WIRED has the latest in the ongoing Trump vs. Musk feud:
Over the last few days, Musk has posted increasingly personal criticisms at Trump and the Republican budget reconciliation package known as the Big Beautiful Bill on X. This came to a head on Thursday, when Trump addressed the relationship during a press conference with German chancellor Friedrich Merz.
“Elon and I had a great relationship. I don’t know if we will anymore,” said Trump, who compared Musk to past aides who have, he said, developed “Trump derangement syndrome” after leaving his administration…
Today’s remarks, though, reveal how fractured that relationship has become. “Without me, Trump would have lost the election,” Musk posted on X shortly after Trump’s comments. “Dems would control the House and the Republicans would be 51-49 in the Senate.”
Thanks, John Roberts, you fucking wanker!
“If [Musk] actually successfully gets any votes switched to tank this bill and kills it,” a senior Trumpworld strategist tells WIRED, “then I think at that point he’s fucking dead to Donald Trump.”
Could these swollen ass-pustules still kiss and make up? It wouldn’t be the first time, but Trump is so vulnerable to narcissistic injury that he can’t admit he lost the 2020 election — even to himself. Now Musk is openly telling everyone HE bought the presidency and Congress for Trump.
Meanwhile, Musk also appears to be spiraling. And he’s saying this shit, presumably with full awareness that Trump is illegally exerting control over the government contracts that are the basis of Musk’s fortune. (Nationalize SpaceX on nat-sec grounds, anyone?)
The other villains in this drama, elected Republicans, probably don’t know whether to scratch their watches or wind their asses. They’ve hitched their political futures to Trump, an elderly lame-duck president, and they’re scared shitless of Musk’s money.
Friends, we might just need ALL the popcorn.
Open thread.
Raoul Paste
I’d forgotten about the influence Trump has on Musk‘s government contracts. Could get ugly
zhena gogolia
Probably true.
Baud
I’m saving my popcorn for when we’re back in power.
But that might require several unforced errors from the GOP. So hopefully they will increase their infighting.
Defeating the bill is important, but not necessarily to our political advantage.
catclub
Extremely doubtful. The TACO is still a coward.
Musk and Putin own him.
Suzanne
Elmo is currently tweeting about wanting to start a third party, and I wish him all the best.
(Guess what all the best is.)
SiubhanDuinne
@Baud:
Okay. But we can root for injuries without popcorn.
catclub
This is all a distraction for the media so they won’t have to report
“Kilmar Abrego Garcia has still not been returned to the US” over and over again.
cmorenc
@Suzanne:
When your enemies are busy destroying each other, best to stay out of the way and not interfere.
tam1MI
Two toxic narcissists, both who believe the other would be nothing without them, fight.
Let us savor.
Juju
Musk and Trump both seem to be spiraling to me.
Raoul Paste
@catclub: Possibly owned, but he hates the appearance of being owned. We will see.
mapaghimagsik
I can’t help but wonder what fresh disaster is this family feud meant to distract from?
Archon
This is like watching Alien versus Predator.
Baud
@Archon:
Unfair to both Alien and Predator.
Betty Cracker
Y’all…
hotshoe
I am happy to have heard this today 💙
But there seems to be a sad lack of gator emoji with which to show appreciation for Betty Cracker :(
Steve LaBonne
@Raoul Paste: Injuries, injuries, rah rah rah!
zhena gogolia
@Betty Cracker: 🙏💜😀
zhena gogolia
@hotshoe: 🐊
Baud
@Betty Cracker:
“Why Dems should welcome Donald Trump into the party,” by Politico.
sixthdoctor
@Betty Cracker: Followed up with:
Elon Musk &X @elonmusk Time to drop the really big bomb: @realDonald Trump is in the Epstein files. That is the real reason they have not been made public. Have a nice day, DJT!
https://bsky.app/profile/notdred.bsky.social/post/3lquzs4ndqk2j
comrade scotts agenda of rage
Hair Furor can yammer all he wants about cancelling Edolf’s sweet, sweet gubmint contracts.
In the end, it’ll be a typical Donny TACO exercise.
Archon
@Baud: Lol. You can kind of understand where the Predator is coming from. The Alien is truly a terrifying species with zero redeeming qualities.
So I guess Elon is the Predator in that analogy and I grudgingly have to root for him.
Baud
Trump also says an occasional negative thing about Russia. It don’t mean nothin until somethin actually happens.
comrade scotts agenda of rage
@Archon:
Can’t we just root for Ahnold and Ripley to take em both out?
Old School
@Betty Cracker: Now there’s something to get the TACO meme involved in.
Betty Cracker
@Baud: Debbie Downer! ;)
PaulWartenberg
Both of them are monsters.
Musk’s still got his DOGE interns gutting our federal agencies, he’s responsible for cutting foreign health aid that’s killed tens of thousands of people, and he’s a goddamn racist/eugenicist/white supremist.
and trump… well, he’s the Eternal Shitgibbon.
I’m not celebrating any of this, and I’m not buying this public spat until either – or BOTH – assholes are sitting in adjoining jail cells.
zhena gogolia
@sixthdoctor: 😂💜🙏
This is a day to shamelessly flout the emoji directive!!!
Steve LaBonne
@sixthdoctor: Lemon really is an idiot. Everybody already knows what Trump is. It’s just that his cult thinks it’s great. They only wish they could get away with the same stuff.
Baud
@sixthdoctor:
Even I have to admit that’s a good bread and circus.
Mr. Bemused Senior
@hotshoe:
🐊
There’s crocodile (alas, a poor substitute, complain to the Unicode consortium).
Betty Cracker
@sixthdoctor: Holy shit, for real?
hotshoe
@zhena gogolia:
🐊 🐊 🐊
Thank you for gators!
Now I know for next time …
sixthdoctor
@Betty Cracker: Yep.
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1930703865801810022
zhena gogolia
@hotshoe: I guess they’re saying it’s a crocodile. I don’t know how to tell the difference. It looked like a gator to me.
Raoul Paste
@sixthdoctor: Whoa
schrodingers_cat
@Baud: Exactly right, words are cheap. I want to see concrete action.
Steve LaBonne
@schrodingers_cat: I want to see blood on the floor. Maximum mutual damage.
Archon
There was a 100 percent chance there was going to be a fallout between Musk and Trump but this went nuclear REAL quick
Baud
@schrodingers_cat:
I’d like to see Musk go after his replacement, Vought.
Emily B.
Headline from today at NJ.com (online version of the Star-Ledger and other local NJ media): Babbling Trump gives nonsensical answer about Biden ‘scandal’
Meanwhile, NYT and WaPost are fixated on the rupture with Musk. The sanewashing continues.
Raoul Paste
Tesla stock is now down 48 points.
Baud
@Emily B.:
There have been some good independent newspapers that have been doing good work recently.
dm
Yes, please. Starlink, too.
Suzanne
@sixthdoctor: LMAO.
We get so few political joys these days. I’ll take this one for now.
Baud
@Raoul Paste:
Could all this be another market manipulation play?
sixthdoctor
@Raoul Paste: I saw a Bluesky post (paraphrasing) “Who in Trump’s orbit shorted Tesla today?”
trollhattan
@sixthdoctor:
Your move, TACO.
Raoul Paste
@Baud: It could be manipulation, but it’s a strange script to follow for each of them.
MattF
You think Elon has the goods on Donnie? Of course, accusations of pedophilia is something Musk does now and then… so real evidence would be significant here.
zhena gogolia
@Baud: I like the headlines I get from Cleveland Plain Dealer.
Mr. Bemused Senior
@Emily B.: He [Trump] has uncovered the human mind, they report. We’re in for it now.
Archon
@Baud: Elon doing the twitter equivalent if burning the ships at harbor. There is no turning back.
hotshoe
@Mr. Bemused Senior:
It’s been … hmm … many decades since I needed to know the difference between croc and gator for a class. Dimly remember the California Academy of Sciences in Golden Gate Park, visiting their “swamp”. They had well-written informational plaque explaining the difference, but I don’t remember which kind they had. Alligator, maybe, because native to the states even though not native to CA?
What CA has are alligator lizards, pretty fierce with a vicious bite — but not charismatic “megafauna” 😎
hotshoe
@zhena gogolia:
Croc emoji officially stands in for gator emoji. The differences are too subtle to make it worth having one of each — when most of us would just use one or the other at random anyway.
But I’m the kind of person who has to know, once something makes me curious, so I looked it up.
The emoji picture is a crocodile because its lower teeth are showing. Gator lower teeth don’t show when they’re at rest. And the head is “V-shaped”, narrow. Gator head is “U-shaped”, broad.
So whoever drew that emoji did intend it to represent croc.
It’s fine, it’s all fine. And we can use our tiny pieces of art online however we want 💚 🐊 💚
Betty Cracker
Thanks for the gators, everyone!
Ken B
@zhena gogolia: Gators have a broad, U shaped snout; crocodiles have a narrower, V shaped snout.
Crocs also grow bigger, eventually,
Looks more like gator to me. But it is an emoji, so who knows.
Repatriated
@zhena gogolia:
The difference is in when you will see them again.
Alligators, you will see later.
Crocodiles, however, you will see in a while.
CCL
@Repatriated: oh you made my day!
matt
If this is what saves America I might die of embarrassment for my country.
Marc
@Ken B: Well, the other big difference is that if I found myself halfway between a crocodile and an alligator, and I needed to get by one to GTF out, I’d go with the alligator.
Mr. Bemused Senior
Sweet Zoo 🎶
catclub
@Ken B:
terrifying. Salties can be 30 ft long.
Ruckus
The other villains in this drama, elected Republicans, probably don’t know whether to scratch their watches or wind their asses. They’ve hitched their political futures to Trump, an elderly lame-duck president, and they’re scared shitless of Musk’s money.
Friends, we might just need ALL the popcorn.
I don’t believe that this could be stated any better.
I think this bromance was always going to fall apart because at some point they were always going to fight over who is #1 on the asshole hit parade. shitforbrains because his ego is far, far bigger than it has any right whatsoever to be and shitforbrains II because his world of “I’m the richest so I’m the bestest,” seems to be unravelling because he may be the richest, but he’s still a shitty human being who thinks money is the key to EVERYTHING. Now saying money is not important in today’s world would be ignorant as all outdoors but humanity is a tad bit more than just a bank account. And he seems to draw a far smaller humanity measurement than said bank account(s).
AM in NC
In honor of Pam Bondi (and because one of the kindest people I know is named Karen), I support the new push to make “Pam” the new “Karen”. Also too, Ivanka would work (and affect far fewer decent people with the same name).
Kathleen
@Baud: “Should Democrats try to get more votes than Republicans? It’s complicated.”
Ryan LIzza
Miss Bianca
Dear God, just the title on this one made me crack up. Bless you, Betty C!
brantl
I keep hoping for reciprocal head injuries, but then I realize you can’t hurt either one of them in the head. Not enough gray matter.
Sally
@Repatriated: Ha – I love that song!
Warblewarble
All is kabuki, until there is an ocean of republican blood. Time to celebrate is when significant damage has been shared out among the whole cast of villians. Noise and shadow play fixes nothing.
Paul in KY
@Archon: The Alien is (I think) a genetically engineered bioweapon.
Paul in KY
@Repatriated: Oh, that is so droll. Kudos!
Paul in KY
@catclub: A crocodile that big has no natural enemies. Maybe an orca pack, but that’s it. Much heavier than a great white and armoured, etc. etc.
Ruckus
@cmorenc:
Actually the best thing to do then is to tell each of them how much they are being shit upon by the other. Their bromance is done, they both did that to themselves, and elon seems to have stepped upon a part of himself that does not take well to golf spikes being plunged into them. (shitforbrains doesn’t seem to have that body part or at least it seems to rather nonfunctional as he approaches 80 years old… and drives himself into senility, at speed)
I often wonder how it will turn out, considering how much they are doing for the republican party at this point, none of which seems to be positive, in any way, shape or form. I also wonder how many of shitforbrains disciples will follow him regardless. And how many will wonder how the hell they made such a dumbass decision. (I’m not holding my breath waiting to count them using my fingers – of one hand)
Now I have to hang around for at least a couple more decades just to see how it all works out.
Ruckus
@PaulWartenberg:
No, no, no, NO.
Not adjoining cells, one small cell. They should have to experience the joy of having their now seemingly worst enemy joining and sleeping in their worst concept of continuing to live. They both deserve it.