I have nothing but rage, but at least here’s a place to talk about it.
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I have nothing but rage, but at least here’s a place to talk about it.
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Quicksand
Yes, rage. Embarrassment. And honestly a really dark, sinking feeling.
Gary K
Rage yes, but even more shame.
Parfigliano
I watched it live. Just unbelievable.
beckya57
I’ve donated before, but just started a monthly, putting my rage and shame to some use.
zhena gogolia
I cannot watch it.
I knew this was coming since the election. But to watch it unfold is torture.
I have a monthly donation to Razom. That’s all I can do. I’ll call my representatives, but I know they’re already on the right side. They just weren’t given any power by the American people.
BethanyAnne
I found Paul Warburg’s youtube video about what Trump has done, and will do, to be quite informative.
https://youtu.be/FXgEr0yTkGo
I have really been appreciating his analysis. It may not be any sort of groundbreaking, but he does talk about Trump’s history of trying to shock people into accepting bad deals.
Butch
Here’s the site to donate directly to Ukraine:
https://u24.gov.ua/
Ksmiami
Donated at razom site. My message in optional message was Fuck Trump and Putin
WaterGirl
ljt
I was curious about the difference between Razom and United24. Razom’s focus is humanitarian aid and supporting local organizations, while U24 supports defense forces. Both worthy causes.
WaterGirl
h/t MazeDancer for the twitter link with all the countries standing by Ukraine.
WaterGirl
Old School
But Trump was going to get us rare earths!
zhena gogolia
@ljt: I guess I’ll have to set up a monthly to U24 too.
Elizabelle
I put a bunch of links up in Rose’s thread, where we have been discussing this meeting. Including The Guardian’s roundup on social media from actual world leaders, and long excerpts from the WaPost’s reporting.
We have been discussing it in Rose’s thread for quite a while.
jimmiraybob
Ambush.
Anonymous at Work
I give periodically but directly to their government. My boss and I discussed this incident as well. I told him I am now news-adverse since I can’t bear to see my country fall so far so quickly.
However, I am keeping up since the alternative involves video game or Netflix addictions.
rikyrah
Just disgusting.
Ukraine is led by a patriot.
We are being led by traitors to the concept of democracy. We are led by Putin’s byotches.
Steve LaBonne
The Poles and Ukrainians together could overrun Russia in a few weeks. Add in Czechia and Finland and it would be quicker than that. And the Russians know they would be incinerated by the French and British nuclear arsenals if they tried anything funny.
rikyrah
Ukraine is England 1940.
I stand by that.
Steve LaBonne
@rikyrah: They thankfully are far less alone than that. Multiple Eastern European countries are well aware that it’s their turn next if Ukraine falls. And there are quite formidable military powers and armaments industries among them.
HopefullyNotcassandra
@Quicksand:
A mantra for you if you want it
America had to suffer through Hoover to get FDR.
@heymistermix.com
If you want to see the whole unedited thing, a Fox affiliate in DFW posted the raw feed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSe0ntgfpq4&t=4s
bbleh
Groping for a silver lining, about all I can come up with is, it’s certainly clarifying. I don’t really see any way to spin this as anything other than it was.
The usual jerks will crow about “strong” and “dealz” and “no more giveaways” and the rest of it, but there’s no mistaking the behavior of either the Orange Guy or his mini-Me.
Also, MSM coverage is not very favorable. Even FTFNYT’s story (and hed) makes it clear they attacked Zelenskyy.
What a humiliating sh!t-show. And so much for international trust in the US…
caphilldcne
I am ashamed. Just donated. Thanks for the link.
oldgold
Instead of allowing the AP into the Oval Office to cover what turned into a debacle, they invited Margaret Taylor Greene’s boyfriend, Brian Glenn. He used this opportunity to berate Zelensky for showing disrespect by not wearing a suit in the Oval Office.
Has Brian Glenn observed Eloon in the Oval Office?
Worse, our spineless of State, following this debacle has tweeted: “Thank you Mr. President for standing up for America in a way no other President has had the courage to do before.”
Every day I feel more and more like I am a stranger in a strange land. Is this really happening?
Steve LaBonne
@bbleh: So much PERMANENTLY for international trust in the US. Everyone knows we will not for a long time be more than one election away from returning to this shit.
HopefullyNotcassandra
@Gary K:
This administration nakedly and publicly hates this country.
Do not let them shame you. Do not let them make you join them in their all consuming hate of everything that does make this country great.
We are Americans. We think so far outside of the box that the box ceases to be. Keep that always in the front of your mind.
HopefullyNotcassandra
@BethanyAnne:
Trump certainly accepts plenty of terrible deals himself.
Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)
@oldgold:
“…in a way no other President has had the courage to do before.”
That’s a pretty fucking long list. Rubio just shit over every single guy who has ever held the presidency, including George Washington, Abraham Lincoln, and so forth, just to give Mango Mussolini a damn tongue bath, after he destroyed our international reputation in the span of 5 minutes. JFC
Steve LaBonne
@HopefullyNotcassandra: To the billionaires who own Trump and Vance, we’re all just useless eaters who get in the way of their plans for a transhumanist Mars paradise.
Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)
@Steve LaBonne:
Well, to be fair, the rest of the world isn’t in much better shape
Melancholy Jaques
I know it’s not necessarily a popular thing to say, but the people who voted for that asshole, especially the so-called normies, need to be told that they voted for this. That they voted to disgrace our country and turn our ally over to Russia. Maybe that’s what they wanted, maybe they don’t give a shit, but I’m thinking this never entered their minds.
bbleh
@Steve LaBonne: exactly. This is LONG-term damage. Probably longer in duration than the other damage being done to our governing institutions, although the latter will hurt domestically more than the former.
And yes, the world was moving toward multipolarity anyway, but this just gave it a BIG shove.
@Melancholy Jaques: yes, and this is in part what I mean by “clarifying.” I think a lot of them DIDN’T think about it, or if they did, not that it would be this bad, but ain’t no mistaking this. And it’s getting COVERAGE, and not very flattering coverage either.
Their margin was THIN. We don’t need many to realize what they are and to jump the fence.
@HopefullyNotcassandra: He has ALWAYS been a TERRIBLE businessman. Look at his record — the hotels, the golf courses, the casinos, the branded merchandise. He lost ALL the money his dad (illegally) left him, and he was saved only by The Apprentice, which it’s well known had to be radically reverse-engineered routinely just to make his bizarre behavior seem rational. His judgment is awful and he’s incapable of negotiating with equals. All he can do is sell, bluster, and bully.
Martin
@rikyrah: Yep.
Steve LaBonne
@Melancholy Jaques: I wish I could agree, but the cult members at least knew very well they were voting for this. Remember “I’d rather be Russian than Democrat”?
French Onion Soup
@Goku (aka Amerikan Baka):
I’ve always found it galling that Trump compares himself to Andy Jackson. Andy Jackson was a monster but he didn’t run from military service and was a patriot who threatened to personally kill southern traitors if they so much as tried it. If the two met Jackson would beat Trump to death in front of everyone as soon as Trump opened his mouth. That he and his supporters don’t realize this should be surreal yet manages not to be anymore!
db11
Is there a way to send direct messages of support to Zelensky / Ukraine. An official email address for his office?
If so, could it be worthwhile to coordinate a mass show of support from non-MAGA Americans for Zelensky and Ukraine?
New Deal democrat
Since nobody else has noted it yet, a number of DC observers have noted that the Truth Social post was too quick to have been a new reaction. Rather, almost certainly the confrontation was pre-planned by T—-p and V—-e in WWE style.
Steve LaBonne
@Martin: Remember when conservatives were against unilateral disarmament?
Old School
HopefullyNotcassandra
@oldgold:
Yes. Our president and vice president have shown clearly that they despise our Greatest Generation and everything for which they stand.
Trump and Vance clearly think the wrong side won our revolution and our civil war. There is nothing they will not do to see the United States destroyed. That has become perfectly clear.
RaflW
I really think Trump is going to totally trash our whole Atlantic alliance. The other day when he claimed the EU was designed to “rip off” America is what convinced me.
Today’s shit show is the next installment. And it seems so far like European leaders are reading it correctly. We’re on our way out of NATO, multilateral trade, and yanking back everything like global TB surveillance and intervention.
All so we can ally with Russia, even as polling still shows the majority of Americans don’t want to buddy up with Vlad.
(BTW Nancy LeTourneau, who I’m pretty sure blogged here briefly, reposted a piece today that Hegseth has cancelled all DoD cyber countermeasures planning against Russia. We’re just going to let Putin infect all our digital spaces? What does that tell us?!)
WaterGirl
@Steve LaBonne:
zhena gogolia
@HopefullyNotcassandra: I like your style!
WaterGirl
Gary K
@Old School: Did you hear the idiot kept saying “raw earths”?
Chris Johnson
I hate them so much, and this is exactly what was going to happen, exactly the same as them using Musk to fire as much of the government as he can without regard to law.
This is a bust-out, I’m amazed they weren’t Sieg Heiling on camera and yelling ‘this is you! this is you!’.
Yes, I’m seething, and I’m also firmly of the opinion that I’m INTENDED to be seething, and so I’m gonna keep functioning and just add to the store of bitterness over these people doing exactly what I have repeatedly predicted they will do.
Next they will have the Tates as guests in the Oval Office.
This is performative. This is wrestling heels at work. It seems dangerous for them but they are trying to spur a civil war by any means necessary and if brazenly going full Russian Mob and daring everybody to do something about it is what it takes, they will goddamn do that and dare everybody to do something about it.
I don’t know how they mean to escape once they’ve triggered what they so clearly intend, but this is not for the purposes of building a stable and lasting totalitarian state. This is for starting a riot.
I don’t know what they mean to do with the riot but since they want it I don’t trust it.
WaterGirl
HopefullyNotcassandra
@Steve LaBonne:
Fine.
Like FDR, let us welcome their hate while we get about our duty of rescuing ourselves and our neighbors from it.
db11
@Goku (aka Amerikan Baka): No other (currently) democratic state has fallen as far down the slope to full autocracy. Nor is any even in the same order of magnitude in primacy, power or lethality.
Jay
@New Deal democrat:
John S.
Are we the baddies?
Yup, we are now.
bbleh
@RaflW: re NATO, I think it was at LGM I saw a post that said basically NATO will survive, just not with the US. IOW, it’s a highly visible part of the shift from a more unipolar world in which the US led “the West” to a multipolar one in which Europe does its own thing. But I’d say there’s no question that the US is indeed trashing OUR commitment to NATO. Even if it survives in some form, eg under a Dem administration, nobody will trust us for a loooong time.
As to Hegseth and cyber-security, I think we should assume that, between people like Trump and Gabbard in positions of authority, and with the Musk-rats running around poking holes in databases, our security is pretty much toast. If I were in clandestine service to the US, I’d be pushing every red button I could find and then running for the exits.
Old School
@Gary K: No, I didn’t watch the whole thing. I’ve just seen clips.
Jeffro
agreed
just like with J6, I will never, EVER stop reminding MAGAts that this is indeed what they voted for.
WaterGirl
Such a sad, shameful day for America.
db11
@RaflW:
It’s already trashed after less than 6 weeks. It will be generations before any (Western) nation fully trusts the U.S. again.
Jay
@RaflW:
What a “cunning plan” when China already owns ruZZia.
Quicksand
@HopefullyNotcassandra: Thank you. I’m not giving up hope. It just feels bad right now.
Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)
@db11:
Germany, the largest economy in Europe as well as one of the larger militaries, has the neo-Nazi AfD as the second largest party by vote. The rise of the far-right is a global phenomenon
TBone
Patton FTW
https://bsky.app/profile/pattonoswalt.bsky.social/post/3ljb4xparmc2h
Jim Appleton
There’s no way any of our allies are going to trust us after this debacle.
ETA @Steve LaBonne
Steve LaBonne
@Goku (aka Amerikan Baka): We have the neo-Nazi party in power with just short of 50% of the vote.
Sasha
I don’t have rage. Just disgust and contempt.
Disgust and contempt are far more sustainable and far less exhausting than rage.
db11
@Goku (aka Amerikan Baka): Which no other (major) German party will ally with to form a government. Like in France, in the recent elections the extreme right gained ground, but failed to form government. Unlike the U.S.
Which confirms my point that the US has fallen farther and faster — and with more consequence — than any country where the far right has made recent gains.
Ksmiami
@Jim Appleton: what allies?
WaterGirl
@Jim Appleton:
They really shouldn’t.
I can’t help but wonder if this is going to turn into a full-scale multi-country war with several countries getting directly involved, not just funding Ukraine.
Bill Arnold
Trump and Vance behaved like the stupid fucking assholes that they are.
As for Brian Glenn, my presence on twitter/x has been reduced to saying things like this to wingnuts: my reply to Brian Glenn defending his question to President Zelenskyy about a suit: “You are not even worthy of contempt.”
sab
@Chris Johnson: Riots then martial law is what they want.
Eunicecycle
@Jim Appleton: and they shouldn’t. Hell I don’t trust us!
Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)
@Steve LaBonne:
That doesn’t conflict with my broader point, that this is a worldwide problem
French Onion Soup
@Bill Arnold:
I would not be posting on X even with a VPN now. Or facebook. Small sites like this are of course fine. Some larger sites like Reddit are still fine. But I wouldn’t trust X or facebook no matter what. Even taking steps to be secure you never actually are.
Steve LaBonne
@Goku (aka Amerikan Baka): And you are ignoring mine, which is that we are way ahead of any of them except Hungary.
db11
@Jim Appleton:
We don’t and won’t. You can’t believe how quickly and completely Canada has flipped in its trust / affections towards the US.
It’s dizzying, but understandable — given Trump’s threats to seize our minerals, our water, our sovereignty. Fuck that.
Jim Appleton
@Ksmiami: Good point, sadly. Maybe should have said former or prospective.
Lenore
@sab: This is one reason why, I think, some Dem leadership isn’t pushing protests and civil action: they’re concerned the admin is waiting for an excuse to get physically ugly. So far it’s all been EOs and firings, but if a huge round of – even peaceful – protests broke out, I think they’d instigate shit and blame protestors, and use it to start the full crackdown.
Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)
@db11:
Perhaps, but it’s apples and oranges; the US is a presidential system with first past the post, and those nations you mention are parliamentary systems.
How long do you think it will be before those right-wing parties attain power? The US is merely a preview
ETA: Which I hope does not come to pass, ultimately, to be clear. Fair enough towards what you’re saying. You’re not wrong
CatRadio
It’s hard for me to describe how much this means to me, having watched Trump at the Helsinki meeting and saw Putin grinning, and knew what that meant. The bombs haven’t stopped falling, but the sheer courage of Zelensky on display is the best news I’ve had in a very long time.
Lenore
@Goku (aka Amerikan Baka): But way more vote in those countries. Our MAGA issue is really only about 30% of the actual public, similar to what it is in European countries. We just wave a winner-take-all system and a bunch of people too bored to vote.
Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)
@Steve LaBonne:
Fair enough. Point taken
Matt McIrvin
@Goku (aka Amerikan Baka): The parliamentary side of the semi-presidential Weimar government was where Hitler actually took power, so obviously such systems aren’t immune to this kind of thing.
Matt McIrvin
@db11: Like I keep saying, nobody who has ever talked to a Canadian at any length could be surprised at how Canada responded to Trump’s “51st state” dipshittery.
Jay
@Goku (aka Amerikan Baka):
Since Reunification, all German Governments have been coalitions.
AfD got 20% of the vote in the recent elections, when they usually get 24%. All other Parties have an eternal vow to never work with AfD.
AfD polls highest in areas that used to be East Germany. The Soviet’s never deNazified East Germany, they simply staffed their Bureaucracy with them.
In addition, when the Wall came down, the Laffer Curve went up. Instead of the former East Germany being rebuilt and modernized, it was left to struggle under Austerity. Because of low housing costs and decaying Soviet apartments, it became attractive for refugees and Turkish Guest Workers to move there, causing the old Nazi race purity to bubble violently to the surface.
Rather than being a symbol of the Nazi’s rise, the AfD is a symbol of the Nazi Cancer that never went away.
HopefullyNotcassandra
@zhena gogolia: I have a style? Thank you
Right now I am so angry I am forcing myself to take deep breaths.
After this pathetic display of Tony Soprano-ism, can you see any soldier not doubting any order they get from the pathetic putin loving duo?
Trump and Vance’s words applied reveal George Washington had no cards and should have walked willingly to the gallows. These two do not believe in anything for which the United States does stand.
sab
@Lenore: Even Liz Cheney thought Antifa and not Proud Boys did arson during BLM.
Jay
@Goku (aka Amerikan Baka):
No, it’s not.
Matt McIrvin
@Lenore: Well, the protests are happening, the only reason I didn’t go to the really big ones on President’s Day was that I was physically iced in. The ugly is coming in the summer, I think.
Lenore
@sab: Right. So if they do that again, martial law because We Made Them.
French Onion Soup
@WaterGirl:
I can’t help but think they want that at this point and I have a feeling what side we’d take. The right is pissed at Europe for being liberal and has been for some time. It’s not just about America. They want to shatter “The West” and bring back “Christendom” and they have global support through it.
Ksmiami
@Matt McIrvin: protests are dumb. Targeting the Presidents henchmen is smart
UncleEbeneezer
@zhena gogolia: THIS should’ve been the foreign policy issue that dominated the election. Popular support for Ukraine was something we should’ve taken advantage of. Turning the election into a referendum on Biden’s age and Gaza, was the greatest gift we could’ve ever delivered to Putin.
French Onion Soup
@Ksmiami:
The real maniacs are the techbros out in Silicon Valley like Theil who are in bed with religious maniacs like Vought. They are all sold on some sort of new techno, religious, monarchy solution not just here but in Europe. Vance has some skewed view of what stuff was like under the age of kings and popes as an ideal.
I’m not sure how you find a way to cause pain for those people. The politicians are not the ones calling the shots anymore. This is completely off the rails.
HopefullyNotcassandra
@Chris Johnson:
I think you give the pathetic putin loving duo too much credit.
Neither seems to have any understanding of waves. Neither appears to have any curiosity about how everything actually does work. They do appear steeped in television storyline arcs.
The script today was for President Selenskyy to be humiliated, sign the deal and exit shamed. Instead, he remained himself and Messieurs Trump and Vance had no notion how to respond. So, they revealed themselves to us as they used the United States, its honored dead and everything for which this country stands as a spittoon.
despicable display.
I think you are right that they want a civil war. They did not want this. They had no plan. JD Vance sounded like a hen and Donald Trump sounded tremulous. They expected a caged submissive wolf on his belly. That is not what they got.
Messieurs Trump, Vance and Rubio (who pissed on all of our presidents who came before) shamed themselves.
LAC
@Sasha: Yep! And those feelings are going nowhere soon. Let them nourish you.
Thanks Watergirl, for the posting and links for assistance
Ksmiami
@French Onion Soup: they’re not hard to find.
Ksmiami
Actually, if I’m Zelensky, I’d make a deal with the Chinese. The only nation that Putin is afraid of.
Ksmiami
@UncleEbeneezer: I knew the Gaza bs was Putin’s work. That so many fell for it, pathetic
HopefullyNotcassandra
@db11:
that is what the pathetic putin loving duo want you to think.
Those two spit on the United States. Does not mean we must join them.
We are still talking. We are still protesting. We are still supporting Ukrainians in their fight to determine their own form of government and make their own wonders and mistakes.
The pathetic putin loving duo want you to believe you are hopeless.
but you know what? You are not.
You are fortunate enough to be American and right now your country needs your brain, your wit and your energy so she can find her righteous, quirky, courageous, curious, beautiful, wonderful self again.
I mean it. We are not yet to even the end of the beginning.
HopefullyNotcassandra
@John S.: We are not anything those two are.
They are their own pathetic putin loving selves.
Jay
@UncleEbeneezer: While running on the Ukraine War and support for Ukraine could have been another issue to run on, there were problems with it as the Biden Administration doled out aid parsimoniously, with only 34% of promised aid through the years, making it to Ukraine before the election.
HopefullyNotcassandra
@WaterGirl: I really appreciate you WaterGirl.
nonetheless, I must disagree vehemently with you here
This is a sad, shameful day for Messieurs Trump, Vance and Rubio and probably, all republican federal electeds.
Unless we acquiesce to this torching of our American flag and her values, this is not a shame for the rest of us. It is a day that will live on in infamy.
John S.
@HopefullyNotcassandra:
How long do you really think the rest of the world is going to make that distinction? At this rate, the government of America and its citizens will become indistinguishable at some point in the minds of non-Americans.
HopefullyNotcassandra
@Quicksand:
Yeah. The president just took a whiz on our founding fathers, the winning side in our civil war and our greatest generation.
I am still raging about it. I need deep breaths.
French Onion Soup
@Ksmiami:
I’m aware. But if you look at protests at The White House why isn’t that going on at Bezos residence?
HopefullyNotcassandra
@Sasha: You are correct.
The strength of my rage truly caught me off guard. I keep thinking about those who came before me and the rage explodes all over again.
Glory b
@Lenore: Oh, absolutely.
This is why so many black people on social media are telling each other to stay far, far away from protests. Our presence could trigger backlash in the form of martial law.
That, and because many of us have reached the “We told you so” era, especially for those white people who insisted on voting for the Green party or staying home, long after it was clear what would happen.
HopefullyNotcassandra
@sab:
I think this crew would like to see liberty a taboo.
Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)
@John S.:
I can’t speak for others, but I make that distinction for some people living in Russia. There’s some who live there who don’t approve of what their government does, but are too afraid to speak out
HopefullyNotcassandra
@CatRadio:
I agree. President Zelenskyy held his own and that shook the pathetic putin-loving duo.
HopefullyNotcassandra
@Lenore:
I think many are too busy to vote and some states (TX) make it extra-special difficult.
zhena gogolia
Chris Murphy:
Bill Arnold
@French Onion Soup:
They’re soft, twitchy, paranoid, and out of touch with baseline reality, especially the religious ones.
Ramona
I apologized on Zelenskyy’s Twitter account. I’ve still kept my account though I logon rarely.
HopefullyNotcassandra
@UncleEbeneezer:
We are where we are.
We cannot put the milk back in the shattered glass
Mixing metaphors on a Friday afternoon.
We need to think our way forward and out of this mess. I know our system has its limits, but a pathetic putin-loving president who disses everything for which the 🇺🇸 U.S. 🇺🇸 stands will find himself the lamest of ducks soon!
Who knows before this is finished, the spineless gop electeds may find they are in fact vertebrates by impeaching and convicting his pathetic self. I pray for that often. That will take a miracle but this country gets those every so often.
Bill Arnold
@zhena gogolia:
I’ll note that Russia and China are neighbors.
Jay
@Goku (aka Amerikan Baka):
There are a tiny handful who speak out and resist.
On the other hand, you have Nalvaney’s Opposition in Exile, who are fine with the SMO and conquering Ukraine, they just don’t like Putin.
Then there are the few hundred of the various Russian Legions, who have taken up arms against ruZZia, but some are Nazi’s.
The Buryat’s and other ethnic minorities, whom in theory would form the various nations if ruZZia were broken up, form the majority of ruZZian fighters in the SMO, and the majority of the casualties.
Of the 148 million ruZZians, that’s what, 2,000 “dissenters”?
HopefullyNotcassandra
@John S.: Europe looks to be doing what it should do under these circumstances. Thank goodness!
In the meantime, we have our own duty to our ancestors and our good fortune to be Americans. Our duty, as I see it, is to inform our neighbors of the truth as best we can. I don’t think there are many Americans who agree with Messieurs Trump and Vance that we should have joined the side of Hitler and Hirohito.
Time will tell if I am wrong. Right now is the time to push hard for everything wonderful for which the United States of America does stand IMH American O.
zhena gogolia
@UncleEbeneezer: I know.
zhena gogolia
@Ksmiami: Yep.
Ramona
@db11: I was wondering that myself.
lowtechcyclist
@Butch:
It’s loading really really slowly. I’m guessing a lot of people are stopping by there this evening.
I can wait.
lowtechcyclist
@lowtechcyclist:
Got through, donated.
bg
I just donated to Razom for Ukraine and set up a recurring monthly donation. Thank you for the link.
This was obviously a setup, a performance preplanned and put on for Putin.
YY_Sima Qian
@Bill Arnold: Nuclear powers won’t be invading each other to seize territory.
However, I think the pressure will mount on the pro-Independence DPP government in Taipei to find some kind of modus vivendi w/ Beijing, or risk getting massacred in the municipal elections in 2026 & the next Presidential/Legislative Yuan elections in 2028.
The DPP has sought to secure Taiwan’s position by aligning with/ the U.S. in the latter’s Great Power Competition w/ the PRC. Since Trump’s election, Taipei has been hosting the [marginally saner] rejects from the Trump 45 term, such as Matt Pottinger & Mike Pompeo & Mike Pence, who have no influence w/ the current gang. This strategy is no longer tenable even in the short term.
pajaro
This is a really bad and sad day for the US, one of the worse I can remember. We’ve just joined Russia, and put ourselves in opposition not only to Ukraine, but to almost all of our European democratic allies. I’m not sure how NATO survives this. Whatever the free world was and is, we have just exited our role as leader of it. The damage we did to world peace today is just impossible to calculate.
It is utterly shameful that we allowed this monster to gain power, especially when we knew from his previous term what he might do on his revenge tour.
Ruckus
@bbleh:
The orange guy in my world is shitforbrains. Who has a younger “brother” who uses him as a puppet. I call him shitforbrains JR, who wants to be the landlord of the world – own everything and collect from everyone for the right to live. My understanding is that we used to call guys like that a complete and utter fucking jackass. Except that we didn’t use such nice language as that or my name for him.
Ruckus
@Melancholy Jaques:
They would have to have minds for anything to enter into.
They are followers, not thinkers. Thinkers would know that shitforbrains is far worse than useless. He is a self made moron. With power.
Lauryn11
@French Onion Soup:
@French Onion Soup: Blue check MAGA accounts on X were saying Pete Hegseth was just like U.S. Grant because he’s a hard-drinking “fighter.” Grant did drink, but between campaigns as his biographers have noted, and was high-functioning/never derelict. He quit after the war. It goes without saying, that compared to ”drinky” Pete he was 1000x the soldier and human being. It’s unbelievable the absurd historical comparisons these people make to excuse the bad behavior of anyone in Trumpworld.
Lauryn11
@French Onion Soup:
@French Onion Soup:
msb
Thanks for the link. Just made my first (but not last) contribution to Razom.