You love to see it:
This isn’t just about Trump, though: the head of steam Reform had built up seems to have peaked for now. Q4 political party donation figures are in:
Limited evidence of a surge in donations to Reform yet in the Q4 report. Raised a respectable £281k — but less than the Communist Party of Britain
— Matthew Holehouse (@matthewholehouse.bsky.social) March 6, 2025 at 9:40 AM
While Putin and Trump were less unpopular with Reform voters, they were never broadly popular. Party leader Nigel Farage, however, is a bought and sold stooge. He gave both Putin and Trump a tongue-bath in a widely mocked media appearance earlier this week, and also had close analysis of the angle of Musk and Bannon’s Nazi salutes:
Nigel Farage says that Elon Musk and Steve Bannon’s Nazi salutes were “not really Nazi salutes” because “they were out to the side.”
— Adam Bienkov (@adambienkov.bsky.social) March 3, 2025 at 9:45 AM
I have no doubt he’s an expert on what the right angle is.
A glimmer of pleasant news. God willing it becomes a trend, and that a majority of Reform voters become fed up with Nigel, too.
Baud
Where’s a protractor when you need one?
ArchTeryx
@Baud: Jammed up Melon Husk’s ass, where it belongs. Oh, is that too shrill?
Rose Judson
@ArchTeryx: I LOL’d.
Steve LaBonne
Well, his approval back home has also started on its downward trajectory. I wish I believed that could happen fast enough to halt his demolition of our country.
Omnes Omnibus
@ArchTeryx: While we are exhorted not kink shame here, I do think is perhaps unnecessary to share the details this early in the morning.
Belafon
@Baud: I think we’re going to need surveyor’s tools for this one. There are two angles involved.
oldster
“They were out to the side”?? That’s what they’re going with now?
Reminds me of this bit of comedy:
“The Hitler dog thing? That’s bullshit. Different spelling.”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rk3lcEeoEy8
ArchTeryx
@Omnes Omnibus: A wizard is never late, nor is he early. He arrives precisely when he intends to.
Never too early to take shots at these gits, as they’d say in the UK.
comrade scotts agenda of rage
The same country that voted for Brexit has Hair Furor at an 80/15 Unfav/Fav rating. Yunno, you grow.
I know, an inapt and unfair comparison. I’m simply lashing out because people there see this man for what he is better than those here that voted for him, or the ones that didn’t vote.
Of course the UK doesn’t have Faux “News” but I assume there’s some Murdoch channel that’s blasted into every space imaginable spewing the same propaganda.
Belafon
@comrade scotts agenda of rage: They also didn’t have a chance to vote for or against him. There’s a clarity in being detached.
Doc Sardonic
Don’t know if this is the right thread, but I live in FL6 and just had a visit from a nice volunteer from the Josh Weil campaign. He is definitely going for it and running a ground game. The flyer she gave me was identical to the mailer we just got a few days ago, nicely done, not overly wordy, with short bumper sticker length points.
Shakti
@Doc Sardonic: Good. I guess we’ll see if he gets any support from the party. The local party is useless.
The national party, unfortunately, is also useless.
https://bsky.app/profile/phillewis.bsky.social/post/3ljptoiun6c2h
oklahomo
I remember seeing an edited clip of Farage giving his Brexit victory speech, which abruptly cut to a scene from Threads wherein a group of survivors garbed in rags were desperately trying to keep warm over a small fire in a barn.
I thought of that quite a bit during Trump’s address to congress, except everyone in the clip would need to be wearing MAGA merch.
Elizabelle
@Doc Sardonic: That’s good to hear.
Come on, Josh Weil. Good to hear you have a good ground game.
Think I will request some postcards.
Skippy-san
@ArchTeryx: “Melon Husk” . That is awesome.
JoyceH
I really think Trump’s inexplicable fondness for Putin and hatred for Zelenskyy is going to lose him more supporters than even Musk and DOGE will. Anti-Russia and Anti-Putin are too ingrained, going back decades, and for three years all the news media, even on the right, has been comparing Zelenskyy to Churchill. On the other hand, also ingrained is the belief in Government Waste, and it’s going to take some time to get across that government does important stuff that everyone wants.
sentient ai from the future
@Belafon: particularly any surveying tools that use spiked tripod legs
sentient ai from the future
@oldster: by the same token, if we can’t find a proper Esso station, we will just have to make do with an Exxon or Shell or BP or what have you.
eclare
@Doc Sardonic:
Thanks for the news on the ground!
@heymistermix.com
Similar phenomenon in Canada. Any MAGA-curious pols are getting slaughtered in the polls. Liberals making a huge rebound from certain electoral death.
MazeDancer
Such good news about Trumpov crash.
Every “Rose” post makes me smile. As I think about someone safe in the UK. Yes, I am aware that, until recently, “safety” was not guaranteed there. But, still, better than here.
Friend told me last night her son was going to use her ex’s Irish heritage to get an Irish passport. We both applauded.
She is hoping that if he’s there, Ireland would let her in to “visit”.
RaflW
May have already been discussed as I guess the news dropped yesterday, but the layoffs and shuttering of 538 basically the day DJT’s aggregate approval rating flipped negative is really quite ‘remarkable’ timing.
As one wag noted, maybe Disney should have skipped the $1M bribe to the Trump Inaugural Slush Fund and put that towards maintaining 538.
eclare
Is it just me, or did anyone else find those graphs of approval vs disapproval hard to read?
ArchTeryx
@RaflW: 538 shut down? That’s news to me. When did this go down?
HopefullyNotcassandra
@Steve LaBonne: The thieves are inside NOAA
the place that saves lives for a measly $3 per person
there isn’t any waste, fraud or abuse there.
Steve LaBonne
@HopefullyNotcassandra: We are taking the Yeltsin / Putin route- break up the country and sell the pieces to oligarchs for pennies on the dollar. And supine Republicans only care about not getting blamed.
HopefullyNotcassandra
@Shakti: The parties are precisely what we make them. Volunteer and make your’s stronger.
The Democratic Party did not cause this mess, either. Let us give the Republican Party all of the credit for this attempt to destroy everything about us that does make us great.
HopefullyNotcassandra
@Steve LaBonne: and trying to exempt their donors from having to pay at the gate to simply survive
matt
@JoyceH: It’s ingrained because Putin is an evil murderous dictator.
p.a
I made the point in tRump 1 that the US has been unusually fortunate in the stupidity* of its home grown, election-eligible fascists. But this time, thanks to (chanelling “always”sore) the christianists, they have a plan and are following it.
*oh shit, forgot abt FedSoc and its long game court-fuck. Not stupid, just evil.
Also too, Putin’s success is based on liberal success opening US society, to the incomplete extent it has. The USSR tried for decades to use US minorities and workers to gain advantage in the cold war, but those people are actually loyal (almost no matter what they are subjected to.) Putin figured out, give Blacks, women, name any non-white non-christian population, a little justice, a little breathing room, and my fucking cohort will use the Constitution as toilet paper.
p.a
Comment in mod. Think I referenced a no no poster
RaflW
Leader Jeffries can just choke on a rotten, three dollar egg. This censure vote against Al Green is a god damned outrage. How the bloody hell was that not whipped as a required NO vote for the caucus.
Absolute insanity to be having a toxic internal fight when the enemy has 50 ripe targets for attack.
Jesus fuck I’m mad.
Old School
@ArchTeryx:
Yesterday.
Steve LaBonne
@RaflW: Tell me you don’t know anything about how the House works without telling me. It ain’t the House of Commons. Save your ire for the ten idiots.
RaflW
@Steve LaBonne: So Nancy Pelosi never had her Whip make it clear that the caucus stands together and no split vote would be tolerated?
Interesting spin on things.
Steve LaBonne
@RaflW: The Speaker or minority leader can only persuade, there is no three line whip. Right now we’re seeing Freedumb Caucus members even defying Trump on the CR.
Old School
I see the uncertainty has been postponed by a month again.
Trollhattan
@Baud: I use an amateur tractor. It’s a Kubota.
Steve LaBonne
@Old School: I’ll eat my hat if this stop and go game isn’t about insider stock market trades by Trump and his cronies. Warren Harding and his pals were models of probity compared to this lot.
Theflippsyd
@Old School: I say this as someone with little knowledge* about how the stock market works. But, someone (FSM knows who) needs to look at who is benefiting from Trump saying yes I’m doing the tariff; no I’m not doing the tariff. I bet there are lots of someones making a fortune with the upheaval in the stock market. While those of us with our 401ks are losing money left and right.
The little I know comes from Trading Places, Inside Job and The Big Short
Edited for clarity
kindness
Rose… If you could somehow swing King Charles to cut a video telling Trump to go fuck himself, you could own the internet.
Geminid .
@Steve LaBonne: Parties don’t whip every vote in the House of Commons either.
I think Jeffries, Clark and Aguilar are saving their strong-arming for votes on the Budget and Debt Ceiling bills. Those will have actual consequences.
I was interested to see Marcy Kaptur cast one of the ten Democratic censure votes. Kaptur’s a true-blue Democrat if there ever was one. She’s also Kay’s Congresswoman, and Kay thinks very highly of Kaptur. She might have something to say about this over on Mistermix’s blog.
Trollhattan
@kindness:
“One encourages purportedly President Trump to cease existence as a result of frenzied onanism.”
Donny: [blink-blink]
Kelly
Trump’s entire program is action based on gut feelings but he has irritable bowel syndrome
JoyceH
@matt: But the great thing is that MAGA knows that Putin is an evil murderous dictator. Because Fox let them know that. For decades pre-Trump, there was no reason not to. It wasn’t until Trump came along that the right started to try selling “Hey, Putin is actually kind of neat.” Their audience ain’t buying it.
Tony Jay
@kindness:
That’s the best you’re likely to get.
Steve LaBonne
@Geminid .: I was pretty shocked to see her name on what was mostly a list of the usual suspects.
WereBear
bus about 40 minutes ago in the house chamber after a vote to censure Representative Green, all I know, just setting everyone on the alert..
WereBear
@Geminid .: Ten? Relieved.
JoyceH
Hey, Brits on thread, question. I sometimes see videos from a guy called Josh From England. Not sure if he lives in the US or just visits a lot, but he’s always providing commentary about the differences between the US and the UK. And recently he said something that really surprised me. He said that one of the things he loves about America is that in America if you can’t finish your restaurant meal, they’ll pack the leftovers up for you to take home if you ask them to. And he said they DON’T do that in the UK. So – they don’t?! Leftovers are just tossed out? I’ll often order a meal that I know is too much for one meal, intending to get a snack or a whole other meal out of it later.
Timill
@JoyceH: Not having been back to the UK since I left in 2008: I think that meal portion sizes are more reasonable in the UK, so there’s rarely enough leftovers to be worth taking home.
Matt McIrvin
@JoyceH: Putin was lobbying the Christianist conservatives during the Obama years and got support from a lot of them then by positioning himself as the Great White Hope. “We need someone like Putin! He’s a STRONG leader who LOVES HIS COUNTRY.”
kindness
@Tony Jay: That would work for me.
Matt McIrvin
@Timill: Agreed. Not just in the UK but in most of Europe (and indeed in most places where I have eaten outside the US), restaurant portion sizes are usually an amount that you’d reasonably eat in one sitting, so leftovers worth taking home are rare.
Baud
@Kelly:
Heh.
Matt McIrvin
@JoyceH:
No, it predated Trump–I remember it starting to be a thing under Obama. Maybe actually starting when George W. Bush looked into Putin’s eyes and detected that he had a good soul.
Matt McIrvin
@WereBear: Loomis is on the case about how it proves Democrats suck! (a few of them voted for it)
Baud
@Matt McIrvin:
Putin on horseback was during Bush, I think.
Steve LaBonne
@Matt McIrvin: I guess today is a day that ends in “y”.
Matt McIrvin
@Baud: There was also still a fair bit of residual post-Cold-War goodwill toward Russia that kind of ignored that Putin was an autocrat.
Shakti
@HopefullyNotcassandra
I am the definition of a reliable voter and I’ve given them plenty of free labor.
JoyceH
@Timill: That’s true, US portions tend to be enormous. I visited the UK two years ago (and going back this fall – yaaay!), and there I could clean my plate and not want more. US portions would make you feel really uncomfortable if you finished it all, and I’m a large portions kinda gal. But I rather like the eat-in/carry-out combo thing we’ve got going.
tam1MI
She’s too busy shitting on Joe Biden to do that. And the question was put to her directly in the comments.
Elizabelle
@Tony Jay:
I can see it. Good to see you back.
Anonymous At Work
Communist Party of UK took in more than Reform UK because the ruble: pound exchange rate collapsed.
Geminid .
@Steve LaBonne: What struck me about that list is that it was not the “usual suspects.” Blue Dogs Jim Costa and Marie Gluesenkamp Perez voted to censure, but Jared Golden and the other 7 Blue Dogs voted Nay. That includes Henry Cuellar and Josh Gottheimer, who might be the most usual suspects of all.
Tom Suozzi, Marcy Kaptur, and Laura Gillen voted to censure, and they along with Gluesenkamp Perez are on the DCCC’s Frontline list of endangered Democrats. But 22 other “Frontliners” voted not to censure.
I think Ed Case, Ami Bera, Jim Himes, Jared Moskowitz and Chrissy Houlahan have fairly safe seats. Maybe they just thought Rep. Green was asking to be thrown out and Johnson gave Green what he asked for.
I guess I’d look at the video if I thought this affair was very important. I thought the 2023 censure of Ihlan Omar was important and I was glad when Democrats backed Omar without exception. This one doesn’t seem as consequential.
Princess
@Old School: Trump still repeating the lie that the tariffs are paid for by Mexico and Canada rather than the importing Americans.
catclub
@JoyceH:
Me too, but I seriously doubt it. No evidence in impeachment #1, or the entire campaign when he told Johnson to block funding for Ukraine. Musk is more likely to gore their ox than any concern about Ukraine.
catclub
@JoyceH: Yeah, I am sure that the entire continent and great Britain have never heard of carry out.
catclub
Not my experience in Brazilian restaurants serving meat.
Betty
@RaflW: That is seriously bad. Not impressed with his leadership. Too laissez-faire.
JoyceH
@catclub: Oh, they have take-out, but that’s the whole meal, not split like we tend to do. (BTW, I wonder if anyone under 40 still remembers what those leftovers packages used to be called. Remember “doggy bags”? The excuse used to be the diner wanted to take the leftovers home to their dog. No one even pretends anymore.)
JanieM
@JoyceH: I had a restaurant in England (York, to be precise) decline to pack up the food I didn’t finish. They had, in fact, no containers to pack it in, and they were kind of taken aback that I even asked for such a thing.
Matt McIrvin
@RaflW: I noticed it but it was buried down at the bottom of a thread.
Interestingly(?), Nate Silver was talking about it and mentioned that he’s about to come back on with a new poll aggregate of his own.
TBone
@Old School: The Tiedrich treatment on tariffs amd more.
https://www.jefftiedrich.com/p/donnys-tariffs-are-already-a-fucktacular
As usual, he cuts right to the chase but adds in addional information. I learned something new today.
comrade scotts agenda of rage
@TBone:
The best part of that piece was the WH reporter committing “a journalism” and pushing back hard on the “shitloads of fentanyl coming into the country” crap.
JoyceH
@JanieM: I was wondering if maybe I should take some baggies for the purpose. Not for lunch since we’ll be getting back on a tour bus and probably won’t want to smell my leftover fish and chips or whatever- but maybe for dinner?
TBone
@comrade scotts agenda of rage: also too, THIS!
JanieM
@JoyceH: The meal I hadn’t finished was more of a casserole — too gloppy for baggies. But if you’re planning it ahead and ordering accordingly, I don’t know why baggies wouldn’t work.
TBone
@Trollhattan: nominated!
WTFGhost
I’m not sure this is open but, I’m sure I’m not the only person to see mistermix’s post and wonder about the mash.
To go with the bangers, you see.
AI will be really cool when it can translate British to English (American style, I mean).
TBone
@Theflippsyd: you haven’t seen The Wolf of Wall Street yet?
Or this?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wall_Street_(1987_film)
Get some popcorn and Pepto Bismol and have at it!
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wolf_of_Wall_Street_(2013_film)
The new vocabulary I learned in the morning thread be damned.
JoyceH
@JanieM: I tended to finish everything last time but this time I’m doing Zepbound so my portions are smaller. And if I do overeat because the stuff is so delicious, I get really really uncomfortable.
TBone
@Tony Jay: so soothing.
TBone
@TBone: mood music 🎶 for the Overture
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HNcJGWQsz1Q
Geminid .
Ukraine’s President Zelensky will travel to Saudi Arabia Monday. Ankara-based Clash Report:
Clash Report also posted a picture of 4 Chinese diplomats across a table from 7 Ukrainian officials, with the story:
In Syria news, Clash Report said there was heavy fighting between Syrian government forces and Assad regime “dead-enders” in coastal Latakia, and unspecified groups in southen Deraa Governate, with 30 members of the government security forces killed. That sounds pretty serious.
Steve LaBonne
@TBone: The lesson from this is that their ability to infiltrate other agencies has depended on the willing collaboration of quislings in those agencies. I have seen reports that they were busy identifying such pieces of shit between the election and the Inauguration.
BarcaChicago
@JoyceH: FWIW, I lived in Spain for 10 years and can attest that Europeans do not take food home from restaurants. Ever. They also have much smaller portions, so probably a correlation there… I’m a light eater and would occasionally cause an uproar trying to find a way to take my leftovers with me – also causing embarrassment to my Spanish ex :-)
JoyceH
@BarcaChicago: well, if I did go the baggy route, I’d try to do it as subtly as possible. I’ve had a lot of practice seeing how many cheesy biscuits I could slip into my purse at Red Lobster.
BarcaChicago
@JoyceH: You have your compatriots’ support – bring it on home! Lol I also never changed to European cutlery use – I was just too damn old to learn to eat with my left hand. The experience made me aware of how American I am, for good and bad. It also curbed any belief that parliamentary systems are the solution to everything….
Gloria DryGarden
@Omnes Omnibus: made me laugh out loud! Thanks!
Gloria DryGarden
whoever wrote this piece, this is high art
Timill
@JoyceH: Carry Ziplocs with you? Less messy that way…
evodevo
@Gloria DryGarden: It’s our own wordsmith Tony Jay – evidently you haven’t seen any of his commentary before. they are a joy to read