If ever you wondered whether or not Tim Walz was right to call these guys weird and make fun of them and the consultants who shut him up should get fucked, read this:
The White House Correspondents’ Association is canceling comedian Amber Ruffin’s planned headline performance for its annual dinner next month, amid tensions between the association and President Donald Trump’s administration.
“The WHCA board has unanimously decided we are no longer featuring a comedic performance this year,” WHCA President Eugene Daniels wrote in an email Saturday afternoon to members, adding that the event’s “focus is not on the politics of division” but rather on honoring the work of the association’s journalists.
The decision comes after White House deputy chief of staff Taylor Budowich attacked the association for planning to spotlight Ruffin, who has been critical of the administration.
The most damaging thing you can do to these guys is make fun of them and they know it. Personally, I would rather shit in my hands and clap than watch the WHCD, so I will watch a special with Ruffin and support her that way, but regardless, this should tell you we need to make fun of these guys every chance we get.
me
Speaking of Walz, he gave poor Elon a sad. https://old.reddit.com/r/Fauxmoi/comments/1jmg73d/elon_musk_tim_walz_who_is_a_huge_jerk_was_running/
West of the Rockies
Be super awesome if some rogue journalists put on an alternative event and ripped Trump and his sycophants (WP & Bezos, etc.) a big new one.
NotMax
Ahem.
Walz
Professor Bigfoot
@NotMax: beat me to it.
Chetan Murthy
Oh man! Amber Ruffin? She’s so great, too!
Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)
If I were a journalist, I’d boycott that dinner. Thanks WHCA for obeying in advance!
Baud
I’m glad they told Trump he couldn’t attend.
NotMax
Thanks for making the correction, John.
Spanky
@Goku (aka Amerikan Baka): Nagahappen. WH correspondents are chosen based on their already being compliant little stenographers.
Parfigliano
WHCA. Fuckin joke stenographer pool.
hells littlest angel
Oh, no. There are things that can be done to them that would be much more damaging.
robtrim
You can’t make fun of der Feuhrer!
Baud
I’m going to be a little scoldy and pedantic here. The most damaging thing you can do to them is to disrespect them. That includes making fun of them, but it can include other actions.
OTOH, if you make fun of them as a form of entertainment, then you’re not really disrespecting them. Quite the opposite. You’re treating them as a valued comedian.
Suzanne
Agree. Be funny and fun and point out that they are ludicrous.
Barney
Serious question: what, apart from hosting this dinner, does the WHCA do? Its members write or broadcast about the White House, but they do that for media organizations, not for the WHCA. It used to organize the press pool – but the Trump regime has prevented that. Has the WHCA done anything in response – a lawsuit, articles attacking the Trump regime decision as undemocratic, a boycott?
NotMax
@hells littlest angel
¿Por qué no all of ’em, Katie?
//
Chetan Murthy
@Barney: One presumes they exist to prove there’s a club, and you (and by extension we all) are not in it.
satby
@Baud: yeah, disrespect is what triggers them. Mockery as a form of disrespect works well at damaging the perception of power and invincibility they try to project
Jackie
Moved from last thread…
Ruffin would have made Michelle Wolf‘s insults in 2018 look tame!
Raoul Paste
“ Personally, I would rather….”
I was about to have dinner, but oh well….😉
Baud
@Jackie:
She should do a competing event.
Chetan Murthy
@Baud: I have a very vague memory that Comedy Central did that one year. But it’s only very vague.
Ksmiami
@Baud: the most damaging thing we can do to them will come.
bcwbcw
Time for a simulcast “Not the White House Correspondents Dinner” starring Amber Ruffin.
Jackie
@Baud: My thought, exactly! And I hope Comedy Central or someone else comes up with that idea ;D
Baud
@Ksmiami:
As long as it doesn’t involve voting for Democrats. /Voters
A Ghost to Most
Their thin skin is so easy to get under, it’s a shame that more people don’t do it. I’ve been doing it so long, it’s second nature.
JaySinWA
@Raoul Paste: just be sure to wash your hands.
Jackie
@bcwbcw:
@Baud:
CNN’s Have I Got News For You covers news events right up to air time, so this may get addressed in tonight’s episode! :D
sab
Gone.
bbleh
Walz was right to call them “weird,” and Hillary was right to call them “dumb.” They are both. They are grotesque caricatures of humans, who have attained power mostly through being born to the right people. (It certainly ain’t “merit,” as even a casual perusal of Trump’s and Musk’s business careers makes clear, not to mention their historically nearly unprecedented record of taking the US economy from “soft landing” to “stagflation” in under a quarter OR their record-setting rate of destroying international political alliances.)
bbleh
@Baud: sadly true, and why contrary to others I don’t think effort would be wasted in attending to the “Democratic brand.”
Baud
@bbleh:
That always devolves into Democrats attacking each other for promoting the wrong brand.
David Collier-Brown
@bbleh: Yup!
Up in Canada, we have serious politicians, many of which I disagree with, and Mr Polievre, who is more than just weird, he’s incoherent.
Gee, who does _that_ remind me of?
Jay
@David Collier-Brown:
Who the hell rage eats an apple?
bbleh
@Baud: which, frankly, is BS. Anyone who identifies with the party is affected by it — indeed in many cases has their elections determined by it, given who are the pivotal voters right now — and hence has a substantial interest in a positive brand (vs. what we got now).
It can be nothing more substantial than puppies and apple pie and being nice to people (but also STRONG against Our Enemies), but right now the neglect is both palpable and costly.
BlueGuitarist
DNC chair Ken Martin and Florida Dems Chair Nikki Fried are knocking doors in DeLand, Florida to get out the vote for Josh Weil in FL-06.
in Seattle protesters at the Tesla dealership are demonstrating what’s happening to Tesla stocks by doing the electric slide
Baud
@bbleh:
Dems stand for pecan pie, splitter!
Elizabelle
WHCA likes to think of themselves as The Nerd Prom. Cuz they so smart. But they’re actually the Bootlickers Ball. The Complicit Cotillion.
Baud
Via Reddit
bbleh
@Baud: We’re for ALL the pies! The good ones, I mean. AND also the pie-ing of bad people! We LOVE pie! Democrats: the Pie Party!
Srsly, whatshisfk McNaughton can actually PAINT the Republican brand. Can you imagine anyone trying to paint the Dem brand? Pollock perhaps? Or Mondrian?
Gloria DryGarden
Bex
@hells littlest angel: There are worse things…hire Zelenskyy for the job. Former comedian and all-around entertainer who could finish Rump off in a NY second.
NotMax
@bbleh
Time was Nesselrode pie was offered on virtually every menu.
Good luck finding it now. What’s up with that?
;)
JoyceH
@Jackie: I keep seeing ads for Have I Got News For You but never watched it. Is it any good?
something fabulous
@Bex: HA! Genius!
tobie
@BlueGuitarist: I just finished a phonebanking session in FL-06. It’s hard to believe it but there are still folks who don’t know about the special election.
@bbleh: Was it ever confirmed that, after choosing Walz because of his “weird” moniker for Trump and Vance, the Harris campaign told him not to use it? I know this is an article of faith on the left but I’ve always been skeptical about the claim and haven’t found a single news report from the fall claiming this.
I'm Not Rappaport
@BlueGuitarist: YES.
I like that, to paraphrase a certain NFL player.
Jay
@NotMax:
For just a single pie, you need 3 large egg yolks, that makes it way to expensive these days.
Nukular Biskits
Good evenin’, y’all.
Been waitin’ on the rain all day. Hasn’t showed up yet. Finished borders around my crab apple trees I planted. Put out some centipede grass seed. Tore up the house looking for my damned Sony earbuds (didn’t find them).
Y’all?
Lums Better Half
@NotMax: You might want to look up what happened to the American Chestnut (a main flavoring). Around 4 billion trees destroyed by the chestnut blight.
Nukular Biskits
@Goku (aka Amerikan Baka):
Reminds me of that quote attributed to Groucho Marx:
Nukular Biskits
@Baud:
This one prefers chocolate chip pecan pie.
WARNING: Probability of falling into a diabetic coma after eating more than 1 slice is > 80%.
Lums Better Half
@NotMax: Chestnut blight happened. A true American tragedy.
mrmoshpotato
Fixed.
Amber Ruffin, Michelle Wolf co-headlining please.
bbleh
@tobie: no idea. He DID stop, which I thought was weird (ha) because it seemed to be having an effect. But maybe it focus-grouped badly or something.
This bleeds into the whole story line about “consultants” watering down and diverting Democratic politics, about which again I got no idea except for observing how pretty much ALL national-level Dems (with a few well-known exceptions) have become somewhere between anodyne and invisible, and hardly for the first time.
“Howard Dean was right!” [disappears under avalanche of scorn]
YY_Sima Qian
There goes the attractiveness of US institutions of higher learning:
Academic freedom, concentration of the world’s best researchers, & generous funding, had been some of the most important factors recommending US universities over those in Europe, Japan, Singapore or the PRC. The MAGA reactionaries are tearing down the entire edifice w/ total abandon, taking sledgehammers to every one of the pillars, & most universities seem utterly helpless & spineless in face of the assault.
Adam Tooze does a deep dive into Columbia, his own institution:
Delicate Butterfly
They should get that congress person who was making fun of Governor Hotwheels.
She is HILARIOUS!
Nukular Biskits
@YY_Sima Qian:
The damage the Trump Admin is doing to institutions of higher learning is incalculable, IMHO, and will take years to repair, if ever.
I personally would recommend any/all foreign students to consider studying anywhere BUT the US at this point. Ditto on US student as well.
Geminid
@tobie: I think people with broader* agendas are pushing this story as a “stab in tbe back” narrative.
* Ed. “…and longstanding agendas…”
Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)
@YY_Sima Qian:
I can’t understand this. Doesn’t Johns Hopkins think they’re going to face blowback from this from the public/students/faculty?
VeniceRiley
@West of the Rockies: Great idea. I would watch it. But, it will need coverage on YouTube, cspan, and networks. And jibes going viral so they get media play.
PS I am a huge Amber Ruffin fan. She’s getting robbed here.
Gloria DryGarden
@Nukular Biskits: pls send me a piece of each. I need to taste test before I opine. Teleporter coordinates coming soon.
S Cerevisiae
Whenever I see that acronym my brain reads it as WCHA – Western Collegiate Hockey Association.
Gloria DryGarden
@VeniceRiley: totally!
Ksmiami
@Nukular Biskits: that’s why it is up to the non maga cretins to fight them. And we can put a lot of sand in the gears.
Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)
@YY_Sima Qian:
In response to the Johns Hopkins piece (which is paywalled), I found this reddit comment from a thread on the Baltimore Banner article:
Gloria DryGarden
@Elizabelle:
the complicit cotillion was meeting
they gave each other a greeting
They missed hearing jokes
Just a group of dull blokes
who cared for eating and seating
(others are welcome to make this better, adjust for stronger wording, better word choices, etc)
Nukular Biskits
@Ksmiami:
I’m not in academia and my college days are almost 40 years in the rearview mirror.
I have to hope, though, that students and faculty are putting pressure on college/university administrations to tell Trump & Co to fuck off.
lamh47
Using my weekends to try not to obsess, so day ending in -Y…time to rewatch Constantine!
I freakin love this movie man. So excited that they are trying to work on a sequel with Keanu.
zhena gogolia
@Goku (aka Amerikan Baka): That’s what the article says they’re telling faculty. I don’t see anything particularly outrageous about this.
Gloria DryGarden
@Ksmiami: “how to put sand in the gears”
is that an upcoming guest/ front page article, coming soon? More ideas welcome as we work to eliminate anti American ideology from the White House, cabinet and other bad players.
bbleh
@Goku (aka Amerikan Baka): just guessing here, but American research universities have been in a close partnership with the federal government for … 75 years or more (Vannevar Bush, 1947 iirc). The feds fund and the universities produce knowledge that benefit the country’s businesses, health, defense, etc. Corporate funded basic (vs. commercially-focused applied) research is comparatively nil. And Trump is now holding that hostage. Play my hate-the-immigrants game or I’ll strip your funding and the Supremes will back me. That’s existential, not just for the universities but for the larger and longer-term corpus of scientific research in the US.
Funny what happens when you put a stupid racist mobster in charge of the federal government…
Miki
IMO Walz is pretty much done in Minnesota. I don’t think he could be elected as Governor again (12 years has never happened here), and there are boatloads of MAGAts in the rural hinterland that hate his guts and love the Orange Shit gibbon. Old timey DFL folks hated that he left Congress to run for Governor because they knew a RWNJ was going to take his place. His brand is, sadly, done.
I like Tim’s plain-spokenness. But I’m not sure that’s what we need right now.
zhena gogolia
@Miki: I hope he has a future on the national stage. He is a sterling public servant.
HinTN
@Nukular Biskits: Also waiting on that rain. Finished the first draft of the deed that will separate off some mountain land for a conservation easement. Hauled the last of the firewood up to the porch for enjoying Dogwood Winter. Ate the Lasagna Bolognese I made yesterday for lunch. Enjoyed the hell out of 70 F today. Thanks for asking.
Nukular Biskits
@HinTN:
“Dogwood Winter”?
lamh47
Interesting post from Reddit
HinTN
@Nukular Biskits: “I don’t belong to any organized political party. I’m a Democrat.”
Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)
@Miki:
How do they know that?
Gloria DryGarden
@Geminid: on a different thread, you told someone about a commenter seen on mister mix’s blog. I am having a lot of trouble posting a comment, or to even see others comments. Any advice?
i tried read online, from emails, it still won’t post. I wonder if it’s my older iPad that can’t update…
tobie
@YY_Sima Qian: Hmm…I was at a meeting last week where it was explained that ICE agents need a signed warrant to enter a classroom. We were told they might barge in all the same and no one was expecting us to put our body on the line. I’ll find out what others are hearing.
ETA: The reddit comment Goku quoted at #64 is closer to what I was told.
suffragette city
Mel Brooks then
Mel Brooks now Mel Brooks forever
YY_Sima Qian
@Nukular Biskits: Germany institutions of higher learning never quite recovered from the Nazis, too much of the talent went to the US & the UK.
sab
@YY_Sima Qian: Yikes and JesusFiuckingChrist! When you attend an institution you expect it to have your back.
Johns Hopkins has always had questionable ethics. They had a professor on board who lied for a couple of generations about coal dust and miners black lung disease. Lost all those dying miners and their widows pensions. So nothing they do surprises me.
All the other universities folding does surprise me. Tufts and Columbia? Really?
HinTN
@Nukular Biskits:
It’s that cold snap that generally happens when the dogwoods bloom around these parts. You being from the Gulf Coast wouldn’t have that colloquial construct. Ner Blackberry Winter, I’d imagine. 🙄
zhena gogolia
@sab: So you want them to tell faculty members to get in fights with ICE agents?
Jackie
@JoyceH:
Personally, I love it. It’s very politically snarkly anti-republican, and hilarious.
YMMV
JoyceH
Watching Rick Steves travel documentaries I learned that Nuremberg has a museum of Naziism. Documents when and how and why the movement grew, sort of a Cautionary Tale. Know the signs etc. They do presentations to police departments and schools.
We’re going to need something like that. I suggest Mar A Lago would be an appropriate site.
sab
@zhena gogolia: Thank you from the front lines. Reality check. No, but I would like public squawks and protests and possibly legal action taken when their students are taken. Not submissive silence.
ETA You are at the front lines. I am not.
Nukular Biskits
@HinTN:
Well, maybe not.
I’d have to go back through the local mullet wrapper’s archives or look at old family photos but there was at least one year it snowed several inches AFTER the azaleas were already in full bloom. IIRC, the kids were around 8 or 9 years old, which would have made it around 1999 or 2000.
Then there was the one year it sleeted three inches in March, I believe, while actual snow passed by us out in the MS Sound and came ashore in Mobile or Pensacola.
ETA: Just happened across this on Crooks and Liars:
Weekend Update: John Belushi on March Weather – SNL
YY_Sima Qian
@zhena gogolia: That’ll teach me to read the the body of the article & not just the headline. Having now read it, the fact that JHU Administration plans to refuse access to non-public areas to the ICE & other federal LEOs, is encouraging. However, the Trump gang is holding ~ US$ 400M in federal grants over JHU’s head, so we’ll see if JHU Administration will actually protect its students singled out for targeting by the reactionaries, or indeed the integrity freedom of the institution itself, or will they pull a Columbia.
If the most prestigious private institutions w/ the richest endowments, the highest reputation & the greatest influence fail to stand up to the MAGA reactionaries, the state institutions have even less ability to do so.
I suspect it will be even more difficult for the JHU administration to stand up to the powerful reactionaries among its own alumini & Board.
Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)
@zhena gogolia:
Did the Baltimore Banner article mention that the university’s campus police would trespass ICE agents from the campus?NVM, YY_Sima Qian answered right before I posted this
Jay
@zhena gogolia:
How do you know they are ICE agents, they have no uniforms, they wear hoodies and masks, drive unmarked unlicensed cars.
Jackie
@Delicate Butterfly:
Oh, if only! LOL
tobie
@bbleh: I don’t know where the fault lies for invisibility but I suspect it’s not just Dems wanting to fade into the woodwork or even the media but true to the old adage, “Republicans fall in line, Dems fall in love,” we don’t focus on most Dem politicians because we’re not in love with them. It’s a weird phenomenon and can lead to good things like the outpouring of support for Obama in 2008 but it also means that politicians who are not photogenic or charismatic or beloved curmudgeons just don’t grab our attention. Example: Sen Mark Kelly has been really strong flipping the script on patriotism but who has heard him? I always learn tons from Rep Sean Casten’s threads, but how many people quote them?
sab
@YY_Sima Qian: That is a point. Their board.
tobie
@YY_Sima Qian: $800 million in NIH and USAID grants at Johns Hopkins have already been cancelled.
I know additional grants and contracts may be cut but I don’t have the dollar figure.
Gin & Tonic
@sab: How did Tufts “fold?”
HinTN
@Nukular Biskits: Spring weather can be capricious. One year it started pouring down snow on Friday afternoon. It snowed about a foot, literally. Saturday was a bear but on Sunday the sun came out, temps went up into the high 60s and the snow was gone by late afternoon. (Except where it had drifted over my brother’s driveway to a depth of 2 + feet. I had to use my front end loader and dig my way in so he could go to work.)
ETA – Belushi ftw
tobie
@sab: @YY_Sima Qian: You both seem to have knowledge of the people on the board. I don’t. Could you please give some pointers as to which board members are powerful reactionaries? Here’s the list: https://trustees.jhu.edu/trustees/
YY_Sima Qian
@tobie: Thanks for sharing your perspective.
There will likely come a time where such a logical & defensible position (not acting to interfere w/ the arrests or help/hide those targeted) will be viewed in shame in hindsight (given the precedence from all of the other authoritarian regimes in history). Of course, it is an awfully lot to ask people to risk their own wellbeing & that of their families to stand up to the Fascists. I don’t think I will be any braver, as I too have a lot to lose. My solution to the predicament to stay away from the US, but there may come a time when the CPC regime places me in the same quandary (but not so far, thankfully).
That is why anti-Fascism is a collective action endeavor. There is safety in numbers, & I fear the understandable recommendations by the university admins are undermining the potential for collective action. Of course, we shouldn’t expect activism or radicalism from admins.
Interesting Name Goes Here
@HinTN: I’m really coming to hate that quote. Like some of George Carlin’s later political humor, it’s been co-opted by certain people hoping to use it as justification of their stupid and/or malicious actions.
“I’m not a member of an organized political party – I’m a Democrat. That’s why, despite all the evidence suggesting that you are the best option for making progress on the causes I believe in, I’m going to dedicate my every waking moment to making sure the general public hates your guts on an atomic level prior to Election Day. Because I’m not a mindless zombie. I’m a Democrat.” Smirk worthy of a knockout punch goes here.
Nukular Biskits
@HinTN:
Back in the winter of ’76/’77, when I was growing up in Meridian, MS, we had a terrible ice storm along with snow that left most of the area (and probably most of the region … I don’t recall the specifics) without power.
Since the roads were iced over and the power lines were down, we were out of school. I remember me and my brother playing outside for hours, even though the temps stayed in the 20s.
During the aforementioned “Snow on the Azaleas”, I could last only about 15 minutes outside with the kids. LOL
Betty Cracker
The Trump assholes are thin-skinned twats, but it’s absurd that the WHCA is still holding an event at all. There should’ve been tumbleweeds blowing through that briefing room starting when the authoritarians banned AP for not going along with the “Gulf of America” nonsense. It’s nonstop lies anyway.
zhena gogolia
@Jay: I would call the campus police in any case and not get into an altercation myself, I’m afraid.
Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)
@bbleh:
That’s absolutely what’s going on. I just find it disappointing that public backlash doesn’t seem to factor into these decisions by universities, big law firms like Paul, Weiss, etc to fold.
What Trump and company are doing is not popular and this will only become apparent as the consequences begin pilling up. These people are not nearly as invincible as they like to portray themselves to be
zhena gogolia
@Interesting Name Goes Here: It’s Will Rogers, I believe.
YY_Sima Qian
@Goku (aka Amerikan Baka): There are a lot of public spaces in university campuses. ICE can try to arrest targeted students walking from class to dorm, then we will see whether JHU fights to protect its students, or folds.
Jay
Remember when Edward Said was a Professor at Columbia?
Good times.
zhena gogolia
@Jay: I’m sure there are still many professors of great integrity at Columbia. I’m not sure what point you’re trying to make there.
different-church-lady
I suppose sanewashing fascism is a kind of work.
Jay
@zhena gogolia:
It’s a great time in America to be a kidnapper, sex trafficker or serial killer.
Jay
@zhena gogolia:
Edward Wadie Said[a] (1 November 1935 – 24 September 2003) was a Palestinian-American academic, literary critic, and political activist.[1] As a professor of literature at Columbia University, he was among the founders of post-colonial studies.[2] As a cultural critic, Said is best known for his book Orientalism (1978), a foundational text which critiques the cultural representations that are the bases of Orientalism—how the Western world perceives the Orient.[3][4][5][6] His model of textual analysis transformed the academic discourse of researchers in literary theory, literary criticism, and Middle Eastern studies.[7][8][9][10]
WaterGirl
@Elizabelle: I swear I am just reading your comment now, after posting the open thread where I call the WHCA bootlickers in their name.
WaterGirl
@Jackie: I am wondering if the whole show is comedy, or just her part.
WaterGirl
@Jackie: I also wrote the post before reading these comments. My brain must be on the BJ channel tonight.
Interesting Name Goes Here
@zhena gogolia: Oh, I know who it’s from. It’s just that in the year 2025, it’s aging about as well as Carlin’s bit about staying home to jerk off instead of voting.
“I’m not a member of an organized political party. I’m a Democrat.”
“Oh, really? Well, I’ll leave you be, then. By the way, I took a look around the place and – among other things – the main supports are buckling visibly and audibly. If I were you, I’d get on that sharpish. Toodles.”
What was once an pithy and maybe even astute observation is now being used to justify inactions or wrong actions, at least in my eyes. Honestly, I find that distasteful at best.
WaterGirl
@YY_Sima Qian: Hugely disappointing.
Another Scott
@Goku (aka Amerikan Baka):
Relevant Popehat thread from 3/27:
(Emphasis added.)
Seems like good advice at this point in time, but IANAL.
FWIW.
Best wishes,
Scott.
tobie
@YY_Sima Qian: The point of the department meeting was not to say, “Don’t put your body on the line.” It was to say that you will have to make the choice and there are risks involved. You will likely be arrested and you will not have prevented anyone from being detained.
There are likely better ways to deal with the God awful situation of ICE suddenly turning up at your classroom. Paeans to collective action are not going to help you at that moment. It would be better to remember to that classrooms have key cards. Don’t open the door to anyone who’s not authorized to be there. Videotape any forced entry. Have all important numbers to call on hand.
Jackie
It always boils down to Fake News! and Witch Hunts! when FFOTUS can’t defend himself or his administration.
Gin & Tonic
Now it’s time to watch the hoops and join with all right-thinking Americans in rooting for a Duke loss.
Jackie
@Gin & Tonic: I’m an underdog rooter, and this year I’m having a sad March Madness.
zhena gogolia
@Jay: I know perfectly well who Edward Said was.
trollhattan
@Interesting Name Goes Here:
You’re confusing George Carlin with Will Rodgers.
In case that makes a difference.
Gloria DryGarden
@Jay: which makes it so unspeakably creepy
zhena gogolia
@trollhattan: Apparently it doesn’t!
Glory b
@Jackie: Jasmine Crockett, of Texas.
Today happens to be her 45th birthday!
Jay
@zhena gogolia:
https://www.theguardian.com/film/2025/mar/29/the-encampments-film-columbia-university-student-protests
Once upon a time, he had a safe home at Columbia, now no Palestinian supporters do. Funny how quickly things change.
Actually, other than soutpiel’s and some ruZZians, no Foreign Students have a safe place at Columbia.
Funny how T’s Institution had a list of denials of 2, ( Liberty U and WCCC), basically automatically round filing apps from wanna be undergrads and Grad students, and it’s now 57, all but two US.
YY_Sima Qian
@Gin & Tonic: Oh come on!
Of course, I have no ties to Duke myself, but my loyalty to Duke basketball was born of its early 90s run on my impressionable young mind when I 1st immigrated to the U.S.
Jackie
@Glory b:
I knew who you meant. And, again, if ONLY!
She definitely has the
brassballs to do it – should be asked! :DRevRick
We men have the bad habit of using vulgar references to women as a way of denigrating other men. It’s a habit as old as civilization, unfortunately. And when we do that, whether we intend so or not, we are teaching other men (and our sons and daughters) that there is something shameful about being likened to women, that women are only worthy of our contempt, creatures to be despised.
Maybe a stance we guys can take to stop rape culture and abuse culture and also homophobia is to stop using language that makes anything associated with women as less.
John Cole, what say you?
bbleh
@Goku (aka Amerikan Baka): again just what I suspect, but “public backlash” takes time to have material effect, and in this case — with an administration that’s term-limited and pretty clearly doesn’t care about electoral prospects for its Congressional foot-soldiers (once it gets its giant tax cuts for very wealthy individuals and corporations) — it might not be for four years. OTOH, if they follow through on their threats, you lose your people NOW, and … they won’t be waiting to come back 4 years from now.
The administration’s threat is, “pretty nice massive and historically productive 75-year partnership you got going here (which btw we don’t care about), be a shame if a little squeamishness over knuckling some non-White immigrants led to it being massively degraded or completely destroyed, huh?”
Gloria DryGarden
@RevRick: thank you for saying something about this. I think it’s a very important point.
I never forget hearing two men yelling at each other on the street, over a fender bender. One called the other “pussy”
All I could think was if it’s such a bad thing, I hope you never get any, ever again. I definitely felt insulted.
Martin
@zhena gogolia: Yeah, more or less. Note, we had policies during Trump 1 that if ICE shows up, you lock the door and don’t let them in, and call legal counsel to instruct you on what to do. It can be as simple as that.
But universities (particularly private ones) have two swords dangling over them – donors and that revenue stream (which now includes federal grants, something we never thought would be politicized because it’s so counterproductive to do so), and faculty. Without faculty, the place shuts down. So it doesn’t really matter how you get there – strike, arrest, etc. Faculty have power, but they rarely use it. Drove me nuts as an administrator – they expected me to die on that hill and I’d have to constantly tell them, ‘bud, nobody is going to miss me – but the place can’t function without you’.
Martin
@Glory b: Man, she looks a lot younger than 45.
Martin
@bbleh: Public backlash won’t matter to the folks in the executive. Authoritarians don’t care about public opinion – that’s sort of the point.
It’ll matter to member of congress that still care about the next election so it can help there. But they’re probably fucked either way on that one, so don’t expect much.
This crew cares about safety and money, and if you aren’t attacking those in a real and sustained manner, you won’t get anywhere.
There is a good observation that elected Republicans constantly betray their own principles because they are afraid of Republican voters, and elected Democrats constantly betray their own principles because they are also afraid of Republican voters. Nobody is afraid of Democratic voters.
mrmoshpotato
@JoyceH:
Will Dump’s shot and beaten corpse be there? ala Mussolini, to piss on?
Gloria DryGarden
@Glory b: she looks 25 to me, I was shocked when I realized she’s 45. I’m so grateful for her presence in congress.
evodevo
@Nukular Biskits:
KY also – Redbud winter, then Dogwood Winter…then summer. (Spring, periodically interrupted by below freezing nights and 40 degree days…)
Jay
@evodevo:
Lucky you, here we have the no see-ums, blackflies, mosquitos, deer flies, horseflies, elk flies and then the snow flies as seasons.
Sister Golden Bear
@RevRick: Thank you.
Guys you can still shit talk about other men, but maybe do it a bit more creatively?
Besides, as Betty White said, pussies can take a pounding, it’s balls that are delicate and weak.
RevRick
@Sister Golden Bear: In the Old Testament men often sealed an agreement by “placing their hand on the other man’s thigh.” But that’s a euphemism which means they grabbed each other by the balls. It was a pledge based on maximum mutual vulnerability.
frosty
@YY_Sima Qian:
Here’s excerpts from the Banner article:
Geminid
@Gloria DryGarden: A late response: Mistermix encourages participation, so you ought to be able to get on his blog if you keep trying.
Geminid
@YY_Sima Qian: Some of Germany’s Jewish scientists and other academics ended up in Turkiye. Kemal Ataturk welcomed them and their contribution to his efforts to build up Turkiye’s educational system, plus he did not mind giving the “Austrian Corporal” a thumb in the eye.
Hitler was a big admirer of Kemal Ataturk because of how he and the Turks ran rhe British and French out of Constantinople, but the respect was never reciprocated.