This happened over the weekend:
A kidney transplant specialist and professor at Brown University’s medical school has been deported from the United States, even though she had a valid visa and a court order temporarily blocking her expulsion, according to her lawyer and court papers.
Dr. Rasha Alawieh, 34, is a Lebanese citizen who had traveled to her home country last month to visit relatives. She was detained on Thursday when she returned from that trip to the United States, according to a court complaint filed by her cousin Yara Chehab.
Judge Leo T. Sorokin of the Federal District Court in Massachusetts ordered the government on Friday evening to provide the court with 48 hours’ notice before deporting Dr. Alawieh. But she was put on a flight to Paris, presumably on her way to Lebanon.
In a second order filed Sunday morning, the judge said there was reason to believe U.S. Customs and Border Protection had willfully disobeyed his previous order to give the court notice before expelling the doctor. He said he had followed “common practice in this district as it has been for years,” and ordered the federal agency to respond to what he called “serious allegations.”
Deporting foreign doctors or scaring away foreign born doctors so they don’t even come here is as good a way to collapse the rural health care in this country and just getting rid of medicare and medicaid. Also, folks, it is time to start travelling with a burner phone.
J.
This is terrifying in so many ways. Well, now we know what the Trump administration thinks of court orders. Though did anyone really think his goons would comply?
WereBear
It’s amazing. They are actually getting what they voted for.
brendancalling
I’m basically forbidding my kid from even trying to visit me in the USA.
Heck, I’m worried they won’t let ME back in (or try to disappear me) if I visit Canada and want to come back.
Elizabelle
Insane. And why did they target her? Her visa status had changed from J1 to H1B, but that should not have been any issue.
I hope the Providence news stations run stories all week about the lifesaving work she did with kidney transplants.
Old School
@Elizabelle:
Thought crimes.
bbleh
Yeah I think of the medical systems in WV, including but not limited to WVUMed, which imo deserve a lot of the credit for public health results that are somewhat surprising given WV’s average age and income levels (eg, recently and notably, early COVID and measles vaccination rates), and … an awful lot of those docs are not originally from the US. Start scaring them away to California or NY, or out of the US entirely, and who’s gonna take their place?
Elizabelle
@ Old School. Ah. I see what John meant about carrying a burner phone. Was not clear from the Vichy NY Times story.
Dorothy A. Winsor
Upping from previous thread since it fits here:
Question for the legal experts among us. If a judge finds Trump or his deportation leader guilty of contempt for ignoring the court order, what happens then?
Kelly
Chuck Schumer’s latest statement:
Jay
@bbleh:
It’s out of the US entirely. If you are a Visa holder, a Green Card holder or even a US Citizen, you are not safe from arbitrary punishment and deportation anywhere in the US.
The good news is, the US is fixing Canada’s Health Care worker shortage, Britain’s as well.
Old Man Shadow
@Dorothy A. Winsor: Not a legal expert, but what I read indicated the court could find the person responsible for violating the order in contempt and fine them or imprison them.
Doing so, however, requires the US Marshal Service to do the arresting and imprisoning part.
The US Marshals are Executive branch employees, so Trump could simply order them to ignore any contempt rulings directed at his administration and then…
Well, if we had a functional government, Congress would impeach, but fuck all hahahaha… that ain’t ever happening.
So Trump would get away with it. Which I’m sure he knows.
Jay
@Dorothy A. Winsor:
Nothing,
Elizabelle
So. Foreign born doctors and researchers and executives will now have to think twice about visiting family or attending international conferences and conventions. Or even doing relief work abroad because. Cannot be assured readmittance to the US of MAGA.
Jebus.
Old Man Shadow
I’m sure Susan Collins and Chuck Schumer are very concerned about this latest development.
russell
Based on the recent story of the guy in OR that they decided was dead and so cut off his SS, Medicare, and clawed back several thousand $$ from his bank account, I’ve also started building enough of a cash reserve to carry my wife and I through a month or two of living expenses.
And by “cash” I mean green money in my desk drawer, not in the bank. My wife doesn’t like it because it’s not earning any interest, but I don’t care.
WaterGirl
Cole, can you say more about what you mean by this?
Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)
@Old Man Shadow:
Why can’t the Courts deputize others to arrest these people?
HopefullyNotcassandra
@bbleh: No one. The gop has become death.
Kelly
Talking Heads, “Life in Wartime”
Suzanne
LMAO rural healthcare is already so fucked. I can’t believe they want to make it worse, but they do. If I lived in a rural area, I might wonder why the FFOTUS Administration was trying to kill me.
H.E.Wolf
@russell:
This is deliberate disinformation, right? Desk drawers are the first place a burglar would look. Inside the freezer is next.
Keep your cash roll in your stocking or in your bra, like a dame in a mid-20th-century detective novel.
(Men, too. Just means you’re a Pantomime Dame instead of a Gumshoe Dame.)
Scout211
@WaterGirl: I assume he means a pay-as-you-go stripped down phone not connected to any of your accounts, apps or the cloud so if they seize it, it tells them nothing about you.
u
@russell: And, of course, if a lot of people start hoarding cash then the rate of burglaries will increase accordingly.
Just Some Fuckhead
Also, folks, it is time to start travelling with a burner phone.
You’re just one bad week away from cooking meth in a trailer down by the river, aren’t ya John?
russell
To be honest, I’m less worried about burglars than I am about this administration. No joke.
But in any case, there’s always the old school option of burying it out in the backyard in a jelly jar! :)
Jay
@russell:
Under no circumstances travel with any cash of any significant amount. If you are stopped by the Popo, they will
impoundsteal it.u
@H.E.Wolf: Yeah, the freezer. When I was a kid in the sixties, my father would cash his whole paycheck every week and my mother would stash the money in the freezer — right next to the ice cream. My mother probably protected it with an Italian curse, because it was never stolen!
Another Scott
@Dorothy A. Winsor: @Old Man Shadow:
IANAL either.
We know that 47 wants people to sacrifice themselves for him. And we know that he will keep pushing to remove all constraints on his actions.
Things will probably continue until either: 1) people on his team stop saying “yes” to the stupid, immoral, and illegal stuff that he wants them to do because they value their careers and don’t want to just be cannon fodder for Melon; 2) there are actual constraints and consequences to him personally.
When will those things happen? Dunno. Nobody can predict the future.
I think both are important. I expect judges to start imposing punishments (and even if they are not enforced, I assume they can be used as evidence to get those lawyers disbarred). I also expect GQPers to start losing elections unless they start pushing back, protecting their institutional positions under the United States, etc. That may take substantially longer though…
FWIW.
Best wishes,
Scott.
Elizabelle
@WaterGirl: The NY Post has a comprehensive story on this one. Murdoch paper, but it is very fairly reported.
u
@Jay: Yes. The police will “temporarily” hold on to your cash “in case it’s needed as evidence”.
ArchTeryx
@Just Some Fuckhead: He’s ex-military. If he starts cooking up homemade stuff in his house, it ain’t gonna be meth.
Jackie
I don’t blame him one bit:
“Give me your weak, tired and poor” hasn’t been true of republicans since at least Reagan.
Dorothy A. Winsor
I’m reading two series right now. Dungeon Crawler Carl (a cross between D&D and Hunger Games) and Red Rising. Despite both being science fiction, I thought DCC would be light relief compared to RR. But their themes overlap—powerful people oppressing the less powerful. Casual cruelty. Power corruption. The struggle to be good despite an impossible situation. Critique of power. My Russian Zumba teacher says she grew up with sf in Russia because it was the only way to criticize the govt. These series are phenomenally popular. They apparently resonate with a lot of people in our era too.
Rose Judson
Don’t worry, Brown is springing into action!
Fucking insane.
u
@Elizabelle: What this current bullshit reveals is how fragile a foundation our “economy” and “society” rest upon. I can use a credit card to buy food at the supermarket because I can be reasonably sure that the food will not poison me and because the supermarket can be reasonably sure that my credit card is real. By the time Elon is finished, neither assumption will be true anymore.
hrprogressive
Y’all need to be ready to do more than just use a burner phone, because we’re a lot closer to law and order breaking down than any of you really want to admit.
Deputinize America
I genuinely enjoy playing with the predictive aspects of Deep Seek. I feed it parameters and it creates some interesting alternatives.
Jay
@u:
You’ll always have crypto,……… or not.
Elizabelle
More from the NY Post story:
Deported Brown University doctor Rasha Alawieh attended funeral for slain Hezbollah chief, had ‘sympathetic photos’ of terror leaders on her phone: DOJ
I wonder if it can be proven the CPB, or at least Dr. Alawieh in the company of CPB escorts, learned of Judge Sorokin’s order before the 7:43 pm gate departure.
Cell phone records in that case could be a help.
Geminid
@H.E.Wolf:
“Hold your cash roll close, and your long hatpin closer.”
WTFGhost
I think this is totally cool, because Trump wants the Panama Canal back:
https://crooksandliars.com/2025/03/french-lawmaker-give-back-statue-liberty
I mean, it’s totally cool for the *French*, don’t get me wrong, it’s a shame and a disgrace to America. The French Fonz gave a rare double thumbs up to the Statue going to a nation that cares about liberty throughout the world, like in Ukraine, while Trump the
Chickenshitpeacemaker sucks up to Putin’s, uh, pooty poot, as George W used to call it.BellaPea
When my stepfather was hospitalized in Jackson, Tennessee right before he died, both of his doctors were of foreign descent (I think one of them was Indian or Pakastani). They took good care of him, and were very sympathetic to my mother. Jackson isn’t exactly rural, but the surrounding counties are very much so and a lot of those folks end up at that hospital. It is quite crowded and, I suspect, underfunded as well. More dumb moves from the idiot and his minions.
Hoodie
@bbleh: Marcus Welby. Musk has reanimated his corpse using a Neuralink implant. The flesh is a bit loose but he has a great bedside manner. There’s also the fact that he’s an actor who plays a doctor on TV, kind of like how Trump pretends to be businessman instead of a two-bit hustler.
Elizabelle
@Dorothy A. Winsor:
Fascinating.
HopefullyNotcassandra
@Old Man Shadow: maybe?
the Marshall in a judge’s court is a federal employee who is under the judge’s authority. So, the Marshall might well follow the judge’s order to jail a person and then possibly be fired by the executive. A contempt imprisonment can take place inside the court’s holding cell.
A judge can sanction attorneys financially and refer them for review by their bar. That monetary sanction would have to be paid to stay in good standing before their bar. Their bar would then review the sanction (each state and the district have varying rules here) and decide if further discipline is warranted. Further discipline can be private or public reprimand, suspension or disbarment. John Easton got disbarred, as did Rudy Giuliani. A federal judge can also refer an attorney to be kicked out of the federal district.
There is nothing any president can do to thwart that directly, although this president could always threaten funding withdrawals. Judges have a lot of power. DOJ attorneys are likely to discover that to their dismay.
It is likely the lawyers involved will declare not my fault!, I didn’t know!, the Homeland Security Chief ate my homework! and we shall see what these judges do in response.
i saw a male attorney imprisoned once for contempt for refusing to take out his earring. So far as I know, he sat in that court holding cell until he took out that earring.
comrade scotts agenda of rage
Anybody who has spent any amount of time in a rural area (like me) will know that my red, rurl MAGAt neighbors won’t make any connections between what this will do to what passes for rurl healthcare and its effects on them.
If any are raised, they’ll be conveniently explained away thru a variety of the usual right-wing explanations.
pat
Jill Stein’s withdrawal from the 2016 election had set the stage for a brighter, more just America.
Ah, finally we know who to blame.
Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)
@comrade scotts agenda of rage:
I’d ask them why Trump and the GOP, who are in power and therefore responsible, aren’t doing anything to fix the problem. If they make excuses, then I’d call them out and tell them directly that they are making BS excuses.
lowtechcyclist
@Old School:
Sounds like Trump needs to be deported for being Putin’s tool. I don’t know how many deaths Hezbollah is responsible for, but I’m sure Putin has them beat by an order of magnitude.
Deputinize America
@russell:
We typically keep about 8-10K in a safe at home, along with some of the wife’s jewelry and a fully charged .40 cal pistol magazine for a nearby cable-locked Sig Sauer.
I also keep cash in a box at the office. We can handle short-term wierd.
Deputinize America
@HopefullyNotcassandra:
It’s “Marshal”.
Jay
@Goku (aka Amerikan Baka):
They don’t care that they are making BS excuses.
Gin & Tonic
I have a separate phone for use in Ukraine, that stays with a trusted friend there. It does not come to the US with me. Ive done this for years, just on general principles.
Old School
@Deputinize America:
While I’d love to live in that alternate timeline, this part seems rather unlikely:
H.E.Wolf
omg, I recently read a John D. MacDonald novel with this exact scenario. Since it was MacDonald, there was horrifying violence to go with the jelly jars. Ugh.
You’re probably OK, so long as you don’t tell your buddy in the Korean War POW camp all about it while a nearby sociopath is listening in….
zhena gogolia
YES THIS IS ALL CHARLES SCHUMER’S FAULT, HISTORY’S GREATEST MONSTER
H.E.Wolf
@u:
Porca miseria, this is brilliant. Good job by your mom!
WTFGhost
@Just Some Fuckhead: no, then the fish downriver start tasting like cat piss, and Andy Taylor will call in to the state po-lice and you’ll be caught. Also, don’t buy all your supplies in one place! Don’t buy the big boxes of matches, you want the red phosphorus in the strikers! (watches would-be cook running away)
zhena gogolia
@Gin & Tonic: Yes, unfortunately, we’re all going to get lessons in life that I was hoping we wouldn’t have to learn.
zhena gogolia
@Just Some Fuckhead: Good to see you!
Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)
@Deputinize America:
I’ve been considering purchasing a firearm for home defense and target shooting. I have an indoor range nearby that offers instruction so that’s covered.
What I’m concerned about is avoiding lead contamination, from the bullets, the gun range, etc. I’m aware lead-free bullets exist, specifically from Federal, but they’re fairly expensive, have quite a kick (70 grain), and are only target bullets. What would you recommend for ammunition (brand, grain amount, casing type, etc), both for target practice and “real” bullets? I’ve seen Federal HST suggested. Would wearing a specific outfit/shoes at the range and then changing into other clothes/shoes afterwards to prevent contaminating my car and home be a good idea? I’m also aware there’s special de-leading soap at ranges as well as D-Lead wipes that can be used on the gun itself, other objects. Should I wash the clothes worn at the gun range separately from other clothes in a washing machine? Any special detergents, etc?
Gvg
@Goku (aka Amerikan Baka):
they can as I understand it, but I am starting to wonder who will pay the deputized and traveling and expense money. The courts could end up with their own marshals but that would cost money, and right now the majority in Congress is complicit with Trump. Money comes from Congress. I think we may be crowd funding the courts soon.
Jay
https://nitter.poast.org/wartranslated/status/1901677313080631592#m
lowtechcyclist
@Jay: The only surprise is that Trump hadn’t already done this. I guess it takes awhile for his handlers to get to all these details.
WTFGhost
@Jay: It’s safer if you can provide receipts and witnesses, but, even then, you’re leaning on privilege, and sometimes privilege vanishes unexpectedly.
@u: Did your mother ever use words like “connected” or “consigliere”? Because it might not have been a supernatural curse, is all I’m saying.
Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)
@Jay:
@lowtechcyclist:
It’s just such a massive betrayal by the US. There’s just no excuse and it makes it crystal clear that Trump does not give one fuck about Russian war crimes, does not want peace on Ukraine’s terms, and won’t lift a finger to defend other allies in the region
H.E.Wolf
Hee hee.
The long hatpins are more often found in Sherlock Holmes pastiches. Mid-20th-century gumshoe dames are more likely to carry a tiny derringer.
Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)
@Gvg:
In retrospect, it was probably always a bad idea to leave law enforcement completely up to the Executive. Now we’re seeing the results for ourselves
Susan of Texas
“Data journalists at NBC found that out of the 535,545 health care practitioners and technicians in Texas, 116,495 are from another country.
Experts say our nation has become dependent on foreign-born doctors, filling a gap in a current doctor shortage.”
https://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/foreign-born-doctors-have-a-big-impact-on-us-healthcare/269861/
Houston, Texas has the largest medical complex in the world.
“The Texas Medical Center employs over 106,000 people, hosts 10 million patient encounters annually, and has a gross domestic product of US$25 billion.”
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_Medical_Center
It’s all fun and games until you destroy your economy. People are foolishly ideological until you cost them money. It’s hard to get stupid, greedy people to listen to your political arguments when their leaders promise them fat paychecks and tax cuts. Fight money with money.
Another Scott
@Goku (aka Amerikan Baka):
Buy a shotgun (1:32)
HTH!
Best wishes,
Scott.
Jay
@Goku (aka Amerikan Baka):
And of course, the US got sweet F all from Pootie Poot in exchange for this gift.
Y’all just giving it away for free at this point.
Gin & Tonic
@zhena gogolia: When my son went to MGIMO, not only did he have a burner phone, he had a burner laptop, which I forensically wiped as soon as he returned.
David Collier-Brown
@Old Man Shadow:
“All right, marshal, you’re under arrest for the direct disobedience of a lawful order. Who is the next person in the chain of command? You? Please take this gentleman into close custody. No? OK, you’re under arrest. Next?”
Betty Cracker
We’re living through an autocratic assault on our republic, that much is clear. But sometimes the specific actions the autocrats take are confusing. For me, the simplest way to interpret those actions is to assume a scam and work backward from there.
That method applies here. Trump lied about Biden letting the country be overrun by criminal gangs, and it turns out tracking down actual criminals is hard. Remember the much heralded early ICE raids? That was mostly a bust. ICE stopped reporting arrest totals last month because they were smaller than Biden’s totals in 2024.
So what they’re doing now is scooping up anyone on any pretext they can.
comrade scotts agenda of rage
@Jay:
That. Thank you for saying that.
Anybody who comes back with the “Tell them it’s BS”, get back to me after trying that approach on 20 or so of your red, rurl MAGAt neighbors and see how successful you are.
I learned this over 22 years of living in that environment.
HopefullyNotcassandra
@u: Actually, thanks to our war on drugs, police can impound your car too and claim it was involved in drug trafficking. There is nothing new about this. You then have to sue to try and get it back. Your legal fees come out of your pocket. Several rural police officers in Texas went to jail for doing this for vacation money, but it was the Texas Rangers doing the policing.
Always know your rights. Do not leave the highway if you do not know the rural burg. Plan out ahead of time where you will stop for gas, food, lodging or a recharge. Check the places on-line to see if they are speed or impoundment traps. Do not argue with the police. Do not volunteer information either. Make certain an officer knows you will be missed, though.
In my anecdotal experience, most police officers are decent individuals, doing their duty honorably. Nonetheless, as anal as it sounds, it is better to beware than everlastingly sorry.
Elizabelle
@Another Scott: Great video.
Is that real?
Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)
@comrade scotts agenda of rage:
I live in a more purplish area than you, but I still try that strategy. You can implant seeds of doubt in at least some of their minds
New Deal democrat
@Betty Cracker: Unfortunately the Judge’s TRO in the deportation case had a loophole – namely, that it did not bar deportations lawful for reasons other than the Alien Enemies Act – that the T—-p Administration is now exploiting:
“ a court [could not] lawfully restrict the President’s inherent Article Il authority to work with a foreign nation to transfer terrorists and criminals who are already outside the United States. Consequently, even if one could broadly and improperly construe the Court’s written minute order as restricting the government from “turn[ing] over … to foreign governments” alien enemies who were already abroad (Dkt. 21, at 2), that still was limited by its terms to actions taken “pursuant to the Proclamation.” Once the terrorists had been removed from the United States, any decision by the President to take such actions pursuant to independent constitutional authority is therefore not a violation of the Court’s orders.”
This idea of “inherent Article II authority,” I.e., the Founders somehow neglected to enumerate it, just as they somehow neglected to enumerate the President’s broad immunity from criminal prosecution, has cropped up in several other legal filings in the past week or so. So the DoJ can claim that the Judge’s order did not apply to this basis, which was not in the “Proclamation.”
It’s a way ultimately to allow SCOTUS to rule that the Administration were naughty boys, but we’ll let you go now, just don’t do it again.
HopefullyNotcassandra
@u: Mr. Musk is truly screwing with the fundamental fragile systems that hold civilization together. I cannot tell if he is a self-righteous ignoramus or a deliberate arsonist. Apparently, he is clueless about waves swamping indiscriminately once those waves are set in motion.
Deputinize America
@Goku (aka Amerikan Baka):
I’ve never been picky. I do have a dedicated bag that I never use for anything else so that I don’t get jammed by a swab test at the airport.
Another Scott
@Susan of Texas: When my in-laws were living with us here in NoVA and we needed home health aids, they were all women, and almost all of them were foreign born. Nigeria, Ethiopia, etc., etc.
It’s not just doctors and nurses, and it’s not just rural areas.
Grr…
Best wishes,
Scott.
Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)
@New Deal democrat:
Couldn’t the judge amend the TRO to block that?
HopefullyNotcassandra
@Deputinize America: yes. Sorry
I do that with John Marshall backwards too.
Another Scott
@Elizabelle: Artistic license in the presentation.
But, yes those are his words (0:52)
Best wishes,
Scott.
WTFGhost
@Betty Cracker: Yes… but, using extraordinary powers to do so, because this is a MUSCULAR PRESIDENCY which means Trump huffs Mr. Muscle, a cleaning product, betwe… wait, we do *not* have confirmation on the huffing, sorry, a MUSCULAR Presidency overseen by a pathetic blowhard whose belly sags too much to roll when he laughs, after far to many bowls full of jelly.
Right, so, by using a law that only a moron would think would apply outside of war or incursion… muscular presidency… why do modern journalists quote these em effers, rather than just blah-blah the talking points, as they deserve?
JoyceH
@Goku (aka Amerikan Baka): I’ve actually been pondering a sling shot. They make some pretty high tech ones now that can knock a person down. To me the advantage would be that it would take a certain amount of training for it to have any value and so couldn’t be taken away and turned against the owner.
David Collier-Brown
Hmmn, I seem to be feeling grumpy these days (:-))
New Deal democrat
@Goku (aka Amerikan Baka): He could do that after a hearing on the issue, but obviously it’s too late for the people already in Salvadoran jails.
Elizabelle
@JoyceH: If a can of cling peaches was good enough for Edith Bunker ….
Remember that episode?
Gin & Tonic
@Jay:
Collective blame for the actions of the Trump administration is really useful for fostering dialogue on this blog.
HopefullyNotcassandra
@lowtechcyclist: It is just the UFC dramatic arch that became necessary early upon discovery that Joe Biden had actually secured our border so there was no big drama to be found there. Nonetheless, all of the cons still try. How many troops do we have at our southern border now? That is some truly epic waste, fraud and abuse.
Jay
@comrade scotts agenda of rage:
Not enough people understand that Cons, ReThugs and MAGgot’s willingly live in a Dunning-Kruger Alt Reality.
In one of his tariFFS posts last week, Krugman came to the conclusion that DJTdiot’s Commerce Secretary:
A). was completely ignorant about the US Economy, all aspects of economics, trade and of course, tariFFS,
B). and was actually that stupid and dumb.
Elizabelle
@Another Scott: Thank you.
And it is a catchy tune.
Snarki, child of Loki
*elemental* lead (metal form) is not terribly toxic. Just don’t lick your hands after messing with it. It’s the *lead compounds* (tetraethyl lead, lead chloride) that are dangerous and should be avoided, because they easily get into your body chemistry.
For example, lead bricks: the major hazard is getting a finger pinched when you set one down. 2nd hazard is dropping one on a foot.
Dorothy A. Winsor
HopefullyNotcassandra
@Betty Cracker: I so think you are correct. This is all a bad performance to hide the hand in our wallets.
Dorothy A. Winsor
@Jay: Krugman unchained is awesome
Susan of Texas
@Betty Cracker:
And authoritarian leaders control the masses via scapegoating the vulnerable. Arbitrary detentions are red meat for the followers and a warning for the masses: step out of line and you will be next. It’s a scam alright, and a threat. People now wonder if they will be next, and if they can protect themselves. Many others will decide to never take any chances by going against authority.
CNN reported that public opinion of Democrats was very low and that people want to see Democrats fight back against Trump. Failure is far preferable to inaction or submission if we want people to support Democrats.
New Deal democrat
@Dorothy A. Winsor: The DoJ is now asking the DC Circuit to reassign the case. Per Charles Geidner:
“DOJ goes to the D.C. Circuit, essentially saying Chief Judge Boasberg acted improperly by … asking questions about whether they followed a court order.”
E.T.A.: The DoJ really, really does not want this hearing to proceed. Should put the Judge in a real good mood.
Elizabelle
@Betty Cracker:
I think you are right. And it is exhausting, and demoralizing, and meant to be so. Penetration at every level, and flooding the zone with shit.
Soprano2
@russell: That story was horrifying.
Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)
@Deputinize America:
Would you recommend dedicated range clothes and washing those separately from other clothing? A shower afterwards? Any special detergents? I hope I’m not overthinking this…
WaterGirl
@Just Some Fuckhead: Well, he’s in AZ at the moment, so that might make it more difficult.
Elizabelle
Meanwhile, British (Welsh) cartoonist R.E. “Becky” Burke remains locked up in a Tacoma, WA ICE facility.
She now has $$$ to fly back to the UK via a successful Go Fund Me (now closed), but no action on her release that we are aware of.
Comics site bleedingcool.com has an update today.
Jay
@Goku (aka Amerikan Baka):
You are overthinking it.
Jacketed ammo is safe.
Buy the cheapest rounds for training, buy the most lethal rounds for defense.
Lead at indoor ranges is pretty much only a danger for the Employees.
Proper ear and eye protection is more important.
WereBear
@H.E.Wolf: Yep. That was a good one.
Phylllis
@russell: I mostly joked on here a couple of months ago about burying cash in the backyard like my depression-era parents & grandparents. Much less of a joke these days. The thing is, my latest tinfoil hat notion is that they’ll make crypto the legal tender of the US & allow you to ‘buy’ it using your existing US monies at, say, 10 cents on the dollar.
But in any case, there’s always the old school option of burying it out in the backyard in a jelly jar! :)
Dang it, should have read a bit further down.
A woman from anywhere (formerly Mohagan)
@Deputinize America: this is just depressing
Ohio Mom
@Scout211: I would think a burner phone tells the authorities you have another phone somewhere full of juicy stuff.
The question becomes, how much follow-through can we expect them to exhibit?
mrmoshpotato
Congrats to the Trump trash on voting to kill themselves – again.
First with the COVID-19 “hoax.” Idiots.
And now with most definitely fucking over their local doctors’ offices and hospitals. Stupid, fucking racist idiots.
mrmoshpotato
@Ohio Mom: Juicy!
Ohio Mom
@Jay: Very good advice. That’s been stsndard operating procedure for a long time.
It’s usually something like low-income person traveling home to buy a car from his cousin and poof! There goes all the thousands of dollars he saved so carefully. If I remember correctly, they are usually arrested as well.
Ohio Mom
@u: My mother kept her cash stash in her underwear drawer. Maybe she was counting on the power of embarrassment to repel thieves.
This is back before ATMs were invented and the age of the credit card. You needed cash on hand for emergencies.
Geminid
@H.E.Wolf: The tough detective dames still might keep a hatpin for the mashers. Although I guess the meaner ones would dispense with the hatpin and just pull the derringer. The really mean ones might rig the derringer as a sleeve gun.
I read about the sleeve gun trick in Louis L’Amour’s Passin’ Through. Do you ever read Louis LaMour novel’s? He wrote a good one titled Echo Sackett that’s set in the 1830s. Young Echo has to venture from her Tennessee mountain home to Philadephia in order to recover an inheritance. Being wise to the world, she sets out with two “Doone” derringers in her handbag and a very long knife that she hangs down her back inside her fanciest dress.
Echo wrangles her inheritance in cash money from a shady Philadelphia lawyer, and then she heads for home by way of Pittsburgh and the rivers south. She manages to put her weapons to good use fighting off thieves all the way back to Tennessee. Ms. Sackett arrives home from her adventures with her inheritance and a handsome beau she’s collected along the way.
Steve in the ATL
@Elizabelle:
Throw in Ohio and Mississippi and that’s a solid list of states never to move to.
H.E.Wolf
@Geminid:
Haven’t yet had the pleasure. I’ll look that one up in particular!
Elizabelle
@Steve in the ATL: For sure.
One physician and cartoonist/artist/writer at a time, The Felon is going to really damage our country.
Fuck him and the imbeciles he rode in on.
H.E.Wolf
@WereBear:
My favorites are the ones with Meyer the economist helping McGee entrap bad guys.
In general, I read the scary/violent sections in MacDonald’s novels with one eye closed, or skip entirely if I’m re-reading. Weak sauce, that’s me!
Jay
@Ohio Mom:
Best option for a “burner phone” is either a dumb phone, or a “not so smart” phone.
Some people hate smart phones, they are not unusual.
When my old IPhone 6 died, for a short while, I had a Dashi. A Japanese Android clone, my friend Steve got, for free, for spending over $50 in a Tokyo Electronics Store. Camera was crap, so no photos, battery was crap, so no games, no web surfing, memory was crap so no big text history or lists of phone calls, phone directory was just the people I regularly called.
If somebody wanted to “search” that phone, good luck, the battery would not last long enough to find any deleted stuff, unless they kept it plugged in to charge, and all they would be able to find is stuff deleted in the last 24 hours. Plus, I would laugh my ass of if they asked me to unlock it. It had 0 security features, no passcode, no fingerprint, no facial recognition. It was either on, or off. All it could really do is make phone calls and text.
Ruckus
@bbleh:
I wonder how many doctors in the US are from out of the country. I’d bet more than a few.
I can see that in some parts of the world getting a medical education and license to practice might be even more difficult than here in the US. And it is difficult enough longish road here. One almost has to have some form of reasonable income or a damn good scholarship to do it here. Ask me how I know. And the answer is not what that sentence might imply. But I do know.
Satanley (aka weasel)
@brendancalling:
We sadly canceled a trip to Victoria BC for exactly this reason!
Jay
@Ruckus:
26% of Doctors in the US are not Americans.
UncleEbeneezer
Genocide Joe and Holocaust Harris are looking awfully good in hindsight…
Shout out to the Uncommitted assholes (and their cheerleaders), y’all helped make this happen.
Soprano2
@comrade scotts agenda of rage: They just deny it by saying “fake news”.
frosty
@Geminid: I’ve read all of Louis L’Amour, at least up thru the late 70s. My favorite was The Sackett Brand where every Sackett in the West drops whatever they’re doing to help out Tell Sackett, cornered under the Mogollon Rim.
I’ll have to dig through the box in the attic to see if I have Echo Sackett.
frosty
@H.E.Wolf: Pale Gray for Guilt was Meyer’s best.
Bill Arnold
@Goku (aka Amerikan Baka):
Poking briefly at this with google, the general feeling (even among people who get their lead levels tested) appears to be definitely hand washing, and consider wearing a respirator if the ventilation at the range is not obviously good. A respirator would be an N95 or an equivalent; there are nice ones that might look good to gun people available. (Search on “gvs p100” for examples
ETA you’re in the lead free generation, so good IMO to keep your body that way. Metallic lead isn’t bad, but i’d go as close to zero as possible if my body were in your age group or otherwise probably low-lead.
Noskilz
Tennessee’s rural healthcare was on the ropes even before all this started. This is going to get very, very grim as the Trump administration kicks the legs out from under medicare, cuts benefits, and drives off doctors.
I hate to think what it will be like in places even worse off than Tennesee.
H.E.Wolf
@frosty: Pale Gray for Guilt was Meyer’s best.
Mm-hm; and Darker Than Amber might be my choice for Meyer runner-up.
YY_Sima Qian
@Deputinize America: OT: Which version of DeepSeek are you using, the App offered by DeepSeek itself, or one of the versions hosted by other platforms?
I find the DeepSeek R1 model fascinating & quite “creative” myself, but we have to remember that these “thinking” LLMs are not at all intelligent. They are just repackaging their training data, sometimes in interesting or surprising ways. The model is not capable of truly analyzing & making judgments, or projecting forward, except in deterministic scenarios. What you are reading are liberal fantasies in R1‘s training data, now repackaged for your reading pleasure.
YY_Sima Qian
@New Deal democrat:
How sure are we that this SCOTUS will tell the Trump gang “don’t do it again”?
At the end of the day, neither the courts nor Congress command anybody w/ guns (or at least not nearly enough to matter).
Trivia Man
@Jay: T got election help – he gets personal riches and immunity and gives up nothing of HIS in return. ART OF THE DEAL!!
Or maybe the moral is THE ARISTOCRATS!!!
TerryC
@BellaPea: In my Appalachian home town most of the doctors are from overseas. I hear something about “those damned Ayrab doctors at the hospital” frequently when I speak with people there.