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Ice Cream, a Mattresses, and Half a Day of Work

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I mostly played hooky today, and that’s how i spent my day.  In no particular order (except for my excitement level).

Has anyone else tried jemi’s  jeni’s ice cream?  I stopped by one of my favorite little stores this afternoon to pick up some fresh-baked ciabatta, and the fellow went to the back to check and then came out to tell me they won’t have it again until Thursday.

While I was waiting for him to come back out I was aimlessly looking at their small freezer case, so after he gave me the bad news I asked if he had ever tried the ice cream that was in the case.   He asked what flavor I was thinking of and I said mint chocolate chip.   He said had never tried that flavor, but he became quite animated and said that jemi’s is one of the best ice creams in the country and that people seem very excited to know that the store carried it.

I asked what his favorite flavor was, and the next thing you know I was walking out with “sweet cream” and “darkest chocolate”.  Is it wrong that I can tell you that they are both very good?  Haagen Diaz has been my go to for years, but this beats that by a mile.  Anyone else a fan of ice cream?

I have had a way too soft mattress on my daybed for the past 7 years, and today I went mattress shopping and ordered a new mattress.  It sounds like about a 2 week wait.  High hopes and all that.

I didn’t really get started working until 2 or 3 o’clock this afternoon, so I guess I’d have to say that it was a day filled with self-indulgence.  I’m sure I deserved it.

Oh, and when I got back from all of the above, I discovered that my little Henry had somehow broken into the tin where I keep his dog food (brand new bag arrived last week).  He had pulled the tin over and probably 4 pounds had spilled out.  Bad Henry.  For dinner he got (literally) 3 pieces of kibble.

Can you spot the dog with the distended tummy?

I woke him from his nap by taking his picture.
Takes a lot of energy to digest that much food!

Open thread.

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  1. 1.

    WaterGirl

    John’s house as the sidebar pic today looks very picturesque, doesn’t it?  So calm and peaceful, just like Cole!

  3. 3.

    JML

    Jemi’s?

    Do you mean Jeni’s Splendid Ice Cream? Because that stuff is amazing. Darkest Chocolate plus the Salted Caramel is a favorite combo.

  6. 6.

    frosty

    @WaterGirl: I thought it was a good sidebar pic for his homecoming. We need to have him take a new one with the trees all grown up.

  7. 7.

    Ramalama

    Trader Joe’s has a coffee or mocha ice cream that’s delish. My fav ice cream is the coffee Oreo at a shop called JP Licks in Boston / Jamaica Plain. And also Christina’s in Central square in Cambridge MA.

    I love Ben & Jerry’s mint chocolate cookie. Their ice cream is sold in Canada but unfortunately no mint chocolate cookie… at least not in Quebec.

    omg I need to try that new ice cream.

  9. 9.

    catclub

    and then came out to tell me they won’t have it again until Thursday.

    I blame tariffs.

  10. 10.

    RevRick

    When you reach a certain age, life revolves around various medical appointments. I saw a podiatrist on Monday, MrsRev started therapy for mobility issues, she suffers from a pain in the ass called MrRev. Later this month I go to a plastic surgeon for a preliminary evaluation for the MOHS surgery I will have in June for the squamous cell carcinoma on my thumb. Then there’s a return trip to the podiatrist, and routine blood work.
    Tomorrow, I break up this routine with my participation in a Community of Practice, where we’re studying Preaching in the Purple Zone, and Saturday morning our Climate Hope Affiliate gets down to business, getting meetings with our federal legislators and planning a community educational event. Tuesday mornings I spend with some local Lutheran clergy to discuss the pericope lessons from the Lectionary. As the resident Calvinist, I remind them of the political context and the justice issues.

    For entertainment, we are currently watching Andor, Daredevil Born Again, and Handmaid’s Tale. Nothing like dystopian stories to brighten the mood.

  12. 12.

    Chetan Murthy

    @Ramalama: Oh man, JP Licks.  Or, erm, I think that takes me back.  In the early noughties Cambridge had a -serious- ice cream parlor scene.  Like, it was the thing to do after movies or concerts.  Great stuff, great great stuff.

  13. 13.

    Sure Lurkalot

    It’s near impossible to find old time chocolate chip ice cream…vanilla with small flecks of chocolate.  It’s either mint, cookie dough or chunks. Most flavors, regardless of brand, have boatloads of stuff in them…candies, fudge swirls, cookies.

    Why? I say yuck. The glory of ice cream is its creamy but icy texture. The best is sort of dry and wet.

    Starting a fight….

  14. 14.

    Ramalama

    @RevRick: Semper ubi sub ubi. It’s the only Latin phrase I remember. My Dad was a monk (before he  left the monastery), and he also taught college Latin. Spoke it regularly in the house.

    I do not ever mix chocolate with fruit.

    i can only eat nuts in savory dishes, never desserts.

  20. 20.

    Omnes Omnibus

    I used to get Jeni’s at the North Market in back when she was starting out.  Good stuff.  There was a listeria thing back in in 2015 or so, but I am sure they got that sorted out.

  21. 21.

    West of the Rockies

    Something that occurred to me today… Musk is this term’s Kushner, an ill-prepared, odd-looking, arrogant money-pig who is given far too much leeway and power to muck things up.

    Tragically, Miller is (once more) this term’s Miller.

  24. 24.

    mrmoshpotato

    I stopped by one of my favorite little stores this afternoon to pick up some fresh-baked ciabatta, and the fellow went to the back to check and then came out to tell me they won’t have it again until Thursday.

    I was jonesing for some ciabatta one night.  Looked up a recipe and was surprised at how long it takes from start to fimish.

  27. 27.

    NotMax

    Maybe once a year will buy ice cream. When I do, on the lookout for the rarely encountered pistachio.

  29. 29.

    AJ of the Mustard Search and Rescue Team

    McConnell’s or bust

    Sea salt cream and cookies flavor, also enjoyed the new See’s candy collab, specifically the Banana one. The Vanilla something See’s crossover flavor I felt like was full of almond husks, like little sheets of cellulose, almost coconutty. I was disappoint.

  30. 30.

    Redshift

    We went to Could Stone Creamery tonight after some pre-tariff stocking up at Costco. I almost always get their Mint Mint Chocolate Chocolate Chip sundae – mint ice cream with chocolate chips, fudge sauce, and a brownie. I’m a sucker for sugar overload.

  33. 33.

    Layer8Problem

    The first place and one of the few places I ever had malt vanilla ice cream was Herrell’s in Harvard Square.  I think they had malt chocolate as well.  If I could score any of that again . . .

  34. 34.

    Jay

    Here in Vancouver/LML, we are blessed with gelato shops.

    The one nearest us has only 277 flavours.

  36. 36.

    Redshift

    @Gin & Tonic: year, first place I ever saw do it, though it was the one in Providence for me. I was hanging out with some friends over night in college, and they said “her, you want to get ice cream?” I said sure, where? (We had several good places in New Haven.) They said, “Providence.”

    Turns out one of them had a car. It was a fun road trip, and worth the drive.

  38. 38.

    Layer8Problem

    @Jay:

    We’re talking actual chocolate malted milk shake here, not a Frosty?  I must pay a visit.

  39. 39.

    Chetan Murthy

    @Gin & Tonic: In grad school at Cornell (late 80s), my classmates who went to Hahvahd and MIT would regale us with tales of the fancy/fancy ice cream palaces of Cambridge.  Sigh.  The glory days of Boston ice cream.

  41. 41.

    prostratedragon

    Nothing in my ice cream, except for black walnut or the very rare decent spumoni. Apple pie should be with either vanilla ice cream or plain whole milk yogurt, though.

    @NotMax:

    That’s the Henry.

  47. 47.

    They Call Me Noni

    @Jay: I can’t even remember the last time I had a malt and they are so good.  Favorite ice cream is chocolate ganache Private Selection, which is the Kroger premium brand.  It is surprisingly good.

  50. 50.

    Layer8Problem

    @Jay:  I ain’t no Alexander Pope with the rhyming and the meter and like that.  I did close a network trouble ticket with a haiku once.

  54. 54.

    Redshift

    Last week I visited friends in Baltimore and we went for Afghan food, as we often do. Then vanilla ice cream with cardamom, dates, figs, and mango, yum!

  55. 55.

    Marc

    I left Cambridge/Boston for good a bit over 40 years ago and I still remember Steve’s/Herrell’s, Christina’s, JP Licks.  And, the Friendly’s Awful-Awful.  Italian ice and frozen custard on the road to Revere Beach.

    I mustn’t forget, Fred’s Ice Cream (RIP) in Harvard Square that got firebombed by the owner of the Baskin-Robbins two doors down in 1975, AKA the Cambridge Ice Cream War.

  56. 56.

    RaflW

    OK. This is brilliance. I give it an eleven on a 10 point scale:

    Sen. Lemon Gogurt‬ @ugarles.bsky.social‬

    the president’s hostility to energy star is believed to trace to his opposition to low-flow showerheads, a matter of great concern as he is the first president in the modern era who can not reach his own asshole with a cloth from a standing position.

  57. 57.

    The Audacity of Krope

    @frosty: I don’t mind the mint, personally, but the chip therein is my least preferred form of chocolate. Grasshopper ice cream is heaven.

    Sweet cream, though? Never heard of this flavor but one of my roomies has been experimenting with making ice cream and gave me some unflavored ice cream which was phenomenal. I wonder if this is what sweet cream means?

  58. 58.

    RaflW

    OMG ouch.

    ‪Philip Bump‬ @pbump.com‬

    I feel like a lot of people don’t understand that the military is dropping planes into the ocean to commemorate the 50th anniversary of the fall of Saigon.

    (If folks don’t know, a second jet fell of an aircraft carrier. My thought on that “To lose one $60 million jet, Mr. Hegseth, may be regarded as a misfortune; to lose two looks like carelessness.”)

  59. 59.

    The Audacity of Krope

    @Omnes Omnibus: Apple crisp requires cheddar.

    Okay, Mr. No Mayo on Burgers. You can take your cheesy apples and go eat them over there.

  60. 60.

    The Audacity of Krope

    @RaflW: I can’t even fathom the level of mismanagement that would lead to rapid consecutive fighter jet losses in presumably peaceful waters.

  61. 61.

    Layer8Problem

    @Jay:  Oh yeah, for sure, but my wit fails me from exhaustion.  One of these bright folks can give it a shot.  Maybe Bupalos?

  63. 63.

    The Audacity of Krope

    @Omnes Omnibus: I’ll go ahead and assume that the apples themselves are starting with a different spice pallet than I usually associate with apple crisp, cuz….

    Or otherwise maybe Wisconsin has more cheese than it has reasonable uses for.

  64. 64.

    Jay

    @The Audacity of Krope:

    They aren’t. Despite DJTdiot saying the Houthi’s have caved, they have not and are still shooting at shipping. They have a bunch of big assed missiles, some converted Soviet Era stocks, some Iranian.

    When there is an “incoming alert”, the ship has as little as 7 seconds to tie things down and take evasive actions.

    If you are moving a plane when this happens, overboard.

    Kinda like all the Haulover Inlet vids on you tube.

  67. 67.

    randy khan

    My wife and I are big fans of Talenti, particularly the sorbet.  She looooves the coffee sorbet and binge-bought five containers the last time she found it at the supermarket.  We also go for the mango, raspberry and chocolate (sorbet, not ice cream, because the sorbet is somehow about 110% dark chocolate, but sadly it’s become very had to find).

    And you can reuse the containers for leftover soup.

  68. 68.

    frosty

    @Gin & Tonic: ​Steve’s Ice Cream!! There was one in College Park MD when we were living there in the 80s. Mix-ins! “Into the very flesh of the scoop!”
    Steve’s is how we got our mutt to like car rides. We’d go there, get a scoop for ourselves and let her lick out the cup. After a few trips she was ready to leap into the car.​

  69. 69.

    frosty

    @Redshift:The Helmand is still there? Wonderful! We used to go every now and then but I haven’t been back since we moved to the other side of the Mason-Dixon Line.

  70. 70.

    The Audacity of Krope

    @Jay: I won’t go out of my way; but if I run into it in the wild, I’ll give it due consideration.

  72. 72.

    KrackenJack

    @mrmoshpotato: ​
     I’ve been doing sourdough English muffins with the discard from my weekly starter feedings. They are good – it’s a King Arthur Flour recipe – but not the craggy Thomas’ style that I’m looking for. So my next attempt will be a sourdough ciabatta done as a skillet muffin. Should be a learning experience, as they say. Maurizio Leo’s ciabbata recipe takes 9 hours, but I’m going to let it bulk ferment overnight in the fridge.

  74. 74.

    Another Scott

    @RaflW: It happens.

    What surprised me when this happened in 2022 is that the Navy has equipment to recover the planes pretty quickly.

    NAPLES, Italy –
    On Aug. 3, [2022] the U.S. Navy successfully recovered the F/A-18E Super Hornet aircraft assigned to Carrier Air Wing (CVW 1), embarked aboard USS Harry S. Truman (CVN 75) that blew overboard due to unexpected heavy weather in the Mediterranean Sea July 8, 2022.

    The aircraft was recovered from a depth of approximately 9,500 feet by a team from Task Force (CTF) 68, Naval Sea Systems Command’s Supervisor of Salvage and Diving (SUPSALV), Harry S. Truman, Naval Strike Fighter Wing Atlantic, and U.S. Sixth Fleet embarked on the multi-purpose construction vessel (MPV) Everest.

    “Inherent to Task Force 68 is our ability to adapt to any mission set – we can rapidly mobilize and deploy scalable command, control, and communications, in order to seamlessly integrate and provide forward command and control when and where needed,” said CTF 68 Commodore, Capt. Geoffrey Townsend.

    The aircraft was recovered using a CURV-21 remotely operated vehicle to attach specialized rigging and lift lines to the aircraft. A lifting hook was attached to the rigging to raise the aircraft to the surface and hoist it aboard Everest.

    “The rapid response of the combined team, including SUPSALV and Phoenix International personnel, allowed us to conduct safe recovery operations within 27 days of the incident,” said Lt. Cmdr. Miguel Lewis, U.S. Sixth Fleet salvage officer. “Our task tailored team operated safely and efficiently to meet the timeline. The search and recovery took less than 24 hours, a true testament to the team’s dedication and capability.”

    The recovery efforts demonstrate the U.S. Navy’s capabilities to conduct deep-water search and recovery operations world-wide.

    The aircraft was delivered to a nearby military installation where it will be transported to the United States.

    I ordered something from China on Amazon at the end of March that still isn’t here (probably tied up with the tariffs thing, got a refund tonight). And, on the other hand, the Navy can rescue a jet from 9500 feet underwater in less than a month. Sometimes humans make it look easy…

    Best wishes,
    Scott.

  75. 75.

    prostratedragon

    Gotta know when to foldem:

    Was just half listening to this report on CNN on airplane safety issues and I heard the word “extension cord” so I changed the channel. I’m not gonna let this country drive me crazy.

  76. 76.

    Origuy

    In the San Francisco area, one of the premium ice cream brands is Humphry Slocombe. They have several cone stores in the Bay Area and more places that sell by the pint. They are noted for their original flavors, in particular Vietnamese Coffee and Secret Breakfast, which is whiskey flavored ice cream with cornflakes mixed in.

  77. 77.

    Jay

    @Another Scott:

    the Navy can rescue a jet from 9500 feet underwater in less than a month. Sometimes humans make it look easy…

    Navy recovery ships were with the fleet at the time, in friendly waters.

    The aircraft was scrapped, not even parted out, nothing was recoverable.

    The mission was undertaken to just prevent others from getting their hands on it.

    What’s the USMC’s term for “Copaganda”?

  79. 79.

    Jay

    Today, we got drones. 167 for a 230 man company. Training up for a few weeks, starting tomorrow, some FPV’s, some Suicide drones, some  bomber drones, some FO drones.

    The “kids” are excited.

  80. 80.

    sab

    @KrackenJack: James Beard had a pretty good recipe for English Muffin Bread that you “bake” in the microwave, so it is still pretty raw, and thus perfect for toast. With all the holes you’d hope for to soak up butter.

  82. 82.

    sab

    @Jay: I have been telling my friends and family in Ohio that you all are serious. My nephew is married to a Canadian with Canadian family and Canadian Army training so they are not surprised. But everyone else is shocked. Sympathetic but shocked.

    Why shocked? The Canadian military has been there with every military event with the UK and US since forever. Blowing off that particular ally (long border there) doesn’t make sense, but nothing Trump does makes sense outside of his tiny troubled mind.

  85. 85.

    different-church-lady

    @Chetan Murthy: ​

    Cambridge had a -serious- ice cream parlor scene.

    Herrell’s and Uncle Bunny’s. I really miss the smoosh-ins at Herrell’s.

  86. 86.

    Jay

    @sab:

    Sadly, it’s a common meme on the Internet and you tube Historians.

    The Canadian’s did what?

    Yes, we won the battle of Ypres and took Vimy Ridge, after defending it against gas attacks that caused everybody else into retreat. When nobody else could. After that, we were the “First to Fight” in every WWI battle as stormtroopers.

    Just like the Aussie’s and Kiwi’s in WWII are ignored, (Kokota trail, Port Morseby) so are we, other than the Netherlands. They still remember us there.

    Did you know that we kept the Soviets from sweeping through Denmark and Norway at the end of WWII.

    Or Korea. Or Bosnia, or Kandahar, or when your asses had to be saved in Iraq, or Rwanda.

    USA,USA,USA,USA, you would be speaking German, ruZZian or Japanese if it weren’t for us.

    Sadly now, your choices are ruZZian or Chinese. Mandarin is the language of the Autocracy, Cantonese is the language of trade.

  89. 89.

    different-church-lady

    @Jay: …some Suicide drones…

    How does that work? Does the operator swallow a cyanide pill after crashing the thing?

  92. 92.

    sab

    @different-church-lady: My guess is suicide drones are unmanned (since they are drones) that are not expected to return from their mission. Sort of (unmanned) kamikazes.

    ETA Some drones observe and photograph. Other drones blow things up.

  94. 94.

    Jay

    @different-church-lady:

    Hits the target, blows up. Some can loiter, some go into ambush on the ground and wait. The winged ones are “loiters” as they are basically RC Aircraft, the “copter” can loiter, or they can just land in a field, and wait until their camera picks up a target.

    It’s basically a ramming attack with a variety of HE.

  95. 95.

    sab

    @Jay: Last war US fought with Canada was 1812, and we vastly outnumbered you and yet it was a tie.

  97. 97.

    different-church-lady

    @sab: Yeah, well that was only because we were using all the cannon at a concert…

  99. 99.

    sab

    @Jay: Thank you. I had not known of those.

    No wonder my Scottish Canadian ancestors were so furious when their child (my great-grandmother) married the son of Irish immigrants to America. I thought it was just about religion.

  101. 101.

    Jay

    @sab: part of the really stupid part about the whole 51’st State is Canada has memory, and history.

  103. 103.

    sab

    @Jay: We don’t. We were taught about Dolly Madison when the White House was burned, but I didn’t learn until college that we had burned Toronto and much of the Ontario peninsula the previous winter. February.  Burning people out of their homes in an Ontario winter!

  104. 104.

    bjacques

    @Jay: thanks! Now I know how to pronounce “Poilievre”.

    From earlier…

    Let be be finale of seem
    And the only Emperor is the Emperor Of Ice Cream

  105. 105.

    sab

    @sab: We were also not taught that Dolly Madison’s father turned Quaker, freed his slaves and moved north to Philadelphia. And her goal in life was to move back South and own slaves again. A horrible person.

  106. 106.

    NotMax

    @sab

    And what Dolt 47 calls “an artificial border” was set by a treaty negotiated during the Polk administration, said treaty approved by Congressional vote.

  108. 108.

    Keith P.

    I bought some fru-fru Italian-made gelato machine last year for a crazy amount of money, and it actually does make super-smooth ice cream – actually better than Haagen Dazs (I had another one that also had a built-in freezer that wasn’t quite this good).  I just hate making base because I hit a streak where all my ice cream tasted eggy (from overheating)

  109. 109.

    sab

    @Jay: BBC was very sardonic in their coverage of the Carney Trump meeting. Straight-faced but sneering. I wish you all could clobber us into common sense without so much damage to yourselves.

  110. 110.

    sab

    @NotMax: US Supreme Court decided everything that limits our unitary executive is artificial. It is now the law (until Trump decides otherwise. But why would he?)

  111. 111.

    Jay

    @bjacques:

    can’t do ice cream any more. T’s cancer, no dairy. We used to make ice cream. cantelope, mango.

    kinda made the mistake one time of adding in Devon Cream.

    it was good, don’t get me wrong,  but I think we both had heart attacks that night.

  112. 112.

    sab

    In Ohio here. I saw a teenager today walking along with a pet drone hovering  over and behind him.  About eight feet up and about ten feet back, just following along behind him as he walked down a city sidewalk. Cute but weird.

  113. 113.

    sab

    @Jay: I am lactose intolerant. Used to be mildly so. Old age made me very very so.

    ETA I could never handle ice cream. Now I can’t even handle sherbet or cream in my tea or coffee.

  114. 114.

    Jay

    @sab:

    the meeting was “performa”. Nothing of substance was going to be done, Carny made mouth noises about the CPATPP, the only anti China trade org, 14 Nations, that the US will never be allowed to join because you were total assholes under Obama, TPP1 and worse under DJTidiot 45, that no, we don’t wants you in our Club, ever.

    Gave him what we gave him last time. Nothing

    and we’re very polite about the fuck you.

  116. 116.

    Jay

    @sab:

    retail drones can follow a GPS path, autonomously, or can “thether” to the controller.

    these are not expensive drones.

  117. 117.

    Ramalama

    @sab:

    @Jay:

    Did you guys see Canadian journalist Rosemary Barton interview John Bolton? She asked him about what that meant in the US that Mark Carney had decreed that Canada’s longstanding relationship with the US was over, and Mr. Mustache poo-poohed her, saying that the majority of the 350 M Americans didn’t agree with Trump’s 51st state quip. And then she asked again saying that Mark Carney had said it’s over…and either he refused to believe it or didn’t catch what Canada’s actual position is now.

    I am awake in the wee hours because I want ice cream, woke up wanting it, and can’t get what I want. Thanks Obama.

  118. 118.

    Rusty

    All this talk of ice cream brought back memories of growing up in rural upstate New York near Utica.  On the rare occasions we went out for dinner, we drove to the Howard Johnsons near the thru-way, and the kids meals came with ice cream for desert.  Peppermint stick in a dish, with a cone hat and candies for eyes and a nose.  (I was also partial to the fried clam dinner).

  119. 119.

    Jay

    @Ramalama:

    We were at 68,000 when DjTdiot did his first 51st bs

    we are now at 122,000, 244,000 by September.

    y’all lost with NATO support to 15,000 Talibs

     

    And we have NATO support, you pissed it all away.

  120. 120.

    columbusqueen

    Jeni’s rules. I was an early customer from the days when she just had a booth at the North Matket. Can’t indulge too often with my diabetes,  but when I do, wow.

  121. 121.

    Jay

    I really can’t fully express the anger happening here.

    Quebec wanted to separate, okay, we vote.

    but now, Canada might not be a safe space for Americans.

    At all.

  122. 122.

    Gloria DryGarden

    @Jay: there’s a lot of stuff not covered in history classes in k-12, in USA. I didn’t know about any of that. Thank you.

  125. 125.

    What Have the Romans Ever Done for Us?

    @They Call Me Noni: Yeah the best you can do these days is a blend in with malted milk balls.

    Here in the DC area ice cream parlors are nigh on extinct. But then they don’t seem super common anywhere these days. Growing up on the West side of Grand Rapids there was a place within walking distance from my house on the corner of Richmond and Alpine that did it all – malteds, ice cream sodas, ALL the sundaes.

    We have two places that do gelato but a place that does an ice cream sundae much less something like a malted or soda is like finding a needle in a haystack.

  126. 126.

    Princess

    Watergirl, do you mean Jemi’s or Jeni’s, from Columbus OH? I’ve had the latter and it is truly spectacular. Even better, the first time I tried a cone, I bought their cookbook. The recipes are amazing and work really well in a chiller ice cream maker.  She uses a few tablespoons of cream cheese as a replacement for all the weird stabilizers and thickeners on the side of the container so no complicated custards with egg yolks or anything. Highly recommended.

    Link

  128. 128.

    Princess

    @RaflW: I don’t ever recall a single jet falling off an aircraft carrier, far less two. Am I wrong?

    I also don’t ever recall an air craft control tower losing sight and contact with planes for a minute and a half and all the controllers taking sick leave as happened at Newark.

    Could either of these be security related?

    Alternatively, has anyone checked if there is a large cat somewhere in the vicinity of the aircraft carriers?

  129. 129.

    Princess

    @sab: I low-key think Carney was alluding that when he waved his hand around and spoke of the White House as a place you can’t buy. I felt like “but we could burn it down again for you,” was under his breath.

  131. 131.

    What Have the Romans Ever Done for Us?

    @Princess: Carney was wrong though Trump is busy selling a lot of the things that “can’t be bought”…half suspect they’re going to shut down the National Gallery and Smithsonian museums so Trump can take his pick and auction the rest of to our oligarchs.

  133. 133.

    Princess

    @Ramalama: I’m not surprised Bolton doesn’t get it. I don’t think most Americans get what’s going on. There’s a whole big world out there that is not the US.

    My best guess is— my most optimistic hope — is that the US just gets less and less powerful by degrees — poorer, less influential, less appealing, older, smaller, weaker. Kind of like what happened with Japan, another place that was an economic powerhouse and has seen that diminish, in part due to hypernationalism and inward-focus. I think that’s the world’s best case scenario.

    The whole thing with India and Pakistan is…interesting. It’s the first time we’ve faced a crisis like this without the US — the US completely opting out of any kind of role or brokerage or influence. I wonder how we’ll do.

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    no body no name

    @Princess:

    Most American’s get that there is a whole world out there but it is not their priority.  American’s first priorities are internal.  Both that the economic system works for their class and that the country is dominated by and reflect their cultural values.

    This country works for the top 20% of us and nobody else.  And unless we are willing to talk about the top 20% and reigning all of them in and not just the 1% we are going to get fascism good and proper.

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    What Have the Romans Ever Done for Us?

    @no body no name: Srsly? Most of the top 20% probably voted for Harris. Top 17% have incomes between $100 and $150k. Even the top 5% with incomes of $300k-$500k have more in common with the folks at the median than they do with someone like Elon Musk. They don’t hold much if any more sway over politics than someone at the median. It’s all about how the super rich pervert the system – lumping the upper middle class in with the super rich is a distraction that divides people with common interests from one another.

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    terraformer

    I was introduced to the wonders of frozen custard when I moved to WI 15 years ago or so. Originally from the South, I had no idea – and I see places like Dairy Queen here and ask myself how such a place can exist alongside custard places

    As for mattresses, I once stayed in a hotel in KY – home of Tempur-Pedic mattresses – that had those in the rooms. Loved it so much we bought two twin XLs as a King and have never looked back since – love them!

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    WaterGirl

    @mrmoshpotato: Yeah, that’s one bread that I would rather buy than make.  And their’s is the best I’ve ever had, so there’s no contest.

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    KayInMD (formerly Kay (not the front-pager))

    Popping in way late to say that my son makes ice cream. There was a whole article about him and his ice cream/restaurant last summer in DC’s Eater magazine. And Jeni’s ice cream is just about the only ice cream he’ll eat that he didn’t make himself.

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    Chris T.

    One of my favorite ice cream places was Tucker’s in Alameda (on the SF Bay). I am pretty sure the original owners are long gone and not sure if the new ones still practice careful selection of actual fresh ingredients from actual farms up in Marin and Sonoma and the like, though.

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    Chris T.

    @RaflW:

    (If folks don’t know, a second jet fell of an aircraft carrier. My thought on that “To lose one $60 million jet, Mr. Hegseth, may be regarded as a misfortune; to lose two looks like carelessness.”)

    I keep telling people what you get when you kick out DEI hiring in favor of DUI hiring. Nobody listens.

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    Madam Zorba

    I’m a long time lurker, but I lived in Memphis for almost 30 years, and moved to Pensacola in 2017. Memphis has a wonderful ice cream store called La Michoacana on 4091 Summer Ave. It has a Sweet Corn ice cream that sounds weird is but is amazing. The Tres Leches, and German flavors are also wonderful.

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    Ramalama

    @Madam Zorba: So deep discussions about ice cream are what draw you out?

    Interesting… corn ice cream, though?

    I’ll put that up with Pine Soda (sold at a local foodie shop here in the Laurentian mountains Quebec – not sure where else). It tastes like carbonated pine cones. Not bad. Interesting. But have I purchased another bottle after 12 years? No I have not.

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    Ph64n

    @WaterGirl: It’s a cursive “n” after a cursive “e.”

    I googled ‘Jeni’s Splendid Ice Cream,’ they have a store locator, and was surprised to see how many outlets carry it in Urbana-Champaign.  Alas, none have the Double Chocolate in stock.

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    RaflW

    @Another Scott: I would think that’s largely to prevent anyone else from grabbing the plane to get some hands-on time with the (now heavily salted) tech.

    Maybe the airframe could be salvaged for some parts, but I’m gonna guess the big bucks are in the engines, weapons systems and avionics, all of which would not fare well after a month soaking in seawater. And even the parts would probably have some down the road corrosion risk.

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