including a new roadster and a smaller, cheaper EV, have gone nowhere as development has been hogged by the Cybertruck, which has no features that would be particularly useful for such vehicles. It’s just a vanity project for Musk, who never was a vehicle designer. It probably reflects that he thinks he’s the sole reason for the success of Tesla, not that he was mostly adept at producing and marketing a vehicle that was designed by others. He put stupid constraints on creative designers, which resulted in a vehicle that no one needs.
gene108
The Cybertuck does a useful thing.
It steers people who would otherwise blow their money on gas guzzling sports car or pickup truck for attention to drive an EV.
If you think about Cybertrucks from this perspective, they are not as terrible as people think they are.
apocalipstick
@Omnes Omnibus:
No. He filed to dismiss because he can’t prosecute the President per DoJ policy. Smith said he stood fully behind the charges.
pajaro
@karen gail:
I’ve said this before and I’ll say it again. Biden should be compiling a list of anyone whom Trump has threatened, and should, on his way out the door, announce pardons for each and every one of them. He should add in his kid.
Snarki, child of Loki
My plan, which is mine, is to market a “rolling coal kit” to DorkenPanzer owners.
How is the smoke made? By shorting out the battery.
artem1s
@Citizen Alan:
I spotted one in Cleveland wrapped to look like a Browns helmet. That’s the ultimate ‘loser’ scream.
KatKapCC
@Hoodie: I had a friend years and years ago who had a Yugo. We would good-naturedly tease him about it, and now I kinda feel bad in hindsight.
Geminid
@Hoodie: I’ve thought for a while that Tesla missed a good opportunity to put out a small electric truck. They could have cut down the back half of a Model 3 and added a tail.gate and good mounts for a rack.. The bed would been small, but a cybertruck bed isn’t that much bigger.
There’s been an unmet demand for small pickup trucks of any kind for a while now. I think an electric model would have cleaned up.
A woman did this a few years ago. I wonder of Musk would have paid attention if it had been a man.
Pauline
@AM in NC: I always told my husband that if anything happened to him, I was never remarrying. I was very lucky- he was a unicorn and I knew that I was never going to find anyone else like him. all that patriarchal crap just didn’t exist with him.
He passed away twelve years ago just before I turned 50 and I’ve never even once been tempted to date.
Medicine Man
@Old School: Thank you, man. I didn’t like a lot of what led up to it, but it was an amicable split and I’m pretty sure life goes on, even if I don’t feel it sometimes.
West of the Rockies
The day after my ex told me she wanted a divorce (she left me for an under-employed alcoholic ex high school football player seven years her junior who she said was beautiful), I decided I would not become an angry divorced guy.
I am happily remarried. She and her beautiful beau broke up months later.
Kind of a reversal of the usual narrative.
trollhattan
@Geminid:
Scout? IIUC a division of VW.
https://www.scoutmotors.com/terra
Eric S.
@@mistermix.bsky.social: Mama always told me “Four-wheel drive just means you get stuck in more remote places.”
Geminid
@trollhattan: I’ve heard good things about Ford’s new Maverick hybrid pickups. But they are just beginning to fill the void.
That German truck remonds me of one of the best small trucks of the 1970s. That was Volkswagon’s 4-cylinder diesel truck. They were reliable and economical. I heard that Volkswagon stopped selling them because of political pressure generated by American manufacturers. I’m not sure that’s true, but for whatever reason, they stopped selling them.
Toyota’s small 4 cylinder truck was as good or better, but they stopped selling them here long before they stopped selling them in less wealthy parts of the world. Now their smallest Tacomas are as big as half-ton trucks used to be before had their own growth spurt.
Ruckus
@Gravenstone:
There is always someone who thinks what they bought and overpaid for is kool or great or greatly kool or….
But realistic humans really do understand that just standing out in a crowd doesn’t make you look cool or good. It far more often makes you look completely uncool.
Citizen Alan
@Martin: These are mole people. Seriously, I literally cannot fathom the level of mental illness it takes to pay six figures for a fucking piece of shit truck and then wallpaper it with images of a dog meme. Is there a cybertruck floating around covered in Pepe the Frogs.
karen gail
@Math Guy: I have had the “joy” of experiencing a new level of nasty from snowplow drivers since moving here ten years ago; they have waited and watched me hand shovel out my driveway, wave and fill it. They could have pushed snow to other side of street where there is an empty lot but no they push a street’s worth of snow to my side of road. Neighbor next door sends his sons out; so he isn’t one digging out twice.
Citizen Alan
@Melancholy Jaques: Yeah, at this point, I think Shitgibbon could have won from a prison cell. I am given more serious consideration to the possibility that he is the literal Antichrist.
Citizen Alan
@pajaro: I wonder if Biden could issue a blanket pardon to everyone working for the federal government for any crimes they may or may not have committed in the performance of their duties between Jan 2021 and Jan 2025.
Ruckus
@Old Man Shadow:
I’m old enough that it would now have to be my house, left to me by my parents, to be in the same house.
But this world really is changing and hopefully for the better. Because in my lifetime (born in the first half of the last century) I’ve seen more than enough to convince me that many men seem to think that an external sex organ makes them a far better human than any other. Of course just because they think that
alwaysextremely often means they are anything but.Also do remember that men used to be worse about being the head, in charge, king of whatever. And in the lifetime of humans alive today.
Snarki, child of Loki
@Citizen Alan: “I am given more serious consideration to the possibility that he is the literal Antichrist.”
It is truly ironic that the xtian fundies have pledged their fealty to The Prince of Lies.
artem1s
they are ruining the ‘brand’ of EVs. every coal rolling asshole can now point and laugh and say the whole concept of EV’s is a joke. every venture capitalist will be turned off by Elmo’s ruinous attempt to make EV’s desirable or they will figure EVs are now old news and are done and why put any more money into what will inevitably be another failed attempt to make electric cars marketable. It’s going to set R&D and interest in EV’s in the US back 10 years if not more.
Ruckus
@Hoodie:
Besides one can buy a better truck that seats five and/or is 4 wheel drive, but an electric pick up? Not yet as far as I know. Of course if you’ve ever seen a cybershittruck up close you’d ask what the hell is this thing good for. It doesn’t haul as much as a Chevy/Ford/Dodge full sized pickup, has no more room than a 4 door conventional pickup from the same mfg mentioned above, is ugly in person. It seems to me to be a toy designed by someone who has never bought, driven or needed an actual pickup truck. If it had come out when I owned a business that I NEEDED a pickup truck for, I likely would laugh at it even harder than I do now. It’s a pickup for someone that doesn’t need a pickup and wants to impress someone that will likely never be impressed, because it is not impressive in the least. I’ve seen one up close at a show. It really did not impress me in the least.
jlredford
@Hoodie: re: Musk not being a vehicle designer
Oh, it’s worse than that. He insisted on features that hurt schedule and reliability:
On Tesla’s first car, the Roadster, he made them re-design the seats, dashboard and headlights, and then insisted that it must have a transmission in order to hit 125 mph. No other EV ever had one.
On the Model X, he drove the decision on the gull-wing doors, which took forever to get right and are still a problem
In 2016 he forced them to make the first self-driving demo video, which was completely rigged. It still doesn’t work.
On the truck version, the Semi, he insisted that the seat be in the middle, the worst place for getting in and out, and worst for seeing in the blind spot
The actual revolution at Tesla was the Model S, and that design was led by an actual engineer, Peter Rawlinson, not this hype-ster. Rawlinson then started Lucid, which is building better EVs. The success of SpaceX is largely due to Tom Mueller, who led the Merlin rocket engine design, and Gwynne Shotwell, who actually runs the company and skillfully keeps Musk in the spotlight and away from the engineering.
motoran
Kevin Can F*** Himself is by far one of the best shows on Netflix.