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Friday Night Open Thread

by John Cole|  June 13, 20257:27 pm| 73 Comments

This post is in: John Cole Presents "This Fucking Old House", Open Threads

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So, super big day tomorrow with the No King’s protests- there are even ones that I think are going to be quite big for the area in Wheeling and Steubenville. I will probably not be attending either for a multitude of reasons, first of which is I can feel a ball of anxiety in my chest just thinking around being around all those people and the only options being public restrooms dear god I need to stop thinking about this. Another big reason is because it is going to be raining, and I know a bunch of you are going to say “But Cole, don’t be such a wimp” to which I have to say fuck you I am not in the army anymore I don’t stand in the rain under any circumstance. That fucking bullshit is over. I will stand under the awning for twenty minutes at the grocery store with a cart of paid for groceries waiting for the rain to die down that inevitably started when I was shopping. If I go to a public event like a picnic or something and it starts raining I do not stand under the shelter miserable hoping for the best or making the best of it. I wave to everyone and walk directly to the car and drive home. The fun was had then the rain started and I peaced the fuck out.

If you are curious, my mother always used to tell people that I was nine going on seventy (the nine obviously changed).

Oh, and I have no burner phone atm (actually, if someone knows how to get one legally tell me in the comments).

***

In other news, this happened:

BREAKING: US Marines deployed to Los Angeles have carried out the first known detention of a civilian, the US military confirms.

It was confirmed to Reuters after they shared this image with the US military.

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— News Eye (@newseye.bsky.social) June 13, 2025 at 6:01 PM

Another sad milestone. The military also confirmed they are flying predator drones.

***

This, on the other hand, is a delicious response to ICE:

Ah yes, nothing says “tough guy” like hiding your face behind a mask while bullying unarmed people.

But this response gives me life…

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— Christopher Webb (@cwebbonline.com) June 13, 2025 at 1:09 AM

If you are not from appalachia or the south, you are probably unfamiliar with what you just witnessed, but you just got a glimpse of what we call papaw vibes (or depending on your region, “peepaw”). He done said his piece and he’s not gonna put up with your shit and you know it so best go get backup or go on about your business elsewhere otherwise shit is gonna escalate and make the gossip at bingo something.

***

I’m watching Solo right now, and I have no idea why Donald Glover is not like Denzel level famous. He’s just so good looking and charming and smooth. He just has that thing. Some of these people just have a sparkle in their eyes and just instant “rizz” as the kids say, or were a couple of years ago. Ryan Gosling has it. AOC has it. I can’t describe it other than as a spark and you guys know what I am talking about I just can’t explain it.

At any rate, behave. Maybe I will feel ornery and go tomorrow.

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  1. 1.

    Baud

    June 13, 2025 at 7:29 pm

    Reposted from below

     

    update on military detention

    turns out he was in a taped off area he wasn’t supposed to be, they briefly detained him and he was quickly released, a pretty simple mistake. it *is* why you don’t deploy the military to do this, but *is not* the entrance to the cool zone.

    [image or embed]
    — GOLIKEHELLMACHINE (@golikehellmachine.com) Jun 13, 2025 at 7:24 PM

    according to another Blue sky post, the guy said no hard feelings.

     

  2. 2.

    WTFGhost

    June 13, 2025 at 7:31 pm

    Having just finished all six seasons of Lost, I found this, and I think it’s a good link to share on a day like today:

    https://natethesnake.com/

  3. 3.

    WTFGhost

    June 13, 2025 at 7:38 pm

    @Baud: Well, that at least, is something I don’t expect the military to make mistakes with – I know they have protocols for trespass.

    That said, I remember a legend of a cop, supported by military, who said “cover me,” as he prepared to approach the house, and they opened fire, since that’s what “cover me” means in a combat situation – “keep their heads down while I maneuver.”

    I find it hard to believe they didn’t instead ruin the raid by screaming “WTF do you need covering fire for?” which is why I call this a legend. But I don’t think it’s impossible, especially if some moron thought “let’s include guys just back from combat!” for whom the mistake would be easier to make.

  4. 4.

    WTFGhost

    June 13, 2025 at 7:43 pm

    Oh, and I have no burner phone atm (actually, if someone knows how to get one legally tell me in the comments).

    It’s just a pre-paid phone, bought with cash, and a single activation/money card, also purchased with cash. Ideally, from a location that you never shop at, and have no reason to be near.

    Then sign up with a brand new e-mail address. You can manually enter contacts, and such, and install apps, etc., so your use of the phone is all but untraceable.

    This allows you to record a police encounter, for example, and if the cop seizes your phone, it’s just your burner – no evidence worth collecting.

  5. 5.

    JoyceH

    June 13, 2025 at 7:47 pm

    @WTFGhost: reminds me of an old military joke about the difficulty of communicating between services.

    Tell the Army “secure the building”, they’ll surround it with razor wire and post a guard. Tell the Marines “secure the building”, they’ll charge in guns blazing and shoot everything that moves. Tell the Navy “secure the building “, they’ll turn out the lights and lock the door. Tell the Air Force “secure the building”, they’ll take out a lease with option to buy.

  6. 6.

    Scout211

    June 13, 2025 at 7:47 pm

    @JohnCole: Oh, and I have no burner phone atm (actually, if someone knows how to get one legally tell me in the comments).

    Here’s a good article on burner phones from C-Net:

    Get a Burner Phone for Travel and Keep Border Agents Away from Your Private Info

    Lots of good information and instructions.

  7. 7.

    UncleEbeneezer

    June 13, 2025 at 7:48 pm

    I will not be attending any protests tomorrow because I’ll be showing my family around Taos and playing two gigs (four sets) of music.

  8. 8.

    JoyceH

    June 13, 2025 at 7:50 pm

    Btw, My Fitness Journey – yesterday I was at the Y fitness center, just stepping up onto the treadmill, fell off the back of it and sprained my right ankle and left wrist.

  9. 9.

    Cheryl from Maryland

    June 13, 2025 at 7:51 pm

    I understand re the crowds and the rain and the rest.  As I tell my friends who want to support the movement but can’t go, many of the No Kings Protests can be supported by funds – mine at No Kings on the Pike in Rockville, MD, is using such funds to supply all of us with USA flags to wave.  Do what one can.  We love you.

  10. 10.

    broken/braininjured

    June 13, 2025 at 7:51 pm

    You won’t stand in the rain, yeah.

    Like my “nym” says, I’ve been broken up a bit and I have a brain injury. I have some issues with balance and walking, I lean on a cane, and things are always a bit off in my head BUT I’M FUCKING GOING TO THE PROTEST BECAUSE I’M TOUGH AND THIS IS FUCKING SERIOUS (and yeah they’re calling for rain here… ooh “water”).

    I’ve begun reading regularly and I’ll give money because other writers make the site worth it, but you, John Cole, now we find that when the shit is most serious, you seem to be mostly a not particularly interesting mouth.

  11. 11.

    Percysowner

    June 13, 2025 at 7:53 pm

     

    I’m going to do my best to make it to the local protest tomorrow. A massive migraine yesterday led to a big migraine hangover today, so I didn’t get any supplies for the protest. I may try to get to a store to make a sign, but I will just leave my phone at home if I go. Someone else at the march can take pictures. The big march in downtown Columbus happened today, because there was a scheduled Pride Parade for the 14th. My understanding is the march was well attended. I’ll see how this one, in Clintonville, goes.

  12. 12.

    MagdaInBlack

    June 13, 2025 at 7:55 pm

    @WTFGhost: Booooooo-hiss ;-)  I read the whole damn thing…

  13. 13.

    brendancalling

    June 13, 2025 at 7:59 pm

    @WTFGhost: oh boy. That’s a great one.

  14. 14.

    MobiusKlein

    June 13, 2025 at 8:00 pm

    My suggestion for folks not wanting to go to a Big Protest (TM)

    Put out a chair in your front porch/sidewalk/whatever, bring out your signs, and be visible to your neighbors.  We often get the most engagement while walking to Bart for the protest, chatting with the folks on the street who are not part of the Choir.

    And you don’t need to ruin your knees – have yourself a one block rally, it still counts.

  15. 15.

    eclare

    June 13, 2025 at 8:03 pm

    After my dad left the army, he said he was never hiking again.

  16. 16.

    bbleh

    June 13, 2025 at 8:07 pm

    @Baud: ok fine, but is this not a “police” action? Not a military reservation. “Taped off” so presumably forbidden by some law or ordinance, but isn’t that a police duty?

  17. 17.

    eclare

    June 13, 2025 at 8:07 pm

    @JoyceH:

    Oh no!  Why is the treadmill throwing you off?

  18. 18.

    Geminid

    June 13, 2025 at 8:09 pm

    @UncleEbeneezer: I hope those gigs go well, and your family has a good visit to Taos.

  19. 19.

    Soapdish

    June 13, 2025 at 8:11 pm

    @WTFGhost: Having just finished all six seasons of Lost,

    I will never not be angry at how that show ended.  Never.

  20. 20.

    Annie

    June 13, 2025 at 8:11 pm

    I will be attending the march and protest in San Francisco.  Big crowds scare me but I think we’re past the point where my feelings about crowds matter.

  21. 21.

    eclare

    June 13, 2025 at 8:11 pm

    @Cheryl from Maryland:

    I bought cookies today to take to the protest tomorrow.  I’m just not in the right state, mentally or physically, to stand for hours, so I’ll drop them off and go.

  22. 22.

    Baud

    June 13, 2025 at 8:13 pm

    @bbleh:

    They shouldn’t be there, no question. But being there, they’re going to handle their own security. it doesn’t sound like they are taking on general law enforcement duties.

  23. 23.

    bbleh

    June 13, 2025 at 8:13 pm

    @Annie: marshaling in Philly, have attended many. In my experience, it’s totally mellow, heavily skewed to older folks, plenty of room on the margins to hang out without heavy crowds. Go and be counted! It matters!

  24. 24.

    Scamp Dog

    June 13, 2025 at 8:14 pm

    @broken/braininjured: John gives us a place where we can connect, discuss and plan. I think he’s doing his part.

  25. 25.

    bbleh

    June 13, 2025 at 8:16 pm

    @Baud: concur but I’m worried about nibbling at the legal edges. And the MAGAts are absolutely itching to use armed force domestically, very much including uniformed forces, not least because of the cachet.

    They shouldn’t be there AT ALL. Nor doing ANYTHJNG.

  26. 26.

    Leto

    June 13, 2025 at 8:18 pm

    John if you like Donald Glover you should check out his show Atlanta. It’s on Hulu and it was very very good.

  27. 27.

    HinTN

    June 13, 2025 at 8:18 pm

    Reminder: WaterGirl posts a daily picture. Today’s Northern Lights is really wonderful. TY, WG.

  28. 28.

    columbusqueen

    June 13, 2025 at 8:20 pm

    And I’m down with food poisoning tonight. So much for tomorrow.  Damn!

  29. 29.

    Suzanne

    June 13, 2025 at 8:20 pm

    I am planning on attending with Mr. Suzanne. SuzMom desperately wanted to attend, but concluded that her mobility limitations make that unwise. I may take Spawn the Younger. Not taking Youngest. I used to take her elder siblings to protests when they were that age, but I think violence is too likely. It is also likely to rain and schlepping kids in the rain is terrible.

  30. 30.

    Suzanne

    June 13, 2025 at 8:21 pm

    @columbusqueen: Oh man! Take care of yourself! We got it.

  31. 31.

    John Cole

    June 13, 2025 at 8:22 pm

    @broken/braininjured: Lighten up, Francis

  32. 32.

    Annie

    June 13, 2025 at 8:22 pm

    @bbleh:

    oh, I’m going.  I don’t want to look back 5 years from now and realize I didn’t do enough.

    And the San Francisco protests have been calm   — I went to a lot of them during Trump’s first term, and several already this year.  I did not see any violence and the cops, though present, stood on the sidelines.  Especially around the Civic Center, protests are routine, so the cops are usually mellow.  And as you mention, an awful lot of the people are older (like me).  I figure, the more normies show up, the less chance of any incidents.

  33. 33.

    Suzanne

    June 13, 2025 at 8:22 pm

    @JoyceH: There’s a reason we call them “dreadmill” or “the Devil’s sidewalk”. Hope you’re not in too much pain!

  34. 34.

    BarcaChicago

    June 13, 2025 at 8:23 pm

    I’m volunteering with the Chicago indivisible chapter to be a large sign holder at the protest tomorrow. Going with a friend who’s also a therapist like myself. Don’t piss off the social workers…

  35. 35.

    comrade scotts agenda of rage

    June 13, 2025 at 8:25 pm

    Main question tomorrow in downtown Denver will be if the crowd size exceeds that of the AOC/Sanders rally earlier in the year, 35K.

    Should be fun and very safe based on the crowd demographic and behavior of all the previous rallies this year.

  36. 36.

    bbleh

    June 13, 2025 at 8:28 pm

    @Annie: yay, good on ya!  Very important to show up and be SEEN by the cameras. The difference between the 8-block tank parade and hundreds of marches with literally MILLIONS of just-regular-folks will be inescapable.

  37. 37.

    Gloria DryGarden

    June 13, 2025 at 8:32 pm

    @broken/braininjured: as a camping and backpacking type of person, I own waterproof gear, that makes rain a pretty tolerable experience. I don’t have bad memories of being in rain. Mostly not.
    but some people do.
    For all who do end up in rain tomorrow, you can be gleeful knowing that man and his parade are in the rain, too.

    I’m  thinking some nice gusts of wind might blow away any umbrellas they try to protect him with. And that some one near him in the stands is carrying contagious viral things, and coughs near him. Pls forgive my fantasy life.

    If I felt safe, I’d like a sign in my front yard to say Make América Sane Again. MASA. Safe as well. Apologies to people from other countries in the americas. It’s our shorthand; we know better.

  38. 38.

    Gloria DryGarden

    June 13, 2025 at 8:33 pm

    @comrade scotts agenda of rage: I hope we come close.

  39. 39.

    schrodingers_cat

    June 13, 2025 at 8:34 pm

    If you don’t like the rain, don’t ever go to India during the monsoon.

  40. 40.

    Interesting Name Goes Here

    June 13, 2025 at 8:36 pm

    @broken/braininjured: …I don’t know when it became a leftist tactic to try and shame other people into actions for reasons of proving toughness/manhood/street cred/wish fulfillment…

    …but Jesus H. Christ does it need to stop.

  41. 41.

    Gloria DryGarden

    June 13, 2025 at 8:37 pm

    @HinTN: it’s a wonderful photo of the northern lights. Where was it taken from?

  42. 42.

    John Cole

    June 13, 2025 at 8:39 pm

    @schrodingers_cat: I don’t mind the rain if I am not in it.

  43. 43.

    eclare

    June 13, 2025 at 8:42 pm

    @HinTN:

    Oh wow!  Thanks for the heads up!  And thank you WaterGirl.

  44. 44.

    Cheryl from Maryland

    June 13, 2025 at 8:43 pm

    @eclare: so right!  A community does what one can!

  45. 45.

    BethanyAnne

    June 13, 2025 at 8:47 pm

    oh, man. The Onion doesn’t miss: https://theonion.com/democrats-back-resolution-thanking-federal-agents-for-handcuffing-alex-padilla/

  46. 46.

    Jay

    June 13, 2025 at 8:49 pm

    ‪the Mountain Goats‬
    ‪@themountaingoats.bsky.social‬
    · 6h
    this is so amazing

    ‪LorennaCleary.bsky.social‬
    ‪@lorennacleary.bsky.social‬
    · 6h
    New Yorkers scream out each officer’s lawsuits against them for excessive force and more upon their city, right to their faces while protesting.

    0:00

    0:45 / 0:45

    20

    426

  47. 47.

    Ohio Mom

    June 13, 2025 at 9:00 pm

    Ohio Dad and I will be going tomorrow but I am not expecting a big crowd because there are a number of other protests nearby — one in Northetn Kentucky (across the river from downtown Cincinnati), one was in a far east suburb today, a few little cities nearby are also having matches tomorrow.

    I get the idea of making locations convenient to get more participants but I think one big crowd is more inspiring. Makes for better price too.

    Still, I am expecting the total numbers from across the country (is anyone going to count?) will easily top whatever meager crowds come out for Trump’s parade.

  48. 48.

    zhena gogolia

    June 13, 2025 at 9:01 pm

    @Scamp Dog: Right.

  49. 49.

    zhena gogolia

    June 13, 2025 at 9:03 pm

    @BethanyAnne: Not going to click on anything criticizing Democrats at this moment in history.

  50. 50.

    Matt McIrvin

    June 13, 2025 at 9:03 pm

    @Interesting Name Goes Here: sometime around 1789, I think.

  51. 51.

    Gloria DryGarden

    June 13, 2025 at 9:06 pm

    @Scamp Dog: He’s doing a huge amount. Way more than his part. It’s great.

  52. 52.

    Jackie

    June 13, 2025 at 9:07 pm

    @HinTN:

    WaterGirl posts a daily picture. Today’s Northern Lights is really wonderful.

    Stunningly beautiful and surreal.

  53. 53.

    Dan B

    June 13, 2025 at 9:18 pm

    @Jackie: I believe Matthews lives in Iceland.

  54. 54.

    zhena gogolia

    June 13, 2025 at 9:18 pm

    @Matt McIrvin: I was going to say 1917, but you’re probably right.

  55. 55.

    dnfree

    June 13, 2025 at 9:22 pm

    @BarcaChicago: ​
      Being married to one, I can confirm that social workers are pissed off. So much of this stuff is exactly in their wheelhouse.

  56. 56.

    Steve LaBonne

    June 13, 2025 at 9:23 pm

    The bag of fucks guy is my new hero.

  57. 57.

    Steve LaBonne

    June 13, 2025 at 9:42 pm

    @Ohio Mom: We have gone to several protests in our reddish-purple town of 26,000 and will go to more in the future. I think it’s important for there to be visible protests everywhere including a bit off the beaten track.

  58. 58.

    LeftCoastYankee

    June 13, 2025 at 9:43 pm

    @John Cole:

    “I can’t stand in the rain for an hour with the other old whites in West Virginia to protest the police state, because I don’t have burner phone… “

    Yeah, ok.

    There’s nothing I want to do less than mill about in a crowd in the rain tomorrow.   It is a lesser discomfort than fascism. 

  59. 59.

    Suzanne

    June 13, 2025 at 9:47 pm

    I made my sign. I am debating attaching it to a pool noodle or just holding it.

  60. 60.

    Jay

    June 13, 2025 at 10:03 pm

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_r2goS4070

    CBC, The Nature of Things, Nature is Queer as F**k.

    Full episode.

  61. 61.

    John Cole

    June 13, 2025 at 10:05 pm

    @LeftCoastYankee: I know pretty weak excuses. I will probably end up going.

  62. 62.

    Professor Bigfoot

    June 13, 2025 at 10:08 pm

    @JoyceH: I was trying to remember this one earlier, thank you!

    I only remembered the Marines and the Air Force parts, but the whole thing is delicious.

    “WE DON’T SPEAK THE SAME DAMN LANGUAGE!”

  63. 63.

    NaijaGal

    June 13, 2025 at 10:52 pm

    Detained man is a veteran who was heading to a VA appointment. Held for two hours, likely missed the appointment. Has no hard feelings.

    Leao, a former Army combat engineer, said he was rushing to get to a Veterans Affairs appointment when he stepped past a piece of caution tape outside the federal building. He looked up to find a Marine sprinting toward him.

    “I had my headphones in, so I didn’t hear them,” Leao said. “They told me to get down on the ground. I basically complied with everything they were saying.”

  64. 64.

    Gretchen

    June 13, 2025 at 11:04 pm

    The « everyone else is doing it wrong folks are out tonight ». Fighting among ourselves isn’t a particularly winning tactic.

  65. 65.

    kindness

    June 13, 2025 at 11:07 pm

    I’ve thought about getting a burner phone.  I will before the next time I go through US Customs.  I usually take a laptop when I travel.  Burner laptops is a much more pricey thing.

  66. 66.

    Aziz, light!

    June 13, 2025 at 11:09 pm

    @broken/braininjured: And such small servings.

  67. 67.

    Sally

    June 13, 2025 at 11:10 pm

    @NaijaGal: Thank goodness it wasn’t police or ice(cream). He’d be injured or dead, as a black guy complying.

  68. 68.

    Soprano2

    June 13, 2025 at 11:23 pm

    @Soapdish: I can’t believe WTF Ghost watched them like that. I could only watch 2 or 3 episodes in a row because they were so intense. I wasn’t happy with the ending, either. I doubt many people were. I read an article about what the creators were trying to do, and I still don’t understand it.  What were those damn numbers about?!!!

  69. 69.

    Akita

    June 13, 2025 at 11:58 pm

    “I can’t describe it other than as a spark and you guys know what I am talking about I just can’t explain it.”

    “Let me see if I can help you, John.  It’s kind of like pornography, you know it when you see it!”

  70. 70.

    Jackie

    June 14, 2025 at 12:21 am

    Social media was ablaze yesterday and today with videos of ICE agents grabbing farm workers as they did their jobs in the fields and arriving at hotels and other places of employment to arrest undocumented workers.

    Trump must have been bombarded with calls from farmers and business owners, outraged that their long-time workers were seized. Who will pick the fruits and vegetables? Who will clean the hotel rooms? Who will staff the kitchen and bus tables?

    These were his supporters. They wanted the illegals deported, but not their workers. How would they function without their staff and their laborers?

    Trump heard them. Late Friday he issued an order to ICE to avoid farms, restaurants, hotels, and meat packing facilities.

    Maybe it suddenly occurred to him that removing the workforce from so many basic industries would be bad for the economy. Maybe Stephen Miller was out of town and turned off his cell phone.

    The New York Times reported on his sudden change of plans:

    The Trump administration has abruptly shifted the focus of its mass deportation campaign, telling Immigration and Customs Enforcement officials to largely pause raids and arrests in the agricultural industry, hotels and restaurants, according to an internal email and three U.S. officials with knowledge of the guidance.

    Click the link above for more.

    Let’s see what FFOTUS says tomorrow – once Miller catches his ear.

  71. 71.

    Darkrose

    June 14, 2025 at 12:24 am

    I’m not going to the protest tomorrow. Black Graduation is in the evening and I already had that scheduled. If I had spoons for more than one thing it would be our Sac Pride mini-set, but I’ll be skipping that as well.

    And FWIW Cole, you don’t owe anyone an explanation for why you may not go to a rally tomorrow, but folks seen to be missing the first thing is this:

    first of which is I can feel a ball of anxiety in my chest just thinking around being around all those people

    Not all of us can do crowds. I’ll be staffing the booth at Pride on Sunday and I’m frankly a little nervous. It’s Sacramento so it should be pretty chill, but the last time I tried to go to a city Pride was Boston in 2003. I say “tried” because when I saw how many people were there I had a panic attack. Once I could breathe I turned around and went home. People do what they can; don’t judge them for it.

  72. 72.

    EireIAm

    June 14, 2025 at 3:24 am

    @Ohio Mom: more locations make it harder for the authorities to manage. Quote I heard is “we can handle one 10,000 person protest. We can’t handle 10 1,000 person protests.” More locations better as the cops won’t be able to incite violence as effectively.

  73. 73.

    lowtechcyclist

    June 14, 2025 at 6:26 am

    @BethanyAnne:

    oh, man. The Onion doesn’t miss: https://theonion.com/democrats-back-resolution-thanking-federal-agents-for-handcuffing-alex-padilla/

    Maybe the piece itself is funny, but usually all the humor of an Onion piece is right there in the headline.  So I’m guessing not. And not bothering clicking through to find out.

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