Christmas in the middle of the week seems odd to me, and it’s throwing my whole week off.
Open thread.
This was great, as was Cory Booker’s tribute to Jon Tester
Link to Cory Booker tribute to Sherrod Brown.
If someone finds that one on YouTube, let me know!
Baud
Probably the Three Wise Men, since they rode camels and so had a preference for hump day.
WaterGirl
@Baud: Ha!
Hey, can you tell me more about the Bari Weiss Substck reference? I don’t recall who Bari Weiss is, and I’m guessing that connection isn’t a good thing?
Baud
@WaterGirl:
I posted a wiki link downstairs.
BC in Illinois
Is it too early to order my “I Stand With Panama” merch?
Baud
@BC in Illinois:
You might want to wait for the other countries to be added.
rikyrah
TESTER, BROWN AND CASEY
Three good public servants. Consistently fought for the little guy .
comrade scotts agenda of rage
@WaterGirl:
Bari Weiss, wtf to begin.
Believe it or not, this FTFNYT piece from earlier in the year is a good place to start:
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/08/11/business/media/bari-weiss-free-press.html
An earlier piece:
https://www.currentaffairs.org/news/2019/04/why-we-all-hate-bari-weiss-so-much
I know over the last 5-6 years there have been some front page posts about that abhorrent representative of the “new right” but hell if I can find em.
WaterGirl
@Baud: Just saw that, thank you! I was not favorably impressed with his list of guests.
WaterGirl
@rikyrah: Really good senators who did not forget the little guy, all thrown out into the street in favor of 3 pieces of shit.
WaterGirl
@BC in Illinois: Unless you want to buy a boatload of new T-shirts, maybe go with something more generic, like:
Or you could wait a year and then do it like the backs of t-shirts where they list all the groups that contributed to making an event happen.
Scout211
WaterGirl, did you already switch it, because you posted the YouTube.
ETA: never mind, I see you were asking about the link, not the video.
WaterGirl
@Scout211: Sorry, I had the wrong label on the Tester tribute on YouTube. That didn’t help! Fixed now.
I was asking about YouTube video for the Booker tribute to Sherrod Brown, so I could replace the link to that site with a YouTube embed.
schrodingers_cat
Veteran filmmaker Shyam Benegal passed away earlier today. Last week it was Zakir Hussain. 2024 has been tough,
Title credits of Discovery Of India, directed by Benegal based on Nehru’s book by the same name. Title credits are the verses of creation from the Rigveda. First in Sanskrit, then the Hindi translation.
WaterGirl
I was just thinking of the “Sorry” website after Bush was elected a second time, where regular people could post images with signs about how sorry we were that as a country we elected Bush again.
I think that might have been our one Freebie, now, after Bush twice and Trump twice, no one should trust us for at least 20 years.
Citizen Alan
Presumably the same thoughtless asshole who decided that donald trump’s inauguration should be on martin luther king day.
chrome agnomen
@BC in Illinois: a man, a (concept of a) plan, a canal, Panama.
scav
@WaterGirl: He does rather treat other nations like he treats his dates: his for the taking, consent, sovereignty or rule of law be damned. Who had Late Stage Capitalism mandates invasion of other nation if president objects to price on their bingo card? So much for the holy shareholder if they’re not redblooded mercans (because who really believes the prices will go down once in red-blooded hands).
Jackie
Bill Clinton admitted to the hospital. At this time, it’s being reported as “not serious.”
WaterGirl
@Citizen Alan:
That’s way worse.
p.a
Panama is an obvious target for someone whose brain calcified in the 1980s.
Maybe tRump wants to reanimate FW de Klerk while he’s at it
ETA: and “unleash” the ghost of Chaing Kai-shek. RW fever dreams.
dc
Wow, Cory Booker really brought it for Jon Tester (applauding emoji).
sab
I like midweek Christmas. We were always told that the Christmas season shouldn’t start during advent, and yesterday was the last Sunday in Advent. We lit all four candles. Now I can organize for Christmas without feeling and also without being quite so rushed. And then iet continues through Twelfth Night.
My spouse agrees with most Americans that Christmas season begins the day after Thanksgiving and ends the day after New Year’s. That’s our annual bone of contention.
The cats have their own little tree in the basement, unlit and out of reach. Solly seems a bit horrified by it.
sab
@rikyrah: I talked to a thirty year old this week who wasn’t sure that Brown was a Democrat. The last time Brown ran this guy was 24 and not following politics yet.
Harry Reid always said that a senator had to conpletely reintroduce himself every election because by then there is a completely new electorate.
Another Scott
@chrome agnomen: +eleventy-bazillion.
Best wishes,
Scott.
Dan B
@p.a: I thought I read that there’s a lawsuit against Trump in Panama about not paying taxes, or something. He may be threatening them if they continue the suit.
rikyrah
@sab:
Having been a politics fanatic since the age of 11…the thought of not knowing who my UNITED STATES SENATOR IS….I just gotta roll my eyes about that.
schrodingers_cat
@rikyrah: Its one of the 100 questions for the citizenship test
Suzanne
@rikyrah: A few years back, when Spawn the Elder was in 8th grade, his class was preparing for the AZ state citizenship test. It’s a requirement in AZ to pass it before graduation. ANYWAY, his social studies teacher was teaching them all that John Boehner was the SotH. But Paul Ryan had become the SotH a few weeks prior. Spawn corrected his teacher (yeah, my kid is That Kid) and she didn’t believe him. Legit, the social studies teacher didn’t know.
Then a few days later, the teacher apparently told the kids that Spawn was correct — Paul Ryan was the SotH — but that the test wouldn’t be updated in time, so they should select John Boehner as the answer. Spawn refused. He got a 99% on the test. LOL.
RaflW
Since this is an open thread … if anyone wants an unusual hour of entertainment, Milwaukee’s own Violent Femmes played a 40th Anniv concert with the Milwaukee Symphony, and it’s available streaming without a sign-in as far as I can tell. It’s good!
RaflW
@BC in Illinois: I guess BF and I should book our Panama Canal cruise soon! The way ETTD works, I’m a bit worried the Panamanians will have to blockade it or even blow it up.
(So far Greenland seems OK, other than accelerating climate/ice loss.)
The Audacity of Krope
@schrodingers_cat: I wouldn’t be shocked if 15 percent or more of adult Americans couldn’t even tell you what a US Senator is.
Nukular Biskits
@Baud:
With reference to the earlier thread which you joked (?) about having kids then denied it, I think this is a smoking gun:
Only a dad would make a joke that bad.
rikyrah
@Suzanne:
CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP
Suzanne
@rikyrah: Spawn said that the social studies teacher was a Republican, BTW.
Suzanne
That’s a conservative estimate. I would put it at 25% at least.
Nukular Biskits
@Suzanne @rikyrah @The Audacity of Krope
Not knowing who your US Senators are is bad. Just imagine asking a lot of these folks who their US Rep, or, even more telling, their state rep or senator.
I guar-an-damn-tee you probably no more than 40% can tell you the latter two.
Ruckus
@schrodingers_cat:
There are a lot of us old farts, spread all around. From sea to shinning sea. And on the other sides of the shinning seas, and to the north and south poles.
I’m in the middle of my 7th decade and still going. (I left off the strong – reality can really wake one up) I’m in good shape, do more at my age than many I’ve known much younger than me. My doctor had me walk down the hallway about 6 months ago and told me to slow the hell down. So I have. But still old is old. It’s just not always OLD. But the road is the road. Like someone said long ago, keep moving and breathing as long as you can, and it’s very true.
Ruckus
@WaterGirl:
It wasn’t my idea to reelect shitforbrains.
And I didn’t give him any help whatsoever.
Just like the last time he ran. I may be old but I’m not stupid……
No really, I’M NOT.
Urza
@Suzanne: Somehow most Social Studies and Civics teachers were Republican. I don’t imagine thats changed much in 30 years if the courses even still exist. And every last one of them hates when a student expresses Democratic leanings.
frosty
@Nukular Biskits: I can’t tell you who my state rep or state senator is. And I’m a political junkie!
Nukular Biskits
@frosty:
That’s kinda my point.
Not to trivialize what happens (or doesn’t) in Congress or to claim it has little to no impact on our daily lives, but as I have mentioned many a time here arguably where the majority of our focus should be is on our state legs & and city councils/county boards of supervisors.
THOSE are likely to have more immediate impacts … yet people pay them little heed.
Ohio Mom
@Urza: That was true in my day, and I grew up in Godless New York City.
The exception was my junior high social studies teacher, Mr. Sol Turk. He showed us how the Electoral College could select a president who did not win the popular vote and also taught us that paying taxes was a civic responsibility. The example he used was why people without children still needed to help pay for schools.
wvng
@rikyrah: I intend to try to forget that the new Senator from WV is Jim Justice. I will try to forget that every single day.
UncleEbeneezer
Just got back from a one-night vacation to Costa Mesa to see the American Ballet version of the Nutcracker. It was superb!! Great choreography, dancing, sets and the costumes were amazing! Probably the best version of the Nutcracker, of the many, many we have watched over the years.
After the show we were starving and a lot of places had extreme waits so we went to Mastros steakhouse. Some of it was very good (shrimp cocktail, broccollini, 12 oz filet steak and 7 oz lobster tail were all great) but damn, for $400 some of it (salmon, twice-baked potato, bread, cocktails) should’ve been much better. On the whole it was not worth the $.
This morning (my actual B-day) we went to Pho 54 in Westminster and had an incredible breakfast of pho ga, cha gio (egg rolls) and Vietnamese coffee, for $40. It was a better meal all-around, for 1/10th the price!! After that we got Vietnamese Egg Coffees at Airoma Coffee and they were (chef’s kiss). So far, having a great birthday :)
Miss Bianca
@sab: I am with you on the 12 Days of Christmas front. It’s a lonely battlefield in the American War on Christmas, I confess it…
M. Bouffant
If there is a winter day off, it should be the day of the solstice, not some imaginary silliness that violates the First Amendment.
Scout211
@UncleEbeneezer:
Happy Birthday!
Citizen Alan
@Nukular Biskits: hell, when I started my move to fresno I took which congressional district, I would be in into consideration as a factor in which apartment durant. I am presently in tom, the clintocks district. (Pfft!) there is a good chance. I will be moving to vincent fongs district next spring. Not sure if that’s better or worse.
Citizen Alan
@Urza: my theory is that it’s because a disproportionate number of social studies and civics, teachers are actually athletic coaches who have to teach at least one class to justify their existence.
Nukular Biskits
@Citizen Alan:
With the exception of majority minority districts (Delta, etc), most of the representation in MS’s state leg is typical white conservative Bubba … with a smattering of Bubbaettes.
kalakal
@Nukular Biskits: Given that my US Rep is Anna Paulina Luna I’ve become a member of the ‘Ignorance is Bliss’ school of thought
sab
@Citizen Alan: My junior high social studies teacher was a complete creep who took joy in embarrassing eighth grade girls whose bra strap was showing. We all thougjt he was a creep and a pervert. Not a coach.
My senior year social studies teacher ( Ohio we called it Problems of Democracy, or POD) was one of the handful of best teachers I had in twelve years of public school.
He was also a great baseball coach. 50 years later my high school baseball field is named after him. I remember him back in the day bitching about a flock of ducks landing in the outfield on a particularly bad weather day.
My biology teacher, on the other hand, was our football coach. Appalling bad biology teacher. But two of my classmates had successful NFL careers. The rest of us didn’t learn much. My parents were furious. Dad was a physician and Mom was a chemistry major, and I went on to history and law, and only took the mandatory science in college, to their mutual consternation. I regret it a now.
WTFGhost
@WaterGirl: I wouldn’t trust the US ever again, period. They could always nominate and elect some goddamned moron who really didn’t understand anything like “we both benefit.”
I mean, geez. How could you trust him? He is literally on the wrong side of everything, but because Republicans keep fluffing him (and I mean that in the crudest possible sense), it’s all “they said, we said, who knows what’s true?”
@sab: Pick a local college and pick up a few courses if you want. You might be surprised at how much fun you have exercising your mental muscles after a long absence. (Um – that’s not a suggestion you weren’t exercising your mental muscles – just, school is different. Have you ever imagined showing up at chess club in your underwear? No, but school? Always.
(Okay, you didn’t know where the freaks and losers of the chess club met, so, you didn’t imagine showing up in your underwear, so, that wasn’t an entirely *unsafe* prediction….)
WTFGhost
@Ruckus: CS Lewis (a famous Christian apologist/philosopher) opined that we had universal responsibility. Like, you didn’t want a shitbird for US President, so you tried to avoid it. But, you had other ways to influence the vote than what you did..
Under that view, saying “I’m sorry – regret, not remorse – that we elected a moron, and I will do my best to help people not to do that again,” is the right thing to do.
Maybe you couldn’t have done even a tiny bit more than you did. But… what if you could have done ai little bit more?
That’s the idea of universal responsibility. It’s not meant to induce guilt, per se, but, if you wake up and you’re in Nazi country, you can’t pretend you did *all* you could, or you’d probably have needed to *flee* the country. So, hopefully, before you wake up in Nazi country, make sure people are clear, you prefer a *non*-Nazi country.