Trump has handily diverted the conversation from President Elon to whatever he’s going to invade today, which I guess includes Panama (to get back the canal), Greenland and Canada. He’s also threatening to name Mexican Cartels as terrorist organizations so he’ll have an excuse to attack them across the border.
Here’s Claudia Sheinbaum’s response:
“We will collaborate with and coordinate with the United States,” Sheinbaum said in response, “but we will never subordinate ourselves.”
Here she is yesterday on the topic of the Panama Canal:
“The Panama Canal belongs to the Panamanians,” said Sheinbaum.[…]
Sheinbaum said Mexico would never accept foreign interference and was confident that an agreement on migration, trade and tariffs would be reached.
The Danish government has announced a huge boost in defence spending for Greenland, hours after US President-elect Donald Trump repeated his desire to purchase the Arctic territory.
Danish Defence Minister Troels Lund Poulsen said the package was a “double digit billion amount” in krone, or at least $1.5bn (£1.2bn).
He described the timing of the announcement as an “irony of fate”. […]
The whole Trump 2 presidency is a god damned “irony of fate” — that guy got it right.
So, that’s how you do it, Mexico and Denmark. As blood lusty as some Republicans are, Trump is too afraid of bad news to deploy the military to do shit. Adam Kinzinger has Trump’s number on that topic when he skeeted this:
The fact that Kinzinger calls him a “sissy” puts it in the Republican frame of military action being the hallmark of manly men, which is stupid — just goes to show that D’s agree with him on basically one thing. Still, he’s right that any threats by Trump that could only be accomplished by military force are absolutely meaningless.
Media outlets like CNN are so hollowed out and click-thirsty that they’ll excitedly report on Trump’s ramblings, despite knowing that he barks all day but he doesn’t bite. But the rest of us know that Trump won’t do shit unless President Elon tells him to, and even then he still won’t if military action is involved.
Elizabelle
Until he does it, just ignore The Fucker. You’re talking about Him!
The media outlets are flashing us though, aren’t they? Those screenshots are going to be discussed in history and journalism classes for years.
Make the pie higher!
MattF
I strongly suspect that aggressive rhetoric towards Panama (!) and Greenland (!!) foreshadows actual simultaneous retreats on several other fronts. We shall see.
Baud
It’s why they wanted him back.
In my darker moments, I also feel like half of blue sky is also subconsciously happy he’s back, for the same reason.
@mistermix.bsky.social
@Elizabelle: Here’s my response to this kind of stuff: Ignore, no. Contextualize and don’t amplify nonsense, yes.
scav
No one likes us, I don’t know why . . . .
Aziz, light!
Ironically, liberal top-10,000 blogs (among many others) will also excitedly report on Trump’s ramblings.
blindyone
It’s the whole: Look! A squirrel! thing. Meanwhile, horribly corrupt and incompetent picks for top govt jobs and important diplomatic posts are moved into position. It worked before in his prior “administration”. With the help of our lazy and shallow major media it seems to be working again.
TBone
Anything that begins with “Trump teases” is a hard no.
A woman from anywhere (formerly Mohagan)
I read that Trump originally was interested in Greenland to build a golf course there. All the pictures I have seen of Greenland are pure ice and snow; as my husband pointed out, it would be hard to find a stray white golf ball. Greenland does have oil and rare mineral deposits, but the golf course story somehow rings true. What a moron.
blindyone
@@mistermix.bsky.social: Agree.
Another Scott
OTOH, remember the Shayrat missile strike:
Of course, it’s easy to see, the attack was a sham.
The missiles cost around $1M each.
So, it’s not impossible that Donnie would actually pull some military strike like that again. But it would be done expensively, stupidly, and counter-productively.
Thanks.
Best wishes,
Scott.
Betty Cracker
I hope to dog you’re right about Trump being too much of a PAB to use the military. I’m not so confident. It’s the ultimate dick swing.
Now I’m off to have nog, make merry and not think about that motherfucker anymore. Happy holidays to you all!
Another Scott
@A woman from anywhere (formerly Mohagan): There seem to be a couple of golf courses on Greenland.
https://en.nuukgolf.com/ is one.
Looks kinda rocky!
HTH!
Best wishes,
Scott.
@mistermix.bsky.social
@A woman from anywhere (formerly Mohagan):
One of Campos’ correspondents at LGM thinks its because Greenland looks yuge on a Mercator projection.
Stupidity has a million possible explanations, I guess.
trollhattan
@Another Scott:
Frankly, dogsled carts would elevate golf to the point I might try it.
trollhattan
@Betty Cracker:
Same to you and all the Crackers!
We are fortunate Vance (remember him? I hardly can) is no Dick Cheney. His invasion fantasy involves Peter Thiel assaulting the Oval Office.
Harrison Wesley
I’m sure drilling and mining would have no environmental impact at all. Of course not.
trollhattan
@@mistermix.bsky.social:
You can’t count that out. Trump is stupid and incurious.
@mistermix.bsky.social
@Aziz, light!:
I addressed this above but I’ll revise and extend my remarks: Since this is a blog about politics, and Trump is President-elect, I will continue to write about some of the stupidity that he broadcasts. I’ll pick and choose which stupidity, generally choosing ones where I think I can add context and/or rebuttal to the prevailing wisdom. I won’t be excitedly posting about his every utterance.
But, he’s the President-elect, this is a politics blog, and writing about the President-elect and, next year, President is part of the gig.
frosty
Too bad. How about a compromise? No, and I mean absolutely no, pictures of him.
Steve LaBonne
Just a coincidence I’m sure that he grabbed the headlines with this crap right when there was a lot of coverage of President Elmo and of Trump getting stiffed on the debt ceiling. (Which doesn’t mean the idiotic saber rattling isn’t dangerous and damaging.)
schrodingers_cat
@Baud: I am going to ignore all his blatherings. My outrage meter is broken.
Melancholy Jaques
@Baud:
I’m afraid you are right about that. He gives them an identity. And something to talk about every day.
Scuffletuffle
It would be a major embarrassment to lose to a cartel’s military force…I wonder if any one in his circle worries about that.
@mistermix.bsky.social
@Scuffletuffle:
Agree, and it’s not even losing, it’s losing men and equipment to the cartels, which they are very much capable of doing. They have armored vehicles and some kinds of heavy weaponry. They’ve repelled the Mexican Army in some battles. The Mexican Army is a disciplined serious force, even if ill-equipped by US standards.
schrodingers_cat
@Melancholy Jaques: It does indeed. I for one am not going to give them or social media influencers rage clicks. They can get them elsewhere.
Steve LaBonne
@Scuffletuffle: And after we “won” just imagine what the occupation would be like.
BellaPea
I was doing one of my favorite holiday traditions last night, watching The Kennedy Center Honors. It was awesome–Bonnie Raitt, Frances Ford Coppola, Apollo Theatre (first time an institution has received one of the honors) and the Grateful Dead. However, when Kamala and Doug walked into their box, and received a thunderous standing ovation, followed by Dr. Jill and President Biden to another loud ovation, I literally burst into tears. So much is going to be gone, and thinking about that the Orange Ass is actually going to be president again, breaks my heart once more. I only hope he and Melanoma don’t attend next year–they didn’t those four years when he “ruled.” I also saw Meek Merrick in the audience and John Roberts was there, smiling like the smug, arrogant bastard he is–more rage.
eemom
@frosty:
OR Prince Apartheid Fuckscum, if you please.
I never thought I could hate a face worse than trump’s, but the sight of that filthy smirking piece of shit drives my blood pressure off the charts, meds or no meds.
bbleh
I think he’s MOSTLY too scared to use the military, in large part because he thinks any casualties might make HIM look bad on TV.
BUT … I don’t think he’d be scared to use military force when it’s so overwhelming that the risk of casualties is basically zero, eg domestically (!) or outside in the US in some sort of unopposed or entirely symbolic (or even basically fake) action, especially one that could be televised in near or real time. That is, if he can use it to bully someone who won’t punch back. Bullies are typically cowards, but he is every inch a bully.
And btw, merry Christmas from Sydney, where it already IS Christmas!
Kristine
“We must cut Social Security and Medicare! The money is needed to yadda yadda military spending defense manifest destiny!”
Almost Retired
If we’re going to wrestle Greenland away from the Vikings, we should at least make it a state and give it a couple Senators. I would expect a population comprised of Scandinavians and Inuits to do the right thing come election-time.
Poe Larity.
Wait til he finds out Iceland doesn’t even have an army.
Another Scott
Speaking of big ideas like Manifest Destiny, … Existential Commics #575 has some thoughts on Rousseau, “freedom”, voting, and such.
;-)
Best wishes,
Scott.
comrade scotts agenda of rage
@Almost Retired:
Nah, we’d make it Guam, only colder.
Jackie
Has this been discussed and laughed about?
Republicans fear Speaker battle means they can’t certify the election. Lol
The Newsweek link is worth clicking and chortling about this Day Before Christmas!
Another Scott
Santa is on the move…
Best wishes,
Scott.
Kay
Most Greenlanders, although citizens of Denmark and the EU and self-governed locally, are Inuit.
That’s why he thinks he can just take their country.
Trivia Man
I saw a danish government response – offering to buy the USA. Except the government because “its clear everything is now for sale there.”
Best of all was their goal. Implement universal health care and effective education so that “instead of a large landmass they can become a great country,”. ZING!
Baud
@Trivia Man:
Nice.
Baud
Dupe.
Derelict
Recall that Trump wants the U.S. to leave NATO.
Recall that Denmark and Canada will remain in NATO.
Trump launching military action against either one of them would trigger NATO’s mutual aid and protection. So, basically, World War III.
But with us, the United States, as the bad guys.
Trivia Man
@Jackie:
I saw that, i am very curious to hear the procedural analysis from experts. I assume president pro tem in the new senate will be in charge? President Grassley played the long game!
@mistermix.bsky.social
@Jackie: More on that from RollCall:
article
Basically there are ways around it, unfortunately.
bbleh
@Jackie: oh they’ll figure something out — “each house of Congress makes its own rules” — like electing a “Speaker Pro Tem” or something, just to get themselves constituted and swear fealty to the Dear Leader.
I DO like that the MSM are running an awful lot of “Republicans In Disarray” stories though. Be great if this were The Narrative for a while, and there’s certainly no lack of material for it.
Another Scott
Meanwhile, … A thread from Ben Wikler:
We’ll have to get back to the grindstone soon. Rest up and be well, everyone!
(via BlueVirginia.US)
Best wishes,
Scott.
trollhattan
@bbleh:
Trump’s perhaps not inclined to invade a country “in the usual way” but he’s drawn to the damn toys.
Will remind all that after the generals informed Donny he couldn’t “win Afghanistan by dropping a nuke on the Taliban,” they answered “what’s the biggest bomb we have, then?” with the MOAB. We then dropped one on some hunk of rock and desert, thus winning Afghanistan or at least terrorizing a slice of the place. That was after less than three months in office.
Trivia Man
@Another Scott: How nice of Wisconsin’s party chair to help Virginia.
I hope he explicitly thanks all the Virginians who helped with our Supreme Court. We are all in it together, across every state.
Jackie
@@mistermix.bsky.social:
@bbleh:
Nothing better than TCFG staying up with insomnia worrying about J6 – for a different reason! If he has to endorse Johnson for Speaker – after he didn’t raise/remove the debt ceiling – which TCFG wanted above all else – it will be entertaining watching TCFG justify how wonderful Johnson is.
Quaker in a Basement
I dunno, man. When the president-elect says crazy shit, that’s news. I think ignoring him would do more to normalize his behavior than reporting it does.
trollhattan
@Quaker in a Basement:
It was probably 2023 before I stopped reflexively twitching on hearing any new story that began “Today, the president…”
And now it’s back, even though he’s not even inaugurated.
Miss Bianca
@eemom: I’m with you on that one.
Barbara
If Donald Trump wants to spend the next six months trying to figure out how to annex Canada, Mexico, Greenland and Panama, then let him try. As my husband said to me this morning, it’s kind of bizarre that he would annex Mexico — because then Mexicans would no longer be immigrants in the U.S. Yeah, whatever, the point is, brain dead musing is a lot less harmless than other things.
Baud
The new Cold War
@Quaker in a Basement:
(Note: Info has not been verified by me.)
Miss Bianca
@Baud: A really *cold* cold war, if we’re talking about Greenland.
KatKapCC
@eemom: In place of Trump pics, they could use that giant inflatable Trump Chicken that showed up during his first term. And for Elon, an AI rendering of a muskrat wearing a leather jacket and a baseball cap that says Best Boy.
comrade scotts agenda of rage
What Greenland’s residents had to say back in 2019 when the Orange Fart Cloud made noises about wanting the US to purchase it:
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-49436197
trollhattan
@Baud: BBC has it, and does not bury the lede.
Behold the power of this fully operational
battle stationdog sled team squadron!Every frickin’ country on the planet is raring to prank the orange one.
Raflw
Trump threatening Denmark and Greenland isn’t a tease. Manifest Destiny was theft, conflict, murder-by-disease and so much more. Trump is doing deranged musings of war. Fuck CNN.
Merry Christmas, anyway.
Mike in Pasadena
@A woman from anywhere (formerly Mohagan): Shorter shipping and trade routes over the pole are becoming available in summers. That’s why President Musk put this in his vice’s ear. I’m sure someone on here commented on this last night.
Ruckus
@A woman from anywhere (formerly Mohagan):
What a moron.
Since his day one, that has been him.
In every possible way, shape, form that is idiotic.
trollhattan
Mary Trump dishes on Christmas with the Trumps.
https://youtu.be/0u_K67M9WHw?si=MW-XqHk-IktcamTy
Am glad to learn we have a sane, smart, well-adjusted Trump. One, at least.
Ruckus
@trollhattan:
Every frickin’ country on the planet is raring to prank the orange one.
I’m not sure prank is the correct word. And is, at the very least, not nearly far enough. Of course it depends on what you mean by prank…
Ruckus
@trollhattan:
She is and always has been the real deal.
I’d bet she knows him better than anyone else, even as he’s been showing all the rest of us who he really is.
karen gail
So day one, leave WHO. Is there a known timetable for leaving UN and NATO?
He has already threatened Canada and Mexico so guess those countries can no longer be counted as allies; bet if he thought he could get away with it he would take over throne from King Charles.
Dorothy A. Winsor
@Jackie: Someone said that if they don’t certify, Chuck Grassley is temporarily president
WTFGhost
So: quick history lesson, how many times has the US invaded Panama over the canal, in the past 50 years?
Once, to extradite its then-President for US federal drug crimes.
I’m all for pointing out that Trump is a sissy, but, maybe-not for not invading Panama over the canal. Too many people remembered how many people praised Reagan for showing national sovereignty was no shield to the US in the OLD days, when even a Republican PRESIDENT denounced TORTURE!
eclare
@trollhattan:
Hahaha…may they be as good as Joe’s dogs when it comes to judging character.
Another Scott
@trollhattan: “I’ll Introduce you to Bob!!”
😱
[ rofl! ]
Thanks.
Best wishes,
Scott.
oldgold
The problem with this is not that the Orange Menace might follow through with these moronic declarations. He will not. Rather, it is that he is undermining our authority to insist on the principle of territorial sovereignty for Taiwan, Ukraine or any other country some despot would like to annex.
eclare
@karen gail:
You know TCFG covets that coronation crown and sceptre.
Professor Bigfoot
@Baud: I don’t think you’re wrong about Bluesky… the need to shit on Democrats there seems excessive.
WTFGhost
@trollhattan: A null hypothesis, so to speak. What with social media, teams of psych-folks will write reams of doctorates some day.
@trollhattan: I’m torn. It could be BBC’s “report everything, hopefully including the facts.” It could also be a delightful prank, if it puts their defense spending within the NATO recommendation, at which point you should point out how the whole world is laughing at Trump – no, not the US, *TRUMP*. They’re in *tears* for *us*.
Another Scott
@eclare: He probably wants to “borrow” the Gold State Coach for his inauguration and will “forget” to return it.
[ grocho-roll-eyes.gif ]
Best wishes,
Scott.
KatKapCC
@eclare: Oh pleeeeease someone put a cheap crown on him. But first, coat the bottom rim with a bit of stickum of some kind so when he takes it off, ideally on camera, it yanks that urine-colored rat’s nest off his head, too.
scav
@KatKapCC: With his love of fast food, there’s always the crown from Burger King available.
Trivia Man
@Quaker in a Basement: sane washing is the issue. Reporting it as straight news does us all a disservice. Tell us why its batshit insane THE FIRST TIME HE SAYS IT.
Quoting hm saying we should own the canal because we built it without also pointing out we LEASED it from the until the lease ended under carter. That panama has done a lot in additions and improvements . That trumps property there is CURRENTLY UNDER INVESTIGATION FOR TAX FRAUD.
Instead we get his quote and a smirk from the newscaster like its just a silly joke.
Trivia Man
@KatKapCC: I like the trump baby balloon best.
Baud
@Professor Bigfoot: I actually sense it more when folks are talking about Trump. A similar feeling when I sense media glee at the latest Trump escapade. A reveling in joyous outrage that is righteous and uncomplicated.
I don’t know what’s in anyone else’s heart. I recognize that most of my perceptions are probably my fault and likely off base – a function of the medium more than the individuals involved. But I’m not always comfortable with what excites and interests people, even though a lot of that is necessary given our current reality.
Bill Arnold
@Mike in Pasadena:
Also, global heating will eventually melt the Greenland ice cap, and it will be fully green again.
In the fullness of time.
Need to plan for the warmer planet brought to us by green house gas emissions!
Dan B
@Bill Arnold: I believe that much of the center of Greenland is below sea level so it will be a sea. And the AMOC shutdown will make northern Europe very icy.
eclare
@KatKapCC:
Great idea!
Jeffro
I have ZERO problem with Adam Kinzinger – or anyone else – calling trumpov a “sissy”. He is, full stop.
Jeffro
@@mistermix.bsky.social: “I expanded the United States by a gazillion acres! Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair!”
– trumpov, possibly, but who cares
prostratedragon
@Trivia Man:
Harry Tuttle
Jeffro
Isn’t the Panama thing just him trying to browbeat the Panamanian government since the Trump Org is being sued for tax fraud?
tobie
I point this bellicose rhetoric out in a specific context: Trump is a warmonger, not Joe Biden nor Kamala Harris for that matter. Occasionally Trump and RFK Jr and Gabbard and Rogan make antiwar sounds but that’s mostly because they’re latter day Neville Chamberlains willing to sell the country out to a strongman like Putin or a rich man like Elmo.
eclare
@Jeffro:
That’s what I think. I saw some news service saying it’s to prevent greater Chinese influence which is bullshit. Ascribing any meaning other than revenge or money to anything TCFG does is journalistic deceit.
Barbara
@Baud: +100
Another Scott
@Bill Arnold: Made me look.
NASA map of measured sea level rise from 1992 to 2019. As much as 15+ cm – measured – in 27 years. Presumably the rate will increase. :-(
It looks like SE Asia, especially the island nations, are going to get the worst of it, but also the US and Mexican Gulf coast, some parts of the US East coast, the Baltics, SE Australia, eastern Madagascar, etc., are likely to be in trouble.
Not good.
And thinking (by some, apparently like VVP) that some Northwest Passage is going to make it worthwhile is extremely short sighted.
Thanks.
Best wishes,
Scott.
MagdaInBlack
@Another Scott: All the ice has melted, coastal cities are underwater, the earth is burning up, but hey! we have new shipping routes ! Good plan.
lollipopguild
trump is charging $100,00.00 a person to go to a church service with him. no clue about the signals that this sends.
prostratedragon
@Baud:
Think I know just what you mean there. Having these folks available to kick around so much wouldn’t be good for social health even if they weren’t in power. There are more constructive things to do.
dexwood
Oh, god, the Barking Yam will want to invade New Mexico, too.
pat
@lollipopguild:
How much? Seems there is a 0 or a comma missing. And how on earth can he demand money from someone just to go to a church service??
Oh, wait, maybe that’s the only reason he would go..
Starfish (she/her)
@lollipopguild: Surely he is donating the money to the church, right? /
Here is the news story.
pat
This is just bizarre. Give me $100,000 and you can accompany me to church? Does the church have anything to say about this?
You know, I can see why the MSM kind of wanted this creep to be in the white house for the next few years. SO EASY to write the stories of the crazy shit he is doing, and boy I bet the books are already being written. Just waiting to come up with the title…
I feel sick. Like I did the first time he won.
And please, no more pictures of that clown.
Juju
@trollhattan:
Every frickin’ country on the planet is raring to prank the orange one.
I’m fine with that. Prank on, other countries. The Orange Stain deserves it more than anyone else.
Ruckus
@trollhattan:
Also traveling into senility, as in warp speed into.
Another Scott
Speaking of upcoming battles, ICYMI, Robert Kuttner at Prospect.org (from December 6) thinks that the DNC race is basically a choice between 2 guys and is basically over:
Beware that much of the rest of the piece is a screed. Yes, “corrupt” makes an appearance, I guess I should be happy that it only appears once. :-/
Is he right? Dunno. I guess we’ll find out.
Best wishes,
Scott.
Baud
@Another Scott:
I could have told you it was a two person race two weeks ago. The other names clearly weren’t what we needed right now.
scav
@lollipopguild: Not only bringing the lobbyists, international agents and money changers into the very temple itself to make their pitchs to him but then charging them for access! Truly the leader Christians have awaited.
Baud
@scav:
Good. Christians have suffered under Jesus’s yoke for too long.
Citizen Alan
@Baud: Personally, I think a lot of it is excitement because people know think “Finally! This is something so stupid and insane that it will wake the cultists up and make them see what we all see!” And it never does, because they are, after all, a fucking cult. But the hope is still there.
Geminid
@schrodingers_cat: I cited this aphorism about outrage a couple mornings ago and will repost it again:
prostratedragon
Sometimes Pitchbot is reduced to collecting samples in the wild.
zhena gogolia
@Citizen Alan: If giving a blowjob to a microphone the week before the election didn’t do it, it isn’t happening.
zhena gogolia
@prostratedragon: OMG
Suzanne
@Citizen Alan:
Agree. It’s our version of One Weird Trick.
Baud
@Citizen Alan:
It’s like Christians who continue to believe the Rapture is coming soon.
Geminid
I see I fatfingered a reply to Schrodinger’s Cat and it’s in moderation. She said her outrage meter was broken and I quoted something I saw recently:
Citizen Alan
@zhena gogolia: hell, saying the Mexicans are all rapists should have done it five minutes after he came down the escalator. But we all underestimated the moral leprosy of the right wing.
RevRick
@Baud: Word
Citizen Alan
@Baud: i still want to write a satire based on the left behind series in which the antichrist is the most obviously evil, repulsive, and stupid human being in the world, but evangelicals overwhelmingly support him because he hates the same people they do.
KatKapCC
@prostratedragon: One of the Pitchbot’s “I can’t do better than this” moments.
Baud
@RevRick:
lol. Merry Christmas, Rev.
comrade scotts agenda of rage
@Citizen Alan:
No matter how low we set the bar, they’ll find a way to slither under it.
eclare
@Citizen Alan:
And then can they all be raptured so that those of us left have a nice, fun life while we do good things for the planet and each other?
KatKapCC
@comrade scotts agenda of rage:
A+
Aziz, light!
It’s low because there are two miles of ice on top of it. When this burden is removed, the land will rise, a phenomenon known as isostatic rebound. A number of Alaskan coastal stretches are rising faster than sea level rise because of glacial retreat.
Melting the Greenland ice cap completely will raise global sea levels by 23 feet, so Greenland’s newly green interior will be the least of our concerns.
There are some strategic reasons to invest in Greenland because Russia is positioned to exploit and perhaps dominate the new transpolar shipping routes.
WaterGirl
@Geminid: I fixed your nym and released that comment.
Socolofi
Y’know, I think there’s generally two ways to react to stupidity like this:
1. Old man yells at clouds.
2. What’s he doing that he needs to distract reporters from?
I’d love to ignore these things but I can’t, even here… Til we’ve tried to buy Greenland twice before (pre-Trump), and Denmark ain’t budging.
Look, we’ve seen his BS before. He’s gonna give tax cuts to the rich. He’s gonna try and grift as much as possible for himself and his family. He’s gonna build a useless wall, and put brown people on the other side of it. Otherwise, he ain’t gonna do shit.
Merry F’ing Christmas, y’all.
lowtechcyclist
@Another Scott:
Bet they’ve got the best
waterice hazards of any golf course in the world.Stacy
@Another Scott: Yep. Early voting for both of them this Saturday and have been writing postcards for them. I thought the firehouse primary for both had good turnout anecdotally. Fingers crossed.
Geminid
@WaterGirl: Thank you, WaterGirl. You’re like one of Santa’s elves, but even better
Ed. I’ll try to keep a better eye on my nym and gmail address and save you unnecessary work.
in the hills
“twas rank and fame that tempted thee,
twas empire charmed your heart”
joyce
ulysses
Gloria DryGarden
@Trivia Man: thank you Denmark
Another Scott
@Baud: But you didn’t!!
I’m always the last to know…!
:-/
Best wishes,
Scott.
Gloria DryGarden
@Baud: going to nominate this one.