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Open Thread: Oh, Really?

by Anne Laurie|  May 17, 20253:22 am| 130 Comments

This post is in: Media, Open Threads, Trumpery

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Open Thread: Oh, Really?

NEW — Trump's White House is hiding the vast majority of the transcripts of his remarks.
Why? The White House won't say…
But maybe reading the following might offer a clue:
www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-…

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— S.V. Dáte (@svdate.bsky.social) May 15, 2025 at 11:59 AM

there’s a bizarro dynamic where we can see trump is totally fucking out of it in public but people like bill maher assure us that he’s sharp in private, whereas biden is cogent in public but we’re told by multiple nameless people that he’s demented behind closed doors.

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— mike m (@mmcgrath.bsky.social) May 16, 2025 at 10:32 AM

Today Trump's main legislative initiative died *in committee*, his main domestic policy initiative was declared unconstitutional by the Supreme Court, & his economic shenanigans got the whole country's credit downgraded.
Let's talk about what's important: Biden Old

— Chatham Harrison dba TRUMP DELENDUS EST (@chathamharrison.bsky.social) May 16, 2025 at 4:49 PM

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130Comments

  1. 1.

    NotMax

    May 17, 2025 at 3:37 am

    First?

    Figures. On a night when I got nuthin’.

  2. 2.

    RoseWeiss

    May 17, 2025 at 3:39 am

    Wow, that’s some word salad. I love salad, but not that kind.

  3. 3.

    Pete Downunder

    May 17, 2025 at 3:47 am

    I suppose I should be used to it by now, but I am still amazed at how the MSM and the public generally do not react with horror at everything the Mango Menace says and does. Compared to the relatively trivial gaffs of previous presidents, Trump’s should cause universal hair on fire reactions but instead it’s “oh, that’s just Trump being Trump”. Outrageous. Make me happy I’m a long, long way away.

  4. 4.

    Jeffg166

    May 17, 2025 at 3:49 am

    @Pete Downunder:

    The pearl clutching outrage machine is only turned on when a Democrat is in the White House. IOKIYAR.

  5. 5.

    RoseWeiss

    May 17, 2025 at 3:53 am

    OT: if anyone hasn’t seen Trae Crowder’s (Liberal Redneck) latest comedy special, I highly recommend it. Available on YouTube. We are lucky to have a bunch of terrific comedians/social analysts right now. Watching them every night keeps me from despair.

  6. 6.

    Splitting Image

    May 17, 2025 at 3:55 am

    I can never get over how much this guy boasts about acing a cognitive test. Three cognitive tests, no less.

    The whole point of a cognitive test is that you are asked trivially easy questions which will indicate a serious problem if you get something wrong. I had surgery some years back and was given the usual sort of test when I came out from under the ether, and I was relieved that I was able to answer everything correctly, but it would never have occurred to me to brag about it. For years he’s been doing this now.

  7. 7.

    oklahomo

    May 17, 2025 at 4:07 am

    @Splitting Image: “I’ve had three DUI tests, and aced them all!”

  8. 8.

    montanareddog

    May 17, 2025 at 4:45 am

    2 famous quotes, often cited at this place:

    We just need to pick a Republican with enough working digits to handle a pen to become the president of the United States . . . and to sign the legislation that has already been prepared.

    — Grover Norquist

     

    On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart’s desire at last, and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.

    — H.L. Mencken

    They seem to apply to Trump so precisely that we should call him the first Mencken-Norquist POTUS

    (Reagan may have been an intellectually-average man who declined into dementia but he had a coherent ideology of his own)

  9. 9.

    Baud

    May 17, 2025 at 4:51 am

    Media that report on Trump’s mental state get punished.

    Media that report on Biden’sn mental state get subscriptions and clicks from liberals.

  10. 10.

    prostratedragon

    May 17, 2025 at 5:22 am

    @Jeffg166:  Meanwhile the rest of us, when discussing the latest atrocities, tend after a short while to start shouting. In my circle it’s become a bitter running joke.

  11. 11.

    Betty Cracker

    May 17, 2025 at 5:52 am

    The high temp today is 91 F. I’m going to find a cold spring to jump into! This one isn’t far away.

    Turquoise blue spring with trees on the far bank

    But there are all these dumb rules…

    Spring rules sign that forbids alcohol, pets, smoking and profanity

  12. 12.

    Betty Cracker

    May 17, 2025 at 5:54 am

    That last rule especially — FUCK THAT!

  13. 13.

    prostratedragon

    May 17, 2025 at 5:58 am

    @Betty Cracker:  Ok. Was going to say, “Well, shit!”

  14. 14.

    sab

    May 17, 2025 at 6:12 am

    @Betty Cracker: Is profanity blasphemy, or does it also include ordinary vulgar language?

    I always make the distinction. I try to avoid taking the Lord’s name in vain, but I am fine with saying shit and fuck and variations, only not in front of the grandchildren.

  15. 15.

    Baud

    May 17, 2025 at 6:12 am

    @sab:

    I think the meaning has changed over time.

  16. 16.

    sab

    May 17, 2025 at 6:15 am

    @Baud: Which camp are you in?

  17. 17.

    sab

    May 17, 2025 at 6:16 am

    The pitbull just started barking at a robin. I realize those little guys are obnoxiously loud at dawn, but barking at a bird? Really?

  18. 18.

    Baud

    May 17, 2025 at 6:17 am

    @sab:

    The modern camp.

  19. 19.

    oldster

    May 17, 2025 at 6:19 am

    @sab:

    You’re right — if it’s not an offense to the gods then you are not profaning.
    You can see this distinction in e.g. Luther, who is happy to say “shit” and “asshole” all day, but would not violate the third commandment.

  20. 20.

    Baud

    May 17, 2025 at 6:24 am

    I hope no one even takes my name in vain.

  21. 21.

    AM in NC

    May 17, 2025 at 6:26 am

    @Betty Cracker: When my mom lived in Winter Park, we’d go to Blue Springs or Wekiwa. Just so beautiful.

  22. 22.

    Betty Cracker

    May 17, 2025 at 6:26 am

    @sab: I’ve had to train my dogs not to bark at birds. Never heard them bark at something as small as a robin, but they did used to bark at the large wading birds we see from the yard, e.g., herons, egrets and such. I shushed them consistently, and they eventually got the message.

  23. 23.

    mrmoshpotato

    May 17, 2025 at 6:29 am

    @Betty Cracker: Have a pleasant experience – damn it!

  24. 24.

    Geminid

    May 17, 2025 at 6:31 am

    I ran into an article by the Washington Post’s Karen Tumulty. There was a photo of an angry Rep. Jan Schakowski holding up a picture of someone in a wheelchair as she denounced proposed Medicaid cuts, and this headline:

    26 hours and 33 failed amendment votes: Democrats put on a master class in resistance

    In the marathon committee session, Democrats showed how best to challenge Republicans on Medicaid

    For a party that has been shut out of power in Washington, what happened this week in Room 2123 of the Rayburn Building was a masterclass in resistance.

    Over more than 26 sleepless hours that began on Tuesday afternoon and continued into Wednesday afternoon, Democrats on the House Energy and Commerce Committee pounded Republicans with 33 amendments, most of which were aimed a stripping the GOP’s “big, beautiful bill” containing politically toxic cuts to Medicaid.

    That’s all I could get because the article was paywalled, but it’s a decent summary of what looks like some good reporting. And after hearing media reports all week about how Democrats are screwing up again, I found the perspective refreshing.

    I read about a similar all-night Ways and Means Committee session this week, mainly because some clout-chasers tried to make hay out of Debbie Dingel falling asleep at one point. When asked by reporters about this, Congresswoman Dingel said of her critics, “fuck ’em.”

    An evergreen response!

    In January, after a Democratic Caucus meeting, Reps. Jeffries, Clark and Aguilar talked about their opposition strategy. It was three-pronged: litigation, communication, and legislation. This week, House Energy and Commerce Committee Democrats showed their work on one part of the legislative strategy.

  25. 25.

    mrmoshpotato

    May 17, 2025 at 6:32 am

    Sooooo, the syphilitic orange shitstain no longer wants to have sex with Taylor Swift?  I’m confused.

    Either way, he still should’ve choked on a Big Mac when Nixon was busy not being a crook.

  26. 26.

    sab

    May 17, 2025 at 6:32 am

    @Baud: The not in front of the grandchildren camp?

  27. 27.

    mrmoshpotato

    May 17, 2025 at 6:34 am

    @Baud: What if we very specifically cursed about the speeds of our modems decades ago?

  28. 28.

    sab

    May 17, 2025 at 6:35 am

    @Geminid: If I remember correctly, Karen Tumulty has a brother way up the autism spectrum. She was really on top of things during the debates before the ACA passed.

    She needs to keep her job with the MSM but mostly she is one of the good guys.

  29. 29.

    Baud

    May 17, 2025 at 6:37 am

    @Geminid:

    I’m surprised to see that level of praise in the Washington Post.

  30. 30.

    Baud

    May 17, 2025 at 6:37 am

    @sab:

    I would never curse around children.

    Unless they started it.

  31. 31.

    sab

    May 17, 2025 at 6:39 am

    @Baud: They always do. My granddaughter: “Why can’t I say fuck when all the grownups around me do, all the time.”

  32. 32.

    Geminid

    May 17, 2025 at 6:39 am

    @sab: I read Karen Tumulty a lot back when I bought the Washington Post, and I always liked her reporting.

  33. 33.

    sab

    May 17, 2025 at 6:43 am

    @Geminid: Back when Time or whatever magazine had Swampland, she was amazing at handling comment trolls. The guys ( Joe Klein, Jay Carney ) all quit in frustration but she just kept plugging away at being calm and rational and persistent.

  34. 34.

    sab

    May 17, 2025 at 6:45 am

    @sab: But back to the question: is vulgarity the same as cursing? I don’t think so.

  35. 35.

    sab

    May 17, 2025 at 6:54 am

    Apparently we had a big storm last night. Leaves and tree limbs down everywhere. I slept through it, but woke up at 2:30 when the noisy neighbor got home from her bar job. And one of my bedroom screens was blown out!!!

    So I did a quick nose count of the cats and came up one cat short! The missing cat was originally a semi-feral (no known owner but kind neighbors fed her) so I couldn’t believe she had jumped out of the window but if she had she would have freaked out and otherwise panicked.

    I searched everywhere for her, inside and out. After three hours of me panicking husband woke up. He called her and three minutes later she appeared.

    Long night.

  36. 36.

    Baud

    May 17, 2025 at 6:54 am

    I was told there’d be no etymology.

  37. 37.

    Manyakitty

    May 17, 2025 at 7:02 am

    @sab: yikes! Glad you found the kitty!

  38. 38.

    Baud

    May 17, 2025 at 7:03 am

    Exclusive: US aid cuts leave food for millions mouldering in storage

    Pure waste.

  39. 39.

    Dorothy A. Winsor

    May 17, 2025 at 7:03 am

    Re the Trump quote at the top: Could any of you actually read it all the way through? I couldn’t. My brain bounced off.

  40. 40.

    Lapassionara

    May 17, 2025 at 7:04 am

    Thank you for this post, AL. I am just amazed at the bandwidth given to Biden’s cognitive function, while Trump continues to display multiple symptoms of losing his marbles.

  41. 41.

    sab

    May 17, 2025 at 7:05 am

    @Manyakitty: I think she was hiding because of the wind. She is a skittish little girl. Trusts no one except husband and the pitbull.

  42. 42.

    sab

    May 17, 2025 at 7:05 am

    @Dorothy A. Winsor: Me neither.

  43. 43.

    Ghost of Joe Lebling’s Dog

    May 17, 2025 at 7:07 am

    @Geminid:

    Un-paywalled copy here.

  44. 44.

    Manyakitty

    May 17, 2025 at 7:08 am

    @sab: my Asimov has been scared of the storms lately. Not sure if they’re getting worse or he’s losing his ability to cope after a year with Cygnus (who is now several pounds heavier and at least an inch taller than he is).

    Meanwhile, I’m trying to find out if Wally Waffle in Montrose has power because I’m supposed to meet a friend for breakfast there before I head to Columbus for the meetup.

  45. 45.

    stinger

    May 17, 2025 at 7:08 am

    @Baud: ​
     If you never make the White House, then, yes, I will have chanted “Baud 20XX!” all these years in vain. :-(

  46. 46.

    Dorothy A. Winsor

    May 17, 2025 at 7:09 am

    @Betty Cracker: How’s Pete?

  47. 47.

    Baud

    May 17, 2025 at 7:13 am

    Capitol rioter arrested for Virginia home invasion after presidential pardon

    If there were nothing else, the pardons alone would be reason to oppose Trump.

  48. 48.

    Professor Bigfoot

    May 17, 2025 at 7:16 am

    @Geminid: We already know MSM lies, they MUST be lying about this.

    I mean, “masterclass?” FROM DEMOCRATS??

    The party of the feckless and useless and especially ancient and decrepit? UN POSSIBLE.

  49. 49.

    Baud

    May 17, 2025 at 7:16 am

    The US Department of Justice is set to drop a criminal case against aircraft maker Boeing despite the fact that the company agreed to plead guilty last year, according to attorneys for families of victims of two fatal crashes of the 737 Max that led to the case.

  50. 50.

    Professor Bigfoot

    May 17, 2025 at 7:18 am

    @sab: Thank goodness! “All’s well that ends well,” and yon kitty is safe.

  51. 51.

    Professor Bigfoot

    May 17, 2025 at 7:19 am

    @Dorothy A. Winsor: Read the first line– couldn’t make it to the end of the first “sentence.”

    Oy.

  52. 52.

    Suzanne

    May 17, 2025 at 7:25 am

    The seething rage that FFOTUS has for Taylor Swift makes me laugh (though it really isn’t funny). The lady is minding her own business, being fantastically successful, and he just cannot bear it and has to try to take her down at every turn. I laugh because it is pathetic. Large-scale negging.

  53. 53.

    Manyakitty

    May 17, 2025 at 7:26 am

    @Baud: of COURSE.

  54. 54.

    Rugosa

    May 17, 2025 at 7:38 am

    I am so angry at the treatment Biden is getting.  He is a good man and he was a good president.  According to modern journalism’s rule that no good deed goes unpunished, he was raked over the coals for the stimulus spending and the Afghan withdrawal without explanation of the hard choices involved.  Now we’re supposed to believe he has been in decline longer than we knew – we didn’t know because everyone who did was saving up the juicy bits for a book deal.  That is, if it is true, which we will never now because either they were lying then or they are lying now.

    Biden served his country well.  He should be permitted to retire with dignity as an honored public servant.

  55. 55.

    zhena gogolia

    May 17, 2025 at 7:39 am

    @Rugosa: It’s so, so disgusting.

    I unsubscribed from “Friends of Chris Murphy” yesterday and told them why.

  56. 56.

    Baud

    May 17, 2025 at 7:40 am

    @Rugosa:

    Comes with the territory of being a successful Democrat. US political society is geared toward bringing us down. From all directions.

  57. 57.

    Professor Bigfoot

    May 17, 2025 at 7:42 am

    @Rugosa: If there’s one soul walking the planet who deserves a long, happy retirement it is Joseph Robinette Biden Jr.

    I have my own theory for why they have dogged Joe like they have; and it’s all about who he’s comfortable with, who he nominated for what, and who he’s comfortable to be around… he cannot be forgiven for being a solid, loyal, reliable second banana to a Black President.

  58. 58.

    Baud

    May 17, 2025 at 7:43 am

    @Professor Bigfoot:

    One additional note is that Joe isn’t an Ivy Leaguer.

  59. 59.

    BretH

    May 17, 2025 at 7:44 am

    Seeing a huge article in the WashPost today parsing a Biden interview for hints he was senile I can’t believe I’m agreeing with orangeface on this but the media (at least some of it) is really the Enemy of the People.

  60. 60.

    Baud

    May 17, 2025 at 7:45 am

    @BretH:

    The elites protect their own.

  61. 61.

    Betty Cracker

    May 17, 2025 at 7:46 am

    @Dorothy A. Winsor: Pete seems totally back to normal. :)

  62. 62.

    artem1s

    May 17, 2025 at 7:46 am

    @montanareddog:Reagan may have been an intellectually-average man who declined into dementia but he had a coherent ideology of his own

    Reagan was a trained actor. He could follow a script. He had no ideology of his own except to get his taxes lowered and hit his mark.  But yes, he wasn’t a complete moron.

    W is the first Mencken-Norquist POTUS. Cruel, bereft of curiosity, emotion IQ of a middle schooler, C+ Augustus legacy frat boy who barely was able to drink his way thru college and the National Guard. He had two federal drug offenses and multiple DUI’s in his ‘youthful’ 40’s that Poppy had covered up while he was VP. And then he bribed a judge with a seat on the TX lottery commission to expunged the coke possessions when they began to Whitewash W so he could run for Governor of TX. W ran every business he had into failure because he was a pure White DEI hire. He was emotionally stunted by his mother’s coddling and desperate to please his father and his psychopathic buddies.

    W’s landmark action as governor of TX was to appoint Alberto Gonzalez as TX SoS and then as US AG. W’s drinking buddy was a psychotic sociopathic masochist who made it a policy goal to murder as many people on death row as he could get thru the system no matter how flimsy their convictions. Gonzalez ‘declared’ the Geneva Conventions obsolete and then OK’d the IC to torture POWs. He was the father of the double speak practice of ‘enhanced interrogation’ and ‘extraordinary rendition’. He was disappearing people to foreign prisons and Gitmo without any due process long before 45. He was too crazy even for the Bush family packed SCOTUS. ‘Shoot your friends in the face’ Darth Cheney was a fucking kitten compared to AG Gonzalez. And they weren’t the only sociopaths in 40 and 41’s circle.

    The guy who everyone wanted to have a beer with, groomed a whole country into believing his pals’ behavior was normal, acceptable and even the preferable way to run a country. With W, Norquist got his puppet to sign all the legislation he pushed at him.  And the rest of the country got a Mencken moron and a cabinet full of serial killers.

  63. 63.

    Baud

    May 17, 2025 at 7:47 am

    @zhena gogolia:

    “You, sir, are no friend of mine!”

  64. 64.

    Baud

    May 17, 2025 at 7:54 am

    I’m not a big believer in distraction theory, but the Biden stuff happening while the House is working on slashing programs and raising the debt ceiling to pay for tax cuts for rich people is a little suspicious.

    But there’s always something awful going on.

  65. 65.

    Enhanced Voting Techniques

    May 17, 2025 at 7:54 am

    @mrmoshpotato: It means he wants her to show up at Mar a Lago, fawn over him, and giggle at his lame jokes like Bill Maher.

  66. 66.

    Professor Bigfoot

    May 17, 2025 at 7:54 am

    @Baud: Every awful thing they do is a distraction from some other awful thing they do.

    It’s fractal awfulness.

  67. 67.

    zhena gogolia

    May 17, 2025 at 7:56 am

    @Baud: Nor is Kamala.

  68. 68.

    Baud

    May 17, 2025 at 7:56 am

    @Professor Bigfoot:

    Right.  But the Biden thing is more about the media than Trump doing the next awful thing on the list.

  69. 69.

    Baud

    May 17, 2025 at 7:57 am

    @zhena gogolia:

    Exactly. Important to note.

  70. 70.

    Princess

    May 17, 2025 at 7:58 am

    @Dorothy A. Winsor: What I learned from it is that Trump is preoccupied by the cognitive tests he is being asked to take and the fact that his numbers are dropping. He always points straight at the thing that shames him the most. Every accusation is a confession. He’s easy to understand when you realize that. Shame is the dressing on his word salad.

  71. 71.

    Princess

    May 17, 2025 at 8:02 am

    @Baud: The effort to distract us with Biden feels really blatant.

  72. 72.

    RevRick

    May 17, 2025 at 8:02 am

    Huffington Post contacted a number of child psychologists and asked them about Trump’s post about Taylor Swift. Besides being blatantly sexist and bullying, it revealed his essential immaturity. Since it was entirely unprovoked, it showed a lack of impulse control and neediness that one might find in children and teenagers, not in a 79-year-old man. It shows his need to puff himself up at the expense of someone else.

    ETA: I see Suzanne commented on this earlier

  73. 73.

    MagdaInBlack

    May 17, 2025 at 8:02 am

    @Princess: You also have to read it as stream of consciousness/ what I did on my summer vacation, at a 4th grade (maybe) level. The connections are all there, sorta.

  74. 74.

    Professor Bigfoot

    May 17, 2025 at 8:03 am

    @Baud: TRUE DAT.

    This is entirely about major media and how they are entirely “wired for republicans.”

    Major media is mostly white men; but of course, that’s mere coincidence.

  75. 75.

    Professor Bigfoot

    May 17, 2025 at 8:05 am

    @RevRick: It is disturbing to realize how many of our (white) fellow citizens LOVE this.

  76. 76.

    artem1s

    May 17, 2025 at 8:05 am

    @Rugosa:Biden served his country well.  He should be permitted to retire with dignity as an honored public servant.

    Joe had a press conference last week and pointed out all the obvious stuff TCF is doing to ruin democracy and the country. So TCF and media oligarchs sent out their flying monkeys to do their usual dirty work. I gotta wonder if it wasn’t intentional. The voters had a chance to see normal again and get reminded of all the good stuff they got used to having again.

    Biden and whoever planned it had to know TCF wouldn’t be able to just leave it alone. The polls have got them spooked already. And the ‘blame Biden’ is starting to sound ridiculous to even the cult 120+ days in.  And now Stupid Hitler is obsessing and bragging about his cognitive tests again. I think Joe pretty much hit the target he wanted to hit. No one cares about of asshole’s lies who are trying to sell books. Doesn’t matter to the ‘what have you done for me lately’ voters if Biden was a drooling idjit his entire term. They know he’s not in office now.

  77. 77.

    Enhanced Voting Techniques

    May 17, 2025 at 8:08 am

    @Professor Bigfoot: With Trump it’s more of how he lives his life.

    Dad catches Donny fucking the family dog, so Donny sets the garage on fire.

    Donny fucks a sex worker while Melania while she is pregnant, so Donny fucks his own daughter.

    Stuff like that.  It never occurs to Donny that life would be easier if just kept his dick in his pants.

  78. 78.

    They Call Me Noni

    May 17, 2025 at 8:08 am

    @RevRick: He’s a demented narcissist.

  79. 79.

    Betty Cracker

    May 17, 2025 at 8:08 am

    Was just reading a New Yorker interview with Jake Tapper and Alex Thompson about their book on Biden’s decline, and the interviewer, David Remnick, asked Thompson about the difference in covering Biden and Trump:

    DR: Alex, I remember very distinctly that you would watch Donald Trump on the stump during the campaign, and wild things would come out of his mouth. I mean, really wild things, causing people to say, “Well, wait a minute, while we’re comparing cognitive decline, Donald Trump sounds like he’s debilitated in some distinctly troubling way.” How do you compare?

    AT: I mean, Donald Trump has revealed almost nothing about his personal health. He didn’t do that in 2016, either. He is now older, when he was inaugurated, than Joe Biden was when he was inaugurated. And we have no knowledge. I don’t want to just be like the old-Presidents reporter, but it is troubling that the oldest President we’ve ever had inaugurated we really don’t know a lot about his health. The other sort of implicit thing in your question, which I found while I was covering this in 2023 and 2024, was, just because Trump is all those things doesn’t mean that Biden’s cognitive state is not worthy of equal scrutiny. And some Democrats were not receptive to that reporting until it was very, very late in the game and it was undeniable.

    The bolded part jumped out at me because Thompson blithely asserts Trump’s and Biden’s cognitive states got equal scrutiny, and that’s such a massive lie. And he didn’t have to lie! There are credible-sounding arguments he could have deployed, but he lied instead.

  80. 80.

    Ohio Mom

    May 17, 2025 at 8:10 am

    @sab: When Ohio Son was a preschooler and I was getting tired of biting my tongue, I asked my cousin (who had kids about six years older than OS), when I could start cursing again. She said, When he understands that there are places it is safe and appropriate to curse and places it is not. Home is okay, school isn’t.

    That seemed sensible to me. Just think Sab, in a few hours we will finally meet!

  81. 81.

    Baud

    May 17, 2025 at 8:14 am

    @Betty Cracker:

    That was the NYT defense when asked to explain their obsession with Hillary’s emails. They got defensive and said the Dems opposed any reporting on it at all.

  82. 82.

    BlueGuitarist

    May 17, 2025 at 8:19 am

    More truth from Bruce

    https://bsky.app/profile/dharmalee3.bsky.social/post/3lpd7bnhk7c2n

  83. 83.

    Geminid

    May 17, 2025 at 8:21 am

    At the urging of Saudi Crown Prince bin Salman and Turkish President Erdogan, Trump lifted American sanctions on Syria this past week. That might be the only good thing Trump does his entire term.

    Reuters and other news sites are reporting on investors queuing up to do business in the impoverished, war-torn nation.

    Aaron Y. Zelin does a lot of good reporting on Syria. Yesterday Zelin posted a picture of Syrian President al-Sharaa conferring with eight men in suits, with the caption:

       Al-Sharaa meeting with Kuwaiti businessmen. The floodgates are open.

    Ankara-based Clash Report posted an item last night about another important meeting:

       Israel and Syria recently held direct talks in Azerbaijan, according to an Israeli source.

    The meeting reportedly included Maj. Gen. Oded Basyuk, head of the IDF’s Operations Directorate and Syrian officials, with Turkish official looking on.   Source: CNN                 

    Just a couple weeks ago, Israel was bombing multiple sites in Syria almost every night, and Israeli newspapers were warning of a potential armed conflict over Syria between Israel and Turkiye. I’m not sure how, but matters seemed to have changed much for the better.

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    Baud

    May 17, 2025 at 8:22 am

    @Geminid:

    The plane may end up being one of the more productive bribes Trump gets.

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    RevRick

    May 17, 2025 at 8:23 am

    @Professor Bigfoot: Yes, it reveals how emotionally stunted many of them are.
    I visit X daily just to keep tabs on the dysfunction, and time and time again I find that whenever a MAGA feels compelled to comment, it’s an insult. Not any attempt to engage the substance. Just a stream of insults.
    I know this behavior predates Trump, because I witnessed it in comment threads at Slate magazine back in the early 2000s.
    Of course, this use of personal insults as a political tool goes back to the very beginning of our Republic with Hamiltonians and Jeffersonians hurling dark accusations at each other. It took on decidedly ugly, racist dimensions with Southern Democrats and their allies labeling Whigs and Republicans “n****r” candidates in the Antebellum and Reconstruction eras.
    It’s a mental disorder and a soul sickness that is hard to uproot.

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    RevRick

    May 17, 2025 at 8:25 am

    @They Call Me Noni: Yes, and the essential truth about narcissism is that it is a void that can never be filled.

  87. 87.

    JML

    May 17, 2025 at 8:25 am

    Old Joe Biden was so much better a president than the Current Occupant it’s almost impossible to measure. But this is where the media has utterly failed…unless they didn’t. Sure feels like a collective choice to get the “fun” administration that’s easy to cover and filled with leaks and easy stories, while appeasing the corporate masters that fear being sued and want all the tax breaks too.

    Who is really running things in the White House? Because we’re probably getting to Wilson territory, only with public appearances.

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    Geminid

    May 17, 2025 at 8:29 am

    @JML: My guess is that Chief of Staff Susan Wiles is running the White House, more or less.

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    MagdaInBlack

    May 17, 2025 at 8:40 am

    @JML: I think you are correct. It is not a failure, it is a choice.

    What you see depends on which lens or filter you use.

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    They Call Me Noni

    May 17, 2025 at 8:44 am

    @RevRick: An empty vessel.

  91. 91.

    RevRick

    May 17, 2025 at 8:48 am

    @sab: @oldster: The whole deal with profanity is the class judgment that it’s, well, low class.
    As for breaking the commandment against taking the Lord’s name in vain, it’s more about swearing oaths or making promises and then turning around and doing the opposite.
    In other words, all those white Evangelicals who swear they love Jesus and then trash his teachings about justice and mercy are actually the ones breaking that commandment.

    The Sunday after 9/11 I began my sermon with the same three words Harry Emerson Fosdick did the Sunday after Pearl Harbor: God damn it!
    God is not some porcelain doll who would shatter if you said that particular exclamation of frustration or pain. Nor would God get the vapors.

  92. 92.

    oklahomo

    May 17, 2025 at 8:51 am

    @RevRick: It reaches back to the DIttoheads and Freepers on the Clinton years.

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    MagdaInBlack

    May 17, 2025 at 9:00 am

    @RevRick: Thank you. That’s what I was taught “taking the Lords name in vain” meant.

  94. 94.

    RevRick

    May 17, 2025 at 9:05 am

    @MagdaInBlack: It’s my job as resident theologian (ha!) to offer that perspective.

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    RevRick

    May 17, 2025 at 9:06 am

    @oklahomo: To be sure.
    But back in my teenage locker room days, I was just as guilty. I’ve spent a lifetime unlearning being a racist, misogynistic, homophobic asshole.

  96. 96.

    MagdaInBlack

    May 17, 2025 at 9:08 am

    @RevRick:  😊

  97. 97.

    tobie

    May 17, 2025 at 9:10 am

    @artem1s: Trump’s DOJ leaked edited excerpts of Hur’s interview with Biden to Alex Thompson at Axios, who’s also coauthor with Jake Tapper of the Biden bashing book. A respectable journalist would realize the admin is trying to work the refs. The DC press corps functions as a megaphone for the GOP PR machine.

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    Jeffro

    May 17, 2025 at 9:16 am

    @Geminid: count me in on Team Jeffries, Clark, and Aguilar!

  99. 99.

    Jeffro

    May 17, 2025 at 9:17 am

    @Suzanne:The seething rage that FFOTUS has for Taylor Swift makes me laugh (though it really isn’t funny). The lady is minding her own business, being fantastically successful, and he just cannot bear it and has to try to take her down at every turn. I laugh because it is pathetic. Large-scale negging.

    also, she actually EARNED her money

  100. 100.

    zhena gogolia

    May 17, 2025 at 9:18 am

    Here’s how conspiratorial I am — I think Sean Combs’s trial is orchestrated to distract from Trump.

  101. 101.

    Jeffro

    May 17, 2025 at 9:19 am

    @Geminid: Wiles and Miller and Vought, essentially

    BARF

  102. 102.

    Betty

    May 17, 2025 at 9:23 am

    @RevRick: Someone asked Grok and it came to the same conclusion.

  103. 103.

    They Call Me Noni

    May 17, 2025 at 9:25 am

    @RevRick: The Sunday after 9/11 I began my sermon with the same three words Harry Emerson Fosdick did the Sunday after Pearl Harbor: God damn it!

    So it’s more of an ask?

  104. 104.

    Tazj

    May 17, 2025 at 9:29 am

    @zhena gogolia: It was very disappointing to see what Murphy has said. He thinks he’s getting the press off his back while appealing to what I believe to be a small constituency in the Democratic Party. I don’t think there are many Democrats who like seeing Biden trashed while Trump trashes the country.

    He’ll never get the press to back off. They’ll demand more apologies and more acquiescence to discredit Democrats and assert there was some long running “scandal” so Democrats won’t be seen as trustworthy.

  105. 105.

    They Call Me Noni

    May 17, 2025 at 9:29 am

    @Jeffro: She is also a charitable person and generous to her team.

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    Manyakitty

    May 17, 2025 at 9:35 am

    @Rugosa: absolutely. I lose respect for more people every day over this.

  107. 107.

    Manyakitty

    May 17, 2025 at 9:36 am

    @Professor Bigfoot: moreover, the richest donors and business leaders didn’t want to pay taxes and they knew they’d have to start under Biden’s second term.

  108. 108.

    brantl

    May 17, 2025 at 9:43 am

    @Splitting Image: you have to understand he’s excited because he doesn’t usually ace tests. This is probably the first one ever.

  109. 109.

    brantl

    May 17, 2025 at 9:45 am

    @montanareddog: he really didn’t. It was ideologically inconsistent. It was economically inconsistent, and it was brain-dead stupid in concept and execution.

  110. 110.

    Denali5

    May 17, 2025 at 9:46 am

    I have to keep remembering  that at this point the press and for the most part the courts are in the control of TCF and those who came up with Project 2025. Only when people have had enough will things change.

  111. 111.

    brantl

    May 17, 2025 at 9:47 am

    @sab: my dog barks at crows. In the dog’s defense, they’re really big crows.

  112. 112.

    tobie

    May 17, 2025 at 9:48 am

    @Tazj: I feel like the attacks on Biden are coming from two corners. One is the DC press corps, the other is leftwing punditry. Has Ezra Klein ever admitted he was wrong about anything? Ditto for the Pod Save America crew. I’m not saying Biden was faultless. But he was a damn good President who got historic legislation passed with a razor thin majority and seeing Dems shit all over that record–which included an economic rebound so robust that American consumers pulled the global economy out of the dumps–is frustrating to say the least. Yes, the recovery was robust and a 19% wage increase among low income earners was nothing to sneeze at.

  113. 113.

    RevRick

    May 17, 2025 at 9:51 am

    @They Call Me Noni: Yes, it was a prayer.

  114. 114.

    RevRick

    May 17, 2025 at 9:52 am

    @Betty: I guess I’ll have to change my nym to include “Grok certified.”

  115. 115.

    NotMax

    May 17, 2025 at 9:57 am

    @RevRick

    Received the annual birthday “let’s catch up” call from an equally vintage acquaintance residing in Emmaus.
    ;)

  116. 116.

    Princess

    May 17, 2025 at 10:42 am

    @MagdaInBlack: yes, it’s stream of consciousness.

  117. 117.

    Glidwrith

    May 17, 2025 at 10:45 am

    @Rugosa: Jimmy Carter is gone, so the ghouls need a new, extremely decent, compassionate and competent person that everyone knows, so they can slag on him and pretend their dark souls aren’t withered husks.

  118. 118.

    Tazj

    May 17, 2025 at 10:52 am

    @tobie: All I know is that you will never appease the press with your apologies . I give you an example of how they treat Democrats who are criticizing Joe Biden.

    Peter Baker NYT on Twitter

    Top Democrats try to Etch A Sketch away their past endorsements of Biden’s mental acuity away illustrative of a party that is hoping to atone for having fallen lock-step behind the octogenarian president.

    Democrats in my opinion should be following the advice of Symone Sanders-Townsend and J.B. Pritzker and talk positively about what they can do change the things people are worried about like the prices of food and housing while criticizing the Trump administration for their immigration (kidnapping) policy and the million other things they’re doing to screw us.

    By the way, Sanders-Townsend talked to Biden recently. Yes, he’s still old but doesn’t have dementia nor Parkinson’s according to his doctors and Democratic voters aren’t interested in trashing him.

  119. 119.

    Kayla Rudbek

    May 17, 2025 at 11:07 am

    @sab: we had a 12- hour power outage here in my neighborhood last night (very unusual for it to be that long, fairly uncommon for the neighborhood as from transformer to townhouses, the lines are underground). It even affected some of the stoplights on my commute.

  120. 120.

    Jackie

    May 17, 2025 at 11:23 am

    @Jeffro:

    @Suzanne:The seething rage that FFOTUS has for Taylor Swift makes me laugh (though it really isn’t funny). The lady is minding her own business, being fantastically successful, and he just cannot bear it and has to try to take her down at every turn. I laugh because it is pathetic. Large-scale negging.

    also, she actually EARNED her money

    Annnnd she’s a true billionaire without any asterisks ;-D

  121. 121.

    comrade scotts agenda of rage

    May 17, 2025 at 11:34 am

    @Pete Downunder:

    I suppose I should be used to it by now, but I am still amazed at how the MSM and the public generally do not react with horror at everything the Mango Menace says and does.

    Just shows an historical echo:

    “The lesson of the Holocaust was not that the Nazis were uniquely evil. The lesson was that anyone can become a Nazi. You’re witnessing this with America right now.”

  122. 122.

    comrade scotts agenda of rage

    May 17, 2025 at 11:35 am

    @tobie:

    Has Ezra Klein ever admitted he was wrong about anything? Ditto for the Pod Save America crew.

    The radicalized centrists as represented by the Ezra Broder Klein/MattY/MPG/Smith/New Liberalism clowns are never wrong.

    What they preach never fails, it can only be failed.

  123. 123.

    Yutsano

    May 17, 2025 at 12:00 pm

    @sab: ​It was Time magazine.

    I was one of the active commentors there & it was amazingly fun. Karen was also fun to interact with. I wonder if she would do something like that now, especially since she indeed had no quarrel with trolls.

    That is, incidentally, how I found Balloon Juice. Remember pourmecoffee? He* encouraged me & some other folks to come over here & I’ve been here since 2008.

    *I assume a he. They never did confirm their gender identity as far as I remember.

  124. 124.

    dnfree

    May 17, 2025 at 12:55 pm

    @sab: The grandchildren now curse in front of me, so that battle is lost.

  125. 125.

    HopefullyNotcassandra

    May 17, 2025 at 2:53 pm

    @BretH: I wouldn’t go that far.
    Who wants to live in a country without a free press?  Not me

  126. 126.

    HopefullyNotcassandra

    May 17, 2025 at 2:57 pm

    @Princess: Do you think this president experiences shame?  I had thought not.  Yet, you make a good point.

  127. 127.

    They Call Me Noni

    May 17, 2025 at 3:36 pm

    @RevRick: And here I thought I wasn’t a praying person…..

  128. 128.

    RevRick

    May 17, 2025 at 4:05 pm

    @NotMax: That’s three miles down the road from me. I drive through it every Tuesday morning on my way to a clergy gathering in Macungie.

  129. 129.

    Citizen Alan

    May 17, 2025 at 4:50 pm

    @MagdaInBlack: I’ve taking the position that “goddamned” does not constitute taking the lord’s name in vain when used to refer to Republicans. It is simply an accurate description. They are damned, every one of them.

  130. 130.

    emjayay

    May 17, 2025 at 6:53 pm

    @Splitting Image: I’ll copy part of your comment here because this really stupid system puts my reply a half a mile south of your comment:

    “The whole point of a cognitive test is that you are asked trivially easy questions which will indicate a serious problem if you get something wrong.”

    It’s a standard part of a yearly Medicare physical. I was told three unrelated words then later after drawing a clock at 11:10 I had to repeat them.

    The nurse said I am a “stable genius.” (I had already made a Trump related joke.) I also did that last year and that nurse had no clue about something I assumed any minimally educated person in NYC would know.

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