Biden acknowledges his responsibility for Trump’s victory last November
— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar.com) May 8, 2025 at 12:48 PM
A little treat, to wrap up a busy week. I still miss Joe, but it’s good to see him looking so well.
Joy Behar: "Why is [Trump] so fixated on you?"
Joe Biden: "I beat him."
Asked about Trump’s saying any Biden pardons or other elements signed by an autopen are void and vacant, Biden says,
“Oh, he’s vacant.”— Isaac Dovere (@isaacdovere.bsky.social) May 8, 2025 at 11:27 AM
Biden on The View today said he’s not surprised that Kamala Harris lost to Trump, citing the sexist and racist attacks against her
— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar.com) May 8, 2025 at 12:39 PM
Sidebar…
Pres Biden last night on BBC: “Every generation has to fight to maintain democracy. We’ve done it well for 80 years. I’m worried there’s a loss of understanding of the consequences of that.” www.mediaite.com/news/biden-b…
— Dean Obeidallah (@deanobeidallah.bsky.social) May 7, 2025 at 7:59 AM
Baud
Yep. That generation is gone. Bad people are feeling frisky again.
Marie de Gournay
God above, I hope he lives to a healthy 120 with all his faculties. The best revenge is a life well lived.
Baud
@Marie de Gournay:
Biden 2028!
schrodingers_cat
Wow he seems to have completely recovered from the Alzheimer’s and Parkinson’s, a double miracle. Fuck you to everyone who pushed him out. Podbros and NP included and take Ezra Broder Klein with you along with the editorial board of the Vichy Times.
Baud
@schrodingers_cat:
First miracle of the Chicago Pope.
schrodingers_cat
@Baud: Yeah the generation that fought WWII and gave India its independence is mostly dead or dying and we have malevolent morons ruling us (and India)
Raoul Paste
@Baud: Well, Biden is Catholic after all. It would be great if he receives an audience before the orange menace
comrade scotts agenda of rage
@schrodingers_cat:
Roger that. And don’t forget the House and Senate Dems who could have easily stfu about it publicly.
Baud
@Raoul Paste:
Biden, Obama, and the Pope should attend a White Sox game together.
comrade scotts agenda of rage
@Baud:
I don’t think even the three of them are ready to be crucified.
With apologies to White Sox fans. It sucks to be a fan of a team with a shitty owner, poorly run, etc. Just ask the locals in Denver about the equally craptastic Rockies.
schrodingers_cat
@comrade scotts agenda of rage: Many of them were NP’s mouthpieces, Schiff and Raskin come to mind. When I figured out that NP had to be behind it. You should have seen the attacks I got on here. People were apoplectic. But that was the only conclusion one could draw based on the data available.
And then she confirmed it by giving interviews to any and everyone who would have her. I lost all my respect for her during that episode.
Dorothy A. Winsor
David Souter died.
SiubhanDuinne
@Dorothy A. Winsor:
Just posted that downstairs and came up here to do the same. RIP.
zhena gogolia
@Dorothy A. Winsor: A great man.
I can’t even watch the videos of Biden above. What stupidity, what stupidity, what stupidity is ruling this country.
narya
So there’s a quasi-famous hot dog place in Chicago, The Wiener Circle (in a different part of the city than Super Dog), and they posted a picture on FBook of the sign out front of their establishment that says, in Latin, “he has eaten our dogs.” (Canes nostros ipse comedit.)
Melancholy Jaques
@zhena gogolia:
Completely agree.
chemiclord
I really am kinda done with “where are our leaders?” followed by “shut up loser, go back in your hole!”
I get that it’s two different groups of people responsible for each reaction, but for fuck’s sake, if we can’t even get on board with Step A of fighting back, then there is no absolutely no point in quarreling over Step K, like the left on social media really, really wants to do right now.
TONYG
I’ve been saying this for five months: The fact that Donald Trump was elected president in November of 2024 is NOT the fault of Joe Biden or Kamala Harris or the price of eggs. This catastrophe happened because a significant percentage of Americans of voting age are idiots, many of whom are racist, misogynistic, xenophobic assholes. They are the problem. If it wasn’t for them, Trump would be just another bankrupt former crooked businessman and a largely forgotten former “reality TV” star. These assholes voted for him, and now they have him. Almost half of my fellow Americans can go fuck themselves.
laura
@schrodingers_cat: You foul temptress! I bought those Faber Castell pens. They arrive tomorrow. Hope you’re happy.
Rest in peace Justice Souter.
Seeing handsome old President Joe Biden just gives me the urge to kick George Clooney in the nuts.
UncleEbeneezer
@comrade scotts agenda of rage: EVERYONE could’ve STFU about it!!! And did everything in our power to re-center the convo on: policy, economics, threat-of-tariffs, voting rights, abortion, Trump’s criminality, the Insurrection, etc.
That’s the One Weird Trick that just might’ve worked (ignore/dismiss the BS and pivot to our advantage). It’s what Republicans do every damn day. But now we’ll never know because too many even on our side couldn’t resist the feeding frenzy/pile-on.
OGliberal
@TONYG: Exactly, although I’m expecting some folks will yell at you for saying this.
schrodingers_cat
@laura: Mine arrived this morning and they are gorgeous. You won’t regret it. They are lightfast too. My other favorite waterbased markers are Tombow markers but I don’t know whether they are lightfast. I like my 100 set of Crayola Supertips as well
I think you will enjoy them. And thank me later. *ducks
schrodingers_cat
@UncleEbeneezer: They followed the Vichy Times Pied Piper.
schrodingers_cat
@zhena gogolia: I haven’t watched the speech he gave after he stepped down. I can’t.
Formerly disgruntled in Oregon
Can we celebrate Joe Biden without re-litigating June-July’24?
No. We cannot.
They Call Me Noni
@TONYG: Yup. 100%.
schrodingers_cat
@Formerly disgruntled in Oregon: So. I should forgive and forget the people responsible for getting us here. No.
Its not relitigation because those responsible for the travesty of Biden stepping down have not learned much.
Enhanced Voting Techniques
I am amused Biden agreed to an interview with the BBC before the NYT.
RandomMonster
Still rejecting malarkey in 2025.
Baud
@Enhanced Voting Techniques:
I hope that interview never happens.
zhena gogolia
@laura: Hahaha, me too
zhena gogolia
@schrodingers_cat: Me either.
Baud
@schrodingers_cat:
I avoid sad or stressful videos if I can. They’re no good when you don’t have like minded people to share the pain with.
schrodingers_cat
@Baud: Me too. I worked hard to get KH elected made phone calls from India when I was in mourning. Donated, volunteered but I was not surprised at the November result. Racism and misogyny is a potent combination to overcome in less than 100 days.
The white privilege oozing from some valued BJ commenters/frontpagers in the aftermath of the debate was a bit hard to take.
As Comrade Scott likes to point out some people think voting for Barack Obama gives them a get of jail free card for the stunning lack of awareness of their white privilege for life.
bbleh
@Raoul Paste: concur! And it might well happen.
I hope if the Pope DOES give the Orange Guy an audience, it’s a formal one with the Pope seated and no chair for anybody else. Make him stand.
Also since we’re on the Pope, diligent local reporting has uncovered the deep truth! Sox, not Cubs. Gift link: https://share.inquirer.com/qbft9f
dww44
I just read an article over at The Hill titled “Democrats Fume over Biden’s Return to Spotlight.” While that publication has never been a friend to Democrats this article shares the insights of a few former Biden administration insiders, albeit they aren’t any of them household names. Arguments are the same as they were in 2024: he was too old and presented as that and disadvantaged his party by not recognizing that reality. Lots of advice on how he should move forward in a way that allows Democrats to “turn the page.”
schrodingers_cat
@dww44: I want to see the names of these insiders. Not anonymous gossip.
Baud
@dww44:
Thanks for letting us know, but IMHO their opinions don’t matter. Everyone, including Biden, has a right to say and do what they want.
moonbat
@schrodingers_cat: True. This very much has the vibe of the bit with Sir Lancelot at the wedding from Monty Python and the Holy Grail: “Let’s not bicker and argue over who killed who.”
Nope. Sorry. I’m going to be bitter about this til the day I die. Thems the breaks.
Bunter
@TONYG:
And taxes. I’m in a blue state and work in Finance and the number of people in my office who “voted for lower taxes” is appalling. Granted, most of them are white men so yes also to the racism, misogyny, etc. but they’re somehow convinced that this will remain a blue state and they’ll be safe. The stupidest part is the majority of them aren’t well enough off to benefit from the lower tax rates. Jackasses.
AWOL
@TONYG:
Half? Half? You adorable little optimist, you.
Sixty-eight percent. The fuckers who voted for the criminal rapist (33 percent) and the 35 percent (sans the handful here and there who were gerrymandered or intimidated out of voting) are Trump supporters or apathetic to the death of democracy and reason.
Seven out of ten US citizens are morons, racists, racists, and just good ol’ pieces of human fecal matter.
Josie
@TONYG:
This is the truth and was a great disappointment to me. I had not realized how widespread the racism and misogyny is in this country. I hope that, by the time this administration is finished, enough people will have grown up to bring us back from the brink.
Raoul Paste
@moonbat: “ Let’s not bicker and argue about who killed who…”
That line works in so many situations. No wonder it’s a classic.
ExPatExDem
Yes, Joe. You boned America 6 ways to Sunday when you decided to seek a second term in your 80s then sounded like you wandered out of a nursing home at the first debate.
Gaza and Trump 47 are your presidential legacy.
gvg
Our sides polititians cannot say things like “a lot of Americans are racist, sexist and pig ignorant about how things really work. They are also so spoiled by the good life they have built by our predecessors hard work and sacrifices, not to mention knowledge, that they have unreasonable expectations. As a result they have picked not only a stupid con man for President, but a bunch of simiular morons with no honor for Congress and too many other state offices. The pickle we find ourselves in is the citizens fault. Go get an education. That is more important than gun rights or taxes. Even if it’s hard to get, you have to learn, and it’s not all school learning. Learn where all the money comes from and goes and why, and what happened before it was given out (invested). Also learn to care about lies more than entertainment, Dammit!’
Nobody who is running or officially associated with a party of even sort of associated with someone, can say that. But we can here. I think we already agree on this mostly. The problem is solving it seems so big and overwelming that we can’t agree how to get started on solving it so we fuss at each other and don’t do anything and people get tired of the argument. We also worry about offending potential voters which is legitimate. What if we skip over venting and calling them names publically and go into how to fix.
When I was a kid my mothers rule was my room had to be cleaned up every saturday before I could do anything else. I had lots of stuff and was messy and it was just overwelming. I gradually developed a system. Start small. Pick a part of the problem you know, and deal with that, then another part and so on. The very end had the odd ball stuff I wasn’t quite sure about. Sometimes I had to ask about those. I usually made the bed so I had a clean flat surface to start with, then picked out and up all the dirty clothes and gave them to mom, hung up the coats etc. Then picked up the books and put them in a pile and started putting them on the shelves. 1 task at a time. Big conspicous stuff that took up a lot of space was a good starting task to get some room.
Does anyone have some ideas about correcting peoples ignorance? I think some of it will depend on some opportunities based on how long and low the economy goes as it is going to illustrate a bunch of things people should have known but didn’t bother to. We need to be ready to point out the connections. A lot of teaching is state based. Advertising standards usually need to be federal. Critical thinking….
Popular entertainment needs to be enlisted to promote thinking, the way it changed views about drinking and smoking over my lifetime.
Citizen Alan
Librettist
Joey Biden 1-0
Party insiders 0-2
“just win, baby”
Captain C
@Enhanced Voting Techniques: If I were him my minimum conditions for the FTFNYT getting an interview would be a) The Sulzbergers put the paper and its games business into a nonprofit trust dedicated to actually reporting news, a-1) The Sulzbergers subsequently have nothing to do with the FTFNYT or any journalism whatsoever, and b) Joe Kahn and whatever hack is running their op-ed department are fired and also not allowed to work in journalism ever again.
Emily B.
@Bunter: I very much agree that many in blue states—including almost the entire staff of the New York Times—have assumed they will be insulated from the damage that Trump inflicts in redder parts of the country. That sense of security may be slipping away now.
Eural Joiner
@TONYG: after all the complicated social and economic analysis, mathematic breakdowns, and mind-bending structural observations…you are 100% correct. This is why we are here.
Old Man Shadow
@TONYG: Amen. Preach it.
geg6
@comrade scotts agenda of rage:
The Pirates and the Nuttings say hold my beer!
geg6
@narya:
That’s legendary.
ExPatExDem
@Citizen Alan: Wouldn’t I have to do the second one first?
Old Man Shadow
Yes, Joe Biden, history’s greatest monster, forced 77 million Americans to vote for an insane narcissistic dolt and Project 2025 who openly told Americans what they were planning to do.
How dare Joe Biden do that!
Bunter
@Emily B.: Maybe, but not among my coworkers. Tariffs? Pff! ICE? I’m a citizen, not my problem (again, idiots). No FDA, HHS, DOE? I can afford to (fill in the blanks). Ad nauseam. On the other hand, our Hispanic CTO is carrying his birth certificate with him and refused to go to Phoenix on business. But our housekeeper from the Dominican Republic is still all about Trump.
Obviously, it’s a small sample but, god love NYers (City) but we are convinced too often that bad stuff won’t happen to us. Though we are also used to the immense amount of hate from the rest of the country so I think there’s a bit of “we’ll survive since we always do” involved.
pajaro
It was good to see Biden sounding and looking well. I hope he has a wonderful retirement. I don’t think he should blame himself for Trump’s victory, and I’m glad that, as far as the interviews are concerned, he doesn’t.
He’s a decent man. His ability to have overcome the losses of loved ones and fashion a productive and meaningful life is, in my opinion, completely admirable. I wish him the best.
Shakti
@Bunter: They’re voting their aspirational tax bracket which they then hope to lower. It’s like all these incels who are angry they’re not been given a harem of 10/10 virgin models, when they’re married.
@schrodingers_cat: I always felt that line was disingenuous trash given the inexplicable Reagan worship and Trump’s neurological and physical health issues.
Melancholy Jaques
@Formerly disgruntled in Oregon:
We can, but some don’t want to. Wish we all would, though. We’re going to need everybody for the midterms.
Melancholy Jaques
@TONYG:
I agree with you & it’s the big story that the political media will never tell because it is an iron law of political media that Americans are the kindest, warmest, bravest, most wonderful human beings on the face of the earth.
The drum I kept beating back in 2016 was that they missed the story by focusing on Trump beating Hillary Clinton, which they celebrated because they hate her. The big story then was that Trump beat all the other Republicans without even having a real campaign. He did it because the racist, misogynistic, xenophobic assholes could see that he was the genuine article, just like them.
lowtechcyclist
What’s with the OP? Is anyone else seeing a sequence of BlueSky icons, each one taking up half their computer screen, starting with a huge, blurry closeup of Aaron Rupar?
ETA: It seems to have fixed itself, but damn, that was weird.
trollhattan
@lowtechcyclist:
Bluesky is ocked-blay at ork-way for me. I get empty frames.
Mind, work does have their own Twitter, Facebook and Insta accounts even after Twitter done got broked and the others are lurid open pit data mines, but nobody asked me.
trollhattan
@Melancholy Jaques:
At some point the inevitable moving on will occur but there are evidently still debts needing payback even as this is obviously not a joint at which that can possibly occur. Read the fucking room seems apt.
Bill Arnold
@ExPatExDem:
Out of curiosity, did you vote for Kamala Harris?
(You called her a neocon at one point, which is often a tell.)
CaseyL
“Re-litigating” anything is useful only if it results in a better understanding of what happened, and how to prevent the same thing happening again.
Which we – “we” meaning everyone from BJers to Democrats to progressives – are plain incapable of doing. Because the truth is awful, and the truth is that US voters are idiots. Sexist, racist, lazy, malicious, belligerently ignorant idiots on the Right; and self-righteous, shallow thinking, thin-skinned idiots on the Left.
We – “we” meaning everyone from BJers to Democrats to progressives – can’t do much about that. Re-litigating the results of general idiocy on the Right and Left only recapitulates the same old arguments, complaints, etc., that were part of the general failure in the first place.
geg6
@Melancholy Jaques:
I do not see how relitigating what happened last summer has a single thing to do with the midterms. Some of us can have two unconnected thoughts at once.
MisterForkbeard
@Bill Arnold: Anyone who thinks Harris is a Neocon is… well, their judgment isn’t something that deserves much respect. Yow.
OGliberal
@Shakti: I read a book years ago about taxes and the tax cut con. The author had an anecdote about somebody calling in to a radio show to complain about taxes and how tax cuts would be great for an upper income earner like him and why should have to suffer just because he makes a lot of money. The host asked him how much he made annually. The answer? $75K. Even back then – I think it was during the Bush the Younger years – that was miles away from upper income….not even close.
Bill Arnold
@MisterForkbeard:
Yeah, I’d call her a liberal in the senses used in this paper:
Challenges to the Liberal Order: Reflections on International Organization (PDF (33 pages), David A. Lake, Lisa L. Martin, and Thomas Risse, 2020, archive link (original is paywalled))
comrade scotts agenda of rage
@geg6:
Heh heh, very true. So many franchises operating in a “race to the bottom” mindset.
OGliberal
@Melancholy Jaques: Just like you can’t fix stupid, you can’t fix people who are racist, misogynist and xenophobic – and most people who are one are all three. 99% will never, ever change. Nothing the Democrats can say or offer – outside of going back to being like the Southern Dems – will win them over. The only solution is to get more people who aren’t those things out to vote for Democrats. But that’s hard. The only way LBJ got all of the good stuff passed that he did is because he gave the Southern Dems Vietnam (there were also plenty of Cold Warriors on the Dem side who were not from the South – but they would have voted for the stuff without Vietnam), which then disillusioned many left-leaning folks, leading the Johnson not running for re-election….and then we got Nixon twice.
tam1MI
@ExPatExDem: Exhibit #576326799 as to why tankies always fail.
jonas
As someone once said, we’re not a nation of workers, just temporarily embarrassed millionaires.
The Thin Black Duke
Over on Bluesky, Yours Truly was inundated by a tsunami of angry posts telling me I was a monster who supported genocide because I committed the grievous sin of not condemning Joe Biden, History’s Greatest Monster. What was depressing was the number of alleged “progressives” who were proud of sitting out the 2024 presidential election.
Formerly disgruntled in Oregon
@The Thin Black Duke:
They FA
We all FO
jonas
The vast majority of Americans have no clue what the real wealth gap is in this country or why it’s largely the reason they feel everything is falling apart. There are people on Wall Street who make more in a day than most Americans will make in their lifetimes. And their top tax rate is 20% on that. But they’ll vote for Republicans because, hey, that could be me someday!
mrmoshpotato
@comrade scotts agenda of rage:
The Fish are in town, and they’re probably ready to slap. Go Fish!
stacib
@schrodingers_cat: As soon as I read the headlines, I thought of you and ZG. I think the three of us were the most furious on this blog on how Biden was treated by his “friends and allies” after that debate. He has a lot more kindness in him than I do, because I would have trashed the bunch Democrats – Obama, Schiff and Pelosi included.
stacib
@ExPatExDem: You will be turned into yummy pie.
Melancholy Jaques
@trollhattan:
Not sure how to take that last line, but if you’re trying to insult me, I decline the offer. And I am reading the room & it makes me sad.
@geg6:
Focusing on the past & fighting with each other over a moot point is a waste & a negative. Does it help us win anything?
stinger
@Emily B.:
And that’s so weird because, although the Felon doesn’t particularly want to hurt red states, where his supporters live, he DOES want to hurt blue states and governors who “don’t respect” him.
tam1MI
I was right up there on the fury scale, too.
TEL
@tam1MI: As was I.
ExPatExDem
@Bill Arnold: I did, not that it mattered much.
As for calling her a neocon, I didn’t make her start hugging Cheneys. She chose that. AND thought it was a good idea.
ExPatExDem
@tam1MI: Maybe noted winners Al Gore, Hillary Clinton, and Kamala Harris should have spent more time engaging real liberals and less chasing imaginary moderate Republicans.
TurnItOffAndOnAgain
@ExPatExDem: Or alternatively, real liberals could’ve shown they were worth the trouble and actually voted for them.
I’m not even saying I agree with this premise, but say I did: if you were a liberal who couldn’t see how bad GWB or Trump was without any of those three catering to you, you probably weren’t gettable and were a waste of their time anyway.
kindness
@ExPatExDem: Welcome to pie. You’ve earned it.
No One of Consequence
Ladies and Gentlemen and Associated Others,
For your consideration: Apathy.
I posit that Apathy is the Reason we are all here, finding out. Apathy on almost every side, as I see it.
Apathy among those who couldn’t lever their asses of the couch on election day.
Apathy among the Republican supporters about their Democracy, who appeared to love Lies and Hate more than Freedom and the Rule of Law.
Apathy among the Democrats. Not collectively acting like our hats were on fire and our asses were catching.
Now, before you flame the fuck outa this comment, I’m not pointing individual fingers here. Most of my hand will be pointing at me. But, ENOUGH COLLECTIVE APATHY, in the right places, at the right time, has led us here.
I don’t see any future election as more than a goddamn diceroll without addressing that. If we don’t come up with something to combat the BROADCAST HATE that appears to me to have a death-hold on this country, I’m not sure the Nice Guys will ever win again.
Please prove me wrong. Or at least argue in Good Faith.
Thank you,
-NOoC
O. Felix Culpa
@TEL: Me too.
TONYG
@ExPatExDem: Maybe it’s just my opinion, but the notion that voters need to pandered to by a candidate has always seemed idiotic to me. I’m an old geezer who has been voting for 51 years. I’m not trying to date the candidates, nor do I want the candidates to be my friends. I have some semblance of a brain, and I’m capable of learning about the experience and positions of a candidate and evaluating that against my own values. It doesn’t have to be a perfect match; just a judgement that one candidate is better than the other. Anybody who voted for Trump (or who sat out the election) because Hillary Clinton, Joe Biden or Kamala Harris seemed to be too imperfect for their tender sensibilities is just a fucking idiot. It’s that simple.
ExPatExDem
@TONYG: I understand your point, but a candidate isn’t owed the vote of anyone. Convincing people to vote for them is up to them. The D party needs to get better at articulating why liberal policy ideas are better and give voters a reason to vote FOR them, not just ask them to vote AGAINST the other guy.
The latter only worked one out of three times with Trump, and then only after he had killed half a million people and trashed the economy.
bluefoot
@schrodingers_cat: Hell, they won’t even entertain the idea that perhaps they could have acted differently.
bluefoot
@dww44: I posted here before that a lot of rank-and-file Democrats and Democratic orgs have said they’d love to have Biden speak. It’s the “insiders” who seem to be allergic to acknowledging his continued existence.
schrodingers_cat
@bluefoot: Instead they reprimand us and say that we are “relitigating” July 2024.
sab
@tam1MI: Me too. And my husband is still too angry to talk about it.
And I love Kamala. But Biden was the best president of my lifetime and we ditched him.
Tazj
Now people like Dave Weigel and the Pod Save America bros want Dems on some sort of apology tour to the electorate and repudiate Biden. GFTO! There’s no way in hell I want any Democrat to apologize for Biden when he was a very good president, left the race and Trump exists. Harris was an excellent candidate and it’s not our fault people were sexist and racist and just too damn lazy to vote for her. Sorry the truth hurts. Were there people who were hurt by inflation? Yes. Did the media play a large role in promoting Trump? Yes. Are there people who don’t have time to delve into the issues because of work and life? Yes. But that’s not most people. People who voted who voted for Trump were fine voting for a felon and rapist who lied about corruption in the 2020 election and fomented a coup because they stupidly thought he would bring prices down.
Just let our candidates move on and talk about the future and criticize Trump every chance they can.
Baud
@Tazj:
Ignore them. They have an audience that loves to hear that sort of talk. No one who has a future in Democratic leadership is going to listen to them. If they don’t like it, they can vote for their fellow haters in the GOP.
TONYG
@ExPatExDem: That is very true. I think that the right-wing in this country (I don’t call them “conservatives”) has a built in advantage because they can appeal to the selfishness and mean-spiritedness of the “average voter”. A liberal candidate has to appeal to a sense of solidarity among people of different ethnicities, races, religions and economic classes — a sense of solidarity that is often not there. (One of my memories as a teenager in the early seventies was the time that an adult man (“white” like me) offered his opinion to me that “Nixon is a goddamn crook — but I like him because he keeps the negroes down.”. He used another word, not “negroes”. Multiply that guy by 100 million and you have the “average voter”.). Very often, “we” get what “we” deserve.
Ruckus
@schrodingers_cat:
Likely some of it was just the stress of being president and having the opposition being a man 4 years younger than him acting like a 7 yr old spoiled brat. That and having a large enough segment of the electorate thinking “That’s Normal!” I’d also bet that the stress of being an old and having that job might just play into it a bit.
Hell I’m not that much younger than either of them, born in the same decade as both of them and I sure as hell wouldn’t want that much stress in my life. I’ve had times in my life where I had a fair amount of stress and that gets ZERO celebration from me, other than I don’t have close to that now.
schrodingers_cat
@Ruckus: Biden looks sprightly and younger compared to just a year ago.
chemiclord
@schrodingers_cat: Turns out when you care about doing the job right, it’s more exhausting and mentally draining than damn near any other job on the planet.
It’s a huge part of the reason I was very lukewarm on the trio of Biden, Bernie, and Warren running in 2020.
jowriter
@TONYG: A-f’n-men.
AxelFoley
This bullshit again, I swear…
dww44
@schrodingers_cat: I’ve been away all day but the names are in the article. I just couldn’t link from my phone.
dww44
@chemiclord: There were a lot of us who were lukewarm for the same reason. And those in my circle here, all from the same age group, felt the same way. We needed younger choices.
TONYG
@dww44: Both major parties have had a problem with gerontocracy for years. During the 2020 Democratic primaries, Biden was my third choice (after Warren and Sanders) — but Bernie is actually older than Biden and Warren (like Trump) is almost as old as Biden. A choice of candidates who, in a normal job, would already be retired. As it turned out, my primary vote didn’t matter anyway, as usual. (In the ridiculous primary system, the primary for my state — New Jersey — takes place so late — June — that the nominee is almost always already chosen by the time of the primary.) There needs to be younger candidates and a less-ridiculous primary system. (I want a pony too.)