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Old School
RIP
zhena gogolia
So sad he had to see this.
SpaceUnit
Lord, you got a keeper there.
Eunicecycle
RIP to a great man.
Baud
@zhena gogolia:
Yes.
Betty Cracker
President Carter was probably the best human being to hold the office during my lifetime. He continued to learn and grow and try to make a difference all his long life, an example to us all.
TBone
No words yet only music
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VOaQAMC17GQ
TBone
@Betty Cracker: you said it all right there thank you
A Man for All Seasonings (formerly Geeno)
He may not have been a “Great President” – whatever that would have meant for that time – but he has always been a great human being. I’m genuinely saddened by his loss.
hitchhiker
First presidential vote I ever cast was for him. Literally a lifetime ago. :(
I’m so glad Biden will do right by him now.
Soprano2
@Betty Cracker: This, all of it. I’m glad he died before the Orange Error takes office again. What an insult to a great man that would have been. The Carters were the kind of people Christians used to say everyone should be, but they couldn’t stand him and instead supported a divorced actor for president.
dmsilev
Sigh. We all knew it was coming, but there’s still a pang at hearing the news.
At least fuckface won’t be a sitting President at the funeral.
SiubhanDuinne
He was a great man.
He lived a century.
He got to vote for Kamala.
It’s all good, so why am I sobbing?
Soprano2
@hitchhiker: Mine too.
Princess
In time for a state funeral under Biden, not Trump.
Soprano2
@dmsilev: Oh, fuckface won’t be at the funeral at all.
dc
I truly wish he could have seen Harris elected. Rest in peace, president Carter, you were a good man and you lived your ideals.
John S.
@Betty Cracker:
100%
Be at peace with your beloved Rosalynn, Mr. Carter. You were a rare force for good in this world.
gene108
@Soprano2:
I’m also glad he passed before Trump takes office. He will have a proper remembrance.
He lived a very good and remarkable life.
Quinerly
@Betty Cracker:
I wasn’t old enough to vote for him in 1976 but voted for him in 1980. My parents worked pretty hard on his NC campaign.
I still have my golden peanut necklace that my dad bought for me. Not real gold, of course. A true to size peanut in the shell on a chain.
I did some extensive estate planning a few years ago. I have no living blood relatives. When I check out, what’s left goes to The Carter Center.
NotoriousJRT
His passing now should result in appropriate and deserved public honor for him and his lifetime of service to this nation. After 1/20, it would have been a travesty, I think. Rest in peace with your beloved Rosalynn, sir.
dmsilev
@Soprano2: And pass up an opportunity to be on lots of cameras? Invited or not, I think he’ll be there.
NotoriousJRT
@Princess: You beat me to it.
TaMara
Sigh. Even when we knew it was coming…
His second term election run was my first ever vote. I have never regretted that vote for a second.
I believe in an afterlife, so I wish for him the welcome he deserves, and Rosalynn waiting for him.
Ruckus
A long and great life
A good man
Adios
Baud
So many people here and on Blue sky sxpeessing the same thought about the timing of the funeral.
As much as I disliked past Republican presidents, the idea that they would ruin a funeral would have never crossed my mind.
Elizabelle
Godspeed. I have been thinking about JEC for weeks, and hoping that he might go out before The Felon is in any way involved. He had already asked Joe Biden to deliver his eulogy.
So. We get to celebrate two spectacular human beings who were denied a second term, while something monstrous waits to be inaugurated very soon. The second fucking time.
I am glad that Jimmy Carter got to cast his final presidential vote for Kamala Harris.
Jeffro
@Betty Cracker: well said, and thanks.
Straight to Heaven for JC. Keep an eye on us sir, we’ll need it.
JPL
@Princess: That is exactly what I told my son.
Pretty sure Siubhan aka Suburu has been to Plains. I visited his library though.
RandomMonster
Such a great and kind person deserved much better treatment in this country. In a better age both friends and political rivals would hold him up as a model of decency.
narya
First time I voted. RIP to a great human; what Betty said above.
Mr. Bemused Senior
@Soprano2: @hitchhiker:
Same here. Farewell to a great human being.
Jeffro
110%
George Will has a piece up in the Post about how Carter was a president that made Reagan necessary. So…Will goes on the ‘Bud Light graveside recycling tour’ list, with a bullet.
Betty Cracker
@Quinerly: That’s a wonderful legacy. As you know, the CC does such essential work to promote democracy, among other things. Great choice!
Scout211
Goodbye, Mr. Carter. You made us proud and lived a life full of love, service and kindness. You were the best kind of person.
Hildebrand
He was good, he did good, and he lived his faith in the way it should be lived – generous, open hearted, open minded, welcoming, inclusive, justice oriented, gracious, merciful.
Like others, I’m deeply grateful that the funeral will not take place during the second kleptocracy.
Splitting Image
RIP to a great man.
One of the truly admirable things about Carter is that he negotiated a number of ceasefires over the course of his work eradicating the guinea worm, particularly in the South Sudanese civil war.
A ceasefire is a noble goal by itself, but it’s astonishing to think that Carter helped negotiate one as a side effect of a larger project he was working on. Usually humanitarian workers have no choice but to pull out of a country when fighting breaks out, which just increases the death toll of whatever the war is about.
Truly one of the greats. No one can argue that he didn’t leave the world a little bit better than he found it, except maybe the Guinea Worm Appreciation Society.
Elizabelle
I am glad that JEC is spared living through a second ___ administration. That was the only silver lining for losing Ozark and Steep and Debbie and JR too. Not even to know that Americans could be so damned stupid and shortsighted.
TBone
It’s like losing a friend’s parent who was yours too just by being there. You knew they were there and that was enough.
Elizabelle
@Jeffro: George Will. That moron probably wrote his op ed two decades ago. LOL.
WaterGirl
So sad to have lost such a truly great human being, but so relieved that the piece of shit does not get to preside over a state funeral for Jimmy Carter.
You and your beloved Rosalynn are together for eternity.
Betsy
May God bless him and rest his soul.
He touched so many lives — countless were his good deeds. A great life truly lived.
tobie
Oh how very sad. Jimmy Carter was the most devout President I’ve experienced and he lived and lead by his faith. It was a faith deep enough and confident enough to embrace any- and everyone regardless of their beliefs. I valued that in Carter and will miss him for that among many other things. Our world is getting meaner and smaller. We need more Jimmys.
mali muso
A loss for the world, but he leaves behind a truly great legacy. I will always be grateful I had the good fortune to meet him briefly. May he rest in eternal peace.
Elizabelle
With Jimmy Carter, you cannot mourn. Just be glad that he lived, and for that long. He lived a good and purposeful life, and then some. Survived cancer in his 90s. Was there, always, for his beloved Rosalyn, whom he first spied as a newborn his own mother had helped deliver.
He is ready for his rest.
SiubhanDuinne
@JPL:
Yes indeed, I’ve been to Plains many times. One of the last big events I organised for the Canadian Consulate before I retired was a book launch* that took place on the grounds of the JC Boyhood Farm. I sat next to Rosalynn at the luncheon, and the next morning she invited me to share her pew at the Maranatha Baptist Church while Jimmy gave his Sunday School lesson. Worked with both Carters and their staff on a number of issues and activities over the years.
*The book was written by a Canadian historian from McGill and was a curated collection of documents and speeches about Carter’s relationship with Canada — as a nuclear engineer in the USNavy, as POTUS, and as partner on a slew of post-Presidential global initiatives, including Guinea worm eradication.
Jay
President Jimmy Carter was a much greater man than he was President, because The Office and the times could not let him be.
But he ranks way up there as President.
Post Presidency, he truly showed us all what a person could be.
Elizabelle
Now take Bibi! Heighten the contrasts!
prostratedragon
Photo gallery from TPM.
Betsy
@Quinerly: Thank you for these remarks. Good to see them.
NC’ian here. My mother wept on that night in 1980 as the map went for ugh Reagan.
Like tens of thousands of others, my parents made the pilgrimage to Plains to attend the Sunday School class that he taught every week at his home church.
A true unfailing real Christian who did so much good in the world.
Mai Naem mobile ¹
@Betty Cracker: you said it all here. He really gamed stuff out to consequences but also gave the US a morality hammer. I am so so glad that Joe Biden will be POTUS during the funeral and not TFG.
Scout211
Funeral services haven’t been announced yet but in doing a search, I learned that
Leto
@Quinerly: they made him give up his peanut farm, while that Orange shitstain was never made to do anything.
May he continue to be a sterling example of how to live your second act in life.
twbrandt
A friend of mine was on a Habitat build with him a number of years ago. He said President Carter worked as hard as everyone else, and was friendly and approachable. Truly a good person, a Christian who took Christ’s teachings seriously.
FelonyGovt
RIP, what a wonderful man. I’m actually happy it happened before January 20, and hopefully they can give him an appropriate and dignified service. I was shuddering to think how it would have been handled afterward…
Steve LaBonne
@zhena gogolia: Especially since it was reported that he wanted to hang on long enough to vote for Harris. :(
Elizabelle
The Vichy Times has an op ed up. America needs more Jimmy Carters.
What? Dead Democrats?
Your paper bears a LOT of responsibility and shame, Putz and Kahn. You’d shank him again.
KatKapCC
He’s with his Rosalynn again. Peaceful eternity to both of them <3
Leto
@Elizabelle: there was a meme that went around for years, with Death at one of those claw vending machines, lifting a name, and the caption usually was, “How is it not Kissinger?” Need to update it with the Russian assets name.
Quinerly
Axios has some great quotes, pics up
https://www.axios.com/
KatKapCC
@twbrandt: Jimmy was the kind of Christian that Jesus actually would have wanted to hang out with. Some of these others…not so much.
Jackie
@Betty Cracker: My dad admired and respected Jimmy Carter so much! I picture Dad standing right behind St Pete and Rosalynn at the pearly gate waiting to greet and shake his hand.
Elizabelle
This news does not make me sad. It just makes me relieved for his family and other loved ones that they get to deal with Biden-Harris.
What an opportunity to demonstrate what could have been.
JPL
@SiubhanDuinne: Such special memories.
Maybe a front pager will put up Luckovich’s latest drawings.
Mike Luckovich (@mluckovich.bsky.social) — Bluesky
Leto
Music selection: I’ll Fly Away from O Brother Where Art Thou? by Gillian Welch. Seems appropriate.
The Audacity of Krope
Carter stood for peace and was President at a time when working people were getting far too comfortable receiving income.
The proles needed a Reagan to show them their place.
Elizabelle
@JPL: Too cute. In one of the cartoons, an angel at the right is holding a paintbrush, I guess.
Looks a bit like a troll doll. ;-)
WaterGirl
@JPL:
Elizabelle
@Leto: Enjoyed hearing about that class you took. What fun to be back in school, among other students.
WaterGirl
Quinerly
@Betsy:
Pitt County “born and breaded” here. Substantial roots in Carteret County, too. East Carolina University class of 1982! Go Pirates!!!
I, too, went to Plains for one of his Sunday School classes. Was on a trip home from St. Louis and took a few extra days to hit Savannah and then Plains. Going to dig out my 3 signed books by him….waited in line in St. Louis for 3 book signings.
Elizabelle
Jimmy Carter was loved and admired. And appreciated in his lifetime, if not, alas, during his presidency.
KatKapCC
@WaterGirl: Oh wow. Made me sniffle.
MazeDancer
If the VP had won, Mr. Carter might have hung on to see her inaugurated. But, I, for one, am glad he doesn’t have to endure even another day under a Trump administration.
What a truly great man. The world is a little poorer tonight without him. But we are all so much richer that he was here
Betty Cracker
@Leto: Love that song.
hedgehog mobile
@hitchhiker: Mine too. Truly a great and good man. May he meet his Roslynn in the afterlife.
zhena gogolia
@JPL: Those are nice.
Professor Bigfoot
@Betty Cracker: Amen.
Elizabelle
I am glad to be talking about an actual decent human being here. Biden, yes. Harris, yes. Walz, yes.
Incoming. Is incoming. For sure. (General Russel Honore op ed in the FTF NY Vichy Times today: Elon Musk is a National Security Risk. They are sure not highlighting it! Do love that it’s got a fairly phallic illustration accompanying, though.)
Leto
@Elizabelle: it’s a different relationship, not being in charge of people that age. I’m not responsible for them, which is a nice thing. For the most part, I try to shut up and let them do most of the talking. It’s their chance to shine, develop, and work through things. But it’s fun :)
Elizabelle
@MazeDancer: Yes. I think he might have!
FelonyGovt
@WaterGirl: That one made me cry.
Leto
@FelonyGovt: yeah, that one… whew.
Baud
JPL
This made me laugh
Willie was good friends with President Carter. Thanks to that, Willie and the president’s son Chip became the first people to smoke pot on the roof of the White House. It’s possible they were also the first to smoke pot anywhere at the White House.
Westyny
A great man who became one by being a good man. He’s shown us all how it’s done: one step at a time.
schrodingers_cat
@NotoriousJRT: That was my first thought. President Biden will give President Carter the goodbye he deserves.
mappy!
Was, could have been, will always be. Rip dear man.
MazeDancer
Of course, we can all take solace in the fact that Mr.Carter’s funeral will command a much bigger – and global – audience than Trump’s swearing in.
Elizabelle
@JPL: I wonder if Willie Nelson will be at the funeral.
Ye shall know them by the company they keep. Way cool.
TBone
@JPL: The Allman Brothers were also instrumental in his election. There’s a great quote by one about drinking with him.
Soprano2
@Baud: Mine either. It’s terrible what some people in this country admire, isn’t it?
Tazj
R.I.P. Such a wonderful man who did such good work his entire life.My parents loved Carter and were so angry when Reagan was elected.They would remind me that he was very intelligent and that he used to be in the Navy. My dad and grandfather were in the Navy so you know he was popular in my family.
Rusty
Best comment I’ve seen on President Carter’s passing, “His death isn’t a loss, his life was a victory. “
lowtechcyclist
@Jeffro:
I was already firmly in the “fuck George Will with rusty farm implements” camp. This only reinforces that judgment.
RIP Jimmy C.
Geminid
@The Audacity of Krope: Jimmy Carter’s most important accomplishment was the 1978 Camp David Accords. The peace treaty between Egypt and Israel has been a cornerstone of peace and stability in the Middle East ever since. Both Anwar Sadat and Menachim Begin were awarded the Nobel Peace Prize for the Accords, but Jimmy Carter deserved one too.
Leto
@Soprano2: McCain’s funeral serves as the relevant reference point in that regard.
Elizabelle
I am sure that James Fallows will have something meaningful to say. In time.
Baud
I guess Trump’s people convinced him to issue a comparatively benign statement. Not linking though.
Elizabelle
@lowtechcyclist: The WaPost had a bunch of tributes to George Will up recently. I was like, I guess he died? OK, that’s fine.
It was his 50th anniversary with that paper.
Elizabelle
@Rusty: That is wonderful. It’s true, too.
I am just relishing talking about somebody good. It is so rare.
Dangerman
Late to the thread and clearly this must not be a topic missed, but Thank God this happened before you know who is in charge. Timing wise, you know who isn’t anywhere near the funeral. Go golfing, MF.
JMG
One night at the 1996 Olympics, a bunch of us sportswriters were at a table at Manuel’s, a bar and grill near the Carter Center. Jimmy and Rosalyn came in and took a table on the second floor to have dinner. We saw them and waved hello. He sent a round of drinks to our table in response.
Old Man Shadow
A good man.
America would be a much better place if his fellow Christians chose his life as the example to follow instead of Trump’s.
I hope he’s with his wife now in paradise.
narya
Best description of George Will I ever saw was DaveBarry’s: he looks like he inadvertently licked bus station plumbing.
Elizabelle
@Dangerman: It is something that that was the first thought for just about all of us, no? Little mercies.
We are going to be setting off fireworks when Satan calls The Felon home. Musk and the other oligarchs too. Thinking the late Brian Thompson may have been. The first.
Leto
@Baud: nobody should have to see that, so here’s a link to dogs living their best lives.
Nukular Biskits
A life well-lived. And a true servant to humanity.
Godspeed.
Elizabelle
@narya: Laughing. Perfect.
schrodingers_cat
@Baud: I am going to miss Biden.
Leto
@narya: George Will is what you get if lead and asbestos had a baby.
SiubhanDuinne
@SiubhanDuinne:
Correction: Queen’s University, not McGill.
JPL
@JMG: I still haven’t been there. Next year for sure.!
Dangerman
@Elizabelle: Hard to believe but the statement put out by the POS was approaching if not clearly appropriate.
BTW, what happened to JDV? Dude disappeared. Witness protection already?
Elizabelle
@schrodingers_cat: I so hope we won’t have to.
I was hoping President Harris would give him an important assignment. Like reforming the Supreme Court.
It’s all coming up way too soon, isn’t it?
Although. Am glad to hear your dad is home and on the mend.
MazeDancer
Just read that flags are flown at half-mast in DC for 30 days after a President dies.
So they will be in the appropriate position for Trump’s swearing in.
SiubhanDuinne
@JPL:
Those are all great!
SiubhanDuinne
@MazeDancer:
Okay, that’s actually pretty delicious.
Frank Wilhoit
I cast my first vote for Gerald Ford in 1976, as the lesser of two demagogues. It has not happened since, and will never happen again, for the Republican candidate to be the lesser of two demagogues. It is too late now to guess whether Ford might have done better.
The other lesson of 1976, one of the clearest and most durable lessons of any kind and of all time, is that primaries are bad magic. Carter started out crosswise with the party machine, which therefore set out to tear him down and had no difficulty doing so. Of course that was not the right thing for it to do, but it was inevitable; organizations gonna organization.
Jay
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/chalk-river-nuclear-accident-1.6293574
Sure Lurkalot
My first vote for president in ‘76, no regrets whatsoever. Who followed is the top of my list of worst presidents in my lifetime….Reagan, because he made it popular to distrust government and set us on the trickle down course that led straight to this age of plutocrat overlords.
Jimmy was my mother’s favorite president and it was strictly because of his innate and inherent goodness. RIP, good sir. What an example for us to follow.
The Audacity of Krope
We need to recognize both national tragedies, so quarter-mast it is.
SiubhanDuinne
@Dangerman:
Better than I would have expected, but the line about the “exclusive club” had me gritting my teeth.
Elizabelle
@MazeDancer: I love it.
Elizabelle
@Dangerman: Who? I am blinded by Daff Fuhrer Elon Musk.
Leto
@Dangerman: there’s no Vice-Vice President, so he’s off doing something important… like licking flag poles or sniffing glue.
SiubhanDuinne
@Jeffro:
I didn’t read George Will’s column. Went straight to the comments. Will is getting dragged mercilessly, and I am here for it!
No Nym
James Earl Carter was truly a model human being, a person who walked his spiritual talk. He was the first president I voted for, and though I share the pain of his passing, I am relieved Biden will oversee his sendoff.
KatKapCC
@MazeDancer: Oh, that is delicious.
lowtechcyclist
@SiubhanDuinne:
To paraphrase Groucho, I’d like to take an exclusive club and hit him over the head with it.
Dangerman
@SiubhanDuinne: Missed it. Once a POS, always …
KatKapCC
President Obama’s statement is beautiful and moving, as to be expected.
dww44
@dmsilev: I’m afraid you will be right but it would be better for all of us if he had the grace and humility to not show up. I keep remembering how he behaved in Europe his first term.
Elizabelle
@MazeDancer:
Well done, Jimmy. Well done. An actual patriot to the last breath.
SiubhanDuinne
@JPL:
LOL! Never heard that story before, and now I just want to hug it all night.
The Audacity of Krope
I’d like it if millions of Americans could share that club.
Quinerly
Highly recommend the movie “Jimmy Carter: Rock & Roll President.” 2020
Dylan, Willie, Buffett, Allman Brothers and a bunch more.
SFAW
My first and second presidential votes. Not a great President, but a great, great man.
I remember the shrieking when he once said he had “lusted in [his] heart.” Good times, at least compared to the Orange Abomination.
If The Convicted Felon had one-tenth the class and humanity that Jimmy Carter had, he’d be 100 times better as a person or president than he is.
Quinerly
@MazeDancer:
Cute meme going around already about flags at half mast for Pres Musk’s inauguration.
japa21
There is no way I could create a sufficient eulogy. He was a role model for people of all stripes. Unfortunately, too many people who could have learned from his life, chose instead to ridicule him.
Another Scott
WhiteHouse.gov:
The Carter Center says the details of the arrangements in DC and GA will be at https://jtfncr.mdw.army.mil/statefunerals/
Godspeed, President Carter. Condolences to all who knew and loved him and were touched by him.
Best wishes,
Scott.
Ruckus
@Baud:
In many ways, mostly due to themselves, conservatives have really not done themselves much good in the last 35 or so years. In all my life they haven’t been exceptional in any way as a political party but they now see their concepts of actual life being rather unappreciated by a rather substantial percentage of citizens and they are fighting a hopefully losing fight for power and control, and the best they can do is shitforbrains, who is rapidly aging out, who I do not expect to be able to do much before he is retired by his own party. Of course he didn’t do much last time because of who and what he is. I just hope the rest of us live through it.
TBone
Below is a music related tribute I originally wrote for President Jimmy Carter over a year ago when he first entered hospice care in February 2023. I expected it would only be a short time until he passed. When he didn’t, I decided to save it until October 1, 2024 to celebrate his 100th birthday should he make it to that milestone.
However, with today’s unhappy news about the passing of Dickey Betts (1943 – 2024) I decided it is time to finally post the article because the great second guitarist of The Allman Brothers Band is quoted in it.
Betts’ most famous songs with the outstanding sextet are “Revival,” “In Memory of Elizabeth Reed,” “Blue Sky,” and of course, “Jessica,” and “Ramblin’ Man.”
Because most blogs and websites will likely post more traditional news stories and tributes, I hope this essay serves as something a little different and as an homage to both men.
https://bloggerhythms.blogspot.com/2023/03/jimmy-carters-friendship-with-allman.html?m=1
zhena gogolia
@Baud: Nice, thanks.
zhena gogolia
Husband: “Would it that we had another Jimmy Carter-type person coming in” — (caught himself) — “we would have, with Harris.”
KatKapCC
@zhena gogolia: Oh man. That made me choke up again.
zhena gogolia
@schrodingers_cat: His statements are always pitch-perfect.
Mousebumples
I’m not glad he’s dead, by any means, but I’m glad he’ll be properly honored by his friend, President Biden.
Rest in Power, President Carter.
zhena gogolia
@MazeDancer: That gives me a warm feeling.
zhena gogolia
@Frank Wilhoit: You’re saying Carter was a demagogue?
schrodingers_cat
@zhena gogolia: He is a good person and was a great President. We failed him. By we, I mean the country and the Democratic party.
Jackie
@Baud:
I saw that. Definitely not his words, and it won’t be long before his true self comes out in spades.
KatKapCC
@zhena gogolia: Yeah, that’s an absurd statement, unless the commenter was reprising their many-years-younger ill-informed thinking with an implied eyeroll at the wrongness of it.
zhena gogolia
@KatKapCC: The main thing I remember about his presidency is his telling the nation to start conserving energy. Would that we had listened.
KatKapCC
@zhena gogolia: Seriously.
Wolvesvalley
@FelonyGovt:
Me, too.
Baud
Jackie
@Jay: I just sent the WaPo link to WaterGirl. I’ve had it bookmarked since Carter entered hospice over a year ago. Thanks for posting it!
zhena gogolia
@KatKapCC:
That’s really great. I love this part:
Suzanne
I heard this terrible news while out shopping this afternoon. I am sad, but I am thankful for his amazing life, and that he won’t have to live through what’s coming. I hope his family is at peace.
redoubtagain
@JMG:
The most Atlanta story I think I ever heard.
Met him once, when he came to our Fed. Kind, gracious, obliging.
Fair winds and following seas.
Torrey
@Jeffro:
George Will is a columnist that makes not reading his column necessary. At least if you want to be well-informed.
TBone
@Baud: awesome
Ruckus
@zhena gogolia:
Think about the shear number of people that did vote for her. It wasn’t enough of course but I’d bet that a lot of people that voted for shitforbrains are at least starting to see him for what he is – and ISN’T.
I believe that she will possibly, one day, be president. I really, really, really hope I’m here to vote for her and to see her become president.
Maybe, a rather slim maybe enough on the other side of the aisle will actually see that shitforbrains is really not in any way qualified to be president of a country of 340 million people. Or even of a gang of two completely soused drunks. His life has been and is a mirror of what he thinks he is – and never has been.
But then it takes all kinds to make up humanity. Some amazing and great, most in the middle just living and then those like him, that think the world revolves around the stick they have located in their exit ports.
zhena gogolia
@Ruckus: I still have hope too, I guess.
TS
Wonderful person who genuinely and sincerely cared for others. He is what a President should be & rather like now, was defeated by people playing politics with other people’s lives.
One of the few who make me wish to believe the stories of Heaven – he earned his path there as few have done. May he rest in peace with his Rosalynn.
Steve in the ATL
@zhena gogolia: probably a typo. I’m sure he meant demigod.
YY_Sima Qian
Uhh! F*ck 2024!
KatKapCC
@Ruckus: Obviously I don’t know her mind, but I have a hard time believing she’d want to put herself through another campaign, when she did everything as best as she possibly could have under such unusual circumstances and incredible pressure…and it still wasn’t enough.
I saw someone wonder if she might come back to CA and run for Governor, and I’d be jazzed as all get out for that. Even if I would feel a bit bad for our Lieutenant Governor who filed her candidacy a long time ago and would have been seen as the favorite, or close to.
zhena gogolia
NYT obit is by Peter Baker. Hard pass.
The Audacity of Krope
I’d love to see it. I wish I had confidence in Democrats to give her the opportunity at a time when she is actually seeking it.
Mostly white, mostly male Donorcrats taking their black, female colleague for granted.
Haha, I should hope so. I bolded it.
zhena gogolia
@The Audacity of Krope: ISWYDT
citizen dave
My first Presidential vote was in 1980. I was 19. I voted for–brain creaking….if I recall correctly….John Anderson.
Electoral vote
489
49
0
States carried
44
6 + DC
0
Popular vote
43,903,230
35,481,115
5,719,850
Percentage
50.7%
41.0%
6.6%
Ruckus
@zhena gogolia:
Never give up hope.
It’s often the only thing that makes living worthwhile.
Hope it will be better and help make it better because every little bit helps. This is a country that gets better because enough of us want it better, not because of one shitty human only cares about himself and his bank account.
SiubhanDuinne
@Quinerly:
It would not surprise me one little particle if TFG decided to ask SCOTUS to lift the half-staff provision during Inauguration Week. And this SCOTUS would probably acquiesce.
Nukular Biskits
Marshall Ramsey is a political cartoonist for Mississippi Today.
Here’s his tribute to Jimmy and Rosalynn Carter:
https://bsky.app/profile/marshallramsey.bsky.social/post/3lei4zj7rbs2h
Nukular Biskits
@citizen dave:
You’re a few years older than am I.
My first presidential ballot cast was in 1984 and I regret to say it was for Reagan.
Kathleen
My greatest memory of his Presidency was a speech he gave about how America was facing a crisis of confidence aka “The Malaise Speech”. I was so impressed that a public figure had the courage to speak unpleasant truth.
This first link is from Bill of Rights Institute and it’s a detailed exposition about why Carter gave the speech (context!) and how country reacted.
https://billofrightsinstitute.org/essays/jimmy-carter-and-the-malaise-speech
Second link is to the speech itself. (34 minutes)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXwZSzy9Ies&ab_channel=CBSNew
ETA: The other overarching memory I have is how the media maligned and mocked him. If anyone else here who remembers that era has a different recollection pls let me know.
bjacques
@Torrey: that would be the same George Fwill who got hold of Carter’s debate notes in 1980 and slipped them to the Reagan campaign. He will die forgotten.
President Carter makes think how trivial quarter-trillionaire Musk really is.
Baud
Ohio Mom
My first Presidential vote too. Well, and my second.
It wasn’t until this comment thread that I appreciated his timing, to have his send off under Biden’s watchful eye.
I hope Biden gives a eulogy that short circuits brain cells of all those mindlessly repeating that Biden is senile (projection much?). Yes, Biden is growing frail but he still has all his marbles.
ETA: Also waiting to see this latest version of inappropriate dress exhibited by Melania).
Ruckus
@KatKapCC:
She would make a great governor but she would also make a great president. And while I’m a male, my half of humanity is only half. And often the half that demands respect and deference. We’ve been a country of, by and for humans for a bit of humanity but have never had a leader from 1/2 of the world’s human population. I’d like to see a woman leading this country because her half of this country DESERVES real representation. That they have never really had. And respect is earned and she has done that, something that shitforbrains never has done, and never will – because he’s completely incapable.
Lily
Elizabelle
@Kathleen: America doesn’t want truth. Apparently half of the voting public does not. They want fairy tales.
But. Some of those fairy tales are very dark. And have lessons learned the hard way.
Steve in the ATL
@SiubhanDuinne: last George Will column I read was in the eighties. It was one of his tedious screeds about how baseball should be changed to his liking. I was too young to be political but that garbage was enough for me to write him off. Turned out to be a good choice.
The Audacity of Krope
Enforced by law and drilled into our students’ heads in elementary school.
zhena gogolia
@Kathleen: That’s my recollection too. He was wearing a sweater — it was the “tan suit” of its day. The point was, wear a sweater instead of turning the heat up. har har har what an idiot.
zhena gogolia
@Ruckus: Great comment.
The Audacity of Krope
Energy industry executives work their fingers to the bone extracting fossil fuels for us, they deserve every penny we have.
That’s why I keep my house at 102 degrees even though it keeps me sick and dehydrated.
Elizabelle
I think this is another gift from Jimmy Carter. Because we have needed to mourn and gather in public, since the dreadful election results. How better to gather, in memory and honor of a very good man.
We have been in mourning, and shellshocked, ever since early November. Trauma.
We do not need to be either happy or hopeful about what is coming in. Not normal times, and has not been so, for years.
zhena gogolia
@Elizabelle: Another good comment!
Kathleen
@bjacques: I had forgotten that.
laura
Jimmy Carter walked his faith and lived a life in service to others. He’s earned his rest.
Kathleen
@Elizabelle: Which is why the speech made such an impression on me.
Elizabelle
@zhena gogolia: Jimmy Carter lived through the Depression. In the deep South. Among many who were not as fortunate as he was. He was very aware of that.
He was wise about conservation, and stewardship.
Today? We would take Gordon Gekko over Daff Fuhrer Musk and the gazillionaires incoming.
Kathleen
@zhena gogolia: Thank you! I been misremembering a lot. I know that’s not a word but this is the Post Grammar Age Of Trump where we can just make shit up.
Kathleen
@Elizabelle: Very good point.
Elizabelle
@zhena gogolia: Thank you. You are dear to say that.
It is a pleasure to remember someone with actual grace and, OK, grit.
Torrey
@Kathleen:
“Misremember” isn’t a word? The Oxford English Dictionary traces “misremember” back to the early 16th century, which means it was almost certainly around well before that.
Kathleen
Why thank you! I had obviously had no clue.
Melancholy Jaques
Jimmy Carter in 1976 was the first presidential election I voted in and the first time I volunteered for any election. He is the reason I became and remained one of those people who cares about politics and gets involved. The way he conducted himself in the years since 1980 is the reason I am not going to let Trump 2.0 defeat me. He is my first and last political hero.
Torrey
It has been said above, but should be continually emphasized that, if we had paid attention to Jimmy Carter, and specifically if the media hadn’t undercut his message about fossil fuels and the environment, we would not now be in the situation we are in. This was all known in the 1970’s.
The Audacity of Krope
Is 500 years long enough to really say something is well-established, though?
scav
Respect In Perpetuity along with the usual meaning. Good man.
Damned at Random
@Baud:
You know Trump’s people wrote it if spelling and grammar are correct. Trump will post later from his throne
Jackie
@Quinerly:
Available on Prime and other streaming services 👍🏻 I’ll be watching it tomorrow!
CCL
I had forgotten about the Chalk River incident. Another profile in smarts and courage: Jimmy Carter and the Chalk River Nuclear Reactor.
Ruckus
@Ohio Mom:
I’m getting up there, about 3/4 of a decade younger than Joe Biden and a life long democrat because of the view that I see the vast majority of democrats have which is we are all important and that while money is nice it is not the center of the universe. I have only voted democrat since my first vote 53 yrs ago. (Last of the had to be 21 yrs old to vote group – turned 21 the year one could be 18) And considered that to be very realistic, seeing as how we were in Vietnam and I was in the USN. I got sent half a world away from Vietnam but knew and know many that were there. One I’ve known for over 50 yrs, met him 2 days after I was discharged. And I use the VA and many of the vets I see are in my age group and were there. I wonder what vets will think if shitforbrains screws up the VA. Pompous arrogant ass didn’t serve in the war of his youth. When I went to my 50th HS reunion some of my classmates were not there, they served and were sent to Vietnam – and came back in body bags. If you are my age it seems likely that you knew at least one man that went and possibly one that didn’t walk off the plane when back in the US.
Elizabelle
Biden may be about to speak in a few, about the late, great President Carter.
Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)
@Elizabelle:
I’ve had that thought before, too. Debbie passed away in the summer of 2021, right? She didn’t have to witness Dobbs either. She passed away right at the point where it seemed like there were endless possibilities for the new administration and Trump was disgraced (or so it seemed)
RIP Jimmy Carter and those jackals that have been lost but not forgotten
Ruckus
@narya:
I remember seeing that some where and laughed just like I did seconds ago.
Thank you!
Elizabelle
@Goku (aka Amerikan Baka): My mom missed The Felon entirely (died in 2014), and I was always so grateful for that.
Ben Cisco
@Ruckus:
I agree and sent her a letter a few days ago that included (among other things) a plea for her to consider running again.
Ruckus
@Leto:
THANK YOU FOR THAT!
I laughed so hard I’ve got tears.
tobie
I didn’t appreciate it at the time but my father got an invitation to the Rose Garden in 1978 to see President Carter sign an order for a commission to establish a national Holocaust museum. My sister and I were allowed to go with him that day, though we didn’t appreciate what it meant to be invited to the Rose Garden. I just looked up the event and saw a photo with my father in it in a corner. He passed away a year and a half ago. I’m a puddle right now.
https://www.ushmm.org/information/about-the-museum/presidents-commission
dww44
@Baud: Trump is not a normal Republican. Let’s see how long he will take to make this all about himself. Besides his presence will diminish what is being eulogized about a person who was the very antithesis of everything that the President elect is. I do not want him there
Elizabelle
@tobie: My condolences, again. And how wonderful to have visited the Rose Garden. With a good POTUS in office.
Elizabelle
@Ben Cisco: I hope so too. I want to live in President Kamala Harris World.
Ruckus
@zhena gogolia:
Thank You.
Life is too short to be a jackass for every minute of it. And it’s often a lot shorter than one might imagine. Had a cousin that lived 6 months. A mom who lived 94 years and 364 days. Life is what it is and what you make of it. I say live a good life, respect others, live life like you hope and expect others to do. You may get 6 months, some get over a century. Don’t live like every day may be your last, live like you want to last. Be a reasonable part of life, not an unreasonable part. And enjoy as much as you can, because life will almost always seem too short. I’ve eaten lunch in an airplane that could no longer fly and was turned into a restaurant, I’ve stood on a glacier on Mt Cook both in New Zealand. I’ve traveled/worked in 49 of the states while in professional sports. I’ve crossed the Atlantic 6 times, I’ve visited many countries in Europe, been above the Arctic circle in winter and to the southern tip of New Zealand. Ridden a motorcycle in several countries one of which was opposite side of the road from the US. Been to Guantanamo Bay 3 times. And no not in the prison….
I’m an old fart and want a lot more years to get to be an older fart.
My point is living is as good as you make it. Money is nice, it’s not the answer. Greed is asinine. Hate only makes you hated. Humans are human the world over. Some are great, most are good, some aren’t worth a damn. And most of the time it’s up to the person, not the surroundings. You don’t have to be like anyone else, be yourself, but be good at it. Or at the very least not bad at it.
p.a.
RIP.
All the bible-thumping frauds in the public sphere in this country should hang their heads in shame from Carter’s lifelong display of what real Christian faith looks like.
tobie
@Elizabelle: Thanks so much. It feels like it’s been a year of deep loss. As you wisely noted: we need time to grieve. Whatever dreams, hopes, and faith we had in the country was shattered on Nov 5. This doesn’t mean we won’t at some point recover. Or that we won’t fight. But we need to acknowledge the pain. I’ll be there when Biden delivers his eulogy.
Another Scott
Another good story of one of Jimmy’s accomplishments, of getting the work done without getting much subsequent credit for it, was his efforts in reforming government operations. GovExec has a good story on some of the details.
Best wishes,
Scott.
Raflw
I just finished a 10h45m drive from Kansas City to the CO Rocky Mtns, never looked at my phone feeds nor turned on a radio, so I’m just catching the news.
I was a kid when he was President. I remember my dad not liking him much, and just starting to have some early political awareness by the time of the hostage crisis.
Jimmy was by and large a very good and decent man. It was interesting a t 6 months ago to watch an older documentary from PBS that had a lot about how ambitious he was, and of course one has to have that to run for and win the office! But as a kid he seemed like a remarkably ordinary man (a good thing to my mind, esp after creepy Nixon).
May he rest in peace. And if there’s anything after this mortal coil, may he be reunited with Rosalyn.
rikyrah
RIP🙏🏽😢
Best former President
rikyrah
My parents loved Carter.
Hated Reagan.
comrade scotts agenda of rage
@rikyrah:
I love your parents.
Carter was my first presidential vote in 1980. I should have known then based on the outcome of that election where we’d be today.
Another Scott
The WhiteHouse proclamation:
Click over and read the whole thing.
Best wishes,
Scott.
rekoob
When asked why I’m a Democrat, I usually respond with “Barbara Jordan”, but I could also easily say “Jimmy Carter”. I remember Jordan’s keynote at the 1976 DNC and my father had noted that the post-Watergate sentiment would lead to a Democratic victory that year. I was too young to vote then, but I got my chance in 1980, and I haven’t wavered since. May President Carter’s memory be a blessing to us for generations to come.
Kay
I loved Carter, but “moral clarity” requires telling the truth and that is almost always not popular. Jimmy Carter loved Habitat for Humanity and there’s lots of photos of him smiling and pounding nails but Jimmy Carter also said things like “the United States is now an oligarchy with unlimited bribery” and that’s why a lot of powerful people hated him.
I hope there’s two versions of Carter, like there’s two versions of MLK Jr, and one of them is real. They’ll only tell the “nice” parts of the story that don’t rock the boat and it will be up to us to tell the truth.
Alabama Blue Dot
@hitchhiker: Mine, too, thanks to the 26th amendment. My Auburn University Young Democrats group got a van and drove over to Plains on election night. It was an amazing experience.
Gloria DryGarden
@TBone: this.
Made me cry.