Things got ugly in deep red Wyoming when Rep. Harriet Hageman (R) showed up to shill for the sociopathic oligarch who is dismantling the federal government:
Wyoming Rep. Harriet Hageman was booed after defending DOGE at a town hall.
— NBC News (@nbcnews.com) March 20, 2025 at 1:45 PM
From NBC News:
Hundreds of people attended the town hall for their sole House member, jeering Hageman throughout her comments on issues including cuts to the federal government spearheaded by Elon Musk’s Department of Government Efficiency.
“It’s so bizarre to me how obsessed you are with federal government,” Hageman told attendees, prompting more outbursts from the crowd.
“You guys are going to have a heart attack if you don’t calm down,” she added. “I’m sorry, your hysteria is just really over the top.”
Maybe Hageman should be more “obsessed with the federal government” since she represents the people of Wyoming in it. Hageman won her seat with 71% of the vote in November.
Meanwhile, I think Rep. Swalwell (D-CA) is correct here:
People keep asking me if Dems are divided between left and center of party. Nope. We are divided over old and new ways of fighting. That 20th Century playbook ain’t stopping a dictator.
— Eric Swalwell (@ericswalwell.bsky.social) March 20, 2025 at 11:01 AM
Choose your fighters.
Open thread.
Authors In our Midst – Vicki Delany (Canadian Author)
piratedan
maybe… just maybe mind you… that cutting off anticipated incomes from farmers dependent on federal contracts isn’t playing well in states where there are significant numbers of farmers that have grown used to those subsidies, no matter that they are seeing tattoo artists and agricultural workers being deported to countries that they don’t originate from…
coin operated
Eric’s right y’know.
We need knife fighters at the TOP of our party. That’s why Schumer has to go…and I have a word or two for our senator from Nevada next time she’s in public.
Suzanne
LMMFAO.
It’s bizarre to me that Republicans are so obsessed with destroying it. Must be how they sublimate their coprophilia.
A Ghost to Most
When even Wyoming denizens are riled up, you know something is happening.
pluky
While I get what Rep. Swalwell is trying to convey, there is a 20th century playbook chapter on dealing with a dictator. Unfortunately, it describes a hard, costly game to play.
sentient ai from the future
Straight out of the abuser’s playbook to characterize concern over issues that meaningfully affect one’s life to “obsession” over things derided as if they are minutiae.
A Ghost to Most
@pluky: The problem is, a lot of people can’t grok that it may happen here.
Butch
Apparently the Wyoming meeting really got unruly, according to MeidasTouch news:
https://meidasnews.com/news/harriet-hageman-mercilessly-booed-at-town-hall-in-deep-red-wyoming
scav
If they can’t see that the vulture politician class is asset stripping and trashing (down to the brand-image, coherence and future viability of) the United States for shits’n’giggles’n’clicks’n’gain, they sure ain’t seeing them simultaneously doing it to the Republican party itself. These parasites are feeding off multiple hosts.
sentient ai from the future
Probably not a place for existing D officeholders to promote it, but I think those going to alternate-townhall events where an R rep won’t show up should be promoting recall petitions for those reps, where state constitutions allow.
all it would take is one or two reps and balance of power in Congress changes way earlier than 2027, plus it would force their hands and be a good lead in to campaigning, especially if pushed by the grassroots.
Details on recall here: https://www.ncsl.org/elections-and-campaigns/recall-of-state-officials
Steve LaBonne
And big time asshole Derrick Van Orden in Wisconsin didn’t show up for a town hall because he’s afraid of (((globalists))).
Themyscira 4 Ever
Regarding Swalwell, while I get his point, I’d say that the left favors one way of fighting back and the centrists favor a different way.
sentient ai from the future
@Steve LaBonne: Wisconsin has recall petitions, just sayin. And if these events are going to be held either way, the additional pressure of a recall campaign can force their hand and maybe get them to show up.
TaMara
More of this please.
The entire framing of this nightmare needs to be, “it’s all the Republicans breaking things, and when are the Republicans going to fix it?” Because it’s becoming clearer that the red masses are turning on them and we should absolutely encourage that.
Dems should sit back, organize, and resist. Let these sickly rats tear themselves apart – maybe throwing a little bait in there to help out.
Except for Shumer, he should be thrown out on his old, flabby ass and told to fucking sit in a corner until his term is up.
Melancholy Jaques
@coin operated:
How many of our senators have that personality or the required skill set?
Baud
NYT Times headline I spotted.
Ridiculous newspaper
Baud
@Butch:
Pretty sure the state constitution prohibits ruly meetings.
rebelsdad
@coin operated: Cuck Schumer and Catherine Cortez-Mustgo are not up to the current challenge at all.
I know name-calling is gauche now but I don’t give a high-flying fuck anymore.
RaflW
“People keep asking me if Dems are divided between left and center of party. Nope. We are divided over old and new ways of fighting.”
In the weeks since the selection of a new party chair, I’m just more and more sad and disappointed that Ben Wikler wasn’t chosen. I’m not a “this one thing” person, an institution as big and varied as the DNC wouldn’t change over night. But mild mannered Ken Martin seems to not be making any waves that I’ve noticed. And we need a tsunami.
frosty
A perfect rotating tag for this post just showed up:
rebelsdad
@TaMara: can I sit by you today?
prostratedragon
@Suzanne: I call statements like that HAL speeches.
Suzanne
@rebelsdad:
I say “lemony-fresh fuck”, but yours works, too.
zhena gogolia
@A Ghost to Most: Yes, I find that heartening.
tobie
Hmm….what things would the residents of Wyoming rely on from the federal govt? Funding for rural hospitals; postal service to every zip code in the state; oil and gas leases from the Bureau of Land Management; carbon sequestration facilities also from the BLM; mineral extraction (coal) and wind power through the DOE; military bases and testing sites; national parks; road maintenance and building from the Dept of Transportation. These are just a few things that occur to me off the top of my head and I’m not even in Congress, much less a representative for America’s least populated state.
RaflW
@TaMara: I agree. If the Senate Dems went on seniority, it’d be Patty Murray. She may not want the gig, but she seems to get what’s going on. And as Smash-emerita Nancy Pelosi said the other day “Listen to the women.”
Captain C
@Baud:
Come on, the subhead had to be “And how we at the FTFNYT helped them”.
Didn’t it?
RaflW
@Baud: Particularly since they were massively cheerleading the underbussing of Claudine Gay and the other women running Ivies.
Captain C
@tobie: Don’t forget water and dam management and maintenace from the Bureau of Reclamation (or whoever’s doing it now). I’m sure they could live without that forever.
Miss Bianca
@Suzanne:
Like…wtf, lady.
I keep thinking that nothing a Republican says is too stupid, venal, ill-informed, or malicious to smack my gob these days. Somehow, I keep getting rendered speechless on a regular basis anyway.
ETA: I wonder if Liz Cheney is feeling any impulse to put up billboards around the state going, “Miss me yet?”?
Butch
@Baud: Sorta like I’ve wondered – if you’re inept at something and you improve are you then ept?
Aimai
I think its important to realize that if the sole Wyoming representative was in ANY way associated with the democrats all the trump created problems would be asserted to be the result of trump naturally punishing the democrat and their voters. So the audience, of republicans, would be demanding to know why the democratic representative hadn’t sucked up to Trump harder. It’s only because this is now obviously a problem for trumps own voters and his own political side that the constituents know who to get angry at and realize that trump’s decision can’t be bought off. The idea that corrupt exceptions for the “good people” is very deeply engrained in that servile population—its part of authoritarianism—so if Cheney had been re-elected to that seat they would have been *furious* with her and blamed her for causing their falling out with the sun god.
mayim
Repeating from another thread but it’s important….
IMLS, the federal agency that provides funds to libraries and museums was DOGEd last night. Staff was supposed to be laid off as of this morning, although it looks like the lay-offs are being delayed until the press isn’t around, to avoid negative publicity.
Status of funding already allocated still in flux. Here in Maine, that money goes to interlibrary loan services, audio books for the visually impaired, book delivery to homebound, Internet access for those who don’t have it at home, and a variety of other services to underserved communities.
Today staff development day for the library I work at hasn’t gone as planned, as about 30% of the staff is federally funded.
So, if you like books/libraries and museums, please add IMLS support to any contacts you have with legislative personnel.
kindness
There are some good players on the Democratic Bench. None of their leaders mind you.
Ohio Mom
It’s hard to imagine a Democrat winning in Wyoming (are there any Democrats in that state?) but if there is such a thing anymore as a moderate Republican, that House seat could probably be theirs for the taking.
Gretchen
@tobie: The “why are you so obsessed with the federal government” comment was in response to a question from a constituent who was just fired from her job at the Department of Agriculture despite stellar reviews. She said she was responsible for helping farmers with things like drought response, and asked her rep what she was dong about these firings. Imagine thinking that was a good response to that question.
SpongeBobtheBuilder
@coin operated:
Who do you think should replace Schumer? I’m no fan either, but I heard Al Franken being interviewed and going through the options, and most wouldn’t be willing to do it.
narya
I finally saw Chris Hayes’ interviews with Schumer, and . . . whew. On one hand, I actually see his argument–that a shut-down would have given the Rs more power to just keep everything closed and destroy everything. That’s an important consideration! But has been noted, his messaging was just awful, and there seemed to be no fight at all, no attempt to slow anything down or actually create a platform to shout the message from the rooftops. (I also thought it was useful to hear him say he thinks we’re not yet at the “crisis” point–I disagree, and simultaneously hope he’s right.) I would have rather seen him use every possible strategy and tactic to slow things down AND simultaneously trumpet how awful the choice was, how the Dems chose to avoid what they regarded as the lesser evil, and that the Rs own ALL of the evil. Instead, the media got consumed with who’s waffling, who’s a yes or no, etc., and his approach enabled that to happen.
Miss Bianca
@Gretchen: “Oh, that silly old federal government that is literally THE thing that makes life possible in the state I happen to represent! Why are you so obsessed with it? I mean, it’s not like *I* can do anything to help you!”
Suzanne
@Miss Bianca:
Back at the beginning of the first Reign of Error, Mr. Suzanne commented that he could watch FFOTUS each and every day, say “FOR FUCK’S SAKE,” and it would be absolutely on point. We can now extrapolate that to every Republican.
Now I have Mariah Carey in my head…. WHY U SO OBSESSED WITH ME, indeed.
Steve in the ATL
@Butch: now do “flammable” and “inflammable”!
Suzanne
@Ohio Mom: There are more cows in Wyoming than people, and they’d likely do a better job at governance.
Steve LaBonne
@narya: The way it looks to me, there was no backup plan in case the House did pass the resolution, thus no messaging groundwork at all had been laid for filibustering it in the Senate, so Schumer panicked. There are reasonable arguments for voting either way, but absolutely no excuse for such a complete failure of foresight and leadership. If Schumer had any self-respect he would fall on his sword, but evidently he has none.
Steve in the ATL
@Suzanne: and better than the bulls too, no doubt.
Assuming that “listen to the women” applies to matters bovine as well as human.
prostratedragon
My primal screaming emphasis supplied:
Just have to get that off my chest occasionally.
raven
@Steve in the ATL: Dawgs comin up!
billcoop4
No recall for US Representatives and Senators even in states where recalls are allowed for state officials.
BC
HopefullyNotcassandra
@coin operated: With the deepest respect, may I remind you Nevada needs the government open for more reasons than we can enumerate. I wanted the Democrats to shut it down, while understanding what a horrible hobson’s choice that was for so many.
We need to aim all of our fire at the people responsible for this “gaudy shitshow”*. Perhaps that way we could peel off a sane Republican (or even a few) & not have to watch our country circle the toilet for 2 more years.
This is my humble opinion based this particular time in large part on watching Nevada implode too many times already for no fault of any Nevadan.
* “gaudy shitshow” was used to describe the gaudy glitter additions to our Oval Office by the moy of bad taste at digby’s hullaballoo today. (Thanks Watergirl for all of the links!). Gaudy shitshow works well to describe the entire current GOP project, don’t you think?
Steve in the ATL
@raven: woof! No basketball players arrested for reckless driving?
HopefullyNotcassandra
@Suzanne: I had to look that one up.
geg6
@TaMara:
You are 100% correct.
Suzanne
@HopefullyNotcassandra: I hope you weren’t using a work computer.
u
@Suzanne: Politics aside — the sheer stupidity of these people is appalling. Wyoming is one of the states that are, in effect, most subsidized by taxpayers in the “blue” states. (My own state, New Jersey, has the lowest ratio of federal benefits receive to federal taxes pay.). I get not even a thank you note from those deadbeats. They really need to go fuck themselves as soon as possible. https://wallethub.com/edu/states-most-least-dependent-on-the-federal-government/2700
Scout211
Some Musk adjacent news today:
Nearly all Cybertrucks were recalled today due to that pesky metal panel that flies off the truck.
Used Tesla market is crumbling.
And Teen Vogue has a cover story and interview with Vivian Jenna Wilson. Worth a read.
HopefullyNotcassandra
@pluky: Yes. Remember though history rhymes. The teeny Austrian mass murdering moron of last century could have been defanged with much less angst earlier on. Rosa Luxembourg, for example, could have joined the German liberals and not found herself so horribly dead.
Way back there used to be what if history sites on these internet ”tubes”that were quite fun until the Lemoncar muskites/muskovites arrived to deny the millions murdered by the teeny tiny lech of an Austrian moronic sadist.
* Alaska Senator Ted Stevens referred to the internet as a series of “tubes” once upon a time. I think he believed the internet pneumatic.
Jeffro
sign me up for Team Fight
wait
Team Maximum Fight
RaflW
@Ohio Mom: I’ve been thinking for a while (and occasionally commenting on) the idea of organizing field campaigns – separate from the Dem party – going out to contact farmers, ranchers and small ag-sector business owners around the country to communicate with them about all the gov’t services and programs they’re seeing cut.
People like that laid off agriculture worker in WY would be prime hires, I’d think, because they know the programs and likely have connections to start networking to reach these folks.
The key issues: Who’s gonna fund it? And who is gonna launch the effort? It doesn’t feel like my area of knowledge, other than very generically “organizer” and “very tiny nonprofit exec director”. But I’d be curious what other Juicers know.
Is anything like this happening? I followed a ‘farm state’ Democratic field worker back on Xitter before it was totally Shitter, but long ago forgot his name.
Steve in the ATL
In re Hageman, there is always an eighties song for any topic, I recommend a trip down under to visit the Stems and the b-side from their first single, She’s a Monster
Helping out since Omnes has dropped the ball today!
tobie
@Captain C: @Gretchen: You two know significantly more about Wyoming’s federal govt programs than the state’s rep. What a shameful display! And friggin idiotic to tell a recently fired Dep of Ag employee working on drought management that she shouldn’t obsess about the fed govt. Hard to imagine a more insensitive response to a woman worrying about how she’ll make ends meet.
Spanky
@HopefullyNotcassandra: Ted Stevens was a rotting husk of an ancient Senator (repetition in there) when his staff tried to get him to comprehend the nature of connected computers, and they ended up falling back on the physical model, which was all his addled mind could glom onto.
Surprisingly, Stevens died in a plane crash instead of having a coronary while schtupping an intern.
Jeffro
and we want to see all three:
Dems are going to waste the backlash on the GOP if they don’t get busy here.
Betty Cracker
@Steve LaBonne: I can’t get past the failure to anticipate the possibility that the House GOP would pass the bill without Dems either. We discussed that possibility on this blog! How on earth could our elected officials not plan for it? There’s no excuse.
HopefullyNotcassandra
https://ballotpedia.org/Laws_governing_recall
@sentient ai from the future: recall state officials where we can when we can.
I do not think the Supreme Court will let us recall federal house members though
I don’t see how trying hurts, although it is an expensive and time consuming process.
The link to ballotpedia includes all of the states that allow recall and against which offices.
NotMax
Verbatim.
Hageman: The question was “What will you do to protect the rights of trans and non-binary people?”
(crowed cheers)
Hageman: I don’t know what that means.
Jeffro
and Tesla owners can’t even leave them in bad neighborhoods with the keys in the ignition! LOL
Perhaps some enterprising soul will start Tesla-only smash-up derbies?
RevRick
@TaMara: Sen. Schumer is not going anywhere. The only people who can make that decision are the 45* Democratic Senators, which means that 23 are needed to oust him, and the last thing those Democrats want is a nasty intraparty fight.
*Angus King and Bernie are Independents who caucus with the Democrats, but aren’t part of the caucus itself.
coin operated
@narya:
Sorry y’all…had actual work to do. But i think this comment from narya is a better way of framing what my knife fighter should be doing in a time like this.
Miss Bianca
@Betty Cracker: That’s the thing that gets to me. I’m not into screaming “Off with their heads” when it comes to Democratic leadership, because I’m fucking sick of that shit and I don’t think it actually helps.
But really…not to have gamed out that possibility and, at the very least, to refrain from opening your big bazoo about how “Republicans don’t have the votes”? *That’s* dumb enough enough to qualify as *Republican* leadership potential.
NotMax
@Jeffro
Formula 88 racing?
//
Citizen Dave
Since Jan 21 I regular think of the Twilight Zone classic airplane gremlin episode with the monster outside taking the wing apart as we’re in flight. Only this is most definitely real. And we’re all passengers.
Jeffro
@prostratedragon: 110% agree
from the next comment in that thread:
which is also 110% true
most folks understand the concept of above/below replacement value in sports…it wouldn’t be hard for Dems to make the “co-presidents Musk and trumpov are far worse than just a head of cabbage placed on the Resolute Desk” argument heading into 2026
“BRV trump – y’all gonna run him again in 2028?”
WTFGhost
Over at Digby’s, there’s more horrific news about the Musk Doggies:
https://digbysblog.net/2025/03/20/now-doge-has-machine-guns/
They strong armed a security contractor, contracted to USIP, to help them break into, and take over, USIP. And all I can think of, is, if there’s any justice, every member of that contractor team should be burned, and never allowed to work in any secure environment again. If you hire security, they’re supposed to be yours, and, at worst, they should stand down – not help the goon squad.
NotMax
@Citizen Dave
Gremlins from the Kremlin.
//
zhena gogolia
@prostratedragon: I agree with him entirely.
Chief Oshkosh
@frosty:
Fixed that for you…
HopefullyNotcassandra
@Suzanne: I am not.
although, boy, do I have stories about colleagues who were not aware of internet search history functions in the way back. Just wowzer. Eye opening stuff. And that is enough said
HopefullyNotcassandra
@Spanky: Yes and corrupt to the skies too. The “tubes” is just way too funny to let go.
Steve LaBonne
A Ghost to Most
@Suzanne: Cows are heavy. The wind blew most of the people into Nebraska.
Steve LaBonne
Ksmiami
@pluky: nah I think we Fast Forward through the global war part and get straight to the Mussolini drag race/ Nuremberg phase
BellaPea
It amazes me how stupid, insensitive, and brainwashed these GOP congresspeople are, just clueless. Our own dumbass from Tennessee, Tim Burchett, goes around on cable TV raving about how great the efforts of Musk and DOGE are when we’re losing federal funding for the university and federal jobs in Oak Ridge at the lab and elsewhere. I’ve never seen anything like it.
Steve LaBonne
@Chief Oshkosh: “Major Major’s father was a sober God-fearing man whose idea of a good joke was to lie about his age. He was a long-limbed farmer, a God-fearing, freedom-loving, law-abiding rugged individualist who held that federal aid to anyone but farmers was creeping socialism. He advocated thrift and hard work and disapproved of loose women who turned him down. His specialty was alfalfa, and he made a good thing out of not growing any. The government paid him well for every bushel of alfalfa he did not grow. The more alfalfa he did not grow, the more money the government gave him, and he spent every penny he didn’t earn on new land to increase the amount of alfalfa he did not produce. Major Major’s father worked without rest at not growing alfalfa. On long winter evenings he remained indoors and did not mend harness, and he sprang out of bed at the crack of noon every day just to make certain that the chores would not be done. He invested in land wisely and soon was not growing more alfalfa than any other man in the county. Neighbors sought him out for advice on all subjects, for he had made much money and was therefore wise. “As ye sow, so shall ye reap,” he counseled one and all, and everyone said, “Amen.”
WTFGhost
‘kay, see, Ramaswamy is a fucking idiot, so, mimicking him is really stupid, unless you want to look like an idiot yourself, claiming your audience has a uterus wandering is search of impregnation.
(How did they cure wandering uterus? Vibrators. No, I’m not kidding – vibrators were a great labor saving device for poor doctors suffering from carpal tunnel. And, still: not kidding. A woman who was sent to the doctor for a “crisis” every now and again was much happier than one who didn’t, strangely enough. The play, “In The Next Room” (“or, the vibrator play”) has a lovely set up, including a woman explaining “well… what you’re describing… I mean, it’s like what I feel when… you know, I’m with my husband” leading to uproarious laughter, “oh, could you just imagine my husband involved in something like that?” The play has a happy ending, thankfully.)
Ksmiami
@RevRick: im not sure about this… maybe in the before times, but Schumers strategy is a loser.
comrade scotts agenda of rage
@Miss Bianca:
Heh heh, she should put the first one along I-25 between the CO border and Cheyenne.
I supported our office there after the move back to Denver in 2018. The pissed-off wingnuts there had a sign on one of the ginormous billboards along that stretch that said something to the effect of “We’re coming for you, Liz”.
And they followed thru on that threat and here they are.
What would be nice is if these unruly (R) voters remembered this come 2026. At least maybe primary that clown from the left, which in this case would still be way too far to the right of us.
comrade scotts agenda of rage
@TaMara:
I really wished you could have come to the meetup. ;)
Suzanne
@HopefullyNotcassandra: SuzMom had an employee who was a Mormon dude who she had to “discipline” for looking at P R O N at work. She was like, “It was girls with pigtails, I’m just disgusted.”
jonas
I will also point out that Wyoming is home to some of the country’s biggest and most popular national parks, first and foremost Yellowstone. Millions of tourists flock to those places each year — they’re a huge part of the economy and if the economy tanks and those parks shut down or are crippled in some way, thousands of businesses in and around the parks are screwed. Now they all think they’re virtuous, boot-strapping cowboys, but I think the prospect of the federal government falling apart and leaving them holding the bag just may — may — have jolted them awake a bit. The way leopards eyeing your face tend to do….
BarcaChicago
@Scout211: I was glad to see the article and that she is thriving. I was, however, irritated by Teen Vogue stating that trans people have been “left undefended by the Democrats”. I just don’t think it’s true and it’s yet another way to alienate young people from the party. Along those lines, I am deeply grateful to live in Illinois where Governor Pritzker has prioritized passing laws to protect trans civil rights.
David Collier-Brown
Off-topic:
Italian Prime Minister Giorgia Meloni called for extending NATO’s Article 5 security guarantees to Ukraine, arguing that doing so would demonstrate whether Russia is serious about peace. She said this in an address to the Italian Chamber of Deputies, on March 19.
See https://kyivindependent.com/extending-natos-article-5-to-ukraine-would-test-russias-peace-intentions-meloni-says/
comrade scotts agenda of rage
@Jeffro:
The piece linked to above does a good job, at least at the end, of explaining the more likely factors involved in used Tesla sales declines.
Hertz went all in almost 2 years ago and it bit them in the ass as they really had no clue how to rent and market EVs. Also too, used cars get dinged all the time. Tesla’s gigacasting body production means minor dings are horribly expensive to replace which in turn drives up the insurance rates, etc.
Hertz has been dumping Teslas for over a year now and that impact is continuing. Combine the competition and the overall negative-trending nature of the brand and it’s no wonder.
RevRick
@TaMara: I apologize.
BarcaChicago
@RaflW: Could not agree more. I really wanted to like Ken, but he comes off as the opposite of a fighter. Just no energy there, or ability to communicate effectively/authentically. OTOH, I’m glad to retain Ben Wickler in WI as we fight for our damn democracy. Ben really is a “happy warrior” type and that is what we need.
Baud
@BarcaChicago:
It’s misinformation. An imperfect defense does not mean undefended, and collective guilt for Dems is what the fascists do.
RevRick
@Ksmiami: What else could he have done? As far as I can tell, there was no way out of the predicament he faced.
raven
@Steve in the ATL: Ugh
Ruckus
@Suzanne:
As stated here before, I’m an old, and have watched rethuglicans be against moving forward my entire life.
I have no idea what they want a government to do. I’m not sure they actually even have AN IDEA, other than rushing backasswards at a breakneck pace. It’s like a dystopian nightmare. “Let’s make everything worse for everyone if we can’t have our way!”
RevRick
@Betty Cracker: What if there was no possible successful solution? What if in the face of a unified GOP House, the only alternative was to surrender as soon as possible? What if the best possible outcome was for Schumer to end up with egg on his face?
The GOP has been the party that gleefully welcomes shutdowns, so how does the party of government become okay with throwing sand in the gears?
cain
@HopefullyNotcassandra:
Yes, but then they’ll try to do that on our members funded by Musk.
Citizen Alan
@Jeffro: As I coldly told Trump voting relatives after 2016:
BarcaChicago
@Baud: Exactly. Teen Vogue chose to put that in their article. Disappointing to say the least.
u
@tobie: Wyoming resident are much more dependent on federal expenditure than are (for example) residents of my state (New Jersey). Actually, New Jersey tax payers are subsidizing the sorry asses of Wyoming residents. The people in Wyoming are just too fucking stupid to realize it.
Citizen Alan
@Chief Oshkosh: I’ve grown to hate Welfare Farmers. If we survive long ever win both houses of Congress again, I honestly don’t want to see a penny of federal money going to support Ag in red districts. Just shut those Reps out of the budget process completely. California will happily take that money instead.
As a demographic, farmers have become our enemies because they are people tied to the same land that there families have held for generations, and so they resent everyone who left them for the Big City, which is where all the people who frighten them live.
cain
Y’alls need to just step back and watch the fireworks. Those red states depend on federal dollars, they depend on fema. Once they’ve killed these federal agencies the blue states should simply say we aren’t going to be giving the same amount of money anymore. We were paying for a dept of education, fema, etc. If we aren’t going to get any of those then it will be dialed down and we need to do it as a block.
These people are going to find out that life is about to get way way worse. Once they can’t contact social security by phone, their next stop of the SSA building, and then finally their Republican representative. That’s when things are going to get really really messy
Fox News, the GOP, and everyone in their little world have told them that they are the victims, they are the real christians, the real americans – etc etc. They’ve spurned all their relationships with their kids, their grandkids, for the promises of a better America (while still taking federal dollars) – you’ve built them up and now you’re crashing it.
No amount of Fox News is going to change the reality of “check and then no check”, “health care, and no healthcare”.
u
@Steve LaBonne: Ha. “Catch-22” has been my personal Bible since I was a teenager.
raven
@Steve LaBonne: Help him, help HIM!
raven
@Steve LaBonne: I camped on the bay in Mexico where they filmed it.
zhena gogolia
@Citizen Alan: Brilliant.
cain
@jonas: FAFO
The federal govt is going to react with violence.
cain
@Citizen Alan:
It’s all going to be bought out from them. They’ll have no recourse but to sell the land to survive. For cheap.
Jeffro
@Citizen Alan: that’s a pretty good message!
…it’d STILL be less bad than J6 (with apologies to Vince, but it’s just true)
p.a
Derp Red voters now recognize a category of Deserving “Moochers.”
Jeffro
oh my
I am thinking of all the pearls that would be clutched, and couches fainted upon, if a national Dem said something like that
(despite the House GOP and trump both trying their best, openly, repeatedly, to directly screw over ‘blue’ districts)
it’s exactly what they deserve, though!
rikyrah
@Baud:
Lying, ridiculous muthaphuckas😠
Matt McIrvin
@Themyscira 4 Ever: Online, “the left” extends all the way to people who claim to be pro-Trump on radical left grounds (particularly over Ukraine).
Ksmiami
@Citizen Alan: yep they’re fucking undeserving moochers who hate everyone not them. Turn the tables.
prostratedragon
“I honestly think you ought to sit down calmly, take a stress pill, and think things over.”
Ksmiami
@RevRick: he could have spoken out against the GOP wanton destruction and games out different messages for different scenarios.
Jay
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/hamilton/tesla-dealership-vehicles-damaged-1.7488806
Old School
@Jay: Will Canada push for the death penalty?
buggrit
@Old School: Well, shoot, might as well go after the guy himself if they’re going to execute you anyway.
Jay
@Old School:
We don’t have the death penalty.
The most the
perpshero’s will face is community service, probably picking up panels from Tesla’s off the sides of highways.Ksmiami
End Musk et Al – and Remember, they fucking started it
chemiclord
@pluky: Don’t worry, Americans haven’t and won’t read that book either.
Interesting Name Goes Here
@prostratedragon: The replies are…predictable.
This is why black people are largely feeling like this is a fight worth sitting out. Not only are every single one of them proving his point, but they are reinforcing the view that I hold – which is none of them will learn until it starts to fucking hurt.
Avalune
This is killing me. Hahahaha:
The order simultaneously calls for the department to close and maintain an “uninterrupted delivery of services, programs, and benefits on which Americans rely.”
[re the Dept of Ed]
I don’t know how many times one can say these are not serious people.
prostratedragon
About that WI judicial election:
Jeffro
@Avalune: that’s great!
“Do all the things you used to do that made people happy, while also chipping in for my tax cuts for billionaires and helping me do performative MAGA stunts* ”
*btw several folks here and there have noted that trumpov & Co are off on a “drunk guy at the bar”s wish list of uninformed far-right fantasies ever since the election, and I think it fits.
Avalune
@Jeffro: I’m gonna go ask Wendy’s to close but still make me a sammich!
And then get the FBI and DC Police to break into a Wawa so I can take the chips.
Gary Trauner
@Ohio Mom: Sadly, nope. The state leg is the only one in the country controlled by the Freedom Caucus. I ran in WY in 06 and 08 and nearly pulled major upsets. Then ran for Senate in 18 and got destroyed. Will take time and major fed program destruction to change things (although given the trajectory right now, crazier things have happened). Ther are no moderate Rs left in WY…
Baud
@Gary Trauner:
Good for you for trying. Red State Dems are heroes.
RaflW
@tobie: It’s insensitive to the laid off employee, and to WY’s farmers and ranchers, who – contra GOP received wisdom – DO use and benefit from gubmit.
Gary Trauner
@u: Not all of us
comrade scotts agenda of rage
@Gary Trauner:
I remember all that and had no idea you were a lurker!
Also too, show me a unicorn. That’s a more likely event to happen than to show me a moderate (R) left *anywhere*. Except disguised ones like our glibertarian, techbro governor.
different-church-lady
Even the folks in the rube states [sic] are waking up to the fact they’re being played.
zhena gogolia
@prostratedragon: And he WAS DRIVING THE WHOLE TIME AND NOT LOOKING AT THE ROAD
different-church-lady
I had a conversation with my mailman that went, “It’s so bizarre to me how obsessed you are with postage.”
I had a conversation with my mechanic. I told him, “It’s so bizarre to me how obsessed you are with car repair.”
zhena gogolia
@different-church-lady: I think you should flip it to make it apply.
The car mechanic says to you, “I think it’s weird how obsessed you are with car repair.”
cain
@different-church-lady:
They are getting exactly what they voted for.
Parfigliano
@different-church-lady: Awakening now. Hopefully fully awake come election day ’26.
A Ghost to Most
In contrast, my Rep. Brittney Pettersen, is having yet another (virtual) town hall. She’s a big improvement over Ed Perlmutter.
As for an awakening, I will believe it when my siblings call me to whine about it.
Lobo
@cain:
Already happened : TPM Story
different-church-lady
@zhena gogolia: Good point. “It’s so weird to me how obsessed you are with getting your mail.”
Lobo
@Jeffro: Wouldn’t that be true of Schumer? Would a head of lettuce have done a better job than Schumer? The answer seems to be yes. Hmm. Should we use the lettuce test on all our reps?
Betty
@RaflW: Someone said she is about to retire. Sadly.
Matt McIrvin
@cain: There’s going to be a whole lot of “they made one mistake while they were cutting all the waste, fraud and abuse–if only the Czar knew!”
different-church-lady
@Spanky:
[sigh] So much potential…
The Audacity of Krope
GOP never championed free speech on campus. Their fighting for the privilege of their lies being accepted as “truth.”
NaijaGal
@Gary Trauner:
Thank you for running! I donated to your campaign four times (in 2017 and 2018) even though I knew it was a long shot.
JoeyJoeJoe
@Gary Trauner: had you won in 2008, every state in the country would have had at least one democrat in Congress. Wyoming hasn’t elected a democrat to Congress since 1976. 2006 was the closest a democrat came to winning since then
thalarctosMaritimus
@WTFGhost: “happy ending”
ISWYDT
Kayla Rudbek
@Jeffro: as I previously mentioned, there’s now a service to steal your Tesla and sell it overseas https://stealmytesla.com