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Bluesky Update

by @heymistermix.com|  November 27, 202410:24 am| 121 Comments

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I wanted to put up a post for Balloon Juice readers/commenters to share their updates/wisdom/handles/tips on  Bluesky.  Here’s the original post on Bluesky basics from Mousebumples.  Since that post, a couple of weeks ago, Bluesky has continued its growth and it’s clearly well on its way to replacing Twitter for non-MAGA politics nerds.

Part of the reason that Bluesky is snowballing is because it doesn’t suck the way that Twitter, Threads, Instagram, Facebook and TikTok do.  The algorithm on those sites is constantly being gamed/trained by the owner (Twitter), by “influencers” (Instagram/Threads), perhaps by China or some 15 year old who just discovered caffeine (TikTok) and by everyone’s grandparents (Facebook).  AOC as usual gets it:

Bluesky Update

Bluesky serves up content the way that a lot of humans want it:  sequentially, by date and time posted.  I have to say that the one downside of this, for me at least, is that the plugged-in politics people that I follow often repost the same thing.  But that’s not much of a downside.

A lot is being made by Bluesky getting to this point with only 20 employees, but in fairness they had a head start as a spinoff from Twitter, and they also have insurance against enshittification because they are a public benefit corporation that isn’t under the pressure that venture-funded startups feel to become a billion dollar moonshot.  The closest analogue to Bluesky might possibly be Wikipedia, but that site relies far more on volunteers that Bluesky.

Hopefully, the success of Bluesky will raise some consciousness about how the demands of VCs that every company they fund become a multi-billion dollar enterprise leads to garbage outcomes.  A modestly profitable company can still create something that people want to use.  Since Bluesky really just needs to cover expenses, I am pretty confident that a modest membership program where being a member buys you extra features will make enough to keep the site funded indefinitely.

Please keep it to Bluesky in the comments, thanks, since I’m going to link to this post when Bluesky comes up next.

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  1. 1.

    dp

    November 27, 2024 at 10:39 am

    I’ve been there a couple of weeks, since deleting my Twitter account, and I just find it a very pleasurable experience.  I have no magic tips, but the ability to just accept a feed without any of the crap is just great.

  2. 2.

    twbrandt

    November 27, 2024 at 10:40 am

    I’ve found lists to be extremely useful in managing the firehose of the main following feed. I have a “friends” feed made up of people I know in real life, the “Balloon Juice” list created by mousebumples, and another “go blue” feed made up of University of Michigan sportsball fans.

  3. 3.

    dp

    November 27, 2024 at 10:41 am

    @dp: Oh, and I’m @donaldwprice.bsky.social, I think.

  4. 4.

    Another Scott

    November 27, 2024 at 10:42 am

    TechCrunch.com (from 10/24):

    […]

    “With this fundraise, we will continue supporting and growing Bluesky’s community, investing in Trust and Safety, and supporting the ATmosphere developer ecosystem,” Bluesky’s blog announcement reads. “In addition, we will begin developing a subscription model for features like higher quality video uploads or profile customizations like colors and avatar frames.”

    The Bluesky team has been quick to tell users that this paid tier will not be like X, where subscribers get exclusive blue check marks and algorithmic up-ranking, making their posts more visible.

    “The way twitter did subscriptions was basically a blueprint for how bluesky shouldn’t do them,” Bluesky developer Paul Frazee posted. “‘Pay to win’ features like getting visibility or having a bluecheck because youre a subscriber is just wrong, and ruins the network for everyone.”

    The Series A round is led by Blockchain Capital with participation from Alumni Ventures, True Ventures, SevenX, Darkmode’s Amir Shevat, and Kubernetes co-creator Joe Beda. The presence of a crypto-focused firm might alarm skeptics, especially since CEO Jay Graber used to be a software engineer for a crypto company, Zcash, but Bluesky has proactively assured users that the company is not pivoting to web3.

    “Our lead, Blockchain Capital, shares our philosophy that technology should serve the user, not the reverse — the technology being used should never come at the expense of the user experience,” Bluesky said in its announcement. “This does not change the fact that the Bluesky app and the AT Protocol do not use blockchains or cryptocurrency, and we will not hyperfinancialize the social experience (through tokens, crypto trading, NFTs, etc.)”

    Graber also announced that Kinjal Shah, a general partner at Blockchain Capital, will be joining the board of Bluesky.

    “[Shah] shares our vision for a social media ecosystem that empowers users and supports developer freedom, and it’s been a great experience working with her. With her support, we are well positioned to grow,” Graber wrote.

    The Techbros and magic beans people always stick their fingers in anything that seems to be growing these days. And their whole business model is to cash out for as much as possible as soon as possible, no matter the consequences to the actual business.

    tl;dr – Enjoy that it’s better, but don’t expect it to actually be different in the long term, IMHO.

    Best wishes,
    Scott.

  5. 5.

    Doug R

    November 27, 2024 at 10:42 am

    This thread seems like a good place to build a database of Bluesky Balloon Juicers?

    @dredecopp.bsky.social

  6. 6.

    narya

    November 27, 2024 at 10:43 am

    I’m @gingerchef. I’m enjoying the site a lot. The influx of new folks has some challenges, but the ethos of “block early and often” helps, and as public figures I followed on the bad place move to Bsky, I’m getting a lot of what I liked before the bad place was destroyed.

  7. 7.

    FelonyGovt

    November 27, 2024 at 10:44 am

    I’m enjoying it a lot, and taking great glee in the block lists, where you can banish multiple MAGA choads, sniveling incels and the like with one click. Hoping some of the sports and other discussions I enjoyed on Twitter back before Elno migrate there as well.

  8. 8.

    dc

    November 27, 2024 at 10:44 am

    BlueSkyers (Has anyone started calling the platform BS and users BSers?) please bridge to the Fediverse, ie. Mastodon:

    To bridge your Bluesky account into the fediverse and interact with people there, follow @ap.brid.gy on Bluesky

    https://fed.brid.gy/docs#bluesky-get-started

    It’s easy to do. I’m @[email protected] on Mastodon.​

  9. 9.

    ArchTeryx

    November 27, 2024 at 10:45 am

    In truth, BlueSky DOES rely a lot on volunteers. It was one such volunteer that pointed out that an account I was responding to was a scam/impostor account and prevented them from ripping me off. Volunteers are who let the paid mods know that high profile nazis joined and they are immediately booted off. Volunteers keep the block lists up to date, especially ones aimed at… well, nazis. They are seemingly everywhere telling people to not feed the trolls, and since that was established from the very first day of BlueSky, it’s a rule most people honor.

    For now, volunteers are what keep BlueSky fumigated and termite-free. Because they never quit trying to get in and eat away at the foundations

    @archteryx.bsky.social. Expect a lot of furry art postings; I have a series up right now with my little Japanese kami (guardian spirit) Kiliki, and her (mis)adventures with her friend Frog. It’s “predator makes friends with their prey,” with a very large twist to it.

  10. 10.

    planet eddie

    November 27, 2024 at 10:53 am

    @planeteddie

    This finally convinced me. Made an account and posted one thing. Can my ADHD handle more than one social media account, oh god….

  11. 11.

    arrieve

    November 27, 2024 at 10:56 am

    I rarely post but I’m @arrieve.bsky.social.

    I rarely got hit with the toxic sludge on Twitter/X because I only looked at the people I followed, and I hated to give up on the communities I found there. But I can’t even remember the last time I looked there. Bluesky is becoming everything I ever liked about the old place.

  12. 12.

    Kristine

    November 27, 2024 at 10:56 am

    @dc: I’m bridged, but confused about how that works. Do my Bluesky/Mastodon posts cross over? What’s the gain?

    I’m ksmithsf.bsky.social (also @[email protected] over on Mastodon).

  13. 13.

    thedeadcanary

    November 27, 2024 at 10:58 am

    Old grandma here.  Very happy I joined Bluesky and am following most of the great people I used to follow on the bad place. Always been mostly a lurker here and over there. However, I haven’t posted anything and yet I have 10-15 followers. Are they bots? How do they glom onto someone’s feed who hasn’t posted anything yet? Otherwise, delighted with the new place.

  14. 14.

    dc

    November 27, 2024 at 10:59 am

    @Kristine: You just gained one follower, me :)

    Mastodon accounts also have to bridge to be able to comment on BlueSky accounts. I am bridged.

    I followed your Mastodon account too.

  15. 15.

    marcopolo

    November 27, 2024 at 10:59 am

    Not on bluesky but I follow some folks from the outside (did the same thing on xshitter for years tho I think just about all my follows there have now migrated).  Hope this post is right that bluesky will not have problems covering expenses as they get larger (if they can do it without some form of “ads” I will be pleasantly surprised.  A larger issue of concern as they’ve grown is verification of accounts.  The method bluesky promotes is to use your domain (as if all of us have a registered domain) in your bluesky handle.  That just doesn’t seem workable as more and more folks (and scammers) join.  There are also attempts at community verification (see Hunter Walker on bluesky for that) that folks posting from an account are who they are.  Not sure how well that will work in the long run.  Last but not least, second Another Scott on how the long term development of the platform works out.  Enshittification is a thing that seems to be closely aligned with the way a lot of humans think.  The Bluesky folks will say “well, if  you decided you don’t like where we are going, the ATP allows you to pick up and go elsewhere,” but I honestly don’t understand how it works well enough and how the all important “critical mass of users” would persist through that.

    Wishing everyone a lovely Thanksgiving.  No idea where we will be a year from now so make it a good and enjoyable one!

  16. 16.

    jeff47

    November 27, 2024 at 11:00 am

    For those like me who were looking for Major^4’s previous post with starter packs, etc:

    https://balloon-juice.com/2024/11/12/and-now-a-long-bluesky-post/

  17. 17.

    Omnes Omnibus

    November 27, 2024 at 11:02 am

    @thedeadcanary: Some people automatically follow back if you follow them.

  18. 18.

    Central Planning

    November 27, 2024 at 11:02 am

    [email protected] here (or there)

    Somewhere there’s a list of BJers over there. Was that something Rose did recently?

  19. 19.

    Kristine

    November 27, 2024 at 11:03 am

    @arrieve: I agree. I’m on Threads, but it’s not the same and the IG instant crossover was a mistake. I tried Spoutible and at least one other Twitter substitute and none of them felt right. On Bluesky, I’m seeing the same folks I followed on Twitter and I think that’s what’s making it feel like the old place.

    Oh, and the block hammer. Been using that a lot. It’s also easier to report impersonation accounts—I’ve reported/blocked 2 so far. One unfortunate byproduct of increasing popularity is the influx of garbage but the block lists really help.

  20. 20.

    oklahomo

    November 27, 2024 at 11:04 am

    I can tell it’s had a sudden growth spurt — got my first 2 shady DMs last week from people trying to scam for money (after being on it for a year now).

  21. 21.

    thedeadcanary

    November 27, 2024 at 11:08 am

    @Omnes Omnibus: Thanks. But the followers are not anyone I have followed so mystery remains. But I will follow you!

  22. 22.

    Baud

    November 27, 2024 at 11:09 am

    one downside of this, for me at least, is that the plugged-in politics people that I follow often repost the same thing. But that’s not much of a downside.

    Agree.

  23. 23.

    MattF

    November 27, 2024 at 11:10 am

    Bluesky seems pretty good, despite the looming crypto clouds… Many migrants out of X/Twitter, effective blocking, easy to join up and lurk. I’d use a dedicated ‘news’ feed, if there was one.

  24. 24.

    Paul in Jacksonville

    November 27, 2024 at 11:11 am

    I don’t do X, and I don’t do Bluesky. It seems to me that a Venn diagram would show two circles that do not intersect anywhere? Any help would be appreciated.

  25. 25.

    Kristine

    November 27, 2024 at 11:12 am

    @dc: Followed you back on both places.

    Sometimes you need to explain things like I’m five—I’ve added my BS account to the fediverse BS whatever they’re doing. How do I bridge from Mastodon to Bluesky?

  26. 26.

    dc

    November 27, 2024 at 11:15 am

    @Kristine: To bridge from Mastodon:

    To bridge your fediverse account into Bluesky and interact with people there, search for and follow @[email protected]. That account will then follow you back. Accept its follow to make sure your fediverse posts get sent the bridge and make it into Bluesky.

    https://fed.brid.gy/docs#bluesky-get-started

  27. 27.

    MattF

    November 27, 2024 at 11:17 am

    And… BlueSky now has the World Bollard Association, so I’m sold.

    ETA: Which I’d link to if I knew how.

  28. 28.

    Tarragon

    November 27, 2024 at 11:18 am

    @thedeadcanary: There are certainly spammers who are trying to get engagement. I had a follower about ten minutes after opening my account. The profile made it clear they were a crypto booster / scammer[1] and I blocked them.

    [1] I’m not sure that there is a difference.

  29. 29.

    Montanareddog

    November 27, 2024 at 11:19 am

    I don’t apply the block lists because I fear they can be gamed. But I may consult them and check the content posted by the accounts myself before taking a blocking decision. For prima facie contentious replies to my (rare) posts or my follows, I will also check before blocking.

    But I think I get more satisfaction from identifying trolls and MAGAts and blocking them than from a lot of the positive content. Says a lot about me, I guess.

  30. 30.

    Time Travelin

    November 27, 2024 at 11:21 am

    I miss the porn bots and Temu ads but not the infinite variety of “cRyHArdEr lib” replies.

    @itsnotbread.bsky.social

  31. 31.

    Wag

    November 27, 2024 at 11:23 am

    I’m on Bluesky

    @wsr3.bsky.social

  32. 32.

    The return of Mo Salad

    November 27, 2024 at 11:24 am

    Please fill out some profile basics before following everybody. The code word is Jackal.

    While I am pretty sure who pabf-librarian is, I have no clue on others.

    I run two starter packs and am in a couple of others and bad actors are starting to drift in and see the lists as easy targets.

    Example, cryptobros trying to add everyone from my Tax CPA list get blocked immediately.

  33. 33.

    weasel

    November 27, 2024 at 11:25 am

    I’ve been having a blast and have already connected with a lot of jackals. Been trying to add to the conversation with bird pictures, tagged with #BackyardBirding, and music posts about songs I enjoy/am listening to at the moment, tagged with #MusicalOfferings. However, I’ve found I’ve gotten the most engagement with quote posts of political matters, often ones by front pagers from here :)

    I’m @satanley.bsky.social there (the first ‘a’ is silent :)

    Some small gripes. Coming from Mastodon, I find the character limit a bit restrictive and lack of alt-text on many images annoying.

  34. 34.

    Omnes Omnibus

    November 27, 2024 at 11:26 am

    @Montanareddog: I don’t use the block lists nor do I wholesale follow starter packs.  I am a smol enough bean that I look at the account and a few posts from it before I block.  Everyone can have a bad day or lose their temper.  Obvious Nazis, TERFs, etc. excepted.

  35. 35.

    Rose Judson

    November 27, 2024 at 11:28 am

    @Central Planning: Not me, but Mousebumples. Here’s the starter pack! There may be others.

  36. 36.

    randy khan

    November 27, 2024 at 11:31 am

    Facebook lately has been serving up a bunch of posts from, well, I don’t quite know what they are, but let’s call them groups that look like they’re related to my interests but that I’ve also never heard of before.  The posts all are nicely designed with good copy, but in truth I get plenty of art and architecture from people and groups I already know, and these new intruders seem to take up a huge chunk of my feed.  It’s kind of strange how they appeared so suddenly, and I’m spending a fair amount of time hitting the “less like this” button, but so far to no effect.

  37. 37.

    Baud

    November 27, 2024 at 11:32 am

    @Omnes Omnibus: Same. Haven’t had the need to use a block list. I’ve unfollowed a couple of people.

  38. 38.

    Kirk

    November 27, 2024 at 11:33 am

    I’m curious, is it employees and volunteers, or is it employees, contractors, and volunteers?

    There’s a bit of longstanding resentment in the industry beginning to peek out from the industry. Software engineers become employees. QA is usually contract. Moderators are usually contract if they’re not volunteers. It’s a class thing due to not only wages but access benefits and social niceties being tied to the tier.

  39. 39.

    Sister Golden Bear

    November 27, 2024 at 11:34 am

    @Montanareddog: If you’re not sure about using a particular block list, you can always select “mute” instead of “block,” which still allows you to see the muted accounts and unmute them as desired.

    The trade-off is that muted accounts can still see your posts and/or follow you. I’m hoping that BlueSky will add the ability to simply remove a follower, a la what Twitter does, which would be useful in dealing with folks who set out to follow huge numbers of accounts in hopes of getting follow backs to boost the number people following their account. (It’s a clout farming technique from Twitter, which doesn’t actually work on BlueSky, but it’s still annoying.)

  40. 40.

    piratedan

    November 27, 2024 at 11:42 am

    it’s kind of weird… for reasons unknown, I am classified as a BlueSky elder…

    some methods of madness…

    1. fill out your profile with a synopsis of who you are or want to be, list influences or favorites.
    2. get an icon pic of some kind
    3. if you are unsure of someone, click on them and see what they have posted (if anything)
    4.  you can allow someone you’re unsure about, but if they turn sour you can mute them or block them and they stay muted and/or blocked to you until YOU decide otherwise.
    5. you control what feeds you follow and who you choose to follow.  If you want to lay back, that is okay, there’s no “right” way to do this.  If you’re unsure what to look at, there’s a Discover Feed that pretty much is the garden hose of content.

    I have no idea on why I have as many followers as I do, I’m not seeking any kind of public clout, I just vent politically, snark and share cool stuff that I have feeds for on my specific interests.  Sometimes people follow back simply because I will engage in conversation.  It’s like sitting at a bar, you see an ad, you say something snarky and your neighbors laugh and say thank you for the laugh… reverse is true as well.

    you get what you put into it.  There are some tools that allow you to block groups wholesale (but you have to trust the originator) and follow groups wholesale.  Not everyone posts something every day.

    If you DO post pics and videos, please avail yourself of using alt text, its considered a courtesy to document what your video/picture is of (snark is allowed here as well).

    and if you feel the need, I am Piratedan7 and if you’re a jackal, I do follow back.

  41. 41.

    ArchTeryx

    November 27, 2024 at 11:48 am

    @piratedan: Honestly, the biggest problem I’ve had is remembering to put ALT text in my pics. That I can’t edit them to add the alt text post hoc is maddening, but no different than Xhitter in that.

  42. 42.

    Omnes Omnibus

    November 27, 2024 at 11:49 am

    @piratedan: I am classified as a BlueSky elder…

    Depending on who is doing the defining, it is either the first million users or anyone who joined during the invitation only time.  I was somewhere around 122000.  With the numbers signing up, I am closing in on the first 1%.

  43. 43.

    Baud

    November 27, 2024 at 11:49 am

    @ArchTeryx: There’s a setting in Blue Sky you can turn on where it reminds you to add alt text before you post.

  44. 44.

    TheOtherHank

    November 27, 2024 at 11:50 am

    I don’t post much here or on bsky, but I’m theotherhank.bsky.social over there.

    With the news yesterday that some AI startup was bragging about how they had scraped something like a million skeets for use as a training set (which means that there are probably a bunch doing it that are smart enough not to talk about it), I’m thinking about writing a bot that posts random words strung together. Since LLM AI is really just fancy autocomplete, adding noise into anyone scraping to find out what words often follow other words would be good. And scrapers doing actual useful things (they do exist), should skip over the nonsense in my bot account

  45. 45.

    dexwood

    November 27, 2024 at 11:50 am

    [email protected]

    Joined a few weeks ago and enjoy checking jackal activity. Like the Discover feature, too.

  46. 46.

    Omnes Omnibus

    November 27, 2024 at 11:50 am

    @ArchTeryx: You can set it so it requires ALT.  I did that.

  47. 47.

    ArchTeryx

    November 27, 2024 at 11:55 am

    @Baud: @Omnes Omnibus: That’s VERY useful to know. Thank you, Baud, Omnes!

  48. 48.

    encephalopath

    November 27, 2024 at 11:56 am

    The only way Facebook is tolerable is forcing it into chronological mode and using an ad blocker. Otherwise it’s nothing but ads and AI generated trash.

    There is no option for chronological mode anymore. You have to put in the URL directly:

    https://www.facebook.com/?sk=h_chr

  49. 49.

    Chris

    November 27, 2024 at 11:56 am

    @dp:

    I have no magic tips, but the ability to just accept a feed without any of the crap is just great.

    I’ve never been on Twitter, but this is what’s made Facebook borderline unusuable.  The feed these days is just jam-packed with right-wing bots and ads, and no matter how many times I delete and block an account, there’s always more, and oftentimes shoving the exact same meme at me that I just deleted.

    Yeah, I’ll probably get on Bluesky at some point.

  50. 50.

    glc

    November 27, 2024 at 12:00 pm

     

    Since Bluesky really just needs to cover expenses, I am pretty confident that a modest membership program where being a member buys you extra features will make enough to keep the site funded indefinitely.

    That’s not how VC funding works. The only actual constraint is the status as a PBC and it’s a very weak constraint. If they implement “easy exit” and then leave it in place, the issue may be moot. But it would be odd if they did in fact leave it in place in the long run, since switching costs are the main driver of profitability.

  51. 51.

    Geo Wilcox

    November 27, 2024 at 12:06 pm

    @FelonyGovt: be careful with block lists,  bad operators are inserting good people onto them.

  52. 52.

    Kay

    November 27, 2024 at 12:08 pm

    I’m enjoying lurking on Bluesky.

    On another topic, what about MacKenzie Scott to back a small, high quality news org? She seems to invest in interesting things no other fancy people do. Unconventional. Maybe instead of one big we can get a few smaller – Propublica + 1 + 2 + 3 etc – real competition! a real media market! Imagine that.

  53. 53.

    Professor Bigfoot

    November 27, 2024 at 12:08 pm

    @twbrandt: wait, what? There’s a Baloon Juice starter pack? <scurries over to Bluesky> THERE IS, THERE IS!!

  54. 54.

    Bulgakov

    November 27, 2024 at 12:10 pm

    I spent much of 2023 shamelessly begging for a BS invite. Finally got one in Sept. 23. I enjoy it so much more than Twitter for many of the reasons listed above. On BS I’m @karmasdad.bsky.social. Same name on Twit. My nym here came long ago when I still fancied myself an upcoming Slavic scholar. Those days are long gone.

  55. 55.

    PST

    November 27, 2024 at 12:12 pm

    Since Bluesky really just needs to cover expenses, I am pretty confident that a modest membership program where being a member buys you extra features will make enough to keep the site funded indefinitely.

    I’ve made the switch and am very happy about it. Almost everyone I followed on X is there, including my daughter, who had (from my point of view) inexplicably fallen silent. I worry, though, about the economic viability of the enterprise. I don’t want to devote too much effort optimizing my Bluesky experience if it is going to fail. Mr. Mix, what gives you the moderate confidence that a membership program will do the trick? Do you have a back-of-the-envelop calculation? I’d pay to join

    I’m @pst1953.bsky.social

  56. 56.

    slybrarian

    November 27, 2024 at 12:15 pm

    I’ve been around Bluesky since earlier this year and agree that it’s much more pleasant, from both a technical and ease of use standpoint, and in the community. Maybe that latter will change but the tools make it a lot easier to block creeps and chuds. I’m @slybrarian.bsky.social

  57. 57.

    Kristine

    November 27, 2024 at 12:16 pm

    @dc: Okay. Found brid.gy over on Mastodon and followed.

    I did follow them on Bluesky a week or more ago but I searched on the linked handle (@[email protected]) on Mastodon and it didn’t show up.

    I know they’ve been slammed with requests so maybe they haven’t gotten to me yet, but so far I’m not connecting.

  58. 58.

    Aziz, light!

    November 27, 2024 at 12:17 pm

    Blocklists are handy for nuking dozens of MAGA trolls with one click, and there are many other blocklists. The growing problem is carelessness or malice by people creating blocklists who include users who aren’t representative of the people on the list and don’t deserve to be blocked. People also create lists to attack whatever group they don’t like or have some personal peeve about, such as NAFO (Ukraine backers who troll Putin supporters), a favorite group of mine. Some blocklists are the equivalent of phoning in a SWAT mission against your noisy neighbors. The advice that’s being given is to use due diligence in assessing who is publishing a blocklist and what their motives or biases may be.

    The MAGA scum are cockroaches who are miserable over at Shitter without liberals to torment, so they will keep flooding into Bluesky. The other inevitable invaders are the crypto and AI scammers, medical quacks, christofascists, and much more such societal detritus.

  59. 59.

    Kristine

    November 27, 2024 at 12:19 pm

    @randy khan:

    It’s kind of strange how they appeared so suddenly, and I’m spending a fair amount of time hitting the “less like this” button, but so far to no effect.

    I’m seeing the same, especially on the phone app. In one case, I was following the actual artist, and his posts got bumped in favor of accounts that did nothing but repackage his posts.

  60. 60.

    Kristine

    November 27, 2024 at 12:22 pm

    @ArchTeryx: You can go into your Settings and click Accessibility and check “Require alt text before posting.”

    Aaaand I see others already responded.

  61. 61.

    Aziz, light!

    November 27, 2024 at 12:22 pm

    It’s a mystery to me why so many people are following me on Bluesky, as I do relatively little posting there, same as here. Does anyone have an explanation for this?

  62. 62.

    Kristine

    November 27, 2024 at 12:24 pm

    @Aziz, light!: I think it’s mostly mass following of the BJ lists. There are A LOT of lurkers out there.

  63. 63.

    coin operated

    November 27, 2024 at 12:26 pm

    @encephalopath:

    If only that worked on the mobile app. FB has gotten to be as unfriendly as Twitter/X

  64. 64.

    dexwood

    November 27, 2024 at 12:27 pm

    @dexwood: ​
      Of course I did that wrong.
    @dexwood.bsky.social

  65. 65.

    Geminid

    November 27, 2024 at 12:31 pm

    @Kay: A wealthy Albermarle County, Virginia couple* are funding Virginia Mercury, a site covering.Vurginia news. These types of sites don’t seem require a lot of money. Another one, Cardinal News, has good coverage of Southside and Southwest Virginia and I don’t think they have wealthy backers.

    * The couple are big Democratic donors at the state level. They made some news during the 2017 Governor’s race when one of them gave $100,000 to Ralph Northam and the other gave $100,000 to his opponent, Tom Perriello. “A House Divided” read one headline.

    My friend Joan knows the woman. She doesn’t just write checks; she’s an attorney and prepares to help out on the legal front every election.

  66. 66.

    narya

    November 27, 2024 at 12:32 pm

    I’ve clicked on blocklists to see who’s on them, and then chose the specific accounts I want to block.

  67. 67.

    MrPug

    November 27, 2024 at 12:33 pm

    So, right below this post about using Bluesky is a post with a link to, of fucking course, Twitter.  Please for the love of God just stop helping Musk and find a link to whatever you found at Twitter and provide the link to the underlying story.  Jebus.  What will it take already?

  68. 68.

    Nancy

    November 27, 2024 at 12:34 pm

    I’m Nancy here and Nanzee on Bluesky. This is as creative as I get and still remember who I am. I like some of your exotic names but I know my limits.

  69. 69.

    Zzyzx

    November 27, 2024 at 12:34 pm

    I’m zzyzx.bsky.social. Go figure.

    My quick guide to building a robust feed is to find @faineg.bsky.social and @golikehellmachine.com . They both post a lot but have a lot of interesting people in their comments. Read replies and you might find new cool people.

  70. 70.

    Ken

    November 27, 2024 at 12:34 pm

    As a Bluesky reader but not member, I’ve spotted two main differences from the Other Places:

    1. Bluesky doesn’t ask you to click-sign a terms of service with a million sub-clauses, one of which undoubtedly refer to your first-born child’s soul.
    2. Without “the algorithm” pushing you places, you have to build your own list of posters you like. Which isn’t too tricky, since your current posters are probably linking posts from people you might also like.
  71. 71.

    Kristine

    November 27, 2024 at 12:38 pm

    @encephalopath: Thanks for that!

  72. 72.

    Zzyzx

    November 27, 2024 at 12:39 pm

    The funny thing is that the Phish/GDead/Jamband community pretty much moved overnight after the election.

    I had been active there and managed to finally get to about 1000 followers around the time of the election. I now have close to 3k from the last few weeks.

  73. 73.

    montanareddog

    November 27, 2024 at 12:40 pm

    @Geminid:

    They made some news during the 2017 Governor’s race when one of them gave $100,000 to Ralph Northam and the other gave $100,000 to his opponent, Tom Perriello. “A House Divided” read one headline.

    That would be divided over 2 Dem candidates in the primary, though, not a Dem and a Republican, correct?

  74. 74.

    dc

    November 27, 2024 at 12:42 pm

    @Kristine: ​
     
    It’s unfortunate that the bridge is not default and opt out. The more different platforms connect, the better for all.
    I believe it’s an individual account doing the bridging.

  75. 75.

    AnonPhenom

    November 27, 2024 at 12:43 pm

    Uncle Ebenezer posted a link to *clearsky* app showing stats on accounts being blocked on bluesky that looked interesting and useful.
    As Xitter sinks the trolls will come-a-calling. Having a master list could prove useful.

  76. 76.

    Baud

    November 27, 2024 at 12:48 pm

    @Geminid: I’m hoping we’ll see new investment in media to serve us in the next couple of years. Perhaps one side effect of the Bluesky craze is that people will see that there’s a potential untapped market here.

  77. 77.

    @mistermix.bsky.social

    November 27, 2024 at 12:57 pm

    I put up this post and then went to the gym, but I want to thank everyone for staying on topic.

    Also, I didn’t know they took a round of VC funding.  Insert sad face here.

  78. 78.

    Betty

    November 27, 2024 at 1:02 pm

    I see the problem with the Bluesky model is the phrase “moderately profitable”. Who wants that? Not our private equity, hedge fund dudes, for sure.

  79. 79.

    Aurona

    November 27, 2024 at 1:06 pm

    Good for you all. I’m not going there because: Jack left when Russian money (starting at $15M) entered the chat and he didn’t like where the IPO was going. Also, another social media founder went there to test it out, and got called a n****r, and deleted his post, not returning again. So no Bot Sentinel to keep out the creeps is like X. I’m sticking with Spoutible; organically grown, no Russian $.

  80. 80.

    dc

    November 27, 2024 at 1:16 pm

    @Aurona: ​
      Is there a way for Spoutible and Mastodon accounts to follow each other?

  81. 81.

    Kayla Rudbek

    November 27, 2024 at 1:17 pm

    @PST: I wonder if the funding model will be like Dreamwidth (I’ve been there since LiveJournal was bought by the Russians).

  82. 82.

    Starfish (she/her)

    November 27, 2024 at 1:17 pm

    @Aurona: There are some stubborn folks on Mastodon, including some black folks who are not going to be run off by racist white trans folks.

    They said that there is a group called BlackSky that has been involved in creating the tools for BlueSky, and those have made BlueSky more useful than all the other platforms.

    Here is a blog post by the person who created BlackSky.

  83. 83.

    gimleteye

    November 27, 2024 at 1:18 pm

    @Kay: 19th News has a pretty impressive donor list. There was a great PBS Independent Lens documentary on them earlier this year, which is how I discovered them.  PBS has paywalled the doc, but here’s a link if anyone is a Passport member.

    https://www.pbs.org/independentlens/documentaries/breaking-the-news/

  84. 84.

    Baud

    November 27, 2024 at 1:18 pm

    @Starfish (she/her):

    When I click on suggested feeds, BlackSky is one of the options. I haven’t subscribed to any feeds yet except Science, so I don’t know what it’s like.

  85. 85.

    Baud

    November 27, 2024 at 1:19 pm

    I do know you can follow Threads on Mastodon and you can bridge Mastodon with Bluesky, but I don’t know if you have bridge Treads with Bluesky.

  86. 86.

    different-church-lady

    November 27, 2024 at 1:20 pm

    Do I really have to explain this?

    Yes, I have to explain this:

    In time Bluesky will become just as shitty as all the others of its type. 

    Christ sake people, don’t put your eggs in  another cement mixer.

  87. 87.

    Trollhattan

    November 27, 2024 at 1:22 pm

    Kiddo’s WT Shermanesque exploration of the South continues over Thanksgiving break. Today she texts from Georgia “Just saw my first 100′ confederate flag.”

  88. 88.

    Baud

    November 27, 2024 at 1:23 pm

    @different-church-lady: Possibly. I think the big test will be when businesses and mainstream news move over.

    But so what? People are going to use something to connect.

  89. 89.

    a thousand flouncing lurkers (was fidelio)

    November 27, 2024 at 1:24 pm

    @Geo Wilcox: I have found the block lists rahaeli.bsky.social has assembled to be reliable—she did Trust & Safety back in the day at Livejournal, and is one of the people behind Dreamwidth. She’s been advising the T&S people at Bluesky, and is pretty careful about the lists she sets up—and won’t advise a list unless she’s vetted it.
    She has some good advice on steps to take when checking someone before you follow, and some information on scams that will make your hair stand on end.  But check even hers—it’s good practice.
    Don’t automatically followback, and check replies as well as posts—some very bad people have learned to keep their posts bland while their replies would frighten the things that live in cesspools.
    I’m on the starter pack list, but if you didn’t follow that, I’m fidelioscabinet.bsky.social.

  90. 90.

    twbrandt

    November 27, 2024 at 1:29 pm

    @different-church-lady: right now, I find it useful. When it ceases to become useful, I’ll leave, just like I left facebook some years ago and left twitter when Elon bought it.

  91. 91.

    Trollhattan

    November 27, 2024 at 1:30 pm

    Hey everybody, just found our Johnny Unbeatable!

    “A longtime ally of former New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo has held early discussions with potential donors about setting up a big-money group that could boost a possible run for mayor of New York City,” the Wall Street Journal reports.

    “The talk of an independent expenditure committee is the latest step toward a comeback by the Democrat, who resigned in 2021 in the wake of a sexual harassment scandal and an impeachment investigation. Cuomo this year registered to vote in Manhattan, has made speeches at houses of worship in the city and met privately with officials and labor leaders. He has denied wrongdoing.”

    New York, not sending their best. (Okay, special dispensation for AOC.)

  92. 92.

    Geminid

    November 27, 2024 at 1:40 pm

    @Baud: Social media provides a good means for news sites to propagate content. An example would be the Northwest Progressive Policy Institute and its site Cascadia Advocate. They cover political and other news about Washington state. They have their own website, but I access them through Twitter.

    If there is a breaking story somewhere I’ll sometimes check out the Twitter accounts of local TV stations. They’re all on Twitter now, but I expect they’ll add BlueSky accounts before too long.

    News aggregator Laura Rozen has introduced me to a lot of sound journalists from many different countries, as well as the news organizations they write for. Rozen is a good journalist in her own right, but for my purposes she’s a good aggregator and curator of other trustworthy journalists.

    Rozen’s own long-form work can be found on her Diplomatic Substack. I found Rozen through Cheryl Rofer. I may not agree with everything Rofer says, but I trust her judgement in this area. Cheryl Rofer left Twitter for BlueSky, while Laura Rozen is on both.

  93. 93.

    Geminid

    November 27, 2024 at 1:51 pm

    @montanareddog: Yes. Northam was the Democratic Lieutenant Governor, while Tom Perriello had been a Democratic Congressman for the 5th District. That includes Charlottesville and Albemarle County and runs south to the North Carolia line. Perriello was elected in the 2008 Obama wave and then  lost his seat in 2010. He was a neighbor of the Smiths. A nice guy.

  94. 94.

    Geminid

    November 27, 2024 at 1:59 pm

    @Trollhattan: New York hasn’t sent Cuomo yet. It’s a crowded field, and the new Ranked-choice voting system might not help Cuomo’s prospects.

    But New Yorkers won’t be sending Cuomo anywhere else, so I’m not gonna kick if that’s who they pick. They’re the ones who’ll have to listen to the guy’s lugubrious voice. Gaah!

  95. 95.

    moonbat

    November 27, 2024 at 2:01 pm

    Just popping in to say AGAIN that Spoutible.com has many more useful features than Bluesky currently does and is not run by VC greedheads. It too has been gaining membership since the election and the mass exodus from X but the media has been assiduously avoiding mentioning it as an X alternative.

    Why? Maybe because it was founded by a black man or maybe because it has more tools than any other SM site I have been on to stop the abuse of it’s users or maybe because it was deliberately fostering an online space for democratic activism during this last election cycle.

    As much as people on here have been pining for our own left wing media outlets, you’d think we’d find a way to support a social media networking site friendly to democratic values when it comes along.

  96. 96.

    UncleEbeneezer

    November 27, 2024 at 2:01 pm

    I use block lists only as a starting point but look at the list of users and then decide individually since there are sometimes accounts that I don’t feel are block-worthy.

  97. 97.

    Captain C

    November 27, 2024 at 2:04 pm

    As some of y’all may have figured out, I’m Zaphod Beatbox (subaquahead.bksy.social) on Bluesky.  I don’t ever skeet (and probably never will); I just use it like I used to use the hellsite to find interesting follows.

  98. 98.

    espierce

    November 27, 2024 at 2:07 pm

    @Doug R:

    @espierce.bsky.social

  99. 99.

    Layer8Problem

    November 27, 2024 at 2:11 pm

    @Geminid:  Cuomo will come on interviews and put out commercials saying what a great job he did and that hard-boiled get-it-done New Yorkers can and will look past any previous unpleasantness to choose him for mayor.

    My take on him is the same as my take on Morrissey: He’s a dick.

  100. 100.

    Geminid

    November 27, 2024 at 2:19 pm

    @Layer8Problem: Then I reckon you won’t be ranking Cuomo second. That could be his problem generally, I think.

    I’m just glad you guys are the ones working out the Ranked-choice voting bugs.

  101. 101.

    narya

    November 27, 2024 at 2:19 pm

    @Baud: I also subscribed to BreadSky and BlackSky.

  102. 102.

    Trivia Man

    November 27, 2024 at 2:23 pm

    Anecdote: I dont twit, face, tok, insta, or any other ENGAGEMENT DRIVEN online activity.*

    But i like to see the links/ screenshots and occasionally click through briefly. But many of my friends are heavy users. I have been passing in the Bsky conversations from here… success! They have all made an account and even the heavy tweeters are migrating in earnest. Tgank y’all!

     

    *present company excluded. BJ gets m endorsement.

  103. 103.

    Layer8Problem

    November 27, 2024 at 2:23 pm

    @Geminid:  “I’m just glad you guys are the ones working out the Ranked-choice voting bugs.”

    That gets my most sincere sardonic “Har”.  🙂

  104. 104.

    PST

    November 27, 2024 at 2:30 pm

    I’ve been followed now on Bluesky by two jackals, and it appears that all three of us are dogs. It’s high time to retire that silly old New Yorker cartoon. Everybody knows.

  105. 105.

    Gary K

    November 27, 2024 at 2:34 pm

    I find that some of the people I follow on Bluesky post an awful lot, and my feed tends to be dominated by them. I like what they have to say but just would like to see less of it. Is there any way to see just part of what they post?

  106. 106.

    Baud

    November 27, 2024 at 2:39 pm

    @moonbat: I’m a social media follower, not a leader. Can spoutible interact with other social media sites?

  107. 107.

    Kristine

    November 27, 2024 at 2:49 pm

    @moonbat: I joined Spoutible early on and donated towards its development. I bailed after the data breach because I was sick of getting caught in them. They’ve repaired matters since but tbh the site never clicked for me. I hope it does well but I’m not ready to add anything else to the plate right now.

  108. 108.

    slybrarian

    November 27, 2024 at 2:59 pm

    @a thousand flouncing lurkers (was fidelio):
    I’ll second the recommendation for rahaeli/Denise’s block lists, and I’m somewhat amused to see other Dreamwidth users popping up given how small and old-school it is.

    As far as spoutible goes, all I know is that back when it started the founder was hurling abuse at any feeemales who dared question his brilliance even as he made easily avoidable mistakes, so I’m not inclined to go over there.

  109. 109.

    DFH

    November 27, 2024 at 3:00 pm

    @Doug R:

    I’m not a huge social media person and I guess you’d say I’m a lurker here based on my posting comments. I just really enjoy B-J and the people, and have for many years. So…

    https://bsky.app/profile/boboconnor.bsky.social

    I think it’s really neat to be in the migration away from Xitter, and the links and lists or whatever that people here have provided is cool. Onward.

  110. 110.

    Thedeadcanary

    November 27, 2024 at 3:13 pm

    @Tarragon: thanks! Will check profiles and block.

  111. 111.

    Gretchen

    November 27, 2024 at 3:23 pm

    I’ve used some of the starter packs. One was of virologists/epidemiologists that I found tremendously helpful in the early days of covid when everyone was trying to figure out what was going to happen, how to handle it, what is this disease? They were all hounded off Twitter ages ago, and here they are on Bluesky. Tellingly, Angela Rasmussen, Kristian Anderson, and others who had deep scientific takes on the origins of the virus were hounded off, and Nate Silver, secure in his ignorance, is still on Twitter spouting about how it’s obvious that covid was a lab accident because the lab was in Wuhan.

  112. 112.

    Gloria DryGarden

    November 27, 2024 at 3:46 pm

    @randy khan: I notice it too. Annoying. Contributes to loneliness

  113. 113.

    Quicksand

    November 27, 2024 at 3:59 pm

    I’m not much of a poster here or on social media, but I have definitely enjoyed browsing BlueSky more than I ever enjoyed Twitter.

    Just start following a few people you know and like (from here and other blogs, or from the Bad Place), see who they quote-skeet, follow some of those people too, and before long you’ll have a decent collection of folks in your timeline.

    Oh and don’t be afraid of using the MAGA blocklist.  Keep an eye on it (to ensure it doesn’t veer off-mission as time moves forward), but it sure is great not having those feline turds, valley maga billionaire mgtow-bros and their bootlickers, vaccine jaq-ers, and other detritus in my feed!

    Bonus: no Elon!

  114. 114.

    Noskilz

    November 27, 2024 at 3:59 pm

    I suspect Musk’s recent act of vicious idiocy (naming Federal employees he wants to get rid of) is going to speed the exodus from Twitter.

    While I’ve been seeing jokes about the strain the Bsky servers must be under these days, the site seems to be holding up much better than Twitter, which despite having millions of fewer users than it used to seems to be getting shakier and shakier. Getting an embed code these days seems to take multiple tries.

  115. 115.

    moonbat

    November 27, 2024 at 4:27 pm

    @Baud: Yes, it can. You can set it up to share your posts across media platforms like BlueSky and Mastodon.

    A comparison of Spoutible’s features to other SM sites

  116. 116.

    moonbat

    November 27, 2024 at 4:44 pm

    @moonbat: The above list is a little bit out of date, (for instance you no longer need to be invited to join BlueSky and Bluesky has video capabilities now up to one minute) but it gives you some idea of how hard Bouzy has been working to make his site uniquely user friendly.

  117. 117.

    Kayla Rudbek

    November 27, 2024 at 6:24 pm

    @slybrarian: yeah, the Spoutible founder managed to start beef with a bunch of romance writers, Courtney Milan included. Protip: don’t get on the wrong side of Courtney Milan. https://www.reddit.com/r/romancelandia/comments/117827w/spoutible_versus_romancelandia/

  118. 118.

    Doc H

    November 27, 2024 at 6:48 pm

    I’ve been on Bluesky for a while and like it a lot – got out of the tweet/skeet habit when Leon Skum took over twitter, but I’m diving back in. Currently posting travel pix…

    @drhypercube.bsky.social

    profile link

  119. 119.

    Spc

    November 28, 2024 at 1:48 am

    @Another Scott: exactly – hyper user base growth will inevitably result in “mission” changes. How significant remains to be seen. However, even before Musk, Twitter was never a profit machine – paid media on these types of sites has never been highly effective. Twitter’s stock price was based on brand and the vague future hope of Google or Meta ads type revenue that never materialized.

  120. 120.

    otmar

    November 28, 2024 at 1:51 am

    I’m @otmar.bsky.social over there.

    Just as here, mostly in lurk only mode.

  121. 121.

    steverinoCT

    November 28, 2024 at 1:16 pm

    Late to the party, as usual. I’m @steverinoct.bsky.social .  Since there isn’t a list from this post, I did the Ctrl-f thing and gathered all the nom de ciels and here they are. Is mousebumples maintaining a jackal list?

    By the by, it is traditional (in the sense of, in the past few months) to list “Jackal” as one of your profile items. Scares away the proles.

    @donaldwprice.bsky.social
    @dredecopp.bsky.social
    @archteryx.bsky.social
    @arrieve.bsky.social
    @ksmithsf.bsky.social
    @centralplanning.bsky.social
    @itsnotbread.bsky.social
    @wsr3.bsky.social
    @satanley.bsky.social
    @theotherhank.bsky.social
    @karmasdad.bsky.social
    @pst1953.bsky.social
    @slybrarian.bsky.social
    @dexwood.bsky.social
    @zyzx.bsky.social
    @fidelioscabinet.bsky.social
    @espierce.bsky.social
    @boboconnor.bsky.social
    @drhypercube.bsky.social
    @otmar.bsky.social

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